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pittiGood morning05:43
nigelbMorning pitti!07:36
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mvoif someone could check/accept the release-upgrader-apt to lucid-proposed I will make the auto-upgrade-tester run against that to check that #927993 is really fixed with it. there should be no regression potential as by default we use the release-upgrader-apt in lucid-updates10:02
infinitymvo: I sure wish apt's build system could make the diffs between source versions even MORE unreadable. ;)10:42
infinitymvo: Looks good, though.  Accepting.10:42
infinitymvo: FTBFS.  You broke translations.10:47
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* infinity fixes.10:51
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infinitymvo: Unless you're already fixing it, I'll fix your apt upload for you.11:00
mvoinfinity: I haven't fixed it yet, sorry, was at lunch, I can do it (its trivial) but will be equally happy if you do it :)12:03
mvoinfinity: I fixed it and re-uploaded, sorry for the trouble12:30
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infinitymvo: Accepted.12:49
mvota!12:49
mvoinfinity: yay! i386 build - now in binary NEW, I wasn't aware that proposed needs to go through both NEWs, I learn something new every day :)12:58
cjwatson-proposed isn't special regarding NEW13:01
infinityAlthough, it seems like a bug that -proposed doesn't check -updates for NEW status.13:09
infinity(I had to NEW the source too for the same reason, despite it already existing in updates)13:10
mvohm, so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/release-upgrader-apt/0.8.16~exp12ubuntu1~upgrader3/+build/3260800 tells me that there are a a bunch of binaries in -proposed that need NEW)13:10
infinityI assume it's only comparing to the release pocket.13:10
mvoaha, that makes sense13:10
infinitymvo: Yeah, they'll get processes when all the builds are done.13:10
infinityprocessed too.13:10
infinityErr, crap, and I realised I NEWed it to universe, not main.  Will fix when I accept the binaries.13:11
cjwatsonit's based on whatever LP considers the ancestry of the pocket to be13:16
cjwatsonI kind of maybe agree that -proposed ought to include -updates in its ancestry.  I think.13:16
infinityYou'd think.13:16
infinityIt gets this right WRT which pockets are represented in sources.list, you'd think those same inheritance rules would only exist in one place (though obviously not).13:17
infinityie: release < security < updates < proposed13:18
cjwatsonAnyone have an opinion on whether bug 920545 needs a freeze exception?13:21
ubot2`Launchpad bug 920545 in ntfs-3g "[update request] NTFS-3G, new STABLE Version 2012.1.15 [Precise]" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92054513:21
cjwatsonWe've tended to keep ntfs-3g pretty well up to date in the past.13:21
infinityI believe the argument in the past was always "ntfs drivers kinda suck, so any bugs fixed are a win".13:22
infinityI suspect that's still true.13:22
cjwatsonThere are some new features, but they mostly seem to be opt-in kind of things.13:22
infinityI see at least two fixes in there that fix real (visible to me) bugs.13:23
cjwatsonThe library has got itself multiarched, but AFAICT it's only really usable by the ntfs-3g package itself seeing as it's no longer a separate sonamed binary package.13:23
infinitySo, I'd wave it through on the "can't be worse than it is" basis.13:23
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cjwatsonSo I can't see how that would break anything.13:23
Davieycjwatson: TBH, your opinion carries this.. it's only you that ever touches it.. so i guess you understand the issues more than the rest of us :)13:24
cjwatsoninfinity: which, out of interest?13:24
infinity    ntfs-3g: fixed endless recursion when MFT extents are described by themselves13:24
infinity    ntfs-3g: fixed truncation of DOS file names (12 ntfschars, not 12 utf8 chars)13:24
infinityThose two.13:24
cjwatsonDaviey: with a clothes peg firmly on my nose, I should add13:24
Davieyheh13:24
infinityI've run into the former, and it's nasty.  And the latter is just cosmetically ugly.13:24
Davieyinfinity: You sound like quite an ntfs user :)13:25
infinityI used to run NT on several machines.  I'm reformed.13:25
Davieylikely story..13:27
infinityI wonder if anyone's working on a decent Linux driver for the new Win8 filesystem, or if we have to go through another ten years of reverse engineering pain.13:27
cjwatsonright, thanks all.  uploaded the merge.13:27
infinitymvo: Component fixed and binaries accepted to main, should publish in the :03 run.13:39
mvoawsome, thanks! I prepare the auto-upgrade-tester to use it instead of the -updates version13:41
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pittihuh, why did ntfsprogs suddenly go to universe..14:45
* pitti promotes it back to main14:45
cjwatsonprobably because ntfs-3g turned it into a transitional package14:46
pittiah, so udisks' recommends need updating14:52
davmor2cjwatson: do you happen to have a system you can try a d-i install on that has a wireless card in it?  if I go on wlan0 as my main network interface, I get q1. as If you would like to use any available network, leave this field blank,  I do,  It does a search finds nothing,  q2to skip wireless config and continue leave this field blank I do again and then it goes on to ask me what network I want to use wep/ope14:56
davmor2n or wpa which to me isn't skipping14:56
cjwatsondavmor2: not without losing my current working state14:57
cjwatsondo an install with DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer in the boot parameters and extract syslog14:57
cjwatsonmaking sure to go through that same UI flow14:57
davmor2cjwatson: I can on wednesday right now I need to get a system up and running for tomorrow I managed to kill my desktop magically14:58
stgraberdavmor2: I should be able to test this fairly easily, will try to do later this morning15:04
davmor2stgraber: ah cool if you can't give me a ping I can do it on wednesday as I say15:05
davmor2stgraber: effectivly you leave the wifi questions blank both times ps the network I have is a wpa, there are no open or wep ones near by15:06
infinitypitti: Surely, ntfsprogs wants to stay in main until post-LTS?15:21
nessitaScottK: hi there! just saw you question in bug #945061 and since we're in a rush to have this landed today (and release to Ubuntu tomorrow, so strings are available ASAP), I'm letting you know that yes, we wrote the doc and translators lists (links to the email archive in the bug description)15:34
ubot2`Launchpad bug 945061 in ubuntu-sso-client "[UIFe] Qt UI: the "Login" and "Forgotten Password" pages don't have titles and subtitles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94506115:34
ScottKnessita: Please say so in the bug.15:34
nessitaScottK: sure, thanks15:35
nessitadone15:35
ScottKnessita: Approved.  Also 944982.15:37
ScottKnessita: Please get them uploaded quickly so the string changes will land soone.15:37
ScottKsoon....15:37
nessitaScottK: sure I will, thanks a lot :-)15:37
stgraberany archive admin planning on going through the pending package removals soon? bug 931809 is causing some confusion at the moment because we have both the lttng 1 and lttng 2 stacks in the archive15:37
ubot2`Launchpad bug 931809 in ust "Please remove the old LTTng packages from the Ubuntu archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93180915:37
* ScottK wishes he had powerz for removals.15:38
pittiinfinity: yes, that too; but someone moved it to universe, and it showed up on c-m15:53
infinitypitti: Yeah, weird that it moved at all.15:53
cjwatsonpossibly a side-effect of changing source package, though still odd15:55
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infinityOh, not odd if it was removed and then NEWed.16:01
infinityBut very odd (and potentially buggy) if it changed source packages and soyuz just decided to demote it willy-nilly.16:02
araskaet, ping16:17
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skaethiya ara,  pong but otp...16:37
stgraberdavmor2: ok, reproduce the bugs (first one is that it doesn't show any wireless, second one is that it doesn't skip with the essid field being empty)16:37
stgraber*reproduced16:38
davmor2stgraber: it's nice to know it's not just me for a change :)16:39
davmor2cjwatson: ^16:39
cjwatsonstgraber: do you have a DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer log?16:52
cjwatsondavmor2: bear in mind I just got back off leave and this isn't top of my list :-)16:52
stgrabercjwatson: yes, just need to get it off the test machine ;)16:53
stgrabercjwatson: I found the problem with the scanning though (at least I think)16:53
cjwatsonok16:53
stgrabernetcfg brings the interface up/down every second during the scan instead of brining it up before the loop and bringing it down afterwards16:53
davmor2cjwatson: yeap noted16:53
stgraberso if the card takes > 1s to be ready to scan (as most cards seem to), then you won't get anything16:54
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cyphermoxdavmor2: I was planning on checking out a d-i install with wireless very soon, I could get this done today if it helps. just let me know exactly what you're looking for, since i'm more trying to reproduce leftover configs from d-i that shouldn't be there after install (otherwise NM doesn't grab the wifi device)17:14
cyphermoxnm, I didn't see some of the backlog17:15
stgrabercan someone from the release have a quick look at bug 946861? it's a minor UI change in epoptes (Edubuntu only) and I confirmed it's not affecting any existing screenshot or documentation18:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 946861 in epoptes "[UIFe] show real name menu entry" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94686118:04
ScottKstgraber: Go for it.19:14
ScottKFeel free to copy/paste that in the bug.19:15
stgraberScottK: thanks19:15

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