=== jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ === webjadmin_ is now known as JackyAlcine_ [01:04] If someone tells me to find my bridge ipaddress, where would I look for it? bridge is the same as gateway right? [01:04] philipballew: depends on what concept [01:04] im setting up a vpn [01:04] bridge as in network bridge? [01:05] philipballew: well yea your bridge is probably the gateway in that sense [01:05] im using this guide and in https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openvpn.html and I beleive it is the address of the bridge interface [01:06] my router is a 192.168.1.254 so that would thee the address maybe [01:08] isnt networking fun stlsaint [01:09] philipballew: considering i had to get N+ certified i have to make it fun lol [01:10] i had get certified for hardware once. there all a pain. If the router is a .254 though, I would probably rut that I guess? [01:12] you sure your router is a .254? [01:13] yeah, Its a att default router. Its my parents house. im gonna stash a server here when i am 600 miles away for school [01:13] stlsaint, [01:14] philipballew: ssh? [01:16] well ssh is currently set up. im setting up a vpn on it. [01:17] my school blocks all my favorite sites because they label them as hacker [01:17] so im am setting up a vpn [01:17] stlsaint, [01:19] and also, I need a good way to connect to my system besides ssh. [01:19] also, because I can [01:21] ssh is actually very versatile and robust. Able to handle much of what vpn can if not more and alot easier to manage and setup. [01:22] proxy, encryption, web, etc [01:24] yeah, what would I google for to look to set up a ssh tunnel to have from my desktop in my dorm to my server here to not have annoying website restrictions? stlsaint [01:29] I think its a reverse ssh tunnel [01:30] I have had that before. I might do that. I am wanting a challenge now and think a vpn might be a fun thing to have [01:31] philipballew: correct [01:31] I will read the openvpn config file tonight as well [01:33] i never setup openvpn so meh [01:35] yeah, me either. If i set up a reverse ssh tunnel I can just use browse the web as if i was on my home's network. Just like a vpn does? [01:36] philipballew: it has a lot of extra stuff (we were writing a scalable infrastructure) but the core of openvpn configuration is applicable: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Scalable_Public_Key_Infrastructure_for_both_OpenSWAN_and_OpenVPN [01:37] oh nice [01:37] heh, has my old name on it [01:37] lol [01:37] * pleia2 wonders if that can be changed [01:38] pleia2: i downplay openvpn in no way. I just have never used it and i know ssh has very low overhead and resource usage [01:38] stlsaint: I use ssh tunnels myself :) [01:38] and tinyproxy <3 [01:40] pleia2, thats what I am thinking of using. I just was wanting a challenge with vpn. but is tiny proxy secure and private? [01:40] philipballew: hah, no tinyproxy sucks, but it's easy [01:40] I get really annoyed when my schools sysadmins watch what I look at [01:40] lol [01:41] openvpn is a fun project to learn, but I'd use ssh for that [01:41] pleia2, just set up a reverse ssh tunnel probably? [01:41] philipballew: i suggest getting ssh setup for the stable connection and as you gain experience migrate your setup to openvpn if you still want [01:42] either way its a win :D [01:42] well ive been running ssh for a good year and a half since i set up the server [01:42] learning more ssh is always good :) [01:42] where would be a good place to learn this, or what would I google? [01:42] "ssh tunnel" [01:43] "tunnel web traffic over ssh" [01:43] * pleia2 shrugs [01:43] thank you pleia2 [01:43] philipballew: one sec i may have a good link on ssh (MAYBE lol) [01:43] its spring break so i have nothing better to do anyway [01:44] some people go partying on spring break, I work on my server [01:46] philipballew: this isnt ssh specific but it comes in pretty handy for server stuff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics [01:47] * philipballew loves reading!!! [01:48] http://askubuntu.com/questions/45075/how-do-i-route-my-internet-through-a-ssh-tunnel [01:49] :) [01:49] philipballew: once i get my servers setup we can see whos more secure ;) [01:49] lately ive been building old desktops up and turning them into server clusters. Its been a hobby of mine [01:49] well have a hack off!!! [01:49] philipballew: you use a framework...such as proxmox? [01:50] philipballew: if you have some time take a gander at proxmox [01:51] no. I installed ubuntu, set up ssh and thats it [01:51] i am getting it looking nice today I think [01:51] rsa and all [01:52] philipballew: fail2ban and denyhosts is your friend :D [01:53] philipballew: and you probably could use some nice iptables [01:53] what does fail2ban do? [01:53] I used iptables to ban twitter and facebook during finals week at school! [01:53] fail2ban sets iptables-based bans [01:54] when people start hammering your server [01:54] philipballew: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [01:54] thats right. I helped my friend set that up on his vps [01:54] (I use fail2ban on my servers where I have a kernel supporting iptables, denyhosts elsewhere) [01:54] philipballew: pretty funny to actually tail the logs of people attacking your server [01:54] good your already using keys...thats step one [01:55] my friend and i attack each others servers and we compeate to who can attack with the craziest user names [01:56] careful...make a mistake and people start reporting to ISP [01:56] lol. yeah. We have all the ip's and all set up. We know who each other is [01:56] we had a soldier playing around on a computer in south korea and he pinged a system in north korea....that turned bad lol [01:56] stlsaint: oh dear :) [01:56] pleia2: yea lol [01:57] north korea has internet? [01:57] philipballew: yes sir [01:58] that makes sense. Some countries America doesnt like I would assume they'd use icann and play with n.k. internet [01:58] I always prefer http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ [01:58] ha [01:59] philipballew: how ya iptables looking? i have some pretty strict ones passed down the server admin line starting from bodhi ;) [01:59] there default. [02:00] i changed my interface file once [02:00] i should look into asking him [02:02] philipballew: ha, asking bodhi for server stuff will cause a brain overload lol [02:03] I had him talk to my about ssh the first time I installed a server. I had to take a break and think about all he said [02:04] philipballew: yea and dont get him started on apache ;) if you ever need a webs at nginx [02:06] apache is kinda simple once you read up on it [02:07] it can get complicated, but it's very heavy for a basic site (for most people nginx is fine) [02:10] agreed. sometomes apache is more the standard so people like to learn that [02:14] just got a call to go go to frys with friends. Thanks for the help!!1 [03:20] how can i play minecraft on ubuntu 11.10 [03:26] ArizonaBay, good question. Lets look at this [03:27] what kinda minecraft are you wanting? [03:27] to have a minecraft server or just connect to something? [03:28] i want to play it in the browser [03:28] no server [03:28] just play the game and createe a world [03:28] lol [03:30] alright. sounds fun. lets see [03:31] ^ [03:32] so you have java installed maybe? [03:36] i have JDK 6 run java time [03:43] well you should be able to right click on your minecraft jar and run with open jdk [03:44] Do you have the minecraft jar? [03:44] az [03:44] ArizonaBay, === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine_ [04:11] philipballew it worked [04:11] nao === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine_ === webjadmin is now known as jalcine === Petskull is now known as Pets-Gone [10:23] Hello. [10:26] s-fox: how do you do? [10:26] I'm good thank you jalcine , how are you? [10:27] nearly the same, added some unit tests to a project of mine. [10:27] perhaps the most important thing for downstream packagers. [10:31] Right, as I've signed onto IRC on mobile, I'll be off the desktop now. === Dan__ is now known as Guest54339 [14:22] Anyone pliz explain to me how am supposed to install SIP in order to run pyqt4 [14:24] jemoh: what are you trying to do? [14:24] should be this easy http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/01/how-to-install-pyqt4-on-ubuntu-linux/ [14:28] Am trying to install SIP to my computer so that I can run pyqt4 [14:28] jemoh: SIP? like ekiga? i dont understand why you would need that... [14:28] what are you trying to do? [14:28] should be as easy as searching for pyqt in a package manager.. or following the instructions at that link [14:29] sudo apt-get install python-qt4 [14:29] jemoh: are you trying to install a sip client that requires python or something? [14:30] Ok this is what I want I want a pyqt4 toolkit [14:31] jemoh: cool.. just search for it in whatever package manager you use.. software center, synaptic.. and just install it.. or try that command in the terminal that i linked, and report errors :) [14:33] I cant find it in the software centre. What should I do [14:33] jemoh: i would try opening a terminal and run sudo apt-get install python-qt4 [14:34] OK lemmi do it [14:35] This is what the terminal displays after I run it : [14:35] Reading package lists... Done [14:35] Building dependency tree [14:35] Reading state information... Done [14:35] python-qt4 is already the newest version. [14:35] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [14:37] jemoh: right... you alread have it [14:37] already* [14:37] 09:35 < jemoh> python-qt4 is already the newest version. [14:37] ^^ means its alreayd installed, and up to date [14:37] already* [14:39] How come I see the start icon === tronyx_ is now known as tronyx [14:40] jemoh: its not really something you "click" on [14:40] if the SIP client you are tyring to use/install needs it, it'll use it === Guest54339 is now known as Valfyn [14:41] so how do I install the SIP Client ? [14:41] jemoh: you just let me know exactly what client you are trying to install, and i'll help you with it [14:41] you search in the package manger of your choice by name [14:42] open the software center, search "ekiga" or whatever [14:45] this is my case am a beginner in python and am looking for a suitable software to code my own graphical applications. What suitable software should I use ? [14:47] i would use whatever you are comfortable with [14:48] Any suggestions ? [14:48] python sounds like a great idea [14:48] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Programming/Python [14:49] i feel like maybe you are looking for a GUI development kit or whatever... [14:52] Yeah exactly. So pliz give me an example [14:54] http://radicalbreeze.com/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:55] there are others in the repos too.. but to code in python is more text based [14:55] typically [14:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE [14:57] So which do you think is the best GUI kit for python [14:57] jemoh: thats what im getting at.. text files [14:58] im not a coder, but i do know enough to suggest to you to maybe start with bash [14:58] if you want a GUI, then, just go with the one you know, and dont worry much about the language, since you waont be really 'seeing' it anyways [14:59] if you want to learn python, i say start with bash scripting, and just open a text editor and start learning [14:59] http://www.upriss.org.uk/python/PythonCourse.html [14:59] http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ [15:01] Av used IDLE shell before but I could not use to code graphical applications so I think illumination will work [15:10] Thnx alot you saved [15:34] I installed the mysql software from the ubuntu software center and now I cant start it because its asking me for a password, server hostname, username and default schema what should I do to start using it ???? [15:35] yup [15:35] its more complex than just installing it [15:35] What should I do then [15:35] what are you trying to do? [15:36] install a CMS? [15:36] What is CMS [15:36] like drupal, joomla... some C.ontent M.anagement S.ystem ? [15:36] Am trying to open mysql in order to create a database [15:37] Ok. [15:37] you should have been prompted during install for passwords [15:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html [15:38] though, when i built a drupal box from scratch on a powerpc machine, i just followed a guide that assisted with the database setup and all that [15:39] i think you'll do betting thinking "bigger picture" [15:39] "im trying to install and setup up drupal" for example... instaead of "mysql isnt running" [15:39] i would come here *first* before you get started with the task, and sound out some ideas [15:43] Ok lemmi try it out [15:59] Ok. should I first uninstall mysql then install it again ? [16:02] jemoh: again, i would go bigger.. what are you trying to do? why do you need a database? start with a tutorial for that larger project [16:03] look our teacher told us to install it so that he can teach us to create databases in sql [16:04] jemoh: cool... its installed, so i say you are good to go :) [16:05] your teacher will talk you through the user management and all that [16:06] He is teaching us with the windows platform and so am trying to install and use the one for linux [16:07] jemoh: cool ...i have no experience with in in windows, but it should be the same idea [16:09] Ok. Am trying to install a package called easy Gui but I seem not to get the installation process @ http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux pliz show me how its done [16:10] when going outside the default repos, you really need to go with the maintainers instructions [16:11] i typically search the repos, then i look for a PPA, then a .deb, then i consider downloading from elsewhere and building or whatever [16:11] there are instructions at that link though [16:11] In a console window, at the command prompt, enter the command: [16:11] python setup.py install [16:11] ^^ thats in a terminal [16:12] I did it and this is what I get :python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [16:13] jemoh: have you downloaded the file? and unzipped? and cd'd into that directory? [16:14] i sometimes just include the entire path ... ~/Downloads/whatever.py [16:14] I have downloaded and unpacked it. what is cd'd [16:17] you can cd to where it is [16:17] cd /home/you/whatever/you.R.looking4 [16:31] Hi! please help me!. I am using unbutu 11.10 *(dual boot with windows 7 - partition C windows, patition D ubuntu)and I want to see files that I have in D, personal files saved from windows, too see them in ubuntu. I have searched the google an found that I need to edit fstab file, but I dont know what to do exactly. When I type in terminal sudo nano /etc/fstab, it show me # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM [16:31] /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none swap sw 0 0. [16:34] adding it to fstab is one way... you can just mount and chown it.. if its something you just want to see once, you can use a live CD... you can mount and chown the directory, you can add to fstab [16:34] itres really up to you... [16:35] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [16:49] ok.. I am tryng to make the manual configuration from that link.. but when I enter sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, I get this in terminal sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [16:50] sorry.. I get this (gksudo:2588): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", [16:50] (gedit:2590): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.8ZYJAW': No such file or directory [16:50] yeah, thats just not right [16:51] TeodorM: fstab is a file... a text file [16:51] you can copy that for backup *however* you feel comfortable [16:51] right click somewhere and make a text file called fstab.backup or whatever [16:51] copy and paste the text in [16:51] then, you need root acess to edit the file.. so running [16:52] gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [16:52] ^^ that allows you to edit the file.. it comes up, and you edit as you please, and save it [16:52] you reboot, knowing how to recover that information you backedup using a live CD (in case the machine doesnt boot) [16:53] OR, you do one of the other options in that link that *doesnt* require editing fstab [16:53] i used to just click and mount mine, and right click on them for permissions for years [16:53] Yo holstein when I ran the cd.. command this is waht I get : python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [16:54] jemoh: correct, that means you have no file there [16:54] so, you can try using the *entire* path [16:54] /home/you/Downloads/whatever/setup.py [16:55] OR, go and find it in the GUI, in nautilus or whatever and just drag it over onto the terminal [16:55] the path with complete 'inside/quotes/probably' [16:55] jemoh: not sure what you are going for though.. you dont need a GUI for python [16:56] i would suggest doing those few tutorials i linked earlier [16:56] sorry.. I did not understand what to copy to this new document fstab.backup? [16:56] TeodorM: the text.. imagine your machine doesnt boot [16:57] you edit that file, and you break funtionality [16:57] you want to backup whatever it takes to restore that functionality [16:57] one way, is to copy *all* that text, and back it up [16:57] the other is to sudo cp the file [16:57] but you dont *have* to use the command line for that [16:59] ok... I will do that... earlier I google-it a little this problem... in this fstab file... I shoud be more that # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM [16:59] /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none swap sw 0 0 right? (this is all it is written in my file) [16:59] OK. I have cd,,d it an this is what I get : bash: /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py: Permission denied [16:59] TeodorM: the # is a comment [17:00] that is not read by the system [17:00] thats just for you... [17:00] TeodorM: whatever is in the file already should be left alone.. personally, i suggest to you to leave that file alone for a while til you are more comfortable [17:00] TeodorM: i would just click and mount the partition [17:01] then What to backup? pecose this is all that is written in the file [17:01] jemoh: cool... so you dont have permission.. you can use sudo as is suggested in that link http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux [17:01] TeodorM: not following you [17:02] i would backup that *entire* file [17:02] however you feel comfortable doing that [17:02] imagine the machine doesnt work.. it wont boot, and you need to restor that file *as-is* [17:04] I did it and this is what I get :jemoh@Hiuhu:~$ sudo python setup.py install [17:04] ok.. I was telling you that all the text from my file, is that comment, and I wanned to know if that is normal or it is allready a problem with my ubuntu [17:04] python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [17:05] jemoh: correct.. you need to both use the complete path, *and* the sudo command [17:06] sudo python /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py install [17:06] at least thats how i read it at http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux [17:09] I did it and this is what I get sudo: home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py: command not found [17:11] jemoh: what are the :'s ? [17:11] i dont personaly want to install that to test it out [17:11] but, you get the path correct, and it *should* work [17:12] not sure what you are trying to get, or why [17:12] i would just look for packages in the default repos to use [17:12] that *should* be in there [17:13] jemoh: open a terminal [17:13] ok [17:13] type sudo, then hit the space bar [17:13] go over and find that *exact* file, and drag it over into the terminal [17:13] k [17:13] see that the path completes [17:14] should look like... "sudo 'home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py' or something [17:14] yeah [17:14] OH [17:14] actually i see the issue... [17:14] ok get rid of that... do this.. [17:14] what is it [17:14] ok [17:15] sudo python home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py install [17:15] ^^assuming that path is correct [17:15] I have tried the automatic configuration, and when I tipe gksudo ntfs-config, same thing... (ntfs-config:2867): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", [17:16] TeodorM: thats just one option... i would just click on it.. mount it, and read what i need.. if i need write permissions, i deal with it [17:16] or troubleshoot the fstab [17:18] Av dan it and now it only displays an interpreter [17:18] right [17:18] ok.. I dont understand what you mean with "just click on it" click on what (sorry but I am new to linux) [17:19] TeodorM: the windows partition... in the filemanager [17:20] you can also just use something like dropbox to "sync" some key documents automatically between the OS's [17:20] Sorry but what does the python interpreter indicate ? [17:20] jemoh: im not a python guy.. sorry... the little python i have done i have literally just used a text editor for [17:21] i did those few tutorials i linked you, and that course.. and i just used nano, or gedit, or vi/vim [17:21] OK but thanx for your help rilly apprecuated [17:21] thats where i think you should start [17:22] well if I go to home folder > media> I see the HDD but in it, are files that I have in C partition of windows.. and I need files from D partition [17:22] TeodorM: you shouldnt see those labels anyways... C and D [17:22] you should see all partitions there.. if not, open a terminal and run [17:22] sudo fdisk -l [17:23] you'll see them there, and you can mount them, chown them, add them to fstab, whatever you like :) [17:24] ok.. I have /dev/sda1 * 63 92164904 46082421 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT [17:24] /dev/sda2 92164905 488375999 198105547+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) [17:24] /dev/sda5 92164968 488375999 198105516 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT [17:24] how I mount them? [17:25] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [17:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [17:26] or just find them in the file manger, and click on them [17:28] well I dont see them in file manager [18:56] I'm trying to create a bootable usb to install Ubuntu, but it's giving me a operating system not found error. [18:57] johnny77, I can help [18:57] johnny77, how did you make the usb ? [18:57] did you make it in windows osx or linux? [18:58] philipballew: windows with Universal-USB-Installer then I tried it with unetbootin [18:59] unetbootin is good. If only you were in sacramento id give you my usb install [18:59] what did you do with it? [18:59] like what steps did you do? [19:03] philipballew: I let Unetbootin create the bootable USB from the iso I downloaded from the Ubuntu website then rebooted my computer and get a missing operating system error as it boots. Then it just boots windows. [19:07] johnny77: i format those sticks *each* time [19:07] i point unet to the downloaded iso [19:07] johnny77, is there anything else on the usb ? [19:08] Nope. I formatted it before using. [19:09] i would format again... then use unet and point to a download iso that you have confirmed the checkome on [19:09] check sum* [19:09] how do I confirm the check sum [19:09] hobgoblin, +1 with the md5sum [19:09] !md5sum [19:09] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [19:10] is the machine capable of booting USB sticks? [19:10] has it *ever* booted a USB stick? [19:10] Yes, I've done it before on both machines. [19:10] do you have another machine to test that the USB will boot on? [19:10] these can be rhetorical ;) ... just troubleshooting tips === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [19:11] I'm trying on two different machines that have been booted from the USB before and it's giving me the same error. [19:11] bobweaver: I agree with the +1 - not sure why you pinged me though - been a long day here :) [19:11] Windows does show it as an install ubuntu USB in my computer. [19:11] did you use the wubi or regular iso? [19:11] cool... so its the stick.. you nave another stick to test with? [19:13] no, but I've used this stick to boot from before. Just had ChromeOS on it and booted from it. Formatted then started trying ubuntu. [19:13] I'm using the desktop iso. [19:14] johnny77, is there a tutorial that you followed that we could see ? [19:15] johnny77: you have confirmed the md5 of the iso? [19:16] i have not confirmed the md5 yet. [19:16] bobweaver: tutorial for installing Ubuntu on the USB? [19:16] johnny77: confirm the md5... that will make a bunk stick [19:17] the ubuntu download page has a guide, but its with pendrive [19:17] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [19:18] I tried pendrive, but it didn't work either. [19:19] johnny77: hows that sum? [19:19] Well, the md5 gave me a whole bunch of errors... That is weird since I downloaded it from ubuntu website. I'll try with unetbootin and get it to download it and go from there. [19:20] nah. download it *without* unet [19:20] then you can confirm before you make a stick [19:20] johnny77, the ubuntu website might not be the problem. [19:20] you probably had some sort of tcp error and lost some packets coming from the other side of the world when you downloaded the iso [19:20] yeah, if its your connection, then the one unet DL's will be bad, and you'll have another stick that dont work [19:21] I gotta run, I'll try the download again later.. [19:21] yup :) [19:21] johnny77: good luck! [19:21] thanks. [19:38] how can i make Qbittorrent as my default client ? [19:39] ArizonaBay, lets do that! [19:39] yes please :D [19:39] did you figure out minecraft yesterday? [19:39] how can i do that [19:39] yup [19:39] how is it working? [19:40] perfectly [19:40] are you in ubuntu or kubuntu? [19:40] :x i just got a command on how to open the jar file through java [19:40] no ubuntu 11.10 [19:40] thats what i was gonna suggest next :) [19:41] lol well thanks its really nice of u to want to help [19:41] how can i change the bit torrent client & [19:41] ? [19:41] also how do i i locate the bit torrent client i downloaded [19:42] II did the locate command in the terminal [19:42] but it just shows all the file [19:42] s [19:42] just download a ,torrent file and right click on it and choose properties > open with [19:42] you locate via clicking the ubuntu logo on the side bar and typing in wwhat you want [19:42] yeah but the program doesnt show [19:42] i have to locate the path [19:43] how did you download it? [19:43] ArizonaBay, [19:44] from a website [19:44] i can download it again [19:44] its a magnet file [19:44] check this out [19:45] with apps in ubuntu [19:45] ^ [19:45] ? [19:45] and linux in general you can just search for it with the software center or via say a app remove programs app [19:45] and download from there [19:46] u cant remove defaulta aps :/ [19:46] thats the new ubuntu for u [19:46] yeah you can? [19:46]