[00:34] hi 2 u 2 [00:41] Anyone have relatives in Colorado or anything? [00:42] Trying to get a taste for the place. I'm going to visit pending my acceptance at the University of Colorado. [00:51] jthan: the sooner your out of here the safer my cookies will be :-D [00:51] . [00:52] * EvilResistance hides the cookies in an underground bunker surrounded by force fields, energy barriers, and phaser defense systems [00:52] Doubtful. [00:52] teddy-dbear: there, you wont have to worry about anyone getting your cookies [00:52] including me :P [00:53] indeed [00:53] it'll protect the cookies from everyone [00:53] even i dont have access [00:54] I'll take my chances [00:57] oh well. i guess i'll have to use the bunker as a protected arsenal against the anarchists... [00:57] * EvilResistance prepares the bunker for this. [00:58] and mutant turkeys [00:58] indeed. [01:02] teddy-dbear mutates cookies or turkeys ? [01:06] just dumb who ask dumb questions [01:08] so that's what the "d" stand for: dumb [01:26] ping pong [01:27] PEW PEW *BOOM* *BOOM* [01:27] ^ laser cannons, huge laser bolts :P [01:28] oh ma [01:28] :P [01:28] sup [01:33] working on school stuff [01:33] midterms this week [01:34] one take home test - 3 hours long. one 6 page paper about a topic we haven't yet reached in history class. a microeconomics test thursday and a history of vietnam test thursday as well [01:34] and a gig friday [01:34] with a new guitar player and drummer who still need to learn the parts. [01:34] and school. [01:34] fkkk [01:34] fk fk fk fk [01:36] what now [01:37] so much school work and I am gigging on friday ta some place in levittown and its a wreck [01:37] fk [01:37] :[ [06:11] any irc experts listening: in pigin, when I had /join'ed #xyz and forgot what after rebooting. Is there a way to find out what I used to belong to last time ? [06:13] I have 7 rooms that I autojoin and 2 more that I /join'd recently I cannot remember the last one. [06:20] InHisName, not with Pidgin [06:20] maybe if you had logs [06:21] but idk if you get that with their irc plugin [06:21] btw, dont use Pidgin for IRC [06:50] Check your log files? [10:51] Morning. [10:53] morning JonathanD [10:54] Hi rmg51 [10:58] o/ [13:39] I am logging somewhere for pigin. When I restart, it pulls up last log into window. [13:39] Oh, yes! Good morning folks! [14:19] morning [14:22] * ChinnoDog noms some sourdough toast [14:22] cream of wheat here [14:25] That was never my thing [14:26] chicken parm here. [14:26] I ate Farina for a little while but it was hard to wash off the dishes. [14:27] and some people can't be convinced it is easier to use disposable bowls, even when numbers are provided. Kind of like global warming. [14:27] hi MutantTurkey [14:28] hey there ChinnoDog [14:28] global warming does not exist. [14:28] well not in the way proported by science. [14:29] s/science/some scientists/ [14:36] Lets blame lamalex for global warming [14:37] I thought it was pleia2's fault? [14:38] I'm putting my bets on ssweeny [14:38] * ssweeny knows nothing [14:57] philly area - we need to reach out to ntr again - by we, i mean not me, but YOU - step up, give back - we can promote linux in the area [14:58] ntr? [15:00] This is why we need PennBot [15:01] http://ntrweb.org/ [15:02] ChinnoDog, my router is completely dead, and i'm back in Pittsburgh for Spring Break, i'll bring up a Linux system while i'm here to host PennBot until i can fix my router :/ [15:02] actually this was spurred by a tweet by a philly rep and tech week and donations to ntr [15:02] and i agree we need PennBot :/ [15:03] ah [15:13] I wish firefox was smarter about history [15:14] i want to blacklist all facebook photo views, all gmail pages stuff like that [15:14] just wasting my database space [15:14] i'm looking into loading my cache into a tmpfs though [15:14] should be good [15:16] now it's sucking out my cpu to delete 10k entries [15:20] Why do you care about this? [15:21] disk space is cheap. just let ff do its thing. [15:21] power [15:21] power power power [15:21] power? [15:21] because it cycles my hard drive all day for no reason on a laptop [15:21] my hard drive should not be spinning for browsing the web. [15:22] it simply should not. [15:22] sounds like premature optimization to me [15:22] ... [15:22] premature optimization? [15:22] whut. [15:22] no [15:22] you harddrive is spinning for all sorts of things [15:22] lots [15:22] logs [15:22] no it isn't [15:22] no it isn't [15:22] you're hard drive might be... [15:23] all the space you're wasting on unnecessary apostrophes... [15:23] I don't use many daemons, my syslog goes to /tmp my /tmp is mounted as a tmpfs [15:23] your' [15:23] sorry [15:23] x logs point to /dev/null [15:24] That sounds like a really bad idea. If something causes your box to crash, how do you plan on diagnosing it? [15:24] And how about swap? I assume you've got that turned off, too? [15:24] yes of course [15:24] swap is pointless. [15:24] I haven't used swap in years though [15:24] it's so pointless of [15:25] oh jeez why does anyone use it [15:25] with 4 gigs of ram - 3 gigs more than i'll ever use. why would I need swap? [15:25] So instead using swap, you've got a smaller disk cache that you could, which means more hits to your filesystem anyway. [15:25] a smaller disk cache for what? [15:26] right now my hard disk is spun down [15:26] just chilling [15:26] Linux is caching less disk than you could. [15:26] good point, but it's also not wasting hard drive writes on what ram can do [15:26] If you only want a laptop for surfing and irc, you should get a tablet. [15:27] no [15:27] If I want to use a laptop for surfing some times, i expect the hard drive to spin down when I am not doing any disk related work [15:27] i do plenty of real laptop work [15:27] but when I am not accessing directly, I don't expect it to be accessed randomly [15:28] I don't expect my CD drive to be running all the time when I have a CD in it, only when it's in use [15:29] I'll repeat that storing your entire /var/log in a tmpfs seems like a bad idea to me. I like the stuff I log to stick around for a while, and have it be there in between reboots. [15:29] nothing is writing to /var/log... [15:29] which is also a problem. [15:30] Someday you're going to have a problem and you won't be able to diagnose it. [15:30] not actively. [15:31] kdm does - when it logs in auth.log is written to when needed [15:31] thats all very nice [15:31] I think you are putting more cost towards being able to diagnose and maintain and fix problems, where I am stressing something else [15:32] my system rarely needs fixing, and when it breaks the cost of fixing it is low, so it's worth the tradeoff for me [15:32] It's because I've learned over the years that logfiles are vital. You'll learn your lesson! [15:32] meh [15:33] my systems are always stable and I'm not kidding. I don't run into crazy problems [15:33] Or you'll invest in SSDs and then you won't have to worry about spinning disks anymore :) [15:33] I will once the cost has deinflated [15:56] Just buy a 3TB disk drive while you wait for decreasing prices. I bought a 2TB the other month for less than 99. [15:58] All my disk drives are becoming small and obsolete :-( [15:58] 2tb is bigger than all of my disks comibned [15:59] Well, excluding the 1.5tb drive I use for backups [15:59] I is a slow USB external drive [15:59] s/I/IT/ [15:59] It [15:59] sheesh [16:02] ChinnoDog: A bigger drive won't help him if his only goal is to have it not spin up. [16:05] i should add that either you get an SSD and dont deal with the spinning, or live with it constantly spinning. My drive does this, too, even on Windows though, so... [16:05] granted I have lots of log files being written to /var/log :P [16:06] Having /var/log on a tmpfs is madness. [16:07] But he'a a mutant. That's how they roll. [16:07] MutantTurkey: OHAI [16:07] what what what [16:08] lolol [16:51] MutantTurkey: do me a favor check your ... log [16:51] which one? [16:52] and why? [16:52] teasing [16:52] :p [16:54] updating logo, pleia2 i'll ping we need to change site [16:55] starting good: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1201442/ubuntu.png [16:55] now just trying to maybe unity violet update it [16:55] hehe [16:55] jedijf, where would the violet go? [16:55] inside the keystone? [16:55] where the orange is [16:56] replacing the orange with violet? [16:56] did you see first attempt? yes [16:56] i didnt [16:56] * EvilResistance wasnt here at the time [16:56] asked for channel mailing list updating months ago , now just doing it [16:56] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1201442/ubuntu.png [16:57] ah, that'd explain why i didnt see it, i've had issues with th emailing lists [16:57] bleh, stupid updates [16:57] my networking here will be down for a while, i'll return when its up [16:58] the keystone is a keeper [16:58] just have to work around it; it's a no brainer [17:22] The top of the keystone seems a tad too flat to me, but maybe that's a function of the thickness of the lines. [17:39] now we need to be geographically correct? :p [17:41] jedijf: #dd4814 is the proper orange [17:43] now i have to look at our keystone too; should wikipedia be trusted [17:43] waltman: i now see what you are saying [17:43] pleia2: also wanted some unity violet represented [17:44] i sent the brand info [17:44] :) [17:50] pleia2: waht do you think? purple out, regular circle branding inner? [17:51] waltman: the orange one, keystone was from: http://pa.gov/portal/server.pt/community/pa_gov/20387 [17:52] what [17:52] it might just be the thick line [17:52] nah, the wiki one looked different [17:52] wikipedia [17:55] I have no design sense [17:56] http://files.jedijf.com/Purple_logo.png [17:56] too much purp i think [17:57] we'll have 3 to choose from [17:57] orange/orange purp/purp purp/orange [18:00] jedijf: http://design.canonical.com/2011/07/ubuntu-orange-is-dd4814/ [18:00] has the code for the purple too :) [18:04] pleia2: the purple is the official one [18:04] hm, the design blog is saying #772953 is the right color [18:05] rather than #77216f [18:05] damn artists [18:06] You can never have too much purple! [18:06] better than ubuntu's poop-colored earlier versions. i just remember everything being so brown... [18:06] iirc there was corn strewn throughout [18:06] something like that.. [18:08] pleia2: thanks, just sent that link. that's where we're leaving it [18:11] pleia2: apparently there are 3 usable purples and the one orange [18:11] hahah [18:11] complicated colors [18:12] :) [18:12] was even worse before we had that blog post [18:13] the comments are stoopid insane [18:13] dictatorships ftw [18:14] yeah, I don't read comments [18:14] fidel never put up with that kind of stuff [18:46] myeyes [18:46] my eyess