[12:23] madnick, ? [12:24] madnick, can you answer asap [12:27] knome: yes [12:27] madnick, great! ochosi needs your help :) [12:28] hey madnick :) [12:28] hi ochosi :) [12:28] i'm trying to theme lightdm-gtk-greeter with gtk3 css [12:28] do you know how to find out the correct classes? [12:28] * knome goes setting up 2-step verification for google accts [12:28] (i tried according to http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/GtkCssProvider.html example 24) [12:29] I am acctually nore sure [12:29] not* [12:29] according to the glade file, the gtkwindow id is "login_window" [12:30] i see [12:30] looking at the gtk3.3 doc the suggested syntax to match it would be "GtkWindow#login_window" [12:30] but that doesn't work [12:30] I have never acctually used this feature [12:30] :( [12:30] dunno who else i could ask [12:30] i'm also mostly guessing [12:30] There is a project called something [12:30] that project that unity desktop uses [12:30] they have an irc channel you can ask about lightdm aswell [12:31] pandora? hm, something "pan" i think [12:32] hm, ok, i'll try to find that then [12:33] I am really sorry I cannot be of more help [12:34] i guess there's no other way to theme the default greeter [12:37] not in a major way [12:37] well, i mostly want a dark theme for it [12:37] and a few widgets seem broken [12:38] like the userlist [12:39] madnick: can't find it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [12:40] at least nothing with "pan" [12:40] !alis [12:40] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* [12:43] hm [12:43] wait [12:45] sorry i cant find it either :\ [15:20] pleia2, knome http://xubuntu.org/news/precisebeta1/ here where it says >nm-connection-manager, should say nm-connection-editor [16:05] GridCube, fixed [16:06] GridCube, btw, i just added you to the xubuntu-team @ LP [16:10] madnick, do you think you could fic the fsck-text for precise in the current plymouth theme? [16:10] :3 thanks [16:10] madnick, also, would transparent PNG's work for the indicator, or do you need a non-transparent one? [16:11] knome, are we going to use madnick's ligthdm engine for login? or the current oldskull one? [16:11] current for precise [16:11] mmkay [16:12] we're trying to get some improvements into it though [16:13] GridCube, do you think the current testcases are fine? i mean, does it make sense that with desktop, manual partitioning is mandatory, but with alternate it's run-once ? [16:13] GridCube, also, what about wubi? do we have anybody to even test that? [16:15] knome: transparent should work [16:15] madnick, okay, thanks. i'll provide you a new throbber sometime soon, if that's okay? [16:15] I will try to get on the fsck-text, i have a vauge memory of already fixing that, but i will see [16:16] thanks [16:16] okay sounds good [16:16] i think with that, plymouth is almost optimal [16:16] knome, i haven't done many desktops installs, but i find it rather silly to force manual partitioning on desktop [16:16] i mean yeah, the throbber could be circular, but yeah... [16:16] desktop is for users trying a new desktop, moving from windows to linux, so, forcing them to do high level stuff its silly [16:16] GridCube, so that could be run-once? :) [16:17] GridCube, well, we aren't forcing. it's just an option, and some want that [16:17] GridCube, so what about wubi? [16:18] well, ill get back to you tomorrow, i shall get some much needed sleep :) Poke me if I seem afk, I mostly have IRC open [16:18] madnick, okay, i will. thanks :) [16:18] GridCube, i'm generally trying to make the tests doable with current manpower [16:19] yes, i usually do the autoresize and whole disk, not much about manual, in my tests [16:19] GridCube, and trying to direct extra manpower to most useful tests first [16:19] because i want to know if it doesnt mess things up [16:19] if thats what youre asking [16:19] mmh. what about wubi? [16:19] (still asking the same question :P) [16:20] can't do wubi tests [16:20] do we have anybody to even do that? [16:20] no idea [16:20] have you seen any wubi test for xubuntu been done ever? [16:20] skaet, you there? [16:20] not that i know off, but a friend of mine installed 11.10 with wubi a few weeks ago [16:20] yeah, i see [16:20] no problems on her end [16:47] knome: just to be sure, you'll take care of plymouth? [16:47] ochosi, i will [16:47] knome: ok good, then i can remove that from my list [16:47] :) [16:47] * knome just ate pasta with naga jolokia, again :) [16:47] greybird's gtk3 is finally bug-free again in precise [16:47] love it [16:47] no clue what naga jolokia is [16:48] chili [16:48] but i gotta vacuum the living room now [16:48] 2x hotter than habanero [16:48] mm :) [16:48] ochosi, question, its possible to make greybird borders at least 2px, 1px its just not working for so many people [16:48] GridCube, that's why there's the resize-grip :) [16:48] and we should really promote shortcuts like alt+right-click-drag [16:49] ooooo [16:49] i've never heard of that one [16:49] hahah, yeah [16:49] D: [16:49] that's why we should promote [16:49] THATS AWESOME [16:49] yup, no worry of 1px border... [16:51] GridCube: usually telling the people about the shortcut is even better than thicker window-borders [16:52] but yeah, i know, some people have also been moaning about it on the forums [16:52] :) [16:52] personally i think it's ok that you can resize xfwm easily in the top corners [16:52] this is something that should go to a faq [16:53] yup [16:53] something like the shortcuts-overlay in unity could also be nice for xubuntu [16:53] GridCube, let's say we're planning a whole article on it and the other shortcuts :P [16:53] good [17:33] hi === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:29] ochosi: did you get my email re: artwork page to review? [19:32] knome: others: I created an initial version of -live. You can find it @ https://code.launchpad.net/~astraljava/+junk/xubuntu-live, because I'm not a part of ~xubuntu-dev. [19:33] Note that this is just a rename of everything Ubuntu Studio so far, so changes will happen largely, still. [19:33] But check it out, point out bugs etc. [19:34] And whenever you feel like it, create a project under your team, and merge my branch to that. [19:48] astraljava, mmh, need to look at that. i was thinking that maybe we want to postpone until P+1 [19:48] astraljava, what do you think? [19:48] astraljava, i mean, rather wait now, and push it as soon as possible in the Q cycle, then allow people to test it and see if there are problems [19:49] astraljava, and, now you are a member of xubuntu-team [20:13] knome: I don't really have an opinion. Whatever you want to do about it. [20:13] knome: Ok, thanks. I can register the project later, and register the branch for that project, then. [20:14] I'll be sleeping now, gotta wake up at 5:30 tomorrow. [21:25] can someone help me with some bash magic? [21:26] i want to install a default settings file for JACK for new installs, but if the file exists (i.e. the use is installing ubuntustudio-default-settings and already has settings) i don't want it to install [21:26] ScottL, :P wouldnt #bash be like the best place to ask?, just sayan [21:29] sounds like a packaging thing [21:29] ScottL: you don't need bash magic, but a postinst that installs it on install only [22:31] micahg, correct, that's what i really meant, sorry for the confusion [22:47] micahg, would this be a good example to use? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/xubuntu-default-settings/precise/view/head:/debian/xubuntu-default-settings.postinst