[19:14] <mazafaka> When I import (.MP4) video into lives, it saves it into ~/livestmp/weird_number directory, right? So I can then reopen it already divided into frames pointing this directory?
[19:16] <holstein> whats "lives" ?
[19:16] <holstein> i say, try it... it shouldnt break anything.. it'll just work or not
[19:16] <mazafaka> L.I.V.E.S
[19:17] <mazafaka> it takes a time, the importing of the videos to mix sound from one with edited version of another.
[19:17] <holstein> http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[19:17] <holstein> found something on it
[19:17] <holstein> if its taking time, then its likely reading, and pulling in what you want
[19:17] <mazafaka> I'll find, but it will be in another era or so...
[19:18] <mazafaka> it creates frames as separates files
[19:18] <holstein> i mean, it really depends on how its set up...
[19:22] <mazafaka> it's its style
[19:27] <gareth_> Hello good people of #ubuntustudio. Does anyone have a moment to answer a question about where the studio controls have disappeared to in the new precise pangolin edition of studio? I want to sort out my Firewire card for realtime shizzles.
[19:28] <mazafaka> What are 'shizzles'?
[19:29] <holstein> gareth_: you shouldnt need that
[19:29] <gareth_> um you know I've never thought to ask. I think it's a condencement of "sh*ts and giggles"
[19:29] <holstein> if you need a realtime kernel, you need to use https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[19:30] <holstein> gareth_: im not following man
[19:30] <holstein> i have a firewire device
[19:30] <holstein> i start out with the command...
[19:30] <holstein> gksudo qjackctl
[19:30] <holstein> when that is running stable i then move forward knowing other issues are permissions related
[19:31] <holstein> if you need a lowlatency or realtime kernel, refer to that PPA
[19:31] <holstein> we do not ship a kernel like that right now, though 12.04 will have it
[19:32] <holstein> if you want to be using 12.04 now, its beta.. i would join #ubuntu+1, and report any bugs offically... you are welcome to join any mailing lists, and/or #ubuntustudio-devel
[19:33] <gareth_> although that would be shiggles. Either way it has served only to confuse the question :) ok qjackctl runs without realtime enabled if that is what you mean by stable
[19:33] <holstein> the RT checkbox should *not* cuase jack to crash now
[19:34] <holstein> i would run , like i suggested... gksudo qjackctl
[19:35] <holstein> this will take the permissions issue out of the equation
[19:35] <holstein> you wont get true RT with firwire, and the generic kernel
[19:35] <gareth_> no it's crashed out on me still when running as root
[19:36] <holstein> or at least that is what my recetnnt testing has proved
[19:36] <holstein> recent*
[19:37] <holstein> gareth_: what you are finding also tells you something
[19:37] <holstein> you have the machine configured incorrectly
[19:37] <holstein> the driver support isnt there for your device, or the firwire chip
[19:38] <holstein> you can try ubuntustudio 12.04 live
[19:38] <holstein> you can try AVlinux live
[19:40] <gareth_> ah ok it's just I hade 10.10 and that was just the generic bog standard ubuntu and qjackctl worked on RT without much work.
[19:40] <gareth_> but you're saying there's another version of Studio that I'd have to use to get RT with 12.04
[19:41] <holstein> gareth_: nope
[19:41] <holstein> im saying, 12.04 *will* ship with a lowlatency kernel
[19:41] <gareth_> but not yet?
[19:41] <holstein> im saying, 10.10 through 11.10 did *not* have the RT kernel
[19:41] <holstein> gareth_: 12.04 is in beta
[19:42] <holstein> it has not shipped at all yet
[19:42] <holstein> that PPA i linked works with the others
[19:42] <holstein> however, the need for a realtime kernel is much less important these days
[19:44] <gareth_> yeah I know it's beta. And despite the last few incarnations of ubuntu didn't have the RT kernel I could still run qjackctl in RT mode
[19:44] <holstein> yup
[19:44] <holstein> its not mandatory anymore
[19:44] <holstein> but, you were not getting full RT
[19:45] <holstein> if you look in the jack messages... its just not stopping on that "error" anymore
[19:46] <gareth_> ok so what was I getting and is it possible to get the same with the 12.04 beta or will I have to wait for the RT kernel to be shipped with the release when it actually is released?
[19:47] <holstein> gareth_: you can try it.. you can even try it live
[19:47] <holstein> i cant guarantee anything til its actually released
[19:47] <holstein> i have tried the live CD with my firewire gear to test
[19:47] <holstein> you can do the same :)
[19:49] <gareth_> oh wait I think you misunderstand. I've installed 12.04 studio already, done a full clean install as I wanted to go for a studio install rather than the vanilla Ubuntu. I thought I could iron these issues out when they arised
[19:50] <gareth_> seeing as I was pretty confident that the firewire support was quite robust now
[19:50] <holstein> gareth_: cool.. you can join #ubuntu+1
[19:51] <holstein> otherwise, just fire up the device, and troubleshoot the errors
[19:51] <holstein> i can only say, again, that my firewire device has tested fine in the 12.04 live environment on my studio rig
[19:52] <holstein> i would not expect 12.04 to be stable at all though for a while