[01:44] f [01:44] f === L3top_ is now known as L3top === mike is now known as Guest54372 === king is now known as Guest37211 [02:25] hello [02:28] hi === Eruaran is now known as Fugg [03:59] i have installed xubuntu and i would like to try the KDE version and i just gave sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Is that enough or is there something else that needs to be done ? [04:02] any one here? [04:02] G__81, log out once it is installed then login choosing the kde desktop [04:03] bazhang, ok thanks but as far as the packages are concerned just installing kubuntu-desktop would bring everything right ? [04:04] G__81, yes, a large number of packages; it's a meta-package [04:04] !meta-package [04:04] A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions. [04:04] oh ok thanks a lot. I hope i am satisfied with Ubuntu's KDE. I had problems with Fedora's 16 KDE [04:43] i am thoroughly impressed with Kubuntu 11.10 installed it on top of xubuntu and i should say this is the best KDE distro i have ever used [04:43] its just truly awesome [04:44] hi all, im new to kubuntu and linux as a whole, hoping for a little guidance... [04:44] one small thing i would like to know is that when my system boots up, it still says Xubuntu. How do i change it [04:45] G__81: I think uninstalling plymouth-theme-xubuntu-* and making sure plymouth-theme-kubuntu-* are installed should do it [04:46] does anyone know how kubuntu performs on a netbook? looking for a good distro to put on a dell mini 1010 [04:47] shoopdewoop: it's tolerable on my netbook (samsung nc10), but a bit laggy in places [04:48] is there a distro that isnt too laggy? [04:48] shoopdewoop: I use lubuntu mostly [04:49] i tried lubuntu once, but i couldnt get it running on my dell. dont remember why. perhaps i ought to try again [04:53] worked beautifully on my desktop though; might be worth giving another shot on the netbook [04:58] Hey guys I was afk, Hi room [04:59] here goes, installing 11.10 onto usb key, then we'll see if it likes my netbook... [05:00] fun fact: this is my first time on IRC :P [05:01] good luck shoop! [05:02] Hope your lovingi the IRC, oldie but goodie [05:03] thanks! and yes, nice and simple, just the way i like it [05:04] usb key's done, off i go! [05:17] booted the 11.10 usb key, all i got was a terminal prompt. lovely. [05:17] Hola [05:18] aloha [05:18] Como hago para montar particiones ntfs en kubuntu 11.10 ya que la herramienta de conf. ntfs (ntfs.config) ya no funciona en esta distro? [05:21] anyone know why my 11.10 usb key is booting to a terminal prompt on my netbook (dell mini 1010)? this happened to me once before with lubuntu 11.10 [05:24] Como hago para montar particiones ntfs en kubuntu 11.10 ya que la herramienta de conf. ntfs (ntfs.config) ya no funciona en esta distro? [05:30] lucho: english? [05:30] ok, [05:31] lucho: do you want to mount your ntfs drivers automatically on startup everytime? [05:31] how to mount automatically, my ntfs partitions on kubuntu 11.10 [05:31] yes [05:31] lucho: goto system settings [05:32] lucho: then goto removable drives [05:32] LOL thanks a lot bro [05:32] ow emmm :$ how to unlok dkpg [05:33] lucho: so you know what to do next? [05:33] yes :) but how to unlock my dpkg :( ? [05:33] lucho: end any process named apt [05:33] lucho: something like aptworker [05:33] lucho: also end any process like dpkg [05:34] ok please wait [05:34] lucho: ok [05:34] task manager on kubuntu? [05:34] lucho: ya [05:35] lucho: ctrl+esc [05:36] nyone know why my 11.10 usb key is booting to a terminal prompt on my netbook (dell mini 1010)? this happened to me once before with lubuntu 11.10 [05:37] Thx a lot bro, now installing Guitar pro 6 I'm Musician :D [05:38] lucho: nice, enjoy :) [05:38] shoopdewoop: do you get any error messages? [05:39] i got one at the splash screen, but it went by too fast to catch what it said. then black screen and a terminal prompt [05:40] shoopdewoop: do you get the boot menu? [05:40] shoopdewoop: the one with boot options? [05:41] yes, i selected live from the boot menu and it started to boot up, then when it got to the blue kubuntu splash screen, it loaded for awhile, flashed an error, and brought me to the prompt [05:43] shoopdewoop: can you select the nolapic option in the boot menu and then try booting? [05:43] i dont remember having that option in the menu [05:44] shoopdewoop: it should me [05:47] shoopdewoop: In the following picture you can see the menu called "other options" from there select the nolapic http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Boot-Menu.png [05:47] ahh alright thanks, ill try that [05:49] shoopdewoop: ok [05:50] :( how to execute guitar pro 6 for linux :( im using a 64bit os, (kubutu) and install kibraries etc... but, i try open gp6, no open :( === hplpb2 is now known as hplpb [05:53] hi. got new SSD. what is best linux tool to use to create partition table for it...slice it etc [05:53] lucho:from where did you get the gp6? [05:53] official page === phantom is now known as Guest75199 [05:56] Sup guys, I have a quick question - I am using Kubuntu 9.1, and everytime I do 'sudo apt-get update' it seems to fail at some urls and whatnot, with 404 errors. Anyone know how I can change my sources to properly update? I believe this is what is keeping me from upgrading to Lucid. [05:59] http://pastebin.com/CQ6U8M18 This is the pastebin to error [06:00] !eolupgrades | Guest75199 [06:00] Guest75199: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [06:00] !9.10 [06:00] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://ubottu.com/y/karmic for details. [06:01] So, does that mean I cannot update/upgrade? [06:01] The upgrade fails, I'm not certain why. [06:01] Guest75199, did you check the link? [06:01] how to uninstall app on kubuntu 11.10 [06:05] lucho: hi [06:05] Hi phoenix :D [06:05] lucho: you have the downloaded gp6 deb file? [06:06] Distribution upgrade was canceled with error 127 [06:06] official page, but is nesesary uninstall it, moun fails :( [06:06] muon [06:07] lucho: did you install it already? [06:07] and konsole show error by gp6 [06:07] yes ! [06:07] lucho: what is the error? [06:08] Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas: [06:08] guitarpro6:i386 : Depende de: libc6:i386 (>= 2.1.3) pero no va a instalarse [06:08] Depende de: libstdc++6:i386 pero no va a instalarse [06:08] Depende de: libasound2:i386 pero no va a instalarse [06:08] Depende de: libxml2:i386 pero no va a instalarse [06:08] Depende de: libxslt1.1:i386 pero no va a instalarse [06:08] lucho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:08] lucho: use pastebin [06:09] lucho: use paste.kde.org [06:27] dependecy error :( [06:27] conflict [06:30] kubuntu-es [06:30] #kubuntu-es [07:00] Kubuntu 12.04, new install, nVidia driver installs but refuses to run, nouveau is used instead, graphics card is 8600gt. [07:01] Restarting X brb. [07:17] xorg.conf looks right. [07:42] Sitll doesn't work. [07:43] This is the most hassle I have had with nvidia drivers. === jad is now known as Guest52384 [07:46] what do you expect? 12.04 isn't released yet, so proprietary software might not be adjusted yet [07:47] other than that, the right channel for that is #ubuntu+1 [07:52] Ah +1 gotchya === larsivi_ is now known as larsivi [08:04] hi all [08:05] what is kdewallet? [08:05] It's an encrypted password storage service [08:06] Avihay dude, why i should type password to kdewallet every time i log into my system:( i hate that。。。 [08:14] jameslord: you can bypass the password in kwallet by changing the password to blank [08:15] as in no password [08:15] almoxarife dude, why there is password for kdewallet? [08:15] security [08:15] what else [08:24] if iy's at startup, then it's probably your network manager or something trying to get a password from the wallet. web browsers (rekonq/chromium) also try to get in my wallet (though I don't use themwith it) [09:32] I have kubuntu usb installer. but it does not see my SSD drive..already formatted to ext4 and all [09:33] installer only sees my old hdd ....at the same time partition manager that comes with the installer sees the drive...all seems fine [09:34] where might be the problem? I wan to tinstall fresh kubuntu on the ssd but it won't let me use it [09:38] ciao [09:38] link! === magical_trevsky is now known as magical_ [12:05] 'Morning all [12:58] Morning BluesKaj [13:00] jameslord, kdewallet is a place to keep all your passwords behind one password. So instead of remembering dozens or hundreds of passwords you only need to remember one [13:01] jameslord, If you make that one password a blank password then you don't even need to remember that :) of course then anyone who uses your computer can easily get into everything [13:02] You can tell kdewallet to always remember for some instances and then it won't ask for the password at all for those applications [13:02] I presume that you have a password for something in your plasma desktop if it's asking at startup [13:03] Hey Daskreech [13:07] Hi ho BluesKaj [13:18] is anyone familiar with the phenomenon where plasma freezes in short intervals? [13:27] maybe? [13:32] hi [13:45] Daskreech: it just freezes at random times, i really dont know what the source of the problem is [13:46] one second freezes or extended freeze ups? [13:46] 10-20 seconds or so [13:49] also seems like nothing goes through dbus when it hangs [13:49] i guess thats a consequence of plasma being freezed, not the other way around [13:51] i'm using the latest kde from the ppa btw, but this problem existed in 4.6 as well [13:54] navlelo, nothing goes through dbus? [13:54] you can't send a dbus command to none plasma processes? [13:54] havent tried that [13:55] i used dbus-monitor [13:55] and when its hanging, nothing goes through [13:55] after the hanging stops, a bunch of backed up commands goes through === david is now known as Guest21482 [14:01] heeey [14:04] hi [14:05] navlelo, can you pastebin that backup flood? [14:05] yep [14:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/868255/ [14:10] actually, there is not a complete halt with the dbus commands [14:11] when i run dbus-monitor --session when its hanging i do get something [14:11] ill paste it [14:11] you have a lot of kwin dbus calls in there :-/ [14:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/868262/ [14:12] that contains some of the backed up commands as well [14:12] so that is bad? [14:13] well that's not Plasma at all [14:13] so it may be that dbus is pausing and that pauses plasma [14:14] hmmm [14:14] I presume that when plasma freezes you can still move around windows etc ? [14:14] yeah, everything works fine [14:14] but plasma doesn't respond? [14:14] nope [14:15] ppose [14:15] hrrm [14:15] and every command i perform, like pressing a program in the task bar, does not happen until the freeze is over [14:16] i reckon thats some of the backed up dbus commands [14:18] I would guess ask in #plasma if there is a way you can track down the reasons for the freezes === duzce-egitimsen is now known as cemil [14:20] all right, thank you for your help :) [14:43] hi [14:43] is there anyone?? [14:45] niit: yes [14:56] hii [15:01] hi [15:02] * BluesKaj thinks the mobo on theother linuxbox is cooked ...frozen at the options page , did all remove battery and clear cmos "fixes" , but can't past the Compaq options page , even the bios won't load === ubuntu_ is now known as pinkubuntu [15:04] how did you clear CMOs? [15:04] jumpers? [15:05] in KDE is it possible to have two bars (top and bottom of the screen) like in gnome ? [15:06] tonyyy, yes [15:06] add a panel then setup as you like [15:07] it's also possible to have no panels === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:09] Daskreech, excellent, thank you :) [15:10] Daskreech, yes i cleared the cmos by removing the jumper and pressing the power button as described in various fixes [15:10] Daskreech, any other methods that come to mind ? [15:14] I tried the removal of all peripharals such as usb devices, etherent etc. Then removed the battery , and held the power button for a few secs. === marten_ is now known as swecarp === artao is now known as artao_muzzy [16:14] anyone put 11.10 on a netbook? trying to boot it live on mine (dell mini 1010) but i keep getting an error at the splash screen (too fast to read) and then it brings me to a terminal prompt [16:17] shoopdewoop: You can see if there's anything relevant in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.log.0. Also, try running the command 'dmesg | less'. [16:18] where are those directories? ive never really used linux before :P [16:19] I'm not sure what you mean by that. I gave you the paths. [16:20] The path is /var/log and the files are messages and Xorg.log.0 in that directory. [16:20] is that assuming im running linux already? im running windows right now, and trying to boot 11.10 off a usb key [16:21] Well, they don't exist if you're not running Linux, right? :-) [16:21] thats why i was confused :) [16:22] so now what... [16:23] Boot into Linux and read those files, see if anything looks relevant. Then come back here and ask. Use pastebin to post clips from the files that you want to show us. [16:23] !pastebin | shoopdewoop [16:23] shoopdewoop: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:24] i cant boot into linux, thats my problem [16:24] In /var/log/Xorg.log.0, look for lines starting with "EE", which indicates an error. [16:25] I thought you said you were booted into a terminal? All that I told you can be run in the terminal. [16:25] ahhhhh okay [16:26] To read the messages and Xorg.log.0 files, use the "less" utility. At the terminal, type: cd /var/log [16:26] Then "less messages" and "less Xorg.log.0". And "dmesg | less". [16:27] In less, use "q" to quit. [16:27] okay thank you! [16:27] off i go! [16:28] crap :) [16:28] Well, thank you for that. Now clean up your mess, Daskreech. [16:29] :-) [16:29] DarthFrog, Should have gotten him (assuming him) to login here from the terminal [16:29] Course there is no way for us to know if networking is up [16:29] He'll be back. [16:30] He probably has a problem with X. [16:31] it could have been an initramfs terminal which is I think much more likely [16:31] Could be. He's booting from a USB key. I'd next get him to try with a proper CD. [16:33] On the other hand, if it's a problem with live media, there's not much we can do, anyway. [16:33] err, booting from live media. that is. [16:33] well there is the usual have you checked the checksum etc [16:34] yeah , I think my other pc's mobo is kaput ...tried everything to get past the options page at boot [16:34] Right. Have him run the "Check this disk for errors" at the GRUB screen. [16:40] This is one of the larger barriers to Linux use [16:40] BluesKaj, Compaq is quite an old brand. [16:40] that, and the fact that the kid next door isn't available for Linux support generally. [16:42] yeah , Daskreech , I bought that pc on sale in jan 2006..was impressed by the 64bit arch [16:42] elvenfighter, I loved you in Wesnoth! [16:42] hi shoopdewoop . Guess it didn't boot? [16:43] so: /var/log did not have 'messages' or 'Xorg.log.0' files. also, 'dmesg | less' produced a lot of stuff i couldnt decipher, but i didnt find anything with 'EE' [16:45] shoopdewoop, was the terminal one that asked you to login or did it just allow you to start typing command? [16:47] commands. i chose 'live' from the boot menu, and it started to boot, and after it got to the kubuntu splash screen (blue with loading dots) it loaded for awhile, flashed an error, then the screen went black and a terminal came up [16:48] the same thing happened awhile back when i tried a live boot of lubuntu 11.10 on the same machine [16:49] sounds like you have a terminal (ha ha it's Punny!) error [16:49] That's a emergency shell that you got into [16:49] lovely :P thoughts? [16:50] shoopdewoop, welllll I would say the easiest thing to do would be to boot linux and jump in here to get help but lets eliminate some other issues first [16:50] did you checksum the ISO? [16:51] excuse my noobishness, but i have no idea how to do that :P [16:52] !md5sum [16:52] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [16:53] okay thanks === steve___ is now known as Guest42190 [16:57] shoopdewoop: If you need help poke me [16:57] Shoot thought I had enter on that a long time ago [17:16] Anyone had issues while using Opera on 64-bit kubuntu ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:18] Daskreech hi [18:19] hi [18:45] how to enable and activate compiz ? [18:45] Daskreech everytime i open my kubuntu, i should first login kubuntu, then type password to kwallet, only after this, my wifi can automically connected to my router:( [18:46] !compiz [18:46] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [18:46] Daskreech what i want is that, i don't need to login kubuntu gui and not need to type password to kwallet , and my wifi is connect without manually operation, is that possible? [18:47] jameslord, tell Kwin to always remember your password for wifi and tell kdm to autologin [19:12] Anyone who implemented compiz? [19:17] Nobody [19:19] augustus, compiz isn't really necessary [19:19] BluesKaj: Why is that? I want cool effects [19:19] I wanna try it on Kubuntu [19:19] system settings>desktop effects [19:20] It doesn't work [19:20] Do I need to install some special video driver? [19:20] This is ATI card [19:23] augustus, Doesn't work means what? [19:24] Daskreech: I think I need to reconfig X server [19:24] Daskreech: Do you agree? [19:25] augustus, which ati card , lspci | grep VGA in the terminal [19:28] augustus, don't think so [19:28] shoopdewoop, Hello :) [19:29] Daskreech: Hold on [19:30] hello again :) still no luck im afraid :/ this time i was able to read some of the error message on the splash screen. it said something about a firmware driver being missing, and to visit http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware. i went to the link, and the page doesnt exist... [19:31] shoopdewoop, ok did you try the checksum on the ISO? [19:32] i havent been able to figure that out yet... [19:32] ok you are on windows I presume? [19:32] yes, xp [19:33] search for md5sum for windows [19:33] just a question, in KDE is there a software like Super-Copier on Windows ? [19:33] you should find a download for a md5sum.exe [19:34] a software a little bit more evolved than the usual copy manager [19:34] (i use gnome for the moment) === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine [19:37] okay i got the .exe === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ [19:37] shoopdewoop, this is probably going to require the command prompt === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine === artao_muzzy is now known as artao_schmartao [19:38] okie dokie [19:38] tonyyy, What would you like it to do? [19:39] shoopdewoop, The easiest way would be to copy the md5sum exe to C:\windows\system32 [19:39] okay got it [19:39] then youcan just cd to the ISO and type md5sum name-of-kubuntu.iso [19:40] ohh alright got it [19:41] shoopdewoop, you know how to check the checksum ? [19:41] DarkriftX, ability pause and resume copy, manage several copy in one windows === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ [19:41] Daskreech, ability pause and resume copy, manage several copy in one windows === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine [19:42] Daskreech: no i do not [19:44] shoopdewoop, ok When You run md5sum against a file it produces a long string [19:44] If anything as in anything at all changes in the file it will make a different string [19:44] so what you do is run md5sum on your ISO file then you look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS to see if it matches the string there [19:45] that makes sure that the ISO you got is not corrupted [19:45] Daskreech: okay I'll do that [19:45] tonyyy, You can pause and resume copies with the normal KDE copy dialog [19:47] Daskreech: does the md5sum usually take awhile to run? [19:48] shoopdewoop, Yep [19:51] Daskreech: is the checksum you sent me the same as Kubuntu? because it says Ubuntu [19:52] Ahhh [19:52] No? [19:52] http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ [19:53] Sorry :) [19:53] 1/2 asleep [19:54] Daskreech: thanks! they do match up [19:54] great :) [19:54] when you boot the USB there is an option to check it there as well [19:54] Lets go with that's correct and try to figure out your issue [19:55] This is a laptop you are working from I presume? [19:55] in libre office calc , i want to calculate diffrence between two time , what can i do? [19:55] mohsen, make the cells be formatted for time [19:56] Daskreech: yes it is a netbook (Dell mini 1010) [19:56] >_< [19:57] Daskreech: my thoughts exactly :P [19:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell_Mini_10_.28Inspiron_1010.29 [19:59] it's o0k Daskreech . now another question. i have speed of an object , and the distance between A & B . i want calculate the time (in time format ) recieving . what can i do? [20:00] mohsen, ask in #physics ? [20:00] Daskreech: Well that's just peachy :P [20:01] shoopdewoop, isn't it? And Dell is one of the manufacturers who have support lines for Ubuntu as well [20:01] Looks like it's a kinda difficult struggle to get it installed on that machine [20:03] Daskreech , does libre office have a channel? [20:03] #libreoffice [20:03] shoopdewoop, That's your only machine? [20:09] Daskreech: i have another but im looking to put linux on this one, not the other [20:10] shoopdewoop, ok want to try work on it then? It's a little challenge :) [20:10] On the downside you'll probably be disappointed when you install linux on other computers === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ [20:13] Daskreech: i have to go right now, but i should be back on around 3.45 EST. i would like to work on it, yes! im up for a little challenge :) yeah i understand it wont be as amazing as on another machine but im willing to give it a shot [20:14] ok :) [20:14] shoopdewoop, can You type sudo lspci and pastebin that [20:14] Curses!!! === vivek is now known as pvivek === artao_schmartao is now known as artao_loopy === richard is now known as Guest53240 [20:41] hello, how is everyone today? [20:41] looking for a little help if someone is willing to help [20:43] in windows 7 I used to use Dameon Lite for mounting and running a copy of Network + software. Any ideas how to do that in Kubutu? [20:44] *kubuntu [20:44] What specifically are you trying to do? i.e. what does that program do for you? [20:45] DarthFrog: I am using the software for learning, it's part of my University course. Daemon lite would mount the iso, and the software would be open [20:46] meduser, If you want to mount an ISO just make a directory and mount it [20:46] Sorry, I mean what are you eventually trying to get? What does the software in the ISO do? [20:46] Daskreech: It's going to be a Windows program. [20:47] DarthFrog: it is a simulation software that is used when learning network wireing, connections, etc. [20:47] DarthFrog, Ah well you help with that I'm off to work [20:47] Vbox [20:47] meduser: What is the name of ISO file? [20:47] DarthFrog: Testout.iso [20:49] meduser: Type these commands at a terminal session (i.e. Konsole): "sudo -i" "mkdir /mnt/disk" "mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro Testout.iso /mnt/disk" [20:49] Then type "exit". [20:51] Use the file manager (Dolphin) to browse to /mnt/disk and find your program. If the wine package is installed, clicking on the exe should (well, might) launch it. If you have your fingers crossed and click your heels. [20:52] If wine isn't installed, use the Muon Package Manager (in the System menu) and install it. [20:53] You could also just use AcetoneISO to mount the ISO image. [20:54] That should be available in Muon, too, I should think. [20:56] DarthFrog: ok, I have it mounted..checking things out.. [20:56] DarthFrog: installing wine through terminal === marco is now known as Guest33401 === Guest33401 is now known as marco__ [20:58] meduser: If the Windows program won't run under wine (WINE Is Not an Emulator), then install Virtualbox and install Windows in a virtual machine to run your program. [20:59] Ok, I already have Virtualbox and vmware installed, so that might just be quicker..lol === marco__ is now known as marco__babu [21:00] Daskreech: I'm back now :) [21:00] shoopdewoop: He's left for work. [21:00] ahh rats [21:01] DarthFrog: so there is no program in Linux that is like Damean Lite? [21:01] meduser: you don't need it you can mount iso images [21:03] meduser: Yes, acetoneiso. [21:04] DarthFrog: thanks, I'll try that too. Looking through the folders in the mounted image, there appears to be linux in the iso [21:04] meduser: Well then, perhaps you don't need to use wine. [21:05] DarthFrog: that would be cool...wine is almost finished installing, so I'll see soon enough [21:06] in terms of performance on a netbook, is kubuntu or lubuntu a better option? [21:07] Lubuntu uses less resources. [21:07] Kubuntu is more full-featured. [21:07] full-featured meaning what? [21:07] Also, check out Xubuntu. [21:08] !xubuntu [21:08] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [21:09] hmm alright ill check it out [21:10] BTW, you can have all the various desktops installed at the same time and switch between them at will (by logging out of one and logging back in another). [21:11] DarthFrog: no, just errors right left and down the middle..going to try acetone [21:11] And every desktop environment (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu) can run programs from the others. [21:11] meduser: You don't need Acetone if you've got the ISO mounted. === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [21:12] so basically, the only difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and lubuntu is the desktop environment? [21:13] Correct. [21:13] And they can all be installed at the same time. [21:14] sudo apt-get install -desktop [21:14] Pick one. :-) [21:14] okay. so what did you mean when you said that kubuntu was more full-featured? (sorry for all the questions, just eager to learn :P) [21:15] shoopdewoop: I've not fully explored the other environments but XfCE (Xubuntu) for instance is not as integrated or as many tools as KDE (Kubuntu). [21:15] I suggest you try them all out and see which one you like best. [21:16] okay; ill give them a try and see what happens! [21:16] thanks for the info [21:19] I need some advaice here.Im running kubuntu 12.04. Im useing 2 desktops, one is regular desktop and other search and launch.With 11.04 there was no panels shown on search and launch desktop. How can i hidem now [21:19] 12.04 suppor t is in #Ubuntu+1 [21:25] moin [21:31] is there a package to change gtk theme settings/fonts? === bline_walk is now known as qx[bline] === giovanni is now known as Guest73602 === david is now known as Guest83589 [22:40] hi! I installed KDE 4.8 from the backports PPA repo, and also gtk3-engines-oxygen. But the icons in pavucontrol for "lock channels" and "set as fallback" are not there, as in this nice screenshot from K 12.04 beta 1 http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/blog2/pavu.png What should I install/config to have those icons? [22:45] dwdz: precise [22:45] Riddell: yes [22:50] Riddell: ah, you mean I should install precise? It is to much beta, hehe. What did you in precise to have there icons? Because I would like to try to fix that in my oneiric install. [22:51] I'm afraid I don't know [22:52]