[00:00] <fgera> I feel this is it :) http://pastie.org/3522327.js
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> gary_inNYC: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a    use http://paste.ubuntu.com to hold the text please
[00:00] <fgera> or this also http://paste.ubuntu.com/869134/
[00:00] <ghost13> anyone messing with 12.04? how do you like it?
[00:00] <CFHowlett> !precise|ghost13
[00:01] <rudy691> can anyone help a complete n00b with 'error file not found, grub rescue' thingy ? PLEASE.
[00:01] <tendouser> [18:58] <tendouser> ok I have wepcrack aircrack compat-wireless and aircrack patch ...but still have -1 channel error ...what's going on?
[00:01] <jack> ghost13: works fine so far
[00:01] <tendouser> [18:59] <tendouser> plus mdk3 and crunch error compiling both
[00:01] <ghost13> i know what it is..been using ubuntu sence 5.04
[00:01] <tendouser> [18:59] <tendouser> i have oneiric kernel 3.0.0-16
[00:01] <ghost13> cool
[00:01] <rudy691> can anyone help a complete n00b with 'error file not found, grub rescue' thingy ? PLEASE.
[00:02] <gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869137/
[00:02] <CFHowlett> !patience|rudy691
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> gary_inNYC: you have no driver loaded for your ati chip. You may need an xorg.conf file to specify the display. Have you tried Oneiric? The later drivers and kernel may work better
[00:03] <tendouser> plus mdk3 and crunch error compiling both
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> fgera: your paste will look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869137/
[00:04] <fgera> ActionParsnip: ok.
[00:05] <shade34321> hmm...computer seems to be hanging at checking battery state on start up
[00:05] <shade34321> ?
[00:05] <TBCR> I need help
[00:05] <TBCR> Wired and wireless connections are not working
[00:06] <_Marcus> TBCR: Do you have a network card?
[00:06] <TBCR> Ya
[00:06] <_Marcus> TBCR: What Ubuntu version are you running?
[00:06] <TBCR> 10.04
[00:06] <johnnycr> hey all, I new to linux and I just installed 10.04 on a secondary desktop and I'm having trouble getting my usb wireless adapter to connect to my network.  I could really use some help.
[00:06] <gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: haven't tried Oneiric.  think i'll wait for precise to come out
[00:06] <CFHowlett> TBCR   WAS it working ir is this a new install.
[00:07] <TBCR> New install
[00:07] <jonpavelich> johnnycr: What kind of wireless network?
[00:07]  * CFHowlett bets john has  a broadcom card...
[00:07] <waxstone_> shade34321:any recent changes to your system?
[00:07] <_Marcus> TBCR: Did you download the drivers for your cards?
[00:07] <TBCR> I cant
[00:07] <tendouser> I have Oneiric 3.0.0-16 thinkpad t61 lenovo ...i have installed wepcrack, aircrack-ng+patch & compat-wireless ...I get error compiling crunch-worlist and mdk3 and still got -1 channel bug in aircrack ...can someone help me??
[00:07] <_Marcus> TBCR: Why not?
[00:07] <CFHowlett> tendouser   aircrack is not supported on this channel.
[00:08] <TBCR> Cant connect
[00:08] <_Marcus> tendouser: You should try aircrack's IRC channel
[00:08] <shade34321> waxstone_, new install that wasn't showing x at first or virutal terminals, then let me in virtual terminals, then updates...so a few:)
[00:08] <TBCR> Cant download on phone
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> gary_inNYC: its in beta1 right now, could try the liveCD
[00:08] <TBCR> File too big
[00:08] <_Marcus> TBCR: Oh.
[00:08] <shade34321> waxstone_, manually updating some packages now to see if it helps
[00:08] <johnnycr> jonpavelich, it's my home network
[00:08] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   in a terminal type the following then paste the output    lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> TBCR: what file system does the phone storage use?
[00:08] <Canadian1296> johnnycr: Listen to CFHowlett
[00:09] <_Marcus> TBCR: Does your phone have a tethering option? If so, you could temporarily hook it up to your computer for a connection, just to download the file.
[00:09] <waxstone_> shade34321: this happened to me today with a bad grub command
[00:09] <TBCR> Cost extra
[00:09] <TBCR> Plus, not in phone package
[00:09] <_Marcus> TBCR: Hm. You should answer ActionParsnip's question.
[00:09] <shade34321> waxstone_, well that is helpful...i was messing with grub earlier...i will take out what i put in and go from there
[00:10] <TBCR> Android, not sure what it is
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> TBCR: if you use FAT32, you will have a maximum file size of 4Gb
[00:10] <johnnycr> CFHowlett, I didn't get any output
[00:10] <waxstone_> shade34321: good luck
[00:10] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   NO output?  NOTHING?
[00:10] <johnnycr> nothing
[00:10] <Canadian1296> CFHowlett: Does it need sudo?
[00:11] <rudy691> can anyone help a complete n00b with 'error file not found, grub rescue' thingy ? PLEASE.
[00:11] <TBCR> What is the max for android phones
[00:11] <KM0201> if it's fdisk, yes it does... sudo fdisk -l
[00:11] <KM0201> fdisk returns no output w/o sudo
[00:11] <CFHowlett> johnnycr  shouldn't need to to do it this way but try this instead sudo lpsci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[00:11] <shade34321> waxstone_, and a no go...though I can still get into virtual terminals
[00:11] <KM0201> CFHowlett: that shouldn't need sudo
[00:12] <johnnycr> CFHowlett, I still get nothing
[00:12] <CFHowlett> KM0201   exactly but he got NO output so I'm just wondering
[00:12] <tendouser_> how do i get and invitation to aircrack channel?
[00:12] <KM0201> CFHowlett: he probably typed it wrong
[00:12] <CFHowlett> tendouser_   we don't know ...
[00:12] <johnnycr> there is a space before and after "|" correct?
[00:12] <zykotic10> !register | tendouser_
[00:13] <tomvolek> is there a command to see if i am using ststic ip or dhcp ?
[00:13] <_Marcus> TBCR: I don't know what your Android is using, but by default they use YAFFS. I don't know how much the max is for that either
[00:13] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   copy and paste the following to your terminal  lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[00:13] <KM0201> CFHowlett: which broadcom does he have that you guys are trying to get working?
[00:13] <waxstone_> shade34321: bah.. thats all I got sry.
[00:13] <CFHowlett> KM0201   still trying to identify the card - might not even be broadcom
[00:13] <KM0201> CFHowlett: lspci?  no need to make it more complicated than it needs to be
[00:13] <shade34321> waxstone_, it's cool...thanks though:)
[00:13] <johnnycr> CFHowlett, I'm on my windows machine so I can't copy paste to terminal from here
[00:14] <TBCR> =/
[00:14] <KM0201> johnnycr: just type lspci and hit enter... find your wireless device in the output
[00:14] <shade34321> I will keep working on it and finagling with it until i get pissed off enough to do another reinstall:)
[00:14] <zykotic10> tomvolek: not that i'm aware of... are you using network-manager?
[00:14] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   ok, type in anything after "Broadcom" if that term is present
[00:14] <KM0201> it should be fairly recognizable
[00:15] <philip__> Hello. I'm using devede 3.21 and i'm  getting the spumux bug when trying to create dvd from mkv container with subs in it. It won't let me attach external subs either. Any ideas?
[00:15] <CFHowlett> philip_ ask in #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel as well
[00:15] <johnnycr> no broadcom, but I got "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)"
[00:16] <KM0201> johnnycr: that is your ethernet port
[00:16] <johnnycr> yea, so it looks like my usb adapter isn't even detected
[00:16] <KM0201> lol, you didn't say it was usb
[00:16] <KM0201> try lsusb
[00:16] <zykotic10> johnnycr: try "lsusb"
[00:16] <philip__> Ok i'll do that. Thanks CFHowlett.
[00:17] <FunkyBob> morning, all...
[00:17] <KM0201> if it's USB, i'm guessing it's probably a ralink
[00:17] <CFHowlett> philp_ also the ubuntustudio or ubuntu multimedia forums
[00:17] <CFHowlett> FunkyBob   greetings
[00:17] <KM0201> *realtek
[00:17] <FunkyBob> is there a reason /usr/lib/libz.so and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so are recursive symlinks to each other?
[00:17] <johnnycr> I got my mouse and one that says "ID 0bda:8171 Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
[00:17] <FunkyBob> instead of pointing to /lib/
[00:17]  * KM0201 wins a prize
[00:17] <KM0201> lol
[00:18] <KM0201> johnnycr: what version of ubuntu are you using?  Realtek usually "just works" in my experience?
[00:18] <johnnycr> I'm using 10.04
[00:18] <KM0201> well, that explains that
[00:18] <johnnycr> should I try 11.10 instead?
[00:18] <KM0201> why don't you try 11.10, see if that solves your problem
[00:19] <KM0201> but be prepared to battle unity... lol
[00:19] <johnnycr> I know... that's why I went with 10.04 first
[00:19] <FunkyBob> looking at apt sources, i appear t obe using oneiric
[00:19] <FunkyBob> and the zlib package is: Version: 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu3
[00:19] <johnnycr> is unity not optional?
[00:19] <KM0201> johnnycr: well, there's other options than Ubuntu, you could try Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu...
[00:20] <johnnycr> those are just different GUIs correct?
[00:20]  * KM0201 loves Lubuntu
[00:20] <johnnycr> instead of GNOME or Unity?
[00:20] <KM0201> johnnycr: more or less, yes.
[00:20] <KM0201> Kubuntu=KDE, Xubuntu=XFCE, Lubuntu=LXDE
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> TBCR: the max depends on the format of the storage, not the OS
[00:20] <h4ckm3> Lubuntu ftw!
[00:20] <johnnycr> my machine is only 2.0ghz dual core with 2gb ram... are those going to run well?
[00:21] <h4ckm3> lubuntu is the lightest
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> johnnycr: thats more than anything I have, it'll run well
[00:21] <FunkyBob> guess I'll just report the bug through the web
[00:21] <KM0201> johnnycr: KDE will be the slowest, Lubuntu will freaking fly on that machine.
[00:21] <aaron_ed> hi, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 onto my new laptop and it isn't recognizing my network cards, wireless or ethernet (Atheros AR8152 and Realtek RTL8188CE).  does anyone know where to find the correct drivers?
[00:21] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   lubuntu and xubuntu are designed for older or lower spec machines like yours.
[00:21] <quantumlemur> hey, I'm on a thinkpad T420s with a displayport, and when I boot the computer with the cable already plugged in, it detects it as an audio output, and everything works.  But when I plug it in after I'm already logged in, it doesn't get detected.  Is there a way to force a rescan?
[00:21] <h4ckm3> very fast
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: could even just use openbox, even lighter :)
[00:22] <Xeneth_studying> Hello people.
[00:22] <AcidRain> i have a laptop dm4-3055dx that i installed ubuntu 10.4.4 on, no sound, no wireless. anyone know why?
[00:22] <shade34321> think I may use the terminal to much...I just tried to tab complete a google search:/
[00:22] <johnnycr> is lubuntu not officially ubuntu?
[00:22] <cowlicks> Why would the kubuntu alterate ISO not install kubuntu-desktop by default? -__-
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> johnnycr: lubuntu is now an official release
[00:22] <johnnycr> oh, okay
[00:22] <KM0201> johnnycr: yes, now it is
[00:22] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   it IS officially ubuntu just different flavort
[00:22] <CFHowlett> *flavor*
[00:23] <johnnycr> i'll look at lubuntu and xubuntu
[00:23] <CFHowlett> aaron_ed   see this http://www.chayx.net/2011/06/how-to-install-realtek-rtl8188ce-wifi-drivers-thinkpad-edge-13-on-ubuntu-natty-1104.html
[00:23] <AcidRain> why would linux not detect sound card or wireless card?
[00:23] <johnnycr> xubuntu looks similar to mac osx
[00:23] <KM0201> the newest version of xfce, was a huge disappointment
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: config
[00:24] <KM0201> johnnycr: lxde has a sexy simplicity, that you just have to use to appreciate... http://imagebin.org/202029
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: is the system a laptop?
[00:24] <Xeneth_studying> AcidRain, Guessing that the drivers are not built in.
[00:24] <nsadmin> I've been wanting to see this unity thing, and I was under the impression it does 3d stuff which I'm not sure my vid supports... can someone help me to explore whether and how it's supported?
[00:24] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip: yes its a laptop
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: grab a wired connection and get fully updated. Should help
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: johnnycr: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png
[00:25] <johnnycr> should i go for desktop lubuntu or alternate or minimal?
[00:25] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip: ok hang on. ill brb. disconnecting from here
[00:25] <fgera> http://pastie.org/3522447.js
[00:25] <KM0201> johnnycr: desktop (it's a live cd so you can try it from the cd/usb.. to test your wireless)
[00:26] <damianstudios> hola
[00:26] <fgera> http://paste.ubuntu.com/869177/
[00:26] <paku> This is for the decision makers at Ubuntu: I disliked Unity and planned to migrate to KDE, but playing with the 12beta, I have to say I'm starting to see the light. It's well designed.
[00:26] <johnnycr> also... I have an AMD 64 x2 processor, so should I download the x86 version or the 64-bit AMD64 version?
[00:26] <nsadmin> my video from lspci is: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] [1002:9712]
[00:27] <KM0201> johnnycr: either one, you only have 2gigs of ram though, so i'd just go w/ the 32bit
[00:27] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   desktop and alternate install the same thing.  alternate is a text based installer to bypass common display issues while installing.
[00:27] <damianstudios> alguien escribe español
[00:27] <nsadmin> !es
[00:27] <fgera> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869177/ at last I've got it
[00:27] <waxstone_> nsadmin: try the livecd, I think you can sample unity with it
[00:27] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   64 if you have > 4gigs of fam
[00:27] <CFHowlett> *ram*
[00:28] <johnnycr> thanks, I guess I'll go with x86 then
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> fgera: ok, if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig     then reboot, is it better?If not you can drop to root recovery mode (if you get no desktop) and rename or delete the file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <KM0201> johnnycr: yeah, really if you don't have over 4gigs of ram, you don't get a lot of benefit of 64bit, and lxde is so fast, you'll feel like you're using 64bit anyway..lol
[00:28] <nsadmin> hmm, can I make a disk partition to boot that? at the moment I have no cd write capability, but I do have a 2tb usb/sata hd that's connected with esata
[00:29] <johnnycr> Now I play the waiting game... I might be back in 45min or so if my wireless still won't work :)
[00:29] <KM0201> johnnycr: i'm betting its going to
[00:29] <nsadmin> hmm, and I also have a ubuntu I'm not running at the moment which I suppose I could upgrade
[00:29] <damianstudios> alguien escribe en español?
[00:29] <damianstudios> que lata
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !es
[00:29] <CFHowlett> !es|damianstudios
[00:29] <KM0201> johnnycr: i have a very very very new Ralink in my laptop, and it doesn't work in 11.10, but i installed 12.04 (which is still beta) and it works flawlessly
[00:30] <damianstudios> soy nuevo en ubuntu y estoy mas perdido que eneno en procesion
[00:30] <johnnycr> KM0201, I guess I'll give 12.04 a shot if 11.10 doesn't work
[00:30] <damianstudios> gracias ubottu
[00:31] <fgera> ActionParsnip: I'll try and see what happen
[00:31] <fgera> thanks
[00:31] <johnnycr> Are there any websites that will help me to get introduced to using linux terminal and bash codes and such while I'm waiting?
[00:31] <KM0201> johnnycr: well, you might want to venture to 12.04 very carefully, it's still beta and if you're not experienced troubleshooting problems, you could have some problems you may not be able to overcome (although thus far, it has been flawless for me)
[00:31] <KM0201> !manual | johnnycr take a looksie, it's good newb information..
[00:31] <symptom> I heard that kbuntu will no longer receive support from canonical.  Will Ubuntu still have the KDE desktop in their repos going forward? and the "support" means they wont have ubuntu specific art? right?
[00:31] <nsadmin> johnnycr, learning the bash shell is pretty involved... just give it time
[00:31] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   I wouldn't do 12.04 until it's released...
[00:32] <johnnycr> KM0201 thanks for the manual link. Downloading now
[00:32] <pylaurent> I installed ubuntu11.10, and I deleted win7's loader before I installed it, and when I boot my laptop, I get "operating system not found", any idea?
[00:32] <shade34321> Alright back to my ubuntu problem....any idea why it would hang on checking battery state on start up...or anything I can check that'd be a little more helpful
[00:32] <taylor> ActionParsnip: this is acidrain. i installed updates and everything. wireless is still gone, and no sound
[00:32] <nsadmin> right, if you don't know your shell and how to work it, you're presently unable to take care of a 12.x
[00:32] <KM0201> johnnycr: i think its based on 10.04, but you'll find 99.9999% of it, still applies to 11.10
[00:32] <CFHowlett> symptom   the next version 12.04 of kubuntu will receive support for 5 years as it's LTS.  after that , it'll be up to the community to maintain just like xubuntu, lubuntu
[00:33] <Guest29707> i have checked to be sure that sound was not muted or anything.
[00:33] <KM0201> i thougth kubuntu was community maintained anyway?
[00:33] <Guest29707> ActionParsnip: do you have any other ideas on what could be causi9ng this?
[00:33] <KM0201> Guest29707: do you have pulse audio installed?
[00:33] <CFHowlett> KM0201   there was also canonical developer involvement
[00:33] <symptom> CFHowlett, Yes, but after 12.04 will I have to compile KDE from source?  or will it still be in the repos, just without the kbuntu wrapper?
[00:33] <KM0201> ah, ok.
[00:34] <KM0201> symptom: as long as the community maintains it, you should be able to download Kubuntu just like you always have
[00:34] <MOP> what does windoy key + r
[00:34] <Guest29707> KM0201: how can i tell if i have pulse audio installed?
[00:34] <CFHowlett> symptom   as I understand it, KDE exists outside of ubuntu - that's just the DE
[00:34] <wilfish> Does anyone know why the command line unzip utility would fail to extract a CPIO-style zip archive created on OSX 10.7?
[00:34] <symptom> because kbuntu is just kde with ubuntu specific art work and certain kde programs.
[00:34] <KM0201> Guest29707: in a terminal  sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[00:34] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screensaver activated
[00:34] <pylaurent> I installed ubuntu11.10, and I deleted win7's loader before I installed it, and when I boot my laptop, I get "operating system not found", could you please help me?
[00:34] <KM0201> yikes
[00:35] <Guest29707> KM0201: yes, its installed
[00:35] <symptom> CFHowlett, yes, but other distros allow you to simply install the KDE desktop via the package manager, will this be the same for ubuntu?
[00:35] <KM0201> pylaurent: does Ubuntu load?
[00:35] <KM0201> Guest29707: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[00:35] <Guest29707> KM0201: now what is this?
[00:35] <KM0201> symptom: probably
[00:35] <Guest29707> i installed it
[00:35] <CFHowlett> symptom   I'd guess it'll be the same situation as you suggest
[00:35] <KM0201> Guest29707: "pavucontrol" (Pulse Audio volume control)
[00:36] <Guest29707> its installed. still no sound
[00:36] <KM0201> Guest29707: ok, now, go to the dashboard, and search for pulse audio, and you should see it, open it up
[00:36] <KM0201> Guest29707: listen...
[00:36] <killown> does anyone know if there is a daily  updated PPA for chromium? the chromiun-daily  has no updates for a lot weeks
[00:37] <Guest29707> KM0201: i am on the output device tab. still no sound
[00:37] <itaylor57> KM0201, o/
[00:37] <xangua> (18:31:58) symptom: I heard that kbuntu will no longer receive support from canonical. - you need to read again
[00:37] <xangua> http://is.gd/XMqraR Canonical will, from Kubuntu 12.10 onwards, provide backing for the KDE flavour in the same way as it does Xubuntu, Edbuntu, and Lubuntu – with infrastructure and resources rather than money.
[00:37] <KM0201> itaylor57: hey man,.,, :) o/
[00:37] <KM0201> Guest29707: click on the configuration tab
[00:37] <symptom> thanks xangua
[00:37] <Guest29707> KM0201: ok. now what? i only got like 3 options
[00:38] <KM0201> whats it set to now?
[00:38] <Guest29707> ANALOG STEREO DUPLEX
[00:38] <Guest29707> sry for caps :(
[00:38] <KM0201> hmm
[00:38] <KM0201> whats your sound device again?
[00:38] <Guest29707> KM0201: how do i check that?
[00:39] <pylaurent> KM0201: no
[00:39] <KM0201> pylaurent: ?
[00:39] <Guest29707> KM0201: i believe that the wireless card and sound card not working are both from the same issue
[00:39] <Guest29707> KM0201: ive never had a computer that i installed ubuntu on, fresh, work this poorly
[00:39] <KM0201> Guest29707: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:39] <Guest29707> KM0201: 10.04.4
[00:39] <KM0201> lol
[00:40] <Guest29707> KM0201: what? :/
[00:40] <KM0201> new computer>>3yr old OS... I'm gonna go buy a new laptop, and install Win 98, and expect everything to work!
[00:40] <pylaurent> KM0201: when I turn my laptop on, I just got nothing but "operating system not found"
[00:40] <Guest94515> whats the best prog to burn dvds with?
[00:41] <Guest29707> KM0201: so are you suggesting that if i installed 11.10 that it WILL work
[00:41] <Guest29707> KM0201: i just dont want to be forced into unity. i like the classic gnome desktop
[00:41] <KM0201> no, what i'm suggesting, is you have very new hardware apparently, on a 3yr old OS... what did you think was gonna happen?
[00:41] <KM0201> Guest29707: well, you're gonna get forced into it eventually anyway, so embrace the horror
[00:42] <Guest29707> KM0201: pfft. i refuse.
[00:42] <Guest29707> KM0201: but you are saying that this is for sure the cause?
[00:42] <KM0201> Guest29707: or, learn one of the other UI's... KDE, Xfce, LXDE.. there are options you know
[00:42] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screensaver activated
[00:42] <riddlebox> Guest29707, there is always xfce
[00:42] <KM0201> Guest29707: no, i'm putting 2 and 2 together
[00:42] <Guest29707> KM0201: -.- i will try again. burning 11.10 as we speak
[00:42] <Guest29707> ok, im going back to my server box
[00:43]  * KM0201 <3's ubuntu server
[00:43] <jayar> can i use brasero to burn dvd movies?
[00:43] <KM0201> pylaurent: answer your PM, we'll trouble shoot this privately since you seem completely lost.. :)
[00:44] <KM0201> jayar: .. i don't think so (maybe)... handbrake should handle that for you though
[00:45] <KM0201> pylaurent: ?
[00:45] <skypce> hello
[00:45] <skypce> how can i change the color depth in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:46] <KM0201> !rootirc
[00:47] <xonix> ls
[00:48] <Xeneth_studying> Bye Peeps
[00:48] <KM0201> pylaurent: are you lost?
[00:48] <RoDiMuS-X> skypce: you can try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Yu6LVUbWE
[00:48] <skypce> very thank you RoDiMuS-X
[00:48]  * shrike-9 cumprimenta respeitosamente
[00:51] <pylaurent> KM0201: sorry
[00:51] <pylaurent> KM0201: I am back
[00:51] <KM0201> ok
[00:51] <KM0201> did you get my private message?
[00:53] <sergiu> this windows is so lame
[00:53] <praxedes> i did registered using irssi but still outputs need an invitation.
[00:54] <praxedes> #aircrack
[00:54] <nsadmin> is it possible to boot a live cd stored on an hd partition?
[00:55] <hellknight> I'm thinking of install Ubuntu 11.10 on my Dad's laptop. Dell Inspiron 14 R (Intel Core i3 2350m, 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3, 320 GB HDD, Dell Wireless 1702 802.11n)
[00:55] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to  create an extended partition in ubun
[00:55] <nsadmin> hellknight, your dad OK with that?
[00:55] <hellknight> Now, I've been using Ubuntu on my desktop computer since a long time. But I've heard that Ubuntu eats a lot of battery when compared to Windows.
[00:56] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to create an extended partition in gparted, but the option is greyed our.  Any ideas why?
[00:56] <nsadmin> that would mostly depend on the kernel... it could be
[00:56] <liemt> \nick Katherine
[00:56] <hellknight> nsadmin, yeah he is. He just checks email, listens songs, and some documents etc. He uses a lot of pendrives so he wants some security from viruses etc
[00:56] <nsadmin> does he want to have what's there wiped?
[00:56] <pythonsnake> hellknight: underclock cpu
[00:57] <gvo> hellknight there are tweaks to fix the battery problem.
[00:57] <hellknight> It'll be dual-boot.. In India we don't get Dell without Windows so Win 7 Home Basic will be there as I paid for it. Or is there anyway to remove it but re-install it later without those activation headaches
[00:57] <pythonsnake> like decreasing brightness
[00:58] <nsadmin> hellknight, dunno about that part
[00:58] <hellknight> Yeah.. I'll decrease the brightness. I'll tell him about that.
[00:58] <philipballew> If someone tells me to find my bridge ipaddress, where would I look for it?
[00:58] <pythonsnake> disable everything compiz
[00:58] <hellknight> Question, are the hardware buttons for decreasing brightness, increasing volume etc supported by Ubuntu? It works fine on my desktop keyboard (Logitech MK320). But I don't know about laptop
[00:59] <pythonsnake> dont even use gui, go tty
[00:59] <CFHowlett> hellknight   depends on the specific laptop.  Most name brands are supported
[00:59] <hellknight> pythonsnake, he's not techsavy. so I need GUI..
[01:00] <gvo> check out this site for info on battery life issues:  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_31_power_regress&num=1
[01:00] <pythonsnake> close daemons
[01:00] <hellknight> gvo, thanks for the link
[01:00] <gvo> There are some issues that can be corrected.
[01:01] <hellknight> CFHowlett, it is the latest Dell Inspiron 14 R. purchased it about 4-5 months ago..
[01:01] <gvo> I have a netbook that I got up to 6 hours life running Mint 12.
[01:01] <CFHowlett> hellknight   dell tends to be very well supported.  Tip: install the DELL recovery media creator
[01:02] <hellknight> CFHowlett, Already taken care of. Made recovery disks.. :)
[01:02] <CFHowlett> hellknight   niiiiice!
[01:02] <hellknight> Ok suppose I recompile a custom kernel, & get rid of unncessary modules. Will that help? And what adverse effect will it have on future updates
[01:03] <jack> hellknight: totally depends on how custom your kernel is
[01:04] <hellknight> jack, I don't need the NVIDIA & ATI modules as it has integrated Intel HD graphics..
[01:05] <hellknight> The upcoming Linux 3.1 kernel will draw more power, Phoronix says.. I already have 3.2 on Arch Linux.. But on desktop..
[01:05] <jack> hellknight: sure, that's np - leave them out
[01:06] <escott> hellknight, the audio control buttons are usually supported out of the box. the hardware brightness controls dont generate keycodes but actually trigger acpi events so they are acpi and hardware dependent
[01:06] <hellknight> One last question, I never connected Linux PC to an external HDMI based display. Will it work properly on Ubuntu?
[01:06] <escott> hellknight, works perfectly on my i3 system
[01:06] <hellknight> escott, I'll run & check it via Live CD this everning.
[01:07] <KI7MT> Get a bit hard to see frmo any distance, but 42" screen works fine here too.
[01:07] <hellknight> escott, no issues with sound? I mean the audio goes out properly to say a HDTV?
[01:07] <T_H_X> works fine here too
[01:08] <T_H_X> gt440 though
[01:08] <escott> hellknight, you may have to go into pulse audio controls and switch the output but its better than windows. once you switch the output device existing channels are moved to the TV whereas with win**ows you have to close and reopen the app
[01:08] <hellknight> Oh nice. Then I suppose his students will be suprised to see a new operating system besides Windows on their teacher's laptop.
[01:08] <independent> can someone skilled help me installing SSHater on lastest ubuntu
[01:09] <independent> SSHatter
[01:10] <quantumlemur> hey, I'm on a thinkpad T420s with a displayport, and when I boot the computer with the cable already plugged in, it detects it as an audio output, and everything works.  But when I plug it in after I'm already logged in, it doesn't get detected.  Is there a way to force a rescan?
[01:10] <KI7MT> Edubuntu is pretty nifty, check it out :-)
[01:10] <hellknight> I tried Edubuntu few years ago.. Good for kids. But he's a teacher :P
[01:10] <CFHowlett> hellknight   look again - it's improved
[01:10] <escott> quantumlemur, you dont have an alternate output selectable in the audio properties
[01:11] <KI7MT> He can load anything he wants too, our schools here are testing Ubuntu for all their Desktop needs.
[01:11] <quantumlemur> escott, there's only an alternate output if it boots with the cable already plugged in
[01:11] <hellknight> cfhowlett, it has Unity or GNOME 3?
[01:11] <CFHowlett> hellknight   gREAT question!  IDK tho ...
[01:11] <CFHowlett> wait 1
[01:11] <independent> noone can help me install SSHatter ?
[01:12] <hellknight> checking out the site
[01:12] <hellknight> independent, what is it?never heard the name
[01:12] <independent> its a ssh brute force tool
[01:12] <escott> quantumlemur, have you checked the output of lsmod? are the same set of modules loaded? if not then you probably just need to modprobe the audio driver. if both are loaded either way then it would qualify as a pulseaudio bug
[01:12] <ghost13> independent: you might do better to ask on the backtrack chan
[01:13] <escott> !backtrack | independent go there for illegal stuff
[01:13] <hellknight> independent, what problem are you facing?
[01:13] <ghost13> independent: and i find medusa better for that
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> [need help!] -- "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[01:14] <quantumlemur> escott, I'll reboot and compare lsmod output.  how do I modprobe the driver, if needed?
[01:14] <escott> quantumlemur, sudo modprobe module_name
[01:15] <hellknight> The Ubuntu 10.04 has LTS kernel right? So it should've better power management features.. What do you guys think?
[01:15] <CFHowlett> hellknight   don't know if the KERNEL is LTS but 10.04 is ....
[01:16] <CFHowlett> hellknight   thank you for sparking my quick peek @ edubuntu.  I just discovered/installed ubuntu-wallpapers-extra  !
[01:16] <escott> hellknight, seems you missed the point of LTS. the kernel is older because its LTS doesn't necessarily mean its better. for a sandybridge you absolutely do NOT want 10.04
[01:16] <escott> hellknight, unless you don't want your intel graphics supported
[01:17] <gr33n7007h> [need help!] -- "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[01:19] <Canadian1296> Apache2 isn't letting me access /usr/share on my server (getting forbidden)
[01:19] <hellknight1> OK i'll keep you guys updated. I'll rejoin the channel & will tell you about the installation. Thanks for the help..
[01:21] <Chipzzz> Canadian1296: how are you trying to access it?
[01:21] <gvo> Canadian1296: check permissions
[01:21] <quantumlemur> escott, I didn't find any difference in the lsmod output (except for the order), but curiously enough, the hdmi output now showed up, when I plugged it in after boot.  This is after many times trying it before without it working... and now it's magically fixed?
[01:21] <hopstafarian> hi all
[01:22] <Zaitzev> omg xbmc is such a piece of work, it completely hangs up and I can't exit it no matter what I do
[01:22] <gvo> quantumlemur: magic.
[01:22] <Zaitzev> I actually have to press the reset-button and reboot the machine to get out of it.
[01:22] <escott> quantumlemur, its because you are in the irc channel. it checks for that and makes sure to work properly when you are logged in
[01:22] <CFHowlett> hopstafarian   greetings
[01:23] <quantumlemur> gvo, escott, surely that's the reason.  Well, if it stops working, is there any useful debug information I can gather?
[01:23] <hopstafarian> CFHowlett, and to you...what's new and exciting?
[01:23] <Canadian1296> Chipzzz, gvo: I got it, thanks. I was missing a couple lines in the apache config file.
[01:23] <CFHowlett> hopstafarian   just doing my little bit to support ubuntu - you haz questions???
[01:24] <escott> quantumlemur, the first thing to check is the lsmod output. i would guess the module is not loading. basically udev should detect the hotplug and setup both the graphics and audio drivers and create the devices and pulse should take over from there. what is breaking in that chain is unclear
[01:24] <gvo> quantumlemur: +1
[01:27] <gr33n7007h> [need help!] -- "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[01:27] <CharminTheMoose> I'm building an 11.04 based livecd, I'd like to have the option to be able to, in some way, remove all access to harddisks and/or usb externel media.
[01:27] <escott> gr33n7007h, anything prior to that? usually there is some indication why the remote closes the channel
[01:27] <Chipzzz> gr33n7007h: using ssh or a protocol dependent upon it?
[01:28] <escott> CharminTheMoose, remove the user from plugdev
[01:28] <gr33n7007h> ill give you guys output of ssh
[01:28] <escott> CharminTheMoose, but why? physical access is root access
[01:29] <jack> if not better
[01:29] <quantumlemur> escott, gvo, ok, I tried rebooting again, and this time it didn't pick up the hdmi sound output.  lsmod output is still the same in all cases, though
[01:29] <gr33n7007h> ssh output http://pastebin.com/Cn86yQ9u
[01:30] <jack> physical access beats root access, imo
[01:30] <CharminTheMoose> escott, I mean total underlying /dev access too. Basically so, I could trash the livecd system, dd-ing everywhere and still have no fear of actually hitting the harddisks.
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/cant-ssh-to-remote-machine-connection-closed-by-remote-host-267052/
[01:31] <CharminTheMoose> and why? Well why not? :D
[01:31] <gr33n7007h> ok i look now
[01:31] <escott> CharminTheMoose, and if they have physical access to be able to run a livecd they have physical access to be able to use a sledgehammer
[01:31] <KM0201> pylaurent: are you there?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/01/howto-solve-ssh_exchange_identification-connection-closed-error.html
[01:31] <escott> CharminTheMoose, long and short is this isnt a supported lockdown setting because its ineffective
[01:31] <hopstafarian> escott = troubleshooter after my own heart..
[01:32] <Canadian1296> How do I make ufw allow any port from 127.0.0.1
[01:32] <AcidRain> KM0201: you were right about one thing
[01:32] <CharminTheMoose> Awww nuts then, cheers anyway, escott :)
[01:32] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: (*big thumbs-up*)
[01:32] <KM0201> AcidRain: prrobably more than 1 thing, but humor me.. :)
[01:32] <AcidRain> KM0201: 11.10 works, sound is good. and wireless is great
[01:33] <escott> quantumlemur, then look at the dmesg output. to be honest i dont know all the details of how udev/pulse are supposed to be handling this. i would imagine there were be a dbus message from udev to pulse
[01:33] <KM0201> AcidRain: so i was right about more than 1 thing..lol
[01:33] <AcidRain> lol
[01:33] <AcidRain> but... 10.04 was released in 2010. not that old. its supported till 2013.
[01:33] <AcidRain> :)
[01:34] <KM0201> AcidRain: it's supported, but that doesn't mean its going to work with all new hardware, etc. right out of the box.
[01:34] <AcidRain> KM0201: oh, and thankfully there is a gnome-shell that is in the repos. that has saved my life and kept me using linux
[01:34] <KM0201> AcidRain: well, 12.04.... bye bye gnome-shell
[01:34] <AcidRain> wtf. bah. u lie
[01:34] <matchbox> test
[01:34] <quantumlemur> escott, another clue, if this tells you anything:  I'm using f.lux, which changes the color temperature of your primary monitor.  The time that I plugged in the tv and the sound worked, f.lux switched to changing the color of that monitor, rather than my normal one (which it doesn't normally do)
[01:34] <KM0201> AcidRain: like i said, embrace the horror, learn to love unity, or embrace another desktop UI.. kde, xfce, lxde
[01:34] <KM0201> AcidRain: nope, not lying at all
[01:35] <AcidRain> gnome-shell just isnt quite as good as using it when its preinstalled. gnome-shell doesnt display the "System" tab
[01:35] <joebodo> troll
[01:35] <gr33n7007h> still nothing thanks anyway
[01:35] <AcidRain> KM0201: im going to do some research on kde interfaces and what not. which one do you use yourself?
[01:36] <Chipzzz> gr33n7007h: you rebooted the ssh server?
[01:37] <KM0201> AcidRain: lxde
[01:37] <escott> quantumlemur, im not sure what that would have to do with anything
[01:38] <AcidRain> KM0201: http://lxde.org/lxde_desktop so i heard you like windows a little ;p
[01:38] <fgera> hi again
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: its a fast DE, very lightweight
[01:39] <KM0201> AcidRain: it's nothing like windows... awesome
[01:40] <fgera> ActionParsnip: I've run sudo nvidia-xconfig but after reboot I lost the monitor signal
[01:40] <nrdb> hi... I am having troubles with samba ... again ... the command 'smbclient -L bigone' shows that there are a number of shares available... but they dont show up in 'Places->Network' ... what is wrong?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> fgera: ok then boot to root recovery mode and run:  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: what OS is the server?
[01:42] <demonspork> box
[01:42] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu Lucid .. Linux bigone 2.6.32-21-server #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 09:17:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: have you shared the home folder of a user?
[01:43] <fgera> ActionParsnip: will do that
[01:43] <fgera> ActionParsnip: thanks
[01:43] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, no, some others.
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> fgera: np ;)
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: are the systems in the same workgroup? If you didn't change the default, then they are
[01:44] <nrdb> the smbclient returns what is expected on both the server and client
[01:44] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, yes
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: what if you run:  nautilus \\bigone
[01:45] <sylasL> CFHowlett, thanks again for your help last night. guess what, i turned on my comp this am and wireless was working! :) thanks to your guys' help.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: or:  nautilus \\bigone\sharenamehere
[01:46] <CFHowlett> sylasL   wait wait
[01:46] <CFHowlett> sylasL   for you:   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/Pictures/Success.jpg
[01:46] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, Could not find "/home/neil/\bigone".
[01:47] <fgera> ActionParsnip: please retype your last sentence as I lost it. thanks
[01:47] <sylasL> CFHowlett, heh. i wish i could bake you all some brownies or something!
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> (01:41:12) ActionParsnip: fgera: ok then boot to root recovery mode and run:  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:48] <CFHowlett> sylasL   pay it forward ... (also you might want to make notes of what worked.   Just in case...)
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: there is a 'connect to server' under the file menu in nautilus, do that work
[01:48] <sgo11> in nautilus (ubuntu 11.10), how to disallow it to remember the VIEW setting. like icons, list view etc.. it always tries to remember the view setup for a particular directory. thanks.
[01:49] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, tried that a while back it says things like ftp etc. no option for samba or cifs
[01:49] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, opps missed the option.. will try.. hang on
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: one option is Windows Share
[01:50] <sylasL> CFHowlett, will do.  you guys rock. gonna look into installing tor now, hope all goes smoothly!
[01:50] <CFHowlett> sylasL   have fun / be safe
[01:51] <sylasL> CFHowlett, thanks!
[01:52] <quantumlemur> escott, after searching online, one suggestion was to install pavucontrol, which gives the option of selecting hdmi configurations.  Doing that seems to make it re-recognize the hdmi, and then it works.  I'll just settle for that for now.  thanks for your help :)
[01:53] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, that works, but it still isn't showing up in the 'Places->Network->windows network  ... :-(
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: use that method, then when you have the share open,add it as a bookmark
[01:55] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, ok... I will.. but there is something not quite right with the "Places->Network" stuff.
[01:55] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: could report a bug, not used it thatway myself
[01:58] <fgera> ActionParsnip: I forgot to mention that I've already fixed the monitor signal lost that I've mentioned before. reinstalled ubuntu. so should I run  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf anyway?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> fgera: you could rename it
[02:01] <splinter47> hello
[02:01] <CFHowlett> splinter47   greetings
[02:02] <splinter47> what's this chatroom all about?
[02:02] <CFHowlett> !ubuntu|splinter47
[02:02] <Mike9863> With GNOME shell, whenever I move a window near another one it sticks to the edge of the window. Is there a way to disable this?
[02:03] <escott> Mike9863, check extensions.gnome.org
[02:07] <alpin> hi
[02:07] <CFHowlett> alpin   greetings
[02:08] <mike_> hey
[02:08] <Guest23332> hey
[02:08] <anthony_s> hi, i'm trying to install build-essentials onto my new laptop (that has no internet connection).  i don't have the install CD so I'm trying to install build-essential from source.  i've downloaded build-essential_11.1.tar.gz but i've read that there are other dependencies i'll need also.
[02:09] <anthony_s> does anyone know where i can download a list of dependencies that i can also build from source?
[02:09] <CFHowlett> anthony_s   see this http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[02:10] <danielboston26> who for the first time ever the chat room is silent
[02:10] <danielboston26> wow*
[02:10] <anthony_s> CFHowlett: thanks!
[02:10] <CFHowlett> anthony_s   no problem
[02:10] <Guest23332> im having trouble conecting to a wifi network using comand line
[02:11] <danielboston26> guest23332 more info please
[02:11] <escott> Guest23332, if possible use the network manager gui and then use nmcli
[02:11] <Guest23332> im now conected using   a wifi manager
[02:11] <Guest23332> give me a second to explain whats hapwning
[02:12] <Guest23332> apening
[02:12] <vn> hi, im installing ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS x64 atm and it's whining it doesn't detect any NIC in my computer but it has 2...how can I get it to detect them?
[02:14] <user__> n
[02:14] <escott> vn, nothing is listed in ifconfig other than the loopback interface lo
[02:15] <danielboston26> vn probably needs the drivers for his cards
[02:15] <vn> yah well I didn't install yet, I'm still in the install
[02:16] <danielboston26> hmmm
[02:19] <cclove> nothing is listed in ifconfig other than the loopback interface lo sometimes it may cause the network interface is not bring up....
[02:19] <icedtea> anyone know the best way to determine if upstart is installed?
[02:19] <CFHowlett> icedtea   apt-cache policy upstart
[02:21] <icedtea> thank you!
[02:21] <CFHowlett> icedtea   no problem
[02:22] <magpii> i upgraded to 11.10 but the desktop sux. is their a way to replace the 11.10 with the 10.04  desktop please?
[02:22] <Zugaasde> Quick, what´s the disk command line utility?
[02:22] <icedtea> cfdisk
[02:22] <Zugaasde> cuz i cannot use gparted cuz of some problems
[02:22] <dr_willis> magpii,  thers some fallback desktops that are similer to the gnome2 - but personally.. i suggest getting used to unity. Its MUCH improved in the next release
[02:22] <CFHowlett> magpii   keep 11.10 - try installing a different desktop environment: xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu
[02:22] <dr_willis> !classic
[02:23] <Zugaasde> icedtea: errr, i mean the command for disk actions bulit in the system, im using live cd
[02:23] <dr_willis> magpii,  if you want an oldskool type desktop thers lubuntu and xubuntu also.
[02:23] <escott> !nounity | magpii
[02:23] <nsadmin> Zugaasde, parted, fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk
[02:23] <Zugaasde> ummm, some command that starts with l?
[02:23] <escott> nsadmin, also gdisk for gpt partitions
[02:23] <Zugaasde> idk
[02:24] <magpii> ok thanks for the info
[02:24] <Guest23332> danielboston26,  after dhclient wlan0 i get this after a while  No DHCPOFFERS received
[02:24] <Zugaasde> im trying to resize my disk
[02:24] <nsadmin> read their man pages (DO NOT say you weren't warned) and consider backing up those partitions you already have, containing data valuable to you
[02:24] <Zugaasde> OK
[02:24] <danielboston26> guest23332 well something is broken
[02:24] <Zugaasde> Bye
[02:24] <danielboston26> lol
[02:25] <nsadmin> if he wants to resize his disk... only way I see is buy a larger drive)
[02:25] <escott> Guest23332, trying to connect throught wlan on cli is tough. you need to check with iwconfig that you have the correct essid, then you need to run wpa_supplicant if applicable, and then you can try dhclient
[02:25] <attio> Hello?
[02:26] <Canadian1296_> Postfix won't relay mail to external servers, just deliver to itself. How do I enable relaying?
[02:26] <CFHowlett> attio   greetings
[02:26] <Guest23332> send vendor-class-indentifier "MSFT 5.0"; someone refered this in dhcp.comp resolved
[02:26] <nsadmin> Canadian1296_, adjust the configuration
[02:26] <Guest23332> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371247
[02:27] <Guest23332> what the hell is that?
[02:27] <nsadmin> wait, relaying? nono, please DON'T. open relays are spammer tools
[02:27] <dr_willis> nsadmin,  thats what i was thinking.
[02:27] <dimitrisk> Hi there
[02:27] <CFHowlett> dimitrisk   greetings
[02:27] <nsadmin> well maybe he doesn't want that exactly... a limited relay would be alright
[02:27] <attio> Good, I did it right. I'm having some trouble trying to partition the drive that Ubuntu is currently on, I want to partition it partially for Ubuntu, and another part NTFS. Although because I have Ubuntu already installed on the drive, it won't let me unmount it how I would normally to make a partition. Would it be possible to do this?
[02:28] <dimitrisk> Thanks, CFHowLett
[02:28] <escott> attio, you need a livecd
[02:28] <CFHowlett> dimitrisk   what's the problem
[02:28] <dr_willis> attio,  a gparted live cd, is how i normally do that task
[02:28] <Guest23332> escott, i have configured manualy like said in ubuntu manual with wep key
[02:28] <Canadian1296_> nsadmin: Yes, but which setting is it?
[02:28] <nsadmin> attio, yes, if you have unpartitioned space you can do this
[02:28] <dimitrisk> No issue, just tried to use irc. It's been long time.
[02:28] <nsadmin> Canadian1296_, way wayyy more than one possibility
[02:28] <CFHowlett> dimitrisk   understood
[02:29] <nsadmin> see what happens when you dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:29] <escott> Guest23332, if you know the subnet set a static ip and see if you can ping the router
[02:29] <okum> how to get menu on panel in 12.04?
[02:29] <attio> What's a live CD? :s
[02:29] <nsadmin> (not (that's NOT) available to help with details)
[02:29] <Guest23332> i have to disconect
[02:29] <escott> attio, the install cd has a livecd component
[02:30] <attio> I used a USB drive to install my Ubuntu version.
[02:30] <Canadian1296_> nsadmin: an example then
[02:30] <Guest23332> escott, check this it  identical to my problem
[02:30] <Guest23332> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371247
[02:30] <aibo_U> hi
[02:30] <Jeremy3D> i have ATI Catalyst Controller and AMD Catalyst Controller.  My card is a ATI Radeon HD 5550.  How do I remove the AMD Catalyst Controller only?>
[02:30] <CFHowlett> aibo_U   greetings
[02:31] <escott> Guest23332, you are assuming you successfully negotiated the supplicant
[02:31] <Guest23332> escott,  what the hell is  this send vendor-class-indentifier "MSFT 5.0"
[02:31] <aibo_U> lil prob: i wanted to try out the gnome 3 desktop so i just installed the gnome-shell... i don't know why, but it starts the fallback-version when i choose it at the login :(
[02:31] <escott> Guest23332, a workaround for broken routers that can only talk to windows machines
[02:32] <Guest23332> ohh
[02:32] <aibo_U> ah btw. ubuntu 11.10 and unity just worked fine so i don't see any reasons why i shouldn't work with gnome3 in general
[02:32] <escott> aibo_U, you dont have the glx drivers installed properly then
[02:32] <Jeremy3D> anyone know?
[02:33] <Guest23332> escott,  ok   im testing
[02:33] <Guest23332>  i have to disconect
[02:33] <aibo_U> escott: i installed the drivers ubuntu offerd me... should i look up some special drivers?
[02:33] <escott> aibo_U, what does glxinfo say
[02:34] <aibo_U> one sec please
[02:34] <iToast> hey
[02:34] <iToast> Im curious about somthing...
[02:34] <aibo_U> escott: missing, missing, missing...
[02:34] <iToast> Would it be possible to make your OWN isp?
[02:34] <iToast> ;p
[02:34] <makoy> :D
[02:34] <escott> aibo_U, well the drivers arent working. what kind of graphics card do you have
[02:34] <iToast> Were able to setup our own PPoE servers and DNS servers so those problems are out of the way
[02:35] <iToast> We Have the software, but the curiousity is, would it be possible?
[02:35] <aibo_U> escott: it'sa nvidia gt550m
[02:35] <CFHowlett> !ot|iToast
[02:35] <escott> aibo_U, and you have the nvidia drivers installed from jockey-gtk
[02:35] <iToast> CFHowlett, This is about ubuntu, I wan't to do it all on ubuntu
[02:35] <iToast> :P
[02:35] <iToast> Would it be possible to make a home ISP powered BY ubuntu
[02:35] <Jeremy3D> can someone gimme a hand with some graphic card questions?
[02:36] <iToast> So use ubuntu to run DNS and other servers required
[02:36] <escott> iToast, its not clear what you are asking to do
[02:36] <aibo_U> escott: i'm pretty new to ubuntu... i just installed what ubuntu offerd me at the system settings extended drivers menu... thank you, i'll just look everything up!
[02:36] <escott> iToast, you just want to run DNS on ubuntu? easy install DNS and configure your clients to use it
[02:36] <iToast> escott, if i were to have a home connection thats powerful eneugh, could i run a home isp
[02:36] <iToast> Say sell off extra bandwith to others and controll it through a ubuntu box
[02:37] <escott> aibo_U, im not too familiar with nvidia, but until glxinfo lists the nvidia drivers it is not working
[02:37] <iToast> Alot of people were i live just steal others internet :P
[02:37] <escott> !ics | iToast
[02:37] <iToast> escott, I also wan't to controll who can access it.
[02:37] <CFHowlett> iToast   aside from violating the terms of your current ISP, it's technically doable.
[02:37] <aibo_U> escott: okay, nice to know :D just wondering because everything seemed to work pretty fine out of the box :)
[02:37] <alphasynaptic> Is there a command that I can use to determine where the MBR resides? GParted shows sda1 as the windows part i created which is fine. But then sda2 is expandable into sda5 and sda6 with sda5's mount point being /. So my question is, is the MBR located in sda, sda2, or sda4 in my case?
[02:38] <iToast> CFHowlett, Bell Canada doesnt care. I run a home server already powered by ubuntu, now im after guides to put my ubuntu box to more use, also is there a simple quick web admin panel OTHER then webmin...
[02:38] <escott> alphasynaptic, mbr is the beginning of the disk. always
[02:38] <alphasynaptic> so sda?
[02:38] <escott> alphasynaptic, yes
[02:38] <alphasynaptic> thank you sir
[02:39] <fgera> hhi again
[02:39] <attio> So, is there no way to reformat my ext4 file system which currently has Ubuntu installed to partition itself to become one with a NTFS file system?
[02:39] <fgera> been trying to solve my nvidia grafic card issue
[02:39] <Jeremy3D> i need help solving an ati issue
[02:39] <almoxarife> iToast: forget ubuntu for offering up your router (wifi) connections, a avg router will offer up a service where you can control access via mac id, too easy
[02:39] <escott> attio, you cannot run ubuntu on an ntfs, and you cannot (except for certain exceptions) change a partition type
[02:39] <iToast> almoxarife, the problem is, i need somthing with a brain.
[02:40] <attio> Okay, thanks.
[02:40] <iToast> A ubuntu machine can monitor everything and log everything in real time without slowing down, a router can't do that. thats why im going for ubuntu, its quick to setup and easy to maintain
[02:40] <fgera> no luck removing or renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf even in recovery mode
[02:40] <escott> iToast, just look at the ics information
[02:41] <almoxarife> iToast: brains? like who gets to use the router? when? to where? the router would still be faster and less error proof
[02:41] <iToast> escott, ok. one more question. if i setup a VPN server, can i set it up to automaticly kill the connection and reject it once a user hits their account's limit? i know alot of people who would LOVE a vpn for privacy
[02:42] <escott> iToast, probably
[02:42] <iToast> almoxarife, the main interface fails. the router dosent know to fall over to a different wan, a ubuntu machine does.
[02:43] <sun_devil> Any idea what a public FTP directory is ?
[02:43] <iToast> almoxarife, a linux powered machine is superior for this task. A router is just missing all the features i wan't, like a x86 cpu :P I dont wan't to be stuck with 4 scripts running, i wan't up to 4k+! So ima look at the ICS guide
[02:44] <escott> sun_devil, its a public ftp directory? what is the context for this question
[02:45] <fgera> any idea to solve nvidia issue rather than remove or rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:45] <sun_devil> I have a file in my pub directory and just wanted to test it
[02:45] <zabomber> iToast: have you googled PPTPD +ubuntu . it has all the info you need to accomplish what you asking
[02:45] <iToast> zabomber, no, thats why im here :P
[02:46] <zabomber> iToast: didn't find it? what exactly do you want to do?
[02:46] <makoy> test
[02:46] <iToast> zabomber, Right now i wan't to do somthing diff that i've yet to find any good documention until today on, run my own local dns server.. :P
[02:46] <matju> how do I run an ALSA app in Ubuntu 11.10 ? I get « device or resource busy » even with pasuspender or LD_PRELOAD tricks
[02:47] <zabomber> iToast: sudo apt-get install bind9 . ill get the doco shorlty
[02:47] <zabomber> !bind
[02:47] <iToast> Im after a simple dns server that keeps everything cached so instead of going to 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8 it goes to my local dns server
[02:47] <iToast> zabomber, already got the documentation
[02:48] <zabomber> than whats the problem? i have a DNS server setup at home that does what you ask for? i followed the doco too ;)
[02:48] <Guest49516> hey guys
[02:48] <iToast> zabomber, Im confused now, for the caching server its a forwarder thing in the documents
[02:48] <Guest49516> is this the right chan for soem small help with updating?
[02:49] <magicJ> iToast: just set 127.0.0.1 as your primary, those as the next two and install bind9
[02:49] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   yes.
[02:49] <iToast> zabomber, The forwarder works on asking a external dns server for the info the first time but every other time it pulls from local records
[02:49] <Guest49516> thanks cfhowlett
[02:49] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   ask away
[02:49] <zabomber> iToast: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch6/#caching
[02:49] <Guest49516> should i just pastebin n the problem
[02:49] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   yes
[02:49] <aibo_U> mhm, jockey-gtx drivers are installed and i followed the instructions over here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771806 but glxinfo still says missing missng... and i find myself on the fallbackversion of gnome :(
[02:50] <iToast> zabomber, so install bind9 setup cacheing restart the dameon, change my dns to that servers IP and it will just work...?
[02:50] <Guest49516> http://pastebin.com/14h0ALwX\
[02:50] <Guest49516> http://pastebin.com/14h0ALwX
[02:51] <iToast> Guest32249, both links work..
[02:51] <Guest49516> i used to know how to fix theese things but i spent too many years away from ubuntu
[02:51] <sun_devil> I heard you can use ftp and send a file in your public dir.  My vsftpd is on.  Have been researching how to use ftp
[02:51] <escott> Guest49516, before upgrading you are supposed to remove any ppa's
[02:52] <escott> !ppa-purge | Guest49516
[02:52] <iToast> sun_devil, are you running a ssh server?
[02:52] <Guest49516> i was doing sudo apt get update though
[02:52] <sun_devil> no
[02:52] <sun_devil> iToast, no
[02:52] <iToast> sun_devil, i would have said just sFTP into it if you were :|
[02:52] <escott> Guest49516, you have ppa's listed in your apt sources that don't exist and so you get warnings. if you want to remove the warnings remove the ppas
[02:53] <Guest49516> CFHowlett do yhou agree with escott ?
[02:53] <iToast> sun_devil, does the ftp acc have access to your website document directory
[02:53] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   I do.
[02:53] <Guest49516> ok
[02:53] <Guest49516> i likey
[02:53] <iToast> sun_devil, and does it have RWX rights to it?
[02:53] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I'm using the free messa drivers for graphic acceleration and compiz works fine, but when I try wine I'm getting "err:wgl:has_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory "
[02:53] <Gaming4JC> any idea if I need a dependency or something for libgl?
[02:53] <Guest49516> so i can just remove the ppas that are popping up with warnigns, and leave the other ones
[02:53] <Guest49516> ?
[02:53] <sun_devil> not a website, i set the permissions to chomod 777
[02:54] <iToast> sun_devil, best way is to try it and see if it throws a error.
[02:54] <Guest49516> thanks a lot escott and CFHowlett
[02:54] <sun_devil> iToast, have you ever used it?
[02:54] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   have fun / be safe
[02:55] <matju> how do I run an ALSA app in Ubuntu 11.10 ? I get « device or resource busy » even with pasuspender or LD_PRELOAD tricks
[02:55] <Guest49516> indeed, always
[02:55] <xangua> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/hud/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found - looks like either, there are no packages in that ppa for the ubuntu release you use or if it had it, the packages Or the ppa was deleted Guest49516
[02:55] <Guest49516> one more quick question
[02:55] <iToast> sun_devil, the dameon, no. i perfer to use sFTP even though its inside a locked up network >:3
[02:55] <Guest49516> when the new LTS comes out, should I upgrade to that?
[02:55] <iToast> Guest32249, if you would like
[02:55] <CFHowlett> Guest49516   I'd recommend you stick with LTS releases ...
[02:55] <iToast> Its not manditory, it will use kernel 3.*.*.
[02:55] <Guest49516> ty xangua
[02:56] <xangua> Guest49516: pangoline 11.04 ; year, month
[02:56] <Guest49516> ok, im on the newest release right now
[02:56] <iToast> Guest32249, what are you running now?
[02:56] <iToast> Ah
[02:56] <Guest49516> but i like the new LTS coming out in April I hink it is
[02:56] <aibo_U> maybe i should've said it's a hybrid graphicscard system... :(
[02:56] <xangua> i mean pangolin 12.04 :P Guest49516
[02:56] <iToast> Guest32249, I would be too, but my video card dosent work with it O.o
[02:56] <Guest49516> lol xangua
[02:56] <hybrid> aibo_U, called me ;p
[02:56] <sun_devil> iToast, I know you set it to work in /var/vsftpd.conf.  I have a file in /var/ftp/pub
[02:56] <Guest49516> now i know what the release numbers mean, dates lol
[02:56] <aibo_U> haha sorry :D
[02:57] <escott> aibo_U, the best supported method is to disable one card in the bios. see also bumblebee or vgaswitcheroo
[02:57] <iToast> sun_devil, test it, it should work.
[02:57] <johnnycr> Hey all, I've got Lubuntu 11.10 installed now and still having trouble connecting to the internet with my wireless usb adapter
[02:57] <Troller> how tough its gonna be for a total linux begginer to set up ubuntu and install nvidia drivers, to test for a faulty gpu??
[02:57] <iToast> sun_devil, Im not good with vsftp as i just login as root over SFTP :p
[02:57] <Guest49516> installing purge-ppa as we speak, thanks a lot everyone i love you
[02:57] <iToast> sun_devil, I'm more of a ssh person.. mabey someone else can provide better help
[02:57] <sun_devil> iToast, Iam just trying to figure out how to fire it up in the command line
[02:58] <sun_devil> iToast, thanks
[02:58] <iToast> sun_devil, no problem :P
[02:59] <athit> Hi
[02:59] <athit> ,
[02:59] <fusiform___gyrus> hey people i have instaled radio tray and alarm clock from ubuntu software center
[02:59] <fusiform___gyrus> :)
[02:59] <fusiform___gyrus> hi
[02:59] <fusiform___gyrus> :)
[02:59] <FloodBot1> fusiform___gyrus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <fusiform___gyrus> and when i start it
[02:59] <iToast> fusiform___gyrus, don't spam.
[03:00] <johnnycr> can anyone help me get this wireless adapter to work?
[03:00] <fusiform___gyrus> it doesent do anything
[03:00] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   NEW one?  or the same one...
[03:00] <fusiform___gyrus> how to put it on tray list  ? :) tnx
[03:00] <johnnycr> same one, different OS now
[03:00] <johnnycr> I'm running Lubuntu 11.10
[03:01] <johnnycr> The icon keeps spinning and it says "requesting wireless connection" but then it pops up and says disconnected and keeps spinning
[03:01] <aibo_U> troller: not that easy :(
[03:01] <sparkybluefox> Good night everybody..... I must retire.
[03:02] <athit> have office 2010 for ubuntu .?
[03:02] <CFHowlett> johnnycr   could the connection require a password wep/wap protected?
[03:02] <Troller> aibo_U haha yeah i suspected
[03:02] <CFHowlett> athit   libreoffice
[03:02] <fusiform___gyrus> i have instaled radio tray and alarm clock from ubuntu software center and when i start it it doesent do anything, alarm show's up, but not on the tray, radio tray doesent show up on tray, but it's active in proceses... again :) how to put aps on tray bar :) ty
[03:02] <athit> thank
[03:02] <fusiform___gyrus> 11.04
[03:02] <johnnycr> CFHowlett, I have the WPA2 password and SSID entered correctly
[03:02] <johnnycr> I'm connected to the network successfully on all my other computers and devices
[03:02] <aibo_U> Troller: but seems to be a common problem ... a few people with the same setup also struggeling...
[03:03] <johnnycr> It's possible the usb adapter is bad
[03:03] <johnnycr> but it's brand new so that seems unlikely
[03:03] <vn> um I'm installing Ubuntu and I mistepped in setting up LVM basics..now it cannot go backwards because it says it is in use, how can I destroy the LVm setup?
[03:03] <johnnycr> I'll try it on another computer
[03:03] <vn> my RAID is hardware so I don't need LVM'ed disks
[03:03] <CFHowlett> johnnycr  easier test; same usb, different wifi point
[03:04] <fusiform___gyrus> iToast can U help me ?
[03:06] <shade34321> Where should I look to find clues as to why my system is hanging up on start up, doesn't boot past a certain point
[03:06] <Troller> aibo_U ah ic
[03:06] <Troller> brb gotta reboot
[03:07] <escott> shade34321, first step is to press the up arrow and see what the last thing it does it
[03:08] <johnnycr__> CFHowler, I was able to use the usb adapter to connect to the network on my windows PC, so the adapter is good
[03:08] <escott> shade34321, second try to ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you can login to a terminal
[03:08] <CWChou> Can someone help me with a question on whether I should live boot ubuntu or knoppix?
[03:08] <johnnycr__> It's got to be a problem with the OS not recognizing it or something
[03:08] <Fyodorovna> !ask | CWChou
[03:08] <escott> vn, raid and LVM are orthogonal features to each other
[03:08] <shade34321> escott, I've done both, it hangs on checking battery state(it's a desktop and actually hangs right after but nothing is displayed after it) and I can access virtual terminals
[03:09] <CWChou> sorry new at this don't know how to work the irc.
[03:09] <CFHowlett> johnnycr_ good to know.  Realtek is out of my area of experience, so I'm just gonna watch.  Ask in the main channel again.  Have patience - looks like you're close!
[03:09] <escott> shade34321, can you service lightdm start?
[03:09] <dlentz> shade34321, that means X isn't starting, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:09] <CFHowlett> CWChou   ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu are good choices...
[03:09] <johnnycr__> Can anyone help me out with getting a wireless USB adapter working on Lubuntu 11.10?
[03:10] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr_, maybe name the usb device to begin with.
[03:10] <shade34321> escott, it does not seem like I can start it
[03:10] <shade34321> dlentz, I will look into it
[03:11] <escott> shade34321, then check the Xorg.0.log to see why
[03:11] <octagon> anyone here use touchnooter to root a nook simple touch
[03:11] <CWChou> I'm trying to get >4gb files off my mac. I was thinking of using ubuntu 11.10 as a live boot without installing. I remembered I used to do this with knoppix and it worked.  I want to write to NTFS drives from the Linux Live OS.  Is ubuntu going to have full capability?
[03:11] <vn> escott: what do you mean?  if I enable hardware RAID, I have no choice to use LVM?
[03:11] <escott> CWChou, yes
[03:11] <dlentz> johnnycr__, what is the adapter (or more importantly, what chipset does it use)?
[03:11] <log> CWChou: Yes.
[03:11] <St2al> #vhost
[03:11] <johnnycr__> its a Rosewill RNX-N150UBE but Ubuntu recognizes it as a Realtek RTL8188SU
[03:12] <Fyodorovna> CWChou, knoppix would be better it is running in root.
[03:12] <escott> vn, orthogonal means that the features provided by one are complementary to those provided by the other but neither requires the other
[03:12] <St2al>  !vhost ou@juste.deux
[03:12] <shade34321> escott, I have a few errors it seems but I don't really understand them...I'll try and pastebin them for you
[03:12] <johnnycr__> when I put lsusb in the terminal it registers as RTL8188SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[03:12] <escott> vn, so to say you don't need it is correct, but you might want it
[03:13] <vn> escott: ok, hence why I don't want LVM, but now it doesn't allow me to destroy the LVM partition, how can I do that?
[03:13] <vn> escott: yes I know, for flexible disks and such
[03:13] <escott> vn, you would have to boot a livecd and create a new partition table without the lvm
[03:13] <CWChou> Alright, Thanks everyone. I'll look into knoppix then.
[03:13] <mrFrog> I'm on 10.04, and even though i did "apt-get install db4.8-util", when i try to run "db_load…" it says command not found. what package am i supposed to install?...
[03:13] <reesk92> im having a prlblem with flash whenever it asks me if i want to alow the app to use my webcam it freezes and wont let me operate anything in that window
[03:14] <vn> um I'm in the install right now, new partition table is that when you select the disk?
[03:14] <escott> vn, you would tell it to destroy the existing data on the disks and reinstall
[03:14] <johnnycr> Fyodorovna, dlentz, any ideas?
[03:15] <athit> Hi,
[03:15] <vn> escott: I have no data, its a fresh system
[03:15] <CFHowlett> athit   greetings
[03:15] <escott> vn, also it is doubtful you have real hardware raid. you probably have bios raid AKA fake raid which is discouraged. a better solution is mdadm
[03:15] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr, my advice would be to get a out of the box working usb they arfe cheap.
[03:15] <Fyodorovna> are*
[03:15] <sun_devil> how do you open a .zip file in downloads by command line
[03:15] <escott> sun_devil, unzip
[03:15] <zonyl> CFHowlett: (In regards to FreeNX->) Well settled on the non-free NX client.   Unfortunately doesnt like Unity 3D at all.  Oh well.. time to switch to 2D for now.
[03:15] <vn> escott: um yes, BIOS RAID probably because its embedded to the motherboard
[03:16] <Roasted> Question - why does system-config-samba crash on my HTPC? I'm running 11.10 there along with my two laptops and desktop, yet all systems work fine. Syslog shows nothing whatsoever...
[03:16] <sun_devil> escott, unzip filename?
[03:16] <CFHowlett> zonyl   long as it works.
[03:16] <escott> sun_devil, yes it will create filename/ with the contents of the zip
[03:16] <zonyl> CFHowlett: zactly.  Thanks again for the reference
[03:16] <CFHowlett> zonyl   have fun / be safe
[03:16] <johnnycr> Fyodorovna, well I'd like to get this one working if possible.  It's supposed to be linux compatible
[03:17] <escott> vn, among the issues with bios raid are: (a) poor support (b) higher cpu usage (c) slower (d) non-portable (e) less configurable (f) no added failure resistance
[03:17] <vn> escott: are you saying fake RAID = soft raid?
[03:17] <Roasted> Cancel that - I have a feeling this may be it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1494497
[03:18] <sun_devil> ok thanks, it unzipped
[03:18] <escott> vn, bios raid is called fake raid because there is not a coprocessor doing the raid related stuff. there is no *real* raid controller. soft raid usually refers to mdadm which is the kernel provided raid
[03:18] <sun_devil> So many commands for everything, I have to google almost everything
[03:18] <Jordan_U> vn: Yes. With FakeRAID all RAID calculations are done using the CPU and main memory.
[03:18] <mcurran> Would it be safe for me to remove all the broken symlinks on my system?  Including the entries for udev n' stuff...
[03:19] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr, number of threads on the ubuntu forums here is one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705004&highlight=RTL8188su
[03:19] <escott> vn, in other words the "rankings" from best to worst are real raid with an external battery supplied raid controller, then pure software raid (mdadm) and the worst is generally considered to be bios raid
[03:19] <sun_devil> Do they have a channel for linux admins ?
[03:19] <ArizonaBay> how can i play minecraft ^
[03:20] <johnnycr> Fyodorovna, thanks I was just looking at that myself when you sent it. I hadn't thought to search by chipset, I was only searching by mnfr model # before
[03:20] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr, I started with the realtk info not sure of a fix myself really.
[03:20] <shade34321> escott, here it is
[03:20] <shade34321> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/869301/
[03:21] <ArizonaBay> Can someone help me play minecraft on ubunu 11.10
[03:21] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr, All I can do is point and say hey it's elvis and then run. :)
[03:21] <shade34321> it's on the bottom, put the entire log just in case i missed something...I don't understand the part about finding the screens but none of a usuable configuration
[03:21] <sun_devil> Can I open a zip and then read it in the vi editor?
[03:22] <escott> shade34321, its like it never saw the monitor
[03:22] <sun_devil> escott, Can I open a zip and then read it in the vi editor?
[03:22] <aibo_U_> haha, just wanted to say: bumblebee worked! thank you escott!
[03:22] <johnnycr> Fyodorovna, well that's a good lead I'm giving it a shot right now
[03:22] <shade34321> escott, right but it's displaying on something, I do have a KVM switch do you think that may be messing with it?
[03:23] <escott> aibo_U_, there may be a replacement package for bumblebee one of the two recently switched names don't know if it was bb or vgaswitcheroo
[03:23] <escott> shade34321, absolutely
[03:23] <escott> shade34321, with a KVM you probably want to hardcode your modelines
[03:23] <aibo_U_> escott: I'm just very happy it finaly works :D
[03:24] <shade34321> escott, what do you mean? I did have it working with no setup using fedora and opensuse, just prefer ubuntu over those two so reinstalling
[03:24] <nsadmin> ok, I booted into my 11.something
[03:24] <nsadmin> .10
[03:25] <escott> shade34321, modesetting is changing a lot in recent versions of ubuntu. so having something like a kvm (which is probably a vga kvm) means your edid information is all kinds of exciting
[03:25] <nsadmin> how can I try unity? shouild I make sure my video is supported first (firmware? correct driver?)
[03:25] <CFHowlett> ArizonaBay   https://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/how-to-install-minecraft-in-ubuntu/
[03:25] <StevenX> et.net
[03:26] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, do you see a panel on the left of the screen?
[03:26] <mcurran> I have a cheapass little kvm cable connector by iogear I tried to use, but it won't let my wiress mouse use a USB to PS/2 adapter...
[03:26] <vn> escott: thanks for the precision, now looking for a tutorial on how to setup a madm
[03:26] <escott> sun_devil, sure unzip and then open the file in vi?
[03:26] <nsadmin> no, panels are top and bottom
[03:26] <johnnycr> Fyodorovna, I DL'd the firmware from the forum link to USB but when I plug the USB into my linux system the file doesn't show up.  What's that about?
[03:26] <shade34321> escott, lol. I was having problems earlier and their suggestion was nomodeset in /etc/default/grub should I use that again or should I do something different?
[03:26] <nsadmin> gimme abt 5 mins... dryer is calling...
[03:26] <Fyodorovna> johnnycr, NOt sure to be honest I have no experience in this area really.
[03:27] <escott> !raid | vn
[03:27] <mcurran> Do you think if you enable your onboard video within BIOS, and use PCIE GPU as main video adapter, you could define the second one within xorg and retain functionality of both (like say with CUDA, and if their both nvidia, for ex.)
[03:27] <johnnycr> anyone know why I can't see a .gz file on my usb drive?
[03:27] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, this a install or a live cd?
[03:27] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: How are you trying to "see" it?
[03:27] <nsadmin> it's an install onto my 2 tb esata enclosure/drive
[03:28] <mcurran> this is the behavior for windows, but i can't seem to have my onboard detected while using PCIE card
[03:28] <escott> shade34321, nomodeset means that you dont want the kernel to do modesetting, and just dump out the dumb modeless vga terminal (hence the low resolution console text). X11 still needs to find a modeline
[03:28] <johnnycr> Jordan_U, not in the terminal, just the GUI file browser
[03:28] <nsadmin> my internal has win7 and debian 6.04
[03:28] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, how about a screenshot of the desktop in imagebin.
[03:28] <escott> shade34321, and X11 can't see your monitor behind the kvm so it cant find a modeline and doesn't start
[03:28] <nsadmin> (and the grub that boots em all)
[03:29] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: Where is this .gz file? Can you see other files in the same directory? How do you know that the file is actually there?
[03:29] <shade34321> escott, ok
[03:29] <mcurran> johnncr, is the .gz file on the usb, or are you referring to a file that's on a live environment usb, where the live env. is mounting itself elsewhere (other folder or partition) on the usb...
[03:29] <nsadmin> wait, this isn't 11.10, it's telling me I can upgrade to that
[03:30] <nsadmin> sec, dryer still calling
[03:30] <johnnycr> I know it's there because I put it in there on my windows PC, and I do see other files in there
[03:30] <mcurran> did you try "ls -a"?
[03:30] <johnnycr> I can see the file in terminal
[03:31] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: What is the filename?
[03:31] <ab2tractly> control + h?
[03:31] <sun_devil> escott, what command would you use,  I tried upzip it gave a paragraph about central filename version?
[03:31] <johnnycr> rtl8192sfw.bin.gz
[03:31] <johnnycr> I would like to move it to the desktop, how can I do that from the terminal?
[03:31] <escott> sun_devil, i just do unzip filename.zip
[03:31] <ab2tractly> johnnycr is it hidden
[03:31] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, sounds like 11.04 that has the fallback desktop installed. Run a update and upgrade then look in additional drivers for any driveers. You can choose unity from the login and see if it works after all that.
[03:31] <johnnycr> I have the file browser selected to show hidden files, so I don't think it is
[03:31] <mcurran> cp <filename> <destination>
[03:31] <johnnycr> mcurran, thanks
[03:32] <mcurran> so your usb is probably in /media/
[03:32] <mcurran> cp /media/USBvolume/file.gz /home/<username>/Desktop/
[03:32] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: Can you pastebin terminal output of "ls /path/to/dir/containing/file/" and a screenshot of the file browser showing the same dir?
[03:33] <johnnycr> Jordan_U, let me try a few things first
[03:33] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, make sure you exactly identify the actual version installed, 10.04 I think has a update to 11.04 as well since 11.04 was the first unity desktop release.
[03:34] <shade34321> escott, I've connected it directly to a monitor and it booted to the login screen. Now it's hangin after I type in my password
[03:35] <escott> shade34321, probably an issue with the graphics driver. you could try logging into unity-2d
[03:35] <tomnewmann> Hey, can anyone share a good basic security tutorial for Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS?
[03:36] <escott> shade34321, the fact that you got to login means that X is now seeing the necessary edid information (ie your kvm was not passing it through). so you could either buy a different kvm or just hardcode the modeline in an xorg.conf file
[03:36] <Fyodorovna> tomnewmann, there is a security thread at the ubuntu forums that is a good start
[03:37] <shade34321> escott, where can I find a tutorial on how to hardcode this...and logging in with 2d worked
[03:37] <sun_devil> escott,itgives me a warning of file.zip used backslashes as path separaters.  replace file with filestuff.....yes,no,all, none ?
[03:37] <Deihmos> is a simple switchable graphics possible in ubuntu?
[03:38] <escott> Deihmos, bumblebee and vgaswitcheroo are the main projects (although one has a new name, dont recall which)
[03:38] <johnnycr> alright, I tried the directions posted here and still not getting any internet connection http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705004
[03:38] <Deihmos> i saw that but just too many steps
[03:38] <escott> sun_devil, sounds like it is asking if you want to replace a file in that folder with the one in the zip
[03:39] <escott> Deihmos, its not well supported, its all very experimental. if it works great if it doesnt that not surprising
[03:40] <nsadmin> ok, back. looks like I was confused... it says "welcome to 11.10, would you like to upgrade"
[03:40] <Deihmos> if i could figure out how to disable the discrete graphics card and use intel that would be good. Cannot find anything
[03:40] <escott> shade34321, xorg has a configuration tool (xorg -configure) which will generate the base xorg.conf file and there are modeline generators that you can find online
[03:40] <escott> Deihmos, it would be in the bios if its possible on your hardware
[03:41] <Deihmos> bios has no option. this is a laptop
[03:43] <Troller> So guys I wanna make a live USB stick ubuntu bootable
[03:43] <Troller> I have a CD here
[03:43] <Troller> just copy the stuff from the cd to the usb stick?
[03:43] <CFHowlett> Troller   startup disk creator
[03:44] <alien2050> Troller: unetbootin is your friend
[03:44] <nsadmin> Troller, don't you have a cd drive?
[03:44] <Troller> nsadmin yes
[03:45] <Troller> but ive been said that I need to use a usb stick cuz i wanna install some nvidia drivers on it
[03:45] <Troller> to test my gpu
[03:45] <nsadmin> why not boot the cd from the drive :)
[03:45] <Troller> im downloading a linux live usb creator
[03:45] <nsadmin> why not install ubuntu, then deal with the drivers?
[03:45] <nsadmin> might be easier... I dunno that for sure tho
[03:45] <Troller> yeah me too
[03:46] <Troller> im totally begginer
[03:46] <johnnycr> I just ran into a problem in the terminal... I tried the bash command "make" and it says "the program 'make' is currently not installed"
[03:46] <johnnycr> how can I fix that?
[03:46] <omegalimit> hello, I seem to be unable to install anything from ubuntu software center or elsewhere on my Ubuntu rigs; I keep getting a "Failed to download package files. Check your internet connection" error. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[03:46] <mcurran> you need to install configure-debian
[03:46] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: What are you actually trying to install?
[03:46] <nsadmin> are you ircing from the machine you will install onto?
[03:46] <mcurran> or build-essential
[03:47] <johnnycr> I'm trying this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1636939&page=2
[03:47] <mcurran> omegalimit, check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:47] <nsadmin> troller, are you ircing from the machine you will install onto?
[03:47] <Troller> yes
[03:48] <Troller> apparently ubuntu isnt compatible with the linux live stick
[03:48] <Troller> -_-
[03:48] <nsadmin> hmm. do you have another machine you can irc from while you install?
[03:48] <omegalimit> mcurran: What am I looking for?
[03:48] <Troller> nsadmin yeah actually
[03:48] <Troller> but i wanna try this usb trick first
[03:48] <Troller> cuz all i want really its just to test my gpu
[03:48] <nsadmin> if you were to come here and then do your install, you can get play-by-play help
[03:49] <Troller> nice
[03:49] <Troller> well im gonna see if this works
[03:49] <mcurran> I would try to ping the entries, but only if you've added some other than default.  Did you try "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get install -f"?
[03:49] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screensaver activated
[03:49] <Troller> if it not im gonna install it
[03:49] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: Are you prepared to re-install Ubuntu if while trying to compile drivers from source you break something beyond your knowlage to fix?
[03:49] <nsadmin> instead of "Here is how to to it" (you see 453 pages worth of stuff) AAARRERGGGH!
[03:49] <CFHowlett> Troller   you gotta be joking.  We usually boot the usb live.
[03:49] <CFHowlett> Troller   never mind.  response to old message
[03:50] <johnnycr> yea, I haven't done anything so I have no files to lose
[03:50] <mcurran> I have my sound get messed up, when I have audio playing online, and then the system calls on audio, for an alert or anything.  So either pulse or alsa is messing up, when dealing with both...  Anyone know how to fix that?
[03:50] <johnnycr> this is already a fresh install with no data on the HD
[03:50] <nsadmin> how can I tell what I currently have installed? like, which ubuntu
[03:50] <CFHowlett> nsadmin   lsb_release -a
[03:50] <mcurran> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:51] <omegalimit> mcurran: tried those, still not working :(
[03:51] <mcurran> or uname -a
[03:51] <nsadmin> thanks
[03:51] <sgithens> rk
[03:51] <ChrisGagnon> I am using an ubuntu live usb key, but there is no tty on tty2-6 does anyone know what file I modify to start a terminal session there? so I can ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a terminal?
[03:51] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, run cat /etc/apt sources.list in the terminal and look at the list
[03:51] <Jordan_U> johnnycr: Then "sudo apt-get install build-essential" might help.
[03:52] <Troller> CFHowlett im getting usb universal installer
[03:52] <dr_willis> ChrisGagnon:  check /etc/init/tty#.conf  files
[03:52] <Troller> cuz the linux live usb creator doesnt support ubuntu apparently
[03:52] <CFHowlett> Troller   unetbootin
[03:52] <johnnycr> I got "package is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[03:52] <nsadmin> thanks; I seem to be running 11.04
[03:52] <ChrisGagnon> dr_willis: thanks I'll take a look there :)
[03:53] <dr_willis> ChrisGagnon:  theres some command you can run to start one up. that conf file would show it
[03:53]  * nsadmin pounces on sudo... go AWAY!
[03:54] <ChrisGagnon> dr_willis: that's exactly what I am looking for :) thanks!
[03:55] <nsadmin> so it looks like "aptitude install unity" is installing lotsa stuff
[03:56] <nsadmin> and so, I need the x server to have DRM enabled, yes?
[03:56] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, if you hadthe ubuntu-desktop installed you had unity
[03:56] <nsadmin> probabbly didn't had that then :)
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, was this a netinstall?
[03:57] <nsadmin> I may have installed and then removed it
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> ah
[03:57] <nsadmin> the install was months ago :) I don't remember :)
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, hard to remove fully withoutbthe full package list though
[03:57] <nsadmin> but I remember my user and root passwords :)
[03:58] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, root password?
[03:58] <nsadmin> yep.
[03:58] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, you set a root password?
[03:58] <Troller> nsadmin its downloading the virtual box now
[03:58] <Troller> 10%
[03:58] <dr_willis> oh the humanity! ;)
[03:58] <Fyodorovna> dr_willis, lol
[03:59] <nsadmin> I won't get into that unless you ask (ok, you asked, yes. I've been running root logins since like the beginning of time :)
[03:59] <Troller> :)
[03:59] <Fyodorovna> nsadmin, you just lost a your creds here. :)
[04:00] <fgera> hey
[04:00] <nsadmin> not something I recommend for everyone... but if you are an expert at the shell and you are always careful, it's not bad... for example, I ran my first linuxes as root for two years straight
[04:01] <fgera> is nvidia useless with ubuntu?
[04:01] <dr_willis> bad habbits are hard to break
[04:01] <dr_willis> fgera:  my nvidia works great
[04:01] <nsadmin> but good hobbits can be named Bilbo@
[04:01] <fgera> bee working on it for some hours
[04:01] <fgera> couldn't solve the issue
[04:02] <fgera> been*
[04:02] <Troller> dr_willis can i test some games with it?
[04:02] <nsadmin> anyway, don't worry about me on that point, I'm good :)
[04:02] <dr_willis> Troller:  huh?
[04:02] <fgera> dr_willis, what drivers are u using?
[04:02] <Troller> dr_willis ubuntu with nvidia
[04:02] <dr_willis> fgera:  the ones from the repos
[04:02] <nsadmin> but now, I've installed unity... to see it, should I just restart my session?
[04:02] <Troller> try to run some games with it
[04:02] <Troller> cuz i wanna test if my gpu is fucked or not...
[04:03] <dr_willis> Troller:  all sorts of games for ubuntu
[04:03] <marcuspbaird> hey guys installed ubuntu beta 1 12.04 but not running wel lso just install gnome shell
[04:03] <fgera> dr_willis, what's your grafic card?
[04:03] <marcuspbaird> how can we tell if ati cards are installed
[04:04] <dr_willis> fgera:  got 3 different nvidia machines. from a 6600 to an 8800gtsxxx and a newer one i forget what it has
[04:04] <dr_willis> marcuspbaird:  check lspci  output
[04:04] <nsadmin> dr_willis, you're right, it's not for the faint of heart or especially shell beginners
[04:05] <fgera> dr_willis, I've a fx 5600 but ubuntu don't like it, so he won't recognize it
[04:05] <marcuspbaird> check over my head insput   ?
[04:05] <deadmund> insput
[04:06] <Antoniete> hi, how to make install ubuntu firewall?
[04:06] <dr_willis> Antoniete:  ones allready included
[04:07] <dr_willis> !firewall
[04:07] <nsadmin> here's my xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869345/
[04:07] <Antoniete> tks dr_willis
[04:08] <Antoniete> algum brasileiro aqui?
[04:08] <fgera> portugues, mas principiante
[04:08] <Blue1> !portugese | fgera
[04:08] <Antoniete> fgera principiante?
[04:08] <chillpill_>  Translation (pt|en): | Fgera
[04:09] <Antoniete> LOL
[04:09] <Blue1> !pu
[04:09] <Blue1> ahh what is the country code?
[04:09] <sappoancms> how are you today
[04:09] <Antoniete> uehauheahuaeuheauhe
[04:10] <nsadmin> pt or br
[04:10] <fgera> http://translate.google.com.br/#pt|en|principiante%0A
[04:11] <nsadmin> pt for pure portugese, or br for brasilian portugese
[04:11] <sappoancms> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService
[04:11] <Antoniete> Does Vpn of this of me possess, django to install of the pitão and of twirling of nginx of the necessary, did this of make of already of somebody?
[04:11] <Blue1> !pt
[04:12] <Blue1> bingo!
[04:12] <Antoniete> django + python + nginx
[04:12] <fgera> there's a #ubuntu-pt also
[04:13] <Blue1> sometimes I can tell korean from chinese --
[04:13] <dr_willis> sometimes i cant understand english... ;)
[04:13] <nsadmin> Antoniete, I'm sorry, and at first glance the grammar of your post is a little hard to understand... maybe it was made by a translate service?
[04:13]  * Blue1 stands in line behind dr_willis
[04:14] <Antoniete> yeap
[04:15] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screensaver activated
[04:15] <maum> does anyone know this issue?
[04:15] <Blue1> maum: i think that's perfectly normal.  ru running reg. screensaver or x-screensaver
[04:15] <nsadmin> lots of times, when I looked it my X log it would say "Direct Rendering enabled"... I don't see that with x.org, what would it say for fglrx to state it's working?
[04:16] <nsadmin> no lines with the word direct (but several with directory)
[04:16] <maum> Blue1: ? if the screen is locked, the sound player doesn't work
[04:16] <Blue1> maum: sound like it might be a power management issue.
[04:17] <dr_willis> or a security feature
[04:17] <Blue1> maum: what sound player ru referring to, btw?
[04:17] <maum> Blue1: sorry, the sound player is still running and I cannot hear the sound.
[04:17] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[04:17] <ponrajuganesh> how to uninstall tcl in my system with the terminal
[04:17] <maum> Blue1: audacious
[04:17] <dr_willis> ponrajuganesh:  why do you need to?
[04:18] <ssshvb> Hello my child window  always above the parent. i mean  if i activate parent window  i can see the child window   i wanna  change it   to way   when i activate the parent window  the child going to under the perent
[04:18] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove packagenames
[04:18] <ponrajuganesh> because I need to install expect which is only for tcl8.3 -- but what I have got is tcl8.5
[04:18] <dr_willis> 8.3 is in the repos?
[04:19] <celthunder> ssshvb: what app/ui
[04:19] <ssshvb>  gnome
[04:19] <ssshvb> gnome classic 2d
[04:19] <dr_willis> !info expect
[04:21] <ponrajuganesh> dr_willis when I do a remove it says so
[04:21] <ponrajuganesh> http://pastebin.com/88QZcfQU
[04:21] <ponrajuganesh> what could be the fault
[04:22] <ponrajuganesh> got it dr_willis
[04:22] <ponrajuganesh> :) thanks
[04:23] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screen is locked. I use audacious sound player and it was still running though the screen is locked. I want to hear the sound although the screen is locked. how can I do?
[04:24] <Ronin_> hello everyone
[04:25] <Fyodorovna> Guest91704, hello use a nic that is easy to complete.
[04:25] <Blue1> thanks cox
[04:26] <KushTime> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu 11.10 x64 on two machines. First machine I installed PacketTracer 5.3.3. i386 no problem. Second machine it will not run the program but installed PacketTracer fine, I can not seem to uninstall it, and when I run the program it just does not run
[04:26] <Fyodorovna> !pm | Guest91704
[04:27] <Troller> man is ubuntu the best linux for me to use
[04:27] <Troller> to test my gpu?
[04:27] <Troller> i just tried to use a live usb stick
[04:27] <Troller> but it openeed mem test instead
[04:27] <Troller> so im gonna dl another iso
[04:27] <KushTime> Troller, probably not, but it doesn't work so hot with ati cards, just nvidia
[04:27] <maum> I cannot hear sound when screen is locked. I use audacious sound player and it was still running though the screen is locked. I want to hear the sound although the screen is locked. how can I do?
[04:27] <Troller> KushTime what should i get instead?
[04:28] <KushTime> to benchmark your gpu?
[04:28] <nsadmin> hmm, thats exactly what I have too... well, I'll try anyway
[04:28] <Troller> KushTime i wanna see if the drivers work
[04:28] <Troller> cuz the drivers are fucking the windows 7 boot
[04:28] <KushTime> Troller, oh, yeah then ubuntu is the best bet, but it works better with nvidia cards
[04:28] <Troller> so i wanna see if any problem happen
[04:28] <Troller> KushTime yeah it is nvidia
[04:28] <pangolin> Troller: Please mind your language
[04:28] <Fyodorovna> !language >  Troller
[04:28] <Troller> k
[04:29] <Troller> sorry
[04:29] <Ronin10101> ok sorry bout the pm was trying to figure out how to change my nick...
[04:29] <Ronin10101> can someone point me in the right direction for installing ubuntu on my computer
[04:29] <Ronin10101> i just bricked it by trying to update it
[04:30] <Ronin10101> i dont have access to cds or a flash drive so im using an ipod in disc mode
[04:30] <Fyodorovna> Ronin10101, do you have any other OS on it now and if so name them and the release name
[04:30] <Ronin10101> uh
[04:30] <Ronin10101> well its difficult because i have at least 2 ubuntu systems on it
[04:30] <Fyodorovna> such as XP, vista, W7...etc
[04:30] <Ronin10101> both are broken
[04:31] <Ronin10101> i have ubuntu 11.04 and kubuntu 10.04\
[04:31] <Troller> KushTime should i get 64 bit or 32 bit?
[04:31] <Ronin10101> but kubuntu is 64bit
[04:31] <Ronin10101> and thats not my architecture
[04:31] <Troller> my computer is not old btw
[04:31] <KushTime> Troller, that depends on your architecture support and ram you want to utilize
[04:31] <Troller> im using win 7 64 bit
[04:31] <Troller> gtx 570
[04:31] <KushTime> then get 64 bit
[04:31] <Troller> new hardware..
[04:31] <Troller> kk thanks
[04:31] <Ronin10101> for some reason my 64but os was only one to work before i bricked it
[04:32] <Ronin10101> because i broke my 32 bit install first
[04:32] <Troller> well this will take half an hour
[04:32] <Troller> >_<
[04:32] <Ronin10101> i have like 10 partitions at least...
[04:32] <Ronin10101> so installing in a fresh one will be no problem
[04:32] <Ronin10101> just need to figure out how to load disk image from my ipod in bios
[04:32] <Ronin10101> i installed using unetbootin
[04:33] <fgera> hey
[04:33] <fgera> im trying to install nvidia drivers directly from nvidia site
[04:33] <fgera> but I can't open the downloaded driver
[04:33] <fgera> any idea?
[04:33] <Fyodorovna> fgera, did you try the ubuntu install first, the sites will not follow you well.
[04:33] <celthunder> fgera: chmod x
[04:34] <Ronin10101> the reason my current install is bricked is because x cannot find the right protocol
[04:34] <fgera> Fyodorovna, I did. I've been working on this for some hours now
[04:34] <Fyodorovna> fgera, ah.
[04:34] <celthunder> fgera: what happens when you try to run it
[04:35] <fgera> celthunder, I can't run it
[04:35] <athit> Hi,
[04:35] <celthunder> Ronin10101: x not working isnt a brick a brick is when you wreck to an unfixable point
[04:35] <fgera> if I double clikc on the download transfer item it dosen't run also
[04:35] <ab2tractly> fgera you cant run software center?
[04:36] <Ronin10101> celthunder theres a lot more wrong than that i believe
[04:36] <celthunder> fgera: chmod +x file then run it
[04:36] <Ronin10101> the entire system is wrong architecture
[04:36] <Ronin10101> i think it only worked because of some lucky errors
[04:36] <celthunder> Ronin10101: then how did you install it
[04:36] <Ronin10101> i have no idea
[04:36] <celthunder> wrong arch wont even boot
[04:36] <Ronin10101> shoulkdt boot
[04:36] <celthunder> itd fail loading the kernel
[04:36] <Ronin10101> celthunder shouldnt boot
[04:36] <Ronin10101> but it did
[04:37] <Ronin10101> its a moot point
[04:37] <Ronin10101> its a failure
[04:37] <Ronin10101> i have a 32 bit system that i used for the longest
[04:37] <fgera> hmm
[04:37] <Ronin10101> heresa the question im in initramfs how can i load the unetbootin entry off of my ipod
[04:38] <celthunder> fgera: whats the error when you run the installer it doesnt run doesnt help much
[04:38] <Ronin10101> initramfs commands really stump me
[04:38] <Ronin10101> thats why i am stuck
[04:39] <celthunder> Ronin10101: is your ipod fs available even from that point
[04:39] <fgera> it says the file does not exist
[04:39] <Ronin10101> i booted to my ipod in bios
[04:39] <Ronin10101> but then it loaded grub
[04:39] <kylesum> is there a seperate channel for test release discussion i.e. 12.04?
[04:39] <Ronin10101> and it wasnt listed
[04:39] <ab2tractly> fgera try  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:39] <nsadmin> #ubuntu-next?
[04:39] <mobile> sup!
[04:39] <kylesum> thanks i'll have a look.
[04:39] <celthunder> fgera: go to terminal type sh fileyouwanttorun or ./file
[04:39] <nsadmin> soup!
[04:40] <celthunder> ab2tractly: i think he wanted to install from nvidia site for whatever reason
[04:40] <Ronin10101> celthunder, my ipod was listed in the bios, it is functioning as an external hard drive, how can i find its init file location
[04:41] <nsadmin> hm. I'll play with this thing later... driving to marin to play some music!
[04:41] <celthunder> Ronin10101: i suck once in initramfs id boot to it from grub and fix the install in a chroot
[04:42] <Ronin10101> cekthunder: ok ive got to grub2 entry but i dont know how to add a new entry correctly
[04:42] <Ronin10101> *cell
[04:42] <roasted_> Is there some sort of text editor in Ubuntu that will look at two documents and highlight the areas that are different? I'm trying to compare config files I think are corrupt and having this functionality would be very useful.
[04:43] <fgera> ab2tractly, I've done most of what is told in this thread
[04:43] <celthunder> Ronin10101: just edit the current one putting your ipods kernel and rootfs in place of the one defaulted
[04:43] <Ronin10101> ok
[04:43] <Ronin10101> how do i find the kernel and rootfs
[04:43] <fgera> celthunder, I've downloaded it but I can't open it, with sh, chmod + or /file
[04:43] <Ronin10101> some sort of ls command?
[04:43] <fgera> ab2tractly, I've done most of what is told in this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/68220/system-wont-boot-with-nvidia-driver-enabled
[04:44] <kylesum> roasted_: must it be an editor or have you tried the 'diff' command?
[04:44] <celthunder> fgera: .... right arch?
[04:44] <ab2tractly> fgera oh it wont boot
[04:44] <celthunder> Ronin10101: hd(drive. partition)
[04:44] <Ronin10101> thanks
[04:45] <fgera> ab2tractly, celthunder, if I double clikc on it I get a blank window and nothing happens
[04:46] <celthunder> fgera: first off WHY are you trying to install it with x running
[04:46] <celthunder> thats asking for a crash
[04:46] <roasted_> kylesum, what will diff do?
[04:47] <escott> roasted_, meld is a popular visual diff but gvimdiff also works well
[04:47] <fgera> celthunder, I've been trying everything before. I've trying all the ubuntu drivers and removed xorg.conf
[04:47] <roasted_> escott, I just found an app called diffuse - ever hear o fit?
[04:48] <escott> roasted_, no
[04:48] <roasted_> escott, have you by chance used system-config-samba?
[04:48] <escott> roasted_, no
[04:48] <fgera> celthunder, I've done this http://paste.ubuntu.com/869373/
[04:49] <fgera> celthunder, the better I got was 1024x768 resolution
[04:50] <fgera> celthunder, but still could not get my grafic card regonized by ubuntu
[04:50] <celthunder> fgera: ok.  so all you get is file not found the installer is the right arch it shows up in ls and you made sure x wasnt running when you tried to install it
[04:50] <celthunder> fgera: what card do you have
[04:50] <celthunder> hi escott
[04:51] <fgera> celthunder, an old one: asus v9560 geforce fx5600
[04:52] <celthunder> are the old fx even covered in the newor proprietary modules
[04:52] <celthunder> anyway are all the above statements true?
[04:52] <roasted_> Anybody know why system-config-samba would be crashing on startup? It crashes every time without error...
[04:53] <celthunder> roasted_: anything in the logs
[04:53] <roasted_> celthunder, nothing.
[04:53] <roasted_> celthunder, syslog populates nothing at all when the issue occurs
[04:53] <celthunder> does it crash or give an error if you start it manually
[04:54] <roasted_> celthunder, no crash, no error. just asks for password. I put password in, it disappears, and nothing else happens.
[04:54] <celthunder> also is there a debug mode or something to set the log level higher i dont use samba but im assuming there is
[04:54] <roasted_> no idea :/
[04:57] <ab2tractly> roasted_ you know there are logs specifically for samba right?
[04:59] <Ronin10101> celthunder: Should I install grub to my ipod to make this easier? my brain hurts
[04:59] <roasted_> ab2tractly, would logs from system-config-samba be applied to samba logs, though?
[04:59] <escott> Ronin10101, i'm not sure that grub can boot a usb device. i dont think the bios makes it availabe
[04:59] <Ronin10101> damn
[04:59] <escott> Ronin10101, im pretty sure you need to put the bootloader on the usb device
[04:59] <Ronin10101> can i install it directly on my ipod and use it like a live cd?
[05:00] <Ronin10101> ok
[05:00] <Ronin10101> should i use grub2
[05:00] <escott> Ronin10101, that may not be a normal boot though it might need to be a cd style boot
[05:00] <Ronin10101> ok thanks i have a few more things to try now then
[05:00] <dr_willis> im not sure you can boot from an ipod
[05:01] <escott> Ronin10101, so try putting the bootloader on the usb device if that doesn't work look at unetbootin
[05:01] <Ronin10101> im using unetbootin atm
[05:01] <Ronin10101> i just cant figure out how to make an entry
[05:01] <Ronin10101> in my computers grub
[05:02] <escott> Ronin10101, there shouldnt be an entry. the bios should directly boot the unetbootin device
[05:02] <Ronin10101> yeah
[05:02] <escott> Ronin10101, not all bioses support usb devices
[05:02] <Ronin10101> then i dont think ipods load correctly
[05:02] <dr_willis> grub2 can boot an iso file
[05:02] <Ronin10101> my bios recognized it when in disk mode
[05:02] <escott> Ronin10101, but its not a usb-mass-storage unless you have changed the firmware on the ipod (AFAIK)
[05:03] <Ronin10101> i formatted it and blanked it out right before this.  Id use a flash drive but i dont have one and i found a 150 gb classic ipod.,..,
[05:03] <escott> dr_willis, can grub crossload something on the usb bus. i thought the bios needed to enumerate those devices
[05:03] <savid> Has anyone here successfully installed windows 7 after installing Ubuntu?   Windows seems to  it be able to install on my extra partition.  It gives the error:  "windows cannot be installed to this hard disk space. The selected disk has the maximum number of partitions of this type"
[05:03] <Ronin10101> im going to try to install grub2 and the ubuntu .iso to the ipod
[05:04] <savid> ..which doesn't make sense b/c it's a gpt  drive.
[05:04] <Ronin10101> i love ubuntu i just wish commands were a little more intuitive..
[05:05] <dr_willis> how vague  ;)
[05:05] <escott> savid, does the windows installer know its working with gpt? you could setup a hybrid mbr/gpt and then install as mbr for windows. see rodsbooks.com
[05:06] <thilina> xubuntu
[05:06] <escott> savid, if you have enough space at the front of the disk and the partitions are correctly positioned that might be the easiest setup
[05:06] <savid> Escort, I really have no clue.   I only just learned what gpt meant :-P
[05:07] <savid> escott  *
[05:07] <escott> savid, can you tell me what the partition layout is and where the first partition begins?
[05:08] <Ronin10101> is grub 1.98 regular grub or is it count as grub 2
[05:08] <escott> Ronin10101, grub2 i though ubuntu was up to 1.99 these days
[05:08] <Ronin10101> im sure it is
[05:08] <Ronin10101> =P
[05:09] <savid> escott, Well, that's the weird part.  In Linux I have my gpt partition, swap, root, and unallocated.   But windows installer sees an extra 0byte partition at the beginning.
[05:09] <escott> savid, is this an efi system? i notice you dont have a grub_bios partition
[05:10] <escott> savid, and what type is the 0byte partition
[05:10] <Ronin10101> how would i find my ipod(external hard drive) uuid
[05:11] <escott> Ronin10101, sudo blkid
[05:11] <Ronin10101> thanks
[05:11] <Ronin10101> grub doesnt recognize sudo or blkid is there a command i can use from grub
[05:11] <fgera> escott, I've rebooted but still can't open the file
[05:11] <newer> how to install fvwm
[05:11] <newer> ?
[05:12] <escott> fgera, what file? sorry dont remember this conversation
[05:12] <savid> escott,  well, that's another thing I'm not sure of.   I had Ubuntu installed normally (bios),  but had an empty fat partition in front in case i needed it later.  I then installed windows,  but in order to recover grub, I learned I had to set up that first partition as bios_grub
[05:12] <fgera> escott, nvidia driver
[05:12] <fgera> escott, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31-pkg1.run
[05:13] <savid> escott, but now windows partition won't show up again so I'm trying to install it again
[05:13] <escott> fgera, im not sure i was talking to you earlier. i think it was someone else. generally i would not recommend installing through anything but jockey
[05:13] <savid> (Sorry, typing is slow on a tablet)
[05:13] <roasted_> Anybody out there using system-config-samba to manage Samba shares? It seems to be crashing on me on my 11.10 install. No error at all, it just flat out doesn't come up, even with a re-install...
[05:14] <escott> savid, ok. so you have a bios system. you dont have a efi partition instead you have a bios_grub
[05:14] <savid> escott, yes it appears so.
[05:15] <makoy-08> ghost makoy hanku16
[05:15] <Ronin10101> what command lists all partitions in grub2
[05:15] <Ronin10101> i cant find it in documentation
[05:16] <escott> savid, here is how i would recommend setting things up: efi partition beginning at 1mb (yes you aren't efi but this may avoid some issues) 100mb, windows partition (you pick the size), bios_grub, ubuntu
[05:16] <escott> savid, sorry efi should be 100mb (per spec IIRC)
[05:16] <savid> escott, so...  I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[05:16] <escott> savid, actually holdon let me reread the relevant section of the docs
[05:17] <savid> OK, thx
[05:17] <berevgia> i have ubuntu 10.04, my wireless only works if i previously execute: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart, if not i get wrong password error. I use wicd. Any idea on how to fix that? i found out about installing an old version of wicd 1.6.
[05:18] <Troller> at the Set a persistent file size to store changes
[05:18] <Troller> Can I put as much as I want?
[05:18] <Troller> i have 3.137gb
[05:18] <athit> Hi,
[05:18] <Troller> universal usb installer btw..
[05:18] <Troller> trying to boot ubuntu from the usb
[05:19] <fgera> escott, sorry then. I'm trying to get the nvidia driver working. 1- I've tried all the ubuntu drivers. 2- removed all nvidia drivers. 3- removed, reinstalled and re-configured xorg.conf. 4- tried again the "additional drivers" from ubuntu. 5- also run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-pae. 6- could not open the nvidia driver file directly downloaded from nvidia site
[05:19] <escott> savid, Overall, hybrid MBRs should be avoided. I've included support for them in GPT fdisk only because certain popular OSes (read: Microsoft Windows, at least through Windows 7) can't boot from GPT disks on BIOS-based computers.
[05:19] <roasted_> Anybody out there using system-config-samba to manage Samba shares? It seems to be crashing on me on my 11.10 install. No error at all, it just flat out doesn't come up, even with a re-install...
[05:20] <celthunder> Ronin10101: why would that make it easier
[05:20] <escott> savid, thats why the windows installer is all confused. it wants to install an efi bootloader, but it cant because you have no efi partition
[05:21] <savid> escott, here's what windows installer currently shows: http://imgur.com/COFvn
[05:21] <savid> escort, can I trick it into thinking that my first partition is efi?
[05:22] <savid> escott *
[05:22] <mcurran> I have both these processors and I was wondering if I should swap out the x2 220 for the older phenom 9150e, anyone have a suggestion?  http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Compare/Products?SearchFacets=&SearchTerms=x2+250&LowestPrice=&HighestPrice=&SortBy=&id=ADX220OCK22GM&id=HD9150ODJ4BGH
[05:22] <zhjawe_> hello,my mldonkey disconnected and display "Stopping MLDonkey: mlnetNo process in pidfile '/var/run/mldonkey/mlnet.pid' found running; none killed." when I want to restart server.  when i want to stop mldonkey server
[05:22] <savid> (Stupid autocorrect)
[05:22] <escott> savid, its no good you have to go hybrid is my understanding
[05:22] <ab2tractly> roasted_ the reviews under ubuntu software center suggest installing python-glade2
[05:22] <savid> escott, what do you mean by hybrid?
[05:23] <zhjawe_> what reason about the error?
[05:23] <escott> savid, this means you will have an mbr partition and a gpt partition table. the mbr will look somewhat like the gpt, and windows will boot thinking it is mbr, but ubuntu will see the gpt and do things correctly
[05:23] <escott> savid, windows will not be able to access anything beyond the 2TB mbr limit
[05:23] <Analana> Hi boys!
[05:23] <stercor> I can't start apache.  Something else is listening on port 80.  How do I find out what it is?  #httpd sent me here.
[05:23] <tazjin> Can I configure a VPN so that it only routes the traffic of certain applications?
[05:24] <Flannel> stercor: It's probably apache.
[05:24] <ab2tractly> stercor sudo netstat -tulp
[05:24] <Analana> Can I install Ubuntu on my mobile phone?
[05:24] <savid> escott, don't I already have an mbr partition?
[05:24] <Flannel> stercor: When you install apache with the package manager, it starts automatically.
[05:24] <stercor> Flannel: ps ax | grep httpd reveals nothing.
[05:24] <escott> savid, the mbr partition table will look like: 0xEE (gpt partition beginning in sector 2 to protect the gpt structures and the gpt partition) and running up to the beginning of the windows partition. then the windows partition, and then if there is anything after the windows but less than 2TiB that needs another protective partition (or it shows as unallocated)
[05:25] <Flannel> stercor: you can check with ... try grep apache
[05:25] <escott> savid, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html
[05:25] <Analana> Ubuntu have it edition? For phones?
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> Analana: android? there may be hope
[05:25] <zhjawe_> hello,my mldonkey disconnected and display "Stopping MLDonkey: mlnetNo process in pidfile '/var/run/mldonkey/mlnet.pid' found running; none killed." when I want to restart server.
[05:25] <Analana> no just Nokia
[05:25] <thetrav> I have ssh access to a desktop which is running a gui, but I don't have keyboard & monitor attached.  How do I set up desktop sharing for that gui session via the console?
[05:25] <escott> savid, you may have some kind of mbr but its out of sync with the proper gpt partition table
[05:25] <savid> escott, not sure where I would see "0xEE"...
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> Analana: probably not without huge amounts of hacking, unless this is a tablet type phone
[05:26] <stercor> Flannel: That's what it is... Thankd@
[05:26] <escott> savid, you would see it in gdisk
[05:26] <Flannel> stercor: check with "service status apache"
[05:26] <stercor> /d@/s!/
[05:26] <savid> ugh.  when did partitioning get so complicated.  it used to be so simple.
[05:26] <Flannel> stercor: er, I guess it's probably apache2.
[05:26] <savid> escott, not sure what gdisk is.  i generally use gparted.
[05:26] <escott> savid, welcome to the hell that is the mbr/gpt and bios/efi transition
[05:26] <savid> escott, it is a fresh hell.
[05:27] <Analana> Ubuntu have phone edition now?
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> Analana: why anyway? you would need something close 1ghz to get even a remotely tolerable experience, unless you want linux in general
[05:27] <escott> savid, so lets just lay out how we want to do it, and then i can leave you with some instructions to implement
[05:27] <escott> savid, i need to know how big the disk is and how much space you want to allocate to windows/ubuntu
[05:27] <savid> escott, ok.  it's a 750GB disk.  I want roughly equal space for ubuntu/windows.
[05:28] <ab2tractly> they are coming out with a ubuntu/android phone
[05:28] <Analana> Ubuntu have low edition. Who will fast work on phones?
[05:28] <escott> savid, in that case why are you using gpt?
[05:28] <savid> escott, I thought I had no choice :-P
[05:28] <escott> savid, its less than 2TiB you can and should use mbr
[05:28] <savid> escott,  so how do I *not* use GPT
[05:29] <savid> escott, when I originally partitioned the drive I just used gparted.
[05:29] <jnockels> Hi, is this the right channel to be in to ask for help with ubuntu? I have done something stupid and cant fix it
[05:29] <chromaticwt> is there a command to report bugs?
[05:29] <escott> savid, boot the livecd, install gdisk, then use gdisk to create a hybrid and tell it you want to save all partitions except the grub_bios partition. then delete the gpt partition that will switch you to pure mbr. at that point you can do a grub-install
[05:29] <chromaticwt> I'm testing 12.04
[05:29] <TuneChi> If i try installing ubuntu from pc and not from a disc will it work?
[05:30] <escott> savid, which will put grub in the mbr instead of in the grub_bios and you shouldn't lose any data
[05:30] <Analana> Hi all! My name is Ana and i like ...
[05:30] <escott> !precise | chromaticwt
[05:31] <fgera> escott, I've rebooted. not sure if you answred me last time. could you retype it if you did?
[05:31] <savid> escott, and "use gdisk to create a hybrid" is straight-forward?  not sure exactly what that entails, unless you're talking about just selecting an option called "hybrid" somewhere...
[05:31] <Analana> Hi all! My name is Ana and i like ...
[05:31] <escott> savid, this is assuming you have a bios system (so make sure thats correct)
[05:31] <escott> fgera, im sorry but im not the person who was/is helping you with nvidia
[05:31] <Analana> escott,?
[05:31] <fgera> escott, your great anyway. :) thanks
[05:31] <savid> escott, it's a macbook pro, if that tells you anything   :-P
[05:32] <Analana> np
[05:32] <escott> savid, ohhh then it is efi
[05:32] <savid> escott,  yeah but I don't think I installed ubuntu in EFI mode
[05:32] <escott> savid, are you using bootcamp? or did you remove osx
[05:32] <Analana> escott, you is nerd?
[05:32] <savid> escott, removed OSX.  it broke after I installed ubuntu but I didn't need it.
[05:33] <Analana> escott, Do you have a girlfriend?
[05:33] <savid> escott, I eventually wiped the whole drive and started fresh
[05:33] <TuneChi> Ubuntu does not want to install on my pc it says connot locate disc image files. Why?
[05:33] <roasted_> yay. fixed samba gui http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869247&highlight=samba+gui
[05:33] <Analana> escott, or she have you?
[05:33] <bazhang> !ot | Analana
[05:33] <escott> savid, i would imagine you are better off using OSX and bootcamp
[05:34] <chiques_> anyone have an idea why when I install Compiz Fusion my desktop goes to crap? I loose my 11.10 menu and all I see is my wall paper and some standard window menu
[05:34] <Analana> oh ok
[05:34] <Analana> i have question
[05:34] <Analana> Hi all! My name is Ana and i like ...
[05:34] <Analana> oops
[05:34] <escott> savid, while people (like you) have successfully gotten ubuntu to boot on efi macs, im not sure if thats true of windows
[05:34] <savid> escott, I'm just using the mac bootloader.  it's been working well enough for now
[05:34] <bazhang> Analana, this is NOT the chat channel
[05:34] <Analana> HEEEEELP!!!????
[05:34] <Analana> how no?
[05:34] <Analana> we all chatting here...
[05:35] <bazhang> Analana, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat. this channel is ubuntu support only
just a guess but i oesn't have write permission just del the .dot files and relogin
[05:35] <TuneChi> What should i do?
[05:35] <escott> savid, I would think the best thing to do is go ahead and use a small amount of space 10gb or so to install OSX and then setup bootcamp to boot everything else
[05:35] <Analana> bazhang, We can go private ...
[05:35] <chiques_> insmod, Where are the .dot files? In my home folder?
[05:35] <prajosh> I have some wifi related questions
[05:36] <bazhang> Analana, ---->  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <savid> escott, unfortunately my macbook didn't come with physical install media.  I think I have to go buy it now.
[05:36] <escott> savid, that way you will have OSX to rescue the system/update firmware/etc with whatever support apple provides
[05:36] <Analana> But i have question here
[05:36] <prajosh> my wifi card doesnot connect to hidden network
[05:36] <Analana> About Ubuntu
[05:36] <escott> savid, borrow it from somebody. you already paid for it when you bought the system
that means hidden files use midnight commante or slocate etc
[05:36] <szal> Analana: then ask & stick to the topic
[05:37] <savid> yeah, I guess I'd have had to do that eventually.   this thing has been a pain in my rear, wishing I'd stuck w/ a pc.  I just liked that sexy macbook hardware ;-)
[05:37] <chiques_> insmod, I know how to show hidden files but I don't see anything labeled ".dot" in my /home folder
[05:37] <savid> I just wish I could make it simple like back in the old days :-P
[05:38] <escott> savid, its just a big can of worms because osx while being efi is not fully compliant with the efi spec (see mathew garretts blog)
[05:38] <Analana> Can i install Ubuntu on my mobile vibrator?
[05:38] <mosno> what's with the deja dup notification on gnome shell? it's unreadable
[05:38] <escott> savid, and then windows support for efi is very limited and new. you can ask around/check online, maybe you can get windows to boot efi directly
 i ment dot as in hidden look in .gconf .Gnome2 etc ell just get rid of them all then login
[05:38] <icedtea> lol
[05:39] <icedtea> another troll bites the dust
[05:41] <escott> savid, i did find one blog saying they were able to get windows 7 to boot directly on apple efi, so it might be possible, but it sounds like you have some weird setup going on where maybe you tried to use bootcamp to install ubuntu (ie why do you have a grub_bios partition)
[05:42] <savid> escott,  I don't think I ever used bootcamp for anything
[05:42] <escott> savid, so what grub did you end up installing? because if you had a true efi boot you would have had to have installed grub-efi. and you would not have a grub_bios partition
[05:44] <savid> escott,  I just used the ubuntu installer to repartition the drive.   I don't think I ever was able to do a true EFI boot.   At one point someone told me to make a fat32 partition for EFI, and that ubuntu would automatically use that for EFI boot, but it never did.  so I ended up with that partition just being empty up front.
[05:44] <savid> escott, when I installed windows,  I had to recover grub,  and grub wouldn't let me install unless I had a grub_boot partition.
[05:44] <escott> savid, so thats the efi partition which is required as part of the efi spec, but osx doesn't use it the way the spec says its supposed to use it
[05:44] <savid> so that's what I used my empty fat32 partition for.
[05:45] <savid> escott, but I don't even use OSX any more, so it shouldn't matter, right?
[05:46] <escott> savid, and you would have to install the efi version of grub which would put all its files in that fat partition. you have something else going on (i dont know what exactly) my guess is that you have a bios grub installed somewhere?? and the osx efi implementation is noticing that and doing the bootcamp bios emulation for you to chainload grub
[05:46] <Jordan_U> escott: savid: With intel macs it's recommended that you *not* boot via EFI.
[05:47] <Troller> can anyone help me? I wanna install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 11.10 64 bit
[05:47] <axisys> i am faling to login to my desktop . after I put my password it returns me back to login.. using ubuntu 11.10 64bit with default unity
[05:47] <Troller> but im totally linux begginer
[05:47] <escott> savid, so my guess is that you are using bootcamp without knowing it, but i dont know for sure. long and short if you just install osx, and use bootcamp you can boot both windows and ubuntu without much difficulty
[05:47] <savid> escott, but again, I don't have osx nor have I used bootcamp
[05:47] <axisys> any suggestion how to reset ?
[05:47] <Troller> can someone point me in the right direction?
[05:47] <savid> escott, unless I'm misunderstanding what bootcamp is
[05:48] <escott> savid, bootcamp is just a bios emulation layer implemented in efi together with a nice gui in the osx system
[05:48] <szal> !nvidia | Troller
[05:48] <Fyodorovna> axisys, this a fresh install and or  is the password not working
[05:48] <Troller> ubottu:  thanks
[05:48] <escott> savid, so it makes your efi system look like a nice normal mbr pc_bios system which can boot windows easily
[05:48] <axisys> Fyodorovna: password works on F1 window.. this is not fresh install
[05:49] <savid> escott, if it's worth anything, this is how parted sees my partition scheme:   http://dpaste.com/711745/
[05:49] <axisys> Fyodorovna: in other ttys that is..e.g Alt+Ctl+F1
[05:49] <escott> savid, and my guess is that the gui in osx is just a luxury and that somehow you got the bootcamp drivers to automatically detect the mbr stuff and boot that way
[05:49] <axisys> i think i need to reset the unity ?
[05:49] <axisys> Fyodorovna: ^
[05:50] <Jordan_U> savid: What problem are you having exactly?
[05:50] <Fyodorovna> axisys, you can't boot to the desktop from the tty or a recovery kernel?
[05:50] <savid> escott, I'm just not sure how I would have used bootcamp for anything when I completely nuked OSX
[05:50] <axisys> Fyodorovna: i can login fine from non gui terminals
[05:50] <Fyodorovna> !fsck
[05:51] <savid> Jordan_U,  I'm trying to get windows installed on here after having installed ubuntu.   It's a long story,  I'll try and rehash it for you if you're willing to help :)
[05:51] <escott> savid, thats assuming that bootcamp needs the osx stuff to work. if i were implementing bootcamp i would just have an efi driver that scans the partition table and enables bios emulation for anything that is not OSX
[05:51] <axisys> Fyodorovna: that was for me?
[05:51] <escott> savid, and if thats how apple implemented it then you are using bootcamp, you just dont know it
[05:52] <savid> escott, so is the thing that pops up when I hold down the option key during boot what you're referring to as bootcamp?  I thought that was something different...  At least, I had read that was different.
[05:52] <Jordan_U> savid: escott: I gernally consider "Boot Camp" to be the set of utilities in OSX which resizes partitions, creates an ugly "hybrid" mbr, and a Windows driver CD. There is also the BIOS implementation which is separate. I don't know what's officially considered "Boot Camp" by Apple, but those are two very different things.
[05:52] <Fyodorovna> axisys, this is not a real strong area for me, you might give some background on what has led you to this for the channels helpers.
[05:52] <Troller> szal:  so easy man
[05:52] <Troller> thanks a lot
[05:53] <savid> I'm SO confused.
[05:53] <Troller> its downloading the stuff
[05:53] <Troller> :)
[05:53] <escott> savid, in any case you will not be able to boot windows with the current layout, because you dont have an efi partition. you could shrink the bios_grub (it can be as small as 1mb) and make the newely freed space into efi partition and maybe that would make windows happy
[05:53] <Meikat> I'm having a bit of an issue with sound on my HP mini 1010nr.  I've been using Ubuntu on it for nearly a year.  This install of 10.10 is probably 5 months old and has worked flawlessly until last night.  The headphone jack (it's a single 3.5 jack that handles line in and line out) is no longer working for output, only input.  However, when I plug something in (mouse, headphones, or headset) the speakers disable, so I can't hear anythi
[05:53] <Meikat> *mouse = mic
[05:54] <savid> escott, how do I make windows "think" that the new partition is an EFI partition?  Is there a special flag for EFI?
[05:54] <axisys> my laptop went down since there was no power. when power came back, I can login fine to non gui ttys.. but not unity/gnome.. the default desktop environment.. which is tty7 for me
[05:54] <escott> Jordan_U, ok so it does use a hybrid. fun. im just thinking in terms of the bootloader and the bios emulation. i think savid is using that without knowing it
[05:54] <Jordan_U> escott: That is incorrect. An EFI System Partition will not help savid boot Windows in any way. Windows doesn't support Apple's EFI.
[05:54] <axisys> how do I reset the unity.. should I remove the .gnome2 ?
[05:54] <savid> hah, yeah, I'm doing a lot of stuff without knowing what I'm doing.   I
[05:55] <axisys> and .gconf ?
[05:55] <escott> Jordan_U, I saw some bloggers saying they had done it. i've been recommending that savid reinstall osx and use bootcamp directly
[05:55] <Jordan_U> escott: Savid is definitely using Apple's BIOS impletementation to boot Ubuntu. And that's the best way to go.
[05:55] <iriwbo> How can I check which package is being used for playing flash content in web browsers?
[05:55] <savid> Jordan_U,  is there a way I could install windows and then use GRUB to boot windows?
[05:55] <axisys> in the past there used to be a gnome-cleanup like tool to fix this
[05:55] <escott> savid, the problem you have is that your disk is gpt and must be gpt because you system is efi
[05:56] <escott> savid, but you want to do a bios boot for windows, and windows does not support bios/gpt boots
[05:56] <Jordan_U> escott: No, savid's disk does not need to use GPT.
[05:56] <savid> escott,  so EFI is a hardware thing?
[05:56] <escott> Jordan_U, if he doesnt want OSX he can dump the gpt entirely?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> escott: Correct. That is what I was going to recommend for Windows compatability.
[05:57] <savid> ...which probably means I'd have to reinstall ubuntu.
[05:57] <escott> Jordan_U, ok wouldn't have thought that was safe. but ill leave him to you then. crazy hardware
[05:57] <Troller> so with ubuntu i cant access my windows 7 folder?
[05:57] <Troller> because its ntfs?
[05:57] <escott> Troller, you should be able to. make sure ntfs-3g is installed
[05:57] <Troller> also what game could i install to test out my gpu?
[05:58] <Troller> that is a rather recent game
[05:58] <savid> Jordan_U,  is it possible to do what you're saying without having to start from scratch?
[05:58] <Troller> with cool graphics and physics...
[05:58] <Troller> escott:  thanks
[05:58] <Jordan_U> savid: Do you have all important data backed up? There is a low risk of data loss when converting GPT to msdos, but you should have important files backed up anyway :)
[05:58] <Troller> now i gotta figure out how to navigate in explorer here
[05:58] <Troller> haha
[05:58] <Jordan_U> savid: Yes.
[05:58] <savid> Jordan_U, this is my current layout: http://dpaste.com/711745/
[05:58] <savid> Jordan_U, yes, I have important stuff backed up.
[05:59] <funky_c> Hey everyone - just loaded up the latest ubuntu for a server and noticed accounts-daemon was taking up ~100 Mb of memory. Anyone know what that is / if I need it? Not finding useful info on the net.
[06:00] <Troller> anyone recommend me some games??
[06:00] <Troller> i wanna test my gpu
[06:00] <Troller> with nvidia drive
[06:00] <Jordan_U> savid: Then I would recommend that you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, delete the BIOS Boot Partition (labeled bios_grub), convert to an msdos parititon table, re-install grub to test that Ubuntu still boots, resize your Ubuntu partition to make room for Windows, install Windows, then re-install grub again (as the Windows install will have clobbered it).
[06:01] <savid> Jordan_U, ok, how do I convert to an msdos partition table?  does gparted have an option for that?
[06:01] <Jordan_U> savid: GParted does not, but gdisk (GPT Fdisk) does.
[06:01] <savid> Ah, ok.
[06:02] <annath> Is there any way in Ubuntu (11.10 with nvidia graphics and drivers installed) to make multiple monitors work more smoothly? At present if I connect to a second monitor I have to manually go to the nvidia settings and set it to twinview, and I have to remember to disable when done(if I just unplug it, Ubuntu doesn't seem to know it's gone and allows me to lose stuff by placing it on the second screen)? If I try to use the Dis
[06:02] <annath> plays settings dialog it doesn't even detect that I have a second monitor plugged in.
[06:02] <savid> Jordan_U, Ok, thanks.  I'll try that tomorrow I guess.  getting to late to dive into it more tonight.
[06:02] <savid> escott, Jordan_U,  thanks a bunch for the help.  much appreciated.
[06:02] <funky_c> Anyone know if i can get rid of accounts-daemon on my web server box (Oneric)?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> savid: OK. The important documentation is http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[06:04] <Meikat> Is there a way to view, and undo, rollback, or uninstall recent updates in ubuntu 10.4?  I'm having a sound issue since an update the other night, and I can't figure it out or find any info on it.
[06:04] <savid> cool.  thank you.
[06:04] <Jordan_U> savid: You're welcome.
[06:05] <annath> Oh and if it makes a difference I am using gnome shell and not unity
[06:05] <Troller> is unigine engine benchmark
[06:05] <Troller> a good software for me to test my gpu?
[06:05] <Troller> on ubuntu
[06:06] <Troller> anyone have a better recomendation?
[06:07] <treshoem> I am connecting to a freenx server that did not shutdown gracefully, The connection keeps terminating. Any idea what file I should delete to restore my session?
[06:08] <makoy> what's your gpu Troller?
[06:08] <Troller> makoy:  its a gtx 570
[06:09] <makoy> @Troller not really sure but as far as i know you can use the CUDA benchmarks
[06:10] <Troller> makoy:  k thanks
[06:10] <makoy> @troller :D
[06:11] <funky_c> Anyone know a good place to find out about the services running on my ubuntu box?
[06:11] <Aucun> You mean the processes?
[06:12] <CFHowlett> funky_c   ps -x
[06:12] <funky_c> CFHowlett: Sorry, meant more generally. There's a service running and I want to ditch it. Don't know what it does.
[06:12] <funky_c> It's called "accounts-daemon" -- it's taking up ~100 mb of ram on my economy server.
[06:13] <CFHowlett> funky_c   kill by PID usually works ...
[06:13] <funky_c> C
[06:13] <axisys> Fyodorovna: it is fixed.. rvm broke my profile and /etc/profile .. i found out from .xsession-errors file
[06:13] <hammommah> /{username}:{password}@192.168.1.50/hammo\040wine /home/hammo/sambashares/wine, uid=1000, gid=117 0 0 how do i get this to work in fstab?
[06:13] <funky_c> CFHowlett: Totally. But I want to make sure I'm not killing anything important.
[06:13] <CFHowlett> funky_c   wait 1 I saved a process identifier somewhere ...
[06:14] <CFHowlett> see http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[06:14] <CFHowlett> not quite what you described I guess
[06:15] <funky_c> CFHowlett: Thanks though. Have any other ideas?
[06:15] <cancer> Hi, Can anyone help me installing Sound drivers?
[06:15] <plouffe> Where can you see what services are started at boot?
[06:16] <Fyodorovna> axisys, cool, glad you fihured it out. :)
[06:16] <Fyodorovna> figured*
[06:17] <CFHowlett> Troller   see http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions/GPUs
[06:17] <Troller> CFHowlett:  thanks man
[06:17] <Troller> i just installed nvidia drivers
[06:17] <Troller> and i gotta reboot now
 u were right that i shoul be thinking of installing .tar.gz not the requirement !
[06:18] <Troller> how do i do it?
[06:18] <CFHowlett> Troller   sudo reboot
[06:18] <Troller> CFHowlett:  thanks!
[06:18] <Troller> brb, I hope..
[06:18] <Troller> hehe
[06:20] <mi3> Hello!
[06:20] <CFHowlett> mi3   greetings
[06:21] <plouffe> funky_c, does this help https://anonir.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/ubuntu-lucid-disable-services-from-starting-during-boot/ ?
[06:22] <mi3> I would like to add an animation to the my background such that the animation is on top of that background, it should not replace my background, also, I should be able to move that animation anywhere on my desktop, any suggestions?
[06:22] <CFHowlett> mi3   you mean like an applet?
[06:23] <mi3> sort of CFHowlett
[06:23] <CFHowlett> unity applet?
[06:23] <iriwbo> How can I check which package is being used for playing flash content in web browsers?
[06:23] <Jordan_U> mi3: What is your end goal? What would this animation actually be?
[06:23] <SiriHack> this server have a hostserv ?
[06:23] <funky_c> plouffe: It does. I guess I want to know whether or not permanently stopping "accounts-daemon" is an okay thing to do.
[06:24] <funky_c> Like, what service am I giving up?
[06:24] <mi3> Jordan_U I have created animations from cod mw3 [by taking snapshots and I have resized the animation to size 500x381 pixels
[06:24] <CFHowlett> mi3   never done it, but I'd suggest you build the image and research how you can add it to unity.
[06:24] <bazhang> SiriHack, ircd questions on #freenode please
[06:25] <SiriHack> ahh, one track mine thing
[06:25] <mi3> CFHowlett I am an old timer[sort of] I dont use unity I use gnome classic with no effects, however I can start compiz if someone tells me to
[06:25] <SiriHack> gotcha
[06:25] <cancer> Hi, Can anyone help me installing Sound drivers?
[06:26] <CFHowlett> mi3   even better.  Check the gnome applet source codes ... "fish" or "eyes" maybe...
[06:26] <Troller> lol
[06:26] <Troller> installed the drivers
[06:26] <Troller> and now ubunto wont boot anymore
[06:26] <Troller> anyone ever seen this happen?
[06:27] <mi3> ohh I dont know how to use those source codes[ actually i dont know how to compile] CFHowlett can you give me some details into it?
[06:27] <CFHowlett> mi3 okay, do the animation, ask @ gnome.org or #gnome
[06:28] <metaspike> mi3, it's usually open a terminal in the source directory, ./configure && make
[06:28] <plouffe> funky_c, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/postlfs/accountsservice.html
[06:28] <mi3> CFHowlett the animation  is ready, the gnome channel is on this server?
[06:28] <CFHowlett> mi3   wait one ...
[06:29] <cancer> Hi, Can anyone help me installing Sound drivers?
[06:29] <funky_c> plouffe: Read something like that, but I'm not smart enough to understand the description. ;) You get a gist of what that means / how it's used by Ubuntu?
[06:29] <funky_c> plouffe: Thanks, btw.
[06:29] <CFHowlett> mi3 #gnome is on freenode
[06:29] <mi3> metaspike I know that atleast but there are many dependencies [which i get tired installing them] so I am used to downloading deb files from trusted sources
[06:30] <mi3> CFHowlett, irc.freenode.net or chat.freenode.net?
[06:30] <cancer> CFHowlett: How to install Sound drivers?
[06:30] <CFHowlett> mi3  either I would think...
[06:30] <metaspike> cancer, sound drivers? you sure? try alsamixer, F6 - look for your soundcard or something like: dmesg | grep sound - in terminal
[06:30] <saju_m> getting error while installing python-xen-3.3 : Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[06:30] <mi3> ok and what is the port number?6607? CFHowlett?
[06:31] <saju_m> have any way to fix this ?
[06:31] <CFHowlett> cancer never had a problem with mine so can't really help.  sorry.
[06:32] <mi3> which port CFHowlett?
[06:32] <CFHowlett> mi3 looking in teh header now....
[06:32] <vn> if I'm setting a software RAID on a Linux install, where do I specify my mount points, on the RAID md# devices or the sdX# devices?
[06:32] <mi3> hey wait i got it its in the network list itself[i use xchat] although the channel name is not mentioned, let me add to it CFHowlett
[06:33] <CFHowlett> mi3  alright...
[06:33] <saju_m> have any way to fix this ?
[06:33] <mi3> ok I logged in thanks CFHowlett
[06:33] <saju_m> getting error while installing python-xen-3.3 : Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[06:33] <metaspike> saju_m, if you're running experiemntal, this happens, you can use a proper dpkg system like aptitude and install with - sudo aptitude install python-xen - then go through the avaliable options to hold your current version of python or preform various other forms of dark majick
[06:33] <CFHowlett> mi3 have fun / be safe
[06:34] <mi3> thanks for the advice, Colonel
[06:34] <mi3> hehe
[06:34] <metaspike> vn don't know? are you using the alternate installer?
[06:36] <cancer_> metaspike:
[06:36] <vn> metaspike: no, server one
[06:37] <dr_willis> the server cd uses the alt. installer. the text based ibstallee. i belive
[06:37] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   correct
[06:38] <santoshfamily> during update , in one release it is written " Network isn't available " . Why this is occuring ?
[06:38] <metaspike> vn, seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[06:38] <vn> metaspike: I'm on it, thx :)
[06:38] <cancer_> metaspike: i used those commands in terminal(Kubuntu), i don't understand what to do?
[06:39] <mi3> hey guys, is a computer, whose uptime is less than 24 hours, really , can be called a server?
[06:39] <BuckyBall> mi3, that would depend on what it is employed to do. Does it have a monitor?
[06:39] <dr_willis> a server   serves... uptime doesnt matter
[06:39] <cancer_> Please Help.
[06:40] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   plaque worthy statement you made "A server - serves."
[06:40] <mi3> BuckyBall, i am just asking, I dont really have a server.
[06:40] <BuckyBall> As dr-willis says, if it serves, it's a server, regardless of whether you switch it off every night ...
[06:40] <mi3> ohh thanks
[06:40] <vn> metaspike: nice, that's exactly what I needed
[06:41] <metaspike>  cancer, enter  'alsamixer' into termina > accessories,  if it retuns an 80's looking audio mixer with big, rasta bars your good to go, left right up down, play some music. otherwise, enter " dmesg | grep sound" to the terminal, and paste the output to pastebin.com or similar and link here so we can have a look :)
[06:41] <metaspike> accesories* > terminal  ^_^
[06:41] <BuckyBall> By the way, hi all! First time on here and first time I've used IRC in years. Just set up Chatzilla in Firefox and just like the old days. MIRC on a Mac ... ;)
[06:41] <mi3> hmm
[06:45] <Fyodorovna> BuckyBall, your nic is familiar from the irc must have been another channel.
[06:45] <Troller> BLACK screen on boot
[06:45] <Troller> computer apparently frozen
[06:45] <Troller> what can i do?!
[06:46] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:46] <venon> hey how i install windowss paralel ubuntu
[06:46] <Fyodorovna> venon, you have an unallocated area?
[06:47] <venon> Fyodorovna i dont hink virtual box
[06:47] <venon> *think
[06:47] <Fyodorovna> venon, you want it on the main HD or vitual?
[06:48] <Fyodorovna> virtual*
[06:48] <dr_willis> i think we need a clearer question
[06:48] <venon> on hd
[06:48] <dearpx> hello =)
[06:49] <Fyodorovna> venon, do you have a are for it that does not have a partition or a NTFS partition already?
[06:49] <Fyodorovna> area*
[06:49] <venon> Fyodorovna Thats the problem
[06:50] <venon> just ubuntu ext4
[06:51] <colinjohn> could someone help me figure out why my CUPS stops working after its been running for about 10 minutes? "printing" window gives me the error including the words "server-error-service-unavailable". or might this be a better forum question? the problem has not been terrible but it is annoying
[06:51] <Fyodorovna> venon, can you take a screen shot of the HD with gparted and put it in imagebin and post the url?
[06:51] <venon_> so ?
[06:52] <cancer_> metaspike: there appears a mixer with "alsamixer". i used up,down,left&right keys to adjust.... but still no effect. the other command won't show anything .
[06:53] <metaspike> in alsamixer push f6
[06:53] <Fyodorovna> venon, if you can give us a screen shot it will cut down the questions here that really are not being answered.
[06:53] <metaspike> incase your card is secondary (it happens)
[06:53] <cancer_> metaspike: i did. F6 and it bring up mixer properties
[06:54] <venon_> ok so now i go off
[06:54] <venon_> later
[06:54] <cancer_> metaspike: i used directional keys ..... nothing happen after adustment of bars while i played some Audio file
[06:56] <peepsalot> how can i force a package install ignoring broken dependencies?
[06:56] <metaspike> cancer_, so does it have your soundcards name? ps. M to unmute.
[06:56] <scientes> when will systemd be packaged?
[06:57] <scientes> after 12.04?
[06:57] <metaspike> peep from the repository?
[06:57] <parapan> init: unable to spawn plymouth main process / unable to spawn hwclock main process .....does someone have any clue what's with those errors ? is there a HDD failure ???
[06:57] <metaspike> peepsalot, apt-get --ignore-missing *packagename*
[06:58] <metaspike> peepsalot, apt-get --ignore-missing install *packagename*     - rather
[06:58] <cancer_> metaspike: their is MM written under some bars and other have 00 under them. What does it means?
[06:59] <metaspike> MM   means mute, 00 means, unmute... for left and right channels respectively.
[06:59] <cancer_> metaspike: ok i did them all 00. thanks. now testing audio again.
[07:00] <cancer_> metaspike: Card: Intel ICH5
[07:01] <cancer_> metaspike: Chip: Analog Devices AD1981B
[07:01] <icedtea> is there a launchpad channel?
[07:02] <CFHowlett> parapan the error msg referenced your hardware clock, not HDD.
[07:02] <MrHarptastic> Hey guys
[07:02] <CFHowlett> MrHarptastic greetings
[07:03] <parapan> CFHowlett:
[07:03] <metaspike> cancer_, the chipset is well supported, but apparently there are some quircks read: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/AD1981B
[07:03] <MrHarptastic> Is it ok to post a link I found? It revolves around compilation issues for users new to linux based systems?
[07:03] <MrHarptastic> Thought it could be of some help
[07:03] <CFHowlett> MrHarptastic sure
[07:03] <MrHarptastic> http://www.linuxtutorialblog.com/post/troubleshooting-configure-make-and-make-install-tutorial
[07:04] <CFHowlett> MrHarptastic and who is that for?
[07:04] <MrHarptastic> I've seen a few asking for this kind of stuff today. I'm just a little late. Thought there might be some sleepers not asking the right questions..
[07:04] <MrHarptastic> know what I mean
[07:05] <parapan> CFHowlett: there are multiple reasons ....laptop is DELL I run the self test and on the HDD it gives me DTS Short test failed - error code 2000-0146 which also indicates something related with the HDD...also, I've reinstalled the system twice in the last days and after last update from the apt-get the OS is broken ...
[07:05] <CFHowlett> CFHowlett time to buy a new HDD then?
[07:05] <cancer> metaspike: still no help
[07:06] <Defuera> Hey, i need a designer or illustratori
[07:06] <CFHowlett> parapan sorry mistype.  anyway, fix hardware THEN fix software
[07:06] <Defuera> Is theres some?
[07:06] <CFHowlett> Defuera state what you need done.
[07:06] <cancer> metaspike: changed MM to 00, nothing comes up with dmesg | grep sound. and there is no sound
[07:07] <Defuera> We are a team of android devs, working on a game
[07:07] <metaspike> MrHarptastic, not a bad tutorial, thanks for sharding. cancer, the page says keyboard multimedia volume controls may be independant. unfortunately there are just so many variables with this. try a simple restart, maybe some thing is hogging the audio, maybe pulseaudio is screwd, "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio" likewise maybe you need to fix pulseaudio instead "sudo apt-get --reinstall install pulseaudio" - thats all from me good luck :(
[07:08] <cancer> CFHowlett: can you please tell me how can i change theme of newly installed (Kubuntu) please, bcoz i hangs coz of it's visual effects i think and reason maybe coz there are no graphic drivers installed.
[07:08] <MrHarptastic> YW meta
[07:09] <BuckyBall> cancer, have you checked 'Additional Drivers'? (Could be 'Hardware Drivers' depending on release. You need to get online and get updates then check in there ...
[07:09] <Defuera> Its going to be finished pretty soon, but we don't have any anymation, cause our designer is a jerk..)
[07:09] <santoshfamily> during update , in one release it is written " Network isn't available " . Why this is occuring ?
[07:10] <CFHowlett> cancer yeah that might do it.  I don't run kubuntu often enough to know the answer offhand.  In ubuntu, I've had to turn off the system>preferences>appearance>visual effects
[07:10] <Biohazard> hello anyone on that can help me
[07:10] <metaspike> !ask
[07:10] <cancer> metaspike: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869463/
[07:10] <Defuera> (CFHowlet), are u a designer?
[07:11] <metaspike> Defuerai know how to bang variables together in java, does that help? :)
[07:11] <bazhang> Defuera, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[07:11] <CFHowlett> !paste>cfhowlett
[07:11] <Fyodorovna> !ot | Defuera
[07:12] <BuckyBall> Defuera, please state exactly what you want a designer/illustrator/animator to do then anyone capable will reply ...
[07:12] <Biohazard> i was told that i could have 3 partition on my server and assign user to a partition.....try to setup rutorrent so me and my friends can uses it
[07:12] <BuckyBall> !guidelines
[07:12] <Makoy__> off topic -_-
[07:12] <cancer> metaspike: http://paste.ubuntu.com/869463/
[07:13] <icedtea> anyone host anything on launchpad? can I allow users to download a tar.gz with the configure script?
[07:13] <Defuera> Ok, i'm sorry, i shouldn't ask here, just donno any designe
[07:13] <CFHowlett> parapan I checked your error on dell.  see here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/869466/
[07:13] <tripleb> hello. I am on my macbook. I am booted up on an Ubuntu liveCD and "I dont have permission" to read my drive. How can I sign in.
[07:14] <metaspike> yeah i see it, well. you can try. sudo apt-get -f purge pulseaudio && reboot   - meh
[07:14] <tripleb> I want to transfer stuffff to my ubuntu USB hard drive. (the macbook has a 72GB HD only)
[07:14] <metaspike> right now, i think pulseaudio is just one more thing to go wrong for you so get rid of it.
[07:15] <CFHowlett> Defuera lots of designers in the ubuntustudio and ubuntu multimedia forums
[07:15] <parapan> CFHowlett: I was doing the same on the user reports side ...it seems the HDD is gone little by little ....
[07:15] <Defuera> Thx, no bothering u anymore untill my ubuntu works fine)
[07:15] <Biohazard> how can i assign a user to a partiton
[07:15] <BuckyBall> Defuera lots of designers in the ubuntustudio and ubuntu multimedia forums. +1. They would be the places to go .. ;)
[07:16] <cancer> metaspike: i'll be back after restart. then i'll ask for how to get rid of mentioned item.:)
[07:16] <parapan> choupydance: and it is the second Samsung HDD which is failing on me in the last 2 years ...:(
[07:16] <metaspike> tripleb, depends what filesystem the drive uses. chances are you will need  'sudo apt-get install xfsprogs' - check with gparted or such
[07:16] <CFHowlett> parapan right.  they do go bad.  be selective in replacing it - OEM if possible.
[07:18] <cancer> buckyball: when i move mouse on any tab that is minimized it brings up little box, i want to disable that. i am new in kubuntu. i reached to style -system settings. please help in this case.
[07:18] <parapan> CFHowlett: the original one was from Seagate ...but to small 200 Gb that's why I went for Samsung which has at that time 500 Gb .....now I only hope I can save all my datas from the bad hdd
[07:18] <metaspike> Biohazard, you mean grant a user permissions to use a partion?  sudo chown -hR biohazard:biohazard /media/mountpoint - be careful with chown though, or just use gnome- right click mount point> permission bleh.
[07:20] <Guest50021> ?
[07:20] <Guest50021> why
[07:21] <Guest50021> i can not change my nickname
[07:25] <geirha> Guest50021: Ask #freenode for help with that.
[07:25] <Guest50021> yes,sir!
[07:25] <freezer> good morning
[07:25] <Guest50021> hi!
[07:25] <Guest50021> how are you?
[07:25] <cancer> geirha: what we call menu bar of kubuntu like in windows
[07:25] <CFHowlett> freezer  greetings
[07:26] <freezer> Guest50021, fine and you?
[07:26] <Guest50021> yes!!
[07:26] <Guest50021> fine!!
[07:26] <freezer> great!!
[07:26] <Guest50021> thanks!
[07:27] <cancer> freezer: what we call menu bar of kubuntu like in windows.
[07:27] <cancer> freezer: when i move mouse on any tab that is minimized it brings up little box, i want to disable that. i am new in kubuntu. i reached to style -system settings. please help in this case.
[07:27] <freezer> cancer, never used KDE extensively, sorry
[07:28] <Guest50021> what is your Favorite desktop?
[07:28] <freezer> not sure
[07:28] <freezer> Unity seems interesting
[07:28] <freezer> been using gnome2 for a long time
[07:29] <freezer> gnome3 is nice too
[07:29] <Guest50021> i agree
[07:29] <Guest50021> what time is it now in your country?
[07:29] <metaspike> xmonad :)
[07:29] <bazhang> !ot | Guest50021 freezer
[07:30] <Guest50021> sir,yes sir!
[07:33] <Guest50021> suso apt-get update
[07:33] <Guest50021> sudo
[07:35] <Troller> is ubuntu mem test good?
[07:35] <Fyodorovna> Troller, woks fine.
[07:35] <Fyodorovna> works*
[07:35] <cancer> metaspike: still no sound?
[07:39] <athit> Hi,
[07:40] <Troller> Fyodorovna is it a stand alone test?
[07:40] <Troller> a guy just told me: <wbs_> Troller, run a stand alone test.  Otherwise, you will just fool yourself.  It is easy to download the ISO and burn a disk.  Or put on a usb stick and boot that.
[07:40] <Troller> when i said i was thinking about ubuntu mem test
[07:40] <Troller> he is recommending mem ttest 86
[07:41] <Fyodorovna> Troller, using the live cd is the only one I know of that one is.
[07:43] <Troller> Fyodorovna k thanks
[07:43] <Fyodorovna> Troller, the test is run from the first gui seen on the live cd tapp the shift when booting it to make sure that gui shows.
[07:44] <Fyodorovna> tap repeatedly or hold down the shift, Troller  no problem.
[07:50] <pnorman> I'm looking to install the google web font font collection and was looking for a PPA with no success. Is there a way to do it, and keep it up to date?
[07:53] <BlueWolf> Hello :D
[07:54] <Troller> :D
[07:55] <Gallomimia> just did update on my server. what does this mean?
[07:55] <Gallomimia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/869492/
[07:56] <Fyodorovna> pnorman, I found this check it closely and use at your own risk. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/automatically-install-all-google-web.html
[07:56] <pnorman> Fyodorovna: The problem is keeping them up to date
[07:57] <snow_usa> hi
[07:58] <snow_usa> the ubuntu 11.10  on my laptop requires almost 3 minutes to connect to a wireless network
[07:58] <snow_usa> could anyone give me a hint where to look at ?
[07:59] <Justin`> can anyone please link me to the default /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[07:59] <Fyodorovna> pnorman, not really a u8buntu support issue though, just a heads up. :)
[07:59] <Fyodorovna> ubuntu*
[07:59] <snow_usa> it's on a thinkpad
[08:00] <parapan> ?
[08:00] <Gallomimia> can someone tell me what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/869492/
[08:00] <pnorman> Fyodorovna: No different then looking for any other program
[08:00] <reesk92> how do i manaully add a application into the applications menu in ubuntu 11.10
[08:01] <MrHarptastic> oh hostname, how I wish you would do what I tell you.. like a small child....
[08:02] <Fyodorovna> pnorman, personally I don't care, but this is third party.
[08:02] <pnorman> So is most software
[08:03] <Fyodorovna> pnorman, even ppa's are not supported here, but your skull seems rather thick so this is just a waste of time.
[08:03] <pnorman> !guidelines | Fyodorovna
[08:04] <MrHarptastic> Reesk92: When you install the app it should ask you if you want to add it to the menu. Unless you are compiling. that's a little different
[08:04] <reesk92> the app has no installer its stand alone
[08:04] <reesk92> you just etract it and click the app to run it
[08:05] <MrHarptastic> try dragging it onto the bar?
[08:05] <dr_willis> !info alacarte
[08:05] <KM0201> dr_willis: does alacarte still work w/ unity?
[08:05] <Gallomimia> i need help with some upgrade error
[08:06] <dr_willis> no idea. i dont saee why it wouldent
[08:06] <dr_willis>  the .desktop standard is the same
[08:06] <athit> How to connect Stonegate ipsac vpn.?
[08:07] <reesk92> no that dosent work in previous versions i could do it though system>preferences>applications now i cant cause the applications window is gone
[08:08] <MrHarptastic> athit: try this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1330934865894&ved=0CEcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stonesoft.com%2Fexport%2Fdownload%2Fsg_man_archive%2FStoneGate_VPN_Client_Users_Guide_v5-1.pdf&ei=SXRUT9HnA8z9sQLHmfzvBQ&usg=AFQjCNGwnrUccRXov5F5KXFheUAErYrr0A&sig2=tx1sNWuk2qthhVJFux8Tpw
[08:08] <dr_willis> you could always make a  proper .desktop file for the app.
[08:08] <MrHarptastic> pardon the google stuff...lol
[08:09] <MrHarptastic> PDF for stonegate client user guide
[08:09] <reesk92> how do i do that
[08:09] <pasti> THE NEXT THREE DAYS
[08:09] <dr_willis> every menu app had a matching .desktop file..  ie:    gedit.desktop   copy it, edit it as needed
[08:10] <dr_willis> alacarte just makes one in the proper dir in the users home
[08:10] <reesk92> where do i find theese . desktop files
[08:11] <dr_willis> locate foo.desktop   there literally 100's of them
[08:11] <karthick87> How to remove all the firefox shortcuts in my desktop via terminal?
[08:12] <dr_willis> karthick87:  all? how many do you have?
[08:12] <athit> thank
[08:13] <MrHarptastic> athit: Was that what you needed?
[08:13] <karthick87> dr_willis: More than 12
[08:13] <dr_willis> karthick87:  your user has 12 ff icons on their desktop?
[08:14] <karthick87> dr_willis: 12 firefox shortcuts for different softwares
[08:14] <MrHarptastic> hmmm... Cheat engine compilation or Game Conqueror?
[08:15] <dr_willis> if they are on your desktop look in your Desktop directory
[08:18] <MrHarptastic> Anyone else use Xchat?
[08:18] <dr_willis> lots of people use xchat
[08:18] <MrHarptastic> I meant currently in the room, but I could see how that would apply to that..lol
[08:18] <dr_willis> !ask
[08:19] <MrHarptastic> also, that was under the sound of my "voice"
[08:20] <MrHarptastic> how do you get rid of the (join, quit, and connection info?)
[08:22] <athit> I can not connect stonegate ipsec vpn .
[08:24] <athit> How to connect stonegate ipsec vpn from ubuntu client.?
[08:25] <athit> Help me pls.
[08:25] <MrHarptastic> athit: Did you look at the link I gave you?
[08:25] <digitalknight_> hi all
[08:25] <digitalknight_> i needed some help
[08:25] <digitalknight_> i am using ubuntu
[08:25] <digitalknight_> i wanted to ask,
[08:26] <MrHarptastic> !ask
[08:26] <digitalknight_> does ubuntu have qt libraries pre installed?
[08:27] <athit> MrHarptastic : it link for windows client.
[08:27] <MrHarptastic> O_o my mistake
[08:27] <MrHarptastic> one sec
[08:29] <MrHarptastic> athit: Are you behind a firewall?
[08:31] <athit> I connect from internet.
[08:33] <ZenMaster> I have text filtering turned off for super user. I try copy'n old youtube code. Tried creating a custom html code for the iframe stuff. I can't get it itt o work. :*(
[08:34] <m4rcu5> good morning
[08:36] <m4rcu5> im trying to do a textbook example of ethernet bonding but the box and i seem to have different interpretations of the config, i set 802.3ad the resuld is normal round-robin mode (http://pastebin.com/4f7pYUw5), what am i doing wrong here?
[08:38] <alkisg> How can I get a list of all packages whose name ends in -ng, from the command line?
[08:38] <alkisg> (not-installed ones too)
[08:39] <zdfx> hola !
[08:39] <alkisg> Ah got it, apt-cache -n search .*-ng$
[08:39] <zdfx> Hi .
[08:40] <zdfx> WTF're u ?
[08:40] <zdfx> i don't know that !
[08:41] <zdfx> hh
[08:42] <beatboxhero> Hey guys. How do i kill a process in ubuntu? Skype froze on me and now it wont close
[08:42] <KM0201> beatboxhero: you can kill a process w/ system monitor
[08:43] <KM0201> if you want a GUI
[08:43] <beatboxhero> How do I get to system monitor
[08:43] <beatboxhero> I was most looking for how to kill it in terminal...just so I know how
[08:43] <beatboxhero> but I cant complain either way haha
[08:44] <KM0201> !kill
[08:44] <allu2> beatboxhero: if you want to kill graphical application i advice using command "xkill"
[08:45] <beatboxhero> I tried doing that with the PID but nothing happened...Skype is still on my top bar
[08:45] <KM0201> allu2: as with most things, there's more than one way to skin a cat
[08:45] <beatboxhero> haha
[08:45] <KM0201> you can also "killall "programname"
[08:45] <beatboxhero> did that too...nothing...
[08:45] <beatboxhero> sorry to be so difficult haha
[08:46] <allu2> KM0201: yeah but sometimes xkill may be the easiest if you open graphical program without knowing the actuall "name" of the program
[08:46] <KM0201> allu2: i don't disagree w/ that... just saying, there's usually 10 different ways to do something on Linux.
[08:46] <allu2> yeap, no denying that :)
[08:46] <beatboxhero> haha as im learning the hard way
[08:47] <KM0201> beatboxhero: and you tried to kill it via PID #?  cuz i just did it, and it worked fine
[08:48] <minixvbox> beatboxhero: if a normal kill doesn't do it, do a kill -9
[08:48] <beatboxhero> HAHA did that too! like it literally is stuck up there...
[08:48] <beatboxhero> im so bugged....screw skype haha
[08:48] <beatboxhero> I even tried to kill it with system monitor. nothing.
[08:49] <beatboxhero> and I just realized that I have no idea how to use "xkill"
[08:49] <beatboxhero> that just confused me
[08:49] <beatboxhero> select with monitor to kill using the #1?
[08:49] <minixvbox> beatboxhero: just type xkill then click the thing you want to kill
[08:49] <beatboxhero> it simply shows one x
[08:49] <beatboxhero> thats all
[08:49] <beatboxhero> hmm
[08:49] <beatboxhero> let me try again
[08:50] <FloodBot1> beatboxhero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <beatboxhero> AWESOME!
[08:50] <KM0201> minixvbox: only thing w/ that though, is he's gotta click the icon in the panel (since i don't think the program is actually open, it's just zombied in the panel)
[08:50] <KM0201> ah, well, nevermind
[08:50] <beatboxhero> i thought my interface was going to crash
[08:50] <beatboxhero> but that worked!
[08:50] <beatboxhero> thank you guys
[08:50] <FloodBot1> beatboxhero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <minixvbox> !yay | beatboxhero
[08:51] <allu2> beatboxhero: xkill did the job? :)
[08:51] <beatboxhero> yeah it did
[08:51] <beatboxhero> I just didnt know how to use it properly ha
[08:51] <allu2> :) yeah first time i used it i managed to kill terminal :P
[08:51] <beatboxhero> the whole consel freaked out for a second but then it came back
[08:52] <KM0201> lol
[08:52] <beatboxhero> haha nice
[08:52] <beatboxhero> any of you guys develop android?
[08:53] <KM0201> dont even own an android, let alone develop for one.
[08:53] <KM0201> lol
[08:53] <minixvbox> beatboxhero: this is just for ubuntu support
[08:53] <KM0201> i have an old cheap cell phone..lol
[08:53] <beatboxhero> haha dang you guys are out dated
[08:53] <Gallomimia> this is irc
[08:53] <Gallomimia> what were you expecting?
[08:53] <allu2> :D
[08:53] <MrHarptastic> true that
[08:53] <UrB> #android-dev could be more fruitful channel
[08:53] <beatboxhero> well i was just asking cuz its really difficult to impliment the SDK for android. curious if anyone had done it yet. Oh well ha.
[08:54] <beatboxhero> LOl @ Gallomimia
[08:54] <beatboxhero> thanks UrB
[08:54] <Gallomimia> wtb knowledge. wts humor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/869492/
[08:58] <MrHarptastic> Is there a way to get the side menu bar on the bottom of the screen? and possibly make the icons smaller without switching to 2d?
[09:02] <dr_willis> mth
[09:02] <minixvbox> MrHarptastic: no, the unity bar is fixed
[09:03] <dr_willis> MrHarptastic:  ccsm tool can change icon size of launcher
[09:03] <MrHarptastic> ty
[09:03] <dr_willis> hacks exist to move it down. they can be buggy
[09:05] <MrHarptastic> Minixvbox: what about this? is it worth trying? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[09:06] <MrHarptastic> clear
[09:06] <minixvbox> MrHarptastic: if you are ok with ppas, have fun, might be really buggy (but hey, so is unity)
[09:06] <MrHarptastic> lol
[09:06] <minixvbox> MrHarptastic: i use xfce, much more customisable
[09:06] <dr_willis> 12.04 is a huge step fforwaed
[09:08] <aBound> dr_willis, I agree.
[09:08] <elangog> HI
[09:09] <allu2> Hey, how do i suspend my netbook via commandline?
[09:09] <elangog> i have single quest?
[09:09] <minixvbox> elangog: do you mean request?
[09:09] <elangog> no
[09:09] <elangog> what is your question?
[09:10] <minixvbox> elangog: a quest is a mission
[09:10] <elangog> Through execute 'poweroff'
[09:18] <monser> when I try to upgrade my ubuntu it says it wants to remove my wine installation.I do not want that.Is there a way to preserve my wine installation and upgrade ubuntu?
[09:20] <minixvbox> monser: i'm not sure if pinning would work because you're upgrading so you're changing repos
[09:21] <minixvbox> !pinning | monser
[09:21] <Flannel> monser: All it's going to do is remove the wine binaries, your programs and things within wine will remain.  Once you've upgraded, just re-install wine.
[09:21] <Flannel> monser: This is likely due to the fact that you've added a third party repository for wine (such as the winehq one), which needs to be re-added for the new Ubuntu version.
[09:24] <monser> well I had problems using a windows application with wine.So I had to install specific wine files which I do not remember what they were in order to use windows application with wine.So I do not want anything about wine to be messed up.
[09:24] <MrHarptastic> Anyone else had trouble with "libnetfilter_queue" with a fresh and most recent version of ubuntu?
[09:25] <JadedJacob> I have a pentium 4 computer that has no harddrive, can I setup a ubuntu live ISO an external hard drive, install it using USB universal installer?
[09:25]  * minixvbox is amazed at the amount of people who don't remember but say its important, if it was important wouldn't you remember it?
[09:27] <JadedJacob> Obvisouly I'll use 'persistent mode'
[09:28] <monser> when I upgrade ubuntu do network drivers get updated automatically as well?
[09:29] <zabomber> test
[09:30] <Guest30415> !list
[09:30] <minixvbox> !test | zabomber
[09:30] <Jordan_U> JadedJacob: If you want a real installation, I highly recommend a standard install over a "persistent" Live install.
[09:31] <zabomber> initersting minivbox
[09:31] <zabomber> thanks for that
[09:32] <quee> !list
[09:37] <VIPER-II> good day to you all.
[09:37] <VIPER-II> Welcome to my Raid1 adventures.    (and frustrations)
[09:38] <JadedJacob> Jordan_U: ok
[09:39] <VIPER-II> I'm trying to set up a Raid1 with 2 HDDs. I'm using the Intel Storage Manager. What I'm trying to figure out is, I know that I'm supposed to use mdadm. But when i read, it looks like the raid is being set-and-controlled by Ubuntu. But my Mainboard comes with it's own "Intel Storage Manager" which usually creates the Raid1 (mirrored) for me. Anyone here has experience with this?
[09:41] <KM0201> VIPER-II: i've set up tons of software raids w/ ubuntu, but never anything like that
[09:42] <VIPER-II> ok. Then forget what i said.
[09:42] <VIPER-II> I have 2x 2Terabyte of harddisk
[09:42] <VIPER-II> I'm trying to set up Raid1(Mirrored)
[09:42] <VIPER-II> Just a simple question.... "HOW?"
[09:42] <KM0201> ok.
[09:43] <VIPER-II> My mainboard comes with it's raid-menu in which i can toggle and control which HDDs are in raid or not.
[09:43] <KM0201> are you doing your install now, or are you trying to add the raid?
[09:43] <VIPER-II> Doing the Install now.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> VIPER-II: That's FakeRAID, which you probably don't want.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> !raid | VIPER-II
[09:43] <MrHarptastic> ok. goodnight guys
[09:43] <MrHarptastic> @@
[09:44] <KM0201> i've always used software raids
[09:44] <VIPER-II> KM0201: u got my attention
[09:44] <KM0201> VIPER-II: are you using the desktop installer, or are you installing ubuntu server?
[09:45] <VIPER-II> KM0201: oh... you mean that? Sorry. My Ubuntu is already up and running. I'm adding the 2 drives now.
[09:45] <KM0201> VIPER-II: ah, ok.. i've never added a raid... does your system have a total of 3 drives?
[09:45] <VIPER-II> I did it before using that motherboard-raid-menu and it worked fine in windows. Used to see just 1 drive on which i dumped files.
[09:45] <VIPER-II> But now in linux, things are a bit confusing.
[09:46] <VIPER-II> yep. I have 3 drives.
[09:46] <VIPER-II> 1 systemdrive and 2 x 2Tb HDDs
[09:46] <KM0201> yeah, i'm not sure how to add a raid to a current install.
[09:46] <KM0201> that's kinda how my NAS is set up, 1 system drive, and 2, 1.5's
[09:47] <VIPER-II> oh
[09:47] <VIPER-II> ok
[09:48] <VIPER-II> brrb
[09:50] <Squarism> is there some replacement for libnotify... i mean a way to redirect notications to something isnt as stupid as a 90-ties app?
[09:52] <pokuy> hi guys
[09:56] <pokuy> hello world
[09:58] <mi3> Hi!
[10:03] <hoshi411> currently switching from mint to ubuntu
[10:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hey guys, I have a problem, my xubuntu install has had two horrible crashes now when I've left it alone for a while, it says cannot handle kernel paging request at fffffc along with a load of other stuff
[10:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone know this issue?
[10:11] <cancer> No sound Kubuntu (wubi), Any Help?
[10:12] <Qten> Spoon: tried memtest?
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> you mean just leave a memtest running?
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> or what
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> @Qten
[10:13] <Qten> yerp
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> is there a special program for that
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> or do i have to install one
[10:14] <jack> WhereIsMySpoon: google is your friend
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> ive tried google jack
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> doesnt come up with any (useful) results
[10:14] <cancer> No sound Kubuntu (wubi), Any Help?
[10:14] <jack> hrm
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> or did you mean for the memtest thing?
[10:14] <Qten> when ya boot up it should be in the list of programs of grub otherwise you can try running it from iso from say http://www.memtest.org/
[10:14] <jack> yup
[10:15] <Qten> Spoon: at least then you'll know ya hardware is ok
[10:16] <Qten> or not =)
[10:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Qten, what do i do with this iso
[10:16] <Qten> Spoon: you can burn it to a cd and run it
[10:16] <Qten> boot from it rather
[10:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah ok
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> Well Qten it didnt do this when i had ubuntu 11.04 on it
[10:18] <jack> WhereIsMySpoon: i'd use an usb-stick
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> So I don't think its a hardware issue
[10:20] <cancer> No sound Kubuntu (wubi), Any Help?
[10:20] <mi3> When I activate lightdm on my ubuntu natty, I get a blue background instead of a transparent one, and there is no mouse pointer, and even the default background that was in gdm is not there, any suggestions on how can I really make it look like the real one?
[10:21] <minixvbox> cancer: any reason you're using wubi? its meant to be more of a test drive rather than a solution to anything
[10:22] <almoxarife> minixvbox: wubi is official software, the tangent does not help him
[10:22] <cancer> minixvbox: yes, i tried Vbox. maybe my Ram or Processor are not good to support it. 786 MB / 2.8 GHz
[10:23] <VIPER-II> Anyone in here know a bit about "mdadm" ?
[10:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> jack if i put the iso onto my usb stick will it overwrite everything else?
[10:23] <cancer> almoxarife: i have installed the software.
[10:23] <minixvbox> cancer: what about dual-booting?
[10:23] <mi3> When I activate lightdm on my ubuntu natty, I get a blue background instead of a transparent one, and there is no mouse pointer, and even the default background that was in gdm is not there, any suggestions on how can I really make it look like the real one?
[10:23] <n2i> Hi all! :D
[10:23] <cancer> minixvbox: i'm using it via Dual-boot.
[10:23] <Montuno> Hi there, I am facing a very strange problem with apt/synaptic. on one box I have added a repository (Dell Repository) so I can install dell tools from the command line. The problem is while mainstream packages are downloaded with no problem , dell's ones not (Err http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/latest/  srvadmin-deng 6.5.0-1      Connection failed). More strange, I can connect...
[10:23] <Montuno> ...successfully to http://linux.dell.com thru any browser and retrieve any file I want. I do not use any proxy. What could that be ?
[10:24] <minixvbox> cancer: so it has its own partition?
[10:24] <n2i> Is it available to install Ubuntu using chroo env from an existing system?
[10:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats the point of both using wubi and dual booting
[10:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> may as well install linux properly
[10:24] <cancer> minixvbox: yes i made a partition for it.
[10:25] <minixvbox> cancer: then that is a normal install, not a wubi
[10:25] <minixvbox> cancer: a wubi install uses a file on the windows partition
[10:25] <mi3> ??
[10:26] <pokuy> minixvbox, can i isntall ubuntu 10.4 at acer aspire?
[10:26] <minixvbox> pokuy: why not?
[10:27] <cancer> minixvbox: i don't now about that. i run Wubi and it asked for drive & size..... and i showed wubi another partition.... that's all. then now i only can switch to Kubuntu from boot.
[10:27] <minixvbox> pokuy: what hardware does the acer have?
[10:28] <pokuy> minixvbox, dual core 2.4 2 g of memory and 500 gb for hard drive
[10:28] <minixvbox> cancer: if the kubuntu install is inside the ntfs partition (on a pretend harddrive) then it is a wubi
[10:28] <minixvbox> pokuy: does it use sandy bridge?
[10:29] <pokuy> what is sandy bridge?
[10:29] <minixvbox> pokuy: better question: how old is it?
[10:29] <minixvbox> pokuy: and what graphics card?
[10:29] <cancer> minixvbox: how i'll now its wubi or normal install
[10:30] <minixvbox> cancer: boot a livecd and run gparted then tell us how many partitions you see and what filesystems there are
[10:30] <pokuy> i think this is series 2009 up 256 mb at the dxdiag
[10:31] <minixvbox> pokuy: 2009, should work fine with 10.04
[10:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, what does it matter if he has sandy bridge, he has 500gb hdd and 2g of ram, thats more than enough for 10.04
[10:31] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: sandybridge isn't supported in 10.04
[10:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ahh i see
[10:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> thanks :)
[10:32] <pokuy> minixvbox, when i try to boot my usb pen drive its blinking the graphics and when i choose one it takes a long time to read
[10:32] <japro>  identify orionnebel
[10:32] <japro> argh
[10:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
[10:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> quick, steal his nick
[10:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> never do password commands in a channel :p
[10:32] <minixvbox> japro: best to identify outside channels
[10:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ive made that mistake before :D
[10:33] <minixvbox> pokuy: i've never booted from usb with ubuntu before sorry
[10:33] <japro> minixvbox, i usually do, but got interrupted by my netbook lagging and then instajoining a channel mid typing
[10:34] <pokuy> minixvbox, i guess i have to burn this to cd right?
[10:34] <minixvbox> japro: ah, i never auto-join channels
[10:34] <minixvbox> pokuy: thats what i do
[10:34] <pokuy> minixvbox, thanks anyway man
[10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> how do i burn an iso to a usb pen drive
[10:34] <minixvbox> pokuy: no worries :)
[10:34] <japro> now i have to figure out how to change password /ns help doesn't list a command
[10:34] <minixvbox> !usb | WhereIsMySpoon
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> japro - ask in '
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> japro - ask in #freenode for the mto send you a pssword reset
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> *spelling
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubottu, that isnt what im doing
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[10:35] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: what are you doing?
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> burning a memtest iso
[10:36] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: you don't need to, if you have ubuntu installed memtest is available from grub
[10:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh ok
[10:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> i'll do that then
[10:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> thanks minixvbox
[10:36] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: no worries :)
[10:36] <japro> "/ns set password" does the trick
[10:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, how will i know if there is a problem
[10:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will say "error" or somesuch?
[10:37] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: i'm not sure sorry, my ram has always been fine
[10:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> okay
[10:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> im sure ill figure it out
[10:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[10:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, do you know roughly how long a memtest takes?
[10:40] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: can take quite a while, depends how much ram you have and how thorough you want to test it
[10:40] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: i mean hours
[10:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah ok
[10:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ill run it overnight then
[10:42] <Montuno> Any hint for the problem I described before ?
[10:43] <minixvbox> Montuno: what was your issue?
[10:43] <Montuno> it was; Hi there, I am facing a very strange problem with apt/synaptic. on one box I have added a repository (Dell Repository) so I can install dell tools from the command line. The problem is while mainstream packages are downloaded with no problem , dell's ones not (Err http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/latest/  srvadmin-deng 6.5.0-1      Connection failed). More strange, I can...
[10:43] <Montuno> ...connect successfully to http://linux.dell.com thru any browser and retrieve any file I want. I do not use any proxy. What could that be ?
[10:44] <minixvbox> Montuno: oh, i tend to stick just to the official repos, never have trouble then
[10:45] <Montuno> Yes maybe it's related to Dell's repo but I never have any problem with it so far
[10:46] <Montuno> It's strange that I can access it thru a broswer but apt-get not
[10:47] <hammommah> i have quick question. why is 64bit ubuntu called amd64 and 32bit i386??? i have intel 64 bit guessing i use amd64?
[10:47] <minixvbox> hammommah: yes you use amd64
[10:47] <theadmin> hammommah: Sure. AMD were the ones who created the 64-bit architecture, that's where the name comes from
[10:48] <makoy> oh... now i know :)
[10:48] <michael7824> Hi, can I possibly get some help?
[10:48] <theadmin> michael7824: Just ask the question
[10:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> michael, dont ask to ask, just ask
[10:48] <minixvbox> michael7824: you'd need to tell us the problem first :)
[10:48] <hammommah> this seems odd to me? plus it would confuse a lot of people. not hard to rename link on dl page :)
[10:49] <theadmin> hammommah: That's traditional for Linux
[10:49] <hammommah> lol true that
[10:49] <michael7824> I am running ubuntu ( VERY NEW TO THIS ) I have a Edimax EW 7728IN wireless card
[10:49] <michael7824> and it won't show up even though I read it's combatible
[10:50] <minixvbox> michael7824: i think you mean compatible, unless you are planning on fighting it :)
[10:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
[10:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> combatible
[10:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
[10:50] <michael7824> yeah..
[10:51] <michael7824> besides my obvious mistake in wording
[10:51] <michael7824> could I get some help?
[10:51] <michael7824> if it's any help i'm running it on a VirtualBox
[10:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> michael7824, did you try this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744371
[10:51] <theadmin> michael7824: VirtualBox has it's own networking devices, what's the host OS?
[10:52] <andrei> comp
[10:52] <minixvbox> michael7824: you shouldn't need to use it, vbox should work with the network
[10:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806897 has some tips too with that specific card
[10:55] <michael7824> WhereIsMySpoon: "- Wireless PCI Adapter Edimax EW-7722IN"
[10:55] <minixvbox> michael7824: you don't need to install it if you are using ubuntu in vbox
[10:55] <michael7824> oh what would you recommend me doing then?
[10:56] <michael7824> because when I do "wlan" or something for some command
[10:56] <michael7824> it's coming up as nothing
[10:56] <minixvbox> michael7824: the network should just be working already
[10:56] <minixvbox> michael7824: it virtualises an eth0 connection, not wireless
[10:57] <minixvbox> michael7824: you shouldn't need to do anything
[10:57] <minixvbox> michael7824: launch a browser in the ubuntu vm and you will see it is using your network
[10:58] <michael7824> minixvbox: pm?
[10:58] <minixvbox> michael7824: sure, go ahead
[10:58] <fsancho> Hi all
[10:59] <fsancho> anybody knows if Intel GMA 3650 is supported?
[11:00] <fsancho> I'm testing Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 b1. 11.10 loads vesafb and 12.04 doesn't show anything at all
[11:04] <theadmin> fsancho: Precise isn't supported here.
[11:04] <theadmin> fsancho: As for Oneiric, well, check the hardware drivers tool
[11:07] <fsancho> theadmin: jockey doesn't find any driver suitable for my system (MSI Wind U180)
[11:09] <theadmin> fsancho: I see, hmm... I think the Intel drivers are normally built-in, but
[11:10] <theadmin> fsancho: Maybe something with the specific model. Check intel.com actually, they provide drivers
[11:12] <fsancho> intel.com only offer windows 7 drivers for GMA3600 series :(
[11:13] <theadmin> fsancho: That'd mean it's not supported, guess you'll have to stick to vesa which kind of sucks :/
[11:18] <Rurd2di>  System information disabled due to load higher than 3.0
[11:18] <Rurd2di> lol
[11:18] <Rurd2di> wtf!
[11:18] <Rurd2di> any ideas how to overide it
[11:23] <wooka> Rurd2di: whaat are you doing
[11:23] <wooka> stop breaking things
[11:23] <Rurd2di> lol
[11:23] <Rurd2di> itsjust landscape
[11:23] <Rurd2di> but itsraping itself andwont show system info due to high load
[11:23] <Rurd2di> rofl
[11:23] <Rurd2di> wanna over ride so it will show neways
[11:24] <Gallomimia> please tell me what this means
[11:24] <Gallomimia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/869492/
[11:24] <Rurd2di> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[11:24] <wooka> your boot partiton is full it seems
[11:24] <Rurd2di> Gallomimia: u need more hard drive space
[11:24] <wooka> or /
[11:24] <Rurd2di> lol
[11:25] <Gallomimia> thank you Rurd2di i think something got messed up
[11:25] <Rurd2di> stop filling your boot partiotn with porn
[11:25] <Rurd2di> :P
[11:26] <Gallomimia> so....
[11:26] <Gallomimia> what's wrong with THIS picture? http://paste.ubuntu.com/869696/
[11:26] <Gallomimia> the last thing i ran was do-release-upgrade
[11:26] <Gallomimia> and it had errors
[11:26] <wooka> your boot partiton is full it seems
[11:26] <wooka> Gallomimia: ^
[11:26] <wooka> look at /boot
[11:26] <Gallomimia> look at my boot partition listed in the latest pastebin
[11:27] <Rurd2di> 80M  4.1M
[11:27] <Rurd2di> used avaliable
[11:27] <wooka> yeah 4.1 Gallomimia
[11:27] <Rurd2di> its full dude
[11:27] <wooka> 4.1 MB is nothing
[11:27] <wooka> It's full
[11:27] <Gallomimia> 80m isn't even anywhere close to the right size for a boot partition
[11:27] <wooka> uninstall old kernels
[11:27] <Gallomimia> stfu with your "it's full" parroting
[11:27] <Gallomimia> why is it borked?
[11:27] <Gallomimia> it wasn't like that before i did the upgrade
[11:28] <wooka> Gallomimia: IT IS FULL
[11:28] <wooka> Read
[11:28] <Gallomimia> it is way too damn small.
[11:28] <LjL> Gallomimia: no need for such acronyms.
[11:28] <wooka> ev/xvda1 89M 80M 4.1M 96% /boot
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  you can use ubuntu-tweak to delete old kernels easily
[11:28] <wooka> 80 MBs IS FINE FOR BOOT BUT LEARN TO MANAGE YOUR SYSTEM
[11:28] <wooka> wow
[11:29]  * LjL gives everyone a valium injection
[11:29] <loganrun> the encrypted account seems of limited usefulness since if you are logged in someone with admin access can still access the contents of your account
[11:29] <wooka> You don't need like 5678 kernels installed, moron
[11:29] <wooka> Have like 3
[11:29] <loganrun> not sure I understand the ubuntu implementation
[11:29] <LjL> wooka: don't call people morons.
[11:29] <sacarlson> I've tried to setup pxe boot with ubuntu 11.10 and 11.04 and get to this point pxe boot with message Please provide a name for this disc, such as ‘Debian 5.0.3 Disk 1′: But I can’t type anything there.  is there a work around for this?
[11:30] <loganrun> does anyone else use the encrypted account option
[11:30] <wooka> LjL: fine, but please try to get Gallomimia to do something simple like read his df/di output correctly.
[11:30] <wooka> And convey the idea of managing a system correctly
[11:30] <wooka> Because being this stupid must be a sin
[11:30] <bluefrog> loganrun, if your encrypted is not logged in nobody can read your data
[11:31] <sacarlson> has anyone got a version of ubuntu to boot pxe?  if so what was the last verison that still works?  also tried 10.04 that can't mount nfs
[11:32] <LjL> wooka: "stupid" is not more acceptable than "moron". you're not here to insult the intelligence of people. if you find they're being stubborn, you don't have to continue helping them.
[11:32] <loganrun> bluefrog: i guess it covers the case that someone physically takes the system or HD. however, it would be less effictive against a hacking attack
[11:33] <bluefrog> loganrun, if you want maxuimum security, I'd advice not to use a computer...
[11:33] <loganrun> bluefrog, then again, I guess nothing really protects data in that case
[11:33] <loganrun> bluefrog, yes, my notepad is very secure I write the words backwards so that no can figure out what I am saying
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> google knows everything :p
[11:34] <minixvbox> loganrun: except now you've just given everyone the decryption key :)
[11:34] <loganrun> bluefrog, actually a non-networked system pretty much solves that problem if you can trust the origional distribution
[11:35] <loganrun> minixbox, oh now, I better go, have to change my key and recopy all the notes
[11:40] <Quan-Time> had an issue, maunally instaled gtk+2.0 from tar.gz, and then sudo apt-get autoremove as i had bulk packages all over the place.. now my GUI is all old-skool blocky looking linux style.  thunderbird, firefox, konversation,, etc.  its all ugly and blocky.. ideas what package i broke ?  ubuntu 11.10
[11:41] <Quan-Time> gtk works great now tho !.. or so i thoughtn
[11:42] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: why did you install gtk manually?
[11:44] <m_e> can you set the system date without changing the system time somehow?
[11:45] <ikonia> m_e: the date command will allow you to
[11:45] <ikonia> or you can user ntp/ntpdate to bring it all into sync
[11:45] <m_e> that needs a time aswell
[11:45] <ikonia> what needs the time
[11:45] <m_e> date
[11:45] <theadmin> m_e: sudo date "13 Jan 2012"
[11:45] <ikonia> m_e: yes, you set the time the same
[11:46] <Quan-Time> minixvbox: gtk was not properly installed, synaptic didnt fix it.. so did it the old fashioned way.. no big deal.. it was clearly the autoremove which screwed me.  but not sure WHICH package it killed.
[11:46] <m_e> http://www.codeunit.co.za/2010/06/14/ubuntu-how-to-view-the-current-date-and-time-via-command-line/
[11:46] <ikonia> m_e: why do you want to change the date but not sync the time
[11:46] <theadmin> m_e: Err... sudo date -s "13 Jan 2012", rather
[11:46] <m_e> oh well they always said you need to make this into some trange string like “nnddhhmmyyy.ss” 
[11:46] <Quan-Time> was working with a git package, and it wouldnt compile because gtk+ was screwed... thus what i did..
[11:46] <m_e> but if it also works like theadmin says i am happy
[11:46] <theadmin> m_e: Not necessary, "date" accepts a variety of formats
[11:46] <m_e> lemme check
[11:46] <Quan-Time> least it compiled and did its thing ok !
[11:46] <ikonia> m_e: correct
[11:46] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: what do you mean by not properly installed?
[11:47] <Quan-Time> i couldnt compile whati  wanted because gtk kept throwing errors.
[11:47] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: oh, so your git-pkg didn't like gtk so you compiled gtk yourself
[11:48] <m_e> theadmin: works thank you
[11:48] <theadmin> m_e: np
[11:48] <ikonia> Quan-Time: why have you manually compiled gtk ?
[11:49] <ikonia> Quan-Time: gtk is essential to the desktop, why have you built a version that may cause problems with the ubuntu supplied version
[11:50] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: i wouldn't be suprised if a lot of stuff breaks
[11:50] <sacarlson> ok I think I found my problem when I do this sudo cp -av /mnt/* /nfsroot/iso  I don't get the file .disk  what copy command will include .* files?
[11:50] <lgp171188> Hi, I am having a HP dv9704tx laptop with 3 usb ports, one of which was having issues at times due to loose contact and the other two were working fine. Today when I connect my Seagate portable usb drive, it isn't recognized in any of the 3 usb ports, nothing in syslog, dmesg etc. But when I connect my pen drive or a mobile usb charger, they work fine. The usb drive doesn't power even on Windows. The drive was working fine till this issue. Any clues or 
[11:50] <lgp171188> I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[11:50] <lgp171188> amd64 release
[11:51] <ikonia> lgp171188: sounds like hard disk failure
[11:51] <Quan-Time> minixvbox: ok.. i dont know how to make this any clearer..  GTK update was fine,, the "sudo apt-get autoremove" killed some packages, which were, what i thought, redundant.. THATS when things went to poop.. is there a way to see taht list, or history, or anything ?
[11:51] <ikonia> lgp171188: if it doesn't work under both OS's it's most likley hardware
[11:51] <lgp171188> ikonia: appears to me like a usb port power problem.
[11:51] <theadmin> lgp171188: Hardware issue -- likely something with teh cable or maybe even the disk itself
[11:51] <ikonia> lgp171188: possibly, still hardware though
[11:52] <cancer> almoxarif
[11:52] <theadmin> lgp171188: Try asking in ##hardware
[11:52] <cancer> almoxarif: you there?
[11:52] <lgp171188> theadmin: ikonia: let me check the drive in another computer and see if it works. that should tell if it is a hdd failure
[11:52] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: just like i said, i'm not suprised things are breaking because you insisted on compiling gtk and replacing the systems one
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> experiment: reinstall ubuntu without formatting (unity 3D issues)
[11:54] <Quan-Time> minixvbox: not really what im looking for.. so i guess you are suggesting "remove the gtk you installed, re-install from normal repository" ??
[11:54] <theadmin> Quan-Time: Correct.
[11:55] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: i'd reinstall
[11:55] <theadmin> Never try to replace system apps with source-built ones really. Long as it's in the repo... Use the repo version
[11:55] <Linux_Freak> Sorry to interrupt, but i am in search for Ubuntu-Android channel. If any body helps, it would be appericiated.
[11:55] <Quan-Time> hmm... whats the best way... synaptic or cmd line ?
[11:55] <ikonia> Linux_Freak: there isn't one as the project has no info
[11:56] <ikonia> Linux_Freak: all the info is on the website
[11:56] <Linux_Freak> @ikonia okey, thank you for your help.
[11:56] <ikonia> Quan-Time: I would suggest re-installing as you won't be able to remove your source build cleanly
[11:56] <Quan-Time> ah... ok.. best way to do that ikonia ?
[11:56]  * minixvbox concur's with ikonia
[11:56] <ikonia> Quan-Time: get a CD, boot from it, follow the install processs
[11:57] <ikonia> !install | Quan-Time
[11:57] <Quan-Time> nah,, aint re-installing.
[11:57] <ikonia> Quan-Time: ok, then you'll need to use your broken system.
[11:58] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: then expect a broken system
[11:58] <Quan-Time> there has to be a way to undo, else reinstall the correct packages.
[11:58] <ikonia> Quan-Time: no, there isn't
[11:58] <ikonia> Quan-Time: not in a simple method
[11:58] <theadmin> If you break it, you get to keep the pieces ;) Replacing system apps is a bad idea, Quan-Time
[11:58] <ikonia> Quan-Time: that's why you'll find it easier/quicker to re-install the OS
[11:58] <theadmin> Well, if your source package's makefile has an uninstall target... That might work, but.
[11:58] <ikonia> Quan-Time: get to safe "known" good state, then be more careful in future
[11:58] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: you insisted on replacing gtk (a core system component) and you think there is a simple way to fix it?
[11:59] <Quan-Time> ok.. ill say it ONE more time.. just for the slow learners.. (maybe im included in this).. everything was FINE.. no issues.. everything was pretty... gtk was a-ok... AFTER i ran "sudo apt-get autoremove"  THATS when things broke.. only then.. i want a way to find out what packages it removed..
[12:00] <ikonia> Quan-Time: I'll say it one more time - as you clearly are slow at learning "you have overwritten core system packages, your dependency tree will be out of wack and therefore the dependencies will be also wrong - re-install to a known good system state"
[12:00] <ikonia> Quan-Time: best not to call people who can actually help you "slow learners" when it's clear you have no idea what you are doing
[12:00] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: earlier you said quite clearly that you were using something that didn't agree with gtk, so you compiled and installed gtk yourself
[12:01] <Quan-Time> hmm.. so multiple reboots, several days in between the gtk install, and the recently autoremove, has nothing to do with it ?
[12:01] <ikonia> probably not no,
[12:01] <ikonia> good luck
[12:02] <Quan-Time> wow.. how random.. that everything was fine for days, JUST until i auto removed some packages.. how coincidental is that !
[12:03] <theadmin> Quan-Time: Um, uh, yes. That's because you installed a non-system Gtk, the dependency tree broke, it considered moar core packages unneeded and removed em
[12:03] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: you simply don't understand the importance of core componants
[12:03] <Quan-Time> yes, yes i do.. its why i came here to find out a way WHAT it auto removed..
[12:03] <Quan-Time> clearly that was my own mistake.. im cool with that.. but its also clear to me that theres no way to find out WHAT it removed.. correct
[12:04] <Quan-Time> ?
[12:04] <theadmin> Quan-Time: There are dpkg logs
[12:04] <minixvbox> Quan-Time: it would be extremely time consuming and non-trivial to fix, which is why everyone has said to do a reinstall
[12:05] <Quan-Time> theadmin: ah corse... /var.........
[12:06] <me-1> hi...I  am looking for a neo geo emulator for ubntu 11.10
[12:06] <thys> hi
[12:07] <thys> I've got a problem.. all of a sudden my ubuntu server stopts working with my websites
[12:11] <dr_willis> me-1:  mame can do that. there may be others
[12:12] <awusler> kikoolol
[12:13] <beatboxhero> So I have a question. Ubuntu wont shut down properly. It will just sit there and run the shutdown screen and then freez and not do anything.
[12:13] <beatboxhero> Anyone know why this would happen?
[12:13] <awusler> The big bang theory
[12:14] <theadmin> beatboxhero: Uses the wrong shutdown method. Append "reboot=bios" to your kernel line and try again
[12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> mine does that too
[12:14] <beatboxhero> oh jeez...I should have told you i was a noob first
[12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just ignored it and force shut it down :P
[12:14] <beatboxhero> How do i get to the kernel? haha
[12:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin where is the file that you haev to append to
[12:14] <beatboxhero> thats what I have been doing but I would rather it work right
[12:15] <dr_willis> !grub2
[12:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
[12:15] <dr_willis> you edir the grub configs
[12:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ...ok?
[12:16] <dr_willis> or try the option out first via the grub menu edit featre
[12:16] <theadmin> beatboxhero, WhereIsMySpoon: Type: "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub" in a terminal without quotes. Find a line saying something like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="foo bar baz", change it to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="foo bar baz reboot=bios", save, close, run "sudo update-grub"
[12:16] <beatboxhero> awesome!
[12:17] <theadmin> beatboxhero: After that, shut down the machine in any way you can, it should start working at the next boot
[12:17] <beatboxhero> thanks so much
[12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> okay, thanks
[12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> why is this not default, theadmin
[12:17] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Because the default works with most computers lol
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> i seed
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> *see
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> and why does it not work with this one?
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> or you dont know
[12:18] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: No idea really, it's... random. Many people seem to have this problem recently :$
[12:19] <beatboxhero> I have a "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash""
[12:20] <beatboxhero> that the one your talking about?
[12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes so set it to "quiet splash reboot=bios"
[12:20] <theadmin> beatboxhero: K, change to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash reboot=bios"
[12:20] <beatboxhero> awesome
[12:20] <engammalsko> I need help with installing a library to code::blocks. Is this the right channel to ask?
[12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> not really
[12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> but why do you need to "install" the library
[12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> you just include the .h and .cpp files
[12:20] <theadmin> beatboxhero: Then save, close the editor, type "sudo update-grub" in the terminal.
[12:22] <beatboxhero> done! thanks theadmin!
[12:22] <beatboxhero> Will reboot and see how it does
[12:22] <theadmin> beatboxhero: No problem, now just shut down any way you can shut down
[12:22] <theadmin> beatboxhero: And boot again
[12:22] <beatboxhero> yeah probably have to force it. But awesome!
[12:25] <pranavk> when person not in the sudoers file run a sudo command, we get an error message that incident will be repored, where does this incident is reported afterwards, i am unable to find any log of this ?
[12:25] <theadmin> pranavk: To root's mail, normally
[12:26] <pranavk> theadmin: well, i haven't set any root's mail, how to set it up ?
[12:26] <pranavk> theadmin: neither it did ask me ever to provide mail for root !
[12:26] <thys> There are 8 zombie processes on my webhosting server. All my domains stopped working yesterday could the zombies have anything to do with this?
[12:27] <theadmin> pranavk: No idea really lol, it's set to mail locally by default. So just log in as root ("sudo -i") and run any mail client which can retreive locally. For instance mutt, or alpine
[12:27] <theadmin> pranavk: If that ain't working, it's probably not even configured in Ubuntu
[12:31] <pranavk> theadmin: well, its ok, can you tell me one more thing, how i can change the information that is seen when a user logs in to his account ?
[12:32] <theadmin> pranavk: ...Um, what exactly do you mean?
[12:33] <m_e> uumm alright anyone knows how i can set the date and time to the default again? (like bios time or some webserver time?)
[12:33] <pranavk> theadmin: eg: right now when any person logs into his account through command line, he gets a mesage like : "welcome to ubuntu", i want to customize it
[12:34] <theadmin> pranavk: That is the motd, I don't exactly remember how to change that
[12:34] <Fire> pranavk: the default is root@hostname.com , usually set in /etc/aliases
[12:34] <Pici> pranavk: take a look at the manpage for motd.tail
[12:38] <Fire> pranavk: run newaliases if you edit it, this file is empty in ubuntu
[12:39] <allu2> is it normal that gvfsd-dav takes up to 627mb ram?
[12:39] <m_e> anyone knows how i can set the system date and time to the default again? (like setting it to bios time or some webserver time?)
[12:39] <omabena> hello, I'm looking for an alternative of byobu/screen, any suggestion?
[12:41] <monser> how do I uninstall an application that i have compiled and installed with make install?
[12:42] <Pici> omabena: tmux?
[12:42] <monser> is it enough to delete it from its installed directory
[12:42] <minixvbox> !checkinstall | monser
[12:43] <Aruzsi> Hi there,
[12:43] <Aruzsi> Please help me!
[12:43] <Aruzsi> Ubuntu 12.04 and Grub.
[12:43] <Pici> Aruzsi : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:44] <minixvbox> Aruzsi: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <pranavk> Fire: there is not such file like /etc/aliases in ubuntu 10.04
[12:46] <Fire> pranavk: Neither in 11.10
[12:46] <Aruzsi_> Pici: OK, thanks.
[12:46] <geirha> pranavk: man update-motd
[12:47] <pranavk> geirha: ya update-motd is available and i got how to change the motd using update-motd and motd files
[12:47] <pranavk> but i don't understand the point of Fire, what he was trying to say ?
[12:47] <haylo> is ubuntu x64 really using all the ram it says its using? or is it some kid of xtra ram disk debian doesnt have?
[12:47] <pranavk> Fire: all that about aliases etc.
[12:47] <monser> the application has a headers and compiled binnary I guess
[12:48] <geirha> pranavk: Me neither. /etc/aliases is a postfix thing afaik.
[12:48] <theadmin> !ram | haylo
[12:48] <monser> the binary I think goes to /usr/local  I do not know where the headers go
[12:48] <monser> the checkinstall does not work for me
[12:48] <pranavk> geirha: post fix thing in what sense ?
[12:48] <monser> how do one uninstall programs from linux?
[12:49] <monser> if they have been compiled from source?
[12:49] <geirha> pranavk: A configfile for postfix. apt-cache show postfix
[12:49] <haylo> i just did ubuntu netinstall so i know there are no background process that i caused? why an xrta 300mibs ram from debian? i figure there is a good reason- you guys know what you are doinf, im just tryign to get to the bottom of why
[12:49] <theadmin> monser: No real way, unless the software itself provides a method to uninstall
[12:49] <monser> really?
[12:49] <pranavk> monster: may be : sudo apt-get remove
[12:49] <monser> there has to be a way
[12:49] <minixvbox> monser: in the future use checkinstall when compiling
[12:50] <monser> i do not know how to use it
[12:50] <monser> i use make
[12:50] <minixvbox> pranavk: that won't work for compiled software
[12:50] <theadmin> monser: Use "checkinstall" instead of "make install", that's all
[12:50] <minixvbox> !checkinstall | monser
[12:51] <geirha> monser: In the source dir you installed from, try  sudo make uninstall.  If that doesn't work, you have to hunt down and remove all the files it installed... which can be tedious of work.
[12:51] <pranavk> minixvbox: oh i missed the compiled part
[12:51] <geirha> monser: That's the whole reason why we have package managers
[12:52] <monser> checkinstall does not work
[12:52] <minixvbox> monser: i said use it when compiling in the future
[12:52] <monser> it tries to create a deb package and gives error about missing binnary
[12:53] <monser> instead of make?
[12:53] <minixvbox> monser: it won't remove what you installed without it
[12:53] <monser> i have not install it yet
[12:53] <minixvbox> monser: thats what i'm saying
[12:53] <monser> its just compiled, I think in the source dir
[12:54] <minixvbox> monser: yes so you need to remove it manually, if you used checkinstall instaead you wouldn't have this problem
[12:55] <monser> do i need to be root to use checkinstall?
[12:55] <monser> checkinstall "nameof the application" ?
[12:55] <semixx> how i can install adobe flash player on my linux xubuntu 9.10
[12:55] <minixvbox> semixx: 9.10 is no longer supported
[12:56] <theadmin> semixx: No way, 9.10 is discontinued.
[12:56] <XVampireX> lol
[12:59] <pranavk> what is the difference between /var/spool/mail and /var/mail ?
[13:01] <monser> there has to be a way one to find out where and what files goes during make install
[13:01] <monser> in windows this can be done
[13:02] <monser> even one can clear the registry
[13:02] <jpds> monser: No.
[13:02] <monser> I do not understand how this is possible
[13:04] <monser> come on if you create your own application you know where files goes
[13:04] <geirha> monser: If you install a deb package, it keeps track of where files got installed. Running make install in a source tree is just a bunch of cp thisfile /to/here  which does not get recorded anywhere.
[13:04] <monser> so looking in a files in the source should tell where one file goes
[13:05] <rumpe1> monser, read the Makefile
[13:05] <monser> or how does make know where to copy the file?
[13:05] <monser> so it there?
[13:05] <monser> in the Makefile?
[13:05] <rumpe1> monser, it knows it, because it's configured in its Makefile
[13:06] <geirha> monser: Some developers have the decency to make an uninstall rule in the Makefile; which reverses what make install does.
[13:07] <[[AnThoY]]> ciao
[13:07] <[[AnThoY]]> !list
[13:07] <Fire> pranavk,geirha: sorry through /etc/aliases is the only method I have heard about
[13:07] <monser> Makefile is complicated to understand I tried to create a deb package with checkinstall .It created a deb package but was not able to install it
[13:08] <geirha> monser: You must run it as root (e.g. sudo checkinstall ...)
[13:09] <monser> yeah i did that
[13:09] <monser> I ran it as a root
[13:09] <monser> first I compiled with make then I sudo checkinstall application
[13:09] <geirha> monser: Right, then the reason it fails to install is probably because the files it tries to install are already installed
[13:10] <monser> it created a deb package but it was not able to install it
[13:10] <jadoe> I'd like to remap ctrl+c/v/x/t/w/q to alt+c/v/x/t/w/q without switching alt and ctrl globally. possible?
[13:10] <monser> no they were not
[13:10] <Fire> pranavk,geirha: this works with sendmail as well not only postfix
[13:10] <jacobrask> Hi. How unstable is the beta? I'm installing a new machine now and thinking if I should install 11.10 and upgrade later, or just as well install the beta directly
[13:10] <ph8> hi all, does anyone know how i can change grub to stop using a disk by UUID? I have some old hardware it fails on and i want to just have root=/dev/sda5 in there
[13:10] <monser> now they are because I install them with make install but at the time I tried with checkinstall they were not
[13:10] <geirha> Fire: Well, he wanted to change the greeting he got when he logged in with ssh ... I don't see how that relates to postfix/sendmail
[13:11] <Fire> pranavk,geirha: No his first problem was trying to change the email address of root
[13:11] <geirha> monser: Well, checkinstall only works if the Makefile is written in a certain way
[13:12] <monser> I see
[13:12] <minixvbox> monser: what are you trying to build anyway?
[13:12] <geirha> monser: Building and installing something from source should really be the last resort
[13:13] <detrix> Hello all. I have a computer that where the eject button for the cd/dvd drives are not on the drives them selves, but wired to buttons on the computer case.  The buttons are not ejecting the drives. Is there a shell command to do this?
[13:13] <unop> detrix, yea, it's called 'eject'
[13:13] <Oer> detrix, yes, eject
[13:14] <detrix> doh
[13:14] <Oer> detrix you need eject -t also, to close the tray
[13:14] <detrix> thanks.
[13:15] <cheesee> quit
[13:15] <monser> minixvbox, it's a miniupnpd
[13:15] <zykes-> has anyone experienced that screen crashes randomly ?
[13:15] <monser> no not the deamon the client
[13:15] <monser> miniupnpc
[13:16] <uni4dfx> Did Ubuntu 11.10 stop supporting Samba? It now fails at the most basic tasks such as listing WinXP shared folders.
[13:16] <unop> ph8, I believe you can edit /etc/grub/default and set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="root=/dev/sda5"   and then run  update-grub or update-grub2
[13:16] <minixvbox> monser: never heard of it, what does it do?
[13:17] <monser> http://miniupnp.free.fr
[13:19] <minixvbox> monser: what was wrong with the one in the repo?
[13:20] <minixvbox> !info miniupnpc | monser
[13:23] <UnknownWanderer> how do I format a HDD in terminal that has 2 partitions, and make it only 1 partition with NTFS?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> UnknownWanderer: you can make the partition in gparted
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> UnknownWanderer: there is ntfsprogs which can make NTFS file systems but I would use Windows for that as NTFS is proprietary to microsoft
[13:26] <m_e> anyone knows how i can set the system date and time to the default again? (like setting it to bios time or some webserver time?)
[13:27] <bytesofbinary> hey guys, look, I have fedora and ubuntu installed. I bought another hard disk today and I will be installing windows on it. Anyone know how I can do that without affecting the bootloader?
[13:27] <bytesofbinary> I mean I want to have the first drive and second drive as totally separate
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> m_e: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[13:27] <UnknownWanderer> ActionParsnip: allright thanks for that, one question though. I'm using clonezilla to restore a image to that HDD, do you know if the HDD will be made into NTFS or should I make it NTFS beforehand?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> bytesofbinary: the windows installer will put the bootloader on the drive it is installed to, so should be ok. You may needto boot back to Ubuntu and add the new OS to the Grub config
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> UnknownWanderer: the file system of the image will be used.
[13:29] <UnknownWanderer> ActionParsnip: sweet thanks :)
[13:30] <bytesofbinary> ActionParsnip: Precisely. I don't want that. I want the computer to detect only one drive at a time. Suppose I want to boot into windows, I enable detection of only /dev/sdb and so windows thinks that it is the only OS on the computer
[13:30] <speedup_audio> guys, is there a unix way to speed up some audio files?
[13:30] <jpds> speedup_audio: mplayer -speed ?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> bytesofbinary: why don't you have both and you can choose the OS at boot, Grub can boot all 3 OSes
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> bytesofbinary: windows will only see itself, it has no access to Linux file systems natively
[13:31] <speedup_audio> jpds: what i intend to do is: make a folder of audio files 20%faster
[13:32] <speedup_audio> jpds: is it gonna make my file fatster?
[13:32] <bytesofbinary> ActionParsnip: I hate Windows. It just screws up everything. And I know what you're saying. I've done that previously. Is there no way to stop detection of hard drives other than detaching the power/sata cable every time? :(
[13:32] <jpds> speedup_audio: Yes.
[13:32] <speedup_audio> jpds: ty
[13:32] <minixvbox> bytesofbinary: you sound a little paranoid, i've been multi-booting for years
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> bytesofbinary: why do you want it like that? you can just use Grub2 to boot all 3 OSes. If your motherboard can do it, you could disable the controller in BIOS which would make the drive not show.
[13:33] <satyanash> Exactly, I have been multi-booting for years.. and Windows won't touch anything that is not NTFS,FAT, unless you explicitly tel it to...
[13:34] <bytesofbinary> ActionParsnip: Exactly. I don't find it in my BIOS. Any specific name I should look for in the BIOS settings?
[13:34] <bytesofbinary> minixvbox: Last time I did that (2 times) my hard disk got physically damaged (3 times)
[13:35] <minixvbox> bytesofbinary: physically damaged? sounds like you have a hardware issue
[13:35] <bytesofbinary> minixvbox: Actually it had a huge reallocated sector count. I had to get it replaced
[13:38] <minixvbox> bytesofbinary: i fail to see how windows could affect your other disks, unless they have fat or ntfs on them windows won't mount it or read or write to them
[13:39] <lolcat^> minixvbox: windows == fail, it ruins everything
[13:39] <lolcat^> Once windows broke the screen
[13:40] <m_e> ActionParsnip: thank you
[13:40] <bytesofbinary> minixvbox: I do still have that question in mind. But after that happened 3 times, I did decide to get rid of it. But, due to office reasons, I have to install it again. Sigh. Poor me. I'm running a dual boot ubuntu&fedroa system for 3 years and wa lah! Hard disk is healthy as ever!
[13:41] <bytesofbinary> *fedora
[13:41] <KM0201> bytesofbinary: vbox?
[13:41] <FluxiFlax2022> hi I have a XP vm on kvm on a Ubuntu 11.10 server but graphics are slow..any ideas how to speed it up ?
[13:42] <bytesofbinary> KM0201: Not a bad idea! But I guess running windows 7 for Visual Studio on vbox would make my computer melt. Lol. I dont have that much hardware.
[13:42] <minixvbox> bytesofbinary: yeah that might be slow
[13:44] <bytesofbinary> minixvbox: I think this has got to do with the NTFS system itself! ext4 or btrfs seems nice for my hard drive. I wonder how ReFS will be.
[13:45] <Fire> bytesofbinary: ever try Visual Studio through Wine?
[13:45] <bytesofbinary> Fire: No. This is a marvellous idea! You sure it will work?
[13:46] <Fire> bytesofbinary: No but Im checking WineHQ now
[13:46] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: What are you trying to do? MonoDevelop is a nice Visual Studio replacement which works just fine natively.
[13:47] <Fire> bytesofbinary: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4647  VB 6.0 the version I need seems to work Yay
[13:47] <bytesofbinary> theadmin: I need to make user interfaces inside a current VS 2010 project.
[13:47] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: Ah, yeah, that'd be problematic...
[13:48] <bytesofbinary> Fire: VS2010 does not run. Checked :(
[13:48] <cmon1> trouble googling for this... someone sent 3 .las files, (assuming it's 'lidar data' files) but can't seem to find any info about software available on ubuntu to open those files. anyone familiar with that extension ?
[13:49] <Fire> bytesofbinary: Bah! :(
[13:49] <bytesofbinary> theadmin: I absolutely hate Microsoft now! Could have provided a VS2010 Linux edition. Lol. :P
[13:49] <bytesofbinary> Okay guys, I think I'll go the GRUB way. No other options I guess :(
[13:50] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: Yeah they're hamsters... But nothing that I can help with :(
[13:50] <bytesofbinary> theadmin: Yea. Sigh.
[13:52] <venon> i need back up the GRUB bootloader :D but in menu.lst i have nothing...
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> venon: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst
[13:53] <venon> grub2 ?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> venon: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[13:54] <venon> ty
[13:54] <venon> i want install windows next to ubuntu ....
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> venon: i suggest you resize the linux partition in Ubuntu liveCD, then install Windows to the free space. You will then need the guide i gave to reinstate Grub2 as the WIndows installer will blindly overwrite the Grub in the MBR with it's own rubbish
[13:58] <mozura> Does anyone know how to use VBALink?
[13:59] <venon> can i resize from ubuntu ?  or  must i have live cd
[13:59] <mozura> Anyone? Please?
[13:59] <venon> mozura : google
[14:00] <mozura> Thats... not helpful venon.
[14:01] <dr_willis> !info vbalink
[14:01] <LucidGuy> Odd scenario.  I was troubleshooting an ubuntu server by running "stress" for x hours.  This troubled system has a tendency to restart/crash randomly.  I had a different remote system pinging the system every 30 minutes.  The troubled system crashed as expected, but oddly the healthy system watching the troubled system also dropped its network.  I force powered down the troubled system and seconds later healthy system regained network con
[14:01] <LucidGuy> nectivity and spit out the following to the console http://paste.ubuntu.com/869876/            Any ideas what happend?
[14:01] <LucidGuy> ouch .. that was long they I thought.
[14:01] <Oer> mozura, maybe it works in wine >>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12649
[14:02] <mozura> I've attempted to use with WINE, no success Oer. Thanks though.
[14:03] <Oer> mozura, that page tells 'Required mfc42.dll from winetricks'
[14:03] <dr_willis> whats vbalink? i dont remember
[14:03] <bzrk> dr_willis: gameboy emulator
[14:03] <heero_> just a quick question: anyone tried "ls -d" lately? shouldn't that list directories??? all I'm getting is "." on the next line and that's it. even doing sudo ls -d on / only gives "."
[14:03] <dr_willis> therrs other gba emus out there
[14:04] <mauke> heero_: . is a directory
[14:04] <mozura> Oer, I don't know what that is.. o.o
[14:04] <jrib> heero_: ls -d jus causes ls not to list the contents of directories but instead just list the directory itself
[14:04] <mauke> heero_: ls -d / should give you /
[14:04] <dr_willis> mozura:  winetricks is a wine helper tool to tweak wine
[14:05] <jrib> heero_: if you want to list only the directories in the current directory, do: ls -d */
[14:05] <bigbrovar> Hi guys, has anyone tried the creative soundblaster X Fi Sound. does it work on ubuntu 11.10 + with 5.1 output?
[14:05] <heero_> ls gives a list of files in a directory, why not ls -d giving a list of only directories in the current directory?
[14:06] <heero_> ok i try
[14:06] <Oer> mozura, see http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks , beter look for support in #winehq
[14:06] <mauke> heero_: because it wasn't designed to do that
[14:06] <mozura> Ok.. I'll try that.
[14:08] <lolcat^> heero_: ls-d is dangerous
[14:10] <bigbrovar> does the last stable release of alsa work with Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro  on a linux distro with kernel 3.2x ? has anyone gotten it to work.. I am just trying to do due diligence by researching an hardware before buying
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> bigbrovar: the 3.2 kernel is not supported in Oneiric
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> bigbrovar: i wouldn't buy creative sound cards, they can be a pain to get working
[14:12] <bigbrovar> ActionParsnip: ok but does this work on older kernels?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | bigbrovar
[14:12] <bigbrovar> ActionParsnip: any good USB sound card you can recommend? something that supports 5.1 surround
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> bigbrovar: never used usb sound, i'd always grab an internal device
[14:14] <dr_willis> ive rarely needed or used 5.1  ;>)
[14:15] <googlemoomoo> anyone here know what app should be used to open adobe illutrator file for viewing ?
[14:15] <venon> hey how i resize my disk (ext4) use Gparted
[14:16] <dr_willis> venon:  i normally use a gparted live cd.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> venon: boot to liveCD
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> venon: gparted is on the ubuntu live cd.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> venon: be sure your backups are up to date in case of catastrophe
[14:16] <venon> must rr ? y ?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> venon  are you familiar with gparted?
[14:17] <dr_willis> make backups.
[14:17] <mrhanky> ready, nub!
[14:17] <venon> MonkeyDust  no :D
[14:17] <venon> just click right ?
[14:17] <venon> on partition
[14:18] <bazhang> mrhanky, pardon?
[14:18] <sirlark> hi, I need to reinstall all my packages after a hack. I know I should reinstall the server completely, but I have a large data analysis that has been running for two weeks already, and don't have the time to restart it. My questions is: If I use "dkpg --get-selections | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get install --reinstall" should I disable triggers or not?
[14:18] <sirlark> I will reinstall properly once the analysis has finished
[14:18] <mrhanky> i just wanted to highlight ready
[14:18] <mrhanky> ^^
[14:19] <venon> and when i resize partition in ubuntu live cd after i can install windows ? without complications ?
[14:19] <susundberg> sirlark: ti guess taking the machine offline and let it finish the calculation is not possible?
[14:19] <googlemoomoo> anyone here know what app should be used to open adobe illutrator file for viewing ?
[14:19] <ready> lol mrhanky
[14:19] <ready> :D
[14:20] <sirlark> susundberg: sadly no, my colleagues still need to access it for smaller analyses
[14:20] <susundberg> sirlark: external firewall with very restricted ip access would be second best thing imho
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> googlemoomoo: https://nancib.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/quick-tip-opening-adobe-illustrator-files-in-linux/
[14:20] <mozura> So I installed winetricks. I hate to be a bother but I'm clueless. Where do I go from here?
[14:20] <venon> and when i resize partition in ubuntu live cd after i can install windows ? without complications ? just set botmenu ? ?
[14:21] <dr_willis> mozura: you run winetricks
[14:21] <hylian> is there a way to activate mouse scrolling for links web browser?
[14:21] <sirlark> susundberg: the hack was to install a proxy kit, which the firewall stopped anyway: I don't think any of my 'system' executables have been tampered with, but I'd like to be safe...
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> venon  windows will ruin your grub, it can be repaired, but it is a 'complication'
[14:22] <ph8> unop: thanks but doing that makes my grub.cfg read root=UUID=<uuid> root=/dev/sda5
[14:23] <ph8> aha!
[14:23] <ph8> i just found disable uuid
[14:23] <ph8> in default/grub
[14:23] <ph8> thanks for putting me on the right track
[14:23] <dr_willis> putting grub on a spare flash drive is a handy trick to make recovering it easier
[14:23] <FloodBot1> ph8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <venon> ruin ?
[14:24] <venon> Moneydust
[14:24] <susundberg> sirlark: good luck with the project , i am sorry but i don't know (proper answear) for the triggers. I might go with download packages to separete tmp dir and then just replace the binaries
[14:25] <susundberg> i guess you would like to replace only binaries and libraries so triggers shouldnt be needed, but as i said, i am no expert with apt-get
[14:25] <sirlark> susundberg: how do I do that, becasue I'm happy to check md5 sigs against the installed binaries... that's just as good. Better even, because I can see if there were changes, and get a better idea of the extent of the hack
[14:31] <ChesterX> hey, i was wondering whether there was a tool that could show the current up/down load rate of the computer? (i am using an umts stick an really need to watch my "consumption")
[14:31] <mozura> Ok so it took some doing and poking around but I got to work more or less. THanks for all you help guys.
[14:32] <_Marcus> ChesterX: Find a large file(several GB) and download it with wget
[14:32] <_Marcus> ChesterX: This will tell you your speed while downloading it
[14:32] <sirlark> ChesterX: iptraffic for real time 'visual view' in a terminal, otherwise ifconfig tells you how much has been sent/recv on all your different network interfaces
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ChesterX: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html   may help
[14:33] <Trevor69420> chesterx.... ntop can do that
[14:34] <sirlark> ChesterX: otherwise, Gnome, KDE and XFCE (and presumably other DEs) have widgets for their panels which track network up/down rates in real time
[14:34] <ChesterX> ok thank you :-)
[14:34] <sirlark> ChesterX: but the best I've ever come across for your purposes was gkrellm's network monitor
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> can also be shown in conky too
[14:34] <sirlark> it displays the current bandwidth usage/second
[14:35] <sirlark> and mouseoer displays the total amount used by the interface (as reported by ifconfig)
[14:35] <sirlark> means you don't have to "watch ifconfig" in a terminal
[14:35] <lekremyelsew> Where do I set environment variables so that ~/.xsession knows what they are?
[14:36] <Eymber> Hello!  I could use some in-depth newbie help
[14:36] <Trevor69420> i still stand by ntop
[14:36] <Trevor69420> lol
[14:36] <Trevor69420> ntop not only tells u current bandwidth usage but also where it's going
[14:37] <lekremyelsew> Eymber: Don't ask if you can ask, just ask :)
[14:38] <Eymber> OK, I'm new to ubuntu, dont really know much about how to work it
[14:38] <Eymber> trying to play a movie, it says that I need to install something, then searches and fails to find the missing componant
[14:38] <Eymber> so i was going to install VideoLAN media player
[14:38] <Trevor69420> eymber what type of video file are you trying to play
[14:38] <theadmin> Eymber: Sure do that if you want
[14:39] <Eymber> but when I go to the website it says that I have to use synaptic
[14:39] <theadmin> Eymber: sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:39] <Eymber> and i dont have synaptic
[14:39] <Trevor69420> Eymber: Personally VLC is my favorite
[14:39] <Trevor69420> Eymber: yes you do
[14:39] <lekremyelsew> Eymber, You're missing the codecs you need to play whatever format the movie file is in
[14:39] <Eymber> tried that, it told me something.
[14:39] <Eymber> root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install VLC Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package VLC root@ubuntu:~#
[14:39] <Trevor69420> Eymber: synaptic is part of ubuntu desktop
[14:40] <Pici> Eymber: package names are case sensitive.
[14:40] <Trevor69420> Eymber: try sudo apt-get update
[14:40] <theadmin> Trevor69420: It's not anymore
[14:40] <Trevor69420> theadmin: WHAT?
[14:40] <theadmin> Eymber: http://www.unixmen.com/vlc-2-0-twoflower-has-been-released-ppa-ubuntu-and-linuxmint/ - instructions
[14:40] <theadmin> Trevor69420: Synaptic no longer comes preinstalled on Ubuntu
[14:40] <Trevor69420> oh that sux
[14:40] <Eymber> lol
[14:40] <Eymber> that worked.
[14:40] <Eymber> :D
[14:40] <Trevor69420> i've been on ubuntu server for so long now
[14:40] <Trevor69420> lol i have no idea whats going on
[14:41] <Eymber> so in genral, if I cant get something to work using the sudo apt-get command, I shoudl do an update?
[14:41] <Eymber> ..should**
[14:42] <dr_willis> update like once a day.
[14:42] <Eymber> oh, wow.
[14:42] <Eymber> I have a lot to learn.
[14:42] <dr_willis> befor you start apt getting
[14:42] <Eymber> Expect to see me here regularly.
[14:43] <Sarakun> HI,
[14:43] <lekremyelsew> Eymber, actually, you should update every time before you install programs
[14:43] <Skei> Hey all. I'm wondering if there's any known performance drop when using Ubuntu installed using Wubi compared to a system installed by LiveCD ?
[14:43] <dr_willis> no need to do it befer every apt get command
[14:43] <Eymber> Thank you all for the help. I'm sure I'll see you all again.
[14:44] <lekremyelsew> Eymber, if a program you're install depends on a new version of a library that has not been updated on your system, errors will most likely ensue
[14:44] <theadmin> Skei: Yes, and it's also much less stable
[14:44] <Eymber> lekremyelsew: so when I get the error, do the update?
[14:44] <theadmin> Eymber: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" about once a week, that's about it
[14:44] <lekremyelsew> Eymber, the situation that i described rarely happends
[14:45] <lekremyelsew> Eymber, but it can
[14:45] <godofwar> anyone know how to increase my current swap space?
[14:45] <Skei> theadmin, thanks. Time to nuke this system then. It keeps hanging, and it crashed earlier.
[14:45] <Eymber> lekremyelsew: : Thank you. :D <3
[14:45] <dr_willis> godofwar:  you can add a swap file if you wanted to
[14:45] <Eymber> I'm sure I'll bbl!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: how much RAM do you have?
[14:46] <sprung> hi there. I have successfully installed xrdp so i can log into my desktop using my android phone. The problem is I want to use my phone like a remote control, and if i pick a movie it tries to play the movie on the phone remote desktop rather that the desktop of the ubuntu system, where the tv is plugged in. How can I get the video to play on the local session, not the remote session?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> sprung: why not just use vlc with its web interface and vlc remote control?
[14:47] <sprung> is that what i need?
[14:47] <venon> in which step can i resize partition ?  of ubuntu ? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-10-10-160966.shtml
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> sprung: it will do what you want and is MUCH easier
[14:47] <sprung> ok
[14:47] <sprung> i will try it
[14:47] <dr_willis> sprung:  check out gmote for android or other upnp servers for the pc
[14:47] <Zaitzev> venon: Step 3 from what I can see.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> sprung: if you need remote access to a PC, try not to immediately reach for VNC etc. there are usually MUCH sleeker solutions
[14:48] <venon> Zaitzev ok ty
[14:48] <dr_willis> sprung: vlc and xbmc also have remote control features
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> yeah the xbmc remote app is pretty sweet too :)
[14:49] <fgera> hi
[14:49] <dr_willis> gmote can play on the phone or the pc.
[14:50] <bigbrovar> Hi guys I am looking for a good usb 5.1 surround capable sound card for linux.. can anyone recommend a good one? I am looking at the creative sound blaster X fi pro but I can't seem to find any information if that works with alsa on linux
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sprung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ0VlJ7Bvz4
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sprung: that sort of thing
[14:51] <wasser> hi I'm writing a shell script that uses a GREP command and I would like to do something like this grep '(word|$var)'. But of course that $var is interpreted as a string and it's not escaped as a variable. How do I obtain that result?
[14:52] <VictorCL> how can I go to the last directory I was in the command line?
[14:52] <theadmin> VictorCL: cd ..
[14:52] <VictorCL> no I was wrong . I want to go forward 1
[14:52] <theadmin> wasser: Use double quotes instead, i.e: grep "word|$var"
[14:53] <dr_willis> last dir.. pushcd or popcd i think
[14:53] <VictorCL> none of those works
[14:53] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: I have 12gig
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: why do you need more swap. 12gb is quite a lot (for normal desktop use)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: i'd even set vm.swappiness to something like 5 too:)
[14:54] <godofwar> dr_willis: the problem I am having is Ubuntu wont go into hibernation because my swap space is too small.  Will adding another swap file fix this?
[14:54] <Fire> VictorCL: cd -
[14:54] <fgera> any idea why I can run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31-pkg1.run on the terminal?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: ahh I see, you can resize partitions in liveCD
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fgera: the x server needs to be stopped.I sugget you run it in root recovery console
[14:55] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: currently my swap file is set to only 2gig.  The reason why I need it is because of hibernation mode.  Ubuntu flaw is that is doesn't save your windows and running applications when you shutdown.  Ergo hibernation
[14:55] <fgera> ActionParsnip, thanks. I'll try
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: not someting I use but I'm aware of what it is and how it works
[14:55] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: I like Ubuntu but linuxmint does this better
[14:56] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: ok so do you know how to increase swap space?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> (14:54:51) ActionParsnip: godofwar: ahh I see, you can resize partitions in liveCD
[14:56] <venon> what is ideal size for Swap ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> venon: for less than 2Gb RAM use 2.1xRAM, for more than 2Gb RAM use 1.1xRAM
[14:57] <godofwar> venon: take the size of you memory and multiple by 2
[14:57] <jack> venon: depends on what you usually do
[14:58] <carl__> lu
[14:58] <venon>  i have 4 gb RAM
[14:58] <godofwar> venon: then like ActionParsnip said use about 4gig for swap
[14:58] <wasser> theadmin, thanks. going to try it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> venon: then 4.1Gb is plenty
[14:58] <venon> jack : hm i dont play games
[14:59] <jack> games don't really matter anyway
[14:59] <venon> so when i have 4gb ram :D Swap will be  ?
[14:59] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: not finding an application called livecd.  I will try a terminal install.
[14:59] <jack> use 8gb
[14:59] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: still nothing
[15:00] <venon> jack 8 ? :D
[15:00] <venon> is it too much ?
[15:00] <jack> yup 8
[15:00] <jack> = 2x4
[15:01] <maury> can someone help me i got
[15:01] <lolcat^> How do I install radeon?
[15:01] <maury> a lot of crazy keyboard: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240
[15:01] <maury>  
[15:01] <maury> and the keyboard writesa
[15:02] <venon> hm they said 4 gig
[15:02] <venon> jack
[15:02] <maury> bunch of wierd characters everywhere
[15:02] <lolcat^> !radeon
[15:02] <venon> ActionParnsnip so 4gb swap when ihave 4gb ram ?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: the liveCD is the desktop CD you installed the OS with.....
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> venon: I always add an extra bit but 1xRAM is ok for more than 2Gb RAM
[15:04] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: i used an ISO from bootable thumbdrive.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: same difference
[15:05] <venon> ActionParsnip ok
[15:05] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: alright never done this before.  I will put in the thumbdrive now.  I dont need to reboot from it do I?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: yes, you will be resizing your partitions so they need to be unmounted. I suggest you run a full backup incase of catastrophe
[15:06] <Oer> venom the extra bytes are for videoram, cpu-cache, pci-cache and other important memory-setting.
[15:06] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: alright, I just wish there was a way to do this from Terminal.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: you can do it in terminal if you want, but in a terminal in the liveCD
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: you cannot resize a partition that is mounted, the partition need to be mounted for the OS to run
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: so you can use an OS loaded into RAM which is NOT on the partition you want to resize and it will be unmounted. You can then do as you wish
[15:08] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: ah I understand.  Sorry for my ignorance
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: np man, its all learning :)
[15:09] <in0cula> i disabled in the bios my wlan card because I use an external, but what i start ubuntu networkmanager cannot use the usb wifi card, why? pls help
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: did you setup the drivers and such for the USB device?
[15:10] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: isnt the Neponuk back not currently working with ubuntu 11.10?  I know this is a known error with the new distro version?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> godofwar: not something I use, sorry
[15:11] <Eymber> Ubuntu One:   Can I sync my Windows 7 files with it so I dont have to transfer from one OS to the other?
[15:11] <dr_willis> there is a windows ubuntu one clint i think
[15:11] <Eymber> kthanks~
[15:11] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, when i have enabled my wifi in the bios i can connect with the usb wifi without problem
[15:12] <fgera> ActionParsnip, no luck run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31-pkg1.run in root recovery mode
[15:12] <john_doe_jr> hey, how do you install JDK 1.6 ?
[15:13] <dr_willis> !java
[15:15] <VictorCL> Found a swap file by the name ".index.php.swp"
[15:15] <VictorCL> what shoul I do .. I keep getting this message
[15:16] <jacobrask> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04 from usb but it just stops at SYSLINUX EBIOS
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> fgera: what were the messages given? simply saying "no luck" tells us noting.....
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jacobrask: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 things
[15:17] <wiehan> Hi everyone. I have just made a fresh install of 12.04 beta (latest release), set up my partition as follows: Separate /home and / partition. Installation went fine.  At the pretty login screen I try to log in as my user, the screen then turns black (there is some ghostly illegible writing in the centre of the screen for a second) and logs back out again. I can't log in to my account. I can log into a guest account without any probl
[15:17] <wiehan> ems (this is how I am online now)
[15:17] <theadmin> !precise | wiehan
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> wiehan: it does tell you in the motd when you joined the channel....
[15:18] <wiehan> Ok. Sorry.
[15:19] <dave2012> I'm having trouble cd'ing to my desktop
[15:19] <Kartman> Dave:whats the error?
[15:19] <dr_willis> dave2012:   cd Desktop
[15:19] <dr_willis> not desktop
[15:19]  * dr_willis guesses
[15:20] <Kartman> Happens to me all the time
[15:20] <dave2012> I'm trying to make/install etc but cannot find the file :(
[15:20] <dr_willis> linux is case senestuve
[15:20] <lolcat^> Why is it impossible to install  the ati driver for 6410D?
[15:20] <Dolton> is anyone able to help me: what command give me all ./*/cgi-bin/*.pl files? i tried find ./ -print0 | grep -FzZ `cgi-bin/*.pl` but it gives nothing
[15:20] <mauke> ls ./*/cgi-bin/*.pl
[15:21] <dr_willis> im not sure * works that way
[15:21] <in0cula> i need to disable my internal wifi, i did by bios but why windows manager ignore my external usb? any help pls
[15:21] <dave2012> I put cd /Desktop and without the slash, no such file?
[15:21] <dr_willis> dave2012:  pwd says what
[15:22] <Dolton> make but i need to use a rm on every single hit, is this possible?
[15:22] <fgera> ActionParsnip "can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31-pkg1.run"
[15:22] <wylde> dave2012: try cd ~/Desktop
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: I thought you said you could connect via the usb ok?...
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> fgera: then you need to change the prompts location to where you are storing the file
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> fgera: the file also need to be marked as executable
[15:23] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, yes i can if i enable the bios
[15:23] <dave2012> ahhh! yay!! thanks guys ;)
[15:23] <wylde> :)
[15:23] <fgera> ActionParsnip, where should I store it?
[15:23] <wylde> dave2012:  ~ denotes your home folder
[15:23] <dave2012> brilliant
[15:24] <dave2012> many thanks
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fgera: there is no coreect place, just remember where it is, then change the directory to that folder and you can then run it
[15:24] <imi> Hello
[15:24] <_Marcus> hi imi
[15:24] <Guest89150> Has somebody an invitation for quora ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fgera: you will need to use:    ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31-pkg1.run       so that the interpretter looks in the present directory
[15:24] <mneptok> !ot > Guest89150
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest89150: that is offtopic here, this is ubuntu support only
[15:25] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, i want to disable the internal wifi because i don't need it, because i go well with the usb wifi, but when i disable it via bios even the  usb disappear from networkmanager....if i do iwconfig is ther bu i cannot use it to connect because networkmanager ignore it
[15:26] <dr_willis> in0cula:  just turn off internal via software perhaps
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: if you unplug it the n plug it back in once booted, does it help?
[15:26] <Dolton> mauke: but i need to use a rm on every single hit, is this possible?
[15:26] <in0cula> dr_willis, how i can do it? any idea?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: obviously when the internel is disabled.
[15:26] <mauke> rm ./*/cgi-bin/*.pl
[15:26] <wylde> in0cula: what dr_willis said, you can disable individual wifi adapters from network manager
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: if the internel is a mini-pci device you could just unplug it
[15:26] <godofwar> ActionParsnip: thnx resizing swap worked like a charm.
[15:27] <dr_willis> i dont see much need disable it.
[15:27] <in0cula> how can i disabled in software way?
[15:28] <wylde> dr_willis: when I have my usb and internal wifi going I have to either connect one to a different network or disable it, because my auto-conect rules will connect both to the same network
[15:28] <fgera> ActionParsnip, ok. I'll be back :)
[15:28] <in0cula> if i do sudo ifconfig wlan0 down, it emerge again after few seconds
[15:29] <wylde> dr_willis: and routing gets all buggered up when you are connected to the same network on 2 interfaces
[15:29] <dr_willis> merge them both.. get faster speeds. ;)
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: you could blacklist  the driver for the inbuilt device
[15:29] <dr_willis> id have to wonder how much slower a usb nic is..
[15:30] <PhantomPhreak53> I was in here a bit yesterday but had to go. I am still having an issue and can't figure it out. Basically it looks like a PPA messed up some of my packages. When I try to run an apt-get upgrade I get this error: http://pastebin.com/9UnuvwCX
[15:30] <josvuk> Hello, Is there someting in the umbunut documentation about how the system boots up? which scripts are executete and how to change the runlevels
[15:30] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, cuold you please tell me how to find the right wifi card and how to block it?
[15:30] <josvuk> I'm on ubuntu 10.04LTE(PPC)
[15:31] <t3x> Hello folks, is there anyways that i can make backup for my local machines from my ubuntu server.?
[15:31] <ai> how can i get my Geforce GT 520M working ? i've tried activated in additional drivers .. && and also tried NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.20.run from Nvidia.com... help!!
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 480mbps for USB2   should be ok for most things
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: with the internal enabled, boot the OS and run:  sudo lshw -C network     look for the words:  driver=      you can then blacklist that driver by running:  echo "blacklist foo" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf     change footo the actual module name
[15:33] <arand> ai: Do you have switchable graphics? (e.g. intel 3000/geforce)
[15:34] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, thank you very much, i'll do it. thx
[15:34] <ai> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df7 (rev ff)
[15:34] <in0cula> ubuntu is very nice distro
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ai: you can get the 290 driver from the xorg edgers updates ppa (less fresh more stable). 295 is beta afaik
[15:35] <Phinnay> hey
[15:35] <Phinnay> got a weird one...
[15:35] <Phinnay> got a ubuntu server 11.10
[15:35] <ai> ActionParsnip:  i
[15:35] <Phinnay> that whenever i go to log in, kicks me right out
[15:35] <ai> ActionParsnip: i've tried 280 * too
[15:35] <alt^255> greetings. am I the only one whose python 3.x stopped working since upgrading to 10.10?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ai: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:36] <Phinnay> if i do it at console ,i get the MOTD and then right back to login:
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> alt^255: wow you are behind aren't you
[15:36] <ai> thx ActionParsnip i'll try
[15:36] <arand> ActionParsnip: ai: I though you needed bumblebee for that to work...
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Phinnay: what message do you get on screen?
[15:37] <alt^255> ActionParsnip: er...?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> arand: is it dual GPU nonesense?
[15:37] <Phinnay> promts for username, i enter it
[15:37] <Phinnay> prompts for password, i enter it
[15:37] <Phinnay> looks like its' logging in, shows the MOTD
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> arand: bumblebee is no more afaik, its ironhide now :)
[15:37] <Phinnay> and then immediately back to the login: prompt
[15:37] <arand> ActionParsnip: Pretty much every new laptop with intel has it, I guess.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Phinnay: what if you log in as a different user, make a new one if you need to test
[15:38] <ai> arand: bumblee work for me little bit.. i can see some affect drop shadow (but it doen't use my Nvidia Card)
[15:38] <Phinnay> tried with another user on the system and same thing
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> arand: only ones with extra GPUs using sandy bridge ;)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ai: dual GPUs cause a lot of headaches and AMD and Nvidia have said they will not be supporting the technology in anything but windows.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ai: there is ironhide which may help but imho its best to just avoid it alltogether
[15:39] <Phinnay> and, i cant make a new user, since i cant log in to the computer
[15:40] <Dolton> how i can load a system with chroot which is mounted in /mnt?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Phinnay: you can boot to live CD and chroot in....
[15:40] <Phinnay> i've booted up with the ubuntu 11 CD and selected the 'repair a system prompt
[15:40] <Phinnay> buuut, im not sure where to look /  why this would happen
[15:41] <ai> ActionParsnip: but why nvidia released drivers which doen't work for the card :(
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> ai: they do work, its just theres some nasty harware switch in the way. The card does work
[15:41] <jadoe> I'd like to remap ctrl+c/v/x/t/w/q to alt+c/v/x/t/w/q without switching alt and ctrl globally. Possible?
[15:41] <Dolton> ActionParsnip: how i can chroot a system which is mounted to /mnt/?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Dolton: absolutely
[15:42] <Dolton> ActionParsnip: ?? and how?
[15:42] <arand> ActionParsnip: IronHide and "The Project" Bumblebee are currently parallel, but I get the impression that BB is the better of them.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Dolton: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[15:43] <Dolton> ActionParsnip: chroot /mnt thorws a error
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> arand: not sure, just what i've heard around. I'll be avoiding it like Paris Hilton avoid talent
[15:43] <testubuntu> How to hide error messages automaticly in libnotify in gnome shell?
[15:43] <Dolton> ActionParsnip: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error <-- this is all i get
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Dolton: is the liveCD you are booting to, the same arch as the installed OS?
[15:44] <Dolton> ActionParsnip:
[15:44] <Dolton> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Dolton: I'd reboot to the liveCD and run through the commands in the link I gave, works great here
[15:45] <fgera> ActionParsnip, I've changed the directory of the nvidia drivers file. I can now open it but not in root recovery mode as it says the directory where I put it do not exist...
[15:45] <noob_at_work> Why would you people use ubuntu?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> fgera: were the system partitions mounted and such?
[15:45] <testubuntu> If anybody can help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9569371/how-to-hide-error-messages-automaticly-in-libnotify-in-gnome-shell
[15:46] <oCean> noob_at_work: general discussion/chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for technical support issues
[15:46] <in0cula> ActionParsnip, THX it worked, in this manner the wifi is OFF, don't emit any signals right? iwconfig has only the usb. good job
[15:46] <fgera> ActionParsnip, I'm using all disk for ubuntu with no partitions. is this a problem?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: sweet :)
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> fgera: well you need to access the file you downloaded...
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> fgera: so at least the system partition needs to be mounted
[15:49] <luxius> is there an "easy" way to revert mysql to "factory settings"? I was messing around with it, now I'm not sure what's what.
[15:50] <fgera> ActionParsnip, I tought the same way I access to the file in normal mode would be enough in root recovery mode. if I run    cd Documents    I can run nvidia drivers file but not in recovery mode
[15:51] <axisys> how do I get mouse on text only terminal?  alt+ctlr+f1  takes me to tty1 and I login.. but mouse does not work. do I need gpm? I dont see gpm running
[15:52] <fgera> ActionParsnip, I got it
[15:52] <fgera> ActionParsnip, brb
[15:54] <theadmin> axisys: You can't use the mouse on a plain console...
[15:54] <PhantomPhreak53> glebihan: you around?
[15:56] <pranavk> i am adding new users to the system, i have also set the DIR_MODE = 700, but the directories that are being made in the home directory are including the permission 'S' also in the group, why ?
[15:56] <axisys> theadmin: I can.. I just had to install gpm and then start it
[15:56] <ioni> hey
[15:56] <ioni> is there any issues with 12.04beta1 and virtualbox?
[15:56] <ioni> http://ompldr.org/vY3h3aA
[15:57] <ioni> i cannot boot the iso
[15:57] <ioni> CPU is intel core 2 duo
[15:57] <haylo> i reallu dont understand how to add wireless to my netinstall- i have openbox +wicd and nm-applet instaled. but i cant get wicd gui to come up
[15:57] <oCean> ioni: support for 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:57] <ioni> ok thanks
[15:57] <VictorCL> whats the command to show me where I am exactly
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> VictorCL  pwd
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> present working directory or so, is what it stands for
[15:58] <raido> theadmin: Yeah, mouse support in in the tty as been around for longer that Ubuntu.
[15:58] <VictorCL> ok thankz
[15:58] <theadmin> raido: I see
[15:59] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: "print working directory", actually.
[16:07] <VictorCL> something's wrong with my termina
[16:07] <VictorCL> it get stuck ...
[16:08] <VictorCL> the cursor goes everywhere sometimes
[16:08] <p1l0t>        ctrl-c
[16:08] <VictorCL> start writing on top of other letters
[16:12] <gagan> please tell me how to connect to wifi secured by username and pwd
[16:16] <Oer> !wireless | gagan
[16:17] <designbybeck_> SECURITY QUESTION: The wifi login on Ubuntu/Kubuntu, even for the most secure PEAP / Enterprise password login, can been seen with "Show Password" , How in the world can this be considered secure. If you are trying to login to your companies wifi with your credentials. and all anyone has to do is click Show Password, now they know your companies login info!?
[16:18] <Calinou> <_< troll spotted
[16:18] <Calinou> just don't let the connection dialog on when you leave your computer, problem solved?
[16:18] <theadmin> designbybeck_: Uh, store the passwords in a keyring?
[16:19] <designbybeck_> Calinou: we have laptops we use for training
[16:19] <Calinou> however if you can see the password already typed... well
[16:19] <pcfreak30> Hello, could ayone give me a resolution for this error in pulse audio
[16:19] <sun_devil> I have a file I unzipped in Downloads, then gave me a blue dir, how do I access that directory?
[16:19] <theadmin> designbybeck_: Also, you need to lock the screen when you're away from your system.
[16:20] <designbybeck_> theadmin: but we have no way to get on wireless unless they use their creditials to login to PEAP
[16:20] <pcfreak30> http://pastie.org/private/kjjpdvidm1qcw0bgojvrdw
[16:20] <pcfreak30> ?
[16:20] <pcfreak30> ?
[16:20] <theadmin> designbybeck_: Yes, so? You need to store the password encrypted, not in plain text
[16:20] <designbybeck_> how do you do that locally?
[16:21] <pcfreak30> sun_devil, if its more than 1 file it creates a folder of the archive name in the folder it was extracted
[16:21] <pranavk> i am adding new users to the system, i have also set the DIR_MODE = 700 in adduser.conf , but the directories that are being made in the home directory are including the permission 'S' always, why ?
[16:21] <Aster> Hi, I have a FTP/SSH server, and I was wondering how I could remove the need of root access to access a file?
[16:21] <megamanx1978> I am using 12.04 and cannot install wine
[16:22] <Calinou> chmod?
[16:22] <Pici> megamanx1978 : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:22] <Aster> Calinou, huh?
[16:24] <sun_devil> pcfreak38, So in downloads, I now a (2) files with same name except one has .zip, how do I open the second file to see the contents?
[16:24] <sun_devil> pcfreak38, I did a cd /home/user/Downloads/directory
[16:25] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil:  u can use unzip ?
[16:26] <Birk_> Hey, anyone knows a command to get the number of connections on a determinated port ?
[16:26] <pdtpatr1ck> check whether it is installed, if it isn't then install it. Check with "dpkg -l unzip" and to install "sudo apt-get install unzip"
[16:26] <sun_devil> I did unzip it, its some sort of a bash file sitting in my downloads
[16:26] <pdtpatr1ck> Birk_: you can start with "netstat -lanp | grep :<portnum>
[16:26] <megamanx1978> Pici There is a reason I prefer the main channel and that is becouse this is the only place I can get help
[16:27] <Pici> megamanx1978: Precise is not supported in here. Only in #ubuntu+1
[16:27] <Birk_> pdtpatr1ck: i'll try that, thanx !
[16:27] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: I did unzip it, its some sort of a bash file sitting in my downloads
[16:27] <nishttal2> Hi all, over the last week I have been getting "The Flash plugin was blocked because its is out of date." message on my Chrome browser.. I have tried to update several times but the message wont go away.. what can I do?
[16:27] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil:  what are you trying to? Now that the files have been unzipped. Are you trying to view it or run it?
[16:27] <nishttal2> I am running 64bit ubuntu
[16:28] <theadmin> nishttal2: You need to uninstall Flash and upgrade Chrome. Chrome has flash built-in, installing another version will cause such nonsense.
[16:29] <nishttal2> theadmin, how do I unstall Flash
[16:29] <nishttal2> theadmin, there is a "Adobe Flash plugin" (for mozilla) .. is that the one i need to uninstall?
[16:29] <theadmin> nishttal2: yeah
[16:30] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: not sure, asked my teacher and he said to unzip.  I tried to view it, vi filename, but does not seem right, also tried cat.
[16:31] <nishttal2> theadmin, i uninstalled that.. and restarted chrome.. is still get the out of date flash message
[16:31] <viktor133> i just installed 11.10 from a alternative cd, and i can't boot, the screen is just black, maybe a problem with video mode settings?? anyway, all i have now is a grub command line. any help pls?
[16:31] <theadmin> nishttal2: I did say you need to upgrade Chrome as well.
[16:31] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil: run this "file <filename>"  -- this will tell you what type of file it is.
[16:31] <nishttal2> theadmin, yeah but before that i thought i'll check if Flash was uninstalled.. but it seems its still there
[16:31] <pdtpatr1ck> without the quotes of course
[16:31] <theadmin> nishttal2: Eh, told you Chrome has built-in Flash which it uses.
[16:32] <theadmin> nishttal2: about:plugins can tell you if you have 1 or 2 flash versions
[16:32] <sun_devil> directory
[16:32] <grumbly> Has anyone here had any problems with VLC and h.264 playback suddenly not... um... playing?
[16:33] <nishttal2> theadmin, in about:plugins  i see.. Flash - Version: 10.3 d162 Download Critical Security Update, Shockwave Flash 10.3 d162
[16:33] <Sarakun> Hi,
[16:33] <sun_devil> Did a vi and it shows Directory listing and path, display, forloop, whileloop  ?
[16:34] <Sarakun> Hello,
[16:35] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil: did u run the command i told you to run? it will tell you what type of file it is. If you are looking at a bash file. Then to run it - you would "bash <filename>". But i don't recommend running a bash file if u don't know what it contains or who it is from.
[16:35] <nishttal2> theadmin, yoohoo that did it.. thanks for your help man :)
[16:35] <theadmin> nishttal2: Cool. I'm not a man though. Don't assume.
[16:36] <nishttal2> theadmin, oops sorry
[16:37] <TheFalkorr> sup
[16:37] <Aster> Hi, I have a FTP/SSH server, and I was wondering how I could remove the need of root access to access a file?
[16:37] <TheFalkorr> can someone help me with ppa?
[16:38] <axisys> designbybeck_: OTP auth should help
[16:38] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: says it a directory.
[16:38] <pdtpatr1ck> Aster: check the documentation for whatever software you installed. If you installed for instance ProFTPd then check out their docs
[16:38] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil:  then go in the directory. cd <directory>
[16:38] <marek_> Aster: make it readable/writable by anyone? (chmod a+rw filename.bin)
[16:38] <designbybeck_> hmmm
[16:38] <pdtpatr1ck> marek_:  he wants to remove access, not add
[16:39] <TheFalkorr> for example. i have linux sources from kernel.org. i have some patch. how to make <source.changes> to dput on ppa?
[16:39] <Aster> marek_, It's for a webserver, and I get refused access to the folder, and It's a directory I want to change, not a file.
[16:39] <axisys> designbybeck_: if it allows radius auth then enable radius on rsa securid server.. now radius login using your securid fob and voila .. even if some sees you typing and memorize completely still it is secure..
[16:40] <__Alex_> Aster: What's the error you're getting?
[16:40] <sun_devil> ok, I was typing wrong cd /directory.  Like you said cd directory
[16:40] <Aster> Can I paste a link?
[16:40] <__Alex_> Ofcourse
[16:40] <Aster> http://ems.cserv.co/
[16:41] <Guest21791> Hello.
[16:41] <axisys> designbybeck_: although someone can argue that is not secure either with MTM
[16:41] <designbybeck_> way above me  axisys, i was just trying to get the faculty to login to the training laptops with out having them type their campus ID into the show password area
[16:41] <axisys> MITM*
[16:41] <__Alex_> Aster: I think "chmod a+r foldername" should do the trick
[16:41] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: got into it, gives me files display, forloop, selectry, whileloop ?
[16:41] <TheFalkorr> someone?
[16:41] <Aster> Okay
[16:42] <axisys> designbybeck_: well.. all I am saying if you want security there.. you need to look into OTP
[16:42] <Guest21791> How much of an impression is "Ubuntu for Android" making on manufactures?
[16:42] <__Alex_> And all the files you want people to access too, (Eg. index.php)
[16:42] <designbybeck_> ok, thanks axisys
[16:42] <axisys> designbybeck_: I was giving you an example on how we use RSA securid for that..
[16:43] <pdtpatr1ck> sun_devil: how many files are in that directory? do "ls -l" .. so looks like they are bash files rom the name of it. Now you can use "vi <filename>" or use "gedit <filename>"
[16:43] <Guest21791> Am I even at the right place to be talking about Ubuntu for Android?
[16:43] <__Alex_> yes, guest
[16:44] <Guest21791> Okay, just making sure.
[16:44] <axisys> Guest21791: probably #android-dev or #ubuntu-arm as well ?
[16:44] <messinese90> ciao a tutti
[16:44] <TheFalkorr> or where to ask about?
[16:45] <__Alex_> Ubuntu has an ARM port? :O I didn't know. nice to hear. (Puts ubuntu on his tablet)
[16:45] <axisys> __Alex_: yes
[16:45] <axisys> __Alex_: there is a hardy ubuntu img avalaible as well to run on top of android as VM
[16:46] <Kr0nZ> Hi, is their anyone that can help me get my HVR 2250 tuner card working, dmesg shows my card being detected and firmware installed, but when i try to do mplayer /dev/video0 i just get a blank screen, im using 11.04
[16:46] <axisys> might be karmic .. dont remember
[16:46] <viktor133> can't boot, only black screen. any help pls?
[16:47] <axisys> viktor133: can you boot from a CD ?
[16:47] <celthunder> viktor133: how far does it get before black screen does single user mode work
[16:48] <jhutchins_wk> On 11.10, I have gnome-screensaver installed, but I can't find where to change the settings.
[16:48] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: did vi on the files. I thought they would display work I did ?  Looks like they are scripts
[16:48] <viktor133> celthunder, nothing works, only with recovery mode do i get root shell axisys, nope, installed from altenative cd because regular didn't work
[16:48] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: Just started learning this stuff
[16:48] <inaayat> Hello everyone !
[16:49] <wylde> viktor133: moment, you may need to boot using nomodeset
[16:49] <inaayat> Does anybody know how to install Paint?
[16:49] <celthunder> viktor133: ok so boot to init 3 and fix your x config
[16:49] <ozpy> Hi!. How can I install the Acrobat PDF reader plug-in in FIREFOX?
[16:49] <sun_devil> pdtpatlck: What the command to run a script?
[16:50] <viktor133> wylde, i tried to edit the grub file, but don't think i managed. celthunder, don't understand
[16:50] <inaayat> ozpy : If Firefox asking that choose the first one !
[16:50] <celthunder> ezpy same as you would in windows
[16:50] <Aster> __Alex_, it doesn't work :/
[16:50] <ozpy> inaayat: how can I get it?
[16:50] <celthunder> sun_devil: intepretor script
[16:50] <ozpy> I can't from Add-on
[16:50] <wylde> viktor133: maybe this page will help?
[16:50] <wylde> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:50] <inaayat> ozpy : Just Google it ,
[16:51] <inaayat> PDF reader for ubuntu or like that?
[16:51] <frojnd> Hi there. Can anyone suggest me a program that I can install on ubuntu, so I can remotely control ubuntu from windows xp and it's built in rdc?
[16:51] <celthunder> viktor133: boot to init 1 change your default boot to init 3 and fix your x then set default boot back to init 5
[16:51] <__Alex_> Aster: Well, IDK anything about Web hosting, so i'm sorry
[16:51] <Aster> Alright.
[16:51] <celthunder> frojnd: vnc
[16:51] <viktor133> wylde, already have this page open :)
[16:51] <inaayat> When Im on the ¨Ubuntu Software center¨ I says my this : There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks.
[16:51] <ozpy> Iinaayat: I tried the sudo apt-get install acrobat plug-in and did not work. It seems that its plug-in is no longer supported
[16:51] <inaayat> I can not download files :( !?!?
[16:52] <celthunder> inaayat: what happens when you use apt in a terminal
[16:52] <__Alex_> ozpy: What about getting it from get.adobe.com/reader ?
[16:52] <Aster> __Alex_, it still won't let me upload files via FTP.
[16:52] <ozpy> __Alex_ : let me see
[16:52] <wylde> viktor133: lol alrighty :) As far as I know the nomodeset option helps in a majority of the "blank screen" issues.
[16:52] <inaayat> celthunder : Cannot open administrator blablabla...
[16:53] <frojnd> celthunder: so I install vnc server on ubuntu, and set password and forward port on the router. And then I go to America on windows and connect to my ubuntu computer from rdc to vnc???
[16:53] <celthunder> inaayat: su or sudo up
[16:53] <inaayat> celthunder : sudo ...
[16:53] <__Alex_> ozpy: Select different OS, and pick Linux Deb one
[16:53] <Xphazer> msg nickserv identify Xphazer jean777benoit
[16:53] <gvo> frojnd: are you doing this across the internet?
[16:53] <LjL> !identify > Xphazer
[16:54] <inaayat> celthunder : If i use some codes... the first 2 will fully complete but the last one doest complete,
[16:54] <frojnd> gvo: yes
[16:54] <inaayat> celthunder : It says my : cannot open administrator blablabla....
[16:54] <gvo> Do you have a firewall on the Linux side?
[16:54] <celthunder> frojnd: you cant use rdp in linux there are lots of vnc clients and servers for both though
[16:54] <frojnd> gvo: my main question is if there is a program I can install on ubuntu and default rdc wil lknow how to operate with it
[16:54] <frojnd> celthunder: I'm limited to rdc on windows...
[16:54] <viktor133> wylde, i only got vi available here, not really experienced with it (excuse my noobness), it says "unable to open swap file, recovery impossible" so i can edit it, right?
[16:55] <gvo> Yes vnc will recognize vnc or used to anyway.
[16:55] <celthunder> inaayat: yeah idid you use sudo or su when you ran apt
[16:55] <gvo> I haven't used it in a while.
[16:55] <frojnd> gvo: vnc to vnc I KNOW .. .but rdc to vnc?
[16:55] <inaayat> celthunder : I use sudo
[16:55] <wylde> celthunder:  there are RDP clients for linux apt-cache search terminal server client
[16:55] <gvo> At one time under XP yes.
[16:55] <celthunder> viktor133: delete the swap file from fstab what happens
[16:55] <dommer>  oh hey look, 5 billion people
[16:55] <frojnd> gvo: ok so I install vnc servr on ubuntu and I can connect to my ubuntu from rdc on windows
[16:56] <celthunder> wylde: hmm good to know
[16:56] <gvo> As I said, once upon a time that worked.
[16:56] <celthunder> dommer: what
[16:56] <gvo> Can't say it does any longer.
[16:56] <celthunder> inaayat: ok gan you pastebin the entire error pleaso
[16:56] <inaayat> celthunder : ok wait 1 minute
[16:56] <wylde> viktor133: you're booted into your install or on a live boot?
[16:56] <dommer> celthunder: 5billion people in the room sir
[16:57] <ozpy> __Alex_: That;s not a Firefox plug-in
[16:57] <Ferris314> hmm. im trying to use an ubuntu disc to copy files from a dying hard drive to an external hdd
[16:57] <gaussblurinc> hello! i install libgmp with software manager. how to use it in qt-projects?
[16:57] <celthunder> dommer: no there are not 1626 or so
[16:57] <__Alex_> ozpy: But it should install one
[16:57] <Ferris314> i cannot. get to the gui without installing it seems. ill check the version real quick
[16:57] <ozpy> __Alex_: I have that.
[16:58] <Ferris314> after a real slow restart heh
[16:58] <ozpy> Let me try something
[16:58] <viktor133> wylde, no the system is installed (from alternative cd, text-based), i'm in recovery mode
[16:58] <celthunder> Ferris314: why do you need a gui for that and the disks should boot to gui if hardware is suported with built in modules
[16:58] <dommer> celthunder: so.  who's being literal?
[16:58] <inaayat> selthunder : it says my this : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:58] <inaayat> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:58] <viktor133> wylde, vi gives an errror "can't open file for writing"
[16:58] <__Alex_> Why can't ubuntu have such awesome dicumentation as arch has? :(
[16:59] <celthunder> inaayat: kill all runnin apt ano software managers and then rm the lock file
[16:59] <celthunder> then try again
[16:59] <Ferris314> celthunder: i need gui for that because i suck at linux and am moderately scared of messing things up with command line
[16:59] <wylde> viktor133: are you starting vi with sudo?
[16:59] <inaayat> celthunder : How to kill ? :S
[16:59] <celthunder> __Alex_: i am in arch love it
[16:59] <Phinnay> Ubuntu server 11.10 will not allow me to log on - I type my username and password at console, it shows Welcome to Ubunto and then kicks me right back to a login prompt. Booted with Live CD and mounted / . What should I look at next?
[16:59] <wylde> viktor133: sudo vi <filename>
[16:59] <celthunder> inaayat: ps auxf | grep apt
[16:59] <viktor133> wylde, i'm root in some recovery shell
[17:00] <gvo> frojnd: Otherwise this might be what you are looking for  http://www.rdesktop.org/
[17:00] <__Alex_> celthunder: I'm also a Arch fan
[17:00] <celthunder> inaayat: then kill -9 the pids
[17:00] <viktor133> wylde i'm trying to edit /etc/default/grub with vi
[17:00] <inaayat> WHAT ??!?!?
[17:00] <inaayat> I DONT UNDERSTAND >!
[17:00] <dommer> LOL
[17:00] <axisys> Phinnay: can you login to one of the text-based ttys ?
[17:00] <ikonia> inaayat: calm down please.
[17:01] <celthunder> __Alex_: :) idle in here to feel useful the people in arch document and then ask intelligent questions i cant answer
[17:01] <inaayat> ikonia : sorry, but i want to fix something,
[17:01] <wylde> viktor133: shouldn't give you a hassle if you're root.. moment reading
[17:01] <ikonia> inaayat: simple solution - reboot your box and it will close all open sessions
[17:01] <celthunder> isakov: which part
[17:01] <ikonia> inaayat: you can then use the package manager
[17:01] <celthunder> er inaayat what
[17:01] <celthunder> inaayat: which part
[17:01] <__Alex_> celthunder: Lol, same here XD
[17:01] <ikonia> inaayat: you can do it in more detail but you don't seem to understand so a reboot is a quick and clean fix
[17:01] <inaayat> ikonia : How to boot ?!!?!?!
[17:02] <Phinnay> (axisys): I'ts a server with no GUI - so its all text based
[17:02] <ikonia> inaayat: type "reboot" in the command line
[17:02] <axisys> Phinnay: so can you login as root?
[17:02] <celthunder> ikonia: he needs to rm his lock file and kill all current apt and aptitudes running not reboot
[17:02] <gvo> Pull the plug out of the wall and walk away :)
[17:02] <inaayat> Where is the command line ?
[17:02] <wylde> viktor133: have you tried using the grub editor to add the nomodeset?
[17:02] <ikonia> celthunder: it won't be the lock file needs removing, it will be it can't get a lock on it
[17:02] <inaayat> Sorry for everything but its my first time on linux :P
[17:02] <ikonia> a reboot should fix it clean and simple
[17:02] <__Alex_> Does Ubuntu have a PPC port loke Debian? I would like to try is on my G5
[17:03] <__Alex_> *like
[17:03] <cats333> yeah theres ppc ubuntu
[17:03] <axisys> Phinnay: you really should be in #ubuntu-server .. i assumed you are on desktop since you are on this channel
[17:03] <Phinnay> (axisys): nope, every user on the system is getting the same issue
[17:03] <ikonia> __Alex_: there is a PPC port, but it is not as well maintained/stable
[17:03] <cats333> I tried it yesterday :)
[17:03] <ikonia> __Alex_: it's a community supported build
[17:03] <Phinnay> oooh, was not aware that existed!
[17:03] <Siegel-> hello. i installed 12.04 a few days ago and i just did a fresh reinstall of 11.10. my wireless network card will not work. i tried extracting the needed firmware and it still wont work. will a restart do it?
[17:03] <inaayat> ikonia : where is the command line ?!!?!?!
[17:03] <Phinnay> thanks!!
[17:03] <cats333> 10.04 seems to work well
[17:03] <inaayat> ikonia : sorry first time on linux :P
[17:03] <celthunder> Siegel-: what card
[17:03] <viktor133> wylde how do i get to the grub editor?
[17:03] <ikonia> inaayat: where you are typing
[17:03] <ikonia> inaayat: yes, you've said
[17:03] <inaayat> reboot
[17:03] <Siegel-> celthunder: BCM4318
[17:03] <sun_devil> I running the script, did a ./scriptname received a permission denied
[17:03] <celthunder> inaayat: ctrl alt f1
[17:04] <Ferris314> ahaha Siegel-, i always had that problem on fresh install too.. do you know which wireless card you have?
[17:04] <Siegel-> Ferris314: BCM4318, its supported by b43
[17:04] <Ferris314> and do
[17:04] <Siegel-> or so i read
[17:04] <gaussblurinc> how to include gmp lib in qt-project?
[17:04] <wylde> viktor133: when you boot, does it go to the grub boot menu?
[17:04] <celthunder> Siegel-: did you blacklist the other ones
[17:05] <Siegel-> celthunder: no and i dont know how to
[17:05] <sun_devil> Thanks, got it
[17:05] <inaayat> ikonia : If i say : reboot then is say reboot need it ?
[17:05] <inaayat> or something like that
[17:05] <inaayat> it says : Need to be reboot
[17:05] <inaayat> ...?
[17:06] <celthunder> Siegel-: make a file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[17:06] <Siegel-> celthunder: i typed this into a terminal: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer. it downloaded some stuff but i am still unable to enable my wireless
[17:06] <wylde> viktor133: if it doesn't, hold shift down after the bios loads to get the menu, then select the entry you want to edit woth your arrow keys, and hit e instead of enter
[17:06] <viktor133> wylde don't think so, i can choose between regular kernel boot (which results in black screen) or recovery mode, which gives me a few more options like dropping to root shell
[17:06] <gvo> inaayat: Need to be root perhaps?
[17:06] <Siegel-> celthunder: oh god, i have no idea what that means. forgive me.
[17:06] <viktor133> wylde or memtest
[17:06] <inaayat> gvo : Yeah like that
[17:06] <wylde> viktor133:  yes, instead of hitting enter, you press e
[17:06] <inaayat> gvo : if i restart my computer it is the same i think ?
[17:06] <gvo> inaayat: sudo reboot
[17:07] <FoLLe_SiCiLiAnA> < Un SaLuTo a TuTto #ubuntu >
[17:07] <gvo> inaayat: yes
[17:07] <celthunder> Siegel-: yeah there should be a few modules that need blacklisting i dont have a broadcom though so not sure which ones sorry
[17:07] <FoLLe_SiCiLiAnA>  C i A u U z Z ~¤~ A ~¤~ T u T t I i ~¤~ G e N t E ~¤~ 
[17:07] <FoLLe_SiCiLiAnA> `·.¸¸.·»•CiaõOo•«.¸¸.·´
[17:07] <wylde> viktor133: it will allow you to enter the nomodeset before you boot
[17:07] <Siegel-> celthunder: its ok. last time i had 11.10 it worked automatically. what could have gone wrong this time?
[17:07] <gartral> it's shift after grub too get to the recovery console, right?
[17:07] <srini> http://goterminal.blogspot.in/2012/02/opensuse-122-milestone-2-has-been.html
[17:07] <celthunder> FoLLe_SiCiLiAnA: stop it
[17:07] <Siegel-> Ferris314: do you have any idea?
[17:07] <ikonia> srini: any reason you are posting that ?
[17:08] <gvo> Siegel-: network manager is a piece of trash.
[17:08] <__Alex_> gvo: So use WICD
[17:08] <gvo> I've had better luck with wicd.
[17:08] <Siegel-> gvo i dont know what wicd is
[17:08] <srini> ikonia, need your review
[17:08] <celthunder> gartral: add a 1 no the kernel line
[17:08] <gvo> apt-get install wicd
[17:08] <__Alex_> Siegel: WICD is a lightweight Network manager
[17:08] <ikonia> srini: this channels ubuntu support, not a news blogging channel, so please don't post it unless it has relevence to your ubuntu support issue
[17:08] <celthunder> Siegel-: network manager written in python
[17:08] <Siegel-> when i click on my connection icon it says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch
[17:09] <gartral> celthunder: huh?
[17:09] <srini> ikonia, is there any news blogging channel available?
[17:09] <celthunder> Siegel-: is it enabled in bios or is there a hardware toggle
[17:09] <ikonia> srini: not that I'm aware of, try #defocus
[17:09] <Siegel-> celthunder: how can i find out? i have no idea.
[17:09] <celthunder> gartral: for recovery / single user mode
[17:10] <Tzunamii> :)
[17:10] <gartral> oh.. there's a recovery mode.. DUR
[17:10] <celthunder> Siegel-: look?
[17:10] <Siegel-> celthunder: have no idea how to.
[17:10] <wylde> viktor133: once you are in the editor press the DOWN ARROW until you get to the line that starts with linux /boot
[17:10]  * gartral derps
[17:10] <srini> ikonia, ok
[17:10] <celthunder> Siegel-: reboot boot to bios and go through the menus
[17:10] <Siegel-> celthunder: ok bios i choose when i sign in?
[17:10] <gvo> Siegel-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737629&highlight=broadcom+4318&page=3
[17:10] <wylde> viktor133: and press END keys to position your cursor at the end of the that line usually ending with “quiet splash” and type "nomodeset"
[17:10] <celthunder> Siegel-: then physically pick up your laptop and look for a switch
[17:11] <celthunder> Siegel-: it shourd be before the os boots.....
[17:11] <Siegel-> celthunder: oh woah. where could it be? on the bottom?
[17:11] <wylde> viktor133: then all you have to do is hit ctrl+X to boot
[17:11] <Siegel-> celthunder: i see  i see
[17:11] <viktor133> wylde it seems to be booting
[17:11] <celthunder> Siegel-: i dont know
[17:11] <wylde> viktor133: you added the nomodeset?
[17:12] <gvo> Siegel-: Mine is above the keyboard just to the left of center.
[17:12] <viktor133> wylde yep :)
[17:12] <wylde> viktor133: good stuff :)
[17:12] <FireStorms> Is there something like XAMPP on Ubuntu (except not Xampp as it's too complicated)
[17:12] <Siegel-> gvo: there is a wifi icon that lights up when it works and now its off. i see no switch though
[17:12] <wylde> Firestorm tasksel  and choose lamp
[17:12] <celthunder> FireStorms: yes
[17:12] <gvo> Mine is a light and a push button all in one.
[17:13] <viktor133> wylde thnks, are these changes permanent, or do i have to edit the grub file somewhere?
[17:13] <gvo> Try pushing the light
[17:13] <celthunder> gvo: huh
[17:13] <FireStorms> celthunder, really? What is this then?
[17:13] <Siegel-> GVo nothing
[17:13] <gvo> Siegel-: OK
[17:13] <Siegel-> GVo its a dell latitude D610
[17:13] <celthunder> viktor133: if you changed it when booting its temporary
[17:13] <gaussblurinc> how to find the path to lib?:\ i install it (libgmp) with software manager, where should it layed?
[17:13] <wylde> vik if you edited the /etc/default/grub file on your system it is permanent, if not then you will need to add the nomodeset once you're logged in
[17:14] <gvo> Siegel-: Did you look at that url
[17:14] <Siegel-> GVo im looking
[17:14] <gvo> OK
[17:14] <celthunder> gaussblurinc: /usr/lib is most likely
[17:14] <viktor133> celthunder, ok, so i open the etc/default/grub in vim or something and edit it, that would take care of it?
[17:15] <wylde> viktor133: once you're in you can gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:16] <Siegel-> GVo ok they also said i might have to blacklist something but i dont know what or how to
[17:16] <Zaitzev> How do I search for all files with a specific extension, and delete all the files as they are found, using terminal?
[17:17] <celthunder> Siegel-: look up your card
[17:17] <celthunder> it should tell you
[17:17] <gvo> Siegel-: google blacklist modules linux and you should find references
[17:17] <jadoe> I'd like to remap ctrl+c/v/x/t/w/q to alt+c/v/x/t/w/q without switching alt and ctrl globally. Possible?
[17:18] <godofwar> anyone know what backup software is supposed to be used instead of nepomuk?
[17:18] <celthunder> Zaitzev: find with results passed to rm
[17:18] <gvo> jadoe:  man xmodmap
[17:18] <santoshfamily> how i can delete old kernal ?
[17:18] <celthunder> santoshfamily: rm it
[17:18] <gaussblurinc> how to add lib in /usr/lib to c++ project? (libgmp.so.3.5.2)?
[17:18] <celthunder> fogmaker: nepomuk backs up what
[17:19] <Zaitzev> celthunder: that was rather vague, but ok
[17:19] <gvo> dpkg --purge <packagename>
[17:19] <celthunder> Zaitzev: i forgot the arguements thats the general idea though
[17:19] <DonD> does ubuntu have an irc client installed s?
[17:19] <gvo> santoshfamily: dpkg --purge <packagename>
[17:20] <FireStorms> IS it possible to install both Ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server on one machine....
 should i use terminal for it ?
[17:20] <celthunder> DonD: maybe there are plenty in the repos
[17:20] <cats333> firestorms: I think so
[17:20] <gvo> I think evolution has an irc client
[17:20] <viktor133> wylde, i think the change worked, anyway i'll be able to boot now, i owe you a beer :p
[17:20] <celthunder> santoshfamily: i would you should do it however you want
[17:20] <Zaitzev> celthunder: It's the arguments I'm unsure of, how do I pass what 'find' finds over to rm?
[17:20] <gvo> And it's often installed by default
[17:20] <celthunder> gvo: thats a mail client....
[17:20] <wylde> viktor133: glad it worked! :)
[17:20] <Ferris314> dualboots dont mind FireStorms
[17:21] <gvo> Well, when I click on the icon I see "set up chat"
[17:21] <gvo> So something connected with it has chat ability.
[17:21] <celthunder> FireStorms: yes
[17:21] <Zaitzev> celthunder: find /folder -iname '*.mta' > rm $1
[17:21] <Zaitzev> am I close?
[17:21] <gvo> So it's empathy
[17:21] <FireStorms> Ferris314, this is the thing, I only have one computer and I'd like to use it for web development
[17:21] <gvo> Not evolution.
[17:21] <santoshfamily> but i want remove old kernal !
[17:21] <wylde> you can connect to irc servers with Empathy which is installed by default
[17:22] <gvo> santoshfamily: dpkg ---purge
[17:22] <celthunder> FireStorms: the only difference is which packages are installed
[17:22] <cats333> How do you change the default microphone in Xubuntu?
[17:22] <celthunder> install what you want and use it how you want
[17:22] <celthunder> cats333: which audio system
[17:22] <cats333> pulse
[17:22] <celthunder> santoshfamily: so delete it
[17:22] <FireStorms> can I install Ubuntu server in like a virtual machine
[17:22] <celthunder> FireStorms: yes
[17:22] <Ferris314> but why
[17:22] <wylde> Zaitzev: find /folder -type f -name "*.txt" -delete
[17:22] <Ferris314> xD
[17:23] <FireStorms> celthunder, awesome
  you are telling about removal of packages and i donot the name of it !
[17:23] <gvo> What's the file name of the kernel you want to remove?
[17:24] <santoshfamily> previous which is taking space of hdd !
[17:25] <cats333> How do you change the default microphone in PulseAudio
[17:25] <gvo> Other than that bit of useless information what else do you know about the kernel?
[17:25] <gvo> santoshfamily: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[17:25] <gvo> That will give you a list.
[17:25] <elijah> I have a 5 year old laptop I just installed Ubuntu on, it has a PATA HDD and I can hear it being accessed constantly, is there a way I can see what is accessing it all the time?
[17:26] <gartral> what is the absolute, bare minimum amount of RAM a server install will run on.. i'm not talking sanely, i'm talking, without a swap, what is the bare minimum it can be done with while the server is still stable
[17:26] <santoshfamily> linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic           3.0.0-12.20
[17:26] <Jordan_U> elijah: iotop might be useful.
[17:26] <gvo> santoshfamily: is that the only one?
[17:26] <wylde> elijah: does the laptop have a reasonable amount of ram?
[17:26] <godofwar> gnome 3 or unity, what is the verdict?
[17:26] <elijah> wylde: 512MB
[17:27] <gvo> godofwar: both are POS
[17:27] <santoshfamily> no the other one is in use which is 3.0.0-16-generic
[17:27] <Jordan_U> !best | godofwar
[17:27] <Siegel-> gvo: i followed the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access      it said after typing in a few commands i can go and enable the b43 drivers in "hardware/additional drivers". it wont let me enable anything. let alone display anything to be enabled.
[17:27] <wylde> elijah: ok did you install full Ubuntu
[17:27] <gvo> OK so dpkg --purge linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[17:27] <godofwar> ubottu: sorry
[17:27] <UrB> godofwar: gnome 3 seems bit snappier on my ancient laptop
[17:28] <elijah> wylde: yes
[17:28] <santoshfamily> does it will harm the os !
[17:28] <wylde> elijah: just thinking that if you're filling up the system memory it may cause it to constantly access the swap partition
[17:28] <tumppu> Siegel-: I got my Broadcom working by loading b43 driver
[17:28] <pconwell> anyone seen lvm duplicate an /sda as a /hda?
[17:28] <prosenjit> hi
[17:28] <godofwar> Urb: i have been using unity with ubuntu 11.10 and there are simple problems like laggy window movement
[17:28] <naeem> hi
[17:28] <gvo> santoshfamily: It is the os, but not the one you are running.
[17:28] <godofwar> Urb: also nepomuk doesnt work
[17:28] <wylde> elijah: you caould always try lubuntu or xubuntu. Both of those I find work great on older heardware
[17:28] <UrB> nepomuk?
[17:29] <wylde> wow, typos much? heh
[17:29] <naeem> yes
[17:29] <santoshfamily> does it need user privilege
[17:29] <gvo> Yes
[17:29] <sevi> Hello, got a question: is it possible to open an application with a console using the .bashrc ??? i have a path now: export PATH=/home/sevi/Programme/blender-2.62-linux-glibc27-i686/blender/:$PATH  --- what is to add to this code ?
[17:29] <gvo> sudo dpkg ...
[17:29] <godofwar> Urb: have you tried installing ubuntu 11.10?
[17:29] <elijah> wylde: Thanks, system monitor says I am using 320 of 463MiB and 291 of 477Mib of swap so I think you are right. Not sure why it wouldn't use all of physical first though
[17:29] <prosenjit> i am not able to customize my ubuntu 11.10 default desktop
[17:30] <UrB> godofwar: I am runnign it atm
[17:30] <godofwar> Urb: nepomuk is the default backup software to backup your distro.
[17:30] <santoshfamily> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[17:30] <gvo> santoshfamily: honestly though it takes so little disk space why bother unless you're on an 40 Mb disk.
[17:30] <godofwar> Urb: then you have seen the nepomuk popup.  Its a very common bug in 11.10
[17:30] <godofwar> Urb: you can read about it in the ubuntu forums
[17:31] <UrB> you mean deja dup?
[17:31] <wylde> elijah: yeah I find with 512mb ram the full Ubuntu install doesn't run very well. But lubuntu and xubuntu run well on old hardware :)
[17:31] <gvo> santoshfamily: So do you have software manager running?
[17:31] <godofwar> Urb: what do you use for backing up your system?
[17:31] <UrB> http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/nepomuk/index.html :)
[17:31] <Ferris314> what kind of disc should i keep around f
[17:31] <godofwar> Urb: ah i will look that up
[17:31] <Siegel-> tumppu: done that. its still disabled "by hardware switch"
[17:31] <elijah> wylde: K, thanks, do you know if it is possible to install xubuntu right over ubuntu or should I do a full wipe?
[17:31] <UrB> dejadup is the one mine has as default backup
[17:31] <godofwar> hmm
[17:31] <santoshfamily> spm is working !
[17:31] <Ferris314> erf. broken line my bad. what would you use as an os on a cd?
[17:32] <wylde> elijah: you can tell the installer to use the entire disk and it will do it for you
[17:32] <godofwar> Urb: doesn't it just backup files and not a pure disto backup?
[17:32] <UrB> could be - I haven't ever done full system backup
[17:32] <in0cula> i have to set this line at boot (sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M auto) where i have to write it?
[17:32] <UrB> I just bite the bullet and re-install if things go wrong :)
[17:32] <elijah> wylde: Thanks, downloading now!
[17:32] <wylde> elijah: unless you want to keep the other installation, which I assume you won't. Just back up anything you need to keep beforehand
[17:33] <gvo> Siegel-: install wicd then update-rc.d network-manager remove
[17:33] <Siegel-> GVo sudo apt-get install wicd?
[17:33] <elijah> wylde: I just checked and this laptop supports up to 2 GB ram so I am going to buy some of that too.
[17:33] <gvo> yes
[17:33] <gvo> Siegel-: yes
[17:34] <wylde> elijah: I actually have an old 1.3 ghz PC with 256mb ram running xubuntu and it works great :)
[17:34] <Siegel-> GVo ok its installing, then what do i do next? i dont know the command
 thanks buddy !
[17:34] <gvo> Siegel-: see the  update-rc.d that I sent you.
[17:34] <elijah> wylde: I am downloading now, if it works good with Xubuntu and 256 then it will be even better with 2 GB!
[17:34] <wylde> elijah: for sure
[17:34] <gvo> Then do a /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[17:34] <Siegel-> GVo ok is that the command?
[17:35] <gvo> Siegel-: to be sure
[17:35] <Siegel-> ooh
[17:35] <gvo> Siegel-: install wicd then update-rc.d network-manager remove
[17:35] <elijah> wylde: Appears that Chromium is taking up most of the memory also
[17:35] <gvo> The command starts after the word "then"
[17:35] <gvo> I hope you're not on the system you are doing this to.
[17:36] <DonD> i rebooted the server and now i cant watch php sites, i have an xml plugin that dont work, do i need to start somthing ?
[17:36] <gvo> Siegel-: are you still there?
[17:36] <Siegel-> GVo well i have no other.
[17:36] <Siegel-> yes
[17:36] <Siegel-> GVo should i tell you what it said?
[17:36] <gvo> Sure
[17:36] <satio> hi, i read about a ubuntu for android phones, is it possible to install it on other phones, ie symbian?
[17:36] <Siegel-> GVo update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/network-manager exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[17:37] <gvo> That's OK.
[17:37] <elijah> I am running Ubuntu 11.10, when I close Chromium 17 I still have a bunch of chromium-browse process which are taking up valuable memory, is this normal?
[17:37] <wylde> elijah: yeah sometimes browsers get greedy heh, depending on how many tabs are open and any plugins running
[17:37] <gvo> Now start wicd,  Just type sudo wicd
[17:38] <elijah> wylde: Do you know how I can run a disk speed test on Ubuntu?
[17:38] <gvo> Siegel-: If you lose the internet just reboot.
[17:38] <Siegel-> GVo it said rename failed
[17:38] <Siegel-> GVo no prob
[17:38] <Siegel-> GVo now its a wired connection.
[17:38] <Siegel-> but im hoping to change that
[17:38] <satio> @elijah: chromium kills the memory on my pcs (ubuntu pcs and windows), i'd guess its normal for chromium to take up a lot of memory.
[17:38] <gvo> sudo wicd gave you a rename failed?
[17:39] <Siegel-> yes
[17:39] <wylde> elijah: not off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's info on it either in the Ubuntu forums or the wiki
[17:39] <Siegel-> then i tried just "wicd" and it said: Root privileges are required for the daemon to run properly.  Exiting.
[17:39] <elijah> satio: Does Chromium release it though when you close it? I close it and it still sucking memory
[17:39] <gvo> OK reboot.  If you don't have a network when you come back up, type sudo wicd again.
[17:39] <Siegel-> alright so see you in a bit
[17:39] <gvo> Worst case
[17:39] <gvo> wait
[17:39] <noob_at_work> xD
[17:39] <Siegel-> alright im here
[17:39] <in0cula> where i have to put this to make it load at boot???
[17:40] <in0cula> pls help
[17:40] <gvo> worst case you'll need to start network-manager again, if wicd isn't working.
[17:40] <Siegel-> GVo ok
[17:40] <the-ubuntu-user> @elijah: yes
[17:40] <Siegel-> so should i reboot GVo ?
[17:40] <gvo> So if wicd doesnt work, then
[17:40] <gvo> not yet.
[17:40] <nagarjuna> hi guys
[17:40] <Siegel-> ok
[17:41] <elijah> I have half my physical memory available and half my swap used, should Ubuntu release swap and start using all physical memory first?
[17:41] <the-ubuntu-user> chromium usually releases the memory, but sometimes the process is running in the background.
[17:41] <gvo> so if wicd doesn't work after reboot, the do "sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager start"
[17:41] <gvo> the==then
[17:41] <Siegel-> let me write that down
[17:41] <elijah> the-ubuntu-user: I think that is what is happening, do you know how to turn off Chromium from running in the background?
[17:41] <nagarjuna> hi any one how can we set a pop-ups(like xchat, thunderbird) for skype
[17:41] <roasted> Question - can anybody tell me what the relevance is of pyNeighborhood with system-config-samba being functional? I noticed last night system-config-samba would not launch, a quick Google search revealed other users with a similar issue who reported installing pyNeighborhood solved their problem. I'm curious as to "why". What does pyNeighborhood do?
[17:41] <the-ubuntu-user> i sometimes have to close chromium through system monitor.
[17:42] <Siegel-> GVo ok i wrote that down
[17:42] <gvo> elijah: linux memory management looks strange but it's quite efficent, don't worry.
[17:42] <gvo> Siegel-: give it a go.
[17:42] <the-ubuntu-user> @elijah: I have no idea how to fix the problem, but I dont get the problem as much in ubuntu 10.04, as i did in the later builds.
[17:43] <Siegel-> GVo ok see you in a bit, thanks
[17:44] <pconwell> I have /sda being duplicated as /hda... any ideas?
[17:45] <minixvbox> pconwell: what is the output of: uname -a
[17:45] <pconwell> I'm actually helping a friend, I'm not sure - I know it's Ubuntu 11.10
[17:46] <pconwell> What's happening is there are duplicate /sda and /hda showing up with the same UUID
[17:46] <adam_> hello
[17:46] <gvo> pconwell: What's the /etc/fstab look like
[17:46] <Siegel-> GVo back im gonna try sudo wicd
[17:47] <gvo> Hm
[17:47] <Siegel-> GVo "rename failed"
[17:47] <adam_> jest ktoś z Polski?
[17:47] <pconwell> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/qhy9c/ubuntu_server_1110_x86_64_running_as_ms_2008_r2/c3xwfg1
[17:47] <gvo> do a ps -e | grep wicd
[17:47] <pconwell> fstab is in there
[17:47] <minixvbox> !pl | adam_
[17:47] <gvo> pconwell: I'm sure, look in it and see if there is anything funny.
[17:48] <pconwell> gvo: nothing out of the ordinary that I saw
[17:48] <gvo> Siegel-: ps -e | grep wicd
[17:48] <gvo> pconwell: OK
[17:48] <Siegel-> GVo it doesnt od anything
[17:48] <gvo> Hm wierd.
[17:48] <Siegel-> as if its not there
[17:48] <antismap> hello, how can i uninstall my current kernel ? It freezes at boot so i always have to choose the last one in the "previous kernels" in grub in order to boot
[17:49] <gvo> Siegel-: so try  sudo /etc/init.d/wicd start
[17:49] <Siegel-> GVo it says its starting it
[17:49] <minixvbox> antismap: do you know which kernel it is that's freezing?
[17:50] <Siegel-> gvo * Starting Network connection manager wicd                              [ OK ]
[17:50] <gvo> and then sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[17:50] <pconwell> antismap: Here is some info: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/need-to-remove-old-versions-of-ubuntu-kernel-466660/
[17:50] <antismap> yes the 3.0.0-16 generic
[17:50] <minixvbox> !info linux-generic
[17:50] <antismap> yes pconwell but in this case it's not a "old version" is the new one
[17:51] <Siegel-> gvo and now?
[17:51] <antismap> so i'm worried that it breaks all if i do that :/
[17:51] <gvo> What did the stop say?
[17:51] <lilVaratep> how do i burn an iso? write to disc?
[17:51] <pconwell> antismap: you may need to edit grub to boot from the kernel that is working then
[17:51] <Siegel-> something long
[17:51] <codezombie> hey, trying to re-install ubuntu 10.04 server and I'm on the partition disks section... I don't see an option to delete lvm groups. I seem to remember this being there, am I missing something?
[17:51] <Siegel-> should i use pastebin GVo?
[17:51] <minixvbox> antismap: i was half hoping you were out of date, so you could update to the latest
[17:51] <gvo> Siegel-: something good or somthing bad?
[17:52] <Siegel-> doesnt look bad
[17:52] <Siegel-> its like a tip
[17:52] <roasted> Question - can anybody tell me what the relevance is of pyNeighborhood with system-config-samba being functional? I noticed last night system-config-samba would not launch, a quick Google search revealed other users with a similar issue who reported installing pyNeighborhood solved their problem. I'm curious as to "why". What does pyNeighborhood do?
[17:52] <Siegel-> rather than..... GVo
[17:52] <gvo> OK
[17:52] <antismap> it happened them i changed my graphic card and installed the driver from the website
[17:52] <pconwell> antismap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[17:52] <antismap> when*
[17:52] <gvo> ifconfig -a
[17:52] <codezombie> nvm, I'm an idiot
[17:52] <antismap> ok i'll look at that
[17:52] <gvo> Is the card working yet.
[17:52] <Siegel-> gvo http://paste.ubuntu.com/870225/
[17:52] <Siegel-> no its not
[17:52] <minixvbox> antismap: ah, what was wrong with the driver from the repo?
[17:53] <pconwell> antismap: do you know if you have grub2? I'm assuming you do...
[17:53] <lilVaratep> how do i burn an iso? is it just "write to disc" ?
[17:53] <pconwell> lilVaratep: yes
[17:53] <Siegel-> GVo is the iconfig -a for me?
[17:53] <antismap> minixvbox: it didn't show up in "hardware drivers" it was wierd
[17:53] <gvo> yes
[17:53] <gvo> Siegel-: yes
[17:53] <minixvbox> antismap: whats the card?
[17:53] <gvo> Siegel-: the message is informative
[17:54] <Siegel-> GVo should i pastebin the ifconfig?
[17:54] <antismap> minixvbox: GeForce GT 220
[17:54] <gvo> sure
[17:55] <Siegel-> gvo http://paste.ubuntu.com/870231/
[17:55] <wylde> antismap: that's the exact card I have
[17:55] <gvo> Siegel-: Do you see a network icon?
[17:56] <Siegel-> GVo no it disappeared when we "Stopped" the network manager thing, but i have internet.
[17:56] <wylde> I'm on 10.04 using the driver from nvidia
[17:56] <Siegel-> you mean the two arrows thing? one pointing upwards the other down? GVo ?
[17:56] <antismap> but i think that if i installed ubunty with this card directly, i would have had problems. Here i changed my card so ubuntu didn't propose me any nvidia driver
[17:56] <antismap> i don't know why
[17:56] <gvo> Siegel-: Might be
[17:56] <gvo> click on it
[17:56] <Siegel-> its done
[17:56] <Siegel-> gone
[17:57] <Siegel-> since we stopped the network manager. wicd never opened up. i didnt see anything. it just said its starting in terminal
[17:57] <antismap> right now if i go into "additional drivers" it doesn't propose me any repository driver so ..
[17:57] <gvo> so try the sudo /etc/init.d wicd start
[17:57] <gvo> again.
[17:57] <antismap> i'm just going to remove the last kernel and won't do kernel upgrades and that's will be it
[17:58] <Siegel-> GVo it did the same
[17:58] <Siegel-> and still no network icon
[17:58] <Siegel-> there is an OK in brackets on the side. does that mean anything?
[17:58] <gvo> OK go to system/Preferences/Network
[17:59] <gvo> Siegel-: yes that says it worked.
[17:59] <celthunder> Siegel-: wicd is the daemon you still have to start the client bit
[17:59] <Siegel-> GVo i searched for wicd and it opened up a window finally
[17:59] <superdmp> Hi - I installed cmake, on the current  version of Ubuntu Server , to install MySQL; however, I get this when I run cmake .: http://dpaste.com/712013/
[18:00] <Siegel-> GVo it says "no wireless networks found"
[18:00] <minixvbox> superdmp: so you're compiling mysql?
[18:00] <superdmp> yes
[18:00] <gvo> OK so we're back to a driver issue.
[18:00] <minixvbox> superdmp: why not use what is in the repo?
[18:00] <gvo> Review that web page again and see if you can make the changes, I've got to find lunch.
[18:01] <Siegel-> so can i just keep wicd now? just leave it the way it is GVo? but still i dont get it. i downloaded all the firmware. this is driving me crazy. one time it works automatically you change the OS and it stops
[18:01] <gvo> No problem
[18:01] <Siegel-> GVo nope. i guess ill just wait for someone else. thanks though
[18:01] <svfusion> \server irc.dmehosting.com
[18:01] <gvo> Once you get the drivers sorted out wicd will work better for you.
[18:01] <superdmp> minixvbox: I am following a set of instructions for setting up a webserver that has been drawn up for our institution; it's how our other servers have been set up
[18:01] <gvo> Siegel-: It comes up automatically.
[18:02] <minixvbox> !lamp | superdmp
[18:02] <gvo> so you don't have to do the starts, I was just being sure.
[18:02] <nagarjuna> hi any one how can we set a pop-ups(like xchat, thunderbird) for skype
[18:02] <wylde> superdmp:  ahh ok, I was going to say using tasksel and choosing the lamp entry is SO much easier :)
[18:02] <minixvbox> nagarjuna: does skype use libnotify?
[18:03] <nagarjuna> minixvbox: sorry, how to check that
[18:03] <minixvbox> nagarjuna: no idea, i don't use skype
[18:03] <nagarjuna> oh k
[18:03] <Dear> I have an issue. Just recently when I reboot or shut down and start up again I can't use my keyboard or mouse for about 2 minutes. This creates a problem for me since I can't choose what OS to boot into. This is something that just happen very recently and both the keyboard and mouse was working find for years. Any ideas? Thanks
[18:05] <TeodorM> Hi!please help me! I am trying to mount windows partitions, but I get some problems. I've tried to do like in this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions  but in both cases (automatic and manual conf.) I get some errors (ntfs-config:2217): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[18:05] <Benkinooby> Dear, so you cant use them even if you are in grub?
[18:06] <Benkinooby> Dear, can you use your keyboard BEFORE you get to grub... e.g. to get to BIOS?
[18:06] <jhutchins_wk> Dear: USB?
[18:07] <Dear> I can't get my keyboard to work at all and yes a wireless logitech K350 USB
[18:07] <antismap> if i remove those packages : linux-generic linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic linux-image-generic
[18:07] <CannedCorn> hey guys, is there a way to tell apt-get install to not start init.d stuff
[18:07] <antismap> will i still have my older kernels ?
[18:07] <Dear> not even F2 works
[18:07] <Benkinooby> Dear, do you have an usb or PS2 keyboard at hand for testing?
[18:08] <Dear> can't get into BIOS even Benkinooby
[18:08] <zgr> hey guys I've just discovered seahorse, as I understood it stored my passwords on websites from chromium, I want to move to firefox now, is there way to get them there?
[18:08] <Dear> yes i do and still same issue Benkinooby
[18:08] <minixvbox> antismap: linux-generic and linux-image-generic are metapkgs i think, they always link to the latest kernel in the repo
[18:08] <Benkinooby> Dear, so the wireless keyboard adapter is unplugged, the other keyboard is mounted and still the problem appears?
[18:09] <minixvbox> antismap: in other words you don't want to remove them
[18:09] <antismap> but i don't have the choice
[18:09] <Dear> IDK what I did because both were working find for years now. Benkinooby
[18:09] <Dear> yes Benkinooby
[18:09] <antismap> if i do that : sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic
[18:09] <Noor_egy> hello
[18:09] <antismap> it wants to delete the other ones too
[18:09] <Dear> same thing happens can't even get into BIOS Benkinooby
[18:09] <minixvbox> antismap: the best thing you can do is remove the driver you installed and see if you get back to a state that you can boot into
[18:10] <nagarjuna> hey guys, is there any package in linux that i can get 3d icons like in Mac
[18:10] <Siegel-> hi. ive been trying to get my b43 to work. i need my wireless network. i found these commands to change from b43 to wl, or vice versa. termincal says "permission denied" to these commands. why is that? im desparate to get my wireless working
[18:10] <antismap> because editing grub 2 sounds like complicated too..
[18:10] <Siegel-> commands" modprobe 0r b43"
[18:10] <Siegel-> -r*
[18:10] <tumppu> siegel use sudo
[18:10] <minixvbox> antismap: grub isn't that complicated
[18:12] <Benkinooby> So if the problem arises with other keyboards too and the problems comes even before you get to boot anything it makes the impression that this is hardware related
[18:12] <Benkinooby> So if the problem arises with other keyboards too and the problems comes even before you get to boot anything it makes the impression that this is hardware related Dear
[18:12] <nagarjuna> hi, is there any package in linux that i can get 3d icons like in Mac
[18:12] <roasted> Question - can anybody tell me what the relevance is of pyNeighborhood with system-config-samba being functional? I noticed last night system-config-samba would not launch, a quick Google search revealed other users with a similar issue who reported installing pyNeighborhood solved their problem. I'm curious as to "why". What does pyNeighborhood do?
[18:12] <Siegel-> tumppu:  didnt work. i think my sta/broadcom -wl driver is conflicting with my b43 driver. i need to remove it.
[18:13] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, there is a package that makes ubuntu look like mac.. or do you just want the icons?
[18:13] <Dear> Benkinooby, Can you think of any reason that this just recently occured? I mean it was working fine for years.
[18:13] <tumppu> siegel remove the bmc-kernel tms
[18:13] <Benkinooby> Dear, first shot would be: it's old
[18:13] <Benkinooby> Dear, do you also have a ps/2 keyboard for testing?
[18:13] <Dear> Benkinooby, the keyboard(s) are?
[18:14] <Siegel-> tumppu: how do i go about doing that
[18:14] <Benkinooby> Dear, hm
[18:15] <tumppu> Siegel-: apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[18:15] <Evilus> Does anyone have experience with utorrent and wine on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:15] <Benkinooby> Dear, hm, i don't know any further... try unplug as much as possible and only leave the keyboard on
[18:16] <Benkinooby> Dear, maybe some connector or somethings blocks a fast hardware recognition
[18:16] <Dear> Benkinooby, no ps/2 bk for testing :( i don't even  think this PC has a ps/2 port. lol  been awhile since i looked behind my PC though. OK I will try that. Thanks
[18:16] <Siegel-> tumppu: it said it wa snot installed so not removed. i think its the STA driver conflicting.
[18:16] <Evilus> basically I have this bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/105268/utorrent-3-1-2-via-wine-black-background-of-main-panel that the main window is black I tried few themes but none of them solved this issue. I could not have found any theme for win 7 which would install properly. Would appreciate if someone could help :D
[18:16] <developer> \quit
[18:17] <Siegel-> tumppu: oh why wont it just work/ it worked fine before and now it just stopped working even since i changed the OS
[18:17] <Benkinooby> Evilus, is there any special reason for using utorrent?
[18:17] <Evilus> rss feed
[18:17] <tumppu> Siegel-: I had similar problems with BCM4318 after 11.10 install
[18:17] <Evilus> I tried few other torrent clients but none of them had good rss feed
[18:18] <Evilus> I have setup rss downloader with  Filters etc.
[18:18] <Dear> That what I was thinking also but I am a noob at linux still and didn't know how to troubleshoot kb/mouse issues. Benkinooby. but i will try unpluging all but kb. be back if still not workie. :)
[18:18] <tumppu> at last I find out that "modprobe b43" got it working
[18:18] <Benkinooby> ah, ok
[18:19] <Benkinooby> Evilus, ah, ok ... i don't know much about that... maybe an older version would work?
[18:19] <Benkinooby> Dear, ok
[18:19] <Evilus> older version of utorrent ? I could try I guess
[18:19] <Dear> thanks Benkinooby.
[18:19] <Benkinooby> Dear, i don't think that problem is software related
[18:20] <Dear> Benkinooby,  I didn't either
[18:20] <Benkinooby> Dear, because the problem come BEFORE any operation system can work
[18:20] <Dear> Benkinooby, exactly
[18:20] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: i need only for the icons
[18:20] <Benkinooby> Dear, soo.. hope i don't see you here anymore then ;)
[18:20] <Dear> LOL
[18:21] <Noor_egy> hello i haveing propleme with grub as i tried to install ubuntu grap after enstaling windows and now its ended to have everytime i begin my pc with black window and grup> word and no place to eneter to ubuntu or windows :S any heeeeeeelp
[18:21] <Benkinooby> Dear, maybe with an other problem :D
[18:21] <Dear> true
[18:21] <gedO> Hello guys. I have this question. How to install Ubuntu to USB like I install them to HDD?
[18:21] <roasted> Question - can anybody tell me what the relevance is of pyNeighborhood with system-config-samba being functional? I noticed last night system-config-samba would not launch, a quick Google search revealed other users with a similar issue who reported installing pyNeighborhood solved their problem. I'm curious as to "why". What does pyNeighborhood do?
[18:21] <Dear> still pretty new to the whole linux world
[18:21] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, what user interface do you use? gnome2, unity, gnome3 kde4?
[18:21] <nagarjuna> unity
[18:21] <Evilus> hah look at that Benkinooby I dled 2.2.1 and it works :D
[18:22] <Benkinooby> Dear, happended to everybody here once :)
[18:22] <Benkinooby> Evilus, so, at least a workaround... more or less :)
[18:22] <wylde> roasted: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cts=1330971727991&ved=0CDcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fpyneighborhood%2F&ei=SARVT_n5EKT50gH51MCwBQ&usg=AFQjCNF5hFJP5uauStLryBarMDECz_5Wug&sig2=9bJThJsmjL6L9_3Mzfj__w
[18:22] <Evilus> ye Benkinooby I guess I'll try it like this for some time, thanks for the tip
[18:22] <Noor_egy> hello i haveing propleme with grub as i tried to install ubuntu grap after enstaling windows and now its ended to have everytime i begin my pc with black window and grup> word and no place to eneter to ubuntu or windows :S any heeeeeeelp
[18:22] <freeman_> how i can manage the side panel in ubuntu 10.11?
[18:23] <Benkinooby> Evilus, maybe the next version will work again
[18:23] <minixvbox> !grub2 | Noor_egy
[18:23] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: i am using unity interface
[18:23] <roasted> wylde: it doesn't make sense as to why my laptop does not have pyneighborhood installed and system-config-samba works great, yet my htpc needed it installed to work.
[18:23] <Evilus> Benkinooby:  ye possible I was using 3.0.2 when I was testing because latest 3.1.2 has some nasty issues so not gonna try that :D. Anyway thanks again
[18:24] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, hm... i don't know too much about unity... b
[18:24] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, in gnome you could go to http://gnome-look.org/ and get stuff from there... maybe unity has something similar...
[18:25] <freeman_>  how i can manage the side panel in ubuntu 10.11?
[18:25] <wylde> roasted: perhaps taking a bit more time researching it might give you more answers, and looking at the sourceforge site you could possibly look at what packages it depends on and figure why.
[18:25] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, maybe check the repos for icon-packages
[18:25] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: ok
[18:25] <Benkinooby> Evilus, you're welcone
[18:25] <Benkinooby> welcome
[18:25] <Siegel-> tumppu: you wouldnt believ eit. i just fixed it. i googled my problem and found this description of a guy who had the same problem with the same model of network card. he said he clicked "fn+f2" and it worked immediately. now, of course i did that, and all of a sudden my bluetooth icon appeared. no wireless though. i rebooted and my wifi icon lit up and now its working perfectly. i had to...
[18:25] <Siegel-> ...manually switch it on.
[18:25] <roasted> wylde: perhaps, but I still find it confusing. 4 11.10 systems, all good with the samba gui. On one, it needs pyneighborhood....
[18:25] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, maybe.... the gnome icon themes can be used for unity too...
[18:26] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, but that's a very wild guess from my side
[18:26] <tumppu> Siegel-: so the problem was just with your laptops harware switch
[18:26] <bobweaver> newbie:  could you open your terminal and enter: rfkill list all : then  then use pastebin to show us ?
[18:27] <MFen> has anyone else had the problem in libreoffice that they can start recording, but they can't click the "stop recording" button? This is a new problem for Unity
[18:27] <CannedCorn> sorry for asking again but is there a way to tell apt-get install to not start init.d stuff
[18:27] <Siegel-> tumppu: exactly. and actually the computer was telling me that. "wireless is disabled due to hardware switch turned off" or something like that
[18:27] <bagels> I have a touchscreen and can't even find it in lsusb, how can i install it?
[18:27] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: oh k, i will search for that, you said there is a package for mac right. Can you tell me the name of the package
[18:28] <Siegel-> tumppu: well glad its solved. though i have another problem haha.
[18:28] <tumppu> fine so
[18:28] <bobweaver> bagels: try : lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:28] <bobweaver> bagels: try : lspci -nn | grep VGA  or  lspci -nn -k | grep VGA
[18:28] <Siegel-> so here's my new problem, guys: for days ive been trying to figure out how to install the codec-c plugin. i cant watch videos on veehd.com. i have the restricted-extras package installed as well as adobe flashplayer. what could be mimssing?
[18:28] <bagels> bobweaver: i'll try it
[18:29] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, what ubuntu version do you use?
[18:29] <bobweaver> Siegel-: you have medibuntu installed ?
[18:29] <nagarjuna> 11:10 version
[18:29] <Siegel-> bobweaver: nope. do i do" sudo apt-get install medibuntu"?
[18:29] <bobweaver> nope
[18:30] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, i think the package is not ready for 11.10... but here is the project website http://sourceforge.net/projects/macbuntu/
[18:30] <bobweaver> Siegel-:  http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[18:30] <Siegel-> bobweaver: ok let me have a look.
[18:30] <bagels> bobweaver: all it gave me was my graphics card, an intel family integrated controller...
[18:30] <nagarjuna> ok, thanks benkinooby
[18:30] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, but you have to be very careful... that stuff does a lot to your user interface... but as i said, ther is no version for ubuntu 11.10 yet
[18:31] <StepNjump> Hi boys, I am looking for a way to create a link to a website as a file on my desktop. Is there a way to do that? I used to drag and drop the sphere off the URL on Opera or Chromium. It used to work but not anymore. Any suggestions please?
[18:31] <theadmin> StepNjump: Create a launcher to the command "xdg-open your_url"
[18:31] <Siegel-> bobweaver: its installing. what does this actually do?
[18:32] <bobweaver> dang it
[18:32] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: Actually , i'm only looking for the icons as stylish , 3d like mac
[18:32] <bagels> bobweaver: what else can i try
[18:33] <inaayat> Hey you guys :D
[18:33] <inaayat> did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:33] <bobweaver> StepNjump:  make a file under /usr/share/applications.<name oflink.desktop >.desktop  then copy one from say firefox.desktop  and change "Exec=firefox" too Exec=firefox <name of link >
[18:33] <Siegel-> bobweaver: would a reboot be necessary to yield results? or can i check it out immediately/
[18:33] <bobweaver> bagels:  not sure
[18:34] <bobweaver> Siegel-:  you should be able to check right away
[18:34] <inaayat>  did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:34] <Siegel-> bobweaver: ok cool tnx
[18:34] <root_> hola
[18:34] <StepNjump> Is that done at the command line prompt theadmin ?
[18:34] <bobweaver> Siegel-:  medibuntu is getting a bit old and there is mixed reviews on it but I still use it
[18:34] <theadmin> StepNjump: I guess, but then again that's just a command, you can create a launcher for it
[18:35] <inaayat>  did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:35] <inaayat>  did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:35] <inaayat>  did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:35] <FloodBot1> inaayat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <StepNjump> Ok, sounds complex... I found what I used to do... Seems like only firefox does it... Try it. Works good with FF. Drag and drop. Thanks for your help theadmin
[18:35] <inaayat> :O
[18:35] <StepNjump> Got to run
[18:35] <StepNjump> Have a good day theadmin
[18:35] <inaayat> Why ?? sorry
[18:35] <theadmin> StepNjump: k
[18:35] <inaayat> im not gonna do it anymore. :)
[18:36] <inaayat>  did anybody know how to uninstall programms ?
[18:36] <bobweaver> inaayat: depends on how you installd it
[18:36] <theadmin> inaayat: sudo apt-get remove progname
[18:36] <bobweaver> installed *
[18:36] <inaayat> theadmin : Thanks \:D
[18:36] <minixvbox> !software | inaayat
[18:37] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, maybe you'll be more luck in a unity channel
[18:37] <inaayat> theadmin : Doest work !! :(
[18:37] <minixvbox> inaayat: like theadmin said, it depends how you installed it
[18:37] <bobweaver> inaayat:  how did you install this program and what is its name ?
[18:38] <Siegel-> bobweaver: no problem. its installed but veehd still doesnt
[18:38] <nagarjuna> Benkinooby: should i need to install any package for that
[18:38] <Trevor69420> anyone here use moblock before
[18:38] <Trevor69420> ?
[18:38] <inaayat> bobweaver : Cairo-Dock From internet ...
[18:38] <miketheman> trying to figure out how to prevent a service from starting once installed - aka mysql-server
[18:38] <inaayat> bobweaver : With terminal... the codes...
[18:38] <bobweaver> inaayat:  it was a .deb package ?
[18:38] <theadmin> miketheman: Rename the file: sudo mv /etc/init/something.conf /etc/init/something.conf.DISABLED
[18:38] <bobweaver> that you downloaded ?
[18:38] <Benkinooby> nagarjuna, i mean that you should try to find an irc channel that is dedicated to unity
[18:39] <miketheman> theadmin: before the package is installed?
[18:39] <inaayat> bobweaver : I think so... ?
[18:39] <theadmin> miketheman: Not sure what's the filename for mysql is. And no, after.
[18:39] <bobweaver> Siegel-:  I will look into but right now I am not on a ubuntu computer
[18:39] <Siegel-> bobweaver: ok thanks a lot.
[18:40] <miketheman> theadmin: once the package is installed, the service starts.
[18:41] <theadmin> miketheman: Well yeah, that's what I say, move the file
[18:41] <theadmin> miketheman: Well, first stop the service manually I guess: sudo service something stop # Again, not sure what the name is
[18:41] <miketheman> theadmin: that won't stop the process, only prevent it from starting again
[18:42] <inaayat> FloodBots... -.-´´
[18:42] <miketheman> so, back to my original question, is there a way to prevent it from starting at all?
[18:42] <inaayat> HATE HATE HATE
[18:42] <wad> How do I ask the bot something?
[18:42] <jrib> ubottu: tell wad about yourself
[18:42] <wad> thanks
[18:43] <inaayat> sudo apt-get remove progname
[18:43] <YohanMeister> I just did some partitioning and am moving on to raid with mdadm. I need to find out a command that will show me *for sure for sure* exactly what my disk labels are (sda1, sdb1, etc, etc). I'm running system rescure cd right now.
[18:43] <inaayat> sudo apt-get remove progname
[18:43] <inaayat> sudo apt-get remove progname
[18:43] <FloodBot1> inaayat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <inaayat> ooko
[18:43] <inaayat> kk
[18:43] <inaayat> o
[18:43] <inaayat> k
[18:43] <inaayat> o
[18:43] <FloodBot1> inaayat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <inaayat> k
[18:44] <tomreyn> i just had an unskilled ubuntu user install software from a tarball globally using ./configure; make; sudo make install instad of using a deb. do you know of an article which explains why this is bad?
[18:44] <tomreyn> i've been searching the web for a bit now but can't find any
[18:44] <jrib> tomreyn: because now you have to maintain it
[18:44] <tomreyn> jrib: please re-read what i wrote, thanks.
[18:45] <jrib> tomreyn: you mean you want an article that tells you that?
[18:45] <jrib> !compile | tomreyn
[18:45] <jrib> miketheman: I think you can read /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz
[18:45] <YohanMeister> wow... busy busy on the ubuntu channel today   :)
[18:46] <miketheman> jrib: tried that, apaprently upstart does not honor policy-rc.d
[18:46] <savid> Anyone know why high-intensity background colors do not work in the terminal?
[18:46] <zykotick9> tomreyn: why does your "unskilled ubuntu user" have sudo rights?
[18:46] <Jazo> i m an irc operator (root) but i cant use /gline   why?
[18:46] <pangolin> Jazo: see #freenode
[18:46] <minixvbox> Jazo: a question better asked in #freenode
[18:47] <Jazo> thnx
[18:47] <minixvbox> Jazo: i hope you don't mean you are using irc as root :)
[18:47] <tomreyn> zykotick9: dou you not have root on your PC?
[18:47] <minixvbox> just missed him
[18:48] <minixvbox> !noroot | tomreyn
[18:48] <tomreyn> jrib: thanks, that's an article indeed. it doesn't exactly point out why "sudo make install" can be bad, though (other than saying "not recommended", so it's not exactly what i was looking for.
[18:49] <joodle> Hello guys, I am creating a presentation about operating systems and so on and I cant find information about "What is the most used operating system out there?"
[18:49] <joodle> I believe that its Linux because of all this embedded stuff and cellphones...
[18:49] <tomreyn> minixvbox: when i said "have root" i was referring any way to run commands as uid 0
[18:49] <nishttal2> how come there are no email clients on Ubuntu that can work with Exchange
[18:49] <bobweaver> joodle,  dont forget about servers also there are alot of them
[18:49] <minixvbox> !sudo | tomreyn
[18:50] <joodle> yes, modern data centres from facebook, gooogle ,.. . all have dozens of linux computers but i cant find any sources to refer...
[18:50] <tomreyn> yeah i kind of know what sudo is, thanks
[18:50] <miketheman> !upstart
[18:51] <minixvbox> tomreyn: perhaps your inexperienced linux user could avail himself of a lesson in the virtues of package managers, i'm sure you have the knowledge to teach him
[18:51] <bobweaver> joodle,  there is a program called popularity contest that    is installed on almost all linux machines, if you could get your hands on that data
[18:51] <rioderelfte> nishttal2, evolution works with exchange, iirc
[18:51] <donsd> Test. Sorry, I cannot talk on Freenode.
[18:52] <donsd> Ooops, I guess I can.  Could not talk on #vim.
[18:52] <joodle> bobweaver: Whats the name of this program? I am sitting here on a debian machine.
[18:52] <jack> donsd: you apparently just did
[18:52] <tomreyn> minixvbox: knowledge, yes, time, no, so that's why i'm looking for an article explaining just this. thanks for your intent to help, though, I appreciate it.
[18:52] <jack> check the channel-flags there...
[18:53] <minixvbox> donsd: some channels need registered nicks to talk on
[18:53] <bobweaver> joodle,  it is called popularity contest debian asks if you like to install at install
[18:53] <YohanMeister> I just did some partitioning and am moving on to raid with mdadm. I need to find out a command that will show me *for sure for sure* exactly what my disk labels are (sda1, sdb1, etc, etc). I'm running system rescure cd right now.
[18:53] <xangua> !ot | bobweaver joodle
[18:53] <minixvbox> !software | tomreyn
[18:53] <nishttal2> rioderelfte, The Exchange server is not compatible with Exchange Connector.The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only.
[18:53] <bobweaver> xangua,  you are right sorry
[18:54] <in0cula> I have to do this at boot time : iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M auto....... where i have to insert this line, pls help me
 Thanks. I'm pretty sure I am registered on Freenode. I'm installing xchat in Ubuntu and trying to get it to work.
[18:55] <jrib> minixvbox: that's just to have it not start on install.
[18:55] <jrib> erm
[18:55] <jrib> miketheman: that's just to have it not start on install.
[18:55] <minixvbox> donsd: i use xchat just fine, where are you stuck?
[18:55] <rioderelfte> nishttal2, http://jjesse.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/configure-evolution-to-to-access-ms-exchange-2007/
[18:56] <jrib> miketheman: I thought that's  what you wanted to know; if not, what do you want to do exactly?
[18:56] <miketheman> jrib: I've placed a policy-rc.d file, and despite the placement, mysqld starts up on install
 Not really stuck. Couldn't talk in #vim. Will ask you some general xchat questions, though.
[18:56] <jrib> miketheman: so your question is: "how to prevent mysqld from starting up at install?"
[18:57] <miketheman> jrib: as asked initially, yes
[18:57] <wad> Sanity check request: Do you guys see any downsides to this command for making a backup of my laptop? It's got a few partitions, dual boots, etc. But I think this covers the HDD loss situation: sudo dd if=/dev/sda | gzip > /mnt/external_usb_drive/backup_entire_drive.gz
[18:57] <donsd> If I want to respond to you, mini..., and put your nick in the text, is there an easy way?
[18:57] <nishttal2> rioderelfte, MAPI plugin wouldnt get contacts/calendar..
[18:58] <minixvbox> !tab | donsd
[18:58] <rioderelfte> nishttal2, ah - good to know - I don't use exchange myself
[18:58] <ben_p> hi, i just got a new computer, and i want to basically transfer my old system to my new one (including files,packages,settings,databases).  they both are running ubuntu 10.04.  what's the easiest way to do this?
[18:58] <donsd> minixvbox, Ah, yes works fine, thanks.
[18:59] <minixvbox> donsd: no worries :)
[18:59] <jrib> miketheman: Generally, you should do the following: 1) Read the init script (sometimes there is a file it checks for options) 2) check whether software uses real upstart script or not.  If still using sys-v-init style script, use sysv-rc-conf.  If yes, see the upstart cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ about overrides.
[18:59] <jrib> s/yes/upstart
[18:59] <bobweaver> jrib,  do you have a extrenel hardrive reader that goes to usb ??
[18:59] <jrib> bobweaver: why?
[19:00] <donsd> minixvbox, Is there a way to left justify the nicks that are chatting?
[19:00] <bobweaver> jrib, if you have something like this http://www.masscool.com/products.php?pid=178     then you can take out your old hardrive and then put it into the machine and just plug it in
[19:01] <jrib> bobweaver: are you speaking to the right person?
[19:01] <minixvbox> donsd: under settings preferences interface then user list
[19:02] <bobweaver> jrib,  ohh gezz
[19:02] <nishttal2> has anyone tried running Outlook on Ubuntu (Wine)
[19:03] <YohanMeister> hi bobweaver  :)
[19:04] <bobweaver> Hello there YohanMeister  :>)
[19:04] <donsd> minixvbox, Not user list, just the ones sending/typing messages.
[19:05] <donsd> Like you and bobweaver.
[19:05] <minixvbox> donsd: oh, not sure sorry
[19:05] <donsd> No prob.\
[19:06] <donsd> minixvbox, You have helped enough. :)
[19:06] <minixvbox> donsd: yay, i'm useful! :)
[19:06] <He4dShOt> hi
[19:07] <He4dShOt> how can i open in terminal a smartphone that starts with gvfs
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> donsd  what client are you using?
[19:07] <He4dShOt> ?
[19:07] <minixvbox> MonkeyDust: he is on xchat
[19:08] <minixvbox> personally i prefer the way xchat does it, right-justified (helps readibility for me)
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> i use irssi
[19:10] <minixvbox> i'm just getting used to irssi myself, the only client in the minix repo
[19:10] <He4dShOt> the partitions on the phone are mounted like this gphoto2://[usb:001,004]/store_00010001
[19:10] <__Alex_> irssi is awesome! :D
[19:11] <He4dShOt> how can i open it in terminal?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> He4dShOt  that is a local path, please paste it here http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[19:12] <donsd> MonkeyDust, XChat on Ubuntu.
[19:13] <nathaneltitane_> how can i run a script ONCE on reboot and have it delete itself afterwards
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> nathaneltitane_  write another script: if it finds the first script, delete it
[19:14] <donsd> Just starting xchat, would irssi be worth trying for me on ubuntu?
[19:14] <nathaneltitane_> script 1: execute, reboot script2: find s1 - delete?
[19:14] <nagarjuna__> hi everyone, is there any package for the getting 3d icons like mac
[19:14] <minixvbox> donsd: up to you, it is a terminal based client
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> nathaneltitane_  that's the idea
[19:15] <nathaneltitane_> ok
[19:15] <nathaneltitane_> sounds simple
[19:16] <minixvbox> donsd: i thought i'd hate irssi, but its starting to grow on me
[19:16] <nathaneltitane_> MonkeyDust: can i have script 2 remove itself too?
[19:16] <neoinr> According to df, I am using 7.9gb/20gb of my VPS, yet I'm using 100% with 0 available.  - What does this mean?
[19:17] <donsd> minixvbox, Back to right justified users. I don't mind the justification, but would like to shorten. I can drag column, but it goes back to longest nick.
[19:17] <trism> nathaneltitane_: the first answer here seems like a pretty nice solution, although it requires a bit of setup: http://serverfault.com/questions/148341/linux-schedule-command-to-run-once-after-reboot-runonce-equivalent
[19:17] <omegalimit> Hi, I have a GoFlex external HD that is in read-only mode and was wondering how I would change that to read/write; I'm trying to transfer files to it but I can't on Ubuntu
[19:18] <minixvbox> donsd: yeah, not sure if that can be altered (funnily enough i like it that way too)
[19:19] <celthunder> omegalimit: are your permissions set right do you have the fs tools installed and mount -o remount rw it?
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> nathaneltitane_: just make the last line of the script the command to delete iteslf.
[19:19] <nathaneltitane_> trism: thanks
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> itself even
[19:19] <minixvbox> donsd: not much of a problem for me because i tend to use xchat fullscreen anyway
[19:19] <celthunder> er rw
[19:20] <omegalimit> celthunder: I'm trying to edit the permissions as root but it still isn'
[19:20] <omegalimit> isn't working
[19:21] <celthunder> omegalimit: do you have the fs tools installed and did you mount it with write permissions
[19:21] <omegalimit> celthunder: No
[19:22] <omegalimit> i will try those
[19:22] <celthunder> omegalimit: then writing may not work properly also you may need to be in the storage group
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> nathaneltitane_: You might also be interested in the "at" command.
[19:22] <nathaneltitane_> @reboot?
[19:23] <donsd> minixvbox, I think I am in full-screen unless there is a setting for it.
[19:23] <yaklabas> #montreal
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> nathaneltitane_: man at
[19:23] <nathaneltitane_> just did
[19:23] <minixvbox> donsd: by full-screen i just meant i maximised the window
[19:23] <nathaneltitane_> mixed up with cron '@'
[19:23] <tauquir> how to remove write protection from my thumb drive ubuntu
[19:23] <Somelauw> Does anyone know how to check for hardware virtualization support?
[19:24] <tauquir> how to remove write protection from my thumb drive ubuntu?
[19:24] <donsd> minixvbox, The users on the left are nice and small, but on the left takes about 1/4 of screen. (I have fonts cranked up due to poor eyesight.)
[19:24] <miketheman> jrib: upstart overrides exist in natty onwards - nothing about how to do this prior to natty, such as lucid
[19:24] <ssta> Somelauw: look at the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and look for the vmx or svm flags
[19:25] <nathaneltitane_> jhutchkins_wk: so how do i specify at reboot specifically
[19:25] <ssta> Somelauw: one is the AMD flag and the other is intel (I don't remember which is which)
[19:25] <jrib> miketheman: you are correct.  What you can do before natty is add a condition like "and never" to the start conditions in the script
[19:25] <davidhayesbigtoe> hello, i'm curious about the new rasberrypi B board. is anyone in here familiar?
[19:26] <theadmin> davidhayesbigtoe: Ubuntu doesn't run on it, so it's offtopic here
[19:26] <donsd> minixvbox, I just joined #xchat. Probably more appropriate there. You have helped me with all my immediate questions anyway.  Thanks again.
[19:26] <nathaneltitane_> yes it does
[19:26] <madame> salut
[19:26] <Somelauw> There is no svm flag. There is a vmx flag.
[19:26] <minixvbox> donsd: no worries :)
[19:26] <omegalimit> celthunder: got it to work, thanks :D
[19:26] <davidhayesbigtoe> theadmin - damn, that's what i was getting at.. is there going to be any sort of ubuntu support or "official ARM"
[19:26] <minixvbox> !fr | madame
[19:26] <madame> comment cava
[19:27] <theadmin> davidhayesbigtoe: None
[19:27] <ssta> Somelauw: then you have support.  You only get one flag or the other
[19:27] <theadmin> davidhayesbigtoe: Sorry
[19:27] <madame> http://binnazabla.com/?r=a07e8f90
[19:27] <nathaneltitane_> madame: la majorité des personnes ici parlent anglais
[19:27] <tauquir> guys help me out My thumb drive is not allowing me to write anything? Its got write protected. How to fix it in ubuntu?
[19:27] <richh>        ; )
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[19:27] <dayy>        ; )
[19:27] <Iove>        ; )
[19:27] <oIimpus>        ; )
[19:27]  * oIimpus        ; )
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[19:27] <FloodBot1> oIimpus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <madame> ok
[19:27] <FloodBot1> Iove: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <nathaneltitane_> boot madame
[19:27] <Somelauw> ssta: Do I still need to enable the support somehow?
[19:27] <madame> turk varmi?
[19:28] <davidhayesbigtoe> theadmin that's ok, thank you for the answer, one question though, can you maybe direct me to any sort of ubuntu ARM that is community dev'd or anything?
[19:28] <theadmin> !arm | davidhayesbigtoe
[19:28] <ssta> Somelauw: there's sometimes a switch in the bios.  I'm not sure though, generally it Just Works in my experience
[19:28] <madame> http://binnazabla.com/?r=a07e8f90
[19:28] <davidhayesbigtoe> thank you guys very much, you've been very kind and helpful
[19:29] <madame> http://binnazabla.com/?r=a07e8f90
[19:29] <celthunder> davidhayesbigtoe: your best bet would be looking at the versions made for phones or debian
[19:29] <nathaneltitane_> CAN SOMEONE BOOT MADAME!!!???
[19:29] <madame> ?
[19:29] <celthunder> nathaneltitane_: ?
[19:29] <pangolin> madame: Please stop spamming
[19:29] <craigbass1976> I've got a router acting as a wireless point.  I've got an ubuntu box acting as a dhcp server.  I've forgotten the ip of the router and don't want to reset it.  Can I somehow figure it out externally?  I already did a traceroute 192.168.2.70 (where 70 if the ip of my android phone that's on the network) but it's only showing me one hop.
[19:30] <madame> ok
[19:30] <Somelauw> ssta: I am using hp if that helps.
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> craigbass1976: The lease for the router should be logged (assuming it's on dhcp).
[19:30] <celthunder> craigbass1976: yes
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> craigbass1976: You can also use nmap to discover unidentified devices.
[19:30] <craigbass1976> jhutchins_wk, it's not
[19:30] <ssta> Somelauw: it doesn't.  Just try it and see I guess
[19:31] <davidhayesbigtoe> celthunder yea, i've seen ARM's of bt5 on an android before.. but i don't need pentesting on the pi (just yet) I wanna basically have a small ubuntu box and run airplay from an iphone or from an adroid and use the rasberrypi for hdmi output to a flatscreen.. cheaper than most solutions. and i don't have a wifi capable tv. :-/
[19:31] <finish06> anyone know what is up with VLC?... does anyone else have problems with it?  ever since I did most recent update via software center or w/e it is, my VLC is only full screen, regarldess of the aspect ratio or such chose... so i think it is ubuntu related
[19:31] <ssta> craigbass1976: route -n should tell you what is set as the default gateway
[19:31] <He4dShOt> MonkeyDust, i'm here again...what is a local path?
[19:32] <celthunder> davidhayesbigtoe: mhl outputs hdmi from most newer phones worth anything
[19:32] <celthunder> the adapter is 15 to 20 dollars
[19:32] <davidhayesbigtoe> celthunder - yea, i wanna nerd out and make it more complicated though
[19:33] <Somelauw> ssta: I tried running virtualbox and it runs for a while, but then suddenly says "Restart the machine" and it shows some hexadecimal numbers.
[19:33] <minixvbox> He4dShOt: a path only you have access to locally, you need to upload the screenshot so others can see it
[19:33] <craigbass1976> ssta, I'd have to do that from the android phone though, right?
[19:33] <davidhayesbigtoe> and the pi is $35usd with the B board and i want one. thats my excuse for needing it. hah
[19:33] <ssta> craigbass1976: from any box that has gotten info from dhcp that can see the internet
[19:33] <elijah> Is there a way to quit a program while alt+tabbing through the apps? On Mac when I command+tab I can let go of tab and then press Q to quit the app. Does something similar exist in Ubuntu? I found it to be a nice usability feature.
[19:33] <bobweaver> I have a question is there any ubuntu POS (point of sale) programs out there ?
[19:33] <tr33m4n> davidhayesbigtoe, can't wait until next round of sales
[19:33] <ssta> davidhayesbigtoe: I want 5...just waiting for them to be available again
[19:34] <elijah> bobweaver: There was some work on something like that for Drupal I think
[19:34] <tauquir> guys help me out My thumb drive is not allowing me to write anything? Its got write protected. How to fix it in ubuntu?
[19:34] <craigbass1976> ssta, there's only the phone then.  I'm trying to shut off wpa2 so that an older laptop can get on, and the phone is the only other wireless capable device here.
[19:34] <elijah> bobweaver: But the requires you setting up much more than you probably like
[19:35] <ssta> craigbass1976: okay, guess it's the phoen then :)
[19:36] <elijah> bobweaver: Not a very active project but last activity was December, I have seen it demoed in NYC at a Drupal Meetup and it was pretty impressive - http://drupal.org/project/uberpos
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> bobweaver: Most POS systems are commercial.
[19:37] <bobweaver> elijah,  cool and thanks
[19:37] <shade34331> how do I take away password prompt for ssh for a specific user?
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> bobweaver: http://corecashless.com sells a couple of RHEL based ones with LOTS of different options.
[19:37] <ArizonaBay> how can i make QbitTorrent my default client ^
[19:37] <ArizonaBay> %
[19:37] <ArizonaBay> ?????????????
[19:37] <FloodBot1> ArizonaBay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> bobweaver: Novell sells an LSTP like system based on IBM hardware and SuSE.
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> shade34331: Check man sshd_conf
[19:38] <craigbass1976> ssta, now how the blazes to get god info from a non rooted android phone.  I'm guessing I'm in the SOL department, and will just reset the router.
[19:38] <shade34331> jhutchins_wk: if I were to just add "PasswordAuthentication no" to that users config file it should work right?
[19:40] <ssta> craigbass1976: I must admit, I have no idea how to get that info from a phone.  You could try portscanning the subnet I suppose.  Most routers run something on port 80
[19:42] <tr33m4n> craigbass1976, just jumping in here, did you change your router ip when setting it up? Have you tried the factory ip address? Also what is it?
[19:42] <jhutchins_wk> shade34331: I'm not sure, that would try to default to pki if it did anything.  If you want to lock a user out or limit the user to pki, the correct place to do it is in the server config, which I belive allows per-user configuration.
[19:42] <jazzkovsky> I installed Lucid over an existing WinXP, but the Grub menu won't show an entry for Windows. After booting Ubunut, I got a warning about bad sectors on the drive. Can these bad sectors prevent Grub from probing for XP?
[19:43] <shade34331> jhutchins_wk: I've been going through that man page but I don't see anything about specify a specific user
[19:43] <home> ciao
[19:44] <home> Ciao!
[19:44] <craigbass1976> tr33m4n, it's different.  It came as 1.1 or some such, but I changed it to something that I'm sure made sense at the time (and I'm going to do a facepalm when I find out) and turned it into an access point with this desktop being the dhcp server.
[19:44] <shade34331> I need to keep password ssh for all users but one, we're setting up a git repo which allows people to pull from teh server but if their key isn't recognized it's asking for password which is not what we want
[19:44] <ssta> craigbass1976: the followingf will list IPs listening on port 80: sudo nmap -p 80 -sS 192.168.1.0/24
[19:45] <home> Hello!
[19:45] <rioderelfte> shade34321, Match User user\n\t<config>
[19:45] <itaylor57> shade34321, gitolite can handle that also for you
[19:45] <celthunder> ssta: thats assuming its in the subnet you gave...
[19:46] <ssta> celthunder: it was an example.  He seems pretty clueful, so I'm guessing he can extrapolate
[19:46] <roasted> Question - does anybody know offhand where the synaptics file is for controlling the mouse?
[19:46] <itaylor57> shade34321, https://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite
[19:46] <celthunder> ssta ok i keep going in and out sorry
[19:47] <tr33m4n> craigbass1976, ah I see. Could this help your quest? http://www.appbrain.com/app/network-info-ii/aws.apps.networkInfoIi not sure whether you need root though
[19:47] <shade34331> itaylor57: that is what I'm setting up:)
[19:47] <celthunder> roasted /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics or something like that
[19:47] <itaylor57> shade34321, cewl
[19:48] <roasted> celthunder: bingo. thanks!
[19:48] <craigbass1976> tr33m4n, Maybe.  ssta gave me the command that worked.  But WAIT!  You guys ready?  I stuck a piece of duct tape with the ip address right on the stupid thing, just couldn't see it without picking the router up.  Facepalm after all...
[19:48] <ssta> hmm, I just tried that command.  I seem to have one more device on my network listening on port 80 than I know about...
[19:48] <drno_> Hiya folks =)
[19:48] <celthunder> ssta: lol
[19:48] <roasted> Has anybody installed Ubuntu on an HP Probook ultrabook? It's backlight is... uh... gone. Nearly impossible to install with...
[19:48] <tr33m4n> craigbass1976, haha, d'oh! too sensible
[19:49] <celthunder> craigbass1976: you should know your ips without taping them on
[19:49] <ssta> I must have a machine turned on that I forgot about
[19:49] <tr33m4n> celthunder, depends
[19:49] <ssta> hmm...3 desktops, a phone, a router, and a VM...
[19:49] <james12345> Hi, having a problem trying to get the desktop background image (currently set) on the current LTS version. TO be clear I'm trying to get the actual image (or a path to the image) that is _currently_ used, not change it.
[19:49] <ssta> that's omly 6
[19:49] <celthunder> ssta: you forgot about something that is serving on port 80?
[19:49] <tr33m4n> ssta :p
[19:49] <drno_> Looking for some guidance... I've got a system with two 3TB drives... what I tried to do was RAID-1 'em during install... no love on boot.  Does anyone know offhand what the magic sauce is to getting a bootable raided root with 3+ TB drives with ... any... version of ubuntu?
[19:50] <celthunder> tr33m4n: what does?
[19:50] <drno_> I've seen lots of forum posts, but none of them seem to get solved (or, the solutions don't get posted that I've seen).
[19:50] <ssta> celthunder: the router only port forwards to one of them, but I have a lot of internal stuff that listens on 80
[19:50] <tr33m4n> celthunder, how many ips you need to remember :p
[19:50] <riverfr0zen> going to have to switch a server from hardy to lucid...
[19:50] <celthunder> tr33m4n: i have about 20 devices on my home network and about 30 at work
[19:50] <Guest17510> hi, is there a way to make fsck to check the hard disks in the background? I have two non-essential drives, each 2TB that are delaying by boot by more than 30 minutes every now and then, while I do not need them immediately after startup?
[19:51] <celthunder> tr33m4n: i know what each should be and where they should be
[19:51] <nathaneltitane__> Guest1750: make your fstab skip it
[19:51] <nathaneltitane__> ok
[19:51] <nathaneltitane__> it rebooted
[19:51] <nathaneltitane__> on old
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> celthunder: the only ip i know by hand is 127.0.0.1 and even here aim not really sure
[19:51] <nathaneltitane__> re-rebooting
[19:51] <tr33m4n> celthunder, yes but some people don't have time for that knowledge and would rather be productive
[19:51] <ssta> hmm, and the one I don't know about doesn't respond to arping...and in fact doesn't seem to exist.  Anyone ever know nmap to lie?
[19:52] <jazzkovsky> Grub can't find my Windows installation and my web search was not successful. What do I need to make grub look through all partitions? os-prober does not output anything.
[19:52] <drno_> Well, if anyone can thinkg of a guide or has experience getting this to work, I'd love to hear about it.
[19:52] <CannedCorn> sorry for asking again but is there a way to tell apt-get install to not start init.d stuff after installing something
[19:52] <chachin> so um anyone know of a tool for ubuntu 11.04 that i can see: connection / speeds / unique connections/ how many hits/ and lots of stuff for my modules for Android roms i have?
[19:52] <Guest17510> nathaneltitane__, to skip the check would force me to manually check them.. can ubuntu not do it automatically?
[19:52] <danboid> Whats the default user log in details in precise?
[19:52] <FireStorms> Hey, can anyone see anything wrong --- security wise --- with my listening ports http://pastebin.com/vqB6S8qG
[19:53] <celthunder> chachin: tcpdump?
[19:53]  * chachin googgles that
[19:53] <celthunder> danboid: ? whatever you set up when you installed it
[19:53] <danboid> celthunder, Its not installed yet
[19:54] <danboid> I'm booting 12.04 beta for OMAP4 via serial console you see
[19:54] <celthunder> danboid: root/no pw?
[19:54] <tr33m4n> celthunder, eg I know all the irq's, optimal latency and preferred vu of all my external audio equipment, however could not tell you my flat mates ip address
[19:54] <neoinr> My VPS is not letting accounts other than root create files/folder, with error "No space left on device"
[19:55] <minixvbox> !12.04 | danboid
[19:55] <neoinr> As root I can create fine
[19:55] <roasted> Has anybody had any success with Ubuntu on the HP Folio 13's?
[19:55] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  what do you get if you do "fdisk -l" in terminal
[19:55] <celthunder> neoinr: do you have space /quotas set up
[19:55] <jazzkovsky> wylde: I see all partitions
[19:55] <neoinr> celthunder: nope
[19:55] <jazzkovsky> wylde: I can mount the prtitions
[19:55] <neoinr> celthunder: And this is a new problem that has appeared out of the blue, first time I encounted was trying to install postgresql
[19:56] <wylde> jazzkovsky: including your windows partition?
[19:56] <jazzkovsky> yep
[19:56] <celthunder> neoinr: df -h pastebin
[19:56] <wylde> jazzkovsky: ok at least we know you dodn't blow away your windows partition :) heh
[19:57] <jazzkovsky> :-) It's not my computer so I would really like to avoid reinstalling XP. Some SMART tool shows 3300 bad sectors, can this prevent GRUB from seeing the Windows partition?
[19:58] <jazzkovsky> Windows ran just fine before
[19:58] <angel282> Hello, I would like to install zend optimizer on my ubuntu server, does ubuntu have some package that include the zend optimizer?
[19:58] <celthunder> if its the boot sectors yes
[19:58] <celthunder> angel282: apt-cache search
[19:58] <celthunder> or google for a deb file if you find one yes
[19:58] <jazzkovsky> celthunder: can I even mount a partition with a corrupted boot sector??
[19:59] <celthunder> jazzkovsky: yes
[19:59] <ssta> ah, I misread the output, it's NOT listening on port 80...
[19:59] <ssta> I'd still like to know what it is though
[19:59] <roasted_> Has anybody had any luck with Ubuntu on the HP Folio 13?
[19:59] <neoinr> I do not understand what is happening to me
[19:59] <neoinr> Ok, finally back
[20:00] <neoinr> celthunder: did you reply while I was pinged out?
[20:00] <jazzkovsky> How can I check, if the a boot sector of a specific partition actually is corrupted?
[20:00] <celthunder> neoinr: i dont know what was your question again
[20:00] <LucidGuy> I had a linux box crash on me while I was pinging it remotely.  Now the system doing the pinging then dropped its network connection.  After I forced the crashed system down, the remote system all of a sudden regained its network and posted the following to the console..    http://paste.ubuntu.com/869876/       Any ideas why this could have happend?
[20:00] <neoinr> celthunder: you were looking at my df pastebin
[20:00] <neoinr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870337/
[20:01] <celthunder> neoinr: uhm resend the link nvm you just did sec
[20:01] <celthunder> uhm do a df from the host
[20:02] <neoinr> celthunder: I'm not sure what you mean
[20:02] <celthunder> that looks like a vm that ran out of space on the host
[20:02] <fgera> hi
[20:02] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  did you use sudo os-prober? you need root permission to use it
[20:02] <neoinr> celthunder: I don't have access to the host, it is a VPS
[20:02] <neoinr> celthunder: But I can download a 100mb test file without incident
[20:02] <mintman> hello anyone noticing problems with 64 bit ubuntu and gnome 2??
[20:02] <jazzkovsky> http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/node/57 claims, I cannot mount a partition with a corrupted boot sector, which I would expect
[20:02] <jazzkovsky> wylde: no output when I did os-prober
[20:02] <celthunder> neoinr: then complain to the provider
[20:02] <neoinr> celthunder: figured as much, thanks
[20:02] <riverfr0zen> Can you please paste that pastebin link one more time?
[20:02] <jazzkovsky> as root of course
[20:03] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  but did you use the command with sudo
[20:03] <celthunder> mintman: everyone should gnome 2 is eol
[20:03] <jazzkovsky> sudo -i
[20:03] <celthunder> neoinr: yeah sorry
[20:03] <wylde> jazzkovsky: sudo os-prober
[20:03] <jazzkovsky> tht should be the same
[20:03] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please
[20:03] <wylde> jazz if it didn't see anything you wouldn't be able to log on to that comptuer at all heh
[20:04] <fgera> when editing nvidia xorg.conf I lost monitor signal. how can I return to the previous configuration without reinstalling ubuntu? :)
[20:04] <mintman> celthunder: seen that just using linux mint version and it still gives a jab in the but, not happy with unity :(
[20:04] <jazzkovsky> wylde: nope, no output
[20:04] <jazzkovsky> weird
[20:04] <celthunder> mintman: mint uses mate which is a port of gnome 2
[20:04] <ilpollo> please i need the dir of the spanish chanel
[20:04] <ilpollo> thanks
[20:04] <celthunder> mintman: install that if you want
[20:04] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  ok how about sudo update-grub
[20:04] <jazzkovsky> hmm... reinstll grub?
[20:04] <fgera> ! spanish
[20:05] <jazzkovsky> wylde: it tells me about Ubuntu and memtest
[20:05] <mintman> celthunder: how to install from command line?
[20:05] <wylde> jazzkovsky: possibly, lets try to update it first :)
[20:05] <wylde> jazzkovsky: ok
[20:05] <celthunder> mintman: apt-cache search mate and find it
[20:05] <mintman> celthunder: apt-get install mate ?
[20:05] <mintman> celthunder: roger
[20:05] <minixvbox> mate isn't supported
[20:06] <celthunder> mintman: may need a ppc i am not on ubuntu so no idea if it is in the repos or not
[20:06] <fgera> when editing nvidia xorg.conf I lost monitor signal. how can I return to the previous configuration without reinstalling ubuntu? :) any idea?
[20:06] <minixvbox> !mint
[20:06] <wylde> jazzkovsky: the last two comments on this thread describe re-installing grub http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887845
[20:06] <celthunder> minixvbox: he didnt ask about mint he asked about mate which is a seperate project im pretty sure
[20:06] <jazzkovsky> thanks will try
[20:07] <mintman> minixvbox: look I can figure it out from here no big deal in me being a split from Debian and Ubuntu
[20:07] <minixvbox> celthunder: mate isn't supported under ubuntu
[20:07] <ssta> aha!  Found it!!
[20:07] <mintman> minixvbox: this is not rocket science
[20:07] <Glacee> I have a pxe boot/seed file setup, I am trying to setup the installer to setup the eth0 interface with static IP... but dhcp settings seems to override.. is this normal?
[20:07] <ssta> it's a laptop in suspend, yet it's responding to pings.  Must be a Dell thing or something
[20:07] <wylde> jazzkovsky: it also provides a link to explain chrooting if you find you need to
[20:07] <jazzkovsky> wylde: this looks like it will install grub1, am I wrong?
[20:08] <minixvbox> mintman: are you using ubuntu?
[20:08] <ssta> that's a relief :)
[20:08] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  moment, I'll double check
[20:08] <celthunder> ssta: thats an odd suspend mode lol or is it wake on network traffic in bios
[20:08] <mintman> yes/no I play with it in a virtual box, and use mint as the actual desktop
[20:09] <jazzkovsky> wylde: I am not sure, why I would want to chroot, are you talking about using the live CD?
[20:09] <fgera> cethunder: when editing nvidia xorg.conf I lost monitor signal. how can I return to the previous configuration without reinstalling ubuntu? :) any idea?
[20:09] <ssta> celthunder: yeah, must be something like that.  As long as I've now worked out what it is, I'm happy...I didn't like the idea of a device on the network I didn't know about :)
[20:09] <celthunder> fgera: rm xorg.conf
[20:09] <fgera> celthunder*
[20:09] <wylde> jazzkovsky: if you had to, if the grub re-install fails you'll have to chroot from the livecd
[20:09] <jazzkovsky> i understand
[20:09] <fgera> celthunder, thanks
[20:10] <mintman> minixvbox: yes/no use in virtual box and multipass usb stick to run hacks and windows fixes. Mainly Windows Virus fixes and regestry edits.
[20:10] <fgera> celthunder, I had to reinstale it twice and I don't want to do it again eheheh
[20:10] <roasted_> Has anybody had any luck with Ubuntu on the HP Folio 13?
[20:10] <shade34331> just in case anybody was wondering to block password access to a specific user for ssh you just add Match User myusername PasswordAuthentication no at the bottom of /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:10] <wylde> jazzkovsky: that thread is about someone who had legacy grub bits laying around, when you re-install it should use grub2
[20:10] <jazzkovsky> ok thanks
[20:10] <multipass> multipass
[20:11] <wylde> jazzkovsky: did you go to page 2 as well?
[20:11] <mintman> multipass usb stick with multi boot function look it up
[20:11] <celthunder> fgera: reinstall is not a solution whoever told you that is either lazy or wrong
[20:11] <jazzkovsky> wylde: didn't see it at first, searching for instructions now. Guess I should find it *grins*
[20:12] <wylde> jazzkovsky:  all good, last thing I want is someone mucking up their computer doing something I told them hehe
[20:12] <jazzkovsky> ah just next to that paragraph *smirks*
[20:12] <jazzkovsky> heheh
[20:12] <groe> why isn't it possible to run KVM on a host system without CPU-support for hardware virtualization? i read some docs stating that but could not find an explaination. any ideas?
[20:12] <celthunder> wylde: thats always fun to watch though
[20:13] <mintman> celthunder: running XFCE do to the none support of gnome2 looks like I may start using fluxbox again
[20:13] <wylde> celthunder: lol yeah, as long as it's somone else heh
[20:13] <celthunder> groe: common sense
[20:13] <celthunder> groe: you answered your own question
[20:13] <mintman> multipass: there is also yumi
[20:14] <celthunder> mintman: gl i use xmonad
[20:14] <groe> celthunder: so this is not ubuntu specific? a friend told me he used KVM on CentOS on an i7 2600K cpu (not having support for IVT)
[20:14] <JohnnyonFlame> Is there any boot option I can use on the LiveUSB so that it will ignore my harddrives during boot?
[20:15] <celthunder> groe: either the cpu supports the virtualization method you want to use or it doesnt
[20:15] <MacGyver> jest ktos PL ?
[20:15] <tumppu> JohnnyonFlame: in bios settings yoy can select boot device
[20:15] <mintman> celthunder: explain xmonad never heard of this?
[20:15] <minixvbox> groe: i7 cpu definately has virtualisation support
[20:15] <theadmin> !pl | MacGyver
[20:15] <groe> minixvbox: i read that the K-series of i7 do _not_ have support for IVT
[20:15] <Glacee> I have a pxe boot/seed file setup, I am trying to setup the installer to setup the eth0 interface with static IP... but dhcp settings seems to override.. is this normal?
[20:16] <celthunder> mintman: tiling wm  that uses haskell
[20:16] <celthunder> groe: is ivt the flag required
[20:16] <mintman> celthunder: Seen it having trouble with remembering how to setup wifi through fluxbox
[20:16] <groe> celthunder: i thought so? some KVM tutorial stated that
[20:16] <celthunder> mintman: depends on your network manager and etc
[20:17] <celthunder> groe: i have kvm and openvz working fine on an i7
[20:17] <groe> celthunder: what i7 exactly are you using?
[20:18] <mintman> celthunder: I play around with it! Been a few years since playing with fluxbox. Last time was when I ran Arch Linux.
[20:18] <celthunder> mintman: i am in arch now
[20:18] <groe> celthunder: because wikipedia says the K-models are exceptional
[20:19] <fgera> I'm almost there
[20:19] <celthunder> fgera: what
[20:19] <fgera> the system can now recognize my graphic card but not the monitor :)
[20:20] <JohnnyonFlame> Is there any way I can tell my system to ignore /dev/sda?
[20:20] <celthunder> fgera: what are you using for a monitor
[20:20] <celthunder> JohnnyonFlame: yes
[20:20] <fgera> celthunder lg flatron l1720b
[20:20] <JohnnyonFlame> It`s full of bad blocks, and any read/write the LiveCD does nearly hangs everything
[20:20] <celthunder> JohnnyonFlame: remove it form fstab
[20:20] <celthunder> from*
[20:20] <fgera> celthunder, I'm running sudo nvidia-settings
[20:20] <JohnnyonFlame> It`s a LiveUSB, won`t it require a reboot?
[20:21] <mintman> celthunder: got off that roll coaster ride to much tweakin for me to keep up with Arch Linux and I'm a Distro Hopper.  Slackware and Gentoo last major hopes, playing with chakra,  Frugalware, MadBox looking at these new generation of small linux distro's
[20:21] <fgera> celthunder, I can see my graphic card geforce fx5600 but not the monitor, as the resolution max is 640x480
[20:22] <mintman> celthunder: still happy with Backtrack 5 for windows fixes and added tools
[20:22] <celthunder> mintman: i got tired of gentoo sabayon was ok if you started out with core lfs was also pretty nice once you had it installed and didi all the updates
[20:22] <fgera> celthunder, monitor aka screen :)
[20:22] <JohnnyonFlame> celthunder: Problem is, I`m using a LiveUSB install,
[20:22] <spyro2> JohnnyonFlame, try sudo rm /dev/sda
[20:22] <celthunder> spyro2: uhm what
[20:22] <fgera> celthunder, "Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:  Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0."
[20:23] <spyro2> :D
[20:23] <celthunder> spyro2: that wont work
[20:23] <rebe> ubuntu don't detect sd cards ?
[20:23] <spyro2> let me see
[20:23] <celthunder> fgera: nvidia has its own x and monitor detection thinf
[20:23] <Xanthippus> Heeey
[20:23] <mintman> celthunder: Sabayon was ok, graphics intense on my gpu. Not bad still nothing beats the terminal :)
[20:23] <celthunder> rebe: as usual depends
[20:23] <Xanthippus> I have a problem booting Ubuntu 12.04.
[20:24] <JohnnyonFlame> spyro2: Now I can use GParted, as it does not find sda anymore, ty
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Xanthippus  #ubuntu+1
[20:24] <celthunder> mintman: why im still on arch and lfs
[20:24] <spyro2> np
[20:24] <minixvbox> !12.04 | Xanthippus
[20:24] <mintman> lspci -knn
[20:24] <rebe> nvm Its ok now, had to replug it couple times
[20:24] <spyro2> celthunder, hurray
[20:24] <Xanthippus> OK thanks
[20:24] <Shojo> is there a GUI to configure mouse speed in linux?
[20:24] <JohnnyonFlame> with a bit of luck install won`t detect it either
[20:24] <CFHowlett> Shojo   see the mouse settings under preferences
[20:24] <celthunder> spyro2: hmm i must be retarded that so sounds like it should break something and not work
[20:25] <Shojo> thank you CFHowlett
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Shojo  there's gpointing device settings blah in the repos
[20:25] <celthunder> Shojo: yes
[20:25] <efi> hi!
[20:26] <efi> someone can help me?
[20:26] <CFHowlett> !ask|efi
[20:26] <spyro2> celthunder, it's a device file pointing to the actual device
[20:26] <JohnnyonFlame> Install is still pointing towards sda, install still doesnt work and dmesg is still showing up those pesky errors
[20:26] <fgera> celthunder, I see. but I can I make it recognize the screen correct resolution? there's a screen driver for ubuntu maybe?
[20:26] <efi> I want to install xfce in ubuntu
[20:26] <mintman> celthunder: you think gnome will return with better support and developers in the next few months
[20:26] <JohnnyonFlame> efi run sudo apt-get install xfce
[20:26] <CFHowlett> efi   sudo apt-get install xfce4
[20:26] <efi> xfce or xfce4?
[20:27] <celthunder> spyro2: yeah i know
[20:27] <JohnnyonFlame> xfce4
[20:27] <yashwant> hi
[20:27] <spyro2> JohnnyonFlame, how does it not work?
[20:27] <celthunder> mintman: i dontt know or care
[20:27] <efi> OK
[20:27] <JohnnyonFlame> logoff, click the `gear` and then select XFCE
[20:27] <JohnnyonFlame> then you`re all set
[20:27] <roasted_> Has anybody had any luck with Ubuntu on the HP Folio 13?
[20:27] <Shojo> i'm sorry but i have linux mint, what exactly are preferences?
[20:27] <JohnnyonFlame> spyro2: It takes AGES to find the partitions because it keeps hitting these bad blocks
[20:27] <CFHowlett> !mint|shojo
[20:27] <yashwant> i was installing tem viewer in ubuntu 10.10 but its not installed and it is giving error how to installed this software in ununtu 10.10
[20:28] <efi> What is lighter unity or unity 2D?
[20:28] <Shojo> there's noone there
[20:28] <nishttal2> how can I make Ubuntu as a backup server for 2 other laptops i have in my house (mac and windows)
[20:28] <celthunder> roasted_: what about it isnt working for you
[20:28] <nishttal2> bacula is too intimidating
[20:28] <roasted_> celthunder: well, I'm not sure. All of the sudden my trackpad started working which was the issue. lol?
[20:28] <mintman> Shojo:  private message look I use linux mint
[20:28] <CFHowlett> nishttal2   search for "backup" or "server" at this site:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/FullIssueIndex
[20:29] <efi> What is lighter unity or unity 2D
[20:29] <efi> ?
[20:29] <EvilResistance> !mint | mintman
[20:29] <celthunder> fgera: nvidia-xconfig
[20:29] <EvilResistance> !mint | Shojo
[20:29] <roasted_> celthunder: it was the trackpad + my brightness was at like 0% when it was booted up in the live usb, almost too unusable to utilize. But a quick grub entry fixed it.
[20:29] <JohnnyonFlame> efi: Unity 2D is "lighter"
[20:29] <fgera> celthunder, there's where I am :)
[20:29] <wylde> top
[20:29] <angel282> Does anyone familiar with the zend optimizer? I have Ubuntu 10.04 lucid, and I cant get it to work?
[20:30] <celthunder> angel282: whats the error
[20:30] <wylde> whoops, wrong window ><
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> !info zend lucid
[20:30] <efi> when i install ubuntu 10.04,the defualt is unity 2D?
[20:30] <celthunder> wylde: bottom
[20:30] <CFHowlett> efi   no not in 10.04
[20:30] <nishttal2> CFHowlett, dont see a solution
[20:30] <CFHowlett> efi   default in 10.04 is gnome
[20:31] <CFHowlett> nishttal2   there are lots of articles about backup in Full Circle Magazine.  Download and read ...
[20:31] <efi> and how can i install unity 2D and delete gnome/or what coming defualt?
[20:31] <CFHowlett> efi  not sure you can install unity in 10.04 ...
[20:31] <angel282> celthunder: its just not working, I've searched google and I found many posts that said optimizer not support php 5.3? any idea?
[20:31] <CFHowlett> efi see http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-0410-10.html
[20:32] <imi> hi
[20:32] <KI7MT> angel282, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:32] <imi> how can I make fdisk to make a partition beginning at block 63?
[20:32] <fgera> celthunder, GPU's: unknown; Displays: none;
[20:32] <efi> CFHowlett: thanks. and how can i delete gnome?
[20:33] <imi> my brother has a hdd with already half way resized ntfs partitions, but I have to create a partition at the block 63
[20:33] <CFHowlett> efi   why?  gnome is light, it's fully integrated and takes little room.  Just don't use it.
[20:33] <efi> its lighter then unity?
[20:33] <efi> unity netbook**
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> CFHowlett  then why give him/her the link?
[20:34] <fgera> celthunder, GPU's: unknown; Displays: none; Resolution: 75x75 dots per inch; Dimensions: 640x480 pixels (217x163 millime
[20:34] <efi> him*
[20:34] <JohnnyonFlame> efi: If you want something light, go for either LXDE or default Gnome
[20:34] <CFHowlett> efi   arguably "yes".  Lightest DE's would be xfce and lxde.  Consider them as well.
[20:34] <JohnnyonFlame> or even KDE
[20:34] <CFHowlett> MonkeyDust   Huh?  context ...
[20:35] <JohnnyonFlame> but definately xfce
[20:35] <celthunder> fgera: make your own config
[20:35] <nishttal2> CFHowlett, thanks.. Amanda looks promising
[20:35] <celthunder> fgera: also try commenting out dri
[20:35] <CFHowlett> nishttal2   have fun / be safe
[20:35] <efi> I am using Xfce,but there are a few settings that i cant configure and in unity/gnome its will be eaier
[20:35] <efi> esiar
[20:36] <celthunder> efi ?
[20:36] <CFHowlett> efi   *easier* ?  :)
[20:36] <efi> yes?
[20:36] <efi> sorry ;-)
[20:36] <ssta> hmm, isn't /dev/kvm supposed to be writeable by the kvm group?
[20:37] <spyro2> JohnnyonFlame, sudo rm /dev/sda* ?
[20:37] <austneal> hey guys
[20:37] <celthunder> austneal: hi?
[20:38] <FireStorms> Anyone know how come .sh files open, by default, with a prog called PyPar
[20:38] <ssta> ah, create the group, THEN modprobe...
[20:38] <celthunder> FireStorms: you told something somewhen/where to?
[20:38] <EvilResistance> FireStorms, your file-to-program settings might be screwed
[20:38] <imi> how can I make fdisk to make a partition beginning at block 63? my brother has a hdd with already half way resized ntfs partitions, but I have to create a partition at the block 63
[20:38] <austneal> Would anyone be willing to help me with an openVPN issue?
[20:38] <EvilResistance> austneal, ask about your issue to the channel, don't ask to ask'
[20:38] <blitz> !ask
[20:38] <celthunder> austneal: if you actually tell us the issue yes
[20:38] <blitz> whoops
[20:38] <EvilResistance> !ask > austneal
[20:39] <FireStorms> EvilResistance, is there a GUI to fix this?
[20:39] <celthunder> FireStorms: yes
[20:39] <EvilResistance> FireStorms, there probably is, but its been a while since i've had working Unity / GNOME
[20:39] <austneal> Ok, every time i connect to my openVPN server through the terminal, the DNS doesnt seem to work
[20:40] <FireStorms> celthunder, there is, which gui is this?
[20:40] <austneal> For instance, when connected, i cannot go to "www.google.com" but google's IP address will work
[20:40] <celthunder> austneal: any errors?
[20:40] <austneal> I can also ping ip addresses, but not domain names
[20:40] <sashraf> I am trying to share ppp0 over wlan0, these are the bash commands I did
[20:40] <sashraf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870456/
[20:40] <swapnil> n
[20:40] <sashraf> and I can't get it to work, any ideas?
[20:41]  * FireStorms gets out hammer, "come here Ubuntu... I just want to talk!!!"
[20:41] <austneal> I've tried using google's public DNS service, but that doesnt seem to work either
 does anyone know why downloading in ubuntu is 10 times slower then in windows ?
[20:41] <searching> hi
[20:41] <celthunder> FireStorms: no idea i dont use a gui file manager i assume nautilus would work to chang that though
 qbittorrent and transmission both gave slow downloading
[20:41] <ArizonaBay> in both clients it takes me 20 minutes to download 1 episode
[20:41] <ArizonaBay> <ArizonaBay> it takes me 5 minutes to do that on windows
[20:42] <celthunder> ArizonaBay: port forwarding done?
[20:42] <infernal> #gwaei
[20:42] <infernal> srry
[20:42] <searching> sqlite with php create table it is ok but insert into no error why?
[20:42] <ArizonaBay> celthunder what do u mean ^
[20:42] <FireStorms> EvilResistance, so you're not using a GUI right now?
[20:43] <ArizonaBay> no it snot done :x
[20:43] <jazzkovsky> wylde: Reinstalling GRUB did not help, it again only sees Linux, rd and memtest. Do you have more ideas?
[20:43] <EvilResistance> FireStorms, atm, i'm not at my linux machine, so i'm working at a windows server because i'm working on something for a Windows program for one of the jobs i have.  But on my Linux Machine, GNOME's runtime and stuff crupted, so I am using KDE atm
[20:43] <ArizonaBay> celthunder nevermind i just fixed it thanks
[20:44] <imi> how can I make fdisk to make a partition beginning at block 63? my brother has a hdd with already half way resized ntfs partitions, but I have to create a partition at the block 63
[20:44] <austneal> if anyone could PM me with help on the openVPN issue, i'd be really grateful
[20:45] <EvilResistance> austneal, just ask in channel about the issue
[20:45] <EvilResistance> !ask | austneal
[20:45] <austneal> I have
[20:45] <EvilResistance> then...
[20:45] <EvilResistance> !patience
[20:45] <austneal> Ok, every time i connect to my openVPN server through the terminal, the DNS doesnt seem to work
[20:45] <austneal> For instance, when connected, i cannot go to "www.google.com" but google's IP address will work
[20:45] <blitz> the version of mx in the ubuntu repo should really be 3.2.3 instead of 3.2.0 (there's a pretty critical python bug in 3.2.0) where do I report this
[20:45] <CFHowlett> austneal   see ##openvpn
[20:45] <FireStorms> !stress
[20:47] <messinese90> ciao a tutti :)
[20:47] <CFHowlett> !it|messinese90
[20:47] <austneal> Ok, every time i connect to my openVPN server through the terminal, the DNS doesnt seem to work. For instance, when connected, i cannot go to "www.google.com" but google's IP address will work
[20:48] <Gallomimia> okay so i've updated my ubuntu server distro version. it has a ton of old kernels installed. can i remove them? how can i get a list of them?
[20:49] <CFHowlett> Gallomimia   see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587462
[20:49] <KI7MT> Gallomimia, here's a simple how-too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587462
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  you can use ubuntu-tweak for it
[20:49] <Gallomimia> sweet. i can read it twice and learn twice as much :)
[20:49] <fgera> celthunder, I own you a bottle of portuguese wine, even if I can't fix this
[20:50]  * CFHowlett OH!  We get alcohol for helping out?  Sweet!
[20:50] <KI7MT> sorry, CFHowlett beat me to the punch :-)
[20:50] <shade34341> if I have a list of software I had on another computer how can I install on a new computer, for some reason dpkg --set-selections < source isn't working
[20:51] <Gran> Hi, everyone! Could someone help me to figure out where is the problem: I'm trying to configure L2TP/IPSec on my Ubuntu Server 11.04 as described at http://blog.riobard.com/2010/04/30/l2tp-over-ipsec-ubuntu and when I'm running command: "sudo /etc/init.d/ipsec restart", it says: "openswan failed to exec the requested action - the following error occurred:" and no error code is given?
[20:51] <fgera> celthunder, I am not able to do my on screen configuration as it stills unknow and only resolution avaiable is 640 x 480
[20:51] <sashraf> Anyone? I am having trouble sharing internet connection, the official page guide doesn't work for me
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !clone| shade34341 you mean this?
[20:52] <shade34341> MonkeyDust: yes
[20:52] <shade34341> I need to write it down since I keep forgetting it and keep finding tutorials online for using dpkg which doesn't want to work with me><
[20:55] <spyro2> sashraf, i share it through iptables
[20:56] <supremo13> I have a Ubuntu Server 8.04 running BIND.  If I upgrade to 10.04 will my server retain the BIND configs?
[20:57] <CFHowlett> supremo13   mind want to ask at #ubuntuserver
[20:57] <supremo13> Thanks!
[20:58] <CFHowlett> supremo13   #ubuntu-server
[20:59] <FireStorms> Does anyone who creates bash script create a dir e.g., bash_Scripts, with subcategories like security, maintenance, etc, etc,. Or is their a better method of organising?
[21:01] <ssta> FireStorms: I keep them all in subversion, but for running, most of them live in ~/bin
[21:02] <KI7MT> Fireblasto, the best way is whatever works best for you. I do mine they wa you described, some are bash, some are python or perl etc.
[21:02] <FireStorms> ssta that's not a bad idea!
[21:03] <ssta> FireStorms: different people do it different ways.  Whatever works for you I guess... :)
[21:04] <donsd> Where are vim.txt (help) files in Ubuntu?
[21:05] <xr600> Anybody with experience on Ubuntu's support for hibernation etc. on various hardware platforms ?
[21:07] <ssta> donsd: there's a vim-doc package.  That has some html help files
[21:07] <xr600> One of my servers died, and I need a replacement. Thinking of doing some kind of WOL setup, as the machine will be idle 98% of the time anyways.
[21:07] <KI7MT> donsd, is your referring to the man files, there normally in /usr/share/man
[21:07] <CFHowlett> xr600   ask @ #ubuntu-server
[21:07] <KI7MT> in a terminal just type man vim
[21:08] <xr600> KI7MT: ThX :)
[21:08] <ssta> yeah, the vim manpage isn't going to tell you how to use vim really.  Try running vimtutor
[21:08] <donsd> KI7MT, No. Vim has lots of *.txt files that serve as help files.
[21:09] <minixvbox> donsd: i'm simple, i stick to nano
[21:09] <shaneo> hey guys i encrypted my HDD on install is there a way to unencrypt ?
[21:10] <donsd> minixvbox, Ha ha.  You are smart. Notepad is my style.
[21:10] <CFHowlett> shaneo   what encryption tool did you use?
[21:10] <shaneo> whatever ubuntu would use during installation
[21:10] <shaneo> i check the box when entering name and user name and what not
[21:10] <shaneo> *checked
[21:10] <CFHowlett> shaneo   ecryptfs - so you still have the password, right?
[21:10] <ssta> donsd: I think the only thing there is in ubuntu (that I know of) is the html help in the vim-doc package.  Install vim-doc then look in /usr/share/doc/vim-doc/html
[21:11] <shaneo> i used my user pass
[21:11] <minixvbox> donsd: i once used mousepad to code a game in python3, that was fun ~5k loc
[21:12] <KI7MT> donsd, idk then, I use online docs or man files, not familiar with .txt help files
[21:12] <Danielino> !list
[21:12] <shaneo> CFHowlett, when it asked to enter i entered my sys pass so yes i do
[21:12] <Danielino> list
[21:12] <shaneo> unless it wants a hash of my pass or something than no
[21:13] <CFHowlett> shaneo   so you still have access to the drive, you just want to unencrypt?
[21:13] <shaneo> yes
[21:13] <Danielino> !list
[21:13] <webor> http://codepad.org/VSSM43Bi any hints would be very appreciated
[21:13] <theshadow> Is there a way to disable the guest logon/session?
[21:14] <santoshfamily> please suggest some video converter !
[21:15] <CFHowlett> shaneo  think this is it... http://paste.ubuntu.com/870512/
[21:15] <davide> !list
[21:15] <austneal> I'm having a problem with DNS when connecting to an openVPN server. http://pastebin.com/dyu0SZrc How do I resolve this?
[21:15] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:15] <ssta> theshadow: you can disable it in lightdm.conf.  Set allow-guest to false then restart lightdm (rebooting is probably the easiest way)
[21:15] <shaneo> thanks CFHowlett as always you are a great help
[21:15] <santoshfamily> convert a video !
[21:15] <CFHowlett> shaneo   check in with #ubuntu-server as well.
[21:15] <shaneo> ok
[21:16] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ffmpeg
[21:16] <santoshfamily> but i donot how to run it !
[21:17] <austneal> I'm having a problem with DNS when connecting to an openVPN server. http://pastebin.com/dyu0SZrc How do I resolve this?
[21:17] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html
[21:17] <ben_p> hi, i tried copying my /etc/apt/sources.list file to my new computer, but there are still many pkgs that aptitude search cannot find on my new computer.  is there another file that determines where aptitude search locates packagesf rom besides sources.list?
[21:18] <messinese90> ciao a tutti
[21:18] <CFHowlett> ben_p   if those packages don't appear in your sources.list they can only manually installed debs ...
[21:18] <messinese90> !list
[21:18] <CFHowlett> !it|messinese90
[21:18] <KI7MT> santoshfamily, http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html  there's allot to read there, but look for the examples, also seach online for ffmpeg convert.
[21:19] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   basic ffmpeg format is ffmpeg -i inputvideo.avi outputvideo.mpg
[21:19] <ben_p> CFHowlett: i see, is there any way to transfer these manually installed debs from my old computer to my new one without individually installing each one?
[21:20] <CFHowlett> ben_p  transfer?  no.  Install?  sure.  sudo dpgk -i inputfile.deb
[21:20] <santoshfamily> bro it is going to be harashment for me !
[21:21] <ben_p> CFHowlett: i see.  is there a place on my old computer where i can get a list of all the deb files i need to install?  i'm trying to mmove my entire system to a new computer.
[21:21] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily  yeah, learning how to do new things is harsh...
[21:21] <CFHowlett> ben_p  you shouldn't need to install deb files ...
[21:22] <santoshfamily> does it require address for the file !
[21:23] <CFHowlett> ben_p   rephrase: the default installation and repos should suffice for a basic ubuntu installation.  Beyond that you can customize with manually installed .debs or ppa's.  What do you think you don't have.
[21:23] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   asking again.  What SPECIFICALLY are you trying to do?
[21:24] <santoshfamily> i am asking does it require address of video !
[21:24] <KI7MT> santoshfamily, Here's a GUI for it with many built in pre-config settings: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sinthgunt-an-easy-to-use-gui-for-ffmpeg.html
[21:25] <ben_p> CFHowlett: i think i'm missing something.  i'm trying to move all my installed pkgs to a new computer.  so i downloaded all my pkgs from my old comp with dpkg --get-selections > pkglist, then i executed sudo aptitude update && cat pkglist | xargs sudo aptitude install -y but it's telling me it can't find a bunch of pacakges on my new computer
[21:26] <CFHowlett> ben_p   what packages does it not see?  .debs?  or can't find the sources?  Feel free to paste ...
[21:26] <santoshfamily> ffmpeg: command not found
[21:27] <ben_p> CFHowlett: here's an excerpt of the errors http://pastebin.com/tS0fkJ3C .  the weird thing is i can find all these packages on my old computer using aptitude search but not my new comp
[21:27] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   look in software sources.  install winff and ffmpeg
[21:27] <ben_p> i've already copied my /etc/apt/sources.list file over to ensure that's the same on both machines
[21:28] <babaduiudubi> ciao
[21:28] <babaduiudubi> !list
[21:28] <Fire> ben_p: did you update?
[21:28] <donsd> For anyone interested: Vim help files are in /usr/share/vim/vim73/doc
[21:28] <ben_p> i did.  i ran both sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:29] <CFHowlett> ben_p   repos enabled?
[21:29] <ben_p> CFHowlett: sorry, is that a setting i need to change?
 winff can convert but by terminal  can i convert all the format ?
[21:30] <CFHowlett> ben_p   IOW update manager or synaptic settings: enable all the repositories
[21:30] <ben_p> this is a copy of my sources.list file if that gives any clues: http://pastebin.com/D0CBCf9i
[21:30] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   winff is the gui frontend for ffmpeg.  ffmpeg can also be used from the terminal
[21:31] <chown_> guys is there a way to built a VM of an existing windows installation from anotehr Disk? so i could boot it into some vmplayer inside ubuntu?
[21:31] <linxeh> chown_: vmware let you do that with their migration tool I believe (though I think you need to do it by running windows and installing their migration tool)
[21:31] <santoshfamily> does they are both dependent ?
[21:32] <CFHowlett> ben_p   enable backports and partner
[21:32] <linxeh> chown_: you can get that free; once you've done that you can easily convert to other formats. There are likely other more direct ways if you want to use virtualbox or kvm etc
[21:32] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ffmpeg will run without ffwin
[21:32] <CFHowlett> *winff*
[21:32] <santoshfamily> This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).
[21:33] <santoshfamily> /home/santoshfamily/Videos/Adele%20-%20Rolling%20In%20The%20Deep.mp4: No such file or directory
[21:33] <DIOGYK> hello people, I have a small problem, can I set my ubuntu in a way that thumbnail cache is never cleaned, or manually cleaned, right now I think it's set on 180 days, as I saw on "ubuntu tweak" software, so is there any way?
[21:33] <chown_> Line_: ok, ill search for it. ty btw, i was finding old results on google
[21:33] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ffmpeg is still actively developed
[21:33] <santoshfamily> then what was that !
[21:33] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   IDK!
[21:35] <santoshfamily> what !
[21:35] <KI7MT> chown_, check into VMware Converter I think that will do what you looking for, although it's VMware not Virtualbox
[21:35] <ben_p> CFHowlett: hm, i went into software sources and enabled all main/universe/restricted/multiverse repositoreis.  i also went to the 'other software' tab and enabled all those repositories, but i'm still getting the same errors.
[21:35] <CFHowlett> ben_p   wait one ...
[21:35] <magpii> trying to install ubuntu 10.04 from a flsh drive but not having any luck any ideas?
[21:36] <magpii> used unetbootin to install the iso image to the flash usb pen and it will not boot
[21:36] <KI7MT> chown_, I found a how to for VirtualBox also: http://www.sysprobs.com/physical-virtual-virtualbox-virtualbox-p2v
[21:36] <CFHowlett> ben_p  rebuild your list with this and compare to what you have at present ... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[21:36] <Fire> magpii: does your motherboard allow  booting from flashdrive?
[21:37] <ben_p> ok
[21:37] <magpii> yes, boot option for usb has been enabled
[21:37] <magpii> it recognizes the drive, attempts to boot from it, then tells me no gui configuration found
[21:37] <WeedMaster> check out my weed grow video stealth grow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pB5aEreSXc also check out the thread on http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-marijuana-growing/1008762-my-led-grow-test.html and learn how to grow
[21:37] <ben_p> CFHowlett: i'm getting an error when trying to access that URL "XML Parsing Error: undefined entity"
[21:37] <magpii> i have done the same thing with both 32 and 64 bit from ubuntu main site
[21:37] <CFHowlett> WeedMaster   elsehwere, wrong channel, no spamming
[21:38] <ben_p> CFHowlett: oops, i take that back
[21:38] <minixvbox> WeedMaster: no adverts
[21:38] <magpii> managed to install 11.10 2 days ago through same method with no issue
[21:38] <WeedMaster> its not its my grow
[21:38] <WeedMaster> check out my weed grow video stealth grow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pB5aEreSXc also check out the thread on http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-marijuana-growing/1008762-my-led-grow-test.html and learn how to grow
[21:38] <Chipzzz> speaking of virtualbox, is anyone running it and are its ubuntu kernel drivers stable?
[21:38] <magpii> trying to go back to 10.04 due to user issues
[21:38] <minixvbox> WeedMaster: stop it
[21:39] <danileigh79> off-topic | WeedMaster
[21:39] <danileigh79> !off-topic | WeedMaster
[21:39] <ben_p> CFHowlett: should i enable all the 3rd party repos as well?
[21:39] <CFHowlett> ben_p   can't hurt
[21:39] <KI7MT> Chipzzz, I use the install from the VirtualBox site, they have pre-built Ubuntu binary's. They work, I use the in Ubuntu ISO testing.
[21:39] <megaera> HELLO
[21:39] <santoshfamily> http://libav.org/avconv.html
[21:39] <CFHowlett> !caps|megaera
[21:41] <DIOGYK> anyone? " hello people, I have a small problem, can I set my ubuntu in a way that thumbnail cache is never cleaned, or manually cleaned, right now I think it's set on 180 days, as I saw on "ubuntu tweak" software, so is there any way?"
[21:41] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   I know nothing about libav.  I use ffmpeg - it does video conversion quite well.  Sorry I can't advise you beyond that.
[21:42] <Chipzzz> Thanks KI7MT. I ran Vbox a lot a couple of years ago but the kernel drivers seemed to destabilize my system, so I had to stop... The system turned out to have other problems & I never did find out if Vbox was contributing to them.
[21:42] <santoshfamily> if u r using ffmpeg than why i cannot ?
[21:43] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   Did you install ffmpeg?
[21:43] <santoshfamily> ya bro including winff !
[21:43] <minixvbox> santoshfamily: man ffmpeg
[21:44] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   maybe we're not quite communicating.  ffmpeg is for converting videos that you have already saved somewhere.  NOT capturing or converting streaming video...
[21:44] <KI7MT> Chipzzz, I've been using  Vbox, on Ubuntu installs, since, 9.04 or thee about, and it's working well now with Vbox ersion 4 on a 10.04 Ubuntu Host OS.
[21:44] <CFHowlett> ben_p   fixed?  In progress?  Thinking?
[21:45] <Fire> magpii: see if this post helps you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487937&highlight=default+ui+configuration&page=4
[21:45] <magpii> ok thanks
[21:45] <santoshfamily> what do u mean that !
[21:45] <guntbert> !nickspam | raj aaGp schredder
[21:45] <megaera> try using vmware player.  it has better usb support as well
[21:46] <Danielino> buonasera
[21:46] <Danielino> !list
[21:46] <mintman> U know using virtual box and not having enough free hard drive space on ur drive causes issues!
[21:46] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   I'm slow.  In sequence answer these questions.  I'll help you see if ffmpeg is the solution you want.  (1)  Do you have a saved video you want to convert?
[21:47] <Danielino> !list
[21:47] <santoshfamily> ya
[21:47] <mintman> !ls
[21:47] <elijah> Is there an app to speed up the mouse based on momentum? I have a 3 screen setup and it would be nice to traverse all three screens with a small mouse foot print.
[21:48] <KI7MT> mintman, that would be in issue for any VM player. I have a 500GB drive that houses both the ISO's and the virtual machines, and it runs smooth here.
[21:48] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   what format is the video now?  .mov .avi .mpeg  ...
[21:48] <santoshfamily> .mp4
[21:48] <Danielino> !list
[21:48] <KI7MT> Im not saying one is better or worse than the other, only that Vbox is working well for my purposes.
[21:48] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   what format do you want to convert your .mp4 video to?
[21:48] <santoshfamily> .avi
[21:48] <Danielino> !bot
[21:49]  * minixvbox admires CFHowlett's patience
[21:49] <megaera> i agree.  vbox is also lightweight
[21:49] <minixvbox> !cookie | CFHowlett
[21:49] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   the basic terminal command to do that would be ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 outputvideo.avi
[21:50] <ben_p> CFHowlett: hi, still getting the same errors.  my current sources.list file is here: http://pastebin.com/DZgnegdC.  i basically enabled all the repositories available at the url you referred me
[21:51] <CFHowlett> ben_p   quick fix: download the .debs, dpkg -i each.deb
[21:51] <Lukas1321> Hello. May someone help me with my 12.04beta?
[21:51] <CFHowlett> ben_p   not what you wanted to hear, I know -
[21:51] <CFHowlett> !precise|lukkas1321
[21:51] <Chipzzz> KI7MT: I liked Vbox a lot, too, until it started acting up... Thank you all for the input, though... I think I'll give Vbox another try
[21:52] <ben_p> CFHowlett: ok, that's fine. but, how do i know the .deb file name i should be looking for?  for example, for the following error 'Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libva-x11-1"' am i looking for libva-x11-1.deb?
[21:52] <Lukas1321> I was upgrading from 11.10stable to 12.04beta and it deleted my /etc/X11/xorg.conf folder
[21:52] <KI7MT> Chipzzz, follow the install how too on the VirtualBox site and you should be good. You'll need qt4 and dmks installed.
[21:52] <zykotick9> Lukas1321: reask in #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <Lukas1321> Okay. Thank you
[21:52] <Chipzzz> KI7MT: Ok, thanks again
 same error !
[21:53] <CFHowlett> ben_p   apt-cache policy package.name
[21:53] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   paste the error please.
[21:53] <CFHowlett> !paste|santoshfamily
[21:53] <ben_p> CFHowlett: ok, thank you very much for your help!
[21:53] <CFHowlett> ben_p   have fun / be safe
[21:53] <KI7MT> Chipzzz, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idp5525168  there's the linux install after download.
[21:54] <santoshfamily> same as before i had pasted !
[21:54] <Chipzzz> ...just one last thing... has anyone run a Vbox client on a thumb drive and if so, is it impractically slow?
[21:54] <CFHowlett> ben_p   also packagesearch ubuntu
[21:54] <KI7MT> I forgot, you also need libsdl install too.
[21:55] <lechevalier> je reste à ubuntu 10.10
[21:55] <CFHowlett> !fr|lechevalier
[21:55] <santoshfamily> This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).
[21:55] <santoshfamily> /home/santoshfamily/Videos/Adele: No such file or directory
[21:55] <megaera> vbox can be run on 8gb pendrives.  its kinda slow though. not recommended
[21:56] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   PASTE the command sequence, i.e. your input and the output
[21:56] <Auser1234> Hi guys, I need help. I'm on a windows machine ssh into a unix server through putty, I want to cp a file I see on the server to my local machine. What is the exact command?
[21:57] <Chipzzz> Thanks again, everyone, for the Vbox info... I'll try putting a guest on a thumb drive when I get some time & let you know how it goes
[21:58] <minixvbox> !scp | Auser1234
[21:58] <nibbler> Auser1234, install an scp client (pscp for comandline, winscp for gui)
 i had pasted it in pastbin !
[21:58] <KI7MT> Auser1234, use SCP.:   scp examplefile yourusername@yourserver:/home/yourusername/
[21:58] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870592/
[21:58] <Auser1234> KI7MT: how do  I fine yourusername@yourserver?
[21:59] <Chipzzz> Oh, sorry megaera, I didn't see your comment... I was worried it might be too slow (the do about 1Gb/Min)... Guess I'll have to get a bigger hard drive for the machine I want to do this on first, then
[21:59] <minixvbox> Auser1234: loginname@ipaddress
[22:00] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: it's the spaces in the filename causing the file not found.
[22:00] <KI7MT> well: yourusername = the user you used to log in with SSH, yourserver = IP address of the server you used to log in with putty
[22:00] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ffmpeg -i /home/santoshfamily/Videos/'
[22:01] <CFHowlett> 'Adele Rolling In The Deep'.mp4
[22:01] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: i'd suggest you use TAB completion instead
[22:01] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   or rename to Adele.mp4
[22:02] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   thanks.  That didn't register with me until you pointed it out...
[22:02] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: team effort ;)
[22:03] <santoshfamily> what  is TAB completion ?
[22:03] <zykotick9> !tab
[22:04] <santoshfamily> how to do it ?
[22:04] <megaera> I'm running 5 vboxes on my backtrack machine for pentesting. It's very cool cuz its very lightweight in linux box and more responsive. Try getting bigger hdd/ssd
[22:04] <lasko> I have a server Ubuntu 10.04 and I appear to be having some NIC issues. If I plug my WAN link into my laptop I get 70Mbps download and 70Mbps upload, but when I plug it into my ubuntu server I seem to only be getting 20Mbps download and 17Mbps upload. The card is set for no autonegotiation, 100Mb/s, Duplex Full. Any ideas?
[22:05] <luana> ciaoooo
[22:05] <CFHowlett> !it|luana
[22:06] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   rename the .mp4 file to Adele.mp4
[22:06] <santoshfamily> let me try
[22:08] <Chipzzz> megaera: Yeah, that's what I plan... Last time I ran it, the machine had a comfy terrabyte which I now use as an external drive for my laptops, one of which has enough hard disk space, and the other of which has enough RAM... lol... As you suggest, I'm planning a bigger hard disk for the one with enough RAM :-)
[22:08] <santoshfamily> Incompatible sample format 's16' for codec 'ac3', auto-selecting format 'flt'
[22:08] <santoshfamily> [ac3 @ 0x920e960] invalid bit rate
[22:08] <fgera> I give up . I'm going back do windows xp. I'll be back when I have new hardware
[22:08] <fgera> thank you all
[22:09] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   wait it won't even rename??
[22:09] <mosx1> :anyone recommend an FTP server to me ?
[22:09] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: taht isn't a rename error, it's an encoding error
[22:09] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   ah!
[22:10] <Chipzzz> fgera: sorry to see you go... good luck
[22:10] <blacktulip> mosx1: vsftpd?
[22:10] <rhin01> does anyone know how to get rid of the irritating message "click to view appointments and tasks" which keeps obscuring the clock/calendar in taskbar applet (evolution I think) -- ubuntu 10.04
[22:10] <santoshfamily> but i had renamed and than after compilation this error occured
[22:10] <CFHowlett> rhin01   preferences>startup programs
[22:10] <fgera> Chipzzz, thanks.
[22:11] <fgera> Chipzzz, all the best
[22:11] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   so no .avi file?
[22:11] <rhin01> and what -- disable evolution CFHowlett?
[22:11] <santoshfamily> what !
[22:11] <CFHowlett> rhin01   yep....turn that puppy off!
[22:11] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   did you get an .avi file?
[22:12] <rhin01> has bugged me for a long time that CFHowlett if solved ty very much
[22:12] <CFHowlett> rhin01   have fun / be safe
[22:12] <santoshfamily> ya but not streaming/playing !
[22:13] <happyface> anyone know of a more updated chromium ppa? the launchpad daily one hasn't been updated since Jan
[22:14] <santoshfamily> streams  contains no data !
[22:14] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ffmpeg is choking on converting the audio portion of the .mp4 to .avi.  No fix or workaround that I know of.
[22:14] <CFHowlett> *sorry*
[22:15] <santoshfamily> what there must be any solution plz help this bro !
[22:16] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   run and paste   ffmpeg -i adele.mp4
[22:17] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: CFHowlett the ffmpeg in the default repo doesn't support AAC (default audio in MP4 files) [though i though it was only to create mp4s, but perhaps reading is an issue as well].  Using an ffmpeg from other source (PPA perhaps) might give different results.
[22:17] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   yeah, I see some postings on this.  Seeking a "force" option ...
[22:18] <pooltable> looking for a good audio mixer equalizer?
[22:18] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: the ffmpeg from medibuntu shouldn't have that issue
[22:18] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   versus the software center version you mean?
[22:18] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: ya
[22:18] <Pricey> WUBI with the latest version of Ubuntu installed... I'm getting some horrific performance degredation under any kind of reasonable disk usage... (e.g. dd'ing a sd card) Is that normal? I'd guess its just because of the whole ntfs thing and should do a proper install.
[22:19] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   we'll try.  thanks for the hint.
[22:19] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: if it doesn't work/help - sorry to lead you astray (again, i though it was an issue with creating MP4s with AAC, not reading)
[22:19] <CFHowlett> Pricey   wubi is for TRYING ubuntu not long-term use.
[22:20] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   fair enough ...
[22:20] <ehhh> how to set 1920x1080 resolution? I have installed nvidia driver...
[22:21] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: actually, perhaps avi doesn't understand m3u?  as that's what was mentioned in the error output?
[22:21] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: avi is a horrible container
[22:21] <santoshfamily> what both are  u talking about i am not able to understand !
[22:21] <Pricey> CFHowlett: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer doesn't really give that impression.
[22:21] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   agreed.
[22:21] <godofwar> ehhh: open Display
[22:22] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: not m3u, ac3 sorry
[22:22] <ehhh> godofwar: but there is max 1360x768
[22:22] <pooltable> looking for a good audio mixer equalizer?
[22:22] <santoshfamily> should i try in other format !
[22:22] <KI7MT> Pricey, the only way to get Native install performance,  is as such, a native install. Even VM's are not close to Native install performance.
[22:23] <zykotick9> KI7MT: you mean VMs like VirtualBox or VMWare, VMs like xen or kvm are VERY close to native.
[22:23] <CFHowlett> Pricey   first paragraph  http://wubi.sourceforge.net/
[22:23] <godofwar> ehhh: did you restart your machine after driver installation
[22:23] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   yes try a different output format...
[22:23] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   FIRST though
[22:23] <santoshfamily> suggest than 1
[22:23] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   paste up the output from ffmpeg -i
[22:24] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: try mkv instead of avi for testing
[22:24] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   why can't you keep .mp4?
[22:24] <KI7MT> I've not used xen, kvm is ok, but still not native performance, then again, depends on what your using it for I suppose. Any heavy lifting is going to suffer somehere.
[22:24] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: excellent question ;)
[22:24] <ehhh> godofwar: yes, 234 times
[22:25] <Pricey> KI7MT: CFHowlett 'meh'
[22:25] <godofwar> ehhh: just trying to help, if you had made your nvidia driver active already, try making it inactive and then active again.
[22:26] <CFHowlett> Pricey   :)  Dual boot in your future?
[22:26] <santoshfamily> bro it is working in mkv  and  bcoz i want learn all this which are require in daily life
[22:26] <Pricey> CFHowlett: Ideally I'd like to single boot but its a work laptop.
[22:26] <KI7MT> Just take the plunge, install it native :-)
[22:27] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: so the issue is with your chosen container (AVI) then...
[22:27] <CFHowlett> Pricey   install to USB and boot that when you need.
[22:28] <santoshfamily> one think i had used avconv !
[22:28] <zykotick9> santoshfamily: FYI if you encode the audio (with ffmpeg) to a different format, you could probably use AVI
[22:28] <jimmy_birer> join #boobies
[22:29] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: what are you helping santoshfamily to do? If it simply re-encoding mmp4 to avi then I would simply suggest using ffmpeg
[22:29] <zykotick9> hydrox24: lol - that's what they're using ;)
[22:29] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   tried.ffmpeg choked on ac3
[22:29] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   try   ffmpeg -i video_origine.avi -ab 56 -ar 44100 -b 200 -r 15 -s 320x240 -f flv video_finale.flv
[22:29] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: OK, so doing "ffmpeg -i input.mp4  output.avi" didn't work!
[22:30] <zykotick9> hydrox24: for avi no, for mkv yes
[22:31] <hydrox24> can someone direct me to the error that ffmpeg spits out (the pastebin?)
[22:31] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   what was the pastebin from the last error message??
[22:32] <Fire> CFHowlett;  http://paste.ubuntu.com/870592/
http://paste.ubuntu.com/870592/
[22:32] <hydrox24> Fire: thanks guys
[22:32] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   no the one that referenced ac3 error
[22:33] <mintman> hello Used some online manual to partition my ubuntu drive and deleted windows now I have 57.76 gigs free. I also used ext4 from the manual can I use the unformatted portion?
[22:33] <CFHowlett> mintman   use.  boot a live cd and use gparted
[22:33] <hydrox24> ffmpeg shouldn't be telling you that it is not developed anymore...
[22:34] <santoshfamily> Incompatible sample format 's16' for codec 'ac3', auto-selecting format 'flt' [ac3 @ 0x920e960] invalid bit rate
[22:34] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   that's not ffmpeg error / too  many spaces
[22:34] <mintman> CFHowlett: will pastebin
[22:34] <mintman> CFHowlett: http://oi43.tinypic.com/zsu069.jpg
[22:34] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   paste it
[22:34] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: oh, lol that makes more sense
[22:34] <mohamedtouj> how to run bifrost on ubuntu or please give me a name for an other application like bifrost for
[22:34] <mohamedtouj> UBUNTU
[22:35] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: can you run "ffmpeg -i input.mp4 output.avi" and pastebin the output for us?
[22:35] <santoshfamily> ok i am going to do it for all of u !
[22:36] <wingie> do you think ubuntu on android could replace the computers for a user?
[22:36] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   http://paste.ubuntu.com/870636/
[22:36] <mintman> CFHowlett: what do I need to do to add it to my current drive?
[22:37] <KI7MT> mintman, You don't need two swap spaces, looks like you have 2x linux distro's installed are you wanting to keep windows also?
[22:37] <Shojo> no, only one linux, had windows, deleted it
[22:38] <Shojo> he was asking for me
[22:38] <hydrox24> wingie: this is a channel for ubuntu *help* for what you want, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:38] <mintman> deleted windows , only one linux
[22:38] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870639/
[22:38] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: thanks, will look now
[22:38] <santoshfamily> my pleasure !
[22:39] <pooltable> equalizer a good one ?
[22:39] <pooltable> equalizer a good one ?
[22:39] <mintman> KI7MT: NO one linux partition first time install and deleted windows
[22:39] <wingie> hydrox24: ok thanks for the info
[22:39] <KI7MT> mintman, me personally, I'd use the live CD and do a fresh install and make just 3x partitions to simplify life :-)
[22:39] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   what version of ubuntu do you have?
[22:40] <santoshfamily> 11.10
[22:41] <mintman> KI7MT: Hey worried about security I want it just to be one install it didn't turn out quite right was following a manual that said it would secure my linux distro better
[22:41] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   hydrox24 definitely he's got  a different ffmpeg than I do ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/870643/
[22:41] <dodgerdude> hi, is there a channel for noobs? I'd like to learn irssi, but this is the wrong place
[22:41] <wingie> where can i know what the new features will be on the coming version?
[22:42] <CFHowlett> dodgerdude   try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <dodgerdude> great, thanks!
[22:42] <CFHowlett> !precise|wingie
[22:42] <zykotick9> !info ffmpeg
[22:42] <liam__> how do i change the default terminal to guake in ubuntu 11.10
[22:42] <mintman> KI7MT: You still see that as the best option do a new install
[22:42] <KI7MT> mintman, Linux/Unix is very secure compare to windows. Do you have a Ubuntu LiveCD ? If so, boot it up, and say use the entire disk.
[22:43] <donsd> dodgerdude, Good question. How does everyone here find the best server/channel for given topic?
[22:43] <CFHowlett> liam__   see   http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-terminal-emulator-on-ubuntu-linux/
[22:43] <mintman> KI7MT: roger understand :)
[22:43] <hydrox24> dodgerdude: I would also suggest the ubuntu-beginners channel
[22:44] <KI7MT> mintman, Well you have 2 swap's, there not needed, that 100m for ntfs is not needed, so having 9 partitions for a basic 1 distro system install is way over complicated, unless you ahve specific needs for it.
[22:44] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: from the 0.8-4:0.8-1u1~ppa2 in santoshfamily's version, i'm assuming it's coming from some PPA... hummm?
[22:44] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   let's see shall we?
[22:45] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   you installed ffmpeg just today: how did you do it?  software center?  terminal?
[22:45] <wingie> !precise|wingie
[22:45] <Jazo> i need help with eggdrop ? can anybody help pls?
[22:45] <CFHowlett> !ask|jazo
[22:45] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: "apt-cache policy ffmpeg" would tell us.  santoshfamily
[22:45] <wingie> damn so many different channels for ubuntu
[22:46] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: that ffmpeg output looks strange to me. I compiled ffmpeg with all the codecs and my output is mroe verbose. I think we need to know how santoshfamily installed ffmpeg
 by spm  , winff included ffmpeg
[22:46] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   I think I see a conflict.  let's purge and reinstall.  lemme know when ready ...
[22:47] <santoshfamily> ok as u wise
[22:47] <donsd> join #ubuntu-beginners
[22:47] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: agreed, seems like a good idea to me
[22:47] <hydrox24> donsd: try "/join #ubuntu-beginners"
[22:47] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   sudo apt-get purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get purge ffwin
[22:47] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   sudo apt-get purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get purge winff
[22:48] <doug_f> Does ubuntu trim SWAP if placed on an SSD?
[22:48] <hydrox24> doug_f: not autoomatically I don't think, but it's easy to configure
[22:48] <donsd> hydrox24, Right. Thanks.
[22:49] <doug_f> hydrox24, is there a how too you can point me to?
[22:49] <santoshfamily> ya done the both !
[22:49] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[22:50] <CFHowlett> *copy & paste* to terminal
[22:50] <KI7MT> He's on 11.10 why he need dist-upg ?
[22:50] <CFHowlett> KI7MT   force of habit ...
[22:50] <KI7MT> :-)
[22:50] <hydrox24> KI7MT: dist-upg doesn't actually upgrade the distro does it?
[22:51] <santoshfamily> ya to terminal but many things are ign
[22:51] <KI7MT> Yeah, if he was on 11.04 it would
[22:51] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   upgrades to new packages
[22:51] <wolfmitchell> Got the Dialog package working, finally.
[22:51] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: yeh, that's what I thought.. thanks for confirming it
[22:51] <donsd> Does apt and synaptic index off of each other? (coordinate installs)
[22:52] <pooltable> help how to add a image to xcfe bottom thing i am add pulse euqalarer but no icon how do i add an icon??
[22:52] <FireStorms> I've recently installed AMP and I've noticed a lot files are fragmented around the system. There's different dirs for PHP setting, Apache settings, Document etc, etc,. Is there something I can do to find the files quicker without memorising paths?
[22:52] <itaylor57> donsd, synaptic is just a gui front end to apt
[22:52] <hydrox24> donsd: basically, I am pretty sure synaptic uses apt as a back-end
[22:53] <CFHowlett> donsd   software center is the preferred provider now ...
[22:53] <santoshfamily> it is resolving adobe-flashplugin_11.1.102.63.orig.tar.gz
[22:53] <donsd> itaylor57, hydrox24 Thanks. I use Synaptic, but occasionally have to use apt-get. Hope everything is okay.
[22:54] <itaylor57> donsd, not a probleim i switch between them often, you just can't run both at oncw
[22:54] <Steevca> Is there a system req. for ubuntu 12.04?
[22:54] <CFHowlett> !precise|Steevca
[22:54] <hydrox24> donsd: that should work fine.
[22:54] <donsd> CFHowlett, Is Software Center tied in with apt?
[22:54] <CFHowlett> donsd   yes.
[22:54] <pooltable> ok got it
[22:55] <CFHowlett> donsd   SC is the gui to apt
[22:56] <KI7MT> yeah it's the same as the package manager, just organized differently. they both use apt on the back end.
[22:56] <hydrox24> donsd: yes, you can install a program with apt and remove it with sofware center or vice-versa
[22:56] <KI7MT> Not to be confused with the addition of dpkg :-)
[22:56] <MsTeshi> Bonsoir tout le monde
[22:56] <donsd> CFHowlett, Maybe that's why I don't see Synaptic any more.
[22:57] <CFHowlett> donsd   exactomundo!
[22:57] <MsTeshi> je n'arrive pas à trouver un bon logiciel pour faire du montage vidéo
[22:57] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: how you going?
[22:57] <CFHowlett> !fr|MsTeshi
[22:57] <MsTeshi> ok thx
[22:57] <santoshfamily> upgrade is going on !
[22:57] <donsd> Great group of helpers here!
[22:58] <hydrox24> donsd: thanks.
[22:58]  * CFHowlett wonders about deferred maintenance ...
[23:00] <santoshfamily> its completed !
[23:01] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   reboot - come back
[23:02] <santoshfamily> ok
[23:04] <KI7MT> wow, got quiet in here all of a sudden :-)
[23:04] <CFHowlett> 99% problems SOLVED!
[23:04] <Fire> dont jinx it
[23:04] <KI7MT> I rekon so :-)
[23:04] <Deemon> hey guys
[23:04] <Deemon> can i ask a dumb question
[23:04] <KI7MT> !ask
i am back after reboot !
[23:05] <Deemon> basically, i made a username called DolanMolan, and i logged out... and now when i try and log back in, my username is apparently taken
[23:05] <Deemon> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[23:05] <Deemon> is what i get
[23:05] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily  paste the output of ffmpeg -i
[23:05] <Deemon> and now im called Deemon
[23:06] <KI7MT> By logging in/out you mean to the channel not Ubuntu?
[23:06] <santoshfamily> sorry to say its again an error !
[23:06] <Deemon> yes channel
[23:07] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   paste ffmpeg -i
[23:07] <KI7MT> the channel masters will have to answer that one.
[23:08] <hydrox24> Deemon: check if there is an IRC client running in the background
[23:08] <Deemon> is it because i didnt close my IRC client properly?
[23:08] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870671/
[23:08] <Deemon> i only have 1 IRC client
[23:08] <Deemon> xchat
[23:08] <Deemon> and i just restarted, so only 1 instance of it is open
[23:08] <hydrox24> Deemon: sorry, can't think of a reason other than someone nicking your nick :)
[23:09] <Deemon> can i re-register?
[23:09] <Deemon> to my same email?
[23:10] <zykotick9> Deemon: try #freenode
[23:10] <Deemon> yeah i can go on freenode
[23:10] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   suspect you've got ppa's in your source list.  paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:11] <zykotick9> Deemon: i mean the #freenode channel, they can help with nick registration type issues
[23:11] <Deemon> oh i see
[23:12] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870675/
[23:12] <eweak> hi guys I installed Lubuntu on an old compaq and I can't get wifi working I have a BCM4306 Rev 03. is this the right place to ask this
[23:12] <pocata> I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it ?:)
[23:13] <wil_> #ubuntu
[23:13] <Fire> Should PPA packages be avoided?
[23:13] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: ppa's aren't included in the sources.list file!
[23:13] <shockingbehavur> Hi, I'm a newby at ubuntu....My current version is LTS. For some reason I have lost the sound menu on the top panel. Is there a script I can use to bring it up again. It's only happened when I upgraded Alsa to the latest version
[23:13] <zykotick9> Fire: if possible, yes.
[23:13] <wil_> how do you use floppy disks in ubuntu 11.10
[23:13] <Fire> thanks
[23:13] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   we purted.  we reinstalled.  where the heck is that ppa version coming from?
[23:13] <CFHowlett> *purged*
[23:14] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: "apt-cache policy ffmpeg" find out where it's coming from
[23:14] <wil_> I plug in my usb floppy drive it is not recognized
[23:14] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   paste output apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[23:15] <hydrox24> shockingbehavur: try right clicking on the bar up the top, then clickng "add to panel"
[23:15] <pocata> hi I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it???
[23:15] <hydrox24> shockingbehavur: after that choose "indicater applet" and click "add"
[23:15] <wil_> and when I click on the floppy file I need root privliges how do I get that
[23:16] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870676/
[23:16] <wil_> help
[23:16] <pocata> help pls
[23:16] <pocata> :(
[23:16] <shockingbehavur> thanks didn't know it is that easy...hydro
[23:16] <CFHowlett> zykotick9    hydrox24   I iz officially mystified.  that looks like a ppa to me but he's got no ppa's in his source.list
[23:17] <eweak> anybody can help me with bcm4306 rev 03 I can't get it work
[23:17] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: PPAs are listed in the /etc/apt/source.list.d directory, not the sources.list file
[23:17] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   learn something new everyday.... ty.
[23:18] <skinnymg1> hello guys having a little trouble getting handbrake to show up in the software center, should I go to their chat or can I get help in here
[23:18] <zykotick9> skinnymg1: Handbrake isn't in default repository, you need to add a PPA
[23:18] <iToast> hey
[23:18] <skinnymg1> i have it added still a no show though zykotick9
[23:18] <iToast> You guys, just wan'ted to give the great news.
[23:18] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   one more try  ls /etc/apt/source.list.d
[23:19] <iToast> Last night the people who helped me with bind9, I got it working perfectly!
[23:19] <leontopod> I want to su root
[23:19] <leontopod> How do I do so?
[23:19] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: doesn't he need to look uner /etc/apt/sourc.list.d dir?
[23:19] <iToast> leontopod, do sudo su root
[23:19] <CFHowlett> !root|leontopod
[23:19] <leontopod> I want my root account back!
[23:19] <iToast> leontopod, sudo su root.
[23:19] <santoshfamily> ls: cannot access /etc/apt/source.list.d: No such file or directory
[23:19] <leontopod> Who ever heard of a Unix without root!
[23:19] <leontopod> That is CRAZY!
[23:19] <leontopod> iToast, thanks
[23:20] <iToast> leontopod, LISTEN TO ME I SAID sudo su root >:O
[23:20] <leontopod> I heard you thanks
[23:20] <skinnymg1> santoshfamily, got to put sudo in front of that
[23:20] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   just wanted to see if anything is there.  Like mine - it's empty.
[23:20] <leontopod> on Slackware I do everything as root
[23:20] <pocata> hi I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it help me please
[23:20] <leontopod> the first thing I do when I open a terminal window is su root
[23:20] <iToast> leontopod, btw this isn't unix, its linux.
[23:20] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: is "sources"
[23:20] <leontopod> linux is a unix-like operating system
[23:20] <leontopod> *nix
[23:20] <iToast> Its not unix directly.
[23:21] <santoshfamily> what !
[23:21] <iToast> if you wan't unix help there is #unix.
[23:21] <leontopod> is freebsd unix?
[23:21] <iToast> yes
[23:21] <helpanoob> do they have a empathy client for windows
[23:21] <leontopod> is mac os x unix?
[23:21] <iToast> leontopod, yes
[23:21] <leontopod> and linux is not unix?
[23:21] <iToast> Linux is not directly unix.
[23:21] <leontopod> ok
[23:21] <iToast> Linux is a *nix operating system.
[23:21] <skinnymg1> santoshfamily, sudo ls /etc/apt/source.list.d
[23:22] <iToast> Its like unix, but not a pain in the @$$ :p
[23:22] <skinnymg1> it's a root directory it's not going to show unless you sudo it
[23:22] <Walther> !ot
[23:22] <Fire> Are there any community/ Ubuntu recommended safe sites for PPA's
[23:22] <linxeh> iToast: linux is certainly a PITA
[23:22] <santoshfamily> ls: cannot access /etc/apt/source.list.d: No such file or directory
[23:22] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   take this question to #ffmpeg / the experts.   Sorry, but I can't see why it's not working...
[23:22] <hydrox24> skinnymg1: it *sources*.list.d
[23:22] <iToast> linxeh, PITA?
[23:22] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: *sourcse*
[23:22] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: *sources*
[23:22] <linxeh> iToast: Pain In The ...
[23:22] <skinnymg1> etc is a root directory
[23:22] <iToast> linxeh, then your doing it wrong.
[23:23] <hydrox24> linxeh: It *can* be a pain in the ass...
[23:23] <iToast> My Linux box is easy to maintain. Its as simple as press the power button and forget it exists.
[23:23] <Walther> !ot Ahem.
[23:23] <linxeh> iToast: it can be yes.
[23:23] <Fire> santoshfamilt try sources.list.d the S was missing
[23:23] <skinnymg1> oh yeah I mispelled it
[23:24] <iToast> linxeh when has ubuntu been a pain in the ass or any linux distro other then centos.
[23:24] <skinnymg1> ok got ya sorry hydrox24
[23:24] <linxeh> anyway, as the man says, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:24] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   one last attempt  sudo apt-get purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get install medibuntu && sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[23:24] <iToast> linxeh, i setup my server to be managed with landscape to autoinstall things, can i just disable that :)
[23:24] <hydrox24> CFHowlett: I think that is the way to go.
[23:24] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: until that PPA is removed, reinstall ffmpeg will most likely just keep installing that PPA version
[23:25] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   you with us??
[23:25] <pocata> CFHowlett>I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it
[23:25] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge
[23:25] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   thanks for taht...
[23:26] <helpanoob> do they have a empathy client for windows?
[23:26] <santoshfamily> http://paste.ubuntu.com/870685/
[23:26] <CFHowlett> pocata   I'm on 10.04 and have no ribbons experience.  Perhaps the channel can help???
[23:26] <Fire> CFHowlett,santoshfamily try sources.list.d the one S was missing
[23:26] <linxeh> iToast: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue this with me
[23:26] <linxeh> or PM
[23:26] <iToast> linxeh, im talking about landscape...
[23:26] <zykotick9> !medibuntu
[23:26] <linxeh> iToast: this is a support channel, not a "talk about" channel
[23:26] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:27] <iToast> linxeh, I know
[23:27] <computa_mike> Hi - Anyone know how to compile a KDE application for ubuntu?  I'm trying to compile kxstitch, and it's asking for kde-config....
[23:27] <iToast> I wan'ted support with landscape since i setup my server with it, how do i use landscape to maange it x)
[23:27] <KI7MT> CFHowlett, there's repos for mediabuntu
[23:27] <santoshfamily> google-chrome.list  google-chrome.list.save  n-muench-vlc-oneiric.list  n-muench-vlc-oneiric.list.save  opera.list
[23:27] <linxeh> then lets discuss my comments in #ubuntu-offtopic, or ask specific support questions here
[23:27] <iToast> ...
[23:27] <hydrox24> computa_mike: you'll need to install all the KDE dependencies
I'm 11.10
[23:28] <Walther> computa_mike: easiest way to do that would be installing kde-desktop
[23:28] <Fire> bingo
[23:28] <Walther> computa_mike: you should get all the dependencies that way
[23:28] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   I see nothing in your ppa that would cause the issue.  Sorry.  Suggest you ask in #ffmpeg
[23:28] <hydrox24> computa_mike: so just "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop"
[23:28] <CFHowlett> *sources* not ppa
[23:28] <Walther> i you have enough drive space to waste for that, that is
[23:28] <santoshfamily> but what to ask them ?
[23:28] <skinnymg1> santoshfamily, PM
[23:28] <computa_mike> Walther: cool - I'll try it...
[23:28] <Walther> santoshfamily: also, you could try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:28] <Walther> santoshfamily: sudo apt-get restricted-extras
[23:29] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   explain that you want to convert .mp4 to .avi.  They'll take it from there ...
[23:29] <Walther> !restricted-extras
[23:29] <KI7MT> He can try it this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[23:29] <Walther> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
 I am using 11.10 but with the interface of 10.4
[23:29] <CFHowlett> pocata   again, I don't have ANY experience with ribbons or 11.04.  Please direct your query to the channel.  Sorry.
[23:29] <hydrox24> santoshfamily: Go hear for an excellent sticky thread on compiling ffmpeg with lots of support for codecs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[23:30] <computa_mike> Walther: looks like kde-desktop isn't available...
[23:30] <pocata> ok
[23:30] <pfifo> !info kubuntu-desktop | computa_mike
[23:30] <Walther> computa_mike: kde-full might be what you're looking for
[23:30] <Walther> ahh
[23:31] <Walther> kubuntu-desktop it is
[23:31] <zykotick9> computa_mike: teh package is kubuntu-desktop, but that's not "really" going to solve your issue i don't think - if you're compiling you probably need the -dev packages, which aren't in the regular desktop metapackage
[23:31] <Walther> zykotick9: iirc, no
[23:31] <Walther> zykotick9: just having the compiling tools should be enough
[23:31] <computa_mike> Walther: ah - I was about to fire up aptitude to find it...
[23:31] <pocata> please help me I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it help me
[23:31] <santoshfamily> thanking  <CFHowlett> <hydrox24> and other who atleast work out on my problem  as much as they can !
[23:31] <Walther> unless specifically compiling kde internal stuff
[23:32] <CFHowlett> santoshfamily   good luck.  Hey also check the ubuntu forums for ubuntustudio and multimedia
[23:32] <ohs6ohQu> I installed kubuntu-desktop some time ago and now would like to remove it. apt-get autoremove removes only the meta package, though. Is there an easy / automatic way to remove everything installed by kubuntu-desktop that is not needed by other desktop environments?
[23:32] <pfifo> computa_mike, thats right if you want to compile a kde program, you need to install all of its dependencies' dev packages. apt-get's build-dep option might be of use
[23:33] <hydrox24> can anyone help with getting keyboard backlighing working? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11742062
[23:33] <zykotick9> ohs6ohQu: what do you want to replace KDE with?  (use instead i mean)
[23:34] <ohs6ohQu> zykotick9: xfce, already installed. i'd like to break as little as possible there. :)
[23:34] <zykotick9> !purexfce | ohs6ohQu
[23:34] <skinnymg1> ok so once again, can I get a little help with getting handbrake to show up in USC, i have already added the PPA and it still is not showing
[23:34] <ohs6ohQu> thanks
[23:34] <zykotick9> ohs6ohQu: careful! that pure removes Gnome as well by the looks of it!
[23:35] <computa_mike> pfifo: ok - I'll look into it
[23:36] <zykotick9> skinnymg1: after adding the PPA did you run "sudo apt-get update" then check software center?
[23:36] <pfifo> skinnymg1, why not just use the cli to install it?
[23:36] <zykotick9> skinnymg1: the GUI package is handbrake-gtk usually
[23:36] <skinnymg1> even then it doesn't find it
[23:37] <zykotick9> skinnymg1: from terminal try "apt-cache search handbrake" is it listed?
[23:37] <cog> how do i set my key layout to dvorak
[23:37] <pocata> I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it i`am gnome
[23:37] <pfifo> cog, during install it asks for your keyboard layout.
[23:38] <average_drifter> so I was using Ubuntu and then k-POW!
[23:38] <mintman> KI7MT: thanks again for ur help :)
[23:38] <cog> I tried w/o installing; i have it working now as you can see, much faster and more economical typing :)  Thanks though!  Health and happiness.
[23:38] <skinnymg1> zykotick9, thanks the update got it to show
[23:38] <KI7MT> mintman, you got it working then?
[23:38] <pfifo> cog, at runtime you can `setxkbmap dvorak`
[23:39] <hydrox24> cog: I wish I could use the dvorak keyboard layout, but it would confuse me far too much looking at a QWERTY layout.
[23:39] <pfifo> hydrox24, the point of learning dvorak is to NOT look at the keyboard
[23:40] <mintman> KI7MT: will play with it after I get more experience with linux mint. I had to load the wifi card manually last time so its not a top priority for me right now. :) thanks again
[23:40] <pocata> please help me :( pls
[23:40] <hydrox24> pfifo: yeah, I know, but my point remains
[23:41] <Walther> pocata: what's the problem
[23:41] <pocata> I have a problem when I start an application startirase but appears below the ribbon how to fix it i`am gnome
[23:42] <wylde> pocata: hold alt and click on the window and drag it, assuming you can see part of the window
[23:42] <hydrox24> pocata: click *anywhere* on the window while holding alt to drag it.
[23:43] <mintman> Got to love how linux mint and ubuntu are so close I learn so much here about linux mint :)
[23:43] <nannes> hay! Which is better, Xubuntu or Lubuntu for a old pc? (i'd like to know bad and good things of each one)
[23:44] <PPPPPPP> Is there really a big difference between gnome and xfce, as far as resource usage goes?
[23:44] <FireStorms> Anyone know the difference between sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart vs sudo service apache2 restart ?
[23:44] <skinnymg1> PPPPPPP, yes there is
[23:44] <CFHowlett> nannes   quite similar.  Install both and choose a preference.
[23:44] <zykotick9> nannes: lubuntu is lighter then xubuntu
[23:45] <PPPPPPP> does lubuntu use xfce as well?
[23:45] <zykotick9> lxde
[23:45] <nannes> CFHowlett: the problem is which I can't do it for now.. slow connection... i need to know something now
[23:45] <Fire> Are there any community/ Ubuntu recommended safe sites for PPA's???
[23:45] <KI7MT> no LXDE
[23:45] <Walther> Fire: what do you mean?
[23:45] <PPPPPPP> adn lxde is even lighter then?
[23:45] <zykotick9> !PPA | Fire
[23:45] <nannes> zykotick9: and what about support and repositories?
[23:45] <zykotick9> nannes: those are the same with all *buntus
[23:45] <KI7MT> Which  is pretty nice actually, close to gnome, but not as stripped down as xface
[23:45] <Fire> walther: was told here that PPA's should generally not be used if possible
[23:45] <mintman> any easy way to learn fluxbox
[23:46] <skinnymg1> lxde is awesome, but if your wanting an alternative to gnome xfce will probably suit the needs better
[23:46] <Walther> Fire: Ah. Well, there should be plenty of stuff available in the official Ubuntu Software center. The stuff that isn't there - you have to think wisely on your own
[23:46] <nannes> zykotick9: you mean that every software works fine on every distro?
[23:46] <terran4000> Hey all. Random odd thing that more or less happened recently: my sound 'died'. Alsamixer, and lspci and aplay -l all show my card just fine, just that the Ubuntu sound settings show zero hardware, just a blank 'hardware' tab. Any ideas?
[23:46] <zykotick9> nannes: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu all use the same repository, just different meta-packages
[23:47] <SaRSAeOL> terran4000: have you tried reloading alsa modules?
[23:47] <magpii> i made a video using stopmotion and lmms for the music. all the content was my own creation. youtube are threatening to take it down because i monitarized it and I cannot show that the gpl license from lmms and stopmotion allows me to make money off projects i create using their software. any help please?
[23:47] <Fire> walther, zykotick9: ok will assume Use at your own risk for all PPA's
[23:47] <pocata> not working does not appear below the ribbon even if it nestava minimize any application mozzila, skaip, etc.
[23:47] <Walther> terran4000: also, have you checked for updates / upgraded recently?
[23:47] <terran4000> SaRSAeOL, theory states that a reboot would have done that. Though I'll try reloading them manually
[23:47] <CFHowlett> magpii   don't use youtube?  and please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:47] <pocata> not working does not appear below the ribbon even if it is not minimize any application mozzila, skaip, etc.
[23:47] <nannes> zykotick9: ok, but I have some complex work to do.... So lubuntu entered the official project? about 1 year ago, it was not :S
[23:48] <pocata> :(
[23:48] <Walther> Fire: also, there are cases where the packages are available through the USC but newer versions are available through PPA's
[23:48] <terran4000> Walther, I did some updates recently, though none of them seemed to have anything to do with Alsa nor the kernel ... (I think)
[23:48] <CFHowlett> nannes   lubuntu is an official distro.
[23:48] <Walther> Fire: and those are very likely safe to go with
[23:48] <SaRSAeOL> terran4000: try a sudo alsa force-reload
[23:48] <zykotick9> nannes: i don't think lubuntu is official?  or maybe i miseed that?  "complex work" and ubuntu don't really go together IMO.  Good luck.
[23:48] <Walther> terran4000: well, it is more probable that an update caused it than it occured on its own
[23:49] <Walther> terran4000: try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:49] <Walther> !lubuntu
[23:49] <Walther> Lubuntu is totally official.
[23:49] <magpii> is there a forum for lmms or ubuntu studio?
[23:49] <Fire> Walther: But it is possible for malicious packages to be introduced through PPA's correct?
[23:49] <zykotick9> Fire: possible yes
[23:49] <pocata> walther: not working does not appear below the ribbon even if it is not minimize any application mozzila, skaip, etc.
[23:49] <CFHowlett> magpii   ubuntostudio forums yes.
[23:50] <Walther> Fire: True, but PPA's are still private - nobody else than the creator can alter the packages in them
[23:50] <magpii> ok thanks
[23:50] <KI7MT> Lubuntu is an official community supported distro, but not from Canonical, they only provide resources for Ubuntu proper.
[23:50] <Walther> Fire: so if you trust the author, it should be safe
[23:50] <terran4000> Walther, only flash and nautilus to upgrade
[23:50] <Walther> terran4000: hm... what kind of device are you using? onboard or pci?
[23:51] <Walther> pocata: just wondering, what is your native language?
[23:51] <Fire> Walther,zykotick9: thanks again for the info
[23:51] <terran4000> Walther, pcie
[23:51] <Walther> terran4000: aplay -l
[23:52] <pocata> I do not speak English very well
[23:52] <Walther> pocata: I noticed, what is your native language? Most probably there is an ubuntu channel for it, don't worry
[23:53] <Walther> there are so many Ubuntu users all around the world
[23:53] <terran4000> Walther, "card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 0: ctxfi [Front/WaveIn]" and others like it
[23:53] <terran4000> Walther, On a side note, I've had that card working flawlessly for the past several months
[23:53] <Walther> terran4000: ok, so kernel notices it... Do you have kernel modules loaded for it (does it require?)
[23:54] <terran4000> Walther, the only thing I noticed was this: $ pulseaudio                                                                                                                                                                           (03-05 18:50)
[23:54] <terran4000> W: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
[23:54] <terran4000> pulseaudio: /build/buildd/libav-0.8/libavutil/mathematics.c:79: av_rescale_rnd: Assertion `c > 0' failed.
[23:54] <terran4000> [1]    14059 abort      pulseaudio
[23:54] <Walther> a kernel update might have left something behind
[23:54] <Walther> Hmm.
[23:54] <terran4000> Walther, which I'm currently trying to figure out cause I guess that might and would be the issue ...
[23:54] <Walther> pulseaudio is causing it, it seems
[23:54] <TinkerToy> Hello! I'm here to ask about compiling something in a Lubuntu VM.
[23:55] <Walther> terran4000: of course, you could try reinstalling pulseaudio
[23:55] <pocata> Walther: my problem is that when you minimize a program appears on the bottom bar
[23:55] <Walther> TinkerToy: perhaps #lubuntu?
[23:55] <KI7MT> TinkerToy, probably best to ask in #lubuntu
[23:55] <terran4000> Walther, installing stuff I know, but how do I reinstall a package?
[23:55] <TinkerToy> Okay. Sorry!
[23:55] <Walther> terran4000: apt-get remove && apt-get install
[23:56] <terran4000> Walther, o, that way. :)
[23:56] <Walther> yeah, sadly no handy commands for reinstalling
[23:57] <trism> apt-get install --reinstall package
[23:57] <Walther> Oh, there is actually o.O
[23:57] <terran4000> woot!
[23:57] <KI7MT> Yeah. make life easy eh :-)
[23:58] <terran4000> Well, at least I finally confirmed something. This pulseaudio issue (or libavutil issue) is what's causing any app trying to play music to hang and/or crash. Guess this is progress!
[23:58] <nannes> hmm.. if I'd want to set up an apt server on a 20pc network, does it have to be particularly fast? (or an old intel_p4 256mb [100mb/s network] is good??)
[23:59] <KI7MT> nannes, no, as it's mostly network & disk I/O operations, not processor intensive.