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keesvagrantc: thanks! I've pushed the updated sigs :):)00:01
vagrantckees: excellent!00:02
slangaseknathwill: also useful to know: after 'bzr merge ../debian', 'bzr diff' will show the difference vs. the previous Ubuntu version, 'bzr diff --old ../debian' will show the difference vs. the latest Debian version00:03
vagrantckees: cookie-free, to boot!00:04
keeshehe00:04
nathwillthanks slangasek. i take it once pushed, an lp-propose will be smart enough to propose a merge to package master?00:04
nathwillor do i need to specify00:05
slangaseknathwill: it should be smart enough :)00:06
sunarst4rtest00:08
nibalizerslangasek: I think I found what I would consider a bug w/ the live/installer CD: right after booting, you get no networking because it doesn't dhclient or anything00:12
nibalizeris that intentional00:12
bkerensahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/94672900:12
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 946729 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical Lockup Defect during normal use " [Undecided,New]00:12
nathwillhey slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs/+bug/94671500:15
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 946715 in gnome-vfs (Ubuntu) "promote libgnomevfs2-extra to main" [Undecided,New]00:15
nathwillnudge nudge00:15
slangaseknibalizer: if you're using the live-installer, then you should get networking via network-manager00:16
nibalizerslangasek: all it says is "Wired network. Device not managed", why doesn't network manager 'manage' my wired connection?00:17
slangaseknibalizer: good question! :)00:18
keesnibalizer: check /etc/network/interfaces  -- if the interface is listed there, I think N-M will ignore it00:18
nibalizerAlso, if you lack networking: Ubuntu Software Center can't install things. But it creates an icon on the Unity-Dock-launcher-thing with a "?" on the picture and THEN fails, causing an eyesore and useless app00:19
slangaseknathwill: it's true that I have access to change the override to main, but you would need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess first :)00:21
nibalizerkees: eth0 is in network/interfaces00:23
blkperlslangasek: bug 793632 closed in debian, fixed in ubuntu?00:23
lubotu1Launchpad bug 793632 in puppet (Ubuntu) "puppetmaster and puppet have clashing logrotate configs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79363200:23
keesnibalizer: try commenting it out and restart n-m.00:23
nibalizerkees: haha, rather than starting to work, n-m now reports 'no network devices available'00:26
* kees holds his face00:27
nibalizerpoor network manager00:27
keesnibalizer: I never get it right and always have to try a few things00:27
nibalizerdroped as a child00:27
nibalizers/droped/dropped/00:27
keesnibalizer: here's what I have:00:27
keesauto eth000:27
kees#iface eth0 inet dhcp00:27
nibalizerkees getting networking isn't my problem, dhclient makes it go, I'm wondering if this is a bug worth reporting to lp00:28
keesoh, hrm... sure!00:28
keesit may get ignored for a while, but at least it'll be there. :)00:28
blkperlnibalizer: bug 88642700:31
lubotu1Launchpad bug 886427 in oidentd (Ubuntu) "oidentd doesn't have a status option in the init script" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88642700:31
slangasekby default when using the live installer, /etc/network/interfaces should not have anything for eth0, letting n-m manage it00:31
slangasekso that's a bug00:31
slangaseknibalizer: so please file it :) ^^00:31
slangasekbkerensa: grep -r 'thing to search' directory/00:32
slangaseknathwill: have followed up on the gnome-vfs thing, it needs to be fixed by the inkscape maintainers and once changed there the archive will get semi-automatically updated00:33
nathwillslangasek: schweet. thanks00:33
bkerensaslangasek: so say a typo is something like "this app doessss this" and it occurs in multiple files within the source tree how could I easily replace all instances of that typo with the correct spelling?00:34
slangasekbkerensa: um... grep -r 'this app doessss this' directory | xargs sed -i -e's/this app doessss this/this app does this/'00:36
slangaseksorry, no00:36
slangasekgrep -rl 'this app doessss this' directory | xargs sed -i -e's/this app doessss this/this app does this/'00:36
* nathwill hearts xargs00:36
nibalizerslangasek: sorry getting familiar with lp bug reporting... what package is this related to ? n-m or live-installer?00:41
* nibalizer supposed live-installer may not be a package00:42
slangaseknibalizer: 'ubiquity' as the catch-all package00:43
slangaseknibalizer: however: when you *boot* the live-CD, what does /etc/network/interfaces look like?00:44
nibalizerslangasek: i'm booted into the live-cd, haven't started installer, we have a loopback and an eth000:45
slangaseknibalizer: then that's a bug in live-build00:47
slangasekor in casper00:47
bkeroHow's that Ubuntu meetup going?00:51
slangasekit's goin'00:53
bkeromake it go!00:54
bkerensaslangasek: this was the bitesize bug that was related to kernel-team https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/59310700:54
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 593107 in linux-meta (Ubuntu) "Package description for linux-tools-* needs improvement" [Low,Fix released]00:54
bkerensaits now fixed00:54
bkerolol00:56
bkerowhat a bug00:56
nathwillslangasek: do you prefer we just subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, or do you want us to link you merge proposals?01:14
* kees stabs lintian01:23
keesadam_g: say... which # is the lvm/watershed bug?01:28
slangaseknathwill: merge proposals automatically wind up on the sponsorship list without having to subscribe anyone :)01:31
nathwillah. kk. well nm then!01:31
nathwillthe Getting Sponsorship wiki may have an old way of doing it listed then01:31
slangasekkees: bug #80262601:32
lubotu1Launchpad bug 802626 in lvm2 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "vgchange may deadlock in initramfs when VG present that's not used for rootfs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80262601:32
slangaseknathwill: does it?  Let me see01:32
slangaseknathwill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship doesn't mention subscribing sponsors01:33
bkerensaslangasek: Interested in working on #337358 if you have some guidance as to a propose change I could fix01:33
slangasekthat's only mentioned in the traditional process01:33
bkerensaBug #33735801:34
lubotu1Launchpad bug 337358 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager lacks support for wpa-essid though ifup can handle it fine" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33735801:34
nathwillah, it's not the SeekingSponsorship wiki, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix#Committing_the_fix01:34
nathwillslangasek, i'll change it...01:34
nathwilland... it won't let me edit it01:38
TRAVISgheading over be there soon01:39
nibalizerslangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/94678301:40
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 946783 in live-build (Ubuntu) "No networking in live-cd " [Undecided,New]01:40
nibalizerwhat package is related to ubuntu software center?01:42
bkerensaBug #66165401:43
lubotu1Launchpad bug 661654 in pam (Ubuntu) "pam_motd should log the error when run-parts fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66165401:43
slangaseknibalizer: thankee01:44
slangaseknibalizer: 'software-center'01:44
nibalizerslangasek: yea i just figuerd that out01:47
nibalizerslangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/94678901:55
lubotu1Ubuntu bug 946789 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Lacking network, failed package installs still create broken entry in Launcher" [Undecided,New]01:55
nibalizeralso is it inteded behavior for every application installed in software-center to be added to Launcher?01:55
nibalizerThat seems... unsustainable01:55
slangaseknibalizer: no02:04
slangaseknibalizer: with the networking bug, you booted an actual liveCD, right, not netbooting?02:24
keesadam_g: http://outflux.net/udev/02:41
cy1Welp I'm gonna head off. It's now dark enough to bicycle around all over the place. :p03:16
cy1http://pastebin.com/JtN0aKTw03:21
bkerensahi nathwill17:20
nathwillhi bkerensa!17:21
nathwillhow's thangs?17:21
bkerensanathwill: good :) how is yhoo17:21
bkerensa;p17:21
nathwillstill here!17:22
cweber10morning17:22
nathwillmorning cweber, how's it goin?17:23
cweber10on way to school, and finaly caught up on sleep.17:23
bkerensacweber10:  :( seeya at 1pm on the WOU presentation thingy17:24
bkerensa;p17:24
cweber10yep need to actuly set up g+ on my school account17:25
bkerensanathwill: #900002 is now dead17:27
nathwillyaaaay17:27
nathwillthat bug was out of control17:27
bkerensanathwill: it is now #947240, #947242, #947244, #947245, #947246, #947247, #94724817:27
bkerensa:D17:27
nathwilldamn yooo17:28
nathwill;)17:28
bkerensalol17:28
bkerensacweber10: I hope Becka knows that I intend to wholly use the Ubuntu Wiki on Triaging :P17:30
bkerensaI think it provides a pretty "precise" guide on triaging17:30
bkerensa;017:30
cweber10bkerensa: Yea not 100% sure what she expects. BTW setup google+ on my school account.18:14
cweber10Yestery was good, got lots of good information18:16
cweber10yesterday even. :P18:18
nathwilllol.18:23
nathwilli like yestery18:23
nathwillsounds like yester-eve18:24
bkerensanathwill: :( A white square artifact took over my desktop... this is the second time it has happened and upon reboot my wallpaper was defaulted and my launcher18:42
bkerensa:(18:42
nathwillwhat'd you DO!18:42
bkerensanathwill: idk and now it wont let me set a background at all and appearance has background set but it is not the one displaying18:44
bkerensa:(18:44
bkerensaslangasek to the rescue?18:44
bkerensa;p18:44
bkerensaif I knew which package was bugging I would file a report18:44
slangasekhmm?18:58
slangasekstart with gnome-control-center, I guess18:58
slangasekbkerensa: ^^18:59
bkerensak19:08
bkerensaslangasek: I was talking to jcastro who also has encounter and he thinks it may be drivers issues19:08
slangasekcould be, though I don't recall seeing any driver updates recently19:09
nathwillbkerensa: you using the proprietary graphics drivers?19:24
bkerensanathwill: nope19:24
nathwillyaaay19:24
vagrantcanyone leave a thick black hoodie sweatshirt at freegeek during the gloabl jam yesterday?20:21
vagrantclet me know, otherwise i'll put it in the freegeek lost and found20:22
bkerensavagrantc: A hoodie and not a zip up?20:46
vagrantcbkerensa: a zip up hoodie20:49
bkerensavagrantc: ok well I saw two... one might be nathwill20:55
bkerensaand I have to check if I took mine but I think i came in just a shirt20:55
nathwillsay what20:56
nathwillum. i had a zip-up, but it had no hood20:56
nathwilland i wouldn't call it thick20:56
bkerensacweber10: let me know when ur ready i dont see becka on g+ yet20:57
cweber10we have my laptop setup21:00
bkerensacweber10: ok so I should invite you then?21:01
bkerensacweber10: Can you add me on G+21:01
cweber10yea maybe will work21:01
cweber10i added you into my circles21:04
bkerensaok21:06
bkerensacweber10:  im in ur hangout ;021:06
cweber10ha ha got screen working21:25
cweber10bkerensa; they where talking keyboard use not mouse21:32
cweber10you still there21:33
bkerensacweber10: system had a weird shutdown for some reason21:34
bkerensacoming back up21:34
bkerensacweber10: It says the hangout ended21:36
bkerensa?21:36
cweber10yea we had school net issues so switched to wired21:37
cweber10what number?21:40
bkerensacweber10: It was my system it just popped up a shutdown dialog which I accident had clicked21:49
bkerensa:(21:49
bkerensano idea what the shutdown dialog came up though21:49
cweber10yea odd21:50
cweber10what number was your bug.21:51
bkerensaslangasek: I fixed that git bug and as expected someone is asking me to submit upstream saying they wont accept in ubuntu22:06
bkerensa:(22:06
slangasekbkerensa: what bug was this?22:07
bkerensaslangasek: #87942722:08
bkerensahere is my merge that Andreas K commented on22:08
bkerensahttps://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/precise/git/fix-for-879427/+merge/9582422:08
slangasekbkerensa: well in this case the bug was apparently already fixed both upstream and in Debian, so he's just synced the package directly22:09
slangasekso the bug is fixed now22:10
bkerensaslangasek: its not fixed though the patch that was submitted upstream previously could not have fixed it22:10
bkerensa:)22:10
bkerensathe patch submitted upstream only fixes it in two places while the typo was in much more then two places22:10
slangasekwell, the other places the string occurs are all in translation files22:12
bkerensaahh22:12
slangaseklooking at the current package22:12
slangasekthis actually means that translations in launchpad may fail to be picked up because the string being translated doesn't match the one in the source22:13
bkerensaslangasek: my merge proposal fixes the translation files22:13
slangasekyes22:13
bkerensaso do I still need to submit a patch upstream?22:14
slangasekbut I agree with Anders that this is not an issue for which we want to carry a delta in Ubuntu - we still want to be efficient in how we manage our deltas22:14
bkerensaok22:14
slangasekpushing it upstream to Debian would be best :)22:14
bkerensaslangasek: Is there a efficient command to make a patch from my branch and also what package would I submit it to on upstream?22:15
slangasek'bzr diff -p1 lp:ubuntu/git > ../git-typo.patch' should give you a patch from your branch22:16
slangasekthe package in Debian is the same as in Ubuntu22:16
slangasek(it has to be or else we wouldn't be syncing it :)22:18
bkerensaslangasek: do you know the version for debians package?22:21
slangasek1:1.7.9-122:21
slangasek(the version that the bug shows was just synced to precise)22:21
slangasekbkerensa: the best way to ensure you're submitting a patch that applies in Debian in this case is by doing a 'bzr merge lp:debian/git' into your branch, then resolving any merge conflicts22:27
bkerensaslangasek: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=66270922:29
lubotu1Debian bug 662709 in git version: 1:1.7.9-1 "typo in git translation files" [Normal,Open]22:29
bkerensashould I need to redo the patch?22:29
slangasekbkerensa: hmm, both patches you sent to that bug are empty22:34
slangasekbkerensa: sorry, I gave you a bad command - it should be 'bzr diff -p1 --old lp:ubuntu/git > ../git-typo.patch'22:39
bkerensaslangasek: No I'm going to look like a fool to the DD :P22:42
slangasekjust blame it on me22:42
slangasekit's a good idea to review diffs for sanity before emailing them off to bug trackers, fwiw :)22:43
bkerensaslangasek: :P yeah I should have checked22:44
vagrantcit's not hard to reverse the patch or change the depth, if it clearly illustrates what the problem is and how to fix it.23:00
vagrantcideally the less you have to do the better... but more important is the fix23:00
vagrantcway less of a problem than pointless whitespace changes or other random  unrelated code changes23:02
nathwillyou don't like whitespace changes?23:03
nathwilli try to introduce 10 with every commit23:04
bkerensaslangasek: BTS dislikes me that or it is taking an epic time to update any received submissions... I forwarded you the working patch23:04
bkerensanathwill: ;p23:04
bkerensanathwill: some person called me and asked if I was the freegeek guy and then said they found the dollar store and hung up23:05
bkerensa=/23:05
nathwillyou left your sign up!23:05
nathwillhahahaha23:05
bkerensaOH FUDGE23:05
bkerensa:(23:05
bkerensano23:05
bkerensano please tell me I didnt23:05
nathwillwell i certainly didn't take it down23:06
bkerensa:( how could I have forgot23:06
bkerensanow everyone who saw it is going to random dial me23:06
bkerensagood thing it was google voice23:06
vagrantcbkerensa: i'll take it down tomorrow23:07
bkerensahmm a grump debian developer just e-mailed me :P23:08
bkerensagrumpy*23:08
nathwilllmao23:08
vagrantcbkerensa: let it wash over you like water off a duck's back23:08
bkerensahe said "so I don't23:09
bkerensahave to do this reassign dance - however fun it may be, it gets tiresome23:09
bkerensaafter a while."23:09
nathwillwas it kees?23:09
bkerensano23:09
bkerensaGergely Nagy23:09
bkerensaapparently I tagged the bug wrong so he had to do some sort of debian re-assign dance ;)23:10
bkerensaI guess thats like a rain dance or something23:10
slangasekthe pseudoheader in Debian bug messages is line-based23:15
slangaseklooks like you accidentally ran the 'Package' and 'Version' lines together23:15
bkerensaslangasek: Is there any reason BTS would be ignoring my working patch submission?23:19
slangasekwhat address did you send the mail to?23:19
bkerensaslangasek: 662709@bugs.debian.org23:23
bkerensanathwill: I heard back from O'Reilly apps open at end of this month and they think we should be good23:25
nathwillbkerensa: good deal :)23:25
slangasekbkerensa: it's probably just that the mail gateway is sometimes slow.  email isn't realtime (which is one of the complaints about the Debian bts)23:25
bkerensanathwill: also I will be out of state in May likely could you handle our meeting that month?23:25
nathwillyassir, but you'll need to remind me23:25
bkerensanathwill: Will do... I will hopefully be in Oakland for UDS23:26
nathwillaw23:39

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