| InHisName | hi 2 u 2 | 00:34 |
|---|---|---|
| jthan | Anyone have relatives in Colorado or anything? | 00:41 |
| jthan | Trying to get a taste for the place. I'm going to visit pending my acceptance at the University of Colorado. | 00:42 |
| teddy-dbear | jthan: the sooner your out of here the safer my cookies will be :-D | 00:51 |
| EvilResistance | . | 00:51 |
| * EvilResistance hides the cookies in an underground bunker surrounded by force fields, energy barriers, and phaser defense systems | 00:52 | |
| jthan | Doubtful. | 00:52 |
| EvilResistance | teddy-dbear: there, you wont have to worry about anyone getting your cookies | 00:52 |
| teddy-dbear | including me :P | 00:52 |
| EvilResistance | indeed | 00:53 |
| EvilResistance | it'll protect the cookies from everyone | 00:53 |
| EvilResistance | even i dont have access | 00:53 |
| teddy-dbear | I'll take my chances | 00:54 |
| EvilResistance | oh well. i guess i'll have to use the bunker as a protected arsenal against the anarchists... | 00:57 |
| * EvilResistance prepares the bunker for this. | 00:57 | |
| teddy-dbear | and mutant turkeys | 00:58 |
| EvilResistance | indeed. | 00:58 |
| InHisName | teddy-dbear mutates cookies or turkeys ? | 01:02 |
| teddy-dbear | just dumb who ask dumb questions | 01:06 |
| InHisName | so that's what the "d" stand for: dumb | 01:08 |
| MutantTurkey | ping pong | 01:26 |
| EvilResistance | PEW PEW *BOOM* *BOOM* | 01:27 |
| EvilResistance | ^ laser cannons, huge laser bolts :P | 01:27 |
| MutantTurkey | oh ma | 01:28 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:28 |
| EvilResistance | sup | 01:28 |
| MutantTurkey | working on school stuff | 01:33 |
| MutantTurkey | midterms this week | 01:33 |
| MutantTurkey | one take home test - 3 hours long. one 6 page paper about a topic we haven't yet reached in history class. a microeconomics test thursday and a history of vietnam test thursday as well | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | and a gig friday | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | with a new guitar player and drummer who still need to learn the parts. | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | and school. | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | fkkk | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | fk fk fk fk | 01:34 |
| EvilResistance | what now | 01:36 |
| MutantTurkey | so much school work and I am gigging on friday ta some place in levittown and its a wreck | 01:37 |
| MutantTurkey | fk | 01:37 |
| MutantTurkey | :[ | 01:37 |
| InHisName | any irc experts listening: in pigin, when I had /join'ed #xyz and forgot what after rebooting. Is there a way to find out what I used to belong to last time ? | 06:11 |
| InHisName | I have 7 rooms that I autojoin and 2 more that I /join'd recently I cannot remember the last one. | 06:13 |
| EvilResistance | InHisName, not with Pidgin | 06:20 |
| EvilResistance | maybe if you had logs | 06:20 |
| EvilResistance | but idk if you get that with their irc plugin | 06:21 |
| EvilResistance | btw, dont use Pidgin for IRC | 06:21 |
| andrew | Check your log files? | 06:50 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 10:51 |
| rmg51 | morning JonathanD | 10:53 |
| JonathanD | Hi rmg51 | 10:54 |
| rmg51 | o/ | 10:58 |
| InHisName | I am logging somewhere for pigin. When I restart, it pulls up last log into window. | 13:39 |
| InHisName | Oh, yes! Good morning folks! | 13:39 |
| ChinnoDog | morning | 14:19 |
| * ChinnoDog noms some sourdough toast | 14:22 | |
| jedijf | cream of wheat here | 14:22 |
| ChinnoDog | That was never my thing | 14:25 |
| JonathanD | chicken parm here. | 14:26 |
| ChinnoDog | I ate Farina for a little while but it was hard to wash off the dishes. | 14:26 |
| ChinnoDog | and some people can't be convinced it is easier to use disposable bowls, even when numbers are provided. Kind of like global warming. | 14:27 |
| ChinnoDog | hi MutantTurkey | 14:27 |
| MutantTurkey | hey there ChinnoDog | 14:28 |
| MutantTurkey | global warming does not exist. | 14:28 |
| MutantTurkey | well not in the way proported by science. | 14:28 |
| ChinnoDog | s/science/some scientists/ | 14:29 |
| ChinnoDog | Lets blame lamalex for global warming | 14:36 |
| JonathanD | I thought it was pleia2's fault? | 14:37 |
| MutantTurkey | I'm putting my bets on ssweeny | 14:38 |
| * ssweeny knows nothing | 14:38 | |
| jedijf | philly area - we need to reach out to ntr again - by we, i mean not me, but YOU - step up, give back - we can promote linux in the area | 14:57 |
| waltman | ntr? | 14:58 |
| ChinnoDog | This is why we need PennBot | 15:00 |
| rmg51 | http://ntrweb.org/ | 15:01 |
| EvilResistance | ChinnoDog, my router is completely dead, and i'm back in Pittsburgh for Spring Break, i'll bring up a Linux system while i'm here to host PennBot until i can fix my router :/ | 15:02 |
| jedijf | actually this was spurred by a tweet by a philly rep and tech week and donations to ntr | 15:02 |
| EvilResistance | and i agree we need PennBot :/ | 15:02 |
| waltman | ah | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | I wish firefox was smarter about history | 15:13 |
| MutantTurkey | i want to blacklist all facebook photo views, all gmail pages stuff like that | 15:14 |
| MutantTurkey | just wasting my database space | 15:14 |
| MutantTurkey | i'm looking into loading my cache into a tmpfs though | 15:14 |
| MutantTurkey | should be good | 15:14 |
| MutantTurkey | now it's sucking out my cpu to delete 10k entries | 15:16 |
| waltman | Why do you care about this? | 15:20 |
| waltman | disk space is cheap. just let ff do its thing. | 15:21 |
| MutantTurkey | power | 15:21 |
| MutantTurkey | power power power | 15:21 |
| waltman | power? | 15:21 |
| MutantTurkey | because it cycles my hard drive all day for no reason on a laptop | 15:21 |
| MutantTurkey | my hard drive should not be spinning for browsing the web. | 15:21 |
| MutantTurkey | it simply should not. | 15:22 |
| waltman | sounds like premature optimization to me | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | ... | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | premature optimization? | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | whut. | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | no | 15:22 |
| waltman | you harddrive is spinning for all sorts of things | 15:22 |
| waltman | lots | 15:22 |
| waltman | logs | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | no it isn't | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | no it isn't | 15:22 |
| MutantTurkey | you're hard drive might be... | 15:22 |
| waltman | all the space you're wasting on unnecessary apostrophes... | 15:23 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't use many daemons, my syslog goes to /tmp my /tmp is mounted as a tmpfs | 15:23 |
| MutantTurkey | your' | 15:23 |
| MutantTurkey | sorry | 15:23 |
| MutantTurkey | x logs point to /dev/null | 15:23 |
| waltman | That sounds like a really bad idea. If something causes your box to crash, how do you plan on diagnosing it? | 15:24 |
| waltman | And how about swap? I assume you've got that turned off, too? | 15:24 |
| MutantTurkey | yes of course | 15:24 |
| MutantTurkey | swap is pointless. | 15:24 |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't used swap in years though | 15:24 |
| MutantTurkey | it's so pointless of | 15:24 |
| MutantTurkey | oh jeez why does anyone use it | 15:25 |
| MutantTurkey | with 4 gigs of ram - 3 gigs more than i'll ever use. why would I need swap? | 15:25 |
| waltman | So instead using swap, you've got a smaller disk cache that you could, which means more hits to your filesystem anyway. | 15:25 |
| MutantTurkey | a smaller disk cache for what? | 15:25 |
| MutantTurkey | right now my hard disk is spun down | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | just chilling | 15:26 |
| waltman | Linux is caching less disk than you could. | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | good point, but it's also not wasting hard drive writes on what ram can do | 15:26 |
| waltman | If you only want a laptop for surfing and irc, you should get a tablet. | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | no | 15:27 |
| MutantTurkey | If I want to use a laptop for surfing some times, i expect the hard drive to spin down when I am not doing any disk related work | 15:27 |
| MutantTurkey | i do plenty of real laptop work | 15:27 |
| MutantTurkey | but when I am not accessing directly, I don't expect it to be accessed randomly | 15:27 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't expect my CD drive to be running all the time when I have a CD in it, only when it's in use | 15:28 |
| waltman | I'll repeat that storing your entire /var/log in a tmpfs seems like a bad idea to me. I like the stuff I log to stick around for a while, and have it be there in between reboots. | 15:29 |
| MutantTurkey | nothing is writing to /var/log... | 15:29 |
| waltman | which is also a problem. | 15:29 |
| waltman | Someday you're going to have a problem and you won't be able to diagnose it. | 15:30 |
| MutantTurkey | not actively. | 15:30 |
| MutantTurkey | kdm does - when it logs in auth.log is written to when needed | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | thats all very nice | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | I think you are putting more cost towards being able to diagnose and maintain and fix problems, where I am stressing something else | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | my system rarely needs fixing, and when it breaks the cost of fixing it is low, so it's worth the tradeoff for me | 15:32 |
| waltman | It's because I've learned over the years that logfiles are vital. You'll learn your lesson! | 15:32 |
| MutantTurkey | meh | 15:32 |
| MutantTurkey | my systems are always stable and I'm not kidding. I don't run into crazy problems | 15:33 |
| waltman | Or you'll invest in SSDs and then you won't have to worry about spinning disks anymore :) | 15:33 |
| MutantTurkey | I will once the cost has deinflated | 15:33 |
| InHisName | Just buy a 3TB disk drive while you wait for decreasing prices. I bought a 2TB the other month for less than 99. | 15:56 |
| ChinnoDog | All my disk drives are becoming small and obsolete :-( | 15:58 |
| ChinnoDog | 2tb is bigger than all of my disks comibned | 15:58 |
| ChinnoDog | Well, excluding the 1.5tb drive I use for backups | 15:59 |
| ChinnoDog | I is a slow USB external drive | 15:59 |
| ChinnoDog | s/I/IT/ | 15:59 |
| ChinnoDog | It | 15:59 |
| ChinnoDog | sheesh | 15:59 |
| waltman | ChinnoDog: A bigger drive won't help him if his only goal is to have it not spin up. | 16:02 |
| EvilResistance | i should add that either you get an SSD and dont deal with the spinning, or live with it constantly spinning. My drive does this, too, even on Windows though, so... | 16:05 |
| EvilResistance | granted I have lots of log files being written to /var/log :P | 16:05 |
| waltman | Having /var/log on a tmpfs is madness. | 16:06 |
| waltman | But he'a a mutant. That's how they roll. | 16:07 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: OHAI | 16:07 |
| MutantTurkey | what what what | 16:07 |
| EvilResistance | lolol | 16:08 |
| jedijf | MutantTurkey: do me a favor check your ... log | 16:51 |
| MutantTurkey | which one? | 16:51 |
| MutantTurkey | and why? | 16:52 |
| jedijf | teasing | 16:52 |
| MutantTurkey | :p | 16:52 |
| jedijf | updating logo, pleia2 i'll ping we need to change site | 16:54 |
| jedijf | starting good: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1201442/ubuntu.png | 16:55 |
| jedijf | now just trying to maybe unity violet update it | 16:55 |
| EvilResistance | hehe | 16:55 |
| EvilResistance | jedijf, where would the violet go? | 16:55 |
| EvilResistance | inside the keystone? | 16:55 |
| jedijf | where the orange is | 16:55 |
| EvilResistance | replacing the orange with violet? | 16:56 |
| jedijf | did you see first attempt? yes | 16:56 |
| EvilResistance | i didnt | 16:56 |
| * EvilResistance wasnt here at the time | 16:56 | |
| jedijf | asked for channel mailing list updating months ago , now just doing it | 16:56 |
| jedijf | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1201442/ubuntu.png | 16:56 |
| EvilResistance | ah, that'd explain why i didnt see it, i've had issues with th emailing lists | 16:57 |
| EvilResistance | bleh, stupid updates | 16:57 |
| EvilResistance | my networking here will be down for a while, i'll return when its up | 16:57 |
| jedijf | the keystone is a keeper | 16:58 |
| jedijf | just have to work around it; it's a no brainer | 16:58 |
| waltman | The top of the keystone seems a tad too flat to me, but maybe that's a function of the thickness of the lines. | 17:22 |
| jedijf | now we need to be geographically correct? :p | 17:39 |
| pleia2 | jedijf: #dd4814 is the proper orange | 17:41 |
| jedijf | now i have to look at our keystone too; should wikipedia be trusted | 17:43 |
| jedijf | waltman: i now see what you are saying | 17:43 |
| jedijf | pleia2: also wanted some unity violet represented | 17:43 |
| jedijf | i sent the brand info | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:44 |
| jedijf | pleia2: waht do you think? purple out, regular circle branding inner? | 17:50 |
| jedijf | waltman: the orange one, keystone was from: http://pa.gov/portal/server.pt/community/pa_gov/20387 | 17:51 |
| MutantTurkey | what | 17:52 |
| waltman | it might just be the thick line | 17:52 |
| jedijf | nah, the wiki one looked different | 17:52 |
| jedijf | wikipedia | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | I have no design sense | 17:55 |
| jedijf | http://files.jedijf.com/Purple_logo.png | 17:56 |
| jedijf | too much purp i think | 17:56 |
| jedijf | we'll have 3 to choose from | 17:57 |
| jedijf | orange/orange purp/purp purp/orange | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | jedijf: http://design.canonical.com/2011/07/ubuntu-orange-is-dd4814/ | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | has the code for the purple too :) | 18:00 |
| jedijf | pleia2: the purple is the official one | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | hm, the design blog is saying #772953 is the right color | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | rather than #77216f | 18:05 |
| jedijf | damn artists | 18:05 |
| waltman | You can never have too much purple! | 18:06 |
| MutantTurkey | better than ubuntu's poop-colored earlier versions. i just remember everything being so brown... | 18:06 |
| jedijf | iirc there was corn strewn throughout | 18:06 |
| MutantTurkey | something like that.. | 18:06 |
| jedijf | pleia2: thanks, just sent that link. that's where we're leaving it | 18:08 |
| jedijf | pleia2: apparently there are 3 usable purples and the one orange | 18:11 |
| jedijf | hahah | 18:11 |
| jedijf | complicated colors | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | :) | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | was even worse before we had that blog post | 18:12 |
| jedijf | the comments are stoopid insane | 18:13 |
| jedijf | dictatorships ftw | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I don't read comments | 18:14 |
| jedijf | fidel never put up with that kind of stuff | 18:14 |
| MutantTurkey | myeyes | 18:46 |
| MutantTurkey | my eyess | 18:46 |
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