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cprofittnight all03:18
bkerensaomg there is linux documentary on netflix03:23
dholbachgood morning07:54
* jussi waves08:11
jussiwb dholbach08:11
dholbachgar, compiz/unity ate my mouse-clicks/keyboard interaction08:12
jussiouch08:17
jussiI should probably give unity another try at some point - maybe after release08:17
jussioh btw, for those in my circles, I added some photos from the christening08:18
czajkowskijussi: cute09:11
jussiczajkowski: thnks!09:12
czajkowskimhall119: shout when you're about please12:03
czajkowskithanks12:03
mhall119czajkowski: give me about an hour12:38
czajkowskimhall119: let me pm you and you can come back to me when ever12:38
dakerhaha dholbach http://youtu.be/vKsx2KJ0Xb0 :D12:46
nigelbjcastro: Ha! I didn't realize you knew dcamp :)13:01
czajkowskidholbach: when is the release date want to add release party to the directory so teams can start to add13:05
dholbachdaker,  :-))13:10
dholbachczajkowski, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule - 26th April13:10
czajkowskidholbach: grand job thanks13:12
czajkowskimhall119: have filled in all the details yet am not getting any error as to why the global event is not being created :/13:13
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dholbachhuats, I'll mark your "advertise initiative" d-a-t work items as done15:12
dholbachhuats, I think we're quite well-staffed right now15:12
czajkowskirelease part created for precise on the LTP15:13
czajkowski*party15:13
czajkowskicouldnt see the oneiric one15:14
czajkowskiwhich was odd15:14
dholbachdpm, one for you: https://twitter.com/#!/paglia_s/statuses/177044781485146112 :)15:22
dpmdholbach, replied, thanks ;)15:24
popeyhey guys... we need some testing!15:24
dholbachthank YOU15:24
popeyhttp://popey.com/blog/2012/03/06/improved-unity-files-lens-call-for-testing/15:24
popeyreally easy to test, and much needed improvement15:24
czajkowskipopey: as you wrote a nbice blog post15:29
czajkowskiwill do some testing for you now15:29
popeythanks15:31
czajkowskijust waiting on latest updates15:32
jonohey folks15:33
jonopopey, btw, if you want things testing, you should chat to balloons15:35
jonohe can help15:35
czajkowskijono: maidin maith15:35
jonoczajkowski, eh?15:36
czajkowskijono: good morning in irish :)15:36
jussihehe15:36
jussihi czajkowski15:36
czajkowskidhia dhuit jussi  :)15:36
jussiand jono, popey, dholbach, dpm :)15:37
popeyjono: cool, thanks15:37
dpmhey jussi15:37
popeywe have some more coming up on friday15:37
popeybut this will be pretty intense15:37
popeyusing checkbox-unity takes about 2 hours to fully test everything manually15:37
jussiczajkowski: google gives me weird translation for that... what does it mean?15:37
jonohey jussi15:38
jonopopey, yeah, balloons can help with more focused checkbox testing as well; just wanted to let you know if you need some help15:38
czajkowskijussi: either god be with you or another way of saying hi15:41
jussiczajkowski: hehe, ok, thanks. google had "you god" :D15:41
jussihttp://translate.google.com/#auto|fi|dhia%20dhuit%0A15:41
czajkowskipopey: if this reboot dowesnt work after installing the lense I shall come and hunt you down :)15:42
czajkowskibbiab15:42
czajkowskiback15:44
czajkowskipopey: daft question time15:44
czajkowskiis there a way to remove your history in a lens15:44
czajkowskiI dont want to keep seeing all the old pics I opened up nor the movies I've watched15:45
popeyopen new stuff ☺15:45
popeyit will push the old stuff out15:45
czajkowskiyes but I like a clean area to work with15:45
czajkowskiperhaps my ocd :/15:45
czajkowskiit's not blank15:45
popeythat kinda goes against the whole point of zeitgeist15:45
popeyto find stuff you've opened15:45
popeyanyway, system settings -> privacy15:46
popeyhas an option to delete history15:46
czajkowskiahhhhh15:46
czajkowskigenius15:46
czajkowskicheers15:46
czajkowskialso hands up in here who cares about blueprints they are the owner of or asignee of more than 2 cycles ago ?15:46
cjohnstonnot all BPs use cycles... would be my only concern15:48
jussiczajkowski: what cjohnston said.15:48
czajkowskihmm ok15:50
czajkowskidiscussion in launchpad-dev15:50
czajkowskicjohnston: mind if i copy you comment in there please?15:50
cjohnstonthats fine15:50
jonodholbach, dpm, mhall119, balloons, jcastro meeting in 615:54
dholbachyep15:54
jcastroyeaaaaaap!15:54
* mhall119 is finishing his list15:55
czajkowskijono: should your name be still down there as a contact re issues with cds. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds15:55
jonoczajkowski, no15:55
jonoczajkowski, it should be Jas15:55
czajkowskigrand15:56
czajkowskijust mailing jher now to update the page15:56
jonothanks czajkowski!15:56
cprofittnice catch czajkowski15:56
czajkowskias they annoucment for applying for cds should be going out soon15:56
czajkowskiI'll be in there tomorow and helping her go through stuff as she's not done it before15:56
cprofitthey JanC15:57
balloonsfiling a bug.. :-)15:58
jonoalrighty16:00
jono#startmeeting16:00
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jonoladies and gentleman...boys and girls...it is the Community Team meeting!16:00
* cprofitt cheers16:01
jonohere you can here what the Canonical Community Team, dholbach, balloons, jcastro, mhall119, dpm, and myself have been up to16:01
jonofeel free to ask questions throughout the meeting16:01
jonoup first...16:01
snap-lwhat is Ubuntu? :)16:01
* mhall119 wonders what our titles will be this week16:01
jonosnap-l, it is like Linux Mint16:01
jono;-)16:01
jono...a man of unquestionable grandeur...dpm!16:01
mhall119that's it, I'm switching to Ubuntu!16:02
jonomhall119, lol16:02
* dholbach hugs mhall11916:02
snap-lCool. /me waits for Ubuntu pillow mint edition16:02
dpmhey all!16:02
dpmhere we go:16:02
dpmApp developers16:02
dpm* Kept working with mhall119 on the unity documentation, basically reviewing existing docs and setting up the pages and sections on d.u.c16:03
dpm* Ported the Unity Launcher documentation from the wiki to d.u.c with minor modifications16:03
dpm* Call with mhall, Kevin Wright and Zoltan to discuss API documentation and Unity on d.u.c16:03
dpm* Sent a reminder to Marco Ceppi about the work he wanted to do to add a feed of Askubuntu questions to d.u.c16:03
dpm* After answering an Askubuntu question on AppIndicators, I noticed the API docs on d.u.c were missing the GTK3 bindings: updated them on d.u.c and updated the coding example on the wiki16:03
dpm* Got a list of Oneiric backports with help from dholbach16:04
dpm* Provided suggestions to dpitkin for the promoted apps in March, including backports16:04
dpmTranslators16:04
dpm* Handled community communication for knitzsche for the Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop16:04
dpm* Made sure all was clear and all questions answered on both sides16:05
dpm* Provided community reviewer candidates to knitzsche16:05
dpm* Triggered recording translation activity in the stats test site in preparation for the UGJ as an experiment: http://91.189.93.77/stats/precise/ - it seemed to work well and you can see the great work translators did over the weekend :)16:05
dpm* Provided feedback for a bunch of User Interface freeze exceptions affecting translations16:06
dpmLoCo teams16:06
dpm* Interviewed LoCo team leaders and blogged about the Slovenian and Catalan UGJ events16:06
dpm* Had chats with the Asturian LoCo team to add their UGJ event, which they finally did16:06
dpmOther16:07
dpm* Had a rocking UGJ in Barcelona :)16:07
dpmthat's me. Any questions?16:07
jonothanks dpm16:08
jonono questions?16:08
jcastrolooks jawesome dpm!16:08
dpm:)16:09
dpmjcastro, how can I best reach Marco? ^^16:09
mhall119dpm: have a good jam?16:09
dpmmhall119, it was great, I'll be blogging about it soon16:09
jcastrodpm:  he idles in here sometimes16:09
mhall119dpm: what did you guys do?16:09
jcastroI'll ping him now16:09
dpmmhall119, mainly translations. We wanted to do bug triaging, but we couldn't do everything16:09
mhall119cool16:10
dpmand we had a guided tour around the area from the people from the venue :)16:10
jonocool :-)16:10
mhall119around the venue?16:10
dpmlol16:10
jonothanks dpm16:11
jono...alrighty, next up...our very own deadmau5.....now known livehamst3r...dholbach!16:11
mhall119lol16:11
mhall119you  should /nick to that16:11
* dholbach was not available for comment16:11
jonohah16:11
dpmdefinitely16:11
dholbach ☺ Dev initiatives: started putting process document together, including checklist for events. Planned FixIt Friday which coincides with UGJ, blogged about it, started propaganda. Had a great FixIt Friday, with lots of interest and blogged about it. Planning public Hangouts beforehand next time.16:11
balloonsmhall119, has done it again...16:11
dholbach ☺ Dev Advisory Team: invited a number of people to the team, was lucky enough to be able to recruit Andrea Colangelo, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio and Evan Broder to the team. Followed up with many many many contributors, collected feedback, helped four folks with their dev application. Had a call with huats, helped the new team on board. More team organisation, team mailing list.16:11
jonoI like the smilies16:12
dholbach ☺ Dev News: got a new update out there.16:12
jonoso holbachian...16:12
dholbach ☺ Sponsoring: put together list of folks who don't sponsor. Went through the queue and chased people according to their area of expertise to please help out. Fixed a crash in the Sponsoring Overview script, just to find out that Evan Broder had fixed this and his fix wasn't merged yet. Also fixed a bug in the Sponsoring Statistics (some email addresses contained "=\n" (ugh!).16:12
dholbach ☺ Dev Docs: merged more fixes from Andrew Starr-Bochicchio, pushed some initial work on i18n to LP - I won't have time to finish it in the next weeks.16:12
dholbach ☺ Some discussions with Desktop team folks about how to better organise initiatives for new contributors.16:12
dholbach ☺ GSoC: helped some interested folks with questions about mentoring organisations.16:12
dholbach ☺ Talked with mhall119 about using edit-patch for package maintenance.16:13
dholbach ☺ Debugged checkbox-app-testing packaging with balloons.16:13
dholbachThat's it.16:13
jonoany questions for dholbach?16:14
czajkowskinope16:15
dholbachI love trello - it's really good stuff.16:15
czajkowskihe's well busy!16:15
jcastroI like the sad faces16:15
dpmdholbach, what's the current status of GSoC? Do we have an application for Ubuntu already?16:15
mhall119"talked with" is putting it mildly16:15
dholbachmhall119, we all love understatement :)16:15
balloonsdholbach, on GSoC btw.. I have someone interested :-)16:15
czajkowskijono: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1598/detail/  is created go fort and tweet :)16:15
mhall119dholbach: now that's a bit of an exaggeration16:15
dholbachballoons, we need contacts for mentoring organisation16:15
jonoczajkowski, awesome, thanks!16:16
czajkowskinp16:16
jonocool16:16
czajkowskimail sent to team contacts16:16
dholbachthere's a some folks interested, but it needs some more coordination16:16
dholbachthe deadline is Friday16:16
dholbachoh, and some great feedback we got about the d-a-t was:16:16
dholbach"emails like this make me even happier about what I do for Ubuntu"16:16
dholbachand16:16
dholbach"The email you sent just proves that I made the right decision about going Ubuntu all the way. You guys are an awesome bunch and I am glad I can be a small part of it."16:16
dholbachwhich is super-encouraging :)16:17
jononice!16:17
jonowe always love to see things like that :-)16:17
jonokeep on rocking in the free world :-)16:17
jcastro\o/16:17
jonoalrighty...the man...the legend...the weird-fizzy-lemon-stuff-that-he-drinks....jcastro!16:17
dholbachdpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2012 is the application being put together16:17
jcastroAlright!16:17
jcastro## Jorge's Last Week Summary Extravaganza16:17
jcastroThis weeks soundtrack brought to you by deadmau5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ6PZ3iBbMc16:17
jcastroaka, daniel16:17
jonolulz16:18
jcastro## juju16:18
balloonsdeadmau5 again?16:18
balloonslol16:18
jcastro- 2 new charms from the legend George Edison, LodgeIt (pastebin) and StackMobile.16:18
jcastro- We now are up to 54 officially supported charms, just shy of 100 total.16:18
jono\m/16:18
jcastro(note, last week was Metallica, this week is deadmau5, gotta mix it up)16:18
jcastro- Les Orchard has started work on a charm for the Firefox Sync Server. This would allow you to easily run your own sync server for use with Firefox.16:18
dholbachguys... would I say something like this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadmau5#Comment_about_DJs ? :)16:18
jcastro- Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman has started work on the PHP Symfony framework.16:18
jcastrothat's ejat btw ^^16:18
jcastro- James Mitchell modified a bunch of charms to use for his work deployments and talked about it on this post to the mailing list.16:18
jcastro- Juan Negron is working on a charm for distcc so you can easily deploy a compile farm.16:19
jcastro- New incoming moin charm, integrated with nginx too, quite slick.16:19
jcastro^^ this one is shiny, just landed yesterday16:19
jcastro- All this activity is because of the Charm Contest we are running: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-contest-help-bring-free-software-into-the-cloud/16:19
jcastro- Webinar this Thursday folks! http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-school-webinar-march-8th/16:19
jcastro- Charm store CLI UI lands RSN, then all this will make better sense when you can actually use it, bear with me!16:19
jcastro- Call with the comms team so we can have nice juju handouts for events.16:19
jcastroany juju questions?16:19
jcastrook moving on16:20
jcastro## Other16:20
jcastro- Forum upgrade blocking on IS sourcing hard drives. Yes, floods. Pain in the neck, they're shuffling things around trying to figure it out though16:20
jcastro- Found out cloud.ubuntu.com was not using rel="canonical" tags for syndication, effectively burying the portal in search results everytime we posted. FIXED thanks to a plugin update from IS.16:20
jcastro^ embarrassing16:20
jcastro- Partial jam with the Floridians on Friday, interview with Craig, didn't have time to interview Mexico, I'll have to make it up to them for release party time.16:20
jcastro- Linked up Ask Ubuntu engineer guy with our SSO guy so they can migrate from Launchpad SSO to Ubuntu SSO.16:20
jcastro- Found a "solution" to bluetooth audio, the results are loltastic, posted to -devel to get it on someone's radar. I hate UNIX: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-March/034902.html16:20
jcastro- My TODO for Juju: https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b0116:21
jcastro- My TODO for Other: https://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab116:21
jcastro- ^^^ If there is stuff you need me to do that is not on there let me know.16:21
jcastro- Are you not entertained?!?! Questions?16:21
* jcastro dances to more deadmau516:21
balloonsdid you not mention the juju contest?16:21
balloonsI know it's been going on for awhile, but I just noticed it :-)16:21
mhall119"partial jam" means he was on G+ for a little while before he walked out of the room and forgot about us :(16:21
jcastronot true16:22
balloonsmhall119, +116:22
jcastroI'd like to see how motivated you stay looking at the back of chris' head all day. :)16:22
jcastroballoons: yeah, it's been on a week16:22
mhall119but it's so shiny16:22
jcastro3 new charms are already in the store16:22
jcastroand the other ones are incoming16:22
dpmjcastro, what's this "rel="canonical" tags for syndication" thing exactly?16:23
jcastrowe consider entries in the contest only after they are submitted and pass review so they can be used by people.16:23
jcastrodpm: ok so16:23
jcastrowhen you make duplicate content on the web16:23
jcastrolike, syndicate16:23
jcastrogoogle doesn't like that16:23
jcastroit's what spammers do to steal content16:23
jcastroso they have a tag that you're supposed to use16:23
jcastrothat basically says "I am using this content, but here is the canonical source"16:23
jcastrowe weren't doing that, but we are now16:24
jcastrowe likely need to make sure planet is doing it too.16:24
mhall119jcastro: can you email me that info?  It probably needs to be on the loco.u.c blog feed too16:24
dpmyeah, same for d.u.c, we should follow up after the meeting16:24
mhall119or better yet, file a bug against loco-team-portal for it16:24
jcastroI know this because I follow "canonical" on twitter. So I ended up learning about canonical tags, canonical the company, and the bible.16:25
jcastromhall119: also I think at some higher level we need to be smarter about SEO16:25
jcastroif you just copy things around it can be bad.16:25
jonocool16:25
jonoanything else jcastro?16:25
jcastrook done!16:25
jonoany further questions for jcastro?16:25
jonoalrighty...step back and prepare for a solid dose of....wait for it....mhall119!16:26
mhall119alright16:27
mhall119* Got SUMO back up and running (and running properly in Apache this time)16:27
mhall119* Added list of Global Jam activities to the dashboard on loco.u.c16:27
mhall119^^ I'd be interested to know if any teams used that list16:27
mhall119I know we had at least one team doing Quicklists/Keywords, but not sure if they got it from there or not16:28
mhall119* Hung out with the best LoCo Team around16:28
mhall119with some pretty epic cupcakes too, thanks again for bringing those balloons16:28
mhall119* Taught cjohnston how to debug in python, so that he's now a python guru available to help anybody who needs it16:28
cjohnstonand now needs to review code16:29
mhall119yes, he needs to review code too16:29
cjohnstoni cant review my own code16:29
cjohnstonmhall119 needs to review code16:29
mhall119* Worked on getting updates on the status of Unity documentation for dpm16:29
mhall119* Discussed other Unity/Ubuntu doc work being done with Kevin Wright16:29
mhall119* Learned how to use edit-patch with the help of dholbach16:30
mhall119* Found and fixed a bug in edit-patch that was preventing me from using it properly for geany16:30
mhall119* Inadvertently learned how to use quilt16:30
mhall119* Figured out how to submit the edit-patch fix upstream to Debian16:31
* dholbach hugs mhall11916:31
mhall119^^ And as far as contributor on-ramp goes, ours is definitely smoother16:31
balloons:-)16:31
mhall119* Blogged about the community authors and work happening on Quicklists and Keywords16:31
dholbachthat's perseverance16:31
mhall119* Updated submitted Quicklist branches with instructions for fixing and upstreaming their changes16:32
mhall119* Helped contributors getting their submissions upstream, fostering conversation between them and the upstream developers16:32
mhall119^^ again, as far as welcoming new contributors, we're doing pretty good in comparison to some16:32
mhall119* Helped jono get the community-developed ubuntu django theme integrated with his accomplishments webapp16:33
mhall119* Got quickly-unity-templates uploaded (waiting on final review)16:33
mhall119* Got the new uds.ubuntu.com theme/content merged with uds-project on Launchpad16:33
mhall119that's it for me16:34
jonothanks mhall119 :-)16:34
jonoany questions for mhall119 ?16:34
jonoalrighty...kneel and bow to the QA master...balloons!16:35
balloonsnice..16:36
mhall119not likely, sorry balloons16:36
* balloons thinks jono gets better every week16:36
jonolol16:36
* cjohnston thinks balloons sucks up to jono 16:36
balloonsok, if I have to follow jcastro I'll one up with a 11 min song :-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BjSCO05pW416:36
balloonsfor the updates16:36
balloonscheckbox checkbox checkbox! Last week was all checkbox all the time :-) The precise beta1 release happened and we got out the call for some manual application testing using checkbox. It's been a great response so far. We've had several developers including the people in ubuntu responsible for gwibber, libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird, orca and more helping contribute.16:36
mhall119orca testing? finally16:37
balloonso yea :-)16:37
balloonsIn addition, the community QA members have helped contribute tests for shotwell, gedit, firefox, rythmnbox and more! Thanks to everyone who helped contribute. Special thanks to roignac who has seen something like 6 or 8 merge requests go in! Rock on!16:37
balloonsAlanBell rocked out those orca tests btw.. glad to see it got some <3 ;-)16:38
mhall119AlanBell rocks16:38
balloonsLast Friday, the call for running the tests came out, and thus far we've had 19 people there results into launchpad for everyone to see. I'm still working on parsing the data, but we've already had a bug found in eog as part of the testing fixed.16:38
balloonsIf you haven't yet had a chance to participate, but wanted to, it's not too late. Check out the wiki on how to run the tests -- http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases. Then submit your results. As always thanks for testing.16:38
balloonsI also had the luxury of meeting the ubuntuone QA folks last week and discovered they are also looking into case conductor. We are now coordinating efforts in possibly adopting this tool.16:39
balloonsHad a wonderful jam session with svwilliams, mhall and cjohnston and cjohnston's house. Some good work on the loco portal occurred, as well as a bit of work on summit. I got to learn more about packaging and using bzr; including setting up an environment. FInally, mhall showed us show python web debugging :-)16:40
balloonsI also should mention I wanted to, but mostly resisted making everyone listen to Bob Marley for the entire event... it may have snuck in there at some point.. I can't be responsible for such slips...16:40
balloonsWe also put out a call last week for unity 5.6 testing, as well as wubi testing. Unity 5.6 testing has also gone well, and in general seemed to be a smoother experience on everyone than unity 5.4 :-) I expect didrocks will blog about more updates on that soon.16:41
jonolol16:41
mhall119we be jammin16:41
* balloons thinks marley should have sponsered this session now ;-)16:42
mhall119too late to turn back now, you're committed16:42
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balloonsOn the wubi testing, we got some people hooked up with Steve Langsek and I hope they will help fasttrack that testing process16:42
balloonswubi testing is not easy.. +1 to those guys16:42
balloonsAlso during UGJ. Cupcakes! I hope everyone got to feast there eyes on the cupcakes mhall, svwilliams, cjohnston and myself enjoyed during global jam. Others *cough* jcastro *cough* weren't able to enjoy them.16:43
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cjohnstonhehehe16:43
balloonsFinally, looking forward to the future, for beta2, checkbox app testing will be expanding, adding more tests, migrating (fingers crossed!) to checkbox-qt, and doing some fancier reporting :-)16:43
balloonsQuestions? Concerns? Thoughts on jammin'?16:44
balloonsYes I was totally cooler than jcastro...16:44
jcastro\o/16:44
mhall119for those who missed the cupcakes: http://ubuntuone.com/15nClPfOMixOzysVmPzAsb16:44
jcastrothis song is awesome16:44
jcastroalso I can't really eat cupcakes anyway16:44
jcastroso either way I miss out!16:44
jonolol16:45
jonooh...the cupcakes...16:45
balloonslol jcastro :-) I know.. perhaps it was for the best16:45
mhall119it wasn't16:45
mhall119http://ubuntuone.com/2Uncqei1c1V6DkfLFZ8L0R16:45
balloons^^ epic!16:46
jonohaha16:46
mhall119side note, but isn't publishing files and getting a URL from the context meny of Nautilus not just one of the most awesome features ever?16:46
jonomhall119, indeed16:47
jonoany thing else balloons?16:47
balloonsthat's be it16:47
jonothanks balloons16:47
* balloons is confused at his own grammar there16:47
jonoalright, I am up next16:47
jono * General:16:47
jono  - Burndown looking good; progress is being made. :-)16:47
jono  - Did a full review of our work and things are looking good.16:48
jono * App Devs:16:48
jono  - Coordinating work to get Unity docs online on developer.ubuntu.com. They will be online this week.16:48
jono  - Good progress on upstream targets work. Thanks mhall119.16:48
jono  - Discussing next steps with dpm around the idea of making app development more "social".16:48
jono * Developers:16:48
jono  - Defining the on-ramp processes for the Developer Advisory Board to help the flow of developers.16:48
jono  - This includes ensuring we have a set of deadlines building up to DMB meetings. This should result in high efficiency for our developer growth.16:49
jono  - Cracking the whip on the engineering teams around the sponsorship queue.16:49
jono * Juju:16:49
jono  - Good progress being made. Charming is growing.16:49
jono  - Putting in place some of the brainstorm ideas discussed with Jorge.16:49
jono  - Coordinating Juju/summit at Linux Plumbers.16:49
jono * Upstreams:16:49
jono  - Discussion with the Desktop Team to flesh out a better workflow for upstream contributions (e.g. Quicklists) to ensure they fit their workflow and process.16:50
jono  - Review of the upstreams target list.16:50
jono  - Discussed next steps around Quicklists and SVG icons.16:50
jono  - Worked with Mike to define expectations around docs on developer.ubuntu.com. Thanks to dpm for helping with this.16:50
jono * QA:16:50
jono  - Lots of prep and discussion getting ready for the Beta1 testing. balloons did an awesome job here.16:50
jono  - Beta1 was released. The response seems generally very positive.16:50
jono  - Synced up with the Desktop Team around some small issues to ensure they were triaged.16:50
jono * UDS:16:50
jono  - UDS sponsorships have been chosen. Applicants should get notifications soon (if not already).16:51
jono  - Started kicking off the planning.16:51
jono  - Reviewed new website work: looks great!16:51
jono * LoCo Teams:16:51
jono  - Lots of Ubuntu Global Jam outreach.16:51
jono  - Ran an Ubuntu Global jam locally - had a great time!16:51
jono  - Discussions with Comms Team regarding a LoCo competition.16:51
jono * Translations:16:51
jono  - Helping to coordinate dpm's time with OEM needs.16:52
jono * Ubuntu Accomplishments:16:52
jono  - We now have a mailing list - join at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-accomplishments-contributors16:52
jonoplease join and participate :-)16:52
jono  - Making good progress: the code-base is far more structured now.16:52
jono  - Starting to dig through the bugs list.16:52
jono  - Started building a web front-end for editing accomplishments in Django. We need volunteers for this if you want to help. :-)16:52
jono * Other:16:52
jono  - Lots of continued 12.04 testing.16:53
jono  - Discussing some release planning elements around 12.10.16:53
jono  - Started putting the wheels in motion for our 12.10 roadmap.16:53
mhall119what activitied did your loco team do for UGJ?/w 4316:53
mhall119ignore the irssi bit at the end16:53
jonomhall119, we did some bug reporting, Juju related content, and I helped show some folks how to participate in some areas16:53
jonowe also discuss the accomplishments work a lot16:53
jono...shocking, I know :-)16:54
mhall119heh16:54
jono  - Further work on the 'I Make Ubuntu' branding ideas; working with Marcus around the imagery.16:54
mhall119cool16:54
jono  - Interview with Amber Graner - thanks, akgraner! See it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAH-8yq2EEk16:54
jonoand that's it :-)16:54
jonoany questions?16:54
mhall119jono: will the "I Make Ubuntu" branding be used during UDS?16:54
mhall119like on the shirts16:54
jonomhall119, not sure yet16:54
jonowe are just discussing some designs16:54
mhall119ok16:54
jonoI hope it can be ready in time :-)16:55
jcastro"I make Ubuntu, cupcakes"16:55
jonoheh16:55
jcastro"Stop clubbing, baby seals!"16:55
mhall119I've been casually dropping the phrase16:55
jono:-)16:55
mhall119like on http://mhall119.com/2012/03/faces-of-ubuntu-the-non-developers/16:56
jonook, so I think we are all done16:56
jonomhall119, awesome post16:56
jono:-)16:56
mhall119oh, one update for me16:56
jonosure16:56
mhall119david calle's graphic design lens, the first to go through the ARB's new process for lenses and scopes, was put up for a vote last night16:56
jonocool16:56
mhall119I've also shared my existing list of lenses with wendar so she knows what's in store16:57
jonocool :-)16:57
jcastroJES, more lenses!16:57
jonocool16:57
jonoright, let's wrap it16:58
jonothanks everyone!16:58
mhall119<christopher_walkin>I gotta have more lenses!</christopher_walkin>16:58
sandjkirklandis this the right channel to ask for help with kernel crashes for oneiric16:58
cjohnstonsandjkirkland: try #ubuntu16:58
jonosandjkirkland, #ubuntu-kernel16:58
jono#endmeeting16:58
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar  6 16:58:26 2012 UTC.16:58
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sandjkirklandthanks16:58
dholbachbrb16:59
akgranerjono - you're welcome - I've already asked your team when they have some time :-)  (I've noted their ever-changing titles for the occasion)17:04
cprofittjono: great interview with akgraner by the way17:05
czajkowskijono: where do people file bugs re the accomplishments?17:15
czajkowskijono: disregard that found it17:18
s-foxHello everyone, hope we're all well17:23
cprofitthey s-fox; hope you are well too.17:23
cprofittlong time no see.17:23
s-foxI saw you yesterday cprofitt, I was just a little busy ;)  Haha.  I'm good thank you. I think last time we spoke my health wasn't that great :D  How are you doing ?17:24
jonothanks akgraner, cprofitt :-)17:32
s-foxGot to say, really digging launchpad at the minute :D Getting into the bug swing of things17:34
czajkowski:)17:34
cprofitts-fox: I am doing fairly well...17:34
czajkowskiactually a lotta folks must have used lp at the weekend to report bugs, but didt report bugs logged questions, had a field dau re tagging them on monday17:34
cprofittlooking at askubuntu.com right now...17:35
s-foxWe've created a bug / request for the forum and lots of people are saying it affects them too. We're up to 32 people and 176 heat17:35
czajkowskimaybe for future jams we could mentions lp questions, and tell people nice way to start off if they are unsure of logging and triaging bugs17:35
czajkowskis-fox: oh the one for the installer?17:35
s-foxYes czajkowski :)17:35
czajkowskis-fox: not sure I'd like a business person to see the forums as a way to go for support17:36
s-foxWhy?17:36
czajkowskis-fox: trying to find answers on the forums can be rather hard, page and pages to dive through in some cases17:37
s-foxMaybe, but I would counter that by saying it is very easy to ask a question and get an answer with up to date  information and a solution for your specific hardware set.17:38
s-foxAnyway, my point about launchpad being great still stands, I like the measurable community interest.17:39
czajkowskinods17:39
cprofittyeah, I think askubuntu.com is likely the best resource we hvae for questions17:40
cprofittforums are great for some types of discussions though... and I love the forums tutorials (the ones that get selected)17:41
s-foxI think askubuntu has its merits but some drawbacks.17:41
cprofitts-fox: +1 - it is not perfect17:41
s-foxOne of the general feelings i've seen is "lack of community feeling" - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936163&page=217:42
cprofittI like the fact that answers can get upvoted -- so the 'best' answers get moved to the top17:42
cprofittyeah... it does feel more clinical17:42
cprofittas a Sys Admin I apprecaite that... as an end user that was less technical I would likely prefer the forum17:43
s-foxThe drawback is in the scenario where an answer isn't given in a single post. What if the question evolves? Or has people supplying the first step of a process. Upvoting would move things our of order17:43
s-fox /s/our/out17:43
cprofittyeah, unless things are edited on askubuntu that would be an issue17:43
cprofittit was my understanding that at times answers are merged to make one complete answer17:44
cprofittbut I would imagine that gets missed at times17:44
s-foxDoesn't that take up a lot of time by moderators?17:44
cprofittwell.. its community edited so not sure17:44
s-foxPersonally speaking I would consider that a drawback, in that time is spent editing old posts rather than helping with new questions.17:46
* cprofitt nods17:46
s-foxAs you say, neither a forum or an upvoting platform is perfect.17:46
czajkowskijono: are the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Installing  up to date, running into difficulty at the daemon bit17:47
cprofittyeah.... the person who invents the perfect 'help' resource will be a very appreciated and famous person17:47
s-foxHaha, indeed so cprofitt17:47
s-foxjcastro,  Perhaps I do not understand your terminology but is "noise" on launchpad useless posts with no helpful constructive comments?17:54
jcastroyes17:55
jcastroyou can just click "it affects me"17:55
jcastrowhat would you rather read, "56 people want this" or 56 individual emails?17:55
s-foxI wouldn't want 56 emails saying the same thing, maybe just the one with a summary like "56 people want this"17:56
bodhi_zazenczajkowski: it takes some effort to find a solution, wiki, askubuntu, forums ...17:56
s-foxThank you for clarifying17:56
bodhi_zazenSome questions have no answer17:57
s-fox@ jcastro17:57
meetingologys-fox: Error: "jcastro" is not a valid command.17:57
bodhi_zazenand the forms has many many more members then ask ubuntu17:57
bodhi_zazenOnce askubuntu has as many members and questions as the forms it will look the same17:57
s-fox1.7 million members :D17:57
bodhi_zazenAt any rate, I have been communicating with dylan mccall on the issue and if I can not get resolution will as the FC to refer the issue to the CC17:58
bodhi_zazenThere is no reason to exclude the forums, and in fact excluding the forms as a method of support is both inappropriate and causing friction in the community17:59
czajkowskiyou cna just chang eyour bug mail settings to not see the comments of course17:59
s-foxJust a thought but perhaps if I were an enterprise user I would make use of the paid support offered by Canonical. czajkowski18:00
czajkowskis-fox: yup so seeing the installer might confuse them18:01
czajkowskialso no way I'd send my family to forums, I'd send them to askubuntu first tbh. bit less scary18:01
s-foxBut if I were an enterprise user would I be expected to install the operating system? or if I were then would I expect any place to get support? czajkowski18:02
czajkowskieh/18:02
bodhi_zazenczajkowski: I think you are in the wrong channel, this channel is to build the community, not dis the forums18:04
bodhi_zazenSome people like wiki, some irc, some askubutnu, some LP18:04
bodhi_zazenJust because you have a preference does not give you the right to dis irc, forms, wiki, etc18:05
czajkowskibodhi_zazen: wasnt dissing18:05
bodhi_zazenYes you are18:05
czajkowskiwas just my opinion, not saying one is better over an other at all18:05
czajkowskieveryone has their own way of getting support18:05
bodhi_zazenYou stated you opinion in an offensive mannor18:06
czajkowskiI don't think i did tbh.18:06
czajkowskiif I siad I HATE eating fish that bad18:06
czajkowskibut fair enough18:06
bodhi_zazenI did and I am frankly disappointed , especially in this channel18:06
bodhi_zazenczajkowskialso no way I'd send my family to forums,18:07
czajkowskifair enough, sorry it wasnt meant that way at all18:07
bodhi_zazenThat comment is completely out of line18:07
bodhi_zazendisruptive18:07
bodhi_zazentrolling18:07
czajkowskibodhi_zazen: I've said it wasnt and I said sorry, so why not leave it really.18:07
bodhi_zazencounter productive18:07
bodhi_zazeninsulting18:07
mhall119okay okay, let's everyone stop for a minute18:07
JanCbodhi_zazen: don't exagerate please18:08
dholbachalright my friends - it's dinner time over here18:08
mhall119we're all on the same team here18:08
dholbachsee you tomorrow :)18:08
czajkowskidholbach: nn18:08
dholbachbye :-)18:08
bodhi_zazenPlease do not be disrespectful of the forums, I am on the FC and I spend a lot of time on them18:08
bodhi_zazenJanC: and mhall119 then please speak up when someone is disrespectful of the fourms18:09
mhall119bodhi_zazen: please PM first, I don't believe for a minute that czajkowski would be intentional disrespectful to anybody in the community18:09
bodhi_zazenI have asked the forums staff to be more active in this channel to build the community18:09
s-fox+1 on engaging the community and improving relations.18:10
bodhi_zazenSorry, I am just shocked to see this sort of comment in this channel18:10
mhall119bodhi_zazen: we welcome the forums staff, this is definitely a good place for them to hang out18:10
pleia2bodhi_zazen, s-fox, thanks for all the work you do on the forums (I know it's a lot, particularly right now with the upgrade stuff and security problems), sorry you felt attacked here18:12
s-foxThank you pleia2 .18:12
JanCbodhi_zazen: I'm not sure how "scary" was meant to be understood (if that is what you were referring to)18:12
bodhi_zazenI am referring to:18:13
bodhi_zazenczajkowskialso no way I'd send my family to forums,18:13
bodhi_zazenWe make great effort to keep forums family friendly18:13
bodhi_zazenAnd I am a family man, as anyone who knows me can attest, so yes I find that sort of language insulting18:14
s-foxI came in here and made a positive comment about launchpad and it moves massively off topic. I now feel insulted and disapointed. I bid you all good day.18:18
JanCwell, that phrase might also depend on what her family's computer skills are, or what they are used to (or just the part of the forums she sees most...)18:18
* mhall119 mails s-fox an "I"m sorry" beer18:23
jonohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Installing needs a few small changes18:30
jonoas I landed a big patch last night18:30
jonoczajkowski, do you want to install it?18:30
czajkowskiinstalled it just having issues running daemon18:31
czajkowskion call atm bbiab18:31
akgranerCan a wiki page be created and then made it so only certain people can change the content.    (Well those people with the special wiki powers can right?)18:32
cprofittakgraner: I believe so... I think some of the official documentation is not open to everyone... though I could be wrong18:33
cjohnstonakgraner: can, yes.. will they allow, doesnt seem so18:34
jonoczajkowski, yeah, that was the change18:34
jonoczajkowski, when running the daemon now you need to run the following from the ubuntu-accomplishments-system dir:18:34
akgranercprofitt, cjohnston thanks!18:34
jono./bin/rundaemon.sh18:34
cprofittyw akgraner18:34
cjohnston:-)18:34
cprofitthey cjohnston18:35
cjohnstono/18:35
cprofittI may have a person interested in hacking with you guys18:35
czajkowskijono: cheers18:35
cjohnstoncool18:35
cprofitthe knows Python and Django18:35
cjohnston#ubuntu-website18:35
cprofitthe talked with mhall119 the other night18:35
cjohnstonawesome18:35
jonocprofitt, cool18:36
jonowhat does he want to work on?18:36
jcastrosorry I was on a call18:36
jcastroI guess I missed the whole discussion18:36
cprofittjono: I think he is interested in summit and loco team portal18:37
jonocprofitt, awesome18:37
cprofittyeah... I might have to help him setup bzr... not sure if he knows that18:38
czajkowskijono: http://twitpic.com/8sunwr/full18:42
jonoczajkowski, :-)18:42
mhall119cprofitt: who talked to me?18:43
cprofittbobweaver18:43
jonoczajkowski, just leave the daemon running and your trophies should appear soon18:43
mhall119oh ywah18:43
jonoczajkowski, I see the share was accepted on the server18:43
cprofittthe guy I introduced you to the other night... that wants to code with you guys18:43
mhall119cprofitt: incredible!18:43
mhall119cprofitt: direct him to #ubuntu-website where all the web-devs hang out18:43
cprofittyeah -- we did that the other night18:44
jonoczajkowski, it can take a while for the trophies to appear...I have noticed a small bug that is slowing it down, so just leave it running18:44
mhall119we'll introduce him to daker and nigelb18:44
mhall119even though nigelb only hacks on Mozilla apps now18:44
nigelb:D18:44
jonoczajkowski, also, feel free to file bugs :-)18:44
czajkowskijono: so all the locked ones should unlock at some time then when it notices I've things done18:45
cjohnston]/818:45
jonoczajkowski, yep, if you double click on the them, you can see which other ones need unlocking18:45
jonoczajkowski, can you click File->Check Accomplishments18:46
czajkowskijono: aye that works and adds content to the terminal18:48
jonoahhh here they come18:48
jonoI can see them being validated :-)18:48
jonoczajkowski, you should see the bubbles appear soon18:49
czajkowskioh huzzah18:49
jonoczajkowski, you should then see many of the other accomplishments will be unlocked18:50
czajkowskisweet18:50
czajkowskiwill give it a propper test later on18:50
jonoit might take a sec while U1 syncs them back18:50
jonothanks czajkowski18:50
czajkowskino bother am in the mood to break things :)18:50
jonofeel free to join the mailing list at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-accomplishments-contributors18:50
jonobrb, getting some breakfast18:51
akgranerjono 5 hour energy drinks - breakfast, lunch and dinner of champions  - or the sleep deprived :-P18:54
akgranerDang it - I am going to have to do another re-install - sigh18:54
cprofittlol18:55
cprofittI never thought that stuff worked until I tried it once18:55
akgranercprofitt, I know right :-)18:55
cprofittI was amazed to be honest... with relatives from KY I was taught to believe most of that stuff is snake oil18:56
akgraner:-)18:56
cprofittakgraner: did you see docmo's comment about jono's costume?18:57
akgranernope - where?18:58
akgranersorry head down in wiki page re-org stuff18:58
bkerensaakgraner: Aeroshots are good for energy18:58
akgranerbkerensa, I don't even know what that is18:59
* akgraner googles it18:59
bkerensahttp://www.aeroshots.com/18:59
bkerensathey are inhaler like shots of powdered energy developed by some guy from harvard19:00
* pleia2 goes with "get more sleep"19:00
nigelbhaha19:00
nigelbI think I'll take the "more sleep" road as well.19:00
bkerensathe idea is the powdered caffeine coats the back of your throat which has lots of blood vessels that instantly absorb it19:01
bkerensa:)19:01
bkerensaI will say the taste is epic horrible19:01
bkerensa:(19:01
JanCMDs have a good way to "wake up" for some time...19:01
pleia2I think "taking caffeine as injectable" is part of jono's burnout talk..19:01
pleia2;)19:01
JanCinhale some pure oxygen...19:01
bkerensaindeed19:01
bkerensaOxygen Bars are interesting19:02
JanC(well, "pure"--the stuff thay give patients)19:02
nigelbSo, when you go to high altitude places19:02
nigelbThey have "oxygen bars"19:02
nigelbthey serve you flavored oxygen19:02
nigelbIt is a requirement there btw.19:02
snap-lI never quite understood the point of Oxygen bars. Seemed like they'd melt way too quickly.19:02
akgranerpleia2, yeah - I'd like to pick that option too19:02
akgraner:-)19:02
nigelbsnap-l: well, you breathe it.19:02
jussiOxygen is an awesome theme for kde :P19:02
bkerensaSleep is futile :D19:02
JanCthe problem is, you feel awake, but your body & brain are still tired, with all side effects of that...19:03
nigelbbkerensa: Maybe you should sit in one of ak's burn out talk.19:03
nigelb*akgraner's19:03
bkerensa;p19:03
snap-lnigelb: breathe oxygen? That's dumb. :)19:03
akgranernigelb, :-P19:03
nigelbsnap-l: Not when you're serveral thousand ft above sea level and the oxygen concentration is very low.19:03
snap-lnigelb: You might want to calibrate your humor. I'm messing with you. :)19:04
nigelbdamit19:04
bkerensanigelb: I have not slept well since I was in my teens :P nothing seems to work19:04
nigelbsnap-l: How did I miss that :P19:04
nigelbI should sleep :)19:04
snap-lheh19:04
nigelbbkerensa: Woah. You must be like infinity.19:04
nigelb(Adam, he works for Canonical)19:05
nigelbsnap-l: http://twicsy.com/i/hZ4uM19:05
jcastroand a very happy person19:05
bkerensanigelb: Hmm idk a few of the Canonical folks here in Portland stay up as late as I do but they work with teams in europe19:05
bkerensa;p19:05
nigelbinfinity hardly sleeps from what I hear.19:06
nigelband does totally fine19:06
mhall119nigelb: so did you, once upon a time :)19:09
nigelbmhall119: I don't do fine on low sleep.19:09
nigelbI get cranky.19:09
* mhall119 is up to 97 irssi windows, wonder what happens at 10019:09
pleia2you revise your definition of irc addition to be higher than 100 windows19:10
jussimhall119: you awake the sheeples...19:10
pleia2addiction19:10
nigelbpleia2++19:10
bkerensaHmm so Google seems to be rolling out their product rebrands... Bye Google Music :D19:10
bkerensaI wonder what Picasa and Blogger will be renamed to19:10
nigelbmhall119: you run /foreach query /unquery to redeuce the number of windows.19:10
mhall119jussi: I for one, welcome our new sheeple overlords19:11
nigelb.ws 2019:11
jussiyay, someome got it!19:11
mhall119pleia2: +119:11
bkerensamhall119: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat  <--- just for you19:11
nigelbI 'm at 97619:11
nigelblolwhat19:12
nigelbno19:12
nigelbI'm at 96 windows19:12
pleia2976++19:12
nigelbWhat happens when you're on multiple networks. You ping someone on the wrong network.19:13
mhall119nigelb: you don't notivce19:13
bkerensanigelb: this is why znc is good with their growl module19:14
bkerensa:D19:14
nigelbmeh, irssi 4 life.19:14
mhall119bkerensa: nice19:14
Atlantic777Hi! There is an idea of starting a e-zine in ubuntu-rs community and some other communities want to help us (Linux Users Group of Novi Sad, Mint Serbia etc.) but we have some problems with organisation. May I ask you few questions about handling a young community?19:15
Atlantic777hope that this is the right place :D19:15
czajkowskiAtlantic777: how can we help?19:18
Atlantic777So we started a mailing list, there are about 5 members who will give their sould for that e-zine and others which are just interested in the idea. Actual problem is that there are 2 groups, one which wants to start writing right away, and another which wants to stay calm for some time and see where to go and what to do next.19:18
czajkowskiAtlantic777: always good to have a driver of a team tbh, only way things get done19:18
czajkowskiAtlantic777: perhaps a good way to start would be draw up a plan of what the team wants to do, and also a time frame19:19
czajkowskihow often it's to come out, what articles and then see who can help19:19
czajkowskiover commiting is the fastest way to nothing happening19:19
Atlantic777czajkowski: so you suggest me to let both groups do what they want and form natural teams?19:20
Atlantic777Another thing which bugs me is what to do next. Go for 0 release of e-zine or wait for some time, build larger community and then start?19:22
czajkowskiAtlantic777: no get them to work togehter, you need both to succcess19:22
czajkowskisucceed19:22
czajkowskibut I would say get them to write up what they want over an email or etherpad something they can work on and later refer back to19:22
Atlantic777They are just fighting at the moment. :D19:22
czajkowski:/19:22
czajkowskinever helpful19:23
czajkowskiit'll take someone to take charge to get the ball rolling19:23
jonoczajkowski, did your trophies arrive?19:23
Atlantic777jono: hey, are you *that* jono?! :D I'm just reading your book. :))19:24
jonohey Atlantic777, thanks for reading :-)19:24
jussisomeone want to do me a favour and make life supporting ubuntu easier? pur a way that tells the user the system version somewhere easy and simple! and create an alias for "lsb_release -a" that is rememberable and easy to communicate to a user!19:25
czajkowskijono: aye blog post coming now19:25
jcastrojussi: it's on the login screen19:26
jonoczajkowski, oh wow, cool19:26
czajkowskino point in logging off have emea in 35 mins19:26
czajkowskithen cooking dnner and not moving19:26
jussijcastro: not everyone uses a login screen though.19:26
cjohnstonjussi: just add "whatversionofubuntuamiusing" as an alias in terminal19:26
cjohnstonand propose a merge19:27
jcastrothey login via magic?19:27
jussianyway, thats my grumble for the day.19:27
jussijcastro: autologin? set up from ubiquity? (or doesnt ubuntu have that like kubuntu does?)19:27
jonoczajkowski, if you are posting about accomplishments, could you include a link to the mailing list so people can join?19:27
jonothanks!19:27
czajkowskidone19:28
czajkowski:)19:28
czajkowskiso far ahead of you19:28
czajkowski:p19:28
akgranerAtlantic777, there are some really great suggestions in the book19:28
czajkowskijono: also updated your wiki page for the install19:28
* akgraner should not wait 4 whole days to update - wow...19:30
Atlantic777akgraner: yep, I'm without experience, maybe even too young for task of community manager (19) but I'm moving forward everyday and the book is full of answers. I like to help people get on together and work something usefull but it seems that it's not so easy. :/19:31
cjohnstonjcastro: IIRC your buddy should be finishing up the charm this week? I forget who it was19:32
czajkowskijono: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2012/03/06/ubuntu-accomplishments-install-and-have-some-fun/19:33
akgranerAtlantic777,  when you get to Chapter 11 - Jono talks about the qualities of a Community Manager - if this is something you want to do,  pay attention to that chapter and see which skills you need to develop  - it's never to early or late to start :-)19:35
akgranerbrb reboot needed19:35
cjohnstonakgraner: you've been saying that for 20 minutes19:35
akgranerI know it took that long to update19:36
cjohnstonhehe19:37
akgranerI just wish when I rebooted everything would open and go back to the workspaces I had them on19:38
cjohnstondid anyone else notice anything special about a recent update to guidebook? http://ubuntuone.com/6xreWvlx2adBm6PkJ6YS5w19:38
cjohnstonakgraner: me too19:38
cjohnstonjono: look at the guidebook update ^^19:40
jcastrohaha awesome19:41
mhall119I didn't even know jono was working with them19:43
bkerensajono: Do you know when the 2012 CLS Attendees list will be viewable?19:44
jcastrohah seriously it's 2:46 mhall11919:46
jcastroI haven't even gotten to my email today lol19:46
cjohnstonjcastro: since you have so much time on your hands, I could use some help ;-)19:47
cjohnstonsummit.ubuntu.com has userdocs what? http://summit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html19:50
koolhead17guys am learning how to import/create custom icons for using it in Dia19:57
koolhead17will it be okey/permitted if i add one for ubuntu server <server with ubuntu> logo19:58
mhall119koolhead17: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for20:04
koolhead17mhall119, http://dia-installer.de/howto/create_shape/index.html.en20:04
mhall119koolhead17: and you're trying to make a custom shape for ubuntu  server?20:05
koolhead17yes20:05
koolhead17yes20:05
mhall119so, like a server box with a logo inside or something?20:05
koolhead17and later upload to there main repo/code/system20:05
koolhead17mhall119, exactly server box with ubuntu logo embedded20:06
mhall119do they have any redistribution requirements on what is uploaded to their repo?20:06
mhall119as long as they're okay with the trademark restrictions placed on the use of the logo, then I don't see where there would be a problem20:06
koolhead17i donno.Dia policy, probably i will ask before submitting it20:07
mhall119yeah, I think it'll be up to them whether to accept it or not20:08
mhall11998 irssi windows now...20:12
* pangolin hugs mhall119 20:13
pangolinyou rock. thank you.20:13
mhall119what'd I do?20:14
pangolinjust for being you. :)20:14
mhall119aw, thanks pangolin20:14
mhall119pangolin: you've officially made my day 100% better20:14
pangolinI'm glad I could help :)20:14
cjohnstonpangolin: stop feeding the animals20:19
pangolin:/20:19
pangolinno cookies for you then :P20:19
akgranerthanks mhall119 !20:26
mhall119akgraner: you're welcome20:26
mhall119cjohnston: animals?!20:26
mhall119see if I help you anymore20:26
cjohnstonlol20:26
jonoballoons, can we have a call when I have finished lunch in about 30 mins or so?21:05
balloonssure.. I'm here ;-21:05
jonoballoons, thanks, dude21:08
balloonsI need more monitors! :-(21:23
cjohnstoni have 521:24
cjohnstonif i hook up the 47" tv 621:24
=== koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|afk
jonoballoons, all set?21:45
balloonsyesh!21:45
jonoballoons, invite sent21:46
balloonsnot seeing it?21:47
jonoballoons, hmmm21:47
=== angela-android is now known as nothingspecial
jo-erlend_I was voted in as member today. \o/23:37
jo-erlend_are there any things I should want to do now? For instance, I'm eagerly awaiting my mail cloak. Is that something I need to setup myself, or is it fully automatic?23:38
cjohnstonauto23:38
cjohnstonjust follow the instructions on the wiki for things23:39
jo-erlend_what "wiki for things" is that? :)23:39
cjohnstonwiki.ubuntu.com23:39
jo-erlend_uhm.. Anything in particular I should look for?23:40
cjohnstonmembership23:40
jo-erlend_you're on a pay-per-byte connection, I take it? :)23:42
cjohnstonyes23:42
jo-erlend_extra grateful for your help, then. :)23:43
cjohnstonoh wait.. no.. im not23:43
cjohnstonsorry23:43
cjohnstonmis-read23:43
jo-erlend_well in that case, I'm just grateful.23:44
cjohnstonlol23:44
JanCif you mean the mail forwarding service, that will kick in automatically after you get added to the launchpad "ubuntu members" group & the cron job is run, or something like that23:46
jo-erlend_ah, ok. Do I get notified when it works, or do I just have to guess? :)23:47
jo-erlend_my launchpad id is joerlend.schinstad, so I'll get joerlend.schinstad@ubuntu.com, right?23:47
JanCI suppose23:48
cjohnstonyes.. no notification23:48
JanCtry sending mail to yourself, and see if it arrives or bounces23:49
JanC..:P23:49
popeyits not fully automatic23:49
jo-erlend_I use GMail, which fakes some of those mails.23:49
popeythe IS guy do some manual checks first and then run the script that does it23:49
bodhizazencongrats jo-erlend23:49
jo-erlend_thanks bodhi_zazen :)23:49
bodhizazenjo-erlend_: you can request a cloak in #ubuntu-irc23:51
popeyjo-erlend_: you can also request a subscription to LWN which is handy23:54
JanCjo-erlend_: gmail is broken beyond repair AFAIK23:56
jo-erlend_JanC, agreed.23:56
jo-erlend_but I'm seriously lazy. I guess I'll find the time to setup my own services now. GMail is becoming more work than it's worth.23:58
JanCI have been thinking about not allowing gmail users to subscribe to mailing lists, because they cause 99% of all support requests to mailing lists admins...  :-(23:59
jo-erlend_JanC, that requires some elaboration, I think.23:59
JanCbut of course I'm too friendly too do that23:59

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