[00:14] FOR THE LULZ https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671510 [00:14] Gnome bug 671510 in general "GCalcTool does honor the precedence of operators" [Major,Unconfirmed] [00:16] FernandoMiguel, I think whoever filed that bug is missing something important,. [00:17] Daekdroom: such as? [00:17] There's no way gcalctool can tell where the denominator ends. [00:18] So it presumes it's only one number, instead of all the set of operations after / [00:33] alt+printscreen+k is supposed to close x, but i think a bug in my ATI drivers causes it to lock up my pc. is this a bug, where do I file on launchpad? [00:36] kanliot: I think you could run ubuntu-bug and report a display problem [00:37] kanliot, don't you have to press CRTL too? [00:37] ubuntu bug needs a package, um, i guess i can figure out what package i'm using [00:37] hehe good try i'm not testing it :) [00:37] you try it first :) [00:38] Turns out you don't. [00:38] I thought that because Alt + PrntScreen is a shortcut for a PrintScreen, you'd need Crtl too, but I just tested it and it works with only Alt + PrintScreen + k [00:39] And I'm using the radeon driver. So it might be Catalyst indeed. [00:41] zzecool: you here [00:41] ? [00:47] Can somebody explain "/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 48 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it." ? [00:48] I'm not dualbooting at all. [00:54] Who's FlexNet [00:54] Hmm Wikipedia says it's some type of licensing [00:55] andrewaclt: try running "sudo update-grub" [00:56] glosoli, yes, looks like some kind of drm crap [00:56] glosoli, I ran that and it executed fine, no errors [00:56] So you tryed running that command ? [00:56] rebooted after that ? [00:56] no [00:57] Does that flush the boot track? [00:57] or is that just fdsik? [00:57] I'm getting occasional kernel panics with 12.04. I've never had any [00:57] kernel panics with 11.10. [00:57] glosoli: yes [00:58] andrewaclt: I am not sure, just try it [00:58] zzecool: go sleep :D [00:58] glosoli: i will soon [00:58] :D [00:59] i was trying to import the old ios 3 db to my iphone with ios5 [00:59] zzecool: Are you having laptop ? [00:59] i made it after all :D [00:59] zzecool: I wana ask if you got DIM problems [00:59] yes [00:59] i have [00:59] but i have the solution [00:59] let me go wc [01:00] ill tell you [01:00] brb [01:00] zzecool: Try running it on battery set brightness to lowest, then don't do anything for about 30 seconds, it should do dim screen, then move mouse cursor and boom [01:04] Anyone else having WiFi troubles? When I'm on a WPA-PSK network, my WiFi gets blocked every half an hour or so. Very random, no set duration, and I get a "group rekeying" message on syslog right before WiFi gets blocked. Sandy Bridge i7, iwlagn driver, precise [01:04] By "blocked" I mean, I don't get disconnected from the network, but all network access shuts off. The browser, and all network accessing programs time out [01:05] I need to run a sudo killall wpa_supplicant to fix the issue. [01:05] im always on wpa and dont have any problem [01:05] I think it has something to do with the driver [01:05] glosoli: first of all [01:06] i have a sony vaio and the brightness doesnt work out of the box [01:06] since I don't have this problem on Oneiric, and on my Precise I've cleaned all NM settings, and have even tried ConnMan [01:06] zzecool: aaa sony ass [01:06] im using a tool [01:07] called smartdimmer [01:07] im using it with a script [01:07] zzecool: what's that tool for ? [01:07] dimming on nvidia vgas [01:08] http://www.toforge.com/2011/02/sony-vaio-brightness-control-script-for-ubuntu-geforce-cards/ [01:09] Doh [01:09] brightness are the only function keys that doesnt work out of the box [01:09] in this sony [01:09] thank god [01:09] all the other working fine [01:11] as i thought libgpod4 is broken for ios5 [01:11] i cant sync music [01:11] ....... [01:12] can't help laughing [01:13] :/ [01:15] lol === emma is now known as em [01:19] starting price was 778 euros i think or 768 [01:19] i dont remember exactly [01:19] i paid 238 [01:19] oups [01:19] wrong channel :D glosoli [01:20] how can I change the color scheme ? im running ubuntu 12 and xchat and nautilus are blinding me. i believe xchat can do it but .... how about nautilus? [01:20] im on unity by the way [01:23] hoshi411: you need themes [01:23] so i was able to change the colors for inside the chat window but .... how about the rest? [01:23] and gnome-tweak [01:23] zzecool: themes for unity? [01:23] for ubuntu 12? [01:23] themes for GTK [01:23] if I want to install the beta on a fresh windows system is it better to install 11.10 and upgrade or install from the beta iso directly? [01:23] beta iso [01:24] glosoli: tons of updates today [01:24] :D [01:24] im downloading 69 more [01:25] zzecool: yeeee :/ [01:26] hoshi411: the tool for the themes called : gnome-tweak-tool [01:26] hoshi411: after you install it open the dash and type advanced , its the one called advanced settings [01:26] good luck [01:27] its work both for unity and gnome shell [01:31] bilal: this debian bug seems to have the same sort of issues you are seeing, the last post from yesterday indicates a fix may show up in the upstream kernel soon: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651199 [01:31] Debian bug 651199 in linux-2.6 "linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64: Connection lost on WPA: Group rekeying" [Important,Fixed] [01:31] hmm... pulseaudio -k shouldn't probably kill gnome-shell? :) [01:32] trism: Thanks for pointing it out, you beat me at googling :) I had been searching for bug reports on this for a long time, but never found that one! [01:34] zzecool: thanks, i imagine that only gtk3 engines are going to work with the tweak tool correct? [01:34] i think it support gkt2 too [01:35] im not sure tho [01:35] maybe im wrong [01:35] It handles both as long as the GTK2 and GTK3 themes are together. [01:35] hmm ... not showing up , the ones that I installed... for example nodoka [01:35] my favorite is nodoka-midnight [01:36] ahh [01:36] i think oi have a solution for you then [01:36] wait [01:36] hoshi411: :) [01:36] :D [01:37] as long as i don't have to do anything dirty [01:37] im uncomfortable with "the grey area" [01:38] does anyone here use gnome-shell and know why the battery meter is not updating? [01:40] hoshi411: i cant find it now [01:41] zzecool, its cool [01:41] : ) [01:41] thanks for trying though [01:41] found it [01:41] :D [01:41] wait [01:42] bilal: after a bit more searching, it seems that specific patch is already included in 3.2.0-18.28 to fix bug 911059, but it seems some people are still having problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/948235 [01:42] Launchpad bug 948235 in linux (Ubuntu) "Intel wireless still randomly drops connection" [Medium,Confirmed] [01:42] Launchpad bug 911059 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "Intel wireless randomly drops connection" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/911059 [01:43] hoshi411: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:satyajit-happy/themes [01:44] hoshi411: then open synaptic refresh and add the 3 themes that you will find in this ppa [01:44] To install grub, is it sufficient to simply grub-install /dev/hda or do I have to do anything special after wiping my MBR [01:44] there is an elementary dark that looks very close to your theme [01:44] :d [01:51] andrewaclt, what is the problem overall? [01:51] I install ubuntu to a windows pc (completely overwriting windows), but I get this error "/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 48 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future.". I was going to dd over the mbr and reinstall grub to fix? [01:52] That error is when I just apt-upgrade and it tried to install grub, not in the installer [01:52] andrewaclt, flexnet is a problem, I thought grub had been adjusted, you might ask on the ubuntu forums. [01:53] andrewaclt, you just have ubuntu now? [01:53] But, if I just dd over the mbr, Flexnet will be gone, yes? [01:53] Yeah, just ubuntu, no windows [01:53] andrewaclt, yeah dd it. :) [01:54] I just wanted to make sure that the correct step after dding was "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" and I didn't have to pass some ubuntu specific configuration stuff [01:54] andrewaclt, you have grub 2 right its sda [01:55] Yeah [01:55] Well, I'm not sure it's sda. fstab looks funny these days, with UUIDs heh [01:55] andrewaclt, you know the dd is just lessm that 512 right [01:55] less than [01:56] andrewaclt: more ppl having this kind of problem [01:56] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1605076.html [01:57] Fyodorovna, good call [01:57] I just want 446 and not the full 512 [01:57] right? [01:57] zzecool, the grub maintainer colin I think the name is was working on this a while back I surprised anyone has a problem. [01:58] It seems like there is a safer way that I could tell grub to overwrite everything [01:58] andrewaclt, not sure exactly I just know if you go the full 512 it breaks the partition table. [01:58] Fyodorovna, Yes, that's my understanding, so we can't have that [01:59] not a good thing. :) [02:02] zzecool, thanks, installing now [02:04] np [02:08] hows unity in 12.04? majorly improved? [02:08] Yes. [02:08] Much snappier. [02:09] I guess I'll have to give that a try. [02:09] KUbuntu has been quite horrible so far. [02:09] was wondering the same [02:09] im on kde 4.8 in archlinux [02:09] i just dont likegnome shell [02:10] I like both Gnome Shell and Unity on concept level but both of them need much more work. [02:10] If the good ideas of both were combined, I'd be very happy already :) [02:11] + a little bit more room for configuration, e.g. allow one to disable screen blanking. [02:13] well i need something different [02:15] Tronic: screen blanking? [02:16] jbicha: Turns off your display after one hour. [02:17] Tronic: have you looked at gnome-control-center screen ? [02:18] jbicha: The last time I did, the maximum was one hour and the "Never" option from Gnome 2 was missing. [02:18] Tronic: Never is there [02:19] It is there indeed [02:19] Kubuntu has that same problem, actually. The default (if checkbox not selected) is about 10 minutes and the maximum value permitted is 360 minutes. [02:20] jbicha: Okay, I guess it has been fixed at some point. [02:20] Tronic: you could also play with dconf-editor and look in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power but I think Ubuntu has patched System Settings which is easier [02:21] 12.04 beta 1 is the latest and greatest? [02:21] Just checked on my laptop (with Unity) and yes, the setting is there. I found it missing with Gnome Shell but that I cannot test right now. [02:23] pdkl: There is only one version of Precise - the current one. [02:30] burning it :P [02:31] there are the daily build iso's i recall.. but those can be flakey at times. [02:31] wonder how much of a performance hit im going to take switching to ubuntu [02:31] depends on the details pdkl === log is now known as log_ === log_ is now known as log [02:43] I'm currently logged into ubuntu-12.04-beta1-desktop-amd64 on my desktop but there's no visible mouse; I can still click things (like the top-right icons.) I experienced the same thing after I did an "ubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternative-amd64" install; there was no visible mouse while trying to log in or even while logged in: I had to rely on the "Click Ctrl to highlight cursor position." The system said it was up to date. Right now I'm [02:43] at the very first screen with "Try Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu" tl;dr: no /visible/ mouse. What gives? [02:49] ricky-1: Which GPU & drivers do you have? [02:52] Tronic, I have an ATI HD5850, running with free/standard (?) drivers. Whichever drivers support that card by default [02:52] I haven't installed any GPU drivers [02:53] Someone suggested I stop X and "set it up myself" so far I've `sudo service lightdm stop`'d and am logged in via console [02:53] Not sure what to do next; that was next on my to-google list [02:53] rather, they suggested I not rely on hotplugging and set it manually* [02:54] Would that help? I mean, the system knows the mouse is there. It's just not visible [03:02] hey guys, ever since I updated to 12.04, my machine has been hanging on the shutdown animation about half the time. The other half, it shuts down fine with no problems. Are there any known instances of that, or any troubleshooting / evidence gathering tips? [03:06] also, internet searches seem to point to acpi being the most common culprit, and that disabling part of it can sometimes fix it. But I like the benefits of acpi... if I don't find a solution (or don't like the solution), do I need to worry about it if I just have to do a hard shutdown half the time? [03:16] quantumlemur, could that be a network interface errors? check your log files for any errors [03:23] scriptwarlock, hmm, I can't find anything, but then again I'm not totally sure where to look in the logs, or what to look for [03:24] "Could not install the upgrades" - Error during commit. Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle. <- got that error trying to install 12.04 beta. ideas? [03:25] quantumlemur, /var/log//syslog? [03:26] scriptwarlock, that's where I focused my efforts, but didn't find anything obvious. Is there a tag where a shutdown is initiated? I searched for HALT and SHUTDOWN and whatnot. [03:27] quantumlemur, have you tried somewhere on acpi boot options? [03:29] quantumlemur, something like acpi=off kernel param? actually never done this on newer ubuntus [03:29] quantumlemur, my machine is bahaving normally [03:30] scriptwarlock, I haven't tried the acpi options yet. I'll try those in a bit and report back... any other suggestions in the mean time? [03:32] Hello? I wanna do the remote control from other desktop. could you tell me how to set. I am running 12.04LTS beta. [03:33] can anyone help me? [03:33] is there a way to show the "full path" of the current view in the file browser? [03:33] North: what do you need? [03:33] I wanna do the remote control from other desktop. could you tell me how to set? [03:34] quantumlemur, verbose mode on shutdown i guess can let you see the text stuff [03:34] North: ssh or vnc/etc [03:34] scriptwarlock, oh, yeah, that could be helpful, thanks [03:34] North, enable the remote desktop [03:35] Dmole: it might seem I need the detailed instruction. [03:35] scriptwarlock: how can I set it? [03:35] North just type "remote" into the search bar [03:35] North, open desktop sharing [03:36] North: (in "dash home") [03:37] i have been using 8.04LTS. I an not familiar with this 12.04LTS beta. [03:37] i feel tough a little bit. [03:37] North, check box: allow other users and allow other users to control, if thats your own machine untick must confirm, require paswd, and check auto configure upnp [03:39] scriptwarlock: I did set it as your saying. Now I wanna try to remote from other desktop that has Windows OS. Any comment? [03:39] North, wth you never told us your working on a windows machine [03:39] I cannot use the remote desktop connection on the Windows OS PC. [03:40] scriptwarlock: do I need to install the VNC viewer again? [03:40] North, you can use vnc for windows [03:41] scriptwarlock: OK let me try [03:41] North: I like NX but it's not simple to setup [03:41] Dmole: :) [03:42] North, you are on your own when configuring windows remote, i'm done with m$ [03:42] North: youtube is your friend (I did not preview this) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCQeNXr7Eg [03:43] we are all M$ H8ers around here [03:43] not actually never hate but dont like using my time for it [03:45] Dmole: Are you serious? [03:45] semantics :) [03:46] North: serious about what? [03:47] North: haha the link was temvewer yah don't do that, but I'm sure you can find something [03:48] was using teamviewer and its quit simple no more configs on router [03:48] I think there are 4 ish options for direct connect NX VNC freeNX thatother one [03:48] Dmole: you said we are all M$ H8ers around here. [03:49] thanks to you, I succeded [03:50] North: using any OS without a unaversal API (the CLI) and the closed nature is just not worth any effort [03:51] OSX is nice though [03:53] Dmole: I understand what you said from the view of computer user. [03:54] Dmole: on the other hand , User needs the professional technical support like M$ has been doing. [03:57] North, we have free support from the community and paid from canonical(enterprise?) [03:57] scriptwarlock: oh really? [03:58] scriptwarlock: another question, how can I put the terminal on the launch button panel? [03:59] North, obviously what we are doing now is a free support, right? [03:59] right click it I believe [03:59] North, [03:59] North:and then there is redhat THE "professional" OS M$ can't hold a a candle to that star [03:59] North, you using unity? [04:00] scriptwarlock: sorry I do not know what unity is . [04:01] North: yes run it the right click on the icon and "lock to launcher" [04:01] North, your in ubuntu+1 irc supposed your using 12.04 [04:01] Previously (ie: in 10.10), I could execute `sudo service gdm stop` to stop GUI and drop into a terminal. That doesn't seem to work now. What is the proper way to drop out of fancy X and GUI-land now? [04:02] ricky-1, you mean ctrl+alt+f1? [04:02] that too, but what if I need to stop X [04:02] ricky-1: substitute lightdm for gdm [04:02] jbicha, ah, thanks [04:06] ah! to get a path from nautilus drag the folder into terminal [04:06] scriptwarlock: yes, I am using 12.04 [04:07] North, have you done what Dmole suggested? [04:08] scriptwarlock: yes ihave done. [04:09] A lot of crash reports poped up. it annoies me [04:09] North, yeah what is beta [04:10] How odd... i connected my android device to my pulseaudio server, and the audio was silent until the very instant i connected to vnc. [04:10] Connected over bluetooth, that is. Server as sink. [04:10] North: did you "apt-get update;apt-get -y dist-upgrade;"? [04:11] Server is on Precise. [04:11] Dmole: I will do it now. [04:12] DanaG: pulse only starts with a userlogin by default [04:12] scriptwarlock: if I minimize the certain window, how can i know that a window is opened? [04:12] I tweaked it two ways: system daemon, and lightdm autologin. [04:13] what is the super key? when maximizing the window, it requires super + Up? [04:14] North: the "windows" [04:14] key [04:14] or mac [04:14] North, i set my unity panel icons backlight>active icons on [04:14] it's lunch time. I will be back to you soon. [04:15] pressing down the super key displays the keyboard shortcuts [04:15] Argh, need to switch to laptop. [04:16] What would the proper way to get my fresh 12.04 install up-to-date using CLI apt-get be? Simply `apt-get update`, then `apt-get upgrade`? [04:16] last time i used the GUI it crashed halfway through [04:17] "apt-get update;apt-get -y dist-upgrade;" [04:17] ricky-1, update manager can handle the update that requires admin password [04:18] scriptwarlock, I got a segfault halfway through, after reboot it said something about partial upgrade so I let it, then i dont remember... but things werent looking up [04:19] if it fails again just reinstall (it only takes a minute [04:20] ricky-1, ah yes sometimes i bumped with that msg terminal can save the day :) [04:22] hashsum mismatch T_T [04:22] which repo? [04:24] precise/main? libreoffice-draw and libemempi. ran upgrade again and it didnt complain... [04:44] Dmole: it's strange the windows key works on Ubuntu. [04:45] scriptwarlock: how did you set unity panel icons bakclight.active icons? [04:47] North, install myunity [04:49] ScriptRipper, using apt-get? [04:49] North, ? [04:49] yes [04:50] it's me [04:50] North, yep apt-get install or thru usc [05:01] Can someone help me figure out why my mouse is simply invisible? It works, I can move it and click stuff; I just can't see it. I have to use the "Pressing Ctrl highlights cursor position" option in settings. [05:03] ricky-1, is that a ps2 or usb mouse [05:03] both [05:03] I can use either [05:03] heh, I love how the update-checking window resizes spastically. [05:04] ... to fit the strings inside it. [05:04] ricky-1, and mouse is generic? [05:04] scriptwarlock, yea [05:05] I'm going to try installing proprietary GPU drivers [05:05] /shrug [05:09] ricky-1, check if you have hwcursor on your xorg.conf [05:11] scriptwarlock, I don't know where xorg.conf is located any more [05:11] ricky-1, yaiks i forgot [05:13] it's been deprecated since karmic I believe [05:13] at least having a default one has been [05:16] oh yeah, so my server isn't completely headless... it has a sucky ASPEED remote access card... that sometimes can't be remote-accessed. [05:16] But anyway, that "local" interface automatically logs in as me, and then locks. [05:17] ricky-1, you mentioned gpu have you installed yet? [05:20] ati hd 5850 [05:20] @scriptwarlock [05:20] first attempt failed [05:21] hi, how do i get 32-bit binaries working with wine on 64-bit? [05:21] ia32-libs is still broken [05:21] ricky-1, ubuntu 12.04 right? [05:22] hmm, is fglrx known to be working at this point? I'd be surprised if so. [05:22] Considering their usual lag. [05:24] ricky-1, been here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [05:26] interesting... it's using llvmpipe. [05:27] scriptwarlock, Yes, 12.04 b1. I haven't been there. I will look in a second. I'm /assuming/ the "(post release)" ati driver is what crashed jockey-gtk; after I re-ran it, the non "post release" driver seemed to activate just fine [05:27] oh hey [05:27] theres a mouse [05:30] What is the difference between the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver and the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver ? [05:32] ricky-1, best answer driver and the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver ? [05:32] oops [05:32] i meant [05:32] ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver and ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates_ [05:32] my bad [05:33] ricky-1, http://askubuntu.com/a/66711 [05:33] ricky-1, best answer [05:33] ah [05:33] thanks [05:36] brb [05:54] i dont know.. but the latest fglrx.. is broken [05:54] amd needs to be administered with fatal beatings [06:00] oh interesting.. so the solution to unity not working with the latest fglrx [06:00] is to use the older fglrx [06:00] even though it has known issues which were resolved with the later fglrx [06:01] well done [06:27] does ubuntu use fdisk to make msdos lables? [06:28] or is it all GNU parted? [06:34] scientes, gparted? [06:37] gparted is unlikely, but parted (which gparted is a front end for) is likely [07:52] Hi to all! RAID boot problem on 12.04b1 - more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/871230/ - Any ideas? [08:17] what package does the indicator-brightness role now? I have no brightness slider but xbacklight works as does the /sys files === jbicha is now known as Guest38686 [08:22] Where should I ask about the logon screen in Precise? [08:23] Namely, I need to be able to add keyboard layouts in some GUI... and I need to ask is that possible? [08:23] Anybody on this channel knows this? [08:23] I don't have an answer but lightdm is the package you are talking about [08:26] isn't it some kind of 'greeter' over lightdm? [08:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/915468 [08:26] Launchpad bug 915468 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Precise) "the unity-greeter keyboard's selection doesn't respect the user config" [High,Fix released] [08:27] theres the bug [08:27] I was just in the middle of the bug report list [08:27] thanks [08:28] It is working for me but I only have two keyboards [08:28] hm... actually this one is that it does not respect some config file [08:29] oh, do you not even have the selector? [08:29] do you know if there is a logon-screen GUI where you can set the layout to any arbitrary? [08:29] is there one? [08:29] you can with the current one but you need to install the keyboards [08:29] I can click "en", but it's just en [08:29] which keyboards? [08:29] a package? [08:30] go the "gear" in the upper right hand corner and go to "system settings' [08:30] click on keyboard layout and you will see where you can add more [08:31] ok, I can add keyboards there [08:31] but that's only after I log in [08:31] there's no gear on the logon screen [08:31] they will be there when you log out too [08:31] after you add them that is [08:32] I added "Bambara" keyboard, but the logon screen shows me just pl [08:32] actually, I believe I have english locales installed as well, but there's no "en" keyboard [08:33] yeah, it seems that the user keyboard list has no correlation to the logon screen [08:33] odd, I just added bambra and logged out and it was there [08:34] (I guess that's the bug for...) [08:34] but that's too late, I mean, I need to be able to provide more keyboards to the user who has never logged in [08:34] you know, OEM [08:35] it is offering it for me, here let me reboot and make sure [08:35] maybe I am using a different menu? [08:36] ok, I can see I have an update to lightdm package available [08:36] will try that [08:39] I think you would have to preseed the languages you wanted to have [08:42] well... I upgraded, but I cannot see the languages on the logon screen [08:42] are the preseed values in the templates of lightdm? [08:44] yes I am not sure where, I only have to deal with a few languages per location [08:47] but still that's asomething you preseed, right? [08:48] Quesiton, can we add the system monitor to the top bar in Unity? [08:48] the seed is not in lightdm [09:02] my eyes are burning [09:02]