[00:28] <littlegirl> Hey there, I've gotten no response in #kubuntu or #ubuntu-doc so perhaps one of you may be interested. The https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ContactUs page was last edited over 3 years ago and seems to be outdated.
[00:49] <Riddell> littlegirl: yes many of our wiki pages are outdates
[00:49] <Riddell> feel free to update them
[00:50] <littlegirl> Riddell: Who would know the up-to-date information so that I can put accurate info into the page?
[00:51] <Riddell> ask here if you are unsure what to say although it's late in European night so you might not get a quick response
[00:51] <littlegirl> Riddell: Are you in charge of Kubuntu documentation?
[00:52] <Riddell> littlegirl: in what context?  Darkwing writes most of the kubuntu-docs package
[00:53] <littlegirl> Riddell: I'm not sure. I guess I'd like to find out who to contact about being part of the Kubuntu documentation team. I'll ask in #ubuntu-doc. (:
[00:53] <Riddell> littlegirl: that'll be Darkwing 
[00:54] <Riddell> littlegirl: David Wonderly david.wonderly @ kubuntu.org
[00:54] <Riddell> and tidying up our wiki pages would be a lovely first contribution :)
[00:55] <littlegirl> Riddell: Thanks. I'll get in touch with him. I've already tidied up some of the Ubuntu wiki pages in the past, but became frustrated because the documentation team preferred discussing changes to doing them, and I'm a doer. (:
[00:55] <Riddell> you'll find Kubuntu more do-ing in general :)
[00:56] <Riddell> however I'm away for the next few days, others will be around but if you don't get a response here just ask on the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[00:57] <littlegirl> Riddell: Good to know. I'll definitely get in touch with him. I think they'll appreciate what I can do since I'm a highly energetic, motivated person and just need to be given the ability to do things and pointed in the right direction. (:
[00:57] <littlegirl> I'll wait to hear from him. It's not a problem. (:
[00:57] <ScottK> littlegirl: For Kubuntu wiki pages, no need to wait.  Go for it.
[00:58] <littlegirl> ScottK: Will do. (:
[00:58] <ScottK> Ask questions here if you have them, but please be patient.
[00:58] <Riddell> yeah I don't think Darkwing has been around for a few days so don't wait on him
[00:58] <littlegirl> ScottK: I'll try. (:
[00:58] <littlegirl> Riddell: Okay, although I'd love to hear from him at some point as to exactly what he'd like of me. (:
[01:04] <ScottK> littlegirl: It's more important for you to find what you'd like to contribute.  If we try to drive your contribution, it won't last.  You need to find what scratches your contribution itch and do it.
[01:05] <Riddell> littlegirl: nixternal is also a guy who's done bits on wiki pages in the past so might be handy to ask
[01:09] <littlegirl> ScottK: Okay, not a problem.
[01:09] <littlegirl> Riddell: Do you have an email address for him as well?
[01:09] <ScottK> littlegirl: I think it's nixternal @ kubuntu.org.
[01:11] <littlegirl> ScottK: Thanks! I'll fire off an email to him, too. (:
[02:00] <apachelogger> nixternal: oh meh
[02:00] <apachelogger> nixternal: I shall look at their code then
[02:01] <apachelogger> cuz it aint not making no friggin sense and they did not bother to comment it because they probably also did not know and simply copynpasted that entire thing
[02:01] <apachelogger> which explains the lack of structure and proper en_us and proper everything
[03:53] <littlegirl> I'm not sure if you two (Riddell and ScottK) are still awake in here, but this is what I do to a page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ContactUs#preview - you probably need to view the history of the page to see the difference. (:
[03:54] <littlegirl> Whoops - that should have been https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ContactUs
[03:56] <ScottK> littlegirl: Seems good.
[03:57] <littlegirl> ScottK: Thanks. I just wanted both of you to know that I won't do anything malicious, but really do want to help. (:
[03:57] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[03:57] <ScottK> littlegirl: Sounds great.  We can use all the help we can get.
[03:57] <littlegirl> Hey there, I think you're the one I should be talking to. (:
[03:57] <ScottK> Darkwing: meet littlegirl.
[03:57] <ScottK> littlegirl: meet Darkwing.
[03:57] <littlegirl> LOL
[03:58] <Darkwing> Sorry I have been gone... Laptop stolen and I lost 100% of everything :(
[03:58] <littlegirl> Darkwing, I'm interested in helping with Kubuntu documentation. (:
[03:58] <Darkwing> hey littlegirl
[03:58] <ScottK> Darkwing: littlegirl wants to help on docs and wiki.
[03:58] <Darkwing> WHOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:58] <littlegirl> Oh gosh, that's awful!
[03:58] <littlegirl> Darkwing: I hope you got it back, or got a replacement!
[03:58] <Darkwing> No, hard drive was encrypted so that's good.
[03:59] <Darkwing> I got a replacement thanks to ebay
[03:59] <littlegirl> I've helped with the Ubuntu wiki in the past, but got kind of frustrated with the ubunto-doc mailing list's interest in talking about things rather than doing things, so I kind of faded into the sunset. (:
[03:59] <littlegirl> Oh, good - I'm glad. (:
[04:00] <Darkwing> littlegirl: You going to be around tomorrow?
[04:00] <Darkwing> or rather... in about 16 hours? I'm GMT -0800
[04:00] <littlegirl> I've written and maintained a mostly linux blog (more of a web page, really) for years now, and written most of the content for the help pages of the WoaS wiki, and you're welcome to check any or all of that out to see what I can do. (:
[04:00] <littlegirl> Yep!
[04:01] <littlegirl> I'm on New York time. (:
[04:01] <Darkwing> Ok, I'm in San Diego
[04:02] <littlegirl> Blog: http://mostlylinux.wordpress.com WoaS wiki: http://sourceforge.net/projects/stickwiki/ BoaS (my version of WoaS that I redesigned and wrote more help pages for): http://bookonastick.wordpress.com/
[04:03] <littlegirl> And I'm always open to suggestion - like if you decide I'm too wordy or too stiff in my wording or anything else, I can work on it to make it better. (:
[04:03] <littlegirl> Also, I use Kubuntu, and have for years, so I'm comfortable in it. But although I can tinker around in Bash and JavaScript, I don't code in C or C++ or Python or anything, so I don't do any Kubuntu development.
[04:06] <Darkwing> Neither do I... That's why I do Docs and other such projects :D
[04:06] <Darkwing> You know HTML?
[04:06] <littlegirl> Yep, and CSS.
[04:07] <Darkwing> XML should be a streach then.
[04:07] <littlegirl> HTML was my first love. (:
[04:07] <Darkwing> shouldn't
[04:07] <Darkwing> Someone after my own heart.
[04:07] <littlegirl> hehe
[04:07] <Darkwing> HTML5?
[04:07] <littlegirl> Not sure. I just kind of read how to do whatever it is I need to know how to do and then use it. (:
[04:07] <littlegirl> I ask Google for a lot of help. (:
[04:08] <littlegirl> If you need me to know it, I could go check what's different about it and see if there's anything I need to learn.
[04:08] <Darkwing> Okay, well, XML and DocBook is what we use.
[04:08] <littlegirl> Ooooh, I don't know DocBook, and I hear that's a bit of a learning curve, right?
[04:09] <Darkwing> Not really.
[04:09] <littlegirl> I also don't know XML, but you seem confident that that won't be hard. (:
[04:09] <Darkwing> It's all tags like HTML. Trust me, you'll pick it up quick.
[04:09] <littlegirl> Ah, that doesn't sound bad. Is there a simple guide and maybe a cheat sheet for looking things up quickly after getting through the guide?
[04:10] <ScottK> It'll mostly be pretty obvious if you look at existing text.
[04:10] <Darkwing> ScottK: +1
[04:10] <Darkwing> littlegirl: I'll be on a bit later tonight and I'll be shoving a lit tomorrow.
[04:10] <ScottK> If you start with edits based on updating content it's easy enough to pick up the structure as you.
[04:11] <Darkwing> lit == lot
[04:11] <littlegirl> Ah, okay, that sounds pretty good. That's kind of how I do everything anyway - or at least how I got into everything (like HTML and JavaScript) to begin with. (:
[04:11] <littlegirl> Darkwing: What's shoving a lit?
[04:11] <Darkwing> shoving a lot
[04:12] <Darkwing> March 22nd is the doc freeze.
[04:12] <littlegirl> Darkwing: By the way, in case you missed it since you logged in after I wrote it, I just edited https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ContactUs and brought it up to date, so you can see something recent I've done. ("
[04:13] <littlegirl> Oh! Well, I'd be happy to go over any docs you need help with. I'm good with grammar and spelling and read very quickly, so I can probably devour huge swaths of text and make sure it's good. (:
[04:13] <Darkwing> Oh this is going to be cool.
[04:14] <Darkwing> What's your schedule like tomorrow?
[04:14] <littlegirl> Darkwing: I'm available whenever you like, and I'm disabled and stay home, so my schedule is flexible. (:
[04:14] <Darkwing> littlegirl: sounds good. I'm always logged in so, I'll ping you when I get on tomorrow.
[04:15] <littlegirl> Darkwing: Okay, that sounds good, too. You said in about 16 hours?
[04:15] <Darkwing> prolly noonish my time... 3p your time.
[04:15] <littlegirl> Darkwing: Okay, I'll be on. (:
[04:15] <Darkwing> Sweet. :)
[04:16] <Darkwing> I need to finish getting stuff installed on my laptop.
[04:16] <littlegirl> It was good meeting you. (:
[04:16] <Darkwing> I'm Dave BTW
[04:16] <littlegirl> Okay, and thanks to ScottK and Riddell, too. (:
[04:16] <littlegirl> Darkwing: Ah, nice to meet you, Dave. I just go by Little Girl everywhere online. (:
[04:16] <Darkwing> Awesome.
[04:16]  * Darkwing departs for a few
[04:17] <littlegirl> Okay, good night, all. See you tomorrow. (:
[07:46] <jalcine> Wow, that update to Qt 4.8 threw off so much of my MOC code.
[08:09] <soee> hi
[08:10] <soee> do you know maybe if gwenview offers opacity effect ?
[08:12] <jussi> soee: in what way? editing photos? 
[08:13] <soee> jussi, yes i just want to change image opacity
[08:13] <jussi> oooh, agateau! I just got gwenview to crash on precise. youll have a bug in a moment.
[08:14] <soee> works fine for me here :)
[08:14] <jussi> soee: I dont think so, Ive not seen it. (although thats not a confirmation)
[08:14] <soee> there is option to cut image so i thought that there will be opacity setting or something likne that
[08:15] <jussi> yeah, as I said, I havent seen one, but that doesnt mean there isnt one. (asking in #kubuntu would probably be a better place than here anyway)
[08:23] <Tm_T> soee: Gwenview is image viewer/manager, not editor, so it doesn't have much editing tools (:
[08:23] <soee> (:)
[09:41] <Riddell> gooten tag
[09:43] <brestows> are  you  wecomed ?
[09:43] <brestows> *welcomed
[09:44] <Riddell> oh hi brestows, did you get 4.8.1 tested?
[09:44] <brestows> Riddell: yes,  last night
[09:45] <Riddell> brestows: can you comment on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[09:45] <Riddell> under "PPA Testing KDE 4.8.1 Precise"
[10:54] <agateau> Riddell: hi! if Zanshin 0.2.1 package from https://launchpad.net/~agateau/+archive/ppa/+packages looks good enough, can you upload it?
[11:12] <brestows> Riddell:  I will write the commentary, as soon as I analyse the updating results in detail
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: weird, clicking on notifications works just fine here
[12:48] <shadeslayer> ( in KTelepathy)
[13:12] <ScottK> shadeslayer: How about in plasma-netbook?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> uhh, not sure
[13:13] <shadeslayer> lemme check
[13:13] <ScottK> Sure.
[13:14] <shadeslayer> wfm
[13:18] <shadeslayer> ScottK: what does /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.KTp.Approver.service say ?
[13:18] <shadeslayer> and then the output of : qdbus org.kde.kded /kded org.kde.kded.loadModule ktp_approver
[13:18] <shadeslayer> oh, maybe I should mention that I'm using XMPP here, not AIM
[13:24] <starbuck> hello, i had an error with kubuntu backports upgrade to KDE 4.8
[13:24] <starbuck>  /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-widgets-workspace_4%3a4.8.0b-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa5_amd64.deb
[13:24] <starbuck> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:26] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Need to go get the netbook.  I'll let you know in a few.
[13:26] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:26] <shadeslayer> starbuck: Battlestar galactica fan ? :P
[13:27] <starbuck> haha, not really, never seen any episode...
[13:27] <starbuck> so does anyone know where this comes from?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> heh, what a coincidence then ...
[13:27] <yofel> starbuck: that's not enough from the error message
[13:27] <shadeslayer> starbuck: can you post more of the backlog?
[13:27] <yofel> or rather that piece is mmissing the actual error
[13:27] <shadeslayer> pastebin if it exceeds more than 3-4 lines
[13:29] <starbuck> it seems that some 4.8 packages "replace" 4.7.3 packages, but Ubuntu features 4.7.4 packages and these replace causes are now ignored for that package? i was able to fix it by apt -f install and then dist-upgrade again
[13:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/871434/
[13:39] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 197 * debian/ (patches/0002-Fix-mem-leak.patch changelog patches/series) and 0002-Fix-mem-leak.patch from upstream KDE/4.8 branch
[13:39] <shadeslayer> looks good ...
[13:39] <ScottK> $ qdbus org.kde.kded /kded org.kde.kded.loadModule ktp_approver
[13:39] <ScottK> true
[13:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Please send me a highlight.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ok
[13:40] <ScottK> Today it works.
[13:40] <ScottK> Meh.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: everything looks good, I'll have to investigate a bit deeper
[13:40] <shadeslayer> ...
[13:40] <ScottK> Oh, lost track.
[13:41] <ScottK> Quassel works.
[13:41] <shadeslayer> okay
[13:41] <ScottK> Still didn't make KDE Telepathy work.
[13:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you check if the approver is running in the kded dialog thingy
[13:41] <shadeslayer> launch by typing "kded" in krunner
[13:41] <ScottK> OK.
[13:42] <ScottK> BTW, why does KDE Telepathy authentication handler have to access my wallet three times.
[13:42] <ScottK> Seems ineffecient.
[13:43] <shadeslayer> possibly because it has so many modules? Again, doesn't happen here
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ^ Speculating there, no proof that it actually does it
[13:44] <ScottK> Telepathy integration module is the only telepathy thing that shows up there.
[13:45] <shadeslayer> yeah, that's the one
[13:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Do you let stuff have access to the wallet once or do you approve it forever?
[13:45] <ScottK> If the later, you've no way of knowing.
[13:45] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[13:45] <shadeslayer> I also have a Instant Messaging approver
[13:45] <shadeslayer> ScottK: latter
[13:46] <ScottK> So you wouldn't see the multiple requests.
[13:46] <ScottK> Yeah, I have the IM approver too
[13:46] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Do AIM?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> nope, how long does it take to make a account?
[13:47] <ScottK> Not long
[13:47] <shadeslayer> give me 10 mins
[13:47] <ScottK> Of course I made mine in about 1996, so who knows.
[13:47] <shadeslayer> Uhh, I have no AIM entry in my account list btw ( When creating a account in ktp )
[13:47] <shadeslayer> gah
[13:47] <shadeslayer> it's called AOL, first entry
[13:48] <ScottK> Yeah.  That's what the A stands for.
[13:48] <shadeslayer> heh, I rarely hear of AOL these days
[13:48] <ScottK> Nor does anyone.
[13:48] <ScottK> My dad still uses it.
[13:49] <shadeslayer> iirc I had a friend who was interning at AOL about a year ago
[13:50] <ScottK> BTW, "Telepathy Contact List" is totally going to confuse people.  Not that "Kopete" is much better, but at least current users are used to it.
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the usecase is more like : Click Plasmoid in the system tray and it brings up the contact list 
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: email addy?
[13:52] <shadeslayer> for some AIM fails to connect on ktp
[14:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: So "I want to IM someone".  What do I click on?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: double click any contact
[14:02] <shadeslayer> should start a new text window
[14:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uh, question, how did you add your AIM account? I keep getting certificate errors
[14:03] <ScottK> Add account -> other -> AIM something or other.
[14:04] <shadeslayer> right, any special settings?
[14:04] <ScottK> Nope.  First and only thing I've done with KDE Telepathy.
[14:04] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:06] <shadeslayer> \o.
[14:06] <shadeslayer> \o/
[14:06] <rbelem> i've been using kde telepathy since the packages were announced
[14:06] <shadeslayer> figured it out
[14:06] <rbelem> no issues
[14:06] <rbelem> i use with three google accounts and one facebook
[14:06] <shadeslayer> ScottK: could you ping me?
[14:06] <shadeslayer> on AIM
[14:19] <ScottK> shadeslayer: In other news, did you see me pings re your digikam build?  http://paste.debian.net/158699/
[14:20] <shadeslayer> yes, I saw that when I was at college
[14:20] <shadeslayer> ffffuuuuuuuu
[14:22] <ScottK> Give me a diff for that, I'll apply it and resume the build.
[14:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: 2 potential fixes for that, make digikam use the libkipi that we pull in or patch digikam's internal libkipi
[14:24] <shadeslayer> I'm inclined towards the former
[14:24]  * ScottK too
[14:24] <shadeslayer> okay, I'll dive into the icky CMake file then
[14:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-telepathy/2011-June/002159.html << Possibly relevant discussion 
[14:31] <shadeslayer> I'll brb
[14:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It does seem so.
[15:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hmm, okay, I don't see anything about internal kipi libraries being used
[15:10] <ScottK> Dunno.
[15:11] <shadeslayer> there's nothing related to internal kipi libs in CMakeLists.txt
[15:13] <shadeslayer> wtf
[15:14] <shadeslayer> oh, wrong build log
[15:14] <shadeslayer> @_@
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/434330/raw
[15:22] <shadeslayer> just replace kubuntu_fix_arm_build with that
[15:26] <ScottK> Building
[15:28] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> hey ScottK , shadeslayer, so far, so good, with kde 4.8.1 :)
[15:37] <shadeslayer> yay
[15:38] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[16:38] <ScottK> yofel_: New kdepim tarball.
[17:05] <shadeslayer> ScottK: digikam update?
[17:05]  * ScottK looks
[17:06] <ScottK> asploded.
[17:06] <shadeslayer> uh
[17:06] <shadeslayer> is that uploaded or exploded? :P
[17:07] <ScottK> ex
[17:07] <shadeslayer> argh
[17:07] <shadeslayer> ScottK: build error?
[17:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I lost the first error due to scrolling, but here's what I got: http://paste.kde.org/434462/
[17:07] <shadeslayer> @_@
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Time to setup a qemu
[17:08]  * ScottK guesses a missing include or something
[17:08] <ScottK> Or I can restart the build and get a full log
[17:08] <shadeslayer> uh, that's going to take a shit load of time
[17:09] <shadeslayer> It's going to be usefull for me to setup a qemu arm image
[17:09] <ScottK> Yes.  Yes it is.
[17:09] <ScottK> OK
[17:11] <shadeslayer> yofel_: do you remember how we set up ARM stuff before?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> finally, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/shadeslayer/KubuntuDevApplication
[17:25] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yofel_ ^
[18:29] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 198 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) use new tarball and drop patches again
[18:36] <yofel_> shadeslayer: now send a mail to the ML and schedule a dev meeting
[18:36] <shadeslayer> yofel: will do
[18:36] <shadeslayer> sec
[18:36] <yofel> and thanks to reminding me re MOTU ^^
[18:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/scripts/compress.sh
[18:37] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: also, I found something interesting, qemubuilder
[18:37] <shadeslayer> !info qemubuilder
[18:38] <yofel> hm
[18:38]  * yofel looks
[18:39]  * yofel installs
[18:39] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:39] <shadeslayer> setup instructions here : http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/tech/setting-up-armel-qemubuilder
[18:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: which kernel are you using btw?
[18:51] <yofel> natty one
[18:51] <shadeslayer> O_O
[18:51] <shadeslayer> is that the only one available?
[18:52] <yofel> well, the wiki page still links to the lucid one, and natty is newest that still worked for me
[19:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: doesn't work http://paste.kde.org/434510
[19:12] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[19:12] <shadeslayer> give me a couple of minutes, I'm still setting up
[19:13] <yofel> shadeslayer: ignore me
[19:13] <yofel> $ qemu-system-arm
[19:13] <yofel> The program 'qemu-system-arm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:13] <yofel> sudo apt-get install qemu-system
[19:13] <yofel> -.-
[19:13] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:19] <yofel> hm, now it's emulating the wrong cpu I think
[19:19] <yofel> pl181: Unexpected FIFO write
[19:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: grab this : http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.2.0-18-omap_3.2.0-18.28_armhf.deb , extract the deb and use the kernel in /boot/
[19:22] <shadeslayer> I wonder if ARCH=armhf is supported
[19:23] <shadeslayer> ( in qemu )
[19:33] <shadeslayer> Your architecture armhf does not seem to be supported
[19:33] <shadeslayer> hah
[19:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: did it work?
[19:50] <yofel> shadeslayer: not quite
[19:51] <yofel> I tried telling it to use a specific cpu, but now it tells me:
[19:51] <yofel> qemu-system-arm: -cpu cortex-a8: invalid option
[19:52] <shadeslayer> brr
[19:55] <yofel> k, I did it wrong
[19:55] <yofel> now I get a bit further before failing
[19:55] <shadeslayer> I'm a bit concerned about this tho " ... -append root=/dev/sda quiet init=/pbuilder-run ... "
[19:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: how do you sepcify the CPU type?
[19:58] <yofel> edited qemubuilder.c and rebuilt
[19:58] <shadeslayer> @_@
[19:59] <yofel> options are hardcoded
[19:59] <shadeslayer> what does it use by default?
[19:59] <yofel> the default - which isn't what we want it seems
[19:59] <shadeslayer> oh
[20:00] <yofel> blow qemubuilder.c line 309 add:
[20:00] <yofel>   0       argv[argc++]="-cpu";
[20:00] <yofel>   1       argv[argc++]="cortex-a8";
[20:00] <yofel> *below
[20:00] <yofel> - numbers at the beginning, that was vim
[20:02]  * yofel gives up on it for  today
[20:04] <shadeslayer> I'm still stuck on   forking qemu: qemu-system-arm -nodefaults -nographic -M versatilepb -m 1024 -kernel extracted_deb/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-omap -drive file=/home/shadeslayer/ubuntu/arm/base.qemu,index=0,media=disk,cache=writeback -drive file=/home/shadeslayer/ubuntu/arm/build/qemu.18091.dev,index=1,media=disk,cache=writeback -append root=/dev/sda quiet init=/pbuilder-run console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 -serial stdio -net user -net nic
[20:05] <shadeslayer> no idea why ...
[20:05] <yofel> !testers
[20:05] <yofel> !ninjas
[20:05] <shadeslayer> whut whut
[20:05] <yofel> 4.8.1 for oneiric finished building in ninjas
[20:05] <yofel> needs testing
[20:05] <shadeslayer> ah, don't have oneiric
[20:05]  * ScottK doesn't run PPA packages on his oneiric system.
[20:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You should talk about non-Kubuntu stuff in your application if you really want that to be a MOTU application too.
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah, will update it before I send it for MOTU
[20:14] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Then I'd change the intro in the meantime then.
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:28] <Riddell> evening
[20:30] <Riddell> agateau: I'm away until Friday so can't look at zanshin until then
[20:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: there's something seriously wrong with qemubuilder ...
[20:50] <shadeslayer> anyway, I'm off to sleep
[20:50] <shadeslayer> night
[21:46] <ScottK> 4.8.1 is released.
[21:46] <ScottK> yofel: Can you make the PPA packages public?
[21:46] <ScottK> Someone needs to upload to Precise too.
[21:48] <yofel> ScottK: I don't see the release annoucement mail yet
[21:48] <ScottK> It's on packager
[21:49] <ScottK> I think that's plenty good enough for our purposes.
[21:50] <yofel> that's the page update mail, not the release mail
[21:52] <Riddell> I just copy them over on the day of release
[21:52] <Riddell> since it takes time to do the copying and then testing that and ages to build it in the archive
[21:52] <Riddell> then I announce when sebas changes the kde.org pages
[21:53] <yofel> k, then I'll do the copying in a bit an upload kdelibs and meta
[21:54] <Riddell> we are already linked from http://kde.org/info/4.8.1.php
[21:56] <ScottK> Yep.  That's what was on packagers.
[21:56] <ScottK> yofel: It's constructively released at that point.  The packages are no longer private, so there's no reason to hold back.
[21:56] <yofel> well, ack, then
[21:56] <yofel> let's see...
[22:06] <yofel> oneiric copied
[22:06] <yofel> now to l10n
[22:08] <soee> hmm is there some ppa with gimp for precise ?
[22:08] <Riddell> soee -> #ubuntu
[22:08] <yofel> -> #ubuntu+1 
[22:09] <soee> :)