| s-fox | Hello | 15:00 |
|---|---|---|
| genupulas | s-fox: Hey | 15:11 |
| genupulas | s-fox: how are you man ? | 15:11 |
| s-fox | Hello genupulas, how are you? | 15:13 |
| genupulas | s-fox , i am good boss | 15:18 |
| genupulas | s-fox: where are you now ? Home or ? | 15:18 |
| s-fox | I am at home | 15:19 |
| s-fox | why? | 15:19 |
| genupulas | s-fox: nothing just like that | 15:20 |
| genupulas | s-fox: whats the GMT | 15:20 |
| s-fox | I will check | 15:21 |
| genupulas | s-fox: hmm i am trying to motivate my studnets to Ubuntu from 2 years up to now i got one person | 15:21 |
| genupulas | those guys are still afraid about a word callled Linux | 15:21 |
| s-fox | 15:21 Sunday (GMT) - Time in United Kingdom | 15:22 |
| genupulas | oh ok we are opposite then mine 21:00 | 15:23 |
| genupulas | 6 hours | 15:23 |
| genupulas | s-fox: main problem we are facing in this area is Intenet | 15:24 |
| genupulas | a better internet | 15:24 |
| genupulas | s-fox: you fell to busy i think , seeya later brother | 15:26 |
| * SuperEngineer hands s-fox a big bowl of deserved respect | 15:40 | |
| s-fox | Haha, thank you :) | 15:41 |
| iku-iku | hello, i've been trying to change the login screen, with both gksu gedit /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf and simple light dm manager but it just changed to black... thanks foir your help | 17:38 |
| iku-iku | AAnderson72, could you maybe help me? | 17:42 |
| iku-iku | plz... | 17:42 |
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| philipballew | !vpn | 20:56 |
| ubot2` | For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN | 20:56 |
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| c0ldfyre | Can someone give me some advice? First time Unbuntu user with mild scripting knowledge. Having trouble compiling src because of constant lib errors or other issues | 21:12 |
| c0ldfyre | Can someone give me some advice? First time Unbuntu user with mild scripting knowledge. Having trouble compiling src because of constant lib errors or other issues | 21:13 |
| philipballew | c0ldfyre, whats up! | 21:18 |
| philipballew | I can attempt to help or say where you can find help! | 21:18 |
| philipballew | first off, how do you like Ubuntu? | 21:19 |
| c0ldfyre | I love it so far | 21:19 |
| c0ldfyre | Just been having trouble getting src files to play nice | 21:19 |
| c0ldfyre | I can post my prints if need be. These guys are coming up angry on everything I do..lol | 21:20 |
| * nlsthzn-work hugs his deb files... | 21:22 | |
| c0ldfyre | I tried hugging my src files, but alas.... Nothing..... | 21:22 |
| c0ldfyre | Can anyone tell me why I get this error when I try to compile "Sourceinstaller"? | 21:24 |
| c0ldfyre | can any tell me why I'm getting this error when installing "sourceinstaller" | 21:24 |
| c0ldfyre | <c0ldfyre> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes | 21:24 |
| c0ldfyre | <c0ldfyre> checking for GTK... no | 21:24 |
| c0ldfyre | <c0ldfyre> configure: error: could not detect required GTK >= 2.4 | 21:24 |
| nlsthzn-work | src files don't respond well to hugging... they need to be taught some binary manners first... | 21:25 |
| c0ldfyre | sorry for the spam... | 21:25 |
| nlsthzn-work | c0ldfyre: sudo aptitude install build-essential | 21:25 |
| geirha | c0ldfyre: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev | 21:26 |
| geirha | Each time you get an error like that, you're missing a -dev package | 21:26 |
| c0ldfyre | the sudo apt install. I can just run these from term as well? | 21:27 |
| nlsthzn-work | correct | 21:28 |
| c0ldfyre | right on. lemme try | 21:28 |
| geirha | yes, or use the software center or synaptic if you prefer that | 21:28 |
| c0ldfyre | thanks guys | 21:28 |
| c0ldfyre | ok | 21:28 |
| c0ldfyre | cool. term is dwnlding them now | 21:29 |
| c0ldfyre | I've been tearing my hair out since like 12am | 21:29 |
| c0ldfyre | lol | 21:29 |
| nlsthzn-work | c0ldfyre: do you really need to be compiling from source? | 21:30 |
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| c0ldfyre | What is happening here? | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | In file included from sourceinstall-gtk.c:24:0: | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | global.h:56:29: fatal error: srcinst/srcinst.h: No such file or directory | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | compilation terminated. | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | make[2]: *** [sourceinstall_gtk-sourceinstall-gtk.o] Error 1 | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/user/src/sourceinstall-gtk-2.5' | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/src/sourceinstall-gtk-2.5' | 21:58 |
| c0ldfyre | make: *** [all] Error 2 | 21:58 |
| jalcine | You have a link to the original tarball of that app you're building there? | 22:08 |
| c0ldfyre | i can get it for you. one moment while I grab it | 22:09 |
| c0ldfyre | sorry I didn't use this link earlier . http://paste.ubuntu.com/869003/ | 22:09 |
| c0ldfyre | ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/sourceinstall/sourceinstall-gtk-2.5rc2.tar.gz | 22:11 |
| c0ldfyre | that's the direct download link | 22:11 |
| jalcine | Hmm. GTK depends, might have to pull in a few more packages onto Kubuntu. | 22:13 |
| c0ldfyre | how do I do that? I've got the build essentials | 22:13 |
| c0ldfyre | ohh.. I didn't read that right the first time..lol | 22:16 |
| jalcine | Lol | 22:26 |
| jalcine | c0ldfyre: you know where to find srcinst? the base package? | 22:28 |
| jalcine | This looks like a UI to a library. | 22:28 |
| jalcine | However, if that was the case, it shouldn't have configured properly. | 22:29 |
| jalcine | Hmm. | 22:29 |
| c0ldfyre | sorry, didn't see your response | 22:32 |
| c0ldfyre | reading* | 22:32 |
| c0ldfyre | what would you suggest I do? | 22:32 |
| jalcine | Find the srcinst dependency, I'm not sure where it is. | 22:35 |
| c0ldfyre | ok | 22:35 |
| stlsaint | hey folks | 22:40 |
| stlsaint | sup all | 22:40 |
| jalcine | Hey stlsaint | 22:53 |
| jalcine | I'm finally getting a hang and learning my position in F/OSS. | 22:53 |
| stlsaint | jalcine: sup | 22:53 |
| jalcine | Did you check out http://open-advice.org? Best thing I read in a while. | 22:54 |
| jalcine | Working on code once more. :) | 22:55 |
| c0ldfyre | wow... it's a nightmare asking for help in some of these channels... These guys are nazis... lol | 22:56 |
| philipballew | c0ldfyre, what channels? | 22:56 |
| jalcine | Lol | 22:56 |
| c0ldfyre | main unbuntu chan | 22:56 |
| jalcine | Don't say ##c++ | 22:56 |
| c0ldfyre | lol | 22:57 |
| jalcine | Hostility in there? | 22:57 |
| philipballew | your sometimes get a rtfm and stuff. but they can be tough. you just gonna pretend like you know whats up | 22:57 |
| jalcine | I've never really popped into that channel. | 22:57 |
| jalcine | ^^ | 22:57 |
| jalcine | truth in f/oss. can't be discouraged. | 22:58 |
| jalcine | well, not in f/oss, but in life as a whole. | 22:58 |
| c0ldfyre | I'm having trouble with libs I guess.. I dun know what's up | 22:58 |
| c0ldfyre | I've had linux for less than 24hrs so it's expected | 22:58 |
| c0ldfyre | windows/mac usr | 22:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | good evening | 22:59 |
| philipballew | kristian-aalborg, hello | 22:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | I need to get symlinks working with sshfs | 22:59 |
| stlsaint | c0ldfyre: thats why i only remain in the BT team channels for support | 22:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | sshfs user@host:/path/to/mount/ ~/mountpoint -oauto_cache,reconnect,volname=mountname,defer_permissions,transform_symlinks,follow_symlinks | 22:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | is this proper? | 22:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | it's from a blog post I found on the subject... the spacing seems wrong | 23:00 |
| stlsaint | ive never used symlinks over ssh | 23:00 |
| stlsaint | or sshfs | 23:00 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'd actually forgotten that they were "sym" | 23:00 |
| c0ldfyre | ok. Jalcine. what did you mean earlier about the srcinst? | 23:02 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: I've asked you 3 times now in #ubuntu | 23:02 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: WHY are you trying to compile GTK | 23:02 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: gtk is massivly important to your system, so why are you trying to compile this, | 23:03 |
| c0ldfyre | im not in #unbuntu. And I've responded to you twice now. | 23:03 |
| c0ldfyre | fail.. wrong window | 23:03 |
| ikonia | you've just left #ubuntu without responding | 23:03 |
| ikonia | so why don't you actually answer in the main window here - "why" you are trying to compile gtk | 23:03 |
| c0ldfyre | I responded to you... twice... scroll back.. | 23:04 |
| jalcine | Is that so, c0ldfyre? | 23:04 |
| ikonia | you have NOT | 23:04 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: why are you trying to compile gtk # | 23:04 |
| c0ldfyre | and.. yuo would be incorrect.. if you would like I can C&P my response to you. | 23:05 |
| c0ldfyre | and... | 23:05 |
| * jalcine smells smoke. | 23:05 | |
| c0ldfyre | I'm trying to compile a source installer | 23:05 |
| * jalcine looks to stlsaint for a fire extinguisher. | 23:05 | |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: "why are you trying to copile gtk" | 23:05 |
| c0ldfyre | I want to compile a simple program.. I've got errors. I asked for advice on what to do. I'm not really doing anything.. | 23:06 |
| ikonia | you ARE | 23:06 |
| ikonia | you are trying to compile software, that is what you ARE doing | 23:06 |
| * jalcine looks at the package's code. | 23:06 | |
| ikonia | I'm asking you "why" | 23:06 |
| ikonia | what do you want to achieve ? | 23:06 |
| c0ldfyre | ok.. lets start over | 23:06 |
| philipballew | How can i unmount a drive when it says its busy? i have no things running | 23:07 |
| ikonia | philipballew: you probaly do have something using it | 23:07 |
| ikonia | philipballew: a shell or something will have it open | 23:07 |
| stlsaint | philipballew: give it a min let whatever process running finish | 23:07 |
| geirha | He's not compiling gtk | 23:08 |
| philipballew | probably that | 23:08 |
| c0ldfyre | I have a src folder.. The src is for a program that auto-compiles as far as I understand. the src is not compiling correctly. so that is where I am and that is what I have DONE | 23:08 |
| ikonia | geirha that was the question in #ubuntu | 23:08 |
| c0ldfyre | i have ./configured, but with errors. | 23:08 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: stop | 23:08 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: "what" are you trying to compile | 23:08 |
| jalcine | philipballew: you could kill the process running on the drive using lsof <drive> | 23:08 |
| jalcine | geirha: it's just a package compiler, it seems from a quick scan.. | 23:08 |
| c0ldfyre | ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/sourceinstall/sourceinstall-gtk-2.5rc2.tar.gz | 23:09 |
| philipballew | good point jalcine | 23:09 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: what do you want to actually do ? | 23:09 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: "why" are you trying to compile that | 23:09 |
| c0ldfyre | auto-compiler | 23:09 |
| jalcine | ikonia: geriha's right, it's not GTK he's building, but a source compiler. | 23:09 |
| ikonia | jalcine: in #ubuntu - it was gtk hence why I'm trying to clarify | 23:09 |
| geirha | Seems to be a sort-of package manager for GNU software | 23:10 |
| jalcine | ikonia: does it matter? | 23:10 |
| ikonia | yes | 23:10 |
| ikonia | as he's had ubuntu 4 hours, he may not actually know what he wants to do the job he wants | 23:10 |
| jalcine | c0ldfyre: your ./configure gives errors? or the `make` command? | 23:10 |
| ikonia | compiling a software product with no experience for no reason is not good advice | 23:10 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: "why" do you want this software, - what is your end goal ? | 23:10 |
| philipballew | mount -rw is mounting for read write right? | 23:10 |
| geirha | It does indeed not appear useful in an Ubuntu system | 23:11 |
| stlsaint | philipballew: what you trying to do? | 23:11 |
| ikonia | hence why I'm asking questions | 23:11 |
| ikonia | rather than just giving blind info to him | 23:11 |
| philipballew | stlsaint, mount a flash drive to my server to move keys around | 23:11 |
| jalcine | Point made, accepted and understood. | 23:11 |
| stlsaint | have you tried a manual mount? | 23:11 |
| c0ldfyre | It was suppose to keep me from having to hit terminal everytime I want to compile a src folder. | 23:11 |
| stlsaint | philipballew: mount /dev/sdc /mnt | 23:12 |
| stlsaint | ? | 23:12 |
| jalcine | c0ldfyre: why do you need this built? | 23:12 |
| c0ldfyre | like i said, it's from what I understand it to be | 23:12 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: there should be no need for you to compile software | 23:12 |
| ikonia | coalwater: what software do you actually want to build ? | 23:12 |
| ikonia | oops | 23:12 |
| philipballew | yeah i ran sudo mount -rw /dev/sdc/ /media | 23:12 |
| philipballew | and it mounts (bad front port) but it sayd /media is read only | 23:12 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: what software do you actually want to build ? | 23:12 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: (what software do you want to build that you need/want to use this system for) | 23:12 |
| philipballew | stlsaint, | 23:12 |
| c0ldfyre | thanks guys.. but you're stressing me the fuck out.. thanks | 23:13 |
| c0ldfyre | later..lol | 23:13 |
| ikonia | c0ldfyre: that language is unacceptable | 23:13 |
| ikonia | he left #ubuntu as he wouldn't answer questions, there is more going on than he is telling the channel | 23:13 |
| philipballew | that guy confuses me | 23:13 |
| jalcine | c0ldfyre, any package or piece of software you'd need would be in Ubuntu's repositories. | 23:14 |
| geirha | he left | 23:14 |
| jalcine | There's over 20,000 packages there (last time I checked Muon). | 23:14 |
| jalcine | mm. | 23:14 |
| jalcine | philipballew: same here. | 23:14 |
| * jalcine goes back to hacking Bugzilla. | 23:15 | |
| stlsaint | I would like to remind everyone here that by being in this channel you are offering advice to help new users. Not judge their intentions! | 23:15 |
| ikonia | no-one was judging him | 23:15 |
| stlsaint | ikonia: there is no reason for you to tell a user that" there should be no need for you to compile software" | 23:15 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: so let me get this straight | 23:16 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: a user who has used linux for 4 hours is trying to compile software for no reason and with no-understanding of what he's doing or why (that he is telling the channel) and you think the best advice is to just blindly give him commands | 23:16 |
| ikonia | rather than find out what he actually wants to do and advise him properly | 23:16 |
| stlsaint | ikonia: no, but your method was not one of dealing with a new user. You have to understand...that new user has no idea that software compiling is as advanced as it truly is. To them it might be something simple | 23:17 |
| ikonia | I know | 23:17 |
| ikonia | that's why I was ASKING him what he wanted to do | 23:17 |
| ikonia | what his end goal was | 23:17 |
| stlsaint | ikonia: again, you stated that there is no reason for them to compile software. | 23:18 |
| ikonia | that is exactly how to treat new users, ask them what they want to do | 23:18 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: there isn't | 23:18 |
| stlsaint | You are wrong | 23:18 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: until he can explain what he wants to do and show that he "needs" or "genuinly wants" to | 23:18 |
| stlsaint | now is there a reson for that user to compile gtk? probably not. But to say that there is no reason to compile software is a extremely fasle statement | 23:18 |
| ikonia | get a grip | 23:18 |
| ikonia | a 4 hour user of linux - there is NO need to compile software | 23:19 |
| philipballew | if the user wants to compile sometimes its because they dont know ubuntu has repos | 23:19 |
| ikonia | if there is he should be in a position to explain why he wants to | 23:19 |
| stlsaint | So why wont you explain to them what compilation entails instead of telling them they dont need to do it! | 23:19 |
| ikonia | philipballew: exactly, hence trying to find out what he really wanted to / end result was | 23:19 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: because he wouldn't tell us what he actually wanted to do | 23:19 |
| philipballew | if he truly needs to mount, might be an odd situation | 23:19 |
| philipballew | complie... | 23:19 |
| ikonia | and he clearly didn't understand what he was doing | 23:19 |
| philipballew | my mind is on mounting, sorry | 23:20 |
| stlsaint | ikonia: again this is a new user you are dealing with. If you want to deal with advanced users who think they know everything than feel free to spend your time in #arch channels | 23:20 |
| ikonia | so in that situation there is no need for a user to compile | 23:20 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: if you want to miss-guide users spend your time in another channel | 23:20 |
| stlsaint | but with a new user our job is to aid, support and educate. Obviously you were not doing that hence they left. | 23:20 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: clearly not | 23:20 |
| ikonia | stlsaint: the guy has more info than is letting on | 23:20 |
| ikonia | that's why he quit #ubuntu channel and came here | 23:21 |
| ikonia | I put effrot in to try to find out what he actually really wanted to do | 23:21 |
| ikonia | to try to steer him properly | 23:21 |
| nlsthzn | assumption | 23:21 |
| ikonia | that "is" helping a new user properly | 23:21 |
| philipballew | GUYS!!! MOVE THIS TO #ubuntu-beginners-team | 23:21 |
| stlsaint | ikonia: im not here to swing swords but ive been in ths channel much longer than you and im telling you....you were wrong in dealing with that user | 23:21 |
| philipballew | NOW! | 23:21 |
| philipballew | :) | 23:21 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 23:21 |
| philipballew | that is all... | 23:22 |
| ikonia | philipballew: you can talk normally without the random caplock, people don't need it | 23:22 |
| philipballew | i know i can. | 23:22 |
| jalcine | o.o | 23:22 |
| stlsaint | carry on... | 23:23 |
| * stlsaint goes to compile some software....just cause. | 23:23 | |
| nlsthzn | ah the fun and games of the internet | 23:23 |
| jalcine | lol, 'tis the ebb and flow of it, is it not? | 23:24 |
| stlsaint | LinuxNewb: welcome back | 23:32 |
| * jalcine should turn on joins/parts. | 23:35 | |
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