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philipballew!mount04:48
ubot2`mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount04:48
Cheri703so I'm not a beginner with ubuntu in general, but I'm relatively new to unity: suddenly my chromium icon in the launcher has an oval with a 1 in it, what does this mean?05:44
Unit193I do not know for sure, but it seems like it would indicate active downloads, and there seems to be indications you can disable or enable some Unity features in about:flags05:59
Cheri703ahhh, it may have been from a failed download. for some reason it keeps deciding random pages I click on should be downloaded >.<06:08
Cheri703it vanished and I had no idea why, that makes sense now06:08
Unit193They've been doing a few updates to be integrated in Unity.06:09
jemohAm trying to install a python GUI kit called easy GUI and when I try to install via the terminal this is what I get :09:09
jemohjemoh@Hiuhu:~$ sudo python '/home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py' install09:09
jemoh[sudo] password for jemoh:09:10
jemohrunning install09:10
jemohrunning build09:10
jemohrunning build_py09:10
jemohfile easygui.py (for module easygui) not found09:10
jemohfile easygui.py (for module easygui) not found09:10
jemohrunning install_lib09:10
jemohwarning: install_lib: 'build/lib.linux-i686-2.6' does not exist -- no Python modules to install09:10
jemohrunning install_egg_info09:10
jemohRemoving /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info09:10
jemohWriting /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info09:10
jemohSomeone plz help me install it09:10
geirhaTry   cd /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/ && sudo python setup.py install09:15
geirhaMy guess is, it expects the current dir to be the dir where setup.py is located09:17
jemohYeah I have done ie and this what I get :09:19
jemohjemoh@Hiuhu:~/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs$09:19
jemohBut still it has not installed09:19
jemohWhat else could I be missing ?09:20
geirhaSo   sudo python setup.py install   outputs nothing now?09:22
jemohThis is what it shows :09:24
jemohjemoh@Hiuhu:~/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs$ sudo python  setup.py  install09:24
jemohrunning install09:24
jemohrunning build09:24
jemohrunning build_py09:24
jemohrunning install_lib09:24
jemohrunning install_egg_info09:24
jemohRemoving /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info09:24
jemohWriting /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info09:24
jemohStill not installed09:24
geirhafind /usr/local/lib -name "easy*.py"09:25
geirhaLooks like it got installed correctly since there's no error messages09:26
jemohsorry but what does lib - name mean09:27
jemohOh wait I found it. What should I do next ?09:28
geirhapython -c 'import easygui'09:32
Unit193!pastebin09:33
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jemohThis is what I get:09:33
jemohjemoh@Hiuhu:~$ python -c 'import easygui'09:33
jemohjemoh@Hiuhu:~$09:33
geirhaNo import error, so it's working. You can start using it.09:34
jemohWhere can get the icon toexecute it ?09:34
geirhaHm? It's not a program, it's a module. You make your own program that utilizes this module...09:35
geirhahttp://easygui.sourceforge.net/tutorial/index.html  seems to be its tutorial09:36
jemohOk. pliz give me an example of a GUI program I can use to create programs written in python ?09:36
geirhaAn editor like gedit is sufficient, but there are probably some good IDEs too. I have no experience with any though. I just use an editor.09:38
geirhagedit myprog.py  ... write the first example script of the tutorial, then   python myprog.py  to run it09:38
geirhajemoh: #python might know of some good IDEs for python programming.09:39
jemohAnd lets say you wanted to make a program that has a user interface but written in python programming language what GUI kit can someone use ?09:40
geirhaI don't know. Maybe someone else here does, but I'm sure you'll find someone who does in #python09:41
jemohOk thanx for your help highly appreciated09:42
jalcineHow about quickly?09:44
jemohWhat do you mean by quickly09:47
jalcineIt's this nifty app in Ubuntu used to write PyGtk apps (afaik).09:48
jalcineit should be on http://developer.ubuntu.com09:49
jemohThanx jalcine for your help I finally did it10:54
jemohI recently installed mysql and now its asking me for a username, password & server name. What should I do to acess the mysql interface ?10:58
scriptwarlock_ping anyone?12:48
jalcinescriptwarlock_: thanks for not doing a massive pingfest, lol.12:49
jalcineWhat's up?12:49
scriptwarlock_nah just checking12:49
jalcineI peek in occasionally.12:49
scriptwarlock_likewise12:50
hobgoblinlol12:51
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nlsthzninstalled ubuntu, and right after updates and a restart my monitor is going out of range... how can I force my install to a certain resolution from grub or a recovery console?15:29
sandjkirklandI am having issues with ubuntu oneric to where at random the computer freezes and the monitor goes white16:56
holsteinsandjkirkland: is this something that just started happening? did it used to work? was it after an upgrade? when booting, hold down the shift key, see if you se an older kernel there to try and boot into17:00
sandjkirklandit happened also with the previous version.  The other kernel I used a disk.  I upgraded to oneiric17:02
holsteinwhat happened?17:03
holsteinit cam *not* working out of the box? or it worked for a while and boke?17:03
holsteinbroke*17:03
sandjkirklandholstein - Its been broke, Really has never worked right except for 9.0417:04
holsteinsandjkirkland: if it were my machine, i would run the vesa graphics driver for a bit (if not permanently) and monitor the performance17:06
holsteini would use something like puppy linux or knoppix live, and i would grab the xorg.conf from in there and paste it into my ubuntu install17:07
holsteinyou can try googling around for and xorg, or creating one from scratch, but for me, i like to see the desktop running and grab what i can assume is "known good" and tweak the driver setting from there to vesa or whatever17:08
sandjkirklandI've used ubuntu for a while but have never jumped into programming. I'm going to need to be guided through it17:09
holsteinits not really "programming" at all17:10
holsteinthere used to be a file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. that was back in the 9.04 days17:10
holsteinif you put one there, the more recetn ones are going to read/use it17:10
holsteinyou can also just bott a live CD, and use "safe graphics mode" or "no mode set" and test like that17:11
holsteinor, using puppy, you get a setup wizzard at boot... you could boot it up using xorg... test, them boot it up with vesa and test17:11
sandjkirklandThe strange thing is, its just so random. I can goes days without problems and sometimes its like 4 or 5 times in one day17:12
holsteinsandjkirkland: i feel like the graphics card driver is the issue, and i cant really say without further troubleshooting17:12
holsteinif you're looking for a "go here and do this and all will be well" solution, you'll need to provide more information on what the graphics card is17:13
sandjkirklandhang on, checking17:13
holsteinand i will take that information and search around for bugs or whatever and help in the forums17:13
holsteini can only point you in the direction of what to do17:13
holsteinand regardless of the graphics card, running the vesa driver as a test is a good troubleshoting step17:14
holsteinit takes the graphics card driver out of the equation17:14
holsteinif you can run stable with the vesa driver, then you *know* its something with the driver17:14
holsteinyou can then, either, as i suggested, just use the vesa driver, or look for another driver provided by the manuafcturer17:15
holsteintypically, *if* drivers can be provided, they are... theres nothing about linux/ubuntu that *doesnt* allow you device manufacturer to provide you a driver that works17:15
holsteinbut, there are thing that manufacturer can do that makes it near impossible for *anyone* else to provide you a linux driver that'll support that device17:16
holsteinim not saying thats where you are, or thats what the issue is... im just speaking from experience as to what i typically find is the issue when i see that behavior17:16
sandjkirklandcomputer is an hp with amd 64 bit grapphics card original ati radeon express 20017:17
sandjkirkland64 bit processer17:18
sandjkirklandnot 64 bit graphics card, types that one wrong17:18
holsteinsandjkirkland: open a terminal and run lspci17:19
holsteinthen...17:19
holstein!paste | sandjkirkland17:19
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holsteinOR, try one of the above methods of using the vesa graphics driver... use it, monitor, and report :)17:20
sandjkirklandgot report hang on, posting17:22
holsteinwell, what you have is the lspci output, the report im talking about will be like "i have been using the vesa driver for 4 hours and...)17:23
holsteinbut, thats a good start :)17:23
sandjkirklandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/871761/17:23
holsteinsandjkirkland: do me a favour... run in a terminal lspci -v ...then do the same pastebin17:29
sandjkirklandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/871776/17:32
holsteinsandjkirkland: you see Kernel modules: ati-agp17:32
holsteinthats what im talking about.. thats one option, there are others, and the vesa driver is *always* a good troubleshooting step17:32
holsteinyou can reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI as well17:33
sandjkirklandhow did you say to install vesa17:35
holsteinsandjkirkland: its not about installing it.. its about using the vesa driver thats *already* there17:38
holsteinbut, i would work where you are comfortable17:38
holsteini suggest, get a PUPPY linux live cd... theres a wizard that i mentioned earlier... when you boot up, you choose the different drivers, and test17:39
holsteinOR, you can grab that xorg.conf from there, copy it into your ubuntu install in /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:39
holsteinfrom there you can try to specify different drivers17:40
holsteinOR, you can reference that link i gave and consider installing another ATI driver17:40
holsteinOR, try the 12.04 daily live CD images and see if the support is better there for your hardware (though i likely doubt that)17:41
sandjkirklandso I have quite a few options, that's good.17:42
holsteinsure17:42
holsteinbuying other hardware is an option even ;)17:42
holsteinrunning 9.04 is an option17:42
holsteintrying different kernels.. whatever .. you'll need to either *really* search around for someone with that hardware to give you first hand advice, or just troubleshoot17:43
holsteinfor me, with problematic hardware like that, i usually get live CD's and try them.. its an easy way to test different kernel versions and drivers quickly17:44
holsteinin my "toolkit" or whatever i typically have the latest ubuntu LTS (which is 10.04 now) and the upcoming version (which is 12.04) and maybe a gparted live and a knoppix or a puppy17:45
holsteinsomething i know will "just work" on most anything17:45
sandjkirklandalright, thanks for your help.17:47
holsteinsure.. good luck sandjkirkland .. it can be frustrating dealing with issues like that, but try different kernels and drivers out, and i think you'll find it :)17:48
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johnny77I am trying to create a Ubuntu install USB. The check sum is coming out right; I'm using unetbootin to make usb; I've tried it on two computer; both see the flash drive after booting, but neither will boot the flash drive; gives a operating system missing error.20:26
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kristian-aalborghi ppl21:27
kristian-aalborgholstein, yo21:27
kristian-aalborganybody got experience with unpaper?21:27
nothingspecialwhoops :)21:28
kristian-aalborghttp://i.imgur.com/ySGNJ.gif21:29
kristian-aalborglooking for a method of fixing a bunch of these pictures before turning them into a pdf21:30
kristian-aalborgso they get rotated properly and lose the white border...21:30
holsteinkristian-aalborg: hey!21:36
sluckxzwhy would sudo work fine in konsole but not graphically in muon?21:49
Unit193Generally you're supposed to use...21:49
Unit193!gksudo21:49
ubot2`If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)21:49
sluckxzi mean that sudo apt-get update works fine in konsole but using muon fails when it asks for sudo permissions with an authentication error.21:51
sluckxz"This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"21:51
sluckxzseems like maybe kdesu or something is broke as all graphical requests to elevate permissions are apparently failing.21:52
Unit193There is also a "fix sudo" page at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo, but that doesn't quite seem to be the problem.21:54
sluckxzi havent asked in #kubuntu yet but i think i will21:55
sluckxzthanks Unit19321:55
sluckxzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qapt/+bug/875657  status confirmed and with canonical dropping 'official' support who knows ;)22:16
ubot2`Launchpad bug 875657 in qapt "Muon: "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:16
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