[01:43] <brousch> Dicey roads around Lowell, but we made it home
[01:47] <rick_h_> yay, how was the sprint?
[01:48] <brousch> Intimate
[01:57] <Blazeix> brousch++
[01:58] <brousch> Just snap-l, gib, me, and jodee
[02:00] <snap-l> Very intimate.
[02:00] <snap-l> Had soft music, candles, and libations
[02:04] <brousch> Still no dup on my bugs. I am awesome
[02:43] <snap-l> http://thiefscandle.bandcamp.com/ <- Wow, it's like musical geocities
[02:51] <rick_h_> snap-l: cool, sorry it wasn't a full house
[03:18] <rick_h_> ummm http://paste.mitechie.com/show/557/ ...
[03:20] <nixternal> why does every freakin' java package have a dependency on ant? at least they fixed them installing ant & maven at the same damn time
[03:22] <nixternal> and why would you install jenkins or any java package from the ubuntu repos? everyone should know by now you don't touch them or ruby packages with a 10-foot pole
[03:22] <rick_h_> well I wanted to check out the officials vs the jenkins ppa
[03:23] <rick_h_> since we're starting to use a lot of jenkins figured it'd be good stuff
[03:23] <rick_h_> and it's a new precise install
[03:23] <rick_h_> but then that scared the crap out of me
[03:23] <nixternal> i have started creating a ~/.dev-src and just building from source
[03:23] <rick_h_> ah
[03:23] <nixternal> especially with java & ruby stuff
[03:23] <rick_h_> yea, I'm working on trying to setup more docs/auto building things for stuff I use
[03:24] <nixternal> i need to do the same now that work is picking up
[03:25] <nixternal> plus with jenkins, the easy part is installing. setting it up, even from the repos is still a pita
[03:25] <rick_h_> yea, definitely. I wish there was a better export/import/setup stuff
[03:25] <rick_h_> but oh well, I need to get it running so here we go
[03:25] <nixternal> build one :)
[03:25] <rick_h_> havne't had bookie auto builds in a while
[03:25] <rick_h_> heh, I've got enough crap to code right now
[03:26] <nixternal> thanks for bookie btw. it has pretty much replaced my /web-dev/ feeds in google reader :)
[03:26] <rick_h_> oh you tinkering with it?
[03:26] <nixternal> oh yeah
[03:27] <nixternal> i snoop it daily a couple of times a day
[03:27] <rick_h_> awesome
[03:27] <jjesse> nixternal,  how come i was in chicago for 2 weeks and we never got together?
[03:27] <jjesse> like lunch or antyhing
[03:28] <nixternal> how come you never called me while you were here? that is all your fault you were here that long and didn't touch base with me :p
[03:28] <jjesse> hahaha
[03:28] <jjesse> cause i no longer have your # in my phone
[03:29] <jjesse> i mean hell i checked all over foursquare
[03:29] <nixternal> 630 445 3860
[03:30] <nixternal> my website has my number on it too
[03:34] <jjesse> ok ok added it
[03:37] <nixternal> groovy
[03:37] <nixternal> what were you doing in chicago for 2 weeks?
[03:49] <snap-l> http://assuke.bandcamp.com/album/broken-back-ep
[03:51] <nixternal> you ever watch that tv show on hbo called angry boys?
[03:51] <nixternal> that reminded me of the rapper dude, smouse and his raps. especially the no arms one
[03:51] <nixternal> he just repeats nonsense over and over. absolutely hillarious
[03:53] <snap-l> apparently i found a disciple.
[03:56] <tjagoda> nixternal
[03:56] <tjagoda> your number is now logged in the ubuntu irc logs
[03:56] <tjagoda> fyi =(
[03:58] <nixternal> my number has been in the logs forever
[03:58] <nixternal> my number is in LP, my website, twitter, you name it
[03:59] <tjagoda> This guy
[03:59] <tjagoda> Is the face in the dictionary next to "open"
[04:00] <snap-l> tjagoda: It's also got a "see also: don't fuck with me"
[04:00] <nixternal> believe it or not, i rarely get spammed. people who use it and call me are legit, and it gets me work when i am sitting around in my undies doing nothing :)
[04:00] <snap-l> I have my GV number on my site
[04:01] <snap-l> And sometimes that gets me useful calls, but mostly it gets me recruiters that don't know when to bugger off
[04:01] <nixternal> yeah, i think mine is there now as well
[04:01] <nixternal> i have them both actually
[04:01] <jjesse> who wants a that mental picture of nixternal  sitting in his undies
[04:01] <jjesse> garagh
[04:01] <nixternal> if someone calls & the number isn't in my address book, it goes straight to voice mail anyways
[04:02] <nixternal> better than the mental picture i am about to give you. i am chatting to you right now sitting on the toilet
[04:02] <jjesse> awesome have a good dump for me
[04:02] <nixternal> you are sick!
[04:03] <snap-l>   mention my name for a good seat
[04:03] <snap-l> Pinch one off for victory
[04:03] <nixternal> haha
[04:03] <nixternal> you all have issues, worse than me i think
[04:05] <nixternal> rick_h_: actually, the font you use for the bookie logo, inspired me to use it for my cycling team's website. is that cabin sketch or are you using a non-free font? i can't remember now
[04:06] <nixternal> it fits perfect when used with a blueprint like background, especially when "By Design" is in your team's name
[04:06] <nixternal> maybe one of these days I will finish the damn site
[04:06] <rick_h_> nixternal: yea, cabin sketch from google's fonts and just cabin for the rest
[04:06] <nixternal> heh, yeah, i was using cabin already, but didn't know about the cabin sketch until i snooped your github
[04:07] <nixternal> well, i know who is adding the bandcamp links now
[04:07] <rick_h_> bah, stupid jenkins isn't using a jenkins user, "start by user anonymous" so I can't su and fix path issues :(
[04:07] <nixternal> from the repos?
[04:08] <rick_h_> yea
[04:08] <rick_h_> figured wtf I'd try it, not regretting it
[04:08] <rick_h_> set shell to /bin/zsh, can't find virtualenv in python path, but it's installed system wide
[04:08] <nixternal> hrmm, i swore by default the user:group was jenkins:jenkins
[04:08] <rick_h_> yea, used to be, but nothing in my /etc/passwd for it
[04:09] <nixternal> now that is interesting. i use zsh and have no probs with virtualenv
[04:09] <rick_h_> % sudo su jenkins                                                                          (rharding@wingman:~/)
[04:09] <rick_h_> Unknown id: jenkins
[04:09] <nixternal> hrmm, did the package creat a jenkins group?
[04:09] <nixternal> or are they using www-data by default?
[04:09] <rick_h_> nope, just tomcat
[04:09] <rick_h_> oh hmm, dind't think of www-data
[04:10] <rick_h_> hmmm, if I su www-data I can get virtualenv
[04:11] <nixternal> did you log in/out after setting the shell to zsh? that can be a tricky sob if you don't log in/out
[04:11] <nixternal> chsh - enter your password - then do:  /bin/ksh  - i dare you!
[04:12] <nixternal> i would like to kill the 1990s linux user who set korn shell on every freakin' machine at one of my client's locations
[04:12] <nixternal> first thing i do now is type 'bash'
[04:13] <nixternal> i can't stand ^h anymore
[04:14] <rick_h_> bah, set unix auth and now can't login. I have a feeling this test with local packages is coming to an end
[04:23] <nixternal> haha
[04:42] <rick_h_> almost, cool
[04:42] <rick_h_> well this was a bigger pita than originally planned
[04:44] <nixternal> it usually is especially when the plan starts with 'sudo apt-get'
[04:45] <nixternal> or zypper, or yum, or pacman. it doesn't matter which distro (except for slackware), they all have bum packages when it comes to a non-distro development environment
[04:46] <nixternal> great for packaging and writing useless python scripts/apps
[04:46] <nixternal> remember, the goal behind any dev environment in ubuntu is "opportunistic". real dev starts with './configure && make -j9 && make install'
[04:46] <nixternal> or pip :)
[04:47] <rick_h_> well fortunately it's make install && make builder_test
[04:47] <nixternal> i get scared when they take care of the ./configure portion
[04:47] <rick_h_> well this is bookie so pure python stuff in a virtualenv
[14:29] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:29] <rick_h_> morning
[14:43] <_stink_> yo
[15:41] <brousch> water heater burst this morning. fun fun
[15:43] <tjagoda> Carpeted area around it?
[15:43] <brousch> no
[15:43] <brousch> and i had a pan and drainage hoses hooked up, so not too bad
[15:44] <tjagoda> Thats good
[15:44] <tjagoda> Last time our burst it overflowed the pan and got the carpet in the room next door
[15:44] <brousch> it would've gone over if i wasn't home to turn off the water
[15:45] <rick_h_> ugh, that sucks brousch :(
[15:45] <tjagoda> nice
[15:45] <brousch> and blown up the house since the pilot went out and gas was leaking
[15:55] <tjagoda> oh jesus
[15:55] <tjagoda> electric water heaters here
[17:28] <snap-l> brousch: Ugh, sorry to hear that. Hope it can get cleaned up and fixed soon
[17:28] <snap-l> and glad it didn't happen during jam time
[17:58] <brousch> snap-l: yeah
[17:58] <brousch> it's not a big mess. i had hoses hooked up beforehand. just no hot water until we get it replaced
[18:53] <tjagoda> Giant system76 machine about to be reviewed on this neat show about Linux: http://jblive.tv/
[18:53] <tjagoda> The Leopard water cooled extreme omg machine
[18:54] <snap-l> Reminder: Meeting tonight
[19:44] <tjagoda> brousch: descentos.com
[19:44] <tjagoda> erh
[19:44] <tjagoda> brousch: www.descentos.com
[19:44] <tjagoda> It's attempting to modernize Gnome2.2
[19:48] <brousch> bah
[19:48] <brousch> just use kde
[19:48] <Blazeix> or xfce
[19:48] <brousch> there are what, 3 different things trying to fork gnome2 now?
[19:49] <Blazeix> are ther any successful ones? the only other one I've heard of is Mate
[19:49] <Blazeix> which seems kind of dead
[20:02] <tjagoda> Believe in the gnome of yesteryear, brousch!
[20:29] <snap-l> god, I hate Windows.