[18:46] mōrena [19:33] morning [19:46] morning [19:52] seems like even windows in a VM isn't immune to suddenly breaking without warning, came to my desk to see it complaining & wanting to do a system restore :) [19:53] morning [19:57] yikes, I'm getting married in less than two weeks! :) [19:59] chilts: being married is great, one no longer has to stress about the wedding [19:59] heh, yeah, I think that happens a lot [19:59] I'm looking forward to having more time to do other things, but looking forward to the day itself (can't do anything more then) [20:00] morning [20:27] morning [21:14] http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10789863 [21:17] i want a cotton candy for $48 [22:01] morning [22:16] mwhudson: so back country eh? [22:45] lifeless: just trying to find a route i once drove to show to a friend [22:47] mwhudson: tried osm ? [22:47] lifeless: no, maybe i should have though [22:47] (i beat google maps into submission in the end) [22:49] mmm, osm is better on locations but worse on roads [22:55] patches welcome! [23:30] ojwb: do you do Open Street Map stuff? [23:30] I keep meaning to do it, but Java puts me off and as far as I remember the JavaScript editor is pretty bad [23:30] I'd love to make a good one in JS for them, but I can't afford the time [23:30] i haven't for quite a while [23:31] the javascript one had improved quite a lot last time I used it [23:31] oh right, so you just log in and go [23:31] that would be useful [23:31] there's a C or C++ one too, which wasn't bad but a bit rough in places [23:31] but that's quite likely to have evolved too [23:32] wonder if they have an API [23:32] yeah, there is [23:32] hmm ... http://www.openstreetmap.org/ or http://www.openstreetmap.org.nz/ [23:32] wonder if the data is the same, or who has the 'master' copy [23:33] the latter is some local OSM user(s), but I don't think they've done much with it [23:33] it should be the same data [23:34] "You need a Flash player to use Potlatch, the OpenStreetMap Flash editor. You can download Flash Player from Adobe.com. Several other options are also available for editing OpenStreetMap." [23:34] :( [23:34] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing#The_top_two <- Flash and Java [23:34] oh, it was flash not javascript [23:35] yeah :( [23:35] nope, no mention of JavaScript on that page at all [23:36] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merkaartor is the one I used mostly [23:36] ojwb: what the smallest, easiest, most miniscule thing you can do on OSM to make an edit (ie. a good test for a JS editor)? [23:36] add a point feature, I guess [23:36] like a postbox or something? [23:37] yeah [23:37] I see my street isn't correct since it's been extended recently [23:37] if you mean for testing, I think there's a sandbox [23:37] righto, cool [23:37] well, I guess I'll have a play in April sometime :D [23:37] oh, and merkaartor looks like it's in Lucid and wants to install 74MB, which I'll try later on [23:39] lots of QT4 stuff [23:40] i don't see anything about a sandbox, perhaps I'm confused [23:41] but it's usually not hard to find a missing postbox or tree or ... [23:42] chilts: ojwb: (jumping in the convo blind not having read backlog) but there is a NZ Mailing list that is discussing getting LINZ data properly imported [23:43] * ojwb knows [23:43] chilts: http://groups.google.com/group/nzopengis?hl=en. [23:49] yeah, but I'm more interested in being able to edit the map easily ... which I don't think is possible yet (without using Flash) [23:49] or Java [23:49] ie. rock on up to a website and start editing - nothing to install