[04:48] <philipballew> !mount
[04:48] <ubot2`> mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[05:44] <Cheri703> so I'm not a beginner with ubuntu in general, but I'm relatively new to unity: suddenly my chromium icon in the launcher has an oval with a 1 in it, what does this mean?
[05:59] <Unit193> I do not know for sure, but it seems like it would indicate active downloads, and there seems to be indications you can disable or enable some Unity features in about:flags
[06:08] <Cheri703> ahhh, it may have been from a failed download. for some reason it keeps deciding random pages I click on should be downloaded >.<
[06:08] <Cheri703> it vanished and I had no idea why, that makes sense now
[06:09] <Unit193> They've been doing a few updates to be integrated in Unity.
[09:09] <jemoh> Am trying to install a python GUI kit called easy GUI and when I try to install via the terminal this is what I get :
[09:09] <jemoh> jemoh@Hiuhu:~$ sudo python '/home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/setup.py' install
[09:10] <jemoh> [sudo] password for jemoh:
[09:10] <jemoh> running install
[09:10] <jemoh> running build
[09:10] <jemoh> running build_py
[09:10] <jemoh> file easygui.py (for module easygui) not found
[09:10] <jemoh> file easygui.py (for module easygui) not found
[09:10] <jemoh> running install_lib
[09:10] <jemoh> warning: install_lib: 'build/lib.linux-i686-2.6' does not exist -- no Python modules to install
[09:10] <jemoh> running install_egg_info
[09:10] <jemoh> Removing /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info
[09:10] <jemoh> Writing /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info
[09:10] <jemoh> Someone plz help me install it
[09:15] <geirha> Try   cd /home/jemoh/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs/ && sudo python setup.py install
[09:17] <geirha> My guess is, it expects the current dir to be the dir where setup.py is located
[09:19] <jemoh> Yeah I have done ie and this what I get :
[09:19] <jemoh> jemoh@Hiuhu:~/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs$
[09:19] <jemoh> But still it has not installed
[09:20] <jemoh> What else could I be missing ?
[09:22] <geirha> So   sudo python setup.py install   outputs nothing now?
[09:24] <jemoh> This is what it shows :
[09:24] <jemoh> jemoh@Hiuhu:~/Downloads/easygui_version_0.96_docs$ sudo python  setup.py  install
[09:24] <jemoh> running install
[09:24] <jemoh> running build
[09:24] <jemoh> running build_py
[09:24] <jemoh> running install_lib
[09:24] <jemoh> running install_egg_info
[09:24] <jemoh> Removing /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info
[09:24] <jemoh> Writing /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/easygui-0.96.egg-info
[09:24] <jemoh> Still not installed
[09:25] <geirha> find /usr/local/lib -name "easy*.py"
[09:26] <geirha> Looks like it got installed correctly since there's no error messages
[09:27] <jemoh> sorry but what does lib - name mean
[09:28] <jemoh> Oh wait I found it. What should I do next ?
[09:32] <geirha> python -c 'import easygui'
[09:33] <Unit193> !pastebin
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[09:33] <jemoh> This is what I get:
[09:33] <jemoh> jemoh@Hiuhu:~$ python -c 'import easygui'
[09:33] <jemoh> jemoh@Hiuhu:~$
[09:34] <geirha> No import error, so it's working. You can start using it.
[09:34] <jemoh> Where can get the icon toexecute it ?
[09:35] <geirha> Hm? It's not a program, it's a module. You make your own program that utilizes this module...
[09:36] <geirha> http://easygui.sourceforge.net/tutorial/index.html  seems to be its tutorial
[09:36] <jemoh> Ok. pliz give me an example of a GUI program I can use to create programs written in python ?
[09:38] <geirha> An editor like gedit is sufficient, but there are probably some good IDEs too. I have no experience with any though. I just use an editor.
[09:38] <geirha> gedit myprog.py  ... write the first example script of the tutorial, then   python myprog.py  to run it
[09:39] <geirha> jemoh: #python might know of some good IDEs for python programming.
[09:40] <jemoh> And lets say you wanted to make a program that has a user interface but written in python programming language what GUI kit can someone use ?
[09:41] <geirha> I don't know. Maybe someone else here does, but I'm sure you'll find someone who does in #python
[09:42] <jemoh> Ok thanx for your help highly appreciated
[09:44] <jalcine> How about quickly?
[09:47] <jemoh> What do you mean by quickly
[09:48] <jalcine> It's this nifty app in Ubuntu used to write PyGtk apps (afaik).
[09:49] <jalcine> it should be on http://developer.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <jemoh> Thanx jalcine for your help I finally did it
[10:58] <jemoh> I recently installed mysql and now its asking me for a username, password & server name. What should I do to acess the mysql interface ?
[12:48] <scriptwarlock_> ping anyone?
[12:49] <jalcine> scriptwarlock_: thanks for not doing a massive pingfest, lol.
[12:49] <jalcine> What's up?
[12:49] <scriptwarlock_> nah just checking
[12:49] <jalcine> I peek in occasionally.
[12:50] <scriptwarlock_> likewise
[12:51] <hobgoblin> lol
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[15:29] <nlsthzn> installed ubuntu, and right after updates and a restart my monitor is going out of range... how can I force my install to a certain resolution from grub or a recovery console?
[16:56] <sandjkirkland> I am having issues with ubuntu oneric to where at random the computer freezes and the monitor goes white
[17:00] <holstein> sandjkirkland: is this something that just started happening? did it used to work? was it after an upgrade? when booting, hold down the shift key, see if you se an older kernel there to try and boot into
[17:02] <sandjkirkland> it happened also with the previous version.  The other kernel I used a disk.  I upgraded to oneiric
[17:03] <holstein> what happened?
[17:03] <holstein> it cam *not* working out of the box? or it worked for a while and boke?
[17:03] <holstein> broke*
[17:04] <sandjkirkland> holstein - Its been broke, Really has never worked right except for 9.04
[17:06] <holstein> sandjkirkland: if it were my machine, i would run the vesa graphics driver for a bit (if not permanently) and monitor the performance
[17:07] <holstein> i would use something like puppy linux or knoppix live, and i would grab the xorg.conf from in there and paste it into my ubuntu install
[17:08] <holstein> you can try googling around for and xorg, or creating one from scratch, but for me, i like to see the desktop running and grab what i can assume is "known good" and tweak the driver setting from there to vesa or whatever
[17:09] <sandjkirkland> I've used ubuntu for a while but have never jumped into programming. I'm going to need to be guided through it
[17:10] <holstein> its not really "programming" at all
[17:10] <holstein> there used to be a file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. that was back in the 9.04 days
[17:10] <holstein> if you put one there, the more recetn ones are going to read/use it
[17:11] <holstein> you can also just bott a live CD, and use "safe graphics mode" or "no mode set" and test like that
[17:11] <holstein> or, using puppy, you get a setup wizzard at boot... you could boot it up using xorg... test, them boot it up with vesa and test
[17:12] <sandjkirkland> The strange thing is, its just so random. I can goes days without problems and sometimes its like 4 or 5 times in one day
[17:12] <holstein> sandjkirkland: i feel like the graphics card driver is the issue, and i cant really say without further troubleshooting
[17:13] <holstein> if you're looking for a "go here and do this and all will be well" solution, you'll need to provide more information on what the graphics card is
[17:13] <sandjkirkland> hang on, checking
[17:13] <holstein> and i will take that information and search around for bugs or whatever and help in the forums
[17:13] <holstein> i can only point you in the direction of what to do
[17:14] <holstein> and regardless of the graphics card, running the vesa driver as a test is a good troubleshoting step
[17:14] <holstein> it takes the graphics card driver out of the equation
[17:14] <holstein> if you can run stable with the vesa driver, then you *know* its something with the driver
[17:15] <holstein> you can then, either, as i suggested, just use the vesa driver, or look for another driver provided by the manuafcturer
[17:15] <holstein> typically, *if* drivers can be provided, they are... theres nothing about linux/ubuntu that *doesnt* allow you device manufacturer to provide you a driver that works
[17:16] <holstein> but, there are thing that manufacturer can do that makes it near impossible for *anyone* else to provide you a linux driver that'll support that device
[17:16] <holstein> im not saying thats where you are, or thats what the issue is... im just speaking from experience as to what i typically find is the issue when i see that behavior
[17:17] <sandjkirkland> computer is an hp with amd 64 bit grapphics card original ati radeon express 200
[17:18] <sandjkirkland> 64 bit processer
[17:18] <sandjkirkland> not 64 bit graphics card, types that one wrong
[17:19] <holstein> sandjkirkland: open a terminal and run lspci
[17:19] <holstein> then...
[17:19] <holstein> !paste | sandjkirkland
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[17:20] <holstein> OR, try one of the above methods of using the vesa graphics driver... use it, monitor, and report :)
[17:22] <sandjkirkland> got report hang on, posting
[17:23] <holstein> well, what you have is the lspci output, the report im talking about will be like "i have been using the vesa driver for 4 hours and...)
[17:23] <holstein> but, thats a good start :)
[17:23] <sandjkirkland> http://paste.ubuntu.com/871761/
[17:29] <holstein> sandjkirkland: do me a favour... run in a terminal lspci -v ...then do the same pastebin
[17:32] <sandjkirkland> http://paste.ubuntu.com/871776/
[17:32] <holstein> sandjkirkland: you see 	Kernel modules: ati-agp
[17:32] <holstein> thats what im talking about.. thats one option, there are others, and the vesa driver is *always* a good troubleshooting step
[17:33] <holstein> you can reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI as well
[17:35] <sandjkirkland> how did you say to install vesa
[17:38] <holstein> sandjkirkland: its not about installing it.. its about using the vesa driver thats *already* there
[17:38] <holstein> but, i would work where you are comfortable
[17:39] <holstein> i suggest, get a PUPPY linux live cd... theres a wizard that i mentioned earlier... when you boot up, you choose the different drivers, and test
[17:39] <holstein> OR, you can grab that xorg.conf from there, copy it into your ubuntu install in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:40] <holstein> from there you can try to specify different drivers
[17:40] <holstein> OR, you can reference that link i gave and consider installing another ATI driver
[17:41] <holstein> OR, try the 12.04 daily live CD images and see if the support is better there for your hardware (though i likely doubt that)
[17:42] <sandjkirkland> so I have quite a few options, that's good.
[17:42] <holstein> sure
[17:42] <holstein> buying other hardware is an option even ;)
[17:42] <holstein> running 9.04 is an option
[17:43] <holstein> trying different kernels.. whatever .. you'll need to either *really* search around for someone with that hardware to give you first hand advice, or just troubleshoot
[17:44] <holstein> for me, with problematic hardware like that, i usually get live CD's and try them.. its an easy way to test different kernel versions and drivers quickly
[17:45] <holstein> in my "toolkit" or whatever i typically have the latest ubuntu LTS (which is 10.04 now) and the upcoming version (which is 12.04) and maybe a gparted live and a knoppix or a puppy
[17:45] <holstein> something i know will "just work" on most anything
[17:47] <sandjkirkland> alright, thanks for your help.
[17:48] <holstein> sure.. good luck sandjkirkland .. it can be frustrating dealing with issues like that, but try different kernels and drivers out, and i think you'll find it :)
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[20:26] <johnny77> I am trying to create a Ubuntu install USB. The check sum is coming out right; I'm using unetbootin to make usb; I've tried it on two computer; both see the flash drive after booting, but neither will boot the flash drive; gives a operating system missing error.
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[21:27] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[21:27] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, yo
[21:27] <kristian-aalborg> anybody got experience with unpaper?
[21:28] <nothingspecial> whoops :)
[21:29] <kristian-aalborg> http://i.imgur.com/ySGNJ.gif
[21:30] <kristian-aalborg> looking for a method of fixing a bunch of these pictures before turning them into a pdf
[21:30] <kristian-aalborg> so they get rotated properly and lose the white border...
[21:36] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: hey!
[21:49] <sluckxz> why would sudo work fine in konsole but not graphically in muon?
[21:49] <Unit193> Generally you're supposed to use...
[21:49] <Unit193> !gksudo
[21:49] <ubot2`> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:51] <sluckxz> i mean that sudo apt-get update works fine in konsole but using muon fails when it asks for sudo permissions with an authentication error.
[21:51] <sluckxz> "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[21:52] <sluckxz> seems like maybe kdesu or something is broke as all graphical requests to elevate permissions are apparently failing.
[21:54] <Unit193> There is also a "fix sudo" page at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo, but that doesn't quite seem to be the problem.
[21:55] <sluckxz> i havent asked in #kubuntu yet but i think i will
[21:55] <sluckxz> thanks Unit193
[22:16] <sluckxz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qapt/+bug/875657  status confirmed and with canonical dropping 'official' support who knows ;)
[22:16] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 875657 in qapt "Muon: "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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