[00:14] <ScottL> knome, ack
[00:14] <ScottL> knome, my wife is coming home early tonight so i plan to spend some dedicated time to this
[00:14] <ScottL> len, i'm updating my precise install currently and then i'll test the -default-setting package for the menu/panel
[00:15] <ScottL> micahg, i apologize for putting you on the spot in the TB meeting today
[00:15] <ScottL> micahg, and it seems that you become more entwined with studio at each passing as well
[00:15] <knome> ScottL, "this" == wife or the site? :)
[00:17] <ScottL> heh, the site actually
[00:17] <ScottL> :P
[00:17] <knome> so any ETA?
[00:18] <micahg> ScottL: heh, I want to help you be viable, one of the requirements is developers with upload rights
[00:19] <micahg> that's why I stated that I'd help sponsor, but not commit to work on stuff
[00:20] <ScottL> knome, probably in two or three hours to review the website and make notes
[00:21] <knome> right... that's too late for me :)
[00:21] <knome> if you have lots of comments, send an email
[00:21] <knome> otherwise, PM or chan messages with nick are ok
[00:21] <ScottL> micahg, i very seriously appreciate your involvement and i hope to learn much
[00:22] <ScottL> knome, ack
[00:22] <knome> i believe both of the projects have gained from the cooperation this cycle, and there's no reason why we shouldn't try to continue and build it
[00:25] <ScottL> i definitely agree with continuing, but i feel like studio has gotten more out of the relationship at this point
[00:27] <knome> probably
[00:28] <knome> at least in terms of lines of code :P
[00:28] <knome> but that isn't everything that should count, is it
[06:12] <stochastic> ScottL, knome I just want to give the current layout the majority of my blessing to go through staging.  It's a great looking site knome has put together.  All of my remaining critiques are centred around content polishing - something I'll try to tackle in between my other projects.
[09:34] <knome> ScottL, i know you're probably not available, but...
[09:34] <knome> ScottL, if you are, ping
[10:02] <knome> ScottL, ETA on staging is today-tomorrow, it seems :)
[10:02] <knome> ScottL, once we are there, i'll move the content quickly to the new site
[12:43] <scott-upstairs> good morning knome, i have a few comments for the website
[12:44] <scott-upstairs> knome,  i would add two more pages that will also show up in the main "menu bar":  FL/OSS ethos (or something similar, stochastic might have better name) and FAQ
[12:45] <scott-upstairs> knome, also i would ask that "blog" and "scott lavender" be removed from the "Article Categories" in the right side bar
[12:45] <scott-upstairs>  
[12:45] <scott-upstairs> stochastic, i seem to remember that you did not want the news feed on the front page, is that correct
[12:46] <scott-upstairs> (not that i hold a counter position, i'm just trying to remember)
[12:46] <scott-upstairs>  
[12:46] <scott-upstairs> i did spend a little time this morning (actually more than i intended) cleaning up the "tour" areas
[12:47] <scott-upstairs> i think the major pages of the tour should solely focus on the work flows we support "out of the box"
[12:47] <scott-upstairs> i would certainly not object to another page that mentioned other "non-supported" (i.e. not installed out-of-the-box) work flows and a link to those wiki pages
[12:47] <scott-upstairs>  
[12:48] <scott-upstairs> knome, do you think we should have a "end of tour" or "thanks for looking at the tour" page?
[12:55] <scott-upstairs>  
[12:56] <scott-upstairs> knome, nevermind about the FAQ or FL/OSS pages, i was able to make them and place under main menu
[12:56] <scott-upstairs> mainly i believe we need these pages and just wanted to at least get a place holder with minimal text before staging
[12:56] <scott-upstairs>  
[12:57] <scott-upstairs> stochastic, knome, we had previously discussed a social feed on the bottom right corner, did we still want to do this?
[12:58] <scott-upstairs> i suppose we can always put it in to get into staging/published and then remove it later if we do not need/want it
[13:01] <ScottL> i'm getting kids ready and then leaving for work
[14:57] <len> scott-work, Just two quick things. One is that above you were talking about supported vs unsupported uses of US. Ubuntu calls them "shipped" and "supported". While it doesn't matter what we call them on irc it may make sense on our web site to use the same words as ubuntu.
[14:58] <len> That is we don't ship these apps, but we do envision US being used this way and support that to some extent.
[14:59] <len> unsupported means we suggest you don't use things that way.
[15:00] <scott-work> len: good points
[15:00] <len> settings testing: to test settings (you probably know this... just making sure) Most changes to settings only work at first login
[15:01] <len> I have found the best way to test settings changes is to create a new user. The new settings get imported the first time you login
[15:02] <len> scott-work then if I change something, I delete that new user (and directories) and recreate them.
[15:03] <len> I have been able to just take the installed user and wipe the home directory too, but then I have to recopy /etc/skel before login. and it has to be done from console (I think)
[15:08] <len> Oh and testing. I don't have as much time right now as I would like... but I would like to test upgrading from both 11.10 and the last LTS. I guess that means two installs one on top of the other. It's the only test I havn't done so far as just having a working install from bare disk has been much more important. I will try to do these tests soon unless there is something else needed first.
[15:08] <len> I'm off to work.
[15:12] <scott-work> len: agreed about testing, i would like to do those tests as well, but am lacking time as well
[15:12] <scott-work> i really think the ubiquity plugin and the theming of lightdm will have to wait until next cycle
[15:13] <scott-work> i still would like to address the app menu icon, the menu structure, and panels as we have already discussed however
[15:13] <scott-work> and there are the new images for plymouth, lightdm, desktop that i would like to udpate
[15:13] <scott-work> along with including some images for desktop that have been rquested on the mailing list
[15:13] <scott-work> i'm sure there are other thing but i need to consult the roadmap properly to look at them
[15:14] <scott-work> i hope to start making bzr commits for the icon, menu, and panels tonight - this might take two nights to accomplish properly though
[15:15] <scott-work> i really want to segregate these commits per micah's comments because i begin to see how this could be really helpful later on to revert something or understand exactly _what_ changes were done for a particular thing
[15:17] <scott-work> oh, len, i appreciate your help and would like to help you with building packages
[16:00] <knome> scott-work, easier to try it now. trying it on staging is slooow :|
[16:03] <knome> scott-work, categories removed. should i remove the articles too?
[18:33] <scott-work> knome: if it is easy enough or will provide benifit later, i don't think the articles are really of any importance
[18:35] <holstein> yeah, i say, KISS, and lets get it up!