[01:04] <philipballew> If someone tells me to find my bridge ipaddress, where would I look for it? bridge is the same as gateway right?
[01:04] <stlsaint> philipballew: depends on what concept
[01:04] <philipballew> im setting up a vpn
[01:04] <stlsaint> bridge as in network bridge?
[01:05] <stlsaint> philipballew: well yea your bridge is probably the gateway in that sense
[01:05] <philipballew> im using this guide and in https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openvpn.html and I beleive it is the address of the bridge interface
[01:06] <philipballew> my router is a 192.168.1.254 so that would thee the address maybe
[01:08] <philipballew> isnt networking fun stlsaint
[01:09] <stlsaint> philipballew: considering i had to get N+ certified i have to make it fun lol
[01:10] <philipballew> i had get certified for hardware once. there all a pain. If the router is a .254 though, I would probably rut that I guess?
[01:12] <stlsaint> you sure your router is a .254?
[01:13] <philipballew> yeah, Its a att default router. Its my parents house. im gonna stash a server here when i am 600 miles away for school
[01:13] <philipballew> stlsaint,
[01:14] <stlsaint> philipballew: ssh?
[01:16] <philipballew> well ssh is currently set up. im setting up a vpn on it.
[01:17] <philipballew> my school blocks all my favorite sites because they label them as hacker
[01:17] <philipballew> so im am setting up a vpn
[01:17] <philipballew> stlsaint,
[01:19] <philipballew> and also, I need a good way to connect to my system besides ssh.
[01:19] <philipballew> also, because  I can
[01:21] <stlsaint> ssh is actually very versatile and robust. Able to handle much of what vpn can if not more and alot easier to manage and setup.
[01:22] <stlsaint> proxy, encryption, web, etc
[01:24] <philipballew> yeah, what would I google for to look to set up a ssh tunnel to have from my desktop in my dorm to my server here to not have annoying website restrictions? stlsaint
[01:29] <philipballew> I think its a reverse ssh tunnel
[01:30] <philipballew> I have had that before. I might do that. I am wanting a challenge now and think a vpn might be a fun thing to have
[01:31] <stlsaint> philipballew: correct
[01:31] <philipballew> I will read the openvpn config file tonight as well
[01:33] <stlsaint> i never setup openvpn so meh
[01:35] <philipballew> yeah, me either. If i set up a reverse ssh tunnel I can just use browse the web as if i was on my home's network. Just like a vpn does?
[01:36] <pleia2> philipballew: it has a lot of extra stuff (we were writing a scalable infrastructure) but the core of openvpn configuration is applicable: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Scalable_Public_Key_Infrastructure_for_both_OpenSWAN_and_OpenVPN
[01:37] <stlsaint> oh nice
[01:37] <pleia2> heh, has my old name on it
[01:37] <stlsaint> lol
[01:37]  * pleia2 wonders if that can be changed
[01:38] <stlsaint> pleia2: i downplay openvpn in no way. I just have never used it and i know ssh has very low overhead and resource usage
[01:38] <pleia2> stlsaint: I use ssh tunnels myself :)
[01:38] <pleia2> and tinyproxy <3
[01:40] <philipballew> pleia2, thats what I am thinking of using. I just was wanting a challenge with vpn. but is tiny proxy secure and private?
[01:40] <pleia2> philipballew: hah, no tinyproxy sucks, but it's easy
[01:40] <philipballew> I get really annoyed when my schools sysadmins watch what I look at
[01:40] <stlsaint> lol
[01:41] <pleia2> openvpn is a fun project to learn, but I'd use ssh for that
[01:41] <philipballew> pleia2, just set up a reverse ssh tunnel probably?
[01:41] <stlsaint> philipballew: i suggest getting ssh setup for the stable connection and as you gain experience migrate your setup to openvpn if you still want
[01:42] <stlsaint> either way its a win :D
[01:42] <philipballew> well ive been running ssh for a good year and a half since i set up the server
[01:42] <pleia2> learning more ssh is always good :)
[01:42] <philipballew> where would be a good place to learn this, or what would I google?
[01:42] <pleia2> "ssh tunnel"
[01:43] <pleia2> "tunnel web traffic over ssh"
[01:43]  * pleia2 shrugs
[01:43] <philipballew> thank you pleia2
[01:43] <stlsaint> philipballew: one sec i may have a good link on ssh (MAYBE lol)
[01:43] <philipballew> its spring break so i have nothing better to do anyway
[01:44] <philipballew> some people go partying on spring break, I work on my server
[01:46] <stlsaint> philipballew: this isnt ssh specific but it comes in pretty handy for server stuff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics
[01:47]  * philipballew loves reading!!!
[01:48] <philipballew> http://askubuntu.com/questions/45075/how-do-i-route-my-internet-through-a-ssh-tunnel
[01:49] <pleia2> :)
[01:49] <stlsaint> philipballew: once i get my servers setup we can see whos more secure ;)
[01:49] <philipballew> lately ive been building old desktops up and turning them into server clusters. Its been a hobby of mine
[01:49] <philipballew> well have a hack off!!!
[01:49] <stlsaint> philipballew: you use a framework...such as proxmox?
[01:50] <stlsaint> philipballew: if you have some time take a gander at proxmox
[01:51] <philipballew> no. I installed ubuntu, set up ssh and thats it
[01:51] <philipballew> i am getting it looking nice today I think
[01:51] <philipballew> rsa and all
[01:52] <stlsaint> philipballew: fail2ban and denyhosts is your friend :D
[01:53] <stlsaint> philipballew: and you probably could use some nice iptables
[01:53] <philipballew> what does fail2ban do?
[01:53] <philipballew> I used iptables to ban twitter and facebook during finals week at school!
[01:53] <pleia2> fail2ban sets iptables-based bans
[01:54] <pleia2> when people start hammering your server
[01:54] <stlsaint> philipballew: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:54] <philipballew> thats right. I helped my friend set that up on his vps
[01:54] <pleia2> (I use fail2ban on my servers where I have a kernel supporting iptables, denyhosts elsewhere)
[01:54] <stlsaint> philipballew: pretty funny to actually tail the logs of people attacking your server
[01:54] <stlsaint> good your already using keys...thats step one
[01:55] <philipballew> my friend and i attack each others servers and we compeate to who can attack with the craziest user names
[01:56] <stlsaint> careful...make a mistake and people start reporting to ISP
[01:56] <philipballew> lol. yeah. We have all the ip's and all set up. We know who each other is
[01:56] <stlsaint> we had a soldier playing around on a computer in south korea and he pinged a system in north korea....that turned bad lol
[01:56] <pleia2> stlsaint: oh dear :)
[01:56] <stlsaint> pleia2: yea lol
[01:57] <philipballew> north korea has internet?
[01:57] <stlsaint> philipballew: yes sir
[01:58] <philipballew> that makes sense. Some countries America doesnt like I would assume they'd use icann and play with n.k. internet
[01:58] <philipballew> I always prefer http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/
[01:58] <stlsaint> ha
[01:59] <stlsaint> philipballew: how ya iptables looking? i have some pretty strict ones passed down the server admin line starting from bodhi ;)
[01:59] <philipballew> there default.
[02:00] <philipballew> i changed my interface file once
[02:00] <philipballew> i should look into asking him
[02:02] <stlsaint> philipballew: ha, asking bodhi for server stuff will cause a brain overload lol
[02:03] <philipballew> I had him talk to my about ssh the first time I installed a server. I had to take a break and think about all he said
[02:04] <stlsaint> philipballew: yea and dont get him started on apache ;) if you ever need a webs at nginx
[02:06] <philipballew> apache is kinda simple once you read up on it
[02:07] <pleia2> it can get complicated, but it's very heavy for a basic site (for most people nginx is fine)
[02:10] <philipballew> agreed. sometomes apache is more the standard so people like to learn that
[02:14] <philipballew> just got a call to go go to frys with friends. Thanks for the help!!1
[03:20] <ArizonaBay> how can i play minecraft on ubuntu 11.10
[03:26] <philipballew> ArizonaBay, good question. Lets look at this
[03:27] <philipballew> what kinda minecraft are you wanting?
[03:27] <philipballew> to have a minecraft server or just connect to something?
[03:28] <ArizonaBay> i want to play it in the browser
[03:28] <ArizonaBay> no server
[03:28] <ArizonaBay> just play the game and createe a world
[03:28] <ArizonaBay> lol
[03:30] <philipballew> alright. sounds fun. lets see
[03:31] <ArizonaBay> ^
[03:32] <philipballew> so you have java installed maybe?
[03:36] <ArizonaBay> i have JDK 6 run java time
[03:43] <philipballew> well you should be able to right click on your minecraft jar and run with open jdk
[03:44] <philipballew> Do you have the minecraft jar?
[03:44] <philipballew> az
[03:44] <philipballew> ArizonaBay,
[04:11] <ArizonaBay> philipballew it worked
[04:11] <ArizonaBay> nao
[10:23] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:26] <jalcine> s-fox: how do you do?
[10:26] <s-fox> I'm good thank you jalcine , how are you?
[10:27] <jalcine> nearly the same, added some unit tests to a project of mine.
[10:27] <jalcine> perhaps the most important thing for downstream packagers.
[10:31] <jalcine> Right, as I've signed onto IRC on mobile, I'll be off the desktop now.
[14:22] <jemoh> Anyone pliz explain to me how am supposed to install SIP in order to run pyqt4
[14:24] <holstein> jemoh: what are you trying to do?
[14:24] <holstein> should be this easy http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/01/how-to-install-pyqt4-on-ubuntu-linux/
[14:28] <jemoh> Am trying to install SIP to my computer so that I can run pyqt4
[14:28] <holstein> jemoh: SIP? like ekiga? i dont understand why you would need that...
[14:28] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[14:28] <holstein> should be as easy as searching for pyqt in a package manager.. or following the instructions at that link
[14:29] <holstein> sudo apt-get install python-qt4
[14:29] <holstein> jemoh: are you trying to install a sip client that requires python or something?
[14:30] <jemoh> Ok this is what I want I want a pyqt4 toolkit
[14:31] <holstein> jemoh: cool.. just search for it in whatever package manager you use.. software center, synaptic.. and just install it.. or try that command in the terminal that i linked, and report errors :)
[14:33] <jemoh> I cant find it in the software centre. What should I do
[14:33] <holstein> jemoh: i would try opening a terminal and run sudo apt-get install python-qt4
[14:34] <jemoh> OK lemmi do it
[14:35] <jemoh> This is what the terminal displays after I run it :
[14:35] <jemoh> Reading package lists... Done
[14:35] <jemoh> Building dependency tree
[14:35] <jemoh> Reading state information... Done
[14:35] <jemoh> python-qt4 is already the newest version.
[14:35] <jemoh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:37] <holstein> jemoh: right... you alread have it
[14:37] <holstein> already*
[14:37] <holstein> 09:35 < jemoh> python-qt4 is already the newest version.
[14:37] <holstein> ^^ means its alreayd installed, and up to date
[14:37] <holstein> already*
[14:39] <jemoh> How come I see the start icon
[14:40] <holstein> jemoh: its not really something you "click" on
[14:40] <holstein> if the SIP client you are tyring to use/install needs it, it'll use it
[14:41] <jemoh> so how do I install the SIP Client ?
[14:41] <holstein> jemoh: you just let me know exactly what client you are trying to install, and i'll help you with it
[14:41] <holstein> you search in the package manger of your choice by name
[14:42] <holstein> open the software center, search "ekiga" or whatever
[14:45] <jemoh> this is my case am a beginner in python and am looking for a suitable software to code my own graphical applications. What suitable software should I use ?
[14:47] <holstein> i would use whatever you are comfortable with
[14:48] <jemoh> Any suggestions ?
[14:48] <holstein> python sounds like a great idea
[14:48] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Programming/Python
[14:49] <holstein> i feel like maybe you are looking for a GUI development kit or whatever...
[14:52] <jemoh> Yeah exactly. So pliz give me an example
[14:54] <holstein> http://radicalbreeze.com/
[14:55] <holstein> there are others in the repos too.. but to code in python is more text based
[14:55] <holstein> typically
[14:57] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[14:57] <jemoh> So which do you think is the best GUI kit for python
[14:57] <holstein> jemoh: thats what im getting at.. text files
[14:58] <holstein> im not a coder, but i do know enough to suggest to you to maybe start with bash
[14:58] <holstein> if you want a GUI, then, just go with the one you know, and dont worry much about the language, since you waont be really 'seeing' it anyways
[14:59] <holstein> if you want to learn python, i say start with bash scripting, and just open a text editor and start learning
[14:59] <holstein> http://www.upriss.org.uk/python/PythonCourse.html
[14:59] <holstein> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
[15:01] <jemoh> Av used IDLE shell before but I could not use to code graphical applications so I think illumination will work
[15:10] <jemoh> Thnx alot you saved <holstein>
[15:34] <jemoh> I installed the mysql software from the ubuntu software center and now I cant start it because its asking me for a password, server hostname, username and default schema what should I do to start using it ????
[15:35] <holstein> yup
[15:35] <holstein> its more complex than just installing it
[15:35] <jemoh> What should I do then
[15:35] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[15:36] <holstein> install a CMS?
[15:36] <jemoh> What is CMS
[15:36] <holstein> like drupal, joomla... some C.ontent M.anagement S.ystem ?
[15:36] <jemoh> Am trying to open mysql in order to create a database
[15:37] <jemoh> Ok.
[15:37] <holstein> you should have been prompted during install for passwords
[15:37] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[15:38] <holstein> though, when i built a drupal box from scratch on a powerpc machine, i just followed a guide that assisted with the database setup and all that
[15:39] <holstein> i think you'll do betting thinking "bigger picture"
[15:39] <holstein> "im trying to install and setup up drupal" for example... instaead of "mysql isnt running"
[15:39] <holstein> i would come here *first* before you get started with the task, and sound out some ideas
[15:43] <jemoh> Ok lemmi try it out
[15:59] <jemoh> Ok. should I first uninstall mysql then install it again ?
[16:02] <holstein> jemoh: again, i would go bigger.. what are you trying to do? why do you need a database? start with a tutorial for that larger project
[16:03] <jemoh> look our teacher told us to install it so that he can teach us to create databases in sql
[16:04] <holstein> jemoh: cool... its installed, so i say you are good to go :)
[16:05] <holstein> your teacher will talk you through the user management and all that
[16:06] <jemoh> He is teaching us with the windows platform and so am trying to install and use the one for linux
[16:07] <holstein> jemoh: cool ...i have no experience with in in windows, but it should be the same idea
[16:09] <jemoh> Ok. Am trying to install a package called easy Gui but I seem not to get the installation process @ http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux pliz show me how its done
[16:10] <holstein> when going outside the default repos, you really need to go with the maintainers instructions
[16:11] <holstein> i typically search the repos, then i look for a PPA, then a .deb, then i consider downloading from elsewhere and building or whatever
[16:11] <holstein> there are instructions at that link though
[16:11] <holstein> In a console window, at the command prompt, enter the command:
[16:11] <holstein> python  setup.py  install
[16:11] <holstein> ^^ thats in a terminal
[16:12] <jemoh> I did it and this is what I get :python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[16:13] <holstein> jemoh: have you downloaded the file? and unzipped? and cd'd into that directory?
[16:14] <holstein> i sometimes just include the entire path ... ~/Downloads/whatever.py
[16:14] <jemoh> I have downloaded and unpacked it. what is cd'd
[16:17] <holstein> you can cd to where it is
[16:17] <holstein> cd /home/you/whatever/you.R.looking4
[16:31] <TeodorM> Hi! please help me!. I am using unbutu 11.10 *(dual boot with windows 7 - partition C windows, patition D ubuntu)and I want to see files that I have in D, personal files saved from windows, too see them in ubuntu. I have searched the google an found that I need to edit fstab file, but I dont know what to do exactly. When I type in terminal sudo nano /etc/fstab,  it show me  # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[16:31] <TeodorM> /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk    none    swap    sw      0       0.
[16:34] <holstein> adding it to fstab is one way... you can just mount and chown it.. if its something you just want to see once, you can use a live CD... you can mount and chown the directory, you can add to fstab
[16:34] <holstein> itres really up to you...
[16:35] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:49] <TeodorM> ok.. I am tryng to make the manual configuration from that link.. but when I enter sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, I get this in terminal sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[16:50] <TeodorM> sorry.. I get this (gksudo:2588): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[16:50] <TeodorM> (gedit:2590): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.8ZYJAW': No such file or directory
[16:50] <holstein> yeah, thats just not right
[16:51] <holstein> TeodorM: fstab is a file... a text file
[16:51] <holstein> you can copy that for backup *however* you feel comfortable
[16:51] <holstein> right click somewhere and make a text file called fstab.backup or whatever
[16:51] <holstein> copy and paste the text in
[16:51] <holstein> then, you need root acess to edit the file.. so running
[16:52] <holstein> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[16:52] <holstein> ^^ that allows you to edit the file.. it comes up, and you edit as you please, and save it
[16:52] <holstein> you reboot, knowing how to recover that information you backedup using a live CD (in case the machine doesnt boot)
[16:53] <holstein> OR, you do one of the other options in that link that *doesnt* require editing fstab
[16:53] <holstein> i used to just click and mount mine, and right click on them for permissions for years
[16:53] <jemoh> Yo holstein when I ran the cd.. command this is waht I get : python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[16:54] <holstein> jemoh: correct, that means you have no file there
[16:54] <holstein> so, you can try using the *entire* path
[16:54] <holstein>  /home/you/Downloads/whatever/setup.py
[16:55] <holstein> OR, go and find it in the GUI, in nautilus or whatever and just drag it over onto the terminal
[16:55] <holstein> the path with complete 'inside/quotes/probably'
[16:55] <holstein> jemoh: not sure what you are going for though.. you dont need a GUI for python
[16:56] <holstein> i would suggest doing those few tutorials i linked earlier
[16:56] <TeodorM> sorry.. I did not understand what to copy to this new document fstab.backup?
[16:56] <holstein> TeodorM: the text.. imagine your machine doesnt boot
[16:57] <holstein> you edit that file, and you break funtionality
[16:57] <holstein> you want to backup whatever it takes to restore that functionality
[16:57] <holstein> one way, is to copy *all* that text, and back it up
[16:57] <holstein> the other is to sudo cp the file
[16:57] <holstein> but you dont *have* to use the command line for that
[16:59] <TeodorM> ok... I will do that... earlier I google-it a little this problem... in this fstab file... I shoud be more that # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[16:59] <TeodorM> /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk	none	swap	sw	0	0 right? (this is all it is written in my file)
[16:59] <jemoh> OK. I have cd,,d it an this is what I get : bash: /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py: Permission denied
[16:59] <holstein> TeodorM: the # is a comment
[17:00] <holstein> that is not read by the system
[17:00] <holstein> thats just for you...
[17:00] <holstein> TeodorM: whatever is in the file already should be left alone.. personally, i suggest to you to leave that file alone for a while til you are more comfortable
[17:00] <holstein> TeodorM: i would just click and mount the partition
[17:01] <TeodorM> then What to backup? pecose this is all that is written in the file
[17:01] <holstein> jemoh: cool... so you dont have permission.. you can use sudo as is suggested in that link http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux
[17:01] <holstein> TeodorM: not following you
[17:02] <holstein> i would backup that *entire* file
[17:02] <holstein> however you feel comfortable doing that
[17:02] <holstein> imagine the machine doesnt work.. it wont boot, and you need to restor that file *as-is*
[17:04] <jemoh> I did it and this is what I get :jemoh@Hiuhu:~$ sudo python  setup.py  install
[17:04] <TeodorM> ok.. I was telling you that all the text from my file, is that comment, and I wanned to know if that is normal or it is allready a problem with my ubuntu
[17:04] <jemoh> python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[17:05] <holstein> jemoh: correct.. you need to both use the complete path, *and* the sudo command
[17:06] <holstein> sudo python /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py install
[17:06] <holstein> at least thats how i read it at http://easygui.sourceforge.net/download/version_0.96/index.html#installingEasyguiOnLinux
[17:09] <jemoh> I did it and this is what I get sudo: home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py: command not found
[17:11] <holstein> jemoh: what are the :'s ?
[17:11] <holstein> i dont personaly want to install that to test it out
[17:11] <holstein> but, you get the path correct, and it *should* work
[17:12] <holstein> not sure what you are trying to get, or why
[17:12] <holstein> i would just look for packages in the default repos to use
[17:12] <holstein> that *should* be in there
[17:13] <holstein> jemoh: open a terminal
[17:13] <jemoh> ok
[17:13] <holstein> type sudo, then hit the space bar
[17:13] <holstein> go over and find that *exact* file, and drag it over into the terminal
[17:13] <jemoh> k
[17:13] <holstein> see that the path completes
[17:14] <holstein> should look like... "sudo 'home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py' or something
[17:14] <jemoh> yeah
[17:14] <holstein> OH
[17:14] <holstein> actually i see the issue...
[17:14] <holstein> ok get rid of that... do this..
[17:14] <jemoh> what is it
[17:14] <jemoh> ok
[17:15] <holstein> sudo python home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py install
[17:15] <holstein> ^^assuming that path is correct
[17:15] <TeodorM> I have tried the automatic configuration, and when I tipe gksudo ntfs-config, same thing... (ntfs-config:2867): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[17:16] <holstein> TeodorM: thats just one option... i would just click on it.. mount it, and read what i need.. if i need write permissions, i deal with it
[17:16] <holstein> or troubleshoot the fstab
[17:18] <jemoh> Av dan it and now it only displays an interpreter
[17:18] <holstein> right
[17:18] <TeodorM> ok.. I dont understand what you mean with "just click on it" click on what (sorry but I am new to linux)
[17:19] <holstein> TeodorM: the windows partition... in the filemanager
[17:20] <holstein> you can also just use something like dropbox to "sync" some key documents automatically between the OS's
[17:20] <jemoh> Sorry but what does the python interpreter indicate ?
[17:20] <holstein> jemoh: im not a python guy.. sorry... the little python i have done i have literally just used a text editor for
[17:21] <holstein> i did those few tutorials i linked you, and that course.. and i just used nano, or gedit, or vi/vim
[17:21] <jemoh> OK but thanx for your help rilly apprecuated
[17:21] <holstein> thats where i think you should start
[17:22] <TeodorM> well if I go to home folder > media> I see the HDD but in it, are files that I have in C partition of windows.. and I need files from D partition
[17:22] <holstein> TeodorM: you shouldnt see those labels anyways... C and D
[17:22] <holstein> you should see all partitions there.. if not, open a terminal and run
[17:22] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[17:23] <holstein> you'll see them there, and you can mount them, chown them, add them to fstab, whatever you like :)
[17:24] <TeodorM> ok.. I have /dev/sda1   *          63    92164904    46082421    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[17:24] <TeodorM> /dev/sda2        92164905   488375999   198105547+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[17:24] <TeodorM> /dev/sda5        92164968   488375999   198105516    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[17:24] <TeodorM> how I mount them?
[17:25] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[17:25] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[17:26] <holstein> or just find them in the file manger, and click on them
[17:28] <TeodorM> well I dont see them in file manager
[18:56] <johnny77> I'm trying to create a bootable usb to install Ubuntu, but it's giving me a operating system not found error.
[18:57] <philipballew> johnny77, I can help
[18:57] <bobweaver> johnny77, how did you make the usb ?
[18:57] <philipballew> did you make it in windows osx or linux?
[18:58] <johnny77> philipballew: windows with Universal-USB-Installer then I tried it with unetbootin
[18:59] <philipballew> unetbootin is good. If only you were in sacramento id give you my usb install
[18:59] <philipballew> what did you do with it?
[18:59] <philipballew> like what steps did you do?
[19:03] <johnny77> philipballew: I let Unetbootin create the bootable USB from the iso I downloaded from the Ubuntu website then rebooted my computer and get a missing operating system error as it boots. Then it just boots windows.
[19:07] <holstein> johnny77: i format those sticks *each* time
[19:07] <holstein> i point unet to the downloaded iso
[19:07] <bobweaver> johnny77,  is there anything else on the usb ?
[19:08] <johnny77> Nope. I formatted it before using.
[19:09] <holstein> i would format again... then use unet and point to a download iso that you have confirmed the checkome on
[19:09] <holstein> check sum*
[19:09] <johnny77> how do I confirm the check sum
[19:09] <bobweaver> hobgoblin,   +1 with the md5sum
[19:09] <bobweaver> !md5sum
[19:09] <ubot2`> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:10] <holstein> is the machine capable of booting USB sticks?
[19:10] <holstein> has it *ever* booted a USB stick?
[19:10] <johnny77> Yes, I've done it before on both machines.
[19:10] <holstein> do you have another machine to test that the USB will boot on?
[19:10] <holstein> these can be rhetorical ;) ... just troubleshooting tips
[19:11] <johnny77> I'm trying on two different machines that have been booted from the USB before and it's giving me the same error.
[19:11] <hobgoblin> bobweaver: I agree with the +1 - not sure why you pinged me though - been a long day here :)
[19:11] <johnny77> Windows does show it as an install ubuntu USB in my computer.
[19:11] <philipballew> did you use the wubi or regular iso?
[19:11] <holstein> cool... so its the stick.. you nave another stick to test with?
[19:13] <johnny77> no, but I've used this stick to boot from before. Just had ChromeOS on it and booted from it. Formatted then started trying ubuntu.
[19:13] <johnny77> I'm using the desktop iso.
[19:14] <bobweaver> johnny77, is there a tutorial that you followed that we could see ?
[19:15] <holstein> johnny77: you have confirmed the md5 of the iso?
[19:16] <johnny77> i have not confirmed the md5 yet.
[19:16] <johnny77> bobweaver: tutorial for installing Ubuntu on the USB?
[19:16] <holstein> johnny77: confirm the md5... that will make a bunk stick
[19:17] <philipballew> the ubuntu download page has a guide, but its with pendrive
[19:17] <philipballew> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[19:18] <johnny77> I tried pendrive, but it didn't work either.
[19:19] <holstein> johnny77: hows that sum?
[19:19] <johnny77> Well, the md5 gave me a whole bunch of errors... That is weird since I downloaded it from ubuntu website. I'll try with unetbootin and get it to download it and go from there.
[19:20] <holstein> nah. download it *without* unet
[19:20] <holstein> then you can confirm before you make a stick
[19:20] <philipballew> johnny77, the ubuntu website might not be the problem.
[19:20] <philipballew> you probably had some sort of tcp error and lost some packets coming from the other side of the world when you downloaded the iso
[19:20] <holstein> yeah, if its your connection, then the one unet DL's will be bad, and you'll have another stick that dont work
[19:21] <johnny77> I gotta run, I'll try the download again later..
[19:21] <holstein> yup :)
[19:21] <holstein> johnny77: good luck!
[19:21] <johnny77> thanks.
[19:38] <ArizonaBay> how can i make Qbittorrent as my default client ?
[19:39] <philipballew> ArizonaBay, lets do that!
[19:39] <ArizonaBay> yes please :D
[19:39] <philipballew> did you figure out minecraft yesterday?
[19:39] <ArizonaBay> how can i do that
[19:39] <ArizonaBay> yup
[19:39] <philipballew> how is it working?
[19:40] <ArizonaBay> perfectly
[19:40] <philipballew> are you in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:40] <ArizonaBay> :x i just got a command on how to open the jar file through java
[19:40] <ArizonaBay> no ubuntu 11.10
[19:40] <philipballew> thats what i was gonna suggest next :)
[19:41] <ArizonaBay> lol well thanks its really nice of u to want to help
[19:41] <ArizonaBay> how can i change the bit torrent client &
[19:41] <ArizonaBay> ?
[19:41] <ArizonaBay> also how do i i locate the bit torrent client i downloaded
[19:42] <ArizonaBay> II did the locate command in the terminal
[19:42] <ArizonaBay> but it just shows all the file
[19:42] <ArizonaBay> s
[19:42] <philipballew> just download a ,torrent file and right click on it and choose properties > open with
[19:42] <philipballew> you locate via clicking the ubuntu logo on the side bar and typing in wwhat you want
[19:42] <ArizonaBay> yeah but the program doesnt show
[19:42] <ArizonaBay> i have to locate the path
[19:43] <philipballew> how did you download it?
[19:43] <philipballew> ArizonaBay,
[19:44] <ArizonaBay> from a website
[19:44] <ArizonaBay> i can download it again
[19:44] <ArizonaBay> its a magnet file
[19:44] <philipballew> check this out
[19:45] <philipballew> with apps in ubuntu
[19:45] <ArizonaBay> ^
[19:45] <ArizonaBay> ?
[19:45] <philipballew> and linux in general you can just search for it with the software center or via say a app remove programs app
[19:45] <philipballew> and download from there
[19:46] <ArizonaBay> u cant remove defaulta aps :/
[19:46] <ArizonaBay> thats the new ubuntu for u
[19:46] <philipballew> yeah you can?
[19:46] <ArizonaBay> there are a lot of awful glitches
[19:46] <philipballew> who said that?
[19:46] <ArizonaBay> i tried it many times
[19:47] <philipballew> not true..
[19:47] <philipballew> alright, ill make this fun!
[19:47] <philipballew> open a terminal session
[19:48] <ArizonaBay> done
[19:48] <philipballew> sudo apt-get install qbittorent
[19:49] <philipballew> i think thats how its spelled/
[19:49] <ArizonaBay> its installed already
[19:49] <ArizonaBay> yes
[19:49] <philipballew> and you instelled it via apt-get or the software center, or did you compile it?
[19:49] <philipballew> !compile
[19:49] <ubot2`> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall
[19:50] <philipballew> !checkinstall
[19:50] <ubot2`> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[19:51] <ArizonaBay> via software center
[19:51] <ArizonaBay> also
[19:51] <ArizonaBay> in mozilla i checked on REMEMBER MY CHOICE FOR FILES LIKE THIS... i picked the wrong application and now it wont even download
[19:52] <philipballew> so find a maggent link or whatever kinda file your trying to open and right click > properties > open with. Pick whatever you want. If you dont see it there let me know. also feel free to send a spreen shot of what your doing
[19:54] <philipballew> I can emplain the software for default apps and even explain how to do it from bash, but this is the easiest way
[19:56] <philipballew> ArizonaBay,
[19:56] <ArizonaBay> wait
[19:56]  * philipballew waits
[19:56] <ArizonaBay> i think i solved the issue temporarily through chrome
[19:57] <ArizonaBay> i still need to change the default app
[19:57] <ArizonaBay> and
[19:57] <ArizonaBay> im going to do what u just said
[19:57] <philipballew> alright. try it
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> its not working
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> i cant download a magnet file
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> i just cant
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> i dont know why
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> but im not able to download a magnet file
[20:00] <philipballew> maybe your network blocks the,
[20:00] <ArizonaBay> when i click it it opens the Transmission app
[20:00] <philipballew> them
[20:01] <ArizonaBay> and when i right click it there is none of the SAVE options
[20:01] <philipballew> so you did download it?
[20:01] <ArizonaBay> i found another torrent site without a legit torrent file and not a manget
[20:01] <philipballew> you dont like transmisson, just sudo apt-get purge transmission
[20:02] <philipballew> you still have everything set to transmission
[20:02] <ArizonaBay> :x
[20:02] <ArizonaBay> D:
[20:03] <philipballew> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4836/changing-default-bittorrent-program
[20:03] <ArizonaBay> what about magnet files ; __ ;
[20:03] <philipballew> ArizonaBay, can you do what i tell you to do here please
[20:03] <ArizonaBay> i did
[20:03] <ArizonaBay> i purger transmission
[20:03] <ArizonaBay> and i tried to right click on regular torrent files to set em up to Qbit torrent
[20:04] <ArizonaBay> i did all that
[20:04] <ArizonaBay> but the magnet file
[20:04] <ArizonaBay> that is tricky
[20:04] <ArizonaBay> i cant set it up
[20:04] <philipballew> check it out!
[20:04] <ArizonaBay> the link ?
[20:04] <philipballew> it now has torrent files set to open in qbittorrent but not magnet files. you need to have magnet files open in qtorrent
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> yeah i know :c
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> except i cant download Magnet files to set em up
[20:05] <philipballew> so why dont you do it?
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> Magnet files are hash files
[20:05] <philipballew> so?
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> i cant see em
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> lol
[20:05] <ArizonaBay> thats what ur not getting
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> there is a difference between regular torrent files and manget files
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> I did set up torrent files thanks to you :) and everything is good
[20:06] <philipballew> I know that dude!
[20:06] <philipballew> :)
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> but magnet files i cant click em
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> i cant download em
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> they wont open
[20:06] <ArizonaBay> and in google chrome they just open transmission
[20:07] <ArizonaBay> i should try it again since i purged transmission :x
[20:07] <philipballew> i thought you purged that?
[20:07] <ArizonaBay> yes i did
[20:07] <ArizonaBay> it just opens chrome
[20:07] <ArizonaBay> tranmsission*
[20:08] <ArizonaBay> here ill past the code
[20:08] <ArizonaBay> Reading package lists... Done
[20:08] <ArizonaBay> Building dependency tree
[20:08] <ArizonaBay> Reading state information... Done
[20:08] <ArizonaBay> Package transmission is not installed, so not removed
[20:09] <philipballew> so you dont have it installed
[20:09] <ArizonaBay> but its there
[20:09] <ArizonaBay> O_O
[20:09] <ArizonaBay> it open magnet files
[20:09] <ArizonaBay> lol
[20:09] <ArizonaBay> u want a screen shot ?
[20:10] <philipballew> sure. you can also try #qbittorrent if you need specific app help
[20:10] <ArizonaBay> ooooh thnaks
[20:10] <ArizonaBay> #qbittorrent
[20:10] <ArizonaBay> wait
[20:10] <ArizonaBay> ill show u a screen shot give me  a sec
[20:15] <ArizonaBay> u cant take a whole screen shot at ubuunt D:
[20:15] <ArizonaBay> omg
[20:15] <ArizonaBay> lol
[20:15] <ArizonaBay> also philipballew
[20:15] <philipballew> yeah you can?
[20:16] <ArizonaBay> I copy the link address of the magned file and pasted it in the qbittorrent now it workd :c
[20:16] <ArizonaBay> :X*******
[20:16] <ArizonaBay> also how do u take a whole sc reen shot ^
[20:16] <philipballew> press the screens shot buttion on your keybord
[20:19] <nlsthzn-work> print screen
[20:38] <ArizonaBay> philipballew
[20:38] <ArizonaBay> noooooooooooo he quit
[20:38] <ArizonaBay> :c
[20:38] <ArizonaBay> alright
[20:38] <ArizonaBay> does anyone know why downloading in ubuntu is 10 times slower then in windows ?
[20:39] <nlsthzn-work> What are you using to download?
[20:39] <ArizonaBay> qbittorrent and transmission both gave slow downloading
[20:39] <nlsthzn-work> And my downloads are solid under both, windows and ubuntu
[20:39] <ArizonaBay> but with qbittorrent its a bit faster
[20:40] <ArizonaBay> scratcg that. in both clients it takes me 20 minutes to download 1 episode
[20:40] <ArizonaBay> it takes me 5 minutes to do that on windows
[20:40] <ArizonaBay> someone explain this to me
[20:40] <ArizonaBay> and what can id o
[20:40] <nlsthzn-work> Not sure... I have not had issues with torrents... I nornally max out my connection easily...
[20:41] <ArizonaBay> :c
[20:41] <nlsthzn-work> sounds like the problem is higher up, with your network drivers etc...
[20:42] <ArizonaBay> you think :c
[20:42] <nlsthzn-work> might be...
[20:43] <nlsthzn-work> I can't think of any reasons torrents would be effected seperatly...
[20:45] <johnny77> Hello, I'm back. I can't seem to download Ubuntu correctly - md5sum is giving me all kinds of errors. I've downloaded it several times, direct download, bit torrent, desktop, alternate...
[20:47] <elfy> johnny77: shouldn't get an erro with a torrent download
[20:48] <johnny77> elfy: keyword: shouldn't.
[20:48] <nlsthzn-work> are you sure you are using the correct check-sum?
[20:49] <johnny77> I'm typing - md5sum -c filename.iso
[20:49] <elfy> assuming you are in the correct directory then I only ever md5sum name.iso
[20:49] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[20:50] <Unit193> -c, --check             read MD5 sums from the FILEs and check them    means you're reading the md5sum from filename.iso and that's not right.
[20:51] <johnny77> ok, I won't put that in there and I'll try it. But I got a link from here and that is how it said to do it... just letting you guys know.
[20:51]  * nlsthzn-work checks his files by burning them and trying to install... always shows a bad download by borking your PC
[21:02] <Unit193> That link says to: md5sum iso-image.iso   or   md5sum -c MD5SUMS
[21:15] <johnny77> ok, now I'm getting the right checksum, using md5sum filename.iso  But it is still giving me an missing OS error on boot.
[21:58] <nlsthzn-work> Is anyone else effected by this bug?!?!!? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112?comments=all
[21:58] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:02] <E3D3> StumpWM won't start although its installed. I made a .stumpwmrc-file by copying the example-config but get no error-message whatsoever. Can anyone help me ?