| thumper | how do I find out what my "compose" key is? | 02:15 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | programatically hopefully | 02:15 |
| bryceh | thumper, you mean, apart from looking in the advanced keyboard layout settings dialog? | 02:17 |
| thumper | bryceh: yeah | 02:17 |
| thumper | I know that it is bound to AltGr on my keyboard | 02:17 |
| thumper | but I'm trying to write an automated test | 02:17 |
| thumper | also | 02:17 |
| thumper | as far as X is concerned | 02:17 |
| thumper | my AltGr isn't Alt_R | 02:17 |
| thumper | it is a multikey | 02:18 |
| bryceh | thumper, good question. I've assumed it's stored in gconf, but haven't ever looked for it | 02:18 |
| thumper | bryceh: where is the advanced keyboard layout settings dialog? | 02:18 |
| thumper | nm | 02:20 |
| thumper | found it | 02:20 |
| bryceh | settings panel > keyboard > layout settings > options | 02:20 |
| * thumper nods | 02:20 | |
| bryceh | rather buried | 02:20 |
| RAOF | thumper: You should be able to do that with xmodmap or somesuch, I think? | 02:46 |
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| thumper | RAOF: got any more specific ways? I've not used xmodmap before | 03:42 |
| RAOF | xmodmap -pk | grep -i multi_key | 03:45 |
| RAOF | Alternatively, if you've got a Display * and you want to learn more about the joy that is XKB, XkbGetMap appears to be your winner. | 03:47 |
| RAOF | thumper: Also, multi_key is X's nomenclature for the compose key. | 03:49 |
| thumper | RAOF: ah, ok | 03:49 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:51 |
| pitti | jbicha: I'm not opposed to the new keyring version, I just haven't tested it at all; there's quite some code changes in there | 05:52 |
| pitti | jbicha: and I haven't checked for API and behavioural changes | 05:52 |
| jbicha | quicklist capitalization is a bit inconsistent, I think sentence case is the standard but someone else should take a look at my change to gedit | 06:16 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:12 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 07:13 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 07:13 |
| pitti | quite fine, thank you! how about you? | 07:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm fine as well, thanks ;) | 07:14 |
| RAOF | Bah! That bug where <alt><right> would bring up the alt-tab switcher is back in the unity-team PPA. | 07:15 |
| ricotz | good morning, could someone look at this last glib change http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/glib/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/61_glib-compile-schemas-path.patch -- gdbu-codegen is actually located in /usr/bin | 07:19 |
| didrocks | RAOF: back? | 07:27 |
| didrocks | RAOF: it has been fixed yesterday | 07:27 |
| * didrocks looks again at trunk | 07:27 | |
| RAOF | It was fixed in the archive... | 07:27 |
| * RAOF may be out of date, though. | 07:27 | |
| didrocks | RAOF: did you upgrade today? (there is no new revisions) | 07:28 |
| didrocks | meaning as well that remaining release critical bockers aren't fixed :/ | 07:28 |
| didrocks | RAOF: rev 2048 | 07:28 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure if I upgraded today or not. | 07:28 |
| didrocks | apt-cache policy unity ? | 07:28 |
| RAOF | bzr2047. So that's fixed in the update. | 07:29 |
| didrocks | phew | 07:29 |
| didrocks | don't do that ever ever again! I have enough load of bad news from them everyday :) | 07:29 |
| RAOF | ...need to get 764MB of updates... | 07:29 |
| RAOF | Garghl. Stupid autotools, nodist_xfixes_barrier_SOURCES != nodist_xfixes_barriers_SOURCES. Would a sensible error message *really* be too much to ask for? | 07:46 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh btw, meeting reminder day! :) | 07:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: merci! | 07:56 |
| Sweetshark | moin! | 08:07 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 08:09 |
| * Sweetshark is sorting in duplicates again. | 08:14 | |
| didrocks | hey Sweetshark | 08:21 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: hey, so I heard people are reporting unitys intended behaviour as a bug? | 08:22 |
| Amoz | well halo thar | 08:23 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: well, it's really not quite clear from the bug report, isn't it? :) | 08:23 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: when you hover the panel with a libro maximized, you have the buttons as well? | 08:23 |
| Amoz | any updates on the shell 3.4 testing? :) | 08:23 |
| didrocks | pitti: argh, was about to do gnome-icon-theme :) | 08:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: ok, then please do | 08:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, for once I have some times to do some GNOME updates ;) | 08:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: -symbolic, too? | 08:33 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 08:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll merge ibus then | 08:34 |
| didrocks | good luck :) | 08:34 |
| didrocks | pitti: ah, -symbolic is in sync from debian, maybe you want to upload to experimental + sync? | 08:36 |
| pitti | we could do that, yes | 08:36 |
| pitti | but then we should also update g-i-t | 08:36 |
| pitti | (in Debian) | 08:37 |
| didrocks | hum, as you wish then :) | 08:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: for now, I think it's a bit far ahead in Debian | 08:37 |
| pitti | we barely got the new glib | 08:37 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, let's upload to ubuntu directly for now then | 08:37 |
| didrocks | ah ahead | 08:37 |
| didrocks | ok, let's wait for syncing for -symbolic maybe | 08:38 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: with libo maximized it works | 08:43 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: ok, let's wait on the bug report then | 08:43 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: with LibreOffice in fullscreen mode it doesnt and it shouldnt | 08:43 |
| didrocks | indeed | 08:44 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, this isn't good. i can't configure both of my displays to be on this morning | 09:07 |
| ronoc | mvo - ping ? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey | 09:11 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 09:12 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme? | 09:12 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va, et toi? :) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | un peu fatigué mais ca va sinon | 09:13 |
| didrocks | travaillé tard, non? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti, jbicha: thanks for doing updates! | 09:13 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 09:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, until 1am, wanted to get the new gtk out | 09:13 |
| seb128 | but I got it in the ppa after all, it's a bit buggy | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 09:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, no need of meeting reminder reminder today I see! | 09:16 |
| pitti | seb128: didrocks already reminded me | 09:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/canonical-desktop-team-precise-fixes-report.html | 09:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, so we tie again! | 09:16 |
| * pitti ^5s seb128 | 09:16 | |
| chrisccoulson | who broke multimonitor in precise? ;) | 09:16 |
| pitti | it would be nice if we could tie at precise release time | 09:16 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: broken how? seems to work here | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i can't get both screens to switch on. i just get an obscure error from the display panel | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | and now i've managed to get unity to think both screens are on | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | and all my windows are appearing on the screen that i can't see | 09:18 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, was there any xorg or unity change recently? | 09:18 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure | 09:18 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I blame hardware and your dock station :p | 09:18 |
| chrisccoulson | 1 second, i'm going to have to log out again | 09:18 |
| chrisccoulson | this must be about the 7th time already in 15 minutes ;) | 09:18 |
| seb128 | I had weird cases where I had to power off my laptop to "fix" ports detection | 09:18 |
| * pitti notes that "tig_ER" is a funny name for a locale | 09:20 | |
| seb128 | pitti, is that really a locale?! | 09:20 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, it's definitely completely broken here :( | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, just spotted it when running langpack-locale's tests | 09:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, gnome-icon-theme-symbolic (didrocks) -> let's wait on debian to sync it? | 09:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I think we can wait after precise if we do that :p or ping pitti to do the update in Debian... | 09:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: pitti told me that debian was ahead of us? | 09:21 |
| pitti | seb128: we quickly mentioned it, but if we update it in debian, we should update g-i-t in experimental, too | 09:21 |
| pitti | certianly doable | 09:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: err, no? | 09:22 |
| pitti | I meant that starting to update gnome packages to 3.4 sounds a bit early for Debian at this point | 09:22 |
| pitti | we just barely got a newer glib | 09:22 |
| didrocks | 09:37:18 pitti | didrocks: for now, I think it's a bit far ahead in Debian | 09:22 |
| didrocks | ah | 09:22 |
| didrocks | ok, I understood the opposite | 09:22 |
| didrocks | will do then :) | 09:22 |
| pitti | sorry for the confusion | 09:22 |
| didrocks | no, *I*'m sorry for it :) | 09:22 |
| pitti | seb128: "Tigre" in Eritrea | 09:22 |
| didrocks | ok, gedit crashes on closing | 09:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, learning every day ;-) | 09:23 |
| pitti | seb128: it does sound like there could be a few tigers there, though :) | 09:23 |
| didrocks | not sure how much jbicha tried it | 09:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, .6? | 09:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah | 09:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, by experience those are often due to plugins, maybe you use one that he doesn't? | 09:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, I think I have quite a stock config | 09:24 |
| seb128 | let me upgrad | 09:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's in the vcs still | 09:24 |
| didrocks | because he wanted to check the quicklist changed (see the pad) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 09:24 |
| mvo | ronoc: pong | 09:27 |
| ronoc | mvo, hey | 09:27 |
| ronoc | mvo, so i noticed yesterday that the RestartSchedule'd' signal has been renamed | 09:28 |
| ronoc | to RestartSchedule() | 09:28 |
| ronoc | on the packagekit interface | 09:28 |
| ronoc | is this to stay that way | 09:29 |
| ronoc | the i-session will of course not be sensitive to such signals if it's matching against the wrong string | 09:29 |
| seb128 | ronoc, hey | 09:30 |
| seb128 | ronoc, glatzor seemed to say it didn't yesterday, are you sure you didn't typoed it in your commit? | 09:31 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: hmmm, the plot thickens .. | 09:31 |
| ronoc | seb128, am maybe i did, i thought it did work previously | 09:32 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: what do you mean? | 09:32 |
| ronoc | i will change it back now to 'RestartSchedule' | 09:32 |
| seb128 | ronoc, thanks | 09:35 |
| pitti | tkamppeter_: do you have an opinion on the patch in debian bug 662660 ? | 09:35 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 662660 in cups-filters "cups-filters: Please drop ttf-freefonts and use fontconfig to find the best-matching similar font" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/662660 | 09:35 |
| pitti | tkamppeter_: seems upstreamable to me | 09:35 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: LibreOffice is doing fine. lo-menubar is acting up. | 09:38 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: see bug 884523, bug 945317. the second one is esp. interesting as it is 2d only. | 09:40 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 884523 in unity-2d "after oct 31 update, libreoffice can't detach from global menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884523 | 09:40 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 945317 in unity-2d "menubar doesn't show in unity2d" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/945317 | 09:40 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: please ping the 2d guys on #ubuntu-unity then | 09:40 |
| didrocks | for #1, seems to be an extension issue | 09:40 |
| Saviq | didrocks, did you encounter "#error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly.""? | 09:41 |
| Saviq | didrocks, Hud.h includes <glib/gvariant.h> | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, did we decide to keep libgnomekbd at 3.2, or has there just not been a 3.3.x release yet? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, the second | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: grabbing then; also, want me to do nautilus, or do you want to? | 09:42 |
| * pitti grabs gnome-themes-standard, too | 09:42 | |
| seb128 | pitti, as noted on the pad it's done in the vcs but blocked on gtk to be uploaded | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, gtk breaks mouse whell scrolling | 09:42 |
| pitti | seb128: ah sorry, missed that | 09:42 |
| seb128 | which is rather annoying for users | 09:43 |
| pitti | indeed | 09:43 |
| seb128 | so I keep it in the ppa until that's sorted | 09:43 |
| didrocks | Saviq: I think you need to include glib.h before including glib/gvariant.h | 09:45 |
| Saviq | didrocks, yeah, sounds like it, but it's in UnityCore/Hud.h | 09:45 |
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| didrocks | Saviq: try on your side, before including Hud.h to include glib.h directly | 09:46 |
| Saviq | didrocks, yup, doing that | 09:46 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, for me it looks OK. What is missing is the aprropriate portion for ./configure. Especially there one could perhaps even make the build dependency on fontconfig optional, so that a packager or a user can decide whether he wants the fontconfig bits (we want them). | 09:51 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ah, it already build-deps on fontconfig-dev, so I had assumed it already uses it anyway | 09:55 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, then perhaps another componant uses fontconfig. | 09:57 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ah, I think it was a workaround for the new poppler | 09:57 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: I want to upload cups-filters to D/U today, do you still have anything for this? | 09:59 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, then I will add that patch upstream and make a new upstream release and prepare a package on the BZR for you to upload. | 10:00 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, but now I remember that I am still waiting for a pdftopdf fix from larsu. | 10:01 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ah, it's not that urgent (the fontconfig patch) | 10:02 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: but if you want to, sure | 10:02 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, pdftoopvp seems to use fontconfig, therefore ./configure already checks for it. | 10:03 |
| pitti | meh, the i386 CD is again oversized -- stop bloating! | 10:04 |
| pitti | added python-paramiko, libo grew a bit | 10:06 |
| pitti | ah, duplicity pulls in paramiko now | 10:07 |
| pitti | TheMuso: do you want to handle the atk1.0 update to 3.3.91? | 10:11 |
| Saviq | didrocks, the hack you did for unity-merger doesn't seem to work | 10:17 |
| didrocks | Saviq: argh, it doesn't install unity-common? | 10:18 |
| didrocks | Saviq: I need to test it myself, will do shortly | 10:18 |
| Saviq | didrocks, the dir isn't there in time for B | 10:18 |
| Saviq | s/B/D/ | 10:18 |
| Saviq | scripts | 10:18 |
| didrocks | ah, crap :/ | 10:19 |
| didrocks | need to check if the .dsc is there then | 10:19 |
| didrocks | will have a look lalter | 10:19 |
| Saviq | didrocks, I'll check out things and let you know | 10:20 |
| didrocks | and a nice kernel panic for me :( | 10:23 |
| seb128 | :-( | 10:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you solve your monitor issues? | 10:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, not yet. i'm on just one screen :( | 10:24 |
| Saviq | didrocks, "/var/cache/pbuilder/precise-amd64/result/unity-2d_5.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc" is there | 10:25 |
| didrocks | Saviq: well, I'm alreay in the chroot, so I need to look here | 10:26 |
| Saviq | didrocks, that's the chroot | 10:26 |
| didrocks | Saviq: yeah, but you have as well all the other packages, isn't? | 10:27 |
| Saviq | didrocks, I dropped to shell in D10specifitests | 10:27 |
| Saviq | didrocks, that's the only .dsc, though | 10:27 |
| didrocks | ah interesting then :) | 10:27 |
| didrocks | ok, will use that then | 10:27 |
| didrocks | can you give it a try? | 10:27 |
| didrocks | with -f | 10:27 |
| Saviq | didrocks, but I didn't build anything else there | 10:27 |
| Saviq | didrocks, so there might be more .dsc if you build other things, no? | 10:28 |
| didrocks | ah | 10:28 |
| didrocks | yeah | 10:28 |
| didrocks | Saviq: nothing in /tmp/buildd ? | 10:28 |
| Saviq | didrocks, empty | 10:28 |
| didrocks | hum… | 10:28 |
| didrocks | need to give a deeper look, not now though :( | 10:28 |
| Saviq | didrocks, `find -name *unity-2d* /` only gave me the /var/cache :/ | 10:28 |
| Saviq | didrocks, that's fine, just wanted to let you know what I found | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, hmmm, so, deleting my monitor.xml "fixes" it ;) | 10:35 |
| seb128 | :-( | 10:35 |
| seb128 | was it corrupted? | 10:35 |
| seb128 | the xrandr code didn't change recently I think | 10:36 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, there's a couple of strange configurations in there actually | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | those 2 are weird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/871264/ | 10:39 |
| seb128 | yeah, I get chrisccoulson to do desktop debugging for the second time this week \o/ :p | 10:40 |
| chrisccoulson | seeing as i have no VGA, and one of them has no settings for the laptop panel, which is what i couldn't get to switch on | 10:40 |
| seb128 | weird | 10:40 |
| seb128 | the question is to know how you landed with that config... | 10:40 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure :) | 10:41 |
| seb128 | did you use the capplet recently? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | or cycle using the hotkey? | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't used either of those for a while | 10:42 |
| chrisccoulson | but i did dock with my lid closed this morning, which i don't normally do | 10:42 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi | 11:12 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey | 11:12 |
| ricotz | seb128, did my message about glib reach you somehow? | 11:12 |
| seb128 | ricotz, no | 11:12 |
| ricotz | gdbus-codegen is located in /usr/bin | 11:13 |
| ricotz | not in /usr/lib/... | 11:13 |
| seb128 | oh, so the .pc is wrong? | 11:13 |
| ricotz | no the patch is wrong ;) | 11:13 |
| seb128 | well, the patch to the .pc | 11:13 |
| seb128 | so the .pc in result | 11:13 |
| ricotz | yeah | 11:13 |
| seb128 | gotcha, I didn't look hard, I though it was similar to the other binaries | 11:14 |
| seb128 | shouldn't it be installed in the same dir than the others? | 11:14 |
| ricotz | hmm, not sure | 11:15 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I will fix it in the next upload, thanks | 11:17 |
| seb128 | ricotz, is anything using the .pc to get the gdbus command? | 11:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, there? how did you " import 1.1.4.is.1.1.3-0ubuntu1 upload: Revert to 1.1.3 until we can figure out proper solution to bug 944736 | 11:17 |
| seb128 | " | 11:17 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 944736 in lightdm "Fails to load any session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944736 | 11:17 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, dont know, but if so it will break | 11:17 |
| seb128 | in lightdm? | 11:17 |
| pitti | seb128: I grabbed the debdiff from LP and applied it | 11:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 11:18 |
| pitti | seb128: so that commit could just be reverted before upgrading to the new version (except changelog) | 11:18 |
| ricotz | pitti, hi | 11:18 |
| pitti | ricotz: hallo, wie gehts? | 11:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I tried to bzr merge-upstream but it's making my life miserable | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, tons of conflicts, I tried to resolve --take-other | 11:19 |
| seb128 | 198 files changed, 11371 insertions(+), 12080 deletions(-) | 11:19 |
| seb128 | in the diff.gz | 11:19 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I think you need to revert that reversion before | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will try to reverse that commit and then merge-upstream | 11:19 |
| pitti | seb128: want me to have a look? | 11:19 |
| pitti | ah, or that | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, that's fine | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've everything locally | 11:19 |
| ricotz | pitti, gut, danke, und selbst? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just tried other approchs but failed | 11:20 |
| pitti | ricotz: prima | 11:20 |
| ricotz | pitti, there migth be some new LO ppa builds this week ;) | 11:20 |
| ricotz | pitti, lucid worked fine without cheating | 11:20 |
| pitti | nice | 11:21 |
| ricotz | (it only used 21gb for amd64) | 11:21 |
| ronoc | mvo, that 'RestartSchedule' bug is not being triggered | 11:31 |
| ronoc | mvo, what package should i point the relevant bug to | 11:31 |
| ricotz | seb128, do you check gtk yet? | 11:33 |
| mvo | ronoc: aptdaemon please | 11:33 |
| ronoc | cool | 11:34 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it's in the desktop team ppa, I still have the mouse whell scrolling issues your mentioned | 11:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, did you talk to mclasen about it? | 11:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, no yet, feel free to do so | 11:37 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I plan to ;-) would have been useful before the release though :-( | 11:38 |
| ronoc | mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+bug/942104 | 11:38 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 942104 in indicator-session "the indicator stopped turning red on restart required" [High,New] | 11:38 |
| ricotz | seb128, i was asking him about the libxi dependency which isnt working for the patched one in oneiric | 11:38 |
| ricotz | seb128, as i said yesterday, disabling the xi2.2 might help | 11:38 |
| ricotz | *support | 11:39 |
| seb128 | ricotz, well, ideally we want both | 11:39 |
| seb128 | xi2.2 and mouse whell | 11:39 |
| seb128 | I will talk to mclasen | 11:39 |
| ricotz | right, i am not sure gtk is blocking something already | 11:39 |
| ricotz | so this would be an option | 11:40 |
| seb128 | only nautilus | 11:40 |
| seb128 | which has 3 commits, 2 coming from Ubuntu (fixes from mterry) we have and one to fix scrolling with the new gtk | 11:40 |
| mvo | ronoc: ta | 11:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, i see | 11:41 |
| pitti | seb128: lightdm happier now? | 11:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, I got it sorted, thanks | 11:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, I still don't understand bzr resolve --take-other was not working | 11:46 |
| seb128 | but after reverting your commit it's working | 11:46 |
| pitti | good | 11:47 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, larsu has found the cause of the N-up problem of pdftopdf and will work on it this afternonn. cups-filters will most probably ready for its next upload tomorrow in the morning. | 11:50 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: nice, that sounds fine | 11:51 |
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| gema | rickspencer3: are you there? | 12:23 |
| gema | rickspencer3: we have a bug that needs to be fixed to unblock software center testing and it is not getting enough attention, bug 937119 | 12:23 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937119 in unity "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_foreach()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/937119 | 12:24 |
| gema | rickspencer3: any help from you to get some traction on this issue much appreciated | 12:24 |
| lenios | hi there | 12:33 |
| lenios | asked in -devel but heard it might be better to ask here: how would you recommend overriding a setting set in a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/*.gschema.override file? (for example org.gnome.desktop.background) | 12:33 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I tried the patch from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662660. I uninstalled ttf-freefont (with --force-depends). The job completes (does not error out and gets removed from the queue) but the output is unreadable. | 12:35 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 662660 in cups-filters "cups-filters: Please drop ttf-freefonts and use fontconfig to find the best-matching similar font" [Wishlist,Open] | 12:35 |
| didrocks | gema: that would be nice that 1. you state that earlier 2. pinged the upstream first (the unity team) 3. try to ping the maintainer in ubuntu before (me) | 12:35 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I have also tried to remove the links in /usr/share/cups/fonts/ and it still gives the bad printout. | 12:36 |
| didrocks | gema: I have a priority list where I put items for the upstream list when people ask first | 12:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | fantastic. we have a power cut | 12:37 |
| chrisccoulson_ | for probably the first time since i've lived here! | 12:37 |
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| didrocks | rickspencer3: FYI ^ | 12:37 |
| gema | didrocks: we had someone from unity there saying they cannot reproduce | 12:48 |
| gema | didrocks: but now that I know you are the contact person, will do in the future | 12:48 |
| gema | didrocks: do you think you can have that at least looked at at some point soonish? | 12:49 |
| didrocks | gema: he didn't tell that, he told the stacktrace wasn't helpful | 12:49 |
| gema | didrocks: he has the code to reproduce the problem | 12:49 |
| didrocks | gema: yeah, I'm putting it on the priority list with a high version | 12:49 |
| gema | didrocks: thanks | 12:49 |
| didrocks | priority* | 12:49 |
| gema | rickspencer3: forget about it, found the man I needed to find :) | 12:49 |
| didrocks | gema: we will have hopefully a new unity release tomorrow, once the release critical will be fixed | 12:49 |
| didrocks | (this won't contain this fix though) | 12:49 |
| didrocks | but I'll ensure they get it fixed then | 12:50 |
| didrocks | and will backport in the package | 12:50 |
| gema | didrocks: fair enough, as long as it is on your radar for beta 2 I am happy | 12:50 |
| didrocks | gema: ok, thanks :) | 12:50 |
| gema | didrocks: dave is having trouble testing software centre due to it, so it is in everyone's benefit to have it fixed as soon as we can | 12:50 |
| gema | didrocks: sorry for the misunderstanding! | 12:51 |
| didrocks | gema: no worry, I'll keep you posted | 12:51 |
| gema | didrocks: thanks a lot | 12:52 |
| didrocks | gema: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuMtju1x8UoEdDNCT1U5MlVodjIwNGJPdnU5YVltVmc#gid=1 is the priority list | 12:52 |
| gema | didrocks: cool, I will bookmark it | 12:52 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ah, thanks for trying | 12:53 |
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| tkamppeter | pitti, so as it is I will not take the patch upstream, it needs some more work. | 12:54 |
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| pitti | tkamppeter: CC'ed you on my reply | 12:55 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: right | 12:55 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, thanks. | 12:56 |
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| pitti | seb128: meh, gconf renamed its library? | 13:08 |
| pitti | libgconf2-4 -> libgconf-2-4 apparently | 13:08 |
| pitti | just saw it in binNEW | 13:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, dunno, talk to slangasek, I saw he merged the multiarch debian version | 13:09 |
| seb128 | but I didn't look into details, I guess they did | 13:09 |
| seb128 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gconf/news/20120226T133315Z.html | 13:09 |
| pitti | *shrug*, ok | 13:09 |
| seb128 | + Rename libgconf2-4 to libgconf-2-4, make it MA: same. | 13:09 |
| seb128 | + Make libgconf2-4 a dummy MA: same package depending on both too. | 13:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 13:09 |
| seb128 | yeah for useless renames... | 13:10 |
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| pitti | silly LP exception in the amd64 retracer, restarting.. | 13:38 |
| pitti | doctor appointment, bbl | 13:45 |
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| === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ | ||
| === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine_ | ||
| jbicha | good morning | 13:56 |
| jbicha | so why does Design not like sentence case any more? "Lock to launcher" seems a pretty strong counter-example | 13:58 |
| jbicha | but then again, it's just terribly inconsistent, "Empty Trash", "New Terminal", Nautilus' "Open a new window" | 13:58 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey, how are you? | 14:00 |
| jbicha | I want to follow up on the Design mailing list but I'm curious who made the decision for Design this time | 14:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's a bit complicated, HIG, GNOME, etc use "New Tab" | 14:00 |
| seb128 | design whant "New tab" | 14:00 |
| seb128 | style | 14:00 |
| seb128 | I told John it was a bit idea since that inconsistent with GNOME etc | 14:01 |
| seb128 | but he says our design guideline suggest only the start of sentence to be capital cased | 14:01 |
| seb128 | so our options are to follow GNOME or to patch everything out | 14:01 |
| seb128 | I told him we should take the easiest path and follow GNOME style for the lts | 14:01 |
| seb128 | then discuss it at UDS | 14:02 |
| seb128 | jbicha, does it make sense? | 14:02 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, but that decision needs to be announced or something with all the quicklist activity going on | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | tsk, capitalized letters are so overrated, we should drop the first letter capitalization too | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | for consistency | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it was? | 14:03 |
| jbicha | seb128: where? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, the unity list wiki recommend capitalized style and mhall went through the merge request with updated instructions | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, "a Name=, which is the entry as it's displayed which should be in title case. " | 14:03 |
| seb128 | the example as well | 14:04 |
| seb128 | Name=Take a Screenshot of the Current Window | 14:04 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, fair enough, the screenshot on that page needs updating though | 14:04 |
| seb128 | right | 14:04 |
| jbicha | thanks | 14:04 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:04 |
| seb128 | jbicha, sorry for the mess | 14:04 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's still not clear what is best to me, design recommendation and what they use is conflicting with what we used until now and GNOME is doing | 14:05 |
| seb128 | so either way it's going to be work | 14:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you have an opinion on what is best as an english speaker? ;-) | 14:05 |
| jbicha | I don't think there's a clear best, title case is traditional, but for a good counter-example, the new GNOME help uses sentence case for titles | 14:07 |
| seb128 | shrug | 14:08 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you know if GNOME has any guideline or preference for their list if they plan to it for shell? | 14:08 |
| jbicha | seb128: except for help, they seem to still use title case everywhere | 14:12 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, we will stay on that for this cycle | 14:12 |
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| jbicha | oh and I do get an apport crash popup when I close gedit 3.3.6 here | 14:28 |
| seb128 | jbicha, yeah, didrocks was mentioning that this morning | 14:28 |
| seb128 | jbicha, he didn't upload because of it | 14:28 |
| * pitti retries control-center amd64 build | 14:54 | |
| desrt | pitti: hello. | 14:55 |
| desrt | off the phone? :) | 14:55 |
| pitti | hey desrt | 14:56 |
| pitti | heh, yes | 14:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm about to update control-center so probably no need to retry old builds | 14:56 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey | 14:56 |
| desrt | so i was noticing that the latest precise doesn't do XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 14:56 |
| desrt | even though i've been telling for over a year that it is really necessary to support this | 14:57 |
| desrt | meanwhile, i have some patches waiting on bugzilla for improving NFS support that depend very heavily on this functionality | 14:57 |
| pitti | right, it's something systemd specific | 14:58 |
| pitti | so we might get it next cycle | 14:58 |
| desrt | pitti: you told me some time ago that it could probably be implemented in consolekit or so | 14:58 |
| pitti | but I don't really see us crowbaring this into CK at this point :( | 14:58 |
| pitti | desrt: right, just nobody found the time to do it, and so far it's not a mandatory feature | 14:58 |
| desrt | pitti: you didn't really have any lack of advance warning... :/ | 14:58 |
| desrt | pitti: well... dconf-on-nfs on ubuntu is already somewhat broken | 14:59 |
| desrt | but it's about to get worse | 14:59 |
| desrt | anyway... i agree that it's no time to hack it in at this point | 15:00 |
| pitti | we can get something like /var/run/user/ relatively quick, but it won't have all the required properties | 15:01 |
| desrt | so i'm going to hold off on accepting the patch until next cycle | 15:01 |
| pitti | in particular, cleaning it up when the user logs out sounds a bit racy | 15:01 |
| desrt | but you really really need to promise to do XDG_RUNTIME_DIR next cycle :p | 15:01 |
| pitti | that needs some actual CK support | 15:01 |
| desrt | (one way or another) | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | we're switching to systemd, aren't we? | 15:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ;) | 15:02 |
| * pitti assigns bug 894391 to himself | 15:02 | |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 894391 in consolekit "support $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894391 | 15:02 |
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| desrt | chrisccoulson: that would certainly be the easiest way :p | 15:02 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, we as desktop are over those level :p | 15:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no sure what foundation is doing ;-) | 15:03 |
| * desrt doesn't really care about the mechanism -- only the interface | 15:04 | |
| seb128 | but I'm for sure not putting my hands on init stuff | 15:04 |
| seb128 | whatever they want ;-) | 15:04 |
| seb128 | I like my system to boot though | 15:04 |
| seb128 | so I'm not looking forward an init system change if there is one | 15:04 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: what, you don't want to be converting init scripts to systemd and fixing boot races full time for the next 4 releases? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, exactly what I'm not looking for indeed! | 15:05 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 15:05 |
| seb128 | I remember how many years it took us to get sound working again, please let my init alone ;-) | 15:05 |
| mdeslaur | +1 | 15:05 |
| desrt | mdeslaur: going to sign the anti-lennart petition? :) | 15:06 |
| desrt | "first he broke my sound... then he broke my init..." | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | there is a petition ? | 15:06 |
| desrt | ya | 15:06 |
| desrt | it's hilarious | 15:06 |
| * ogra_ looks for his pen | 15:06 | |
| chrisccoulson | i was just about to say that it sounds like we're suggesting that everything lennart writes is unreliable ;) | 15:06 |
| desrt | http://www.change.org/petitions/lennart-poettering-stop-writing-useless-programs-systemd-journal | 15:06 |
| desrt | 235 people signed it | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hah | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | lol | 15:06 |
| mdeslaur | desrt: ha! awesome :) | 15:06 |
| pitti | mterry: good morning | 15:11 |
| mterry | pitti, hi! | 15:11 |
| pitti | mterry: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/0.6.18-0ubuntu1 -> how much does this need paramiko? It's a very large package (0.8 MB) | 15:11 |
| mterry | pitti, needs it for ssh. We can't drop python-pexpect due to the switch? | 15:12 |
| mterry | (not for ssh as used by deja-dup though) | 15:12 |
| mterry | (so we could drop it to a suggests without a big loss of functionality for desktop users) | 15:13 |
| pitti | mterry: no, hplip and checkbox also need it (and it's smaller, too) | 15:13 |
| mterry | ah right | 15:13 |
| pitti | mterry: just trying to see what we can remove again, as the CDs once again are oversized :/ | 15:13 |
| mterry | pitti, ah in that case, I can drop it to a recommends | 15:14 |
| mterry | i mean a suggests | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, we will not win the space back from langpacks base update at release? | 15:14 |
| pitti | mterry: so it either calls the ssh binary through pexpect or uses paramiko to do it via a library? | 15:14 |
| pitti | seb128: first, the update packs are empty, and second, not on the live system | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, did we drop ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk yet? | 15:14 |
| pitti | only on alternates (but they have no problem) | 15:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I dropped it in the seeds, yes; let me check if we have -meta rebuilt | 15:15 |
| pitti | Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb | 15:15 |
| pitti | aah | 15:15 |
| * pitti rebuilds | 15:15 | |
| pitti | seb128: we'll add u1-installer instead | 15:15 |
| pitti | anyway, rebuilding meta, and then let's see what tomorrow's image does | 15:15 |
| mterry | pitti, no it can't use pexpect anymore. But it has its own baked in ssh backend that uses paramiko or it has a GIO backend which can be used for all the non-cloud protocols, which is what Deja Dup does | 15:15 |
| pitti | mterry: hm, dropping ssh support would be a shame | 15:16 |
| mterry | pitti, well, users and Deja Dup can just use the GIO ssh backend for it | 15:16 |
| pitti | oh, if that works, sure | 15:16 |
| mterry | pitti, yeah. Deja Dup users would never notice. Only users of the commandline, who would have to add --gio to their command line | 15:17 |
| mterry | Or install python-paramiko | 15:17 |
| pitti | so, dropping u1-control-panel-gtk will save us *gasp* 80 kB | 15:20 |
| seb128 | :-( | 15:20 |
| desrt | how is CD space this cycle, anyway? | 15:24 |
| pitti | desrt: we were within limits for beta-1 | 15:24 |
| pitti | after much squeezing :) | 15:24 |
| * desrt doesn't get what took up all the extra space | 15:24 | |
| desrt | we dropped mono for crying out loud | 15:24 |
| pitti | desrt: that was only 6 MB or so | 15:25 |
| pitti | current mono is split up rather well | 15:25 |
| pitti | desrt: and we added python 3, and firefox/tbird grew quite a bit | 15:25 |
| desrt | so what filled the 56MB? | 15:25 |
| desrt | ah | 15:25 |
| pitti | we dropped py3 again, and tbird/ffox shrank by 1 MB again | 15:25 |
| desrt | so chrisccoulson's fault, mostly | 15:25 |
| pitti | the kernel/firmware also grew quite a bit | 15:25 |
| desrt | that makes sense | 15:26 |
| desrt | that's something that is going to be more complicated soon | 15:26 |
| pitti | no, not really | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | i was hoping they would shrink by a bit more than that :( | 15:26 |
| pitti | next cycle we get a 750 MB limit, and it'll grow | 15:26 |
| desrt | no linux-weird-storage-drivers-modules package? | 15:26 |
| pitti | i. e. sabdfl said we'd do USB images | 15:26 |
| desrt | ya... to be honest, burning to a CD is something that i stopped doing a while ago anyway | 15:27 |
| desrt | quite a shame, though | 15:27 |
| pitti | yeah, same here | 15:27 |
| desrt | just as we have this cool new technology for an image file that boots from USB and also CD... | 15:27 |
| desrt | we remove the ability to burn it to a CD :p | 15:27 |
| desrt | i guess people may still use DVD | 15:27 |
| pitti | desrt: that wasn't the main concern | 15:27 |
| pitti | you can use a DVD | 15:27 |
| pitti | the main concerns are (1) every extra 50 MB will lose you so many people who can't download it any more due to slow bandwidth | 15:28 |
| jbicha | pitti: I thought next cycle would be 800 MB ;) or is it "use or lose"? :( | 15:28 |
| pitti | and (2) it removes the pressure for not piling up too much cruft | 15:28 |
| pitti | jbicha: or 800, don't remember | 15:28 |
| pitti | but in principle we'll go towards 1 GB | 15:28 |
| desrt | pitti: the good news is the decrease in software complexity from not having to do more and more dirty hacks to save 1MB here and there | 15:29 |
| desrt | pitti: and the users you lose because of buggy behaviour due to that | 15:29 |
| pitti | desrt: I'm not sure whether putting more and more libraries and runtimes on your system counts as "decreased complexity" | 15:30 |
| pitti | desrt: py2, py3, gtk2, gtk3, its C#, C++, python and perhaps gs bindings, Erlang | 15:30 |
| pitti | we had images like that | 15:30 |
| desrt | pitti: right.. but given that you require that you have a choice about how to do it | 15:31 |
| desrt | pitti: so did you hear about the new gcr? | 15:36 |
| pitti | desrt: the splitout from libgnome-keyring? sure | 15:36 |
| desrt | pitti: the fact that we require the 3.4 version if we want gnome-shell 3.4 | 15:37 |
| seb128 | desrt, didrocks, chrisccoulson, pitti: can you "xinput list <your_mouse"> | 15:37 |
| pitti | desrt: bug 947447 | 15:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 947447 in gnome-keyring "[FFe] gnome-keyring/seahorse 3.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947447 | 15:37 |
| seb128 | xinput list, spot your mouse, and do it on the number | 15:37 |
| seb128 | and give me the increment value please | 15:37 |
| seb128 | i.e xinput list 10 | grep increment | 15:38 |
| desrt | increment: -1.000000 | 15:38 |
| pitti | my usb mouse: increment: -1.000000 | 15:38 |
| desrt | that's my external USB mouse | 15:38 |
| desrt | the internal mouse device for my thinkpad has no such field | 15:38 |
| pitti | my trackpad: increment: 111.000000 | 15:38 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:38 |
| didrocks | increment: -nan | 15:39 |
| pitti | trackpoint: no such field | 15:39 |
| desrt | trackpad for me is also 111 | 15:39 |
| didrocks | funny :) | 15:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: double negation! | 15:39 |
| desrt | oh ieee754 | 15:39 |
| seb128 | nan here as well | 15:39 |
| seb128 | it's what breaks gtk scrolling | 15:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, is that amd64? | 15:39 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, does it means it's a number at the end? :) | 15:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: no, i386 | 15:39 |
| didrocks | Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) | 15:39 |
| pitti | amd64 here | 15:39 |
| pitti | A4Tech USB Mouse | 15:39 |
| didrocks | (yeah, a bad gift/joke from my ex-coworkers ;)) | 15:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, maybe a 32b issue, thanks | 15:40 |
| desrt | seb128: blame RAOF :) | 15:40 |
| seb128 | desrt, I'm blaming cnd for now | 15:40 |
| seb128 | desrt, debugging with him | 15:40 |
| desrt | seb128: be nice to him. he's had a rough week :p | 15:40 |
| seb128 | <cnd> I have -nan on my i386 netbook | 15:40 |
| pitti | see, i386 can't even represent -1 properly | 15:42 |
| pitti | this arch should die | 15:42 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:42 |
| broder | can we start bootstrapping x32 instead? :) | 15:42 |
| desrt | x32 is using the new feature of the amd64 instruction set with 32bit pointers, right? | 15:43 |
| broder | right. so all the extra register goodness of amd64 without the memory overhead of doubling your pointer size | 15:44 |
| desrt | extra registers are not all good... | 15:44 |
| desrt | more registers = higher context switch latency | 15:44 |
| desrt | the best feature of amd64 is the ip-relative addressing mode, anyway :) | 15:45 |
| desrt | no more call-and-pop thunk :D | 15:45 |
| Ursinha | pitti, hello :) unity* packages should be our concern, right? desktop team, that is | 15:51 |
| pitti | Ursinha: yes, shared between desktop and DX | 15:51 |
| Ursinha | pitti, right; I'm asking because there is a lp team to which all packages we need to be aware of bugs are subscribed to | 15:52 |
| Ursinha | and unity packages aren't there | 15:52 |
| Ursinha | I'm subscribing them | 15:52 |
| Ursinha | and thanks :) no one replies irc as fast as you do | 15:53 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, pitti: can't we just add the unity set to the script rather than duplicate it? | 15:53 |
| Ursinha | seb128, not sure what you mean | 15:53 |
| Ursinha | seb128, I'm talking about a team (~desktop-packages), and I use the package subscriptions to determine the bugs we need to monitor | 15:54 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, well, there is like 15 sources in unity, rather than adding those to wherver you add them, can't you just watch the unity-team list? | 15:54 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, or watch both ~desktop-packages and ~unity-team? | 15:54 |
| Ursinha | that would break the idea of having a team with all packages that desktop cares about :) that's for scripting purposes only | 15:55 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, ok | 15:55 |
| Ursinha | and pedro created this team specially to avoid people that use ~desktop-bugs of being nagged | 15:55 |
| seb128 | works for me | 15:55 |
| Ursinha | cool | 15:55 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, I guess I mostly wanted to point that unity-team has a list of unity packages already, it's not only "unity", you might want pick their list ;-) | 15:55 |
| pitti | seb128: looks like no meeting again today, no agenda items | 15:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, right | 15:56 |
| Ursinha | seb128, ah, cool. I was actually talking about unity* | 15:56 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll probably be on the phone in half an hour | 15:56 |
| Ursinha | I guess I added the wildcard there :P | 15:56 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, ;-) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, you are turning into a business man ;-) | 15:57 |
| Ursinha | hehe | 15:57 |
| pitti | nooooooooo | 15:57 |
| Ursinha | hahahahaha | 15:57 |
| pitti | I have exactly one tie only | 15:57 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 15:57 | |
| Ursinha | pitti, business man nowadays don't need ties | 15:57 |
| pitti | and I don't want to shave off my goatee | 15:57 |
| Ursinha | they spend the day in calls | 15:58 |
| pitti | I'm sure rickspencer3 doesn't know what you are talking about | 15:58 |
| Ursinha | lol | 15:58 |
| Ursinha | seb128, thanks for the pointer, I'll check unity-team for their packages | 15:58 |
| Ursinha | seb128, could you make me admin of ~desktop-packages team, please? I see you are an admin there | 16:01 |
| Ursinha | http://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, done | 16:02 |
| Ursinha | seb128, merci! | 16:02 |
| seb128 | Ursinha, de rien ;-) | 16:03 |
| Ursinha | ;) | 16:03 |
| * rickspencer3 notes that he is wearing shorts and hoody atm | 16:05 | |
| Ursinha | that's what I was talking about :) | 16:06 |
| Saviq | didrocks, any idea what happened with https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/automerge-unity-2d/167/console ? | 16:29 |
| Saviq | didrocks, we got 3 builds like that | 16:29 |
| * didrocks looks | 16:30 | |
| didrocks | 6/6 Test #6: focuspathtest ....................***Failed 0.02 sec | 16:30 |
| didrocks | test faiing? | 16:31 |
| Saviq | didrocks, that's fine, look at the reason | 16:31 |
| didrocks | failing* | 16:31 |
| Saviq | well, fine as in... xvfb seems to die | 16:31 |
| didrocks | Saviq: yeah, it seems to die before you are killing it | 16:31 |
| Saviq | trying pbuilder locally | 16:31 |
| * Sweetshark is confused. when do we have team-meeting? in one hour right? | 16:36 | |
| mterry | Sweetshark, I think now, but today there was nothing on the agenda. Maybe there is now... /me checks | 16:38 |
| mterry | nope | 16:38 |
| Sweetshark | mterry: k, thx. | 16:38 |
| seb128 | should be now | 16:39 |
| mterry | seb128, heh | 16:39 |
| seb128 | if somebody has a topic please say so ;-) | 16:39 |
| seb128 | hey mterry | 16:39 |
| Sweetshark | umm, UDS travel planning? still postponed, or what? | 16:39 |
| mterry | oh, thought you meant that you just added agenda items as i was checking | 16:39 |
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| seb128 | Sweetshark, jasoncwarner is back at the end of week, I guess we will get an update then | 16:42 |
| seb128 | mterry, sorry, I meant the meeting should be now if somebody has a topic | 16:43 |
| === Guest32450 is now known as albrigha | ||
| seb128 | Sweetshark, but you are not likely going to the dx rally so I guess you can probably book | 16:43 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: ah, indeed. well, I can wait until next week. just didnt want to book two days before the UDS ;) | 16:45 |
| Saviq | didrocks, the tests pass here in my local unity-merger | 16:52 |
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| didrocks | Saviq: weird, are you sure you apt-get update to have the latest components in your pbuilder? | 16:52 |
| Saviq | didrocks, and what's more none of the failed merges even touches anything tests related | 16:52 |
| Saviq | didrocks, I did go `pbuilder update`, should do the same thing, no? | 16:53 |
| didrocks | yeah | 16:53 |
| Saviq | everything looks up to date | 16:53 |
| didrocks | hum, weird | 16:53 |
| * didrocks retries manually | 16:53 | |
| Saviq | didrocks, another one merged fine | 16:58 |
| didrocks | Saviq: tried manually just now | 16:58 |
| didrocks | Saviq: and working | 16:58 |
| didrocks | on the server | 16:58 |
| Saviq | didrocks, so wtf? | 16:59 |
| didrocks | maybe some temporary glitches, I don't know | 16:59 |
| Saviq | didrocks, ok, reapproving | 16:59 |
| didrocks | yeah, seems the best to do right now :) | 16:59 |
| * Sweetshark fixed another >400 Heat bug. | 17:24 | |
| Sweetshark | ... and dances a bit now. | 17:24 |
| mdeslaur | \o/ | 17:29 |
| didrocks | ok, will try to do some exercice while there are still some lights outside | 17:34 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 17:34 | |
| * Sweetshark too </AOL-mode>. | 17:35 | |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:14 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 18:15 |
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| Laney | seb128: bug #947095 sounds like the one i've got, fyi | 18:49 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 947095 in gnome-power-manager "Closing lid fails to suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947095 | 18:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok | 18:52 |
| * Laney uploads tomboy for karma | 18:53 | |
| Laney | oho, already done | 19:24 |
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| TheMuso | pitti: Yes I'll take care of it today. | 19:37 |
| BoxyK2 | Hi there, I have a question to a NotifyOSD warning. I receive a warning that the maximum capacity of my battery is getting lower (not the current charge level). | 19:56 |
| BoxyK2 | Does anyone know what's the threshold for this warning? | 19:56 |
| BoxyK2 | Where can I see that? | 19:56 |
| BoxyK2 | Can I change it? | 19:56 |
| BoxyK2 | Can anyone help? (Or does anyone know where to look that up?) | 20:00 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, it would be in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (navigate to it in dconf-editor) | 20:00 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, but I don't see anything like that | 20:00 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, just settings for charge level | 20:00 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, nothing for capacity | 20:00 |
| BoxyK2 | yes, exactly. | 20:00 |
| BoxyK2 | that's exactly the same thing that made me confused | 20:00 |
| BoxyK2 | mterry: Do you know where else I could look? | 20:04 |
| jbicha | BoxyK2: you could poke around http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/tree/plugins/power | 20:04 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, if it was configurable, it would probably be there. The only other place I'd look is the source itself | 20:04 |
| BoxyK2 | I even tried that... | 20:05 |
| BoxyK2 | I found the warning message, but I did not find where this string is being displayed. | 20:05 |
| BoxyK2 | There was no reference to that string in the source codes. | 20:05 |
| BoxyK2 | I checked the settings daemon | 20:05 |
| BoxyK2 | I checked the power-manager | 20:06 |
| BoxyK2 | and I checked NotifyOSD | 20:06 |
| BoxyK2 | But nowhere a reference to that warning message. | 20:06 |
| mterry | BoxyK2, search on http://open-tran.eu/ for the string? sometimes that helps narrow it down | 20:23 |
| BoxyK2 | I already found the string in the source code. But I did not find the string referenced in the sources. | 20:24 |
| mterry | ah | 20:26 |
| dobey | BoxyK2: and where is that string in the source code? | 20:41 |
| BoxyK2 | let me check again | 20:44 |
| BoxyK2 | (I think it was in gnome-power-manager) | 20:44 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: hi, the .po file suggests '../data/gnome-power-manager.schemas.in.h' lines 29 and 30 | 20:45 |
| dobey | htorque: i don't see any text in that file that would be in a notification about battery capacity getting lower | 20:51 |
| dobey | at least, not in git | 20:51 |
| htorque | dobey: hm, in version 3.1.3 from 2011-07-25: "Remove the notification for battery low capacity, the feature was rejected in g-s-d (Richard Hughes)" | 20:52 |
| mterry | I thought the Ubuntu One control panel was supposed to be in Qt now? The GTK one is still on the CD | 20:56 |
| BoxyK2 | htorque: Does that mean that this error message does not exist anymore? | 20:59 |
| BoxyK2 | I don`t find the string in the source code anymore. | 21:00 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: which version of ubuntu are you using? | 21:00 |
| BoxyK2 | here I have oneiric ocelot | 21:00 |
| BoxyK2 | but at work I have an older version | 21:00 |
| BoxyK2 | (I`m not completely sure which one. But definitely older than the current one.) | 21:01 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: this notification should be gone since oneiric. in natty there is a key to disable it (/apps/gnome-power-manager/notify/low_capacity). | 21:01 |
| BoxyK2 | aaah, that makes sense. | 21:01 |
| htorque | (this is ubuntu 11.04) | 21:01 |
| htorque | to disable it, you can run: gconftool-2 -s -t boolean /apps/gnome-power-manager/notify/low_capacity false | 21:02 |
| BoxyK2 | But I don`t want to remove it, I just would like to see from which percentage of the orignal capacity this message is shown. | 21:02 |
| BoxyK2 | Do you know where I can look up that value? | 21:02 |
| sladen | is unity-2d broken for everyone or is it just me .com ? | 21:07 |
| seb128 | sladen, just you I think, or at least nobody else raised it | 21:12 |
| dobey | mterry: it is in qt now. and the gtk package shouldn't be on the cd any more. my understanding is pitti pulled it out of the desktop seed | 21:12 |
| BoxyK2 | htorque: I already checked that in the sources before but I did not find this threshold value anywhere (but I am not sure if I mixed up oneiric and natty). Do you have an idea where I can find it in natty? | 21:13 |
| dobey | mterry: hrmm. so it is on the cd still. i wonder what went wrong with that? | 21:13 |
| seb128 | dobey, cd didn't get rebuilt since | 21:14 |
| sladen | seb128: ta :) | 21:14 |
| seb128 | dobey, pitti only uploaded the source with the change today | 21:14 |
| seb128 | dobey, it should be on the CD tomorrow | 21:14 |
| sladen | sabdfl is currently keeping Florian busy, but I'll try and grab him afterwards | 21:14 |
| dobey | seb128: ah! i thought it got removed from the beta | 21:14 |
| dobey | seb128: that explains it. thanks | 21:14 |
| seb128 | yw | 21:14 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: you can download the latest version of the source code of gnome-power-manager for natty from launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/2.32.0-2ubuntu2.1 | 21:14 |
| jbicha | seb128: ah I had a minor change I added to the nautilus desktop branch, I should have said something but I didn't expect new gtk to land already | 21:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, weird that it let me push without conflict | 21:15 |
| BoxyK2 | thanks! I will check that. | 21:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, oh, crap, did I forgot to push? | 21:16 |
| jbicha | :) | 21:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I think I pushed but I didn't noticed it failed | 21:16 |
| jbicha | it's not a big deal as Unity doesn't support the new actions yet anyway | 21:17 |
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| htorque | BoxyK2: there's a bug number mentioned in the sources for that low-capacity warning, maybe it helps: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326740 | 21:18 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 326740 in gnome-power-manager "Warn user when last_full capacity has dropped considerably" [Enhancement,Resolved: wontfix] | 21:18 |
| seb128 | jbicha, can you pull --overwrite on nautilus? | 21:21 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I rebased your change over my commit and pushed --overwrite that | 21:21 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: also the code suggests, that you get the warning when the capacity drops below 50% of the "design capacity" | 21:22 |
| seb128 | jbicha, feel free to upload if you want, the earlier the better for translators | 21:22 |
| BoxyK2 | htorque: really? did you find it in the code? I just downloaded and unpacked it. | 21:22 |
| BoxyK2 | htorque: I was just reading the bug report you sent just before. | 21:23 |
| htorque | BoxyK2: check the file src/gpm-engine.c, look for the function 'gpm_engine_device_check_capacity' | 21:24 |
| htorque | but i think we are quite off-topic here... | 21:24 |
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| BoxyK2 | ok, I checked gpm-manager.c and didn`t find it. I`ll check that now. and yes, you are right, it`s off-topic. | 21:25 |
| BoxyK2 | nevertheless, thank you for your great support!!!! | 21:25 |
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| raar77 | hallo | 21:53 |
| raar77 | bin ich hier richtig wenn Ich probleme mit meonen ubuntu habe | 21:53 |
| raar77 | wenn Ich mein laptop starte habe Ich immer ein kurzen Balken in verschiedenen Farben | 21:54 |
| RAOF | raar77: While we have some German speakers here, I think you'll have better luck in #ubuntu-de | 21:54 |
| raar77 | manchmal kommt es dazu das das Bild verzehrt ist | 21:54 |
| raar77 | can you send me a Link | 21:55 |
| sladen | raar77: /join #ubuntu-de | 21:55 |
| raar77 | when i wright ubuntu de than i find A cirkus from google | 21:55 |
| sladen | raar77: #ubuntu-de ist Deutsch Sprache IRC kanal | 21:56 |
| raar77 | ok thank you i find itz | 21:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hello | 22:04 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 22:04 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 22:04 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, good | 22:05 |
| grzesag | Hi, I need help with openload and cron job. in crontab I have: */1 * * * * openload -l 1 localhost >> /home/grzesag/OpenLoad/openload_output.txt but it save jus summary and zeros thank for help | 22:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I uploaded 1.1.6 today, fixing the vcs was "fun", especially to get merge-upstream to work over the version revert | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yeah, that seems to be a big downside of bzr packages, at least the way we have them set up | 22:07 |
| robert_ancell | it lets you do things it can't handle, then it's a nightmare to repair | 22:08 |
| seb128 | right | 22:09 |
| RAOF | seb128: What was desrt suggesting you blame me for last night? | 22:11 |
| seb128 | RAOF: it's cnd to blame for I think, cf #ubuntu-x log | 22:11 |
| seb128 | RAOF, xinput return a -nan increment on i386 | 22:12 |
| seb128 | RAOF: that breaks mouse wheel scrolling in new gtk | 22:12 |
| RAOF | That's unlikely to work well! | 22:12 |
| seb128 | RAOF, indeed, I hope cnd sorts his today, I just uploaded gtk, since it's only mouse wheel scrolling, the bug is not in gtk and is on i386 only... | 22:13 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, so, do you think that weird 1.1.4 bug about not being able to log into anything was a red herring? | 22:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, one of the guy on the bug said it was specific to his account and doesn't get it with the new version | 22:13 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, with 1.1.6? | 22:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I think some people got it by 3d not working and lightdm not respecting the session selection | 22:13 |
| robert_ancell | ah | 22:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, yes, I put 1.1.6 in the ppa and one of the guys said it was working for him | 22:14 |
| robert_ancell | ok, cool | 22:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I think it was just "unity-3d is start and doesn't work on this box" | 22:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, btw do you test the system integration part, script in some way? | 22:14 |
| robert_ancell | which part? | 22:14 |
| seb128 | or is that integration test material and you don't do that yet? | 22:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the fact that lightdm was calling the x11 script with a buggy number of arguments | 22:15 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, i.e how do we know that another change will not break the x11 script parsing again? | 22:15 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I test it wraps it, but not the way it handle args. I was planning to add that, but the behaviour seems wrong to start with | 22:16 |
| robert_ancell | but then again, I want to kill that script anyway | 22:16 |
| seb128 | right | 22:16 |
| seb128 | we wondered why you had it at the first place | 22:16 |
| seb128 | rather than just calling Xsession | 22:16 |
| robert_ancell | GDM had it's own one if I remember, and I though there might be some difference | 22:17 |
| seb128 | ok, those old compat stuff are always a mess | 22:17 |
| seb128 | I hate them | 22:17 |
| robert_ancell | yeah. it's a complete mess and a terrible way to integrate stuff in | 22:17 |
| sandjkirkland | #ubuntu | 22:55 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, do you think the U-G RetainPermanent stuff was always broken and just has shown up now? | 23:08 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Possibly. That's just a guess, though. | 23:09 |
| RAOF | Other options include cairo; IIRC the X connection it's using isn't RetainPermanent, and it could be creating necessary intermediate resources. | 23:10 |
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