[00:03] sreich: can you copy the CMakeLists.txt over again? [00:03] sure [00:04] Riddell: there, it's in ~/kdeplasma-addons/CMakeLists.txt === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ [00:18] Riddell: is it done? [00:19] sreich: yes I think it is [00:19] Riddell: the .debian.tar.gz is what i care about? [00:20] and .dsc [00:20] and .orig.tar for kdeplasma-addons [00:21] Riddell: what do i do with it exactly? [00:22] sreich: either compiler it or put it into a PPA to compile [00:23] Riddell: uh..how do i compile though? [00:23] dpkg-source -x *dsc to uncompress it [00:23] and debuild to compile it [00:24] backup at http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/sreich/ [00:35] * Riddell snoozes [00:36] night, and thanks === webjadmin_ is now known as JackyAlcine_ === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine_ === emma_ is now known as emma === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine_ === webjadmin is now known as jalcine [09:42] need help [09:43] with plasma network manager [10:14] oh well [10:21] is there a reason why kdeaccessibility and kdeutils haven't been updated to 4.7.4 (which are available in Debian experimental) and FTBFS in teh latest rebuild [10:23] micahg: there are no sources for 4.8 for those, there's a source removal request for them somewhere [10:23] ah, ok [10:24] * micahg goes and tags the requests FTBFS [10:46] Riddell: mm i did the qml animation with kubuntu logo (splash) [10:48] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QML+animated+Graphite+Kubuntu+Splash?content=149317 [10:53] very nice [10:53] rbelem: it works! [11:35] Riddell: ppa versions in the archive again? [11:36] oh grr [11:36] can I keep blaming it on having brain damage? [11:37] * micahg isn't sure [11:37] * micahg trusts Riddell isn't doing that on purpose [11:38] no just absentmindedness [11:38] I wonder if dput can get a check for ~ppa in the version number [11:49] Riddell: I have written a small dput wrapper script that does some sanity checking: http://paste.debian.net/158606/ [11:50] and then set alias dput='~/scripts/dput-safe' [11:52] it has some limitation though: doesn't parse /etc/dput.cf and it might not understand the generic ppa:* syntax [11:52] debfx: very sensible [12:04] yofel: wow, have you really packaged everything for precise? [12:05] with some help from bulldog98 :) [12:06] !testers [12:06] Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em [12:06] 4.8.1 testing needed [12:06] oh has been released ? [12:07] Riddell, in backports ? === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:37] hi! when write code with KUniqueApplication and dbus in terminal get message: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication use Qt 4.8. Is this a qt bug or am I doing something wrong? [12:45] I am not very experienced in programming (C++/Qt), can help with anything kubuntu? [13:08] Riddell, :-D [13:16] Riddell, will you upload them all? :-) [13:19] Hey all === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:34] brestows: Packaging (which is most of what we do) only requires a basic knowledge of shell and make to get started, so yes. [13:36] ScottK: Where can I start from? [13:37] brestows: I think what we need now is people to help with testing KDE 4.8.1 on precise. Do you have a machine running precise (or a vm)? [13:38] ScottK: hame a machine [13:38] *have [13:38] Also there are tons of bugs on launchpad that need people to review them, see if they are still applicable, and forward them to bugs.kde.org if they are about upstream code and not packaging. I think yofel_ has been working on that. [13:38] ScottK, precise here but i haven't added the ppa if there is one [13:38] brestows: OK. And you're willing to risk breakage? [13:38] for 4.8.1 [13:38] Hi there, I was just sent here from #kubuntu as apt-get refuses to upgrade my stock Kubuntu Oneiric installation with KDE 4.7.4 to KDE 4.8.0 from the backports PPA with the following error message: [13:38] E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'kjots'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:39] Riddell: brestows and BluesKaj would test 4.8.1. [13:39] Specialist: can you pastebin a bit more of the upgrade log. [13:39] Does someone have an idea what might be the culprit or where to continue looking for the roor cause? [13:40] ScottK: Do you mean the console output? [13:40] Yes [13:41] ScottK: Sure: http://pastebin.com/rCLYikec [13:41] ScottK: no problem :) think I can fix the [13:42] brestows: OK. Riddell was looking for 4.8.1 testers a little bit ago, let's wait to hear from him. [13:43] ScottK: ok. will wait [13:45] ScottK, what errors / breakage can we expect from 4.8.1, any idea ? The reason I ask is my test machine is down for the count ...mobo problems I think , so I have only one pc atm [13:45] it's in ninjas [13:45] go testing [13:45] BluesKaj: Since it's just a point release, in theory it should be OK, but they call it testing for a reason. [13:46] Riddell: brestows is new, he'll need help. [13:47] ScottK, understood [13:49] Specialist: Do you have the kdepim or kdepim-dev packages installed? [13:50] ScottK: kdepim is installed (4:4.7.4+git111222-0ubuntu0.1), kdepim-dev isn't [13:51] Specialist: OK. Try removing kdepim (it's just a metapackage) and upgrading again. [13:52] ScottK: Unfortunately, same error message. Is the (2) an error code? That would mean "File not found", right? [13:53] Specialist: Not in this case. How about kdepim-dbg, or kjots-dbg, or kjots-dbgsym? [13:54] Removing kdepim-dbg did the trick. [13:54] If you don't have any of those or removing them doesn't solve it, I'd try removing kjots, doing the upgrade, and installing it again. [13:54] Ah. Very good. [13:54] You can put it and kdepim back after the upgrade if you want. Should be fine. [13:55] ScottK: Excellent, thanks for your help! [13:55] You're welcome. [14:01] hi brestows, did you get what you needed to test? [14:02] Riddell: No ^( [14:02] :( [14:02] soee: it's in ninjas [14:02] Peace-: no it has not been released, we need testers [14:02] brestows: are you able and willing to test 4.8.1 on precise? [14:03] Riddell, ok ill test when i came home im at work now [14:03] Riddell: yes? no problem [14:04] brestows: add that PPA [14:04] and dist upgrade away [14:05] thanks soee [14:06] bug 829503 anyone? [14:06] Launchpad bug 829503 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "plasma-widget-menubar version 0.1.15-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829503 [14:06] I'm inclined to agree with vorlon [14:07] Riddell: give me address ppa [14:11] shadeslayer: me too, but best to discuss that with the Debian folks [14:11] debfx: okay [14:18] Riddell: i built kdeplasma-addons, now i have ~10 debs. i tried dpkg -i *.deb but it fails and just says "errors were encoutnered while processing: plasma-widget-kimpanel" [14:19] sreich: sudo apt-get -f install to install any missing dependencies. [14:20] same issue [14:21] yes! [14:21] my stuff works, that's all i care about [14:21] thanks :) [14:22] brestows: you have 12.04 installed? [14:27] Riddell: yes [14:30] went home [14:34] Riddell: bug 676398, what are we waiting for? [14:34] Launchpad bug 676398 in koffice (Ubuntu) "Split out Kexi database plugins" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676398 [14:35] whoa [14:35] new bugzilla [14:35] yay [14:35] looks pretty [14:35] shadeslayer: at the time we were waiting on calligra [14:36] Riddell: ah right [14:36] ok , gotta go ...bb in a few hrs [14:36] shadeslayer: the calligra packaging has changes somewhat so it needs reviewed on whether the bug is still valid [14:36] Alright, I'll add a comment saying that [14:38] Riddell: should I assign that bug to someone? ( I'm guessing you, since you packaged Calligra ) [14:40] shadeslayer: forward it upstream if it's still needed [14:40] upstream to debian [14:40] they do the main part of calligra packaging [14:40] looking [14:44] gitweb is sloowwww [14:45] shadeslayer: it's called git for a reason [14:45] heh :) [14:47] Riddell: I see split packages for kexi-mysql-driver, kexi-postgresql-driver, etc [14:48] To be precise, 4 split driver packages, so I guess the bug is fixed [14:53] shadeslayer: yes I would say so [14:53] random e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/433808/ [14:55] o/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [14:56] it's.. yofel! star packager of 4.8.1 [14:59] yes, finally, a package that does not build on ARM that I might be able to fix \o/ [14:59] shadeslayer: iirc digikam failed on armhf if you really have nothing to do [14:59] yes [14:59] that's what I'm looking at [14:59] ah :) [14:59] harvest is pretty usefull [14:59] -l [15:00] heh, second search result for qBound, qBound on ARM xD [15:08] ScottK: about? [15:10] ScottK: unping [15:10] does : qreal(0.) : look sane to you? [15:10] Riddell: I am here. [15:10] too late :) [15:10] or should I do it as qreal(0.0) or qreal(0) ? [15:11] shadeslayer: I expect they are all the same in the end [15:11] I'd use qreal(0.0) [15:11] yeah, but what I wanted to know was, which one looks the sanest :P [15:11] shadeslayer: if you need an arm to test it on ScottK can provide [15:11] yeah, sec, just coming up with a patch [15:12] Assuming it's armel too and not armhf specific. [15:12] it's armel too [15:13] ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/433820/ [15:13] back for a bit ...looked in the ninja ppas , couldn't find the 4.8.1 for Precise [15:15] hey Kubuntu devs, could someone have a look at bug 945560? I _think_ it simply needs a new upload of the kde-l10n packages [15:15] Launchpad bug 945560 in Ubuntu Translations "Precise's KDE translation templates on Launchpad are not updated for KDE SC 4.8" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/945560 [15:16] shadeslayer: And this is with the digikam in the archive? [15:16] oh no [15:16] that's from git [15:16] sec [15:16] seems they changed the layout of the sources [15:17] dpm: hum, we have uploaded kde-l10n about 6 weeks ago [15:17] BTW, I'd recommend looking at the rest of that file for similar instances. IME there are often more in the same file. [15:17] dpm: we'll be doing another upload this week [15:17] will do [15:18] shadeslayer: If you can point me at a source pacakge I can dget, I get try to build it on armel. [15:18] ok [15:18] Riddell, ok, thanks, I'll keep an eye on it and see if it fixes the problem [15:18] bbiab [15:18] dpm: yeah and I'll doubt check the .pos are all being generated [15:19] great, thanks Riddell [15:19] dpm: there's no milestone for that? [15:19] Riddell, milestone for what? [15:20] dpm: I make it affect language-pack-kde-fr as well and milestoned it to beta 2 [15:20] ok [15:23] * debfx is looking forward to the next cycle when we don't have to deal with that anymore [15:26] +1 [15:33] Riddell, am I blind or does ninja ppa actually have 4.8.1 ? [15:34] BluesKaj: that is 4.8.1, yes [15:35] yofel , sorry i can't find it ..is what i mean [15:35] BluesKaj: only for precise right now [15:36] yeah , i'm on precise [15:37] well, it's in there, are you sure you have the ppa enabled for precise [15:37] ? [15:37] I'm looking for the ppa yofel :) [15:38] BluesKaj: can you access https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa ? [15:39] no access , not allowed , altho I'm a launchpad member [15:39] then you're not a member of ~kubuntu-ninjas, access is restricted [15:39] Riddell: ^ [15:40] ok , well anyway , I have to leave for an hr or so. I'll check back then [15:40] Riddell, 4.8.1 for 12.04 right ? [15:40] soee: right [15:40] ok [15:50] hmm error, ppa key problem ? [15:52] You need to install the key for that PPA. [15:54] nvm, i havent changed oneiric to precise [15:54] upgrading now [16:02] ScottK: if (d->fixedRatio > 0.) << Would that also cause errors? [16:03] fixedRatio is double here [16:03] I think not. [16:03] ok [16:06] uh, wouldn't anything that's double cause errors on ARM? [16:06] or did I understand something wrong here [16:09] dunno, I think double gets converted to float on ARM [16:09] BluesKaj: ask if you need access details to ninjas [16:13] yofel: As long as it's two doubles, it's fine, it's when you have a mix of qreal and double it's a problem (because qreal != double on arm) [16:14] ScottK: what happens when you get 2 doubles? [16:14] both get converted to float? [16:15] Dunno. It doesn't expload. That's all I know. [16:15] :D [16:15] fun [16:15] * shadeslayer ponders what actually happens [16:18] yofel: fun is also this : https://github.com/torvalds/linux/graphs/impact [16:18] makes your browser crash and burn [16:20] shadeslayer: heh, firefox saved itself by "stopping an unresponsive script" [16:21] rekonq does that too :) [16:21] Yes, but if you tell it to go on, eventually it renders the graph (FF). [16:22] interesting, chrome just kills itself [16:23] ScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/digikam_2.5.0-1ubuntu2~ppa1.dsc [16:24] oh wait [16:24] I found another one [16:24] * ScottK waits. [16:24] arf, that's just the .pc folder, ignore that comment [16:25] shadeslayer: Is your patch already applied to that package? [16:25] ScottK: yes [16:25] OK [16:25] no new KDE for 11.10 for testing yet? [16:26] kubuntu_fix_arm_build.patch <- That one [16:28] Tm_T: No. Still testing precise. [16:30] yofel, should i care about this: [16:30] http://pastebin.com/VUHhgiPs [16:31] soee: ask in #ubuntu+1, seems like the virtualbox module failed to build for the new kernel [16:32] ok im rebooting now [16:32] br [16:36] yofel, upgrade successful [16:36] :D [16:37] Kubuntu 12.04, kde 4.8 => 4.8.1 [17:00] ScottK: any luck on that digikam build? [17:02] hmm i thought rekonq will be my default browser but qupzilla is a lot better (speed etc) [17:03] soee: for me rekoq is shit [17:03] xD [17:03] to be honest [17:03] heh use what you like :) [17:04] firefox :) [17:04] tried qupzilla ? [17:04] yes [17:04] firefox is a memory monster :< [17:04] but it chash too [17:04] soee: your right [17:04] im working with TYPO3 cms [17:04] and after some time i have to restsrt browser [17:05] to memoery used / slow javascript parsing etc [17:05] even! IE9 is a lot faster when it comes to javascript :D [17:05] not mentioned chrome [17:09] shadeslayer: Still going. Just getting started in fact. arm boxen are very slow. [17:13] ScottK: okay :) [17:14] I'll setup a arm virtual box on my server as well [17:14] maybe that'll go faster [17:14] cmake says 0% [17:14] But at least it got far enough to give a percentage. [17:15] :D [17:17] shadeslayer: Unable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)" <-- missing build-dep? [17:17] isn't that a warning? [17:17] It is. [17:18] Well, we have it in other packages as well, and I'm not sure we particularly care about it, I've discussed it before but don't remember the final outcome of the discussion [17:35] Riddell, ok , I'm back , I do need access details to ninjas [17:55] ScottK: QtWebit has new symbols on arm and armhf [17:56] Lovely. [17:56] Your build is still going, BTW. [17:56] can I just take the buildd log and update the symbols? [17:56] yay [17:56] [ 46%] Building CXX object core/utilities/cameragui/CMakeFiles/cameragui.dir/devices/dkcamera.cpp.o [17:56] shadeslayer: Yes. [17:56] cool, will do in a bit after writing up this report [17:56] shadeslayer: using the pkg-kde-tools stuff. [17:57] ofcourse [18:09] BluesKaj: msged [18:27] Riddell, ok , got it , thanks [18:29] awwww [18:29] ScottK: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/94610178/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.qtwebkit-source_2.2.1-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [18:29] /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted [18:29] :'( [18:33] shadeslayer: that was waiting for a new linux build on arm [18:34] which I think happened and didn't help [18:34] shadeslayer: ask infinity if he has ideas on how to progress [18:34] Riddell: needs moar RAM? [18:34] will do [18:34] I have updated symbols for armel tho [18:36] * micahg thinks webkit needs a diet [18:37] build it with clang! :P [18:37] clang binaries have been proven to be smaller [18:38] ScottK: Riddell could either of you test this on ARM : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/qtwebkit-source_2.2.1-1ubuntu3~ppa1.dsc ? [18:38] I'll talk to infinity [18:39] and by ARM I mean armel [18:41] shadeslayer: can't you just ssh into ScottK's machine? [18:41] uh, not a kubuntu-dev [18:41] It's still doing the digikam build anyway [18:41] yeah === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [19:02] * BluesKaj prays while kde 4.8.1 installs [19:05] 12,04 Precise , well now we'll see if it lives up to it's moniker [19:05] BluesKaj: added the ppa? [19:05] or what? [19:06] Peace-, yup [19:06] doing the package setups now [19:07] BluesKaj: mm :D nah i will not [19:15] ScottK: think we could backport Qt 4.8 to official Oneiric Backports? [19:15] No [19:15] Not unless you're going to validate all the rdepends. [19:16] Hmm, there *is* that one taskbar bug [19:17] fixing bugs is not the purpose of -backports [19:17] debfx: heh, no, what I meant was, there is a annoying regression that a user has reported [19:18] with Qt 4.8 [19:18] well, the taskbar bug isn't a regression from an archive point of view [19:18] neither from ours, we never had it fixed [19:19] and there's patches for 4.7 too I believe, so rather SRU those [19:20] right that bug is also present in 4.7 [19:20] * debfx vaguely remembers seeing a merge request that is supposed to fix that [19:30] ok Riddell , so far all is well on the kde 4.8.1 front :) [19:31] ScottK: did digikam build? I'm about to go to bed :) [19:32] BluesKaj: lovely, please say so on the wiki page in the testing section [19:32] aamof , 4.8.1 seems faster to load dirs on than before [19:32] ok Riddell. once I'm finished checking my fav apps etc [19:37] shadeslayer: Still building. [19:42] What package do I file bugs against for the telepathy stuff? [19:45] uh [19:45] ScottK: kde-telepathy-foo [19:45] kde-telepathy is the meta package [19:45] ScottK: everything of the gui I would fill at bugs.kde.org [19:46] shadeslayer: When I click on the bubbles in the notifications, it doesn't take me to the window. Which foo is that? [19:46] hmm .. sec [19:46] ScottK: should be kde-telepathy-approver [19:46] Thanks. [19:47] np [19:47] I'm off to sleep then, night [19:47] shadeslayer: good night [19:48] nini shadeslayer [19:50] yofel, bulldog98: I'm going to cebit until thursday, I guess 4.8.1 is going to come out during that? [19:51] Riddell: I guess that, too (and have fun at cebit) [19:52] yofel, bulldog98: can I do anything to make the release easier? [19:53] Riddell: hm I have no upload rights so uploading would be good I guess [19:53] bulldog98: it's due tomorrow [19:54] can yofel upload? [19:54] yes he can [19:54] so if he is able to do that tomorrow morning, great [19:54] if not I can prepare and sign them for you to upload [19:54] shadeslayer and Riddell: Bug #947430 for your Kopete/Telepathy comparison. [19:54] Launchpad bug 947430 in ktp-approver (Ubuntu) "Clicking on bubbles in KDE telepathy notifications doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947430 [19:55] bulldog98, yofel: any backports done? [19:55] they can probably just be thrown up into ninjas rather than compiling locally [19:55] Riddell: as far as I know none is done yet [20:00] Riddell: not yet, but I'll do that later (scripted) [20:01] and I'll do the releasing then, just need to find someone to upload the universe stuff [20:03] bulldog98: you working on the backports? [20:03] yofel: just started [20:04] yofel: great thanks [20:04] yofel: doing kde-l10n too? [20:04] yofel: do you have the script around somewhere? [20:04] bulldog98: http://paste.kde.org/434030 [20:05] Riddell: can do, I usually do that last though [20:07] yofel: yeah last is normal way I do it too [20:10] yofel: do you want to run that script or should I already start with it? [20:11] bulldog98: well, that needs to be run per-package, and either you do it and I continue after you or I do it alone - because I don't update the wiki [20:11] updating that takes longer than the backporting [20:11] yofel: then just do it :) [20:11] ack [20:23] apachelogger: ping [20:24] pogo [20:25] apachelogger: how about create an app, that will make an image of your entire HDD and save it to a single file. Then with this we could add an option to the installer that will allow to reinstall your OS from taht image? [20:25] this app could have a fancy UI [20:25] simple and easy to use === sheytan_ is now known as sheytan [20:26] * apachelogger still doesn't have boot splash sutff [20:26] nixternal: also still not answer regarding my question about boot splash stuff [20:26] also I am tired [20:26] * sheytan waits for visions. Can't create lots of stuff at once :) [20:27] sheytan: that image stuff, yes, but what for? [20:27] apachelogger: imagine you breake your OS during upgrade [20:27] how would you go about that? :P [20:28] also... where would you store that image? [20:28] external hdd, dvd [20:28] as it would have to contain /home/ it would be quite large [20:28] shadeslayer and Riddell: From my glance at the build logs (still going) it looks like digikam is using a bundled copy of kipi-plugins. [20:28] so dvd is pretty much a no-go [20:28] Cloud [20:28] this could be a backup like app [20:29] sheytan: oh well, report a bug somehwere or something [20:29] for what? [20:29] I do not see the immediate benefit to be very big as an upgrade should not be breaking an install and if it does it would be a bug that needs tending to [20:29] sheytan: ubiquity I suppose [20:29] (the installer thing) [20:30] also it is not entirely simple to do anyway with multiple partitions and what not [20:30] i didn't say it will happen, but as you might know it does. Especially for begginers [20:30] multi month project IMHO [20:30] it was just an idea :P [20:31] i'm now thinking about new features for the installer [20:31] sheytan: it still shouldn't and if it does because the beginners broke their system before the upgrade hence breaking the upgrade the restoration image would still be broken and could restoring from it could still break at any given point in time [20:31] (xorg-edgers PPA is good at causing trouble there....) [20:32] let just leave that topic. Do you have any idea about a feature for the installer? :D [20:32] sheytan: I am not saying the idea is bad, I am just not convinced it makes all that much sense [20:32] details can be discussed :) [20:32] it would if we needed a shitload of drivers post-installation like windows or something [20:32] i.e. something that hardware vendors like to do (store the factory image on a separate partiton) [20:33] sheytan: I do have a many great ideas, none of them being simple ;) [20:33] also the installer needs redoing code-wise [20:33] like what? :D [20:33] it is a big mess IMHO [20:33]