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pocatahi help me00:01
pocatamy problem is that when you minimize a program appears on the bottom bar i`am ubuntu00:01
glosolianyone got lm-sensors properly working with Precise ?00:13
psusiglosoli, questions like "does anyone..." are rather unhelpful... try to ask a specific question about the problem you are having00:20
glosolipsusi: well the question was made quite good. I was asking if anyone got it working00:21
glosolicoz for me it doesn't show CPU00:22
glosolijust acpi00:22
andrewacltAre crash reports stored somewhere?00:38
trismandrewaclt: /var/crash/00:40
stiltzkinHi folks, hoping someone can help me with installing fglrx on precise or at least give me an idea as to why I'm getting compile-time errors with ATI's packages.  I am following the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but changed "oneiric" to "precise" at the build step. The installer retrieved all dependencies for my system but fails to build.00:43
andrewaclttrism, thanks00:43
pocatahi help me i`am problem my problem is that when you minimize a program appears on the bottom bar i`am ubuntu00:44
pamposzekHey, can you help me with making bootloader for usb, but for 11.10? I get wrong checksums error.01:06
micahgpamposzek: see #ubuntu for help with 11.1001:14
pamposzekI'm actually on 12.04 right now.01:14
pamposzekAnd I can't make boot to USB using 11.10 iso file.01:15
stiltzkinpamposzek, you're trying to make a bootable 11.10 USB stick?01:17
pamposzekYes.01:17
stiltzkinInstall unetbootin and write the ISO to your thumb drive that way.01:18
stiltzkin"sudo apt-get install unetbootin"01:18
pamposzekIt will work even if I'm on live cd?01:19
stiltzkinYes. If you've already downloaded the ISO then just choose the ISO option and point it to the file. It will take care of the rest for you.01:19
pamposzekThanks, I hope it will work. :)01:19
stiltzkinAlso make sure your USB is formatted and empty first, and that it is mounted (unplug and replug it)01:20
stiltzkinIf you haven't already downloaded the ISO it has an option to download it for you.01:20
ozpyhi! how to autohide the left app bar on ubuntu 12.04?01:44
andrewacltSystem Settings->Appearance->Behavior01:44
ozpyAlright! I got it01:46
arielsanflosaludos02:07
arielsanfloalguien sabe como colocar el repositorio de terceros en ubntu 12.0402:07
bazhangarielsanflo, english here please02:08
arielsanfloanyone knows how to put the third-party repository ubntu 12.0402:09
quantumlemurhey, I just updated to 12.04 recently, and since the update, the power statistics window is sometimes blank when I open it.  the first few times, it's normal, but at some point it stops working, and won't display anything until I restart and try again02:34
quantumlemurinternet searches don't turn up anything.  any ideas?02:35
xrfanghi, I wonder if Subversion 1.7 will be included in Precisee repo or not...?04:09
micahgxrfang: probably not at this point04:28
xrfangthanks micahg, then I will use WANdisco ppa.04:29
KI7MT.04:34
scientesdoes the installer support btrfs05:53
scientesdebian-installer ("alternate")05:53
scientesthe installer allows btrfs, but doesn't support using compress=zlib06:08
AnAntHello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path06:34
red_how change a keyboard lang in ubuntu 12.0407:42
crizzyred_: system settings > keyboard layout07:43
crizzytop-right corner > system settings..07:43
scientesanant ...gone07:46
red_crazzy : thanks07:48
mongowith the new resolvconf am I correct in thinking there is no way to set the fqdn?07:52
Ian_Good morning everyone08:13
karlhuntI have a power charging issue that has existed in ever distro of linux for about a year anyone help me track it down08:41
coz_anyone having issues with printers not being recognized?  I have a kodak termal printer that never has had issues ,, however the printer setting shows no printers connectd08:49
hifijust out of curiosity, anyone from the debian/ubuntu games team here?08:56
tokarbolis the lightdm logon screen supposed to be ok to move with the top bar?09:19
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psaldenhi, I notice precise won't properly resume after suspend while using the radeon driver. Is this something known?09:29
AruzsiHi there,09:33
AruzsiPlease help me! Who or what sets the recordfail GRUB environment variable?09:34
Ch_IossifHi to all! RAID problem on 12.04b1 - more: paste.ubuntu.com/869743 - any ideas?09:39
glosoliI have critical problem. There is a problem. When I am on battery and set my screen brightness to the lowest, I open chrome use it for few settongs, and screen brightness is automatically set max ://////09:48
psypher246hi all, PLEASE can someone help urgently. I tried to install the nvidia propretary driver and due to several issues I uninstalled it. no I cannot get the nouveau driver to work at alkl and i'm stuck on a 1024*768 res, does not detect larger res at all, lsmod does not show nouveau module loaed, help!09:50
psypher246i tried uninstalling and reinstalling nouveau, but still nothing09:50
Aruzsi_glosoli: Hi, I think I found my GRUB problem. System doesn't set recordfail to 0.09:50
Aruzsi_btrfs kernel panic remains in the today linux image. :-(09:52
glosolihate these problems09:52
glosoliI found that's DIM Problem.09:53
glosoliIt trys to DIM screen a bit when I don't do anything for some seconds, and then I move mouse screen brightness is FULL :/09:54
psypher246hi all, does anyone here know how to kill lightdm correctly so that I may run sudo Xorg -configure to fix a major driver issues?10:08
ryepsypher246, service lightdm stop ?10:09
zniavresudo service lightdm stop10:09
psypher246does not work10:09
zniavreooops too late sorry10:09
psypher246kicks me back inot the desktop10:09
ryepsypher246, if you have only one display/monitor, remove xorg.conf completely - nouveau driver will be picked via autodetection10:10
psypher246how else can i generate a clean xorg config file so that I can use nouveau?10:10
psypher246rye, that its not working10:10
ryepsypher246, is kernel nouveau module loaded?10:10
psypher246rye: if i delete the xorg I cannot set resoultuion or detect my 2ndf screen and no it does not load the module10:11
ryepsypher246, w/o kernel nouveau module you won't be able even if you have xorg configured - the logs should now say you are using VESA mode only10:11
ryexorg logs10:11
psypher246rye: thats what i fugred, so how do i force nouveau?10:12
ryepsypher246, so first you need to make sure that the kernel module is loaded. does modprobe nouveau work?10:12
psypher246it all worked fine 20 mins ago before installing the crappy propretary drivers10:12
psypher246nope10:12
psypher246modprobe nouveau10:12
ryepsypher246, how did you uninstall them? You may have nvidia module sitting in the kernel still10:12
psypher246WARNING: Module off not found.10:12
psypher246WARNING: Module off not found.10:12
ryemodule off???10:13
psypher246i used the hardware drivers app10:13
ryepsypher246, lsmod | grep nvidia ?10:13
psypher246jockey aint it?10:13
psypher246lsmod | grep nvidia10:13
psypher246nvidia              12294232  5410:13
ryepsypher246, kill it with fire10:13
ryepsypher246, rmmod nvidia10:13
psypher246rmmod nvidia10:13
psypher246ERROR: Module nvidia is in use10:13
ryepsypher246, you need to kill lightdm and Xorg, however it may be used by something else/have structures used in other modules. Have you restarted the machine after driver removal?10:14
psypher246yes10:14
psypher246several times now10:14
ryepsypher246, ok, so your nvidia.ko is still present - find  /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name 'nvidia.ko'10:15
psypher246look i had to reinstall nvidia to get a working desktop, so must i uninstall again, reboot and then try rmmod?10:15
ryeumm10:15
psypher246sorry i forgot I had to install again10:15
rye:)10:15
psypher246else i couldn't even open empathy cos gloabla menus don't display cos the res si so low10:15
ryepsypher246, so, when you remove the driver again, drop xorg.conf before reboot, then perform the reboot, autodetection will pick up nouveau driver. If not - verify that kernel module is present, that nvidia module is no longer available, and check whether there are WW (warnings) EE (errors) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:17
* rye is happy he switched to intel-based machine10:17
psypher246rye: thanks will try that, just gotta put out a fire quick, since i just got my pc running again :/10:18
psypher246rye, is intel drivers runing well?10:18
ryepsypher246, except of menus sometimes not drawing properly in compiz - yes; currently fglrx is broken for Xv for ATi cards in precise (ABI change) and nvidia drivers on my 8400 were really slow (and finally my card burned itself in the laptop)10:19
ryeso intel is so far my best one :)10:19
psypher246rye: i have that menu drawing issue as well10:19
ryepsypher246, bug #934072 ?10:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 931473 in compiz-plugins-main (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #934072 Menus don't fully appear" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93147310:20
psypher246yup10:20
ryeah10:20
ryethat's gtk/compiz bug10:21
psypher246although bug says fix released?10:22
glosoliAnyone here got problems with Screen Dim messing up on battery ? It dims screen but when I move moves it doesn't remember previous brightness state and sets it to full10:24
c3ssohello10:32
c3ssosomebody there who knows about unity greeter?10:33
ronsonolEncountering a display issue with gcalctool.   Using xubuntu AMD64.  Wondered if experienced elsewhere.10:36
ronsonolDepends on the theme, but most, the display area or buttons are dark gray/black text on a black background.10:40
c3ssoAfter the switch to dconf, all my attempts to change the greeters values have failed10:48
AnAntHello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path10:54
psypher246AnAnt: you can't upgrade directly like that, you have to go Natty, then oneiric, then precise11:02
psypher246AnAnt: just reinstall, it's easier and less downloading11:03
AnAntwierd, I thought that LTS to LTS+1 upgrades SHOULD work !11:03
psypher246oh11:03
psypher246damn i forgot about that11:03
tokarbolwell, I thought that as well11:03
psypher246sorry!11:04
AnAntis there anyone who tried it ?11:04
crizzyAnAnt: you need to wait for final release11:04
psypher246ok that explains it11:04
crizzyit will work ^^ but not in beta11:04
AnAntdoesn't really explain it, because this is something that needs be tested before final release11:05
psypher246good point11:05
c3ssouhm is somebody here who is familiar with unity greeter?11:16
psypher246c3sso: not veryb familiar, but maybe I can help11:18
c3ssowell,11:23
c3sso After the switch to dconf, all my attempts to change the greeters values have failed11:23
psypher246c3sso: :/ ok thats a bit over my head sorry11:24
ronsonolpsypher246, gcalctool display okay for you?11:27
psypher246ronsonol: yeah looks ok11:27
c3sso tried it with sudo dconf editor, and as a normal user, but changing the values would not do anything11:28
ronsonolI'm getting black numbers on a black screen.11:28
psypher246no mine is fine, and was fine on nouveau and nvidia driver, what card u got?11:28
ronsonolSome GTK Warnings in terminal I don't know if are usual.11:29
ronsonolATI, using the non proprietary driver.11:29
psypher246ronsonol: I got those too, but fort apps as well11:29
psypher246for most*11:29
ronsonolI was just trying to get an idea of the bug epidemology.  I'm on xubuntu AMD64.  Get bugs no one else gets.11:30
ronsonolThere's a couple themes where gcalctool displays in a functional way, but, um, those themes suck.11:32
ronsonolAnd this the same theme I was using in 11.10 -- dunno what happened.11:33
psypher246what theme u on?11:33
ronsonolgreybird.11:33
psypher246hmmm, sounds like you should log a bug for that theme11:34
ronsonolIt's several themes.  Others, the display area is good, the buttons are black with black numbers.11:34
ronsonolThankfully, I'm old skool enough remember how to use bc. :P11:35
psypher246i hacve issues in empathy when i mouse over people's names, their details pops up, all the text is white on a white background11:35
AnAntc3sso: gsettings11:40
AnAntc3sso: unity-greeting uses gsettings now11:40
AnAntc3sso: I have installed an override in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ with the following contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/871309/ , and it worked11:44
AnAntc3sso: note that you will need to run sudo /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ after installing the override11:45
snadgeim using ubuntu precise to distill ethanol12:09
snadgei wonder if thats a first ;)12:10
FernandoMiguelsnadge: ahahahahahah12:16
FernandoMiguelsnadge: http://qdb.us/30784512:16
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paradiesstaubhi, I'm currently testing precise. my PC just crashed compleatly and I don't know how to report the crash - could be the kernel or compiz.12:42
c3ssoAnAnt: thanks. I have now switched to gtk-greeter which is simple and does what I want. I eventually will try out the gsettings thingie though12:45
Lukas1321Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't run PAE kernel13:30
Lukas1321Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't run PAE kernel13:34
Lukas1321Ubuntu 12.04 with ATI graphics card doesn't run PAE kernel13:34
ironhalikLukas1321: I know its not the proper answer, but you could consider running x64 version of Ubuntu13:37
glosoliWhat's the point of using PAE?13:38
glosoliif processor supports 6413:38
glosoli ?13:38
Lukas1321I'm not too sure about this: I have a Quad-core AMD, Asus motherboard and an ATI integrated graphics card.13:38
PiciLukas1321: Yes, it does. It does not support processors that do not support PAE though.13:39
ironhalikLukas1321: with quad-core processor, you can run x64 version13:40
ironhalikit will probably be the recommended version for 12.04 eitherway13:40
Ian_some atom processors and old pentiums and the oldest gen of dual core were 32bit13:43
Ian_the rest is 64bit I think13:43
Ian_amd being there before intel too13:43
ironhalikIve got a lappy with the last dual core that was 32 bit :)13:44
ironhalikULV13:44
glosoliironhalik: may it be the problem for him that PAE not working because he uses Wubi Installer ?13:44
yt372I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?13:45
glosoliyt372: Get MyUnity app :)13:45
glosoliyt372: or system settings -> appearance13:45
yt372Is there a way to add more themes? The default ones are butt ugly13:45
ironhalikyt372: No you did not! :O13:46
ironhalik;>13:46
ironhalikglosoli: No idea, but since I think wubi is stupid, yeah, why not13:46
glosoliyt372: No it isn't for now, custom themes looks ugly because some things changed in metacity and themes need to be updated13:46
yt372Well, in my opinion anyway ;)13:46
ironhalikyup, true13:46
ironhalikcustom themes are broken for now, for ma at least13:46
yt372Ah, I thought it might be possible to use the default Gnome 3 theme which looks nicer13:46
glosoliyt372: I tryed Adwaita Cupertino, Zukini ,ZukiTwo and some of other, they look more ugly now, because of the problems i mentioned above13:46
glosoliyt372: it is13:47
glosoliyou can use adwaita for sure13:47
yt372Ok, that's good to know, thanks13:47
ironhalikBtw, guys, anyone know of a oldish but fully functional under linux wifi-n card? For miniPCIe13:47
ironhalikI had some broadcom chip that sucked and had no power management enabled in the kernel13:48
ironhalikbought for five bucks intel 4965, that was, since intel supports OSS drivers, supposed to be working perfect13:48
ironhalikbut then, it turned out, it had power management disabled too13:48
yt372ironhalik: I suggest seeing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported or the FSF: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html13:49
ironhalikhmm, nice, thx13:49
ironhalikthe power management feature, or lack of thereof, is costing me about half an hour of battery life13:54
glosoliironhalik: same here :) what a pity13:57
pip__where can I find a 12.04 non-pae mini iso, if indeed such a thing exists please?13:58
cogI have issue:  the default package manager stalled & I want synaptic :C14:14
mvocog: stalled in what way?14:14
cogno downloading14:15
yt372Just use command line to install synaptic, then use that. The official Ubuntu package manager sucks, it's buggy14:18
cogy thank u :> how do i enable multiverse packages?14:21
cogn/m lol14:23
cogI can never thank you enough for your teaching.  Thank you & thank reality for such positive energy.  May you receive more positive energy than you gave.14:24
yt372cog: Are you on meth?14:24
cogNo.14:25
cogShould I get on it? :D14:25
* cog thinks about never having to brush his teeth again & smiles :B14:25
yt372Does Canonical employ any kernel developers? I ask because I reported a bug, and they just told me to pass it on to the kernel bug tracker instead...14:32
brendandyt372 - yes, but bugs should always be reported to the upstream kernel tracker14:37
brendandyt372 - do you have a bug number?14:38
ironhalikHuh, I went with a9k based atheros for my WiFi14:45
ironhalikI wonder what hidden defects Ill find now :)14:45
yt372brendand: I was just wondering if this was possible, as I've heard complaints from Fedora about Ubuntu users being told to report bugs there too. The impression is that Canonical don't contribute upstream very much14:46
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drumusiciandoes anyone have succes getting wunderlist to work in 12.04?15:07
AnAntHello, I tried to upgrade from Lucid 10.04.4 to Precise beta, but it failed, saying that it cannot compute upgrade path. I was told that it wouldn't work indeed until precise is released as stable. Isn't there a way around this ? Otherwise, how will the case of upgrading Lucid to Precise will be tested before release ?15:16
glosolidrumusician: I did15:17
glosolidrumusician: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/how-to-install-wunderlist-in-ubuntu.html15:19
glosolidrumusician: in fact everything works perfectly except global menu not, menus are displayed inside the program15:20
glosoliAnyone there has knowlede with ls ? I want it to show folder tree with files15:45
zlynx1ls -las15:46
valdur55glosoli, and man is your friend.  Shoot man ls   :)15:48
Ian_ls -R15:49
glosolivaldur55: nah that was not what i Needed found tree package which gives me exactly what I need15:50
ritzIs it possible to locally build a package for oneiric from bzr branch on precise, using buildeb plugin ?15:51
DaekdroomWhy does Ubuntu ship GIMP 2.6.x instead of 2.7.x?15:57
glosoli2.7.x is in development15:58
glosoli:)15:58
glosoliit isn't said to be stable15:58
glosoli2.7.x is what will become GIMP 2.815:58
NOSaturnquestions: in 12.04 beta1, i do not have the quick actions on the home icon, privacy in settings, or the video lens... i ran the upgrade over my previous 11x and had a video lens add on and zietgiest editor add on. How can i restore these 3 feature using 12.04's implementation?16:06
DaekdroomNOSaturn, I think what you refer to as 'quick actions' are the big 8 icons?16:08
NOSaturnDaekdroom, no... when i r click on something in the launcher.. it works on the unity icon, and mounted drives, but shouldn't there be one for the home folder icon that launches nautlis?16:09
NOSaturni may have had an addon thing that modified that too, but i tried to remove all those before upgrading16:09
DaekdroomThere should be one quicklist for Nautilus, indeed.16:10
DaekdroomThe video lens is available through the unity-lens-video package16:11
Daekdroomand "Privacy" under system settings should be there by default16:11
NOSaturnDaekdroom, yeah.... but it seems since i had messed with those before, it broke the 12.4 version. :-/ shouldn't i be able to "wipe" the existing and re-up on the beta bits?16:12
Daekdroom!info activity-log-manager-control-center16:14
ubottuactivity-log-manager-control-center (source: activity-log-manager): blacklist configuration for Zeitgeist (control center integration). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 68 kB, installed size 269 kB (Only available for any all)16:14
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coghow do I get my synaptic to make my computer have all three sets of scientific software?  I shift-clicked &16:39
cogit failed16:39
glosolizzecool: you here ?16:39
zzecoolglosoli:  yes but not for long16:39
zzecool:)16:39
zzecooltell me16:39
glosolimay you try pm me ?16:39
glosoliwana check sms16:39
zzecoolyes16:39
glosolismth16:39
zzecooli did16:40
zzecoolcog: what do you mean ?16:40
zzecoolif you want to mark multiple packages try one by one16:41
cogI want all the educational & mathematical & scientific categories of software available through synaptic so I used shift to select one subset16:41
cogbut it fails16:42
cog"Depends: libbiojava-java but it is not going to be installed"16:42
malihmmm in the normal ubuntu channel they say they dont do normal support but I guess some kind of first time users support. I am on oneiric though.. does ubuntu ahave any channel meant for linux users? :/16:42
glosoli#ubuntu ? :D16:42
maliwhen I asked a rather simple linnux question, they said they dont get that kinda advanced questions in there16:44
maliso I am looking for a normal channel for linux users, which are on this distro :)16:44
maliubuntu-devel?16:44
bazhangno16:44
zzecoolmali: ubuntu is a linux distribution  for support go to #ubuntu16:44
zzecoolhere we are beta testing the nexer development release16:44
zzecoolnext16:44
bazhangthats not a support channel mali16:44
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Ian_mali: #ubuntu is the way to go though..16:44
willmali: how specific to ubuntu is it? if it's generic, use #linux16:44
bazhang#ubuntu for support if you are on oneiric mali16:45
maliblah. :( well no it is ubuntu specific else ye. . I doubt i would use #ubuntu :)16:45
bazhangmali, this is not the channel for it if you are on 11.1016:45
hggdhmali: there is always the fora, and answers.ubuntu.com16:45
Dr_willis_Err.. i never saw you actually ask somthing in #ubuntu16:45
zzecool_afkmali:  shot the question out of curiosity before i leave16:45
* hggdh grabs popcorn16:46
* zzecool_afk looking with jealous at hggdh 16:46
* Dr_willis_ eats his porkchops16:46
* zzecool_afk :O16:46
maliwell I need to path aka enclose the password var in slappasswd for ubuntu oneiric (server). Debian patched this in january so I presume patching doesn't always trickle too fast .. so I am wondering.. what would I do to make sure I can patch the package, and/or provide it downstream so that either patch is A)available downstream or B) does not ruin my custom patches from another update.16:47
* Dr_willis_ rereads.. and thinks 'path' means 'patch' at the start... :)16:48
maliI refer to zzecool_afk : it would be this patch I guess: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=63593116:49
ubottuDebian bug 635931 in slapd "slapd fails to install due to configuration error" [Normal,Fixed]16:49
zzecool_afkmali: you can lock the version of the package you are using16:49
Dr_willis_every 6 mo release syncs back to debian i belive. so in 12.X the patch shuld be in there from what ive read.16:49
zzecool_afktry to search "ubuntu lock to current version"16:49
maliok cool. so  I patch locally, lock it. report bug to ubuntu, wait till there is an update, then peruse it to make sure the patch I entered is also enclosed in an update, then unlock if I find it satisfactory say?16:50
mali6 months on a server system??16:50
zzecool_afkmali: i cant see any other way16:51
malislapd fails with "advanced" passwords simply because $1 is not enclosed as "$1" in slappasswd during install..16:51
Ian_zzecool_afk: bugfixes get backported too16:52
zzecool_afkthis is an essential bug for you but if it is only you i dont think it is going to go firsti on the fix list16:52
maliI guess I can just run it locally then but ok.. good ot know. I guess perhaps, rolling release servers aren't necessarily less secure. hmm. Thank though zzecool_afk16:52
Ian_but not always16:52
zzecool_afkmali: you have some point about rolling but....16:52
Ian_But i think you can request it, no?16:53
zzecool_afkim rly afk now16:53
malinah, zzecool_afk : It is not mission critical since one can I think patch it locally; use a less secure password or even run it manually afterwords as slappasswd -s "advanced_funky_password"16:53
maliok thanks16:53
zzecool_afk:)16:53
FunnyLookinHatHow can I restart Unity?  It seems to be acting up ( not launching applications when I click on their search results, etc. )16:53
maliI will give the last one a try to confirm as I left ubuntu after that erm thing came... unity or what it was :)16:54
Dr_willis_unity --restart  (i think)16:54
zzecool_afkALT + F2    -------> unity --replace16:55
zzecool_afkim off16:55
FunnyLookinHatCool thx16:55
malibut since I wont be touching gfx on a server, and debian don't know.. I couldn't find piece with it.. I am trying ubuntu minimal again for the server.16:58
malialthough 6 month delay on some patching could be a bit strange16:58
Dr_willis_security updates between releases normally.16:59
Dr_willis_I forget the url to what/reasons/how..  saw it detailed on some wiki pages16:59
maliye then why has the failure of setting advanced LDAP passwords *slapd* not been patched.. it was done in jan it seems on debian and upstream have fixed it too iot seems.17:00
Dr_willis_11.10 came out in November.17:00
maliI admit, it's been since 10.10 I was on ubuntu so I am a bit rusty on checking the package versions.. apt-cache search openldap?17:00
Dr_willis_the issue is also in 12.04 then the patch never got merged i would guess..17:00
malithere you go17:01
maliI find that strange for a server edition17:01
Ian_mali: apt-cache policy17:01
maliespecially something like ldap root password script ;/17:01
Dr_willis_there may be other reasons for the patch not getting moved along. I rarely pay attention to it.17:01
Dr_willis_!info openldap17:01
ubottuPackage openldap does not exist in precise17:01
maliits only enclosing a password field in brackets.. but I can't remember my launchpad either hehe. I guess I will patch it and send it off to devels17:01
Dr_willis_search launchpad for similer bug reports first perhaps?17:02
maliye well I ended up here talking cos one cant ask normal linuxx questions in ubuntu support it seemed17:02
malionly how do i type on a keyboard? kinda questions17:02
Dr_willis_This is not a 'normal' linux question.. and ive seen more complex ones asked in #ubuntu17:02
mali(not that I can, myself ,p)17:02
maliwell , thank god then. Because that is what I got in reply17:02
maliand it is not a complex question really, by all means.17:03
Dr_willis_never saw that reply. then again patching stuff is not really common for the majority of users.17:03
malithanks Ian_ btw17:03
Dr_willis_THeres also the #ubuntu-server channel but i never go there.17:03
maliso are you saying that 'server' peeps dont have an own chan for support and discussion, only the one along with the well, new to linux users?17:04
Dr_willis_THen theres the   askubuntu.com site thats getting better all the time.17:04
malior is that part of canonical's paid support services?17:04
maliAHHH, there you go17:04
Dr_willis_ I just said theres a Ubuntu-servers channel. :)17:04
maliTHAT's what I was looking for, I am sorry.. I asked in ubuntu for which channel and that too they failed to say when i asked which channel to go to.17:04
Dr_willis_theres also a #ubuntu-beginners i think.17:04
maliyes, you did.. the channel I was meant to be in , however, did not ,(17:04
Dr_willis_I dont even know how many people are even in the server channel on a daily basis.17:05
malithats where most ubuntu users seem to should go in the #ubuntu chan17:05
malibut thanks..17:05
Dr_willis_I never go to the beginner channel either. :) i help out in #ubuntu all the time.17:05
wtfdoggie22hi, i'm running precise and just tried to update and now some packages are broken ... could anyone help me investigate?17:05
valdur55wtfdoggie22, some packages,17:06
wtfdoggie22Mar  6 17:58:56 Erdbeere AptDaemon.Worker: CRITICAL: gvfs-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured17:06
wtfdoggie22Mar  6 17:58:56 Erdbeere AptDaemon.Worker: CRITICAL: libglib2.0-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured17:06
valdur55!paste wtfdoggie2217:06
Dr_willis_often during beta.. things get really messed up - then fixed the next day. :)17:07
valdur55!pastebin wtfdoggie2217:07
wtfdoggie22ok ok i use pastebin17:07
Dr_willis_ive not updated in 3+ days.. so cant really advice17:07
wtfdoggie22http://pastebin.com/ECzU8PzW17:07
wtfdoggie22i few days ago i wondered why there were packages shown in the update manager that were not marked17:08
wtfdoggie22wenn trying to install them in synaptics it said it wanted to remove a lot packages in order to install them17:08
wtfdoggie22so i didn't install them17:09
wtfdoggie22i think ubuntu tried to install them now17:09
wtfdoggie22but dont know why17:09
alex_mayorgaIs it safe to remove /usr/lib32 now that multiarch has took over?17:11
coghow do i make a window go to a workspace17:16
willcog: ctrl + shift + alt + arrow button17:16
bmoezhi, is there any tutoriel to learn how to tweak unity in ubuntu 12.04 by any script (not a program like my-unity)?17:17
cogthanks will17:17
willthere's a button combo to change workspace too, but i've forgotten how to do that17:17
willah - it's super + shift + direction keys17:18
willcog: hold super button to see combos17:18
wtfdoggie22here is more info about the broken dependency problem: trying to add gvfs-bin in synaptics: http://imagebin.org/20222017:19
wtfdoggie22trying to add libglib: http://imagebin.org/20222117:19
scar3crowvmware modules won't compile... :(17:20
wtfdoggie22so it looks like apt-get -f install solved the problem17:30
wtfdoggie22but no idea what happend17:30
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cogsynaptic won't open18:07
valdur55cog, open terminal and then shoot synaptic :) Then you get error msg18:07
Edicohi18:32
Edicohow can I have another panel besides the left one in unity?18:33
Edicoa panel in which I put icons18:34
Ian_you can't18:34
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mp_hi all! i can't upgrade from 11.10 via update-manager. won't show the new available version. any ideas?18:36
mp_is editing sources.list an option?18:37
Fyodorovnamp_, is 11.10 your main OS?18:38
mp_yep18:38
Fyodorovnamp_, not a good move really do you have a clone of 11.10?18:38
mp_unfortunately not18:38
mp_is that the way to go?18:39
mp_*one way18:39
mp_i always could use alternate install image18:39
mp_i suppose18:39
Fyodorovnamp_, always have a image is a good idea. Having one will protect you.18:39
Fyodorovnamp_, you might condider dual booting the development can fail.18:40
Fyodorovnaconsider*18:40
mp_the data on this machine is not important at all to me18:40
Ian_other then that, use update-manager -d18:40
mp_so, i might just do a full install18:41
mp_Ian_: that's what i did18:41
mp_:)18:41
Fyodorovnamp_, it will be much faster and just a beter move really.18:41
mp_would this normally run without gksu?18:41
mp_it didn't work for me18:41
Fyodorovnamp_, gksu where?18:41
mp_dunno how it's called in ubuntu. after alt+f218:42
Fyodorovnamp_, you don't upgrade in root.18:42
mp_well, update.manager just wouldn't start otherwise. but good to know18:43
Fyodorovnaah tty18:43
mp_tty?18:43
Fyodorovnacli18:43
Fyodorovnacomand line basically18:43
Fyodorovnacommand*18:43
Ian_mp_: I would advice against updating to a beta if you don' tknow this term18:44
mp_well, not my terminal. i think it once was called krunner in kde distros18:44
mp_Ian_: thanks for that18:44
FyodorovnaIan_, many other flags here but what can yah say eh. :)18:45
mp_so, editing sources.list to the beta repos is not an option? cause that's what i do in debian when upgrading18:45
Fyodorovnamp_, honestly no.18:46
mp_any idea what went wrong with my install?18:46
Fyodorovnamp_, nothing it sounds like it is just an area that you seem lost in. UPgarding to a development is not for the faint at heart.18:47
Fyodorovnaupgrading*18:47
mp_Fyodorovna: thanks for your kind words, i appreciate that, really.18:48
Fyodorovnamp_, an upgrade if you got it working might take 4 hours, fresh install 20 min.18:48
mp_my last ubuntu upgarde must have been 2008, so, i really don't know anymore18:49
jtayloreatmydata it and you get it done in 30min + 10 min :)18:50
Fyodorovnajtaylor, your advising a person unable to even get it started to use another method on a development?18:52
mp_well, i'm not really in the mood to hook up my usb dvd-rom and do a complete install. i thought i'd get it the easy way. i'll just wait, methinks18:52
mp_Fyodorovna: well, as i said, the method mentioned on ubuntu.com didn't work for me. i had to become root for som,e reason18:53
Ian_mp_: changing the sources should work18:54
Ian_but make sure you are fully uptodate first18:54
mp_done that18:54
Ian_and watch out if you have any ppa's installed18:54
mp_nothing like that. thanks mate18:54
mp_but i'm curious though _why_ the standard way didn't work for me18:55
mp_oh, yeah, i also can't switch into tty1-618:56
mp_weird, had to restart my terminal after changing into tty119:00
mp_is kde in the ubuntu repos or are there different kubuntu repos?19:24
mp_*can't check - upgrade is running19:26
Fyodorovnamp_, the kubuntu-desktop and all its stuff is in the Ubuntu repos19:26
mp_thanks, will try that later19:26
mp_so, kubuntu-desktop is the virt. package to go19:27
Fyodorovnamp_, ???19:27
gareth_hey guys, is there someone who might know how to show me a way to find out why qjackctl will start in RT mode whilst running as su, but not when I'm running it on my user account? I've added myself to the audio group, what else do I need to do?19:28
mp_oh, i meant if kubuntu-desktop is the name of the package to get the kde desktop19:28
Fyodorovnamp_, yeah. :)19:28
mp_:)19:28
mp_so, while i'm still upgrading: how cool is 12.04? more stable than 11.10?19:34
glosoliAnyone has knowledge connecting to ubuntu from ubuntu using Desktop Sharing ?19:34
ironhalikmp_: its a 'meta package' to be exact :)19:35
mp_i always called them virtual packages. but thanks :)19:36
Fyodorovnamp_, not really more stable it is in development, at least that is the rhetoric.19:39
ironhalikTheres tons of small improvements19:40
ironhalikand some bigger ones19:40
ironhalikGenerally, its the first Ubuntu iteration that got me to install it on my desktop without dualbooting19:40
ironhalikand thats saying a lot ;> for me at least :>19:40
mp_well, it's beta after all. i just read about the new hud, actually i only saw a screenshot and thought i'd need to see that, that's why i'm upgrading19:41
ironhalikUnity is much snappier overall19:41
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mp_even though i'm not a ubuntu user i always liked the idea of unity. 11.10 was just a bit unstable19:42
mp_good things need time, i think19:43
mp_ironhalik: what was your other os?19:45
ironhalikshhh, I shouldt say the name here ;>19:46
mp_oh, a classic :)19:46
Captain_Protonanyone know how to make empathy pop open a window in GS19:46
RISCi_ATOMHas anyone else had issues with qemu and kvm not properly installing?20:12
mp_any error?20:14
RISCi_ATOMI have not had time to debug now, but "apt-get install qemu" does not properly install qemu :\20:15
RISCi_ATOMThere are no errors with its installation20:15
mp_what gives apt-cache policy qemu?20:16
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RISCi_ATOMqemu:20:17
RISCi_ATOM  Installed: 1.0+noroms-0ubuntu620:17
RISCi_ATOM  Candidate: 1.0+noroms-0ubuntu620:17
mp_looks good to me20:18
RISCi_ATOMIn the "Software Center" (I do not like to use), says that it has been replaced by a dummy pkg :\20:19
mp_never played around with kvm though20:19
mp_did you find a howto?20:19
blizzowMega bummer, I just updated, rebooted and now I get this nasty grub-efi boot message that says:  "null in the ring    Aborted.  Press any key to exit."20:19
blizzowwhere is the any key?20:19
mp_irc classic20:20
blizzowafter I found the any key, I pressed it and get:  .alloc magic is broken at 0xd3c9fca020:20
blizzowI tried to boot into a livecd, mounted proc,sys,dev,dev/pts, and reinstall grub.  That did not help.  Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this problem?20:21
mp_you better find that place in your ram and fix it20:21
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mp_alright, 70 minutes from s/oneiric/precise/g to telinit 6 and i'm not in the mood to fix what i broke. laters20:26
mp_at least my tty1 works again :(20:31
jmazzilightdm isn't sourcing my ~/.xsession on login20:33
jmazzianyone know why?20:33
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legodudehi everyone, when I try to 'kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade' I get "No new release found" when trying to do 11.10->12.04, any ideas?20:46
mp_jmazzi: just a long shot: did you adjust your xsession-directory in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?20:49
jmazzimp_: i did not20:50
jmazzii'll take a look at what's set20:50
trismjmazzi: ~/.xsessionrc is sourced on login, if you actually want to use ~/.xsession, the .desktop file in the first comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/lightdm/+bug/818864 works (just tested)20:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 818864 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "add support for an “Xclient” fallback session" [Wishlist,Triaged]20:50
trismjmazzi: when you copy it to /usr/share/xsessions/ that is20:50
jmazzitrism: are you saying i simply need to rename the file to .xsessionrc or do i need to apply a patch from that ticket too?20:51
yofellegodude: check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make sure that prompt isn't set to Never20:52
trismjmazzi: if you just want the file sourced, then yes, just rename it, it is sourced in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc20:53
jmazzitrism: fantastic, thanks for the help!20:53
chrisg91Hi I'm trying to install 12.04 alongside windows 7 so I chose that option but that slider that lets you choose how to allocate disk space between the two does not label which one is for ubuntu and which is for ubuntu, can someone tell me if the slider on the left is for ubuntu or is it the right one, I want to give ubuntu a smaller partition20:59
Fyodorovnachrisg91, ersize Wy with its disk manager21:00
Fyodorovnaresize21:00
FyodorovnaW7 doh21:00
Fyodorovnachrisg91, your really better leting windows do thien check that it still works then install ubnuntu.21:01
chrisg91Fyodorovna: okay I guess thats the safest way thanks21:01
Fyodorovnachrisg91, make sure you have W7 cloned=image and a recovery disc as well.21:02
legodudeyofel: thought I had changed that in one of the gui programs, but it was set to lts, now working, thanks21:12
yofellegodude: software-properties-kde doesn't set that right, known issue21:12
legodudedoh, thanks for your help21:13
fairuz_Hey, how to know if I'm using beta 1 or alpha?21:17
glosolifairuz_: if you are up to date21:17
glosoliyou are using beta21:17
glosoliit's matter of packages not the name on the iso file21:18
fairuz_ok thanks21:18
mp_or compare the kernel versions21:18
cwaineyARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?21:41
cwaineyARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?21:44
cheakoHello, I'm adding a delay in fsck because luks takes a few seconds to have it's devices identified....  The UUIDs are renamed from (UUID)-unformatted to (UUID)-ext4 or whatever.  fsck keeps dumping errors like (UUID)-unformatted file not found, a race condition from when the prog that calls fsck to when fsck is actually run...  perhaps I'll see if I can get fsck to take a file handle instead?21:46
cwaineyARe graphical artifacts on login common under precise?21:50
cwaineyanybody experience screen garbage when logging in on Precise?22:00
cheakocwainey: On startup yes.22:00
c3ssocwainey: seems like unity-greeter is full of bugs22:00
Fyodorovnacwainey, can we get a screen shot?22:00
cwaineymaybe..22:00
c3ssomy advice is to use lightdm-gtk-greeter until the have sorted it out22:00
c3ssothey22:01
cheakoFyodorovna: This could be the initial video memory prior to the first glclear.22:01
Fyodorovnacwainey, I have not seen any problems myself.22:01
Daekdroomcwainey, there's a bug report on it already22:01
Daekdroombug 93196722:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 931967 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Corrupted graphics after the login until the unity launcher appears" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93196722:01
c3ssoI actually failed to change any values in unity-greeter (like grid on / off or background) after the switch to dconf22:04
cwaineyHowwould I switch the greeter?22:04
c3ssoinstalling the package   lightdm-gtk-greeter22:05
cwaineySimple enough :P22:05
c3ssothats not all: and then set it as default greeter:22:06
c3ssosudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -g gtk-greeter22:07
cwaineyThat all?22:07
c3ssoYes. you can restart lightdm with   sudo initctl restart lightdm22:09
c3ssoor reboot22:09
cwaineyWhaddaya know, it worked... thanks22:11
c3ssogood to hear.22:12
c3ssothis greeter is propably not too fancy bit mostly works22:13
c3ssoI say mostly because the shutdown and reboot entries top left do nothing for me22:13
cwaineyhaha22:14
c3ssocwainey: could you check that? they also did not work with unity-greeter22:14
cwaineygive me a mo..22:15
c3ssoDoes anybody know how to change settings of unity-greeter ? I tried to use dconf-editor, but it does not take the changes I made there22:17
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cwaineyc3sso, shutdown button do not work for me, and I had to switch back to unity-greeter...22:23
c3ssook22:25
c3ssoI will file a bug then..22:25
FernandoMiguelHALP HALP22:26
FernandoMiguellatest updates made my screen brightess set to MAX22:26
blizzowholy cats google is fast... http://ubuntulinuxgethelp.com/2012/03/after-todays-updates-bang/22:31
blizzowI have the exact same problem.  Does anyone know of/how to fix this?22:32
FernandoMiguelanyone recalls where I can ECHO the bright setting?22:35
FernandoMiguel$ cd /proc/acpi/22:37
FernandoMiguelac_adapter/ battery/    button/22:37
FernandoMiguelaint going far with that22:37
trismc3sso: you can use gsettings vendor overrides, I don't now if there is a better way though: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-4522:39
eruditehermithey, did screen brightness break in general or did I screw something up on my system?22:41
mykrobinsonSuddenly today, I am no longer able to control my screen brightness.. Any ideas?22:41
eruditehermitmykrobinson, ok i have the same issue22:42
FernandoMigueleruditehermit: broken for me22:43
eruditehermityay22:43
FernandoMiguelit doesn't even detect the display22:43
FernandoMiguelmykrobinson: join the group22:43
eruditehermitas long as its not just me22:43
FernandoMiguelsomeone file a critical bug pleaase22:43
FernandoMiguelI'm going BLIND here22:43
eruditehermitlol22:43
eruditehermitme too22:43
FernandoMigueland it's killing my battery22:43
eruditehermitf.lux for now22:43
FernandoMigueleruditehermit: I can't even echo the bright :(22:43
eruditehermitFernandoMiguel, how does one echo the bright?22:44
mykrobinsonso long as I didnt break it..22:44
mykrobinsonProbably my fault for pushing updates before being notified to push updates. I cant help it..22:44
eruditehermitlol22:45
FernandoMiguel/sys/class/drm$ ll | pastebinit22:45
FernandoMiguelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/872170/22:45
FernandoMigueleruditehermit: you can't... it's broken too22:45
eruditehermitmy battery meter is also broken =p22:45
FernandoMiguel(06-03-2012 22:45:37) seb128: it's a gnome-settings-daemon issue22:46
FernandoMiguel(06-03-2012 22:45:43) seb128: FernandoMiguel, no, I might look at it tomorrow22:46
FernandoMiguelguess we will have to wait22:46
eruditehermithrm22:46
eruditehermitmaybe we can downgrade gnome-settings daemon22:46
FernandoMiguelbig MAYBE22:47
FernandoMiguel-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  461K Mar  2 07:35 gnome-settings-daemon_3.3.90-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb22:48
FernandoMiguelrebooting22:49
DrHalanhey suspending worked fine in oneiric for me. and it still does in precise but when my machine is suspended the fan keeps running (even faster than when not suspended).22:49
DrHalanis there a way to debug suspending?22:49
eruditehermitbtw does anyone know how to make unity panel applets run in gnome-shell?22:50
FernandoMiguelFYI it's working again22:50
eruditehermitFernandoMiguel, nice22:50
eruditehermitFernandoMiguel, will brb too then22:50
FernandoMiguelif anyone needs the older package 64bits I can provide it22:50
FernandoMiguelor else, pull it out of LP22:51
eruditehermithttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/3.3.90-0ubuntu4/+build/325326722:51
FernandoMiguelthere you go :D22:51
eruditehermitbrb22:51
DrHalanfixing suspend? anyone? should i report a bug?22:52
DrHalanwhat package is responsible for suspending? the linux kernel?22:52
FernandoMigueland now chrome isn't opening22:53
FernandoMiguelDrHalan: 5 dupes already filed22:53
FernandoMigueloh suspending22:53
FernandoMiguelno idea, but might be related22:53
eruditehermitworked here22:54
eruditehermitbtw do you guys know about hybrid graphics?22:54
eruditehermitI was trying this22:56
eruditehermithttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics#Script_for_use_during_bootup22:56
eruditehermitbut it doesn't turn off my discrete GPU still22:56
FernandoMigueleruditehermit: #ubuntu-x22:58
eruditehermitFernandoMiguel, thanks!22:59
eruditehermitFernandoMiguel, do you use unity?22:59
FernandoMiguelofc23:00
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