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JanCbut really, hotmail sucks a lot less than gmail00:00
popeylol00:00
jo-erlend_hehe, that's simply not true. :)00:00
JanCit *is* true nowadays (from a ML admin perspective)00:01
jo-erlend_I receive so much spam from hacked hotmail accounts that I could probably make a fortune if I went into the blackmail business.00:01
JanCmy spam filters work well  ;)00:02
JanCit's the legitimate mail that is a problem with GMail  ;)00:02
jo-erlend_I don't think most people realize that their contact lists are sensitive information. Particularly if you spend your time corresponding with "hornyboy 13" and you're a 50 yearold man.00:02
popeybodhizazen: have you guys considered branching the ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu and proposing a branch containing the patch you request?00:03
bodhizazenIt would be rather trivial to do that, there is a post on the forms to do that00:04
bodhizazenPersonally I think the page should list Forums, askubuntu, irc, and LP00:04
jo-erlend_I'd very much like for it to promote LoCos where applicable.00:05
bodhizazenI know the point is to keep it simple, but some people have expressed a strong interest in one vs another00:05
jo-erlend_we're having serious issues in the Norwegian LoCo now. I don't even know where to begin.00:05
bodhizazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11743611&postcount=700:06
popeyI didnt think anyone had disagreed that the forums should be listed00:06
bodhizazenIt would be easy enough to update the content00:07
popeyyup, so do it? ☺00:07
cprofitthey popey00:07
popeyyo cprofitt00:07
cprofitthow ya been?00:07
popeytickety boo00:08
JanC+1 on making this localised  ☺00:08
cprofittyou are up kinda late there popey00:12
popeyyeah, watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/00:14
popeyclassic ☺00:14
* cprofitt nods00:15
cprofittI am waiting to see the new version of a classic book -- John Carter of Mars00:15
cprofittit releases this week00:15
cprofittone of the first scifi books I read00:16
JanCsomething new about the new version?00:26
cprofittJanC: yes... they just made a film of John Carter of Mars00:33
cprofittI believe it is the second film00:33
cprofittthe other being a B movie at best00:33
cprofitthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rf55GTEZ_E -- trailer00:34
jcastrohey cjohnston00:56
cjohnstonhey01:01
jcastrostand by01:03
jcastroone sec01:03
jcastroI have something to show you01:03
jcastromhall119: you too01:03
cjohnstonk01:03
jcastrohey so you know how we use blueprints for a TODO system right01:05
jcastroand we make you parse it01:05
jcastroand that's a horrible idea01:05
cjohnstonthe new lp changes?01:06
jcastrono, status.ubuntu.com01:06
jcastroyou know how you basically have to parse the TODOs01:06
jcastroand all this stuff01:06
cjohnstonright. theres lp changes coming down the pipe, but yes01:06
jcastrowhat if ....01:07
jcastroinstead of this, you had a nice API for a todo system you could use and consume.01:07
jcastromarcoceppi: ok now. :)01:08
cjohnstonthat would be nice01:08
jcastrook one sec01:09
jcastrocjohnston: pay no attention to the marco behind the counter01:09
jcastrohttp://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro01:10
jcastrohttp://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=mhall11901:11
jcastroand so on01:11
cjohnstoninteresting01:12
cjohnstonwhat does that pull from01:12
jcastromy trello boards01:13
jcastrowhich has an API01:13
cjohnstonahh01:13
jcastroso the idea is01:13
jcastroyou make "todo" "next" "in progress" "done"01:13
jcastrocolumns01:13
jcastroand then this takes them all up and shows them together01:13
jcastroso I have like my "juju" board, my "community board", etc.01:13
marcoceppiRight, it pulls all the cards you're attached to in Trello01:15
cjohnstoni dont really see that replacing what we currently have01:15
jcastroright, because we're ubuntu01:15
jcastroI get that01:15
jcastrobut pretend I want to use the right tools for the right job for a sec. :)01:15
cjohnstonlol01:15
cprofittjcastro: I had to postpone the askubuntu.com taks I had01:16
cjohnstonjcastro: did you see my ping from a few hours ago?01:16
jcastrocjohnston: which ones?01:16
jcastrocprofitt: ok01:16
cjohnstonabout the status of the charm01:17
cjohnstonhe is back this week right?01:17
jcastrohe is01:17
jcastrohe's working on it today, tomorrow01:17
cjohnstonsweet01:17
jcastroyou should be set soon01:17
cprofittjcastro: I think we are closer to being able to make it loco friendly, but not quite yet01:17
jcastrocjohnston: right so my idea is, beginning of the cycle I import my work items01:17
jcastrobut this gives me an idea of what I need to do since right now trello boards are only like 2 dimensional01:18
cjohnstonright01:18
jcastroI can't ask it to say "show me all the TODOs for all my boards"01:18
cjohnstonif it didnt take so much time to get trello setup it would be cooler.. to me trello's use wasnt obvious01:20
cjohnstonand setup took a bunch of time01:20
cjohnstonplus LP is already in my workflow, where that is adding a new site01:21
jcastrothat's fine01:21
jcastrobut I do have some questions01:22
greg-gjcastro: loves adding new sites to his workflow, as long as they are charmable01:22
jcastrosince you know this probably01:22
cjohnstonlol @ greg-g01:22
jcastrocjohnston: if we took the scraper part of status.01:22
jcastroand had a write API to trello we can probably do a one way sync right?01:22
cjohnstonyour meaning to pull from trello?01:23
cjohnstonprobably01:23
jcastrono, pull from launchpad01:23
jcastroand put into trello01:23
cjohnstondepends on if trello supports it01:23
cjohnstonwhere you would run into problems is assignees01:23
jcastromarcoceppi: does their API do posts yet?01:23
marcoceppijcastro: yup!01:23
cjohnstonbecause we use LP nicks01:23
marcoceppiNot completely, but core items can be posted, things like moving cards, adding cards, some basic board manipulation01:24
marcoceppiYou should be able to "bootstrap" a board though, and prefill with basic information01:25
cjohnstononce you push it from status, what are you wanting to do with it01:25
jcastroput it in trello01:28
cjohnstonthats it tho?01:28
jcastrowell, what I really want is to be able to just use my WI in Trello and have it sync back to launchpad01:29
jcastrobut that sounds hard01:29
jcastrobut I figured one way would be lower effort01:30
jcastrocjohnston: so basically01:36
jcastroan alternative solution for people who want to use proper tools but not have to do work in 2 places.01:36
mhall119jcastro: go back one more step01:36
mhall119don't import from LP to trello, because it doesn't originate in LP now, it originates in etherpad01:37
mhall119go from etherpad to trell01:37
mhall119o01:37
jcastroooooh01:37
jcastrook so let's say we are at a session01:37
jcastroI jot down my WI's01:38
jcastromarcoceppi: is it possible to create a board via the API?01:38
marcoceppijcastro: Yes01:39
jcastrook so post UDS01:39
jcastrowe hit some Magic Button01:39
jcastroand it creates a trello board for each spec01:39
jcastroso ... community-q-monoflamewar01:39
jcastroand then just shoves the workitems in the TODO column for each board01:40
akgranerholy cow - that would be freakin' AWESOME!!!01:40
marcoceppiIt's within the realm of possible, based on the way the Trello API is setup01:40
mhall119jcastro: for each spec, or each track?01:40
jcastroeach spec would be a board01:41
jcastrobut since we follow the naming convention of etherpad01:41
mhall119also keep in mind we're going to have sessions without a blueprint01:41
jcastroTHEY WILL BE IN TEAM ORDER ALREADY!!!01:41
mhall119yeah, no01:41
jcastroyeah but if they don't have WI we don't import them01:41
mhall119I mean following the name spec, we're not strict about session names anymore01:41
jcastroso we'll end up with 1 to 1 boards for each etherpad with WI on it01:41
jcastroright?01:41
mhall119right01:42
mhall119they'll need to be meeting.name + meeting.id01:42
jcastroso01:44
jcastrofor the majority of them01:44
jcastrosay ... community as an example01:44
jcastrowe'd have them in order right off the bat.01:44
marcoceppiI'm just going to set this here: Trello doesn't care about duplicate board names: https://trello.com/sello01:44
mhall119why would they be in order?01:44
jcastrowell01:44
jcastroon the boards list01:44
jcastroyou'd look at: http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro01:45
jcastroand under Boards01:45
mhall119marcoceppi: we'd need some way of separating your UDS-session boards from any others01:45
jcastroit would be "community-q-juju"01:45
jcastro"community-q-whatever", and so on01:45
jcastroactually good point, why do I even care what order they are in?01:45
mhall119and if they don't have 'community-q-' in them?01:45
mhall119because we were talking about stripping that junk out01:45
jcastrooh ok01:46
jcastrohow will you keep track of it in summit?01:46
jcastrohowever you do it01:46
mhall119we only care about meeting id01:46
mhall119meeting name is just UI01:46
jcastrowhat's the uservisible part of the meeting ID?01:46
jcastrooh01:46
jcastrothen just pass the meeting name?01:46
mhall119to trello?01:46
jcastroyeah01:46
mhall119it'd have to be meeting name and id01:46
jcastrobut like pass the ID to be in the description or something if we need it01:46
jcastrosure01:47
mhall119hmmm, I suppose we can just create a trello board with the meeting name, and store the trello-generated id/url/whatever in summit01:47
mhall119is trello open-souce?01:47
marcoceppimhall119: It's not, it's made and offered by Fog Creek software01:48
mhall119ok01:49
mhall119if we're going to make summit integrate with an external system, it would be better if there was a way to run something different01:49
mhall119for example, linaro connect uses their own etherpad servers01:49
mhall119and it would theoretically be possible to integrate with a separate instance of Launchpad01:50
jcastromhall119: I am under the assumption that Ubuntu as a project would never move to this01:50
jcastroso I am thinking integration if possible01:50
mhall119jcastro: right, but Linaro, or Plumbers, or OpenStack, might not want to use Fog Creek hosted software01:51
jcastroright01:51
mhall119so, like I said, it would have been better if they could run their own instance of trello01:51
jcastroyou can run your own trello boards01:52
mhall119I'm not opposed to using trello, mind you, just that as a selling point it's harder for closed-source01:52
jcastrobut it's a web service (SaaS) not PaaS01:52
mhall119can you make private boards?01:52
marcoceppimhall119: yes01:53
mhall119that would be good for private meetings01:53
mhall119we can't do that with LP01:53
marcoceppiPrivate boards, Organizations, and something else01:53
marcoceppiIt's basically Public, Members only (read access, but only members can change things), and Private01:53
marcoceppiWith a few other permissions sprinkled in01:54
jcastromhall119: yeah so that's why I was thinking like a sync or additive01:56
jcastronot a replacement01:56
jcastroI don't think wether it's OSS or closed matters.01:57
jcastroI couldn't convince anyone to use a team based todo system that was open01:57
jcastroso I've resigned that we'll be stuck with broken blueprints01:57
jcastrohowever that doesn't mean we can't have nice things. :)01:57
jcastromhall119: right so my idea workflow wise is02:00
jcastroif you look at this page02:00
jcastrohttp://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro#tasks02:00
jcastroyou know right off the bat02:01
jcastro"Jorge is working on that, and after that on that, and then there's the rest of the big pile"02:01
jcastrofrom right to left, just like the real board02:02
jcastroI don't have to explain to anyone what I am doing tomorrow, it's already there.02:02
jcastrothen (check this out), my weekly status report becomes an API query. "Show everything jorge moved to DONE in the last 7 days"02:03
mhall119jcastro: does trello use your launchpad username?02:12
jcastrono, it doesn't even use openid02:12
jcastrogoogle accounts right now. :(02:12
jcastrobut if you look at my boards02:12
mhall119so how are we going to match people in summit with people on trello?02:12
jcastroI just put [jorge] blah on the cards02:13
jcastrowhen I copy and pasted them over.02:13
jcastrowe haven't thought that far ahead yet02:13
marcoceppimhall119 Think of this as a 3 hour proof of concept02:14
marcoceppijcastro boards work02:14
mhall119yeah, and I like it02:14
jcastromhall119: yeah so basically I was like "you know if we show them something working...."02:14
mhall119I'm just thinking ahead about what we will need in order to integrate02:14
jcastroyeah so, here's what I did this cycle02:14
* mhall119 has his engineer hat on02:15
jcastroI copied and pasted all my work items into cards02:15
marcoceppiI've got to dash, I'll catch up in a bit02:15
jcastroand then, you can hover over each card02:15
jcastroand hit spacebar to assign it to yourself02:15
jcastroso I just clicked the top card, hit space, down arrow, space, down arrow02:15
jcastroand it took about 3 minutes02:15
mhall119we could hopefull provide a better experience than that02:16
jcastroright02:16
jcastroalso we make assumptions about the columns02:16
jcastrowe just picked todo, next, in progress, done02:16
mhall119if we're creating new boards, we can make them how we want, and just let it fail gracefully if they change them02:16
marcoceppiand on hold/postponed02:16
jcastrobut trello doesn't really enforce a naming convention or anything, it just provides you a board with lists named whatever you want02:16
jcastroright!02:16
jcastrohttps://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea02:17
jcastroso for example that board doesn't follow any of the rest02:17
jcastroit's just a set of lists.02:17
jcastrobut we wouldn't need to get that right I don't think02:17
jcastrowe could get at least the everyday tasks done02:18
mhall119yeah, I think if we says "if these specific names exist, we use them, otherwise we don't", that's enough02:19
jcastrohey so an idea02:19
jcastroin trello we can fill things in the Bio field02:19
jcastromaybe putting our lp username somewhere so we can match?02:19
mhall119that might work02:20
mhall119we'd need to figure out what to do when someone doesn't have a trello account02:21
jcastromhall119: also ,check out that bootstrap hotness02:21
jcastroyou know you like it02:21
mhall119is nice, yes02:21
mhall119jcastro: are you or marco in touch with the trello developers?02:22
marcoceppimhall119: I can be, the owner of Fog Creek Software is also co-founder of Stack Exchange02:22
mhall119so openid support would be a big plus02:23
* marcoceppi is seriously going home02:23
marcoceppibe back in a bit!02:24
mhall119especially if we can lookup a user by their openid02:24
mhall119marcoceppi: I'll believe when I see it02:24
jcastrohttps://trello.com/board/trello-development/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c02:24
jcastrook so they self host02:24
jcastroit might be in there somewhere, /me digs02:25
bkerensajcastro: apparently that issue was a GPU lockup02:32
bkerensa:P the xorg people want me to ssh'in to my laptop over ethernet and collect logs next time it occurs02:33
* mhall119 just saw a commercial for Internet Explorer on TV02:33
mhall119o_O02:33
cjohnstonwhats that02:34
mhall119some web browser or something02:34
bkerensamhall119: thats why I dont watch TV02:34
bkerensa;p02:34
cjohnstonjono: I think the docs for accomplishments are wrong... but im too tired to make changes without talking to you first04:23
cjohnston"To run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and enter the daemon sub-directory and run the daemon:"04:24
cjohnstonI think it should be:04:24
jonooh I thought czajkowski fixed this04:24
cjohnstonTo run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and run the daemon:04:24
jonofixing now04:24
jonofixed thanks04:25
cjohnstonshe may have fixed something else, but it doesnt look like that was touched04:25
jonoakgraner, you should re-load the page to see04:25
cjohnston:-)04:25
cjohnstonthanks akgraner04:25
jonocjohnston, yeah, I think she just missed the small bit off04:25
cjohnston:-)04:25
akgranerk04:25
cjohnstonI opened install.sh to make sure it wasn't doing something I didn't know about before mentioning it though.. lol04:25
akgranerbut I have the trophy's page telling my I need an ubuntu one account04:26
cjohnstong'nite all04:26
akgranernight04:27
akgranerwhich LP email do I use?  I have like 5 of them in there04:28
cjohnstoni use my ubuntu.com one for some reason04:28
akgranerhow do I add another email address04:29
akgranerhey this is kinda cool04:33
akgranerOk I got trophies - I can sleep now :-)  Hey Jono this is pretty cool!04:37
jonoakgraner, nice!04:37
akgranercatch you laters...04:37
jonoakgraner, just leave the daemon running and the other trophies will come in04:37
jonoand join the mailing list :-)04:38
akgranerok will do - thanks!04:38
jonocjohnston, did you get it running?04:38
akgranerjono - I think he is afk right now04:42
jononp04:49
dholbachgood morning08:06
czajkowskimorning08:43
popeymorning08:48
czajkowskibleugh09:08
czajkowskiheadache--09:08
jokerdinohey guys, how do i add a second level bullet points in ubuntu wiki?10:14
czajkowskijokerdino: hmm let me check10:14
czajkowskijokerdino: * just go in a space to indent it10:15
jokerdinoer, i don't understand10:15
czajkowskijokerdino: what the page let me help you10:15
jokerdinoIt's my user page10:16
jokerdinohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino10:16
czajkowskijokerdino: ok and what do you want to 2nd level bullet point?10:16
jokerdinothe three linked questions and the one blog post10:17
czajkowskihmm ok10:17
czajkowskilet me see10:17
czajkowski2 ticks10:17
czajkowskiwiki being slow10:22
jokerdinoheh10:23
czajkowskijokerdino: fresh now ?10:23
jokerdinothey are not on the 2nd level, are they?10:24
czajkowskijokerdino: not entirely sure what you mean by 2nd level, they were just  a* with no space the last time so weren't displaying as bullet points before10:25
jokerdinoi mean like sub poiints10:25
czajkowskiahh10:26
czajkowskijokerdino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing  might help then10:27
jokerdinoi tried, but i could never get to the second level10:27
czajkowskijokerdino: ok let me try again10:28
jokerdinothanks and sorry for bothering you :(10:28
czajkowskijokerdino: no you're not bothering me10:32
czajkowskijokerdino: ok refresh now10:32
czajkowskiI've started the bulleting for you10:32
czajkowskiyou were for referene mising the first * of the paragraph so you can then add the 2nd level10:33
head_victimIt's possible you need a first level list before going to a second level.10:33
czajkowskihead_victim: yup10:33
czajkowski:)10:33
head_victimJust like czajkowski did :)10:33
czajkowskineed more tea head doesnt function so well in the morning10:33
head_victimI'm considering bed.10:33
czajkowskijokerdino: if you need any more help just shout10:33
czajkowskihead_victim: had a woefully long day yesterday and bad nights sleep10:34
czajkowskiI'm gonna need all the help I can get today10:34
jokerdinoah thanks a lot people10:34
head_victimOn a side note. popey rocks.10:34
popeyuhoh10:34
czajkowskipopey: does indeed rock10:34
czajkowskijokerdino: np10:34
jokerdinowait..10:35
czajkowskijokerdino: also good idea to have testimonals :)10:35
jokerdinoi wanted to have bullet points for only the contributions :S10:35
czajkowskijokerdino: ok so go back in and remove the space from the *10:35
jokerdinoczajkowski: i need testimonials?10:35
czajkowskiyou already have some on there10:36
czajkowskiam saying well done on getting them10:36
jokerdinoah, i see. thanks10:36
czajkowski:)10:36
jokerdinoi didn't ask for the testimonials actually. i was asking for help with the wiki markup10:36
czajkowskiI know..10:37
jokerdinoi mean, not here. but in the ask ubuntu chat room as well10:37
jokerdinoi have edited the wiki page one more time, take a final look? :)10:38
jokerdinoi think this lists some of my contributions10:39
head_victimAh that makes sense and looks good.10:39
czajkowskijokerdino: looks well now10:39
czajkowskiand yes people do randomly leave testimonals for people without asking10:39
czajkowskiand it's nice to have them on the wiki page10:39
jokerdinothanks for your help again :)10:39
czajkowskijokerdino: you going for membership ?10:39
czajkowskijokerdino: no problem10:39
head_victimThey're the best testimonials to get I think.10:39
jokerdinoyeah, i am going to apply soon-ish10:40
jokerdinothe meeting is next week, so prepping up before i throw myself in10:40
czajkowskijokerdino: best of luck10:40
jokerdinothanks10:41
cjohnstonmornin11:14
czajkowskicjohnston: howdy11:14
czajkowskihttp://youtu.be/L5h02PRnsgs  good video to watch folks11:15
czajkowskicjohnston: hows the kiddies?11:15
cjohnstonlittle guy is causing mommy problems this morning :-(11:16
czajkowskioh dear11:16
czajkowskibut he's adorably cute11:16
czajkowskiso he can possibly get away with it11:16
cjohnstonyes he is11:16
cjohnstonnot this morning11:16
czajkowskiheh11:16
cjohnstonshe changed his routine this morning and he is not happy about it11:17
czajkowskicjohnston: say hello to my favouite tea lady please11:17
czajkowskioh dear11:17
jo-erlendI wish we could have a more beautiful site for the Norwegian loco. Is there any chance of getting the theme from Ubuntu.com?12:43
jo-erlendhttp://ubuntu.no looks kinda... Non-smashing.12:45
czajkowskijo-erlend: not the worst I've seen12:46
cjohnstonjo-erlend: there are community webthemes available on launchpad12:46
cjohnstonlp.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes i think12:46
jo-erlendczajkowski, no, not the worst. :)12:46
czajkowskijo-erlend: I suspect as ye host it yerselves you get more ways to change it yourselves12:47
czajkowskias most teams go ubuntu-iso.org and are hosted by canonical in some cases12:47
head_victimWe've recently moved to the Ubuntu Drupal theme, if you use a Drupal site it's actually quite awesome12:53
head_victimhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal has all the info12:53
czajkowskihead_victim: ah yes that was a fun rt to work on :)12:57
cprofittwhat does l10n stand for?13:05
cjohnstonlocalization13:06
cprofittjust a general term for it?13:07
cprofittcool... something new learned13:08
cjohnstonya.. i believe so..13:08
cjohnstonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization13:08
mhall119good morning13:34
* balloons waves13:34
cprofittjcastro: ping13:38
cprofitthave a person asking how to request sponsorship to UDS -- the page has changed and I do not see where that is located anymore13:39
cjohnstoncprofitt: its well past time to apply13:40
czajkowskiclosed a long time ago13:40
cprofittcjohnston: thanks I will let them know13:40
cjohnston:-)13:41
snap-lYeah, it closed Feb 22 iirc.14:00
jcastroballoons: no issues since I adjusted the sticky launcher thing14:45
czajkowskihmmm15:01
czajkowskion latest updates my screen doesnt seem to get brighter when power supply is plugged in15:02
czajkowskiannoying15:02
cjohnstonmine has done that for a couple years15:04
czajkowskiwas working till monday15:04
jonodpm, hey15:31
jonoall set?15:31
dpmjono, all set15:31
jonodpm, invite sent15:33
jonodholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 hangout invite sent16:00
jonoI am already on with dpm16:00
balloonslost me client;; there we go16:02
jcastroI don't see an invite?16:03
mhall119balloons: we can't hear or see you16:03
jcastrooh I got it16:04
jonojcastro, this is using my Canonical G+16:04
balloonshmm16:05
cprofitthey jono16:11
cprofitthey bodhi_zazen16:11
bodhi_zazen'lo cprofitt16:16
cprofitthow are you today bodhi_zazen ?16:17
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balloonsmorninig cprofitt and bodhi_zazen :-)16:31
bodhi_zazenwb balloons16:51
dholbachdpm, gute Arbeit17:00
dpmdholbach, danke :-)17:00
dholbachjono, back again17:07
jonodholbach, cool17:07
jonowill fire up a hangout17:07
jonohey cprofitt17:07
jonodholbach, invite sent17:08
balloonsanyone else have apps display as all white when restoring them in full screen mode?17:36
jcastroon occassion, but only browser ones17:42
jcastroI do get a white rectangle on the top left corner right under the menu bar though17:42
czajkowskiballoons: yes yesterday all day long17:43
czajkowskiballoons: but I also have some issues when my applciations redraw :/17:43
balloonsczajkowski, jcastro it fixes itself for me by unmaxing and then remaxing the window17:44
balloonssame issue for you/17:44
balloonsi'll go see if there is a bug on this then..17:44
czajkowskiballoons: nope for the white screen I've to reboot17:44
czajkowskifor redrawing I've logged the bug17:44
czajkowskiit got marked invalid yesterday thenback up to medium :.17:44
czajkowski:/17:44
balloonsohh.. do you have a #?17:45
czajkowskiyup17:46
czajkowski2 ticks17:46
czajkowskiballoons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/93865317:46
ubot2`Launchpad bug 938653 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[snb-m-gt2] applications fail to redraw" [Medium,Incomplete]17:46
balloonsi see i17:47
balloonswicked17:47
czajkowskiwicked isn't how I'd refer to it when I've lots of redrwating going on :_17:48
czajkowski:)17:48
balloonslol, not a feature for you eh? must be a bug then ;-)17:49
dholbach_alright my friends - time to call it a day17:56
dholbach_see you all tomorrow17:56
dholbach_big hugs17:56
nigelbg'nit dholbach_!17:57
dholbach_bye nigelb17:57
czajkowskiballoons: annoying when a bug gets marked invalid when you can show a screen capture of it happening18:04
jonoczajkowski, sometimes that can be because it is either not a bug, or another bug18:20
jonoinvalid has always caused controversy in LP18:20
cprofittjono: Yeah, I had to get used to that as I learned more about triage. charlie-tca and hggdh taught me a great deal about that18:24
cprofittit will be a pain point as we teach people how to report bugs... it really feels 'negative' to the bug reporter18:24
hggdhthe problem is usually when a bug is set to invalid without an explanation18:26
cprofitt+1 hggdh18:26
hggdh(of course, the coarseness of the valid status on LP is also limiting)18:26
dakerjono, hey i can't make hangout today, i don't have internet at home right now18:26
jonodaker, np18:27
jonothanks for letting me know18:27
jonodaker, I think I might need to cancel it18:27
daker18:27
jonoI totally forgot to email and remind everyone18:27
jonohttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6962235413_8fafc1513e_o.jpg18:27
nigelbjono: slacker :P18:27
dakerwahahahahaha18:27
jonoindeed18:27
jonolulz :-)18:27
nigelbHAHAHAHA18:27
nigelbthis is awesome!18:28
nigelbhalo for dholbach, how appropriat18:28
nigelb+e18:28
cprofittjono: we played with those the other night (LC)18:29
cprofittcracked me up since I did not know there were there18:29
cprofittgood thing I wasn't drinking a soda at the time18:30
jussidpm looks truly evil...18:30
czajkowskijono: oh I know but it was marked invalid pending a plan to do something should just have ben left at low has been since moved to medium18:37
czajkowskijono: oh is the hangoug cancled?18:38
jonoczajkowski, I think I might do, as I didnt get a chance to email everyone18:39
jonoso I don't want it to be empty18:39
jonoand waste your time czajkowski18:39
jonolets sync up next week18:39
jonoI will send out an email18:39
czajkowskiI'd even set my alarm, good thing you told me or I may have had to strangle you :p18:41
jonoczajkowski, :-)19:05
jcastromhall119: heya19:18
jcastrohere's the code from the prototype from last night https://github.com/marcoceppi/Strapello19:19
jcastrocjohnston: also ^19:19
bkerensadoing a presentation to a auditorium of people over Google+ Hangout is not the easiest :P19:49
bkerensajono: btw we used your global jam video for a intro at our jam :)19:49
bodhi_zazenThis bug report is getting a little off topic - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112/comments/2419:57
ubot2`Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:57
bkerensabodhi_zazen: That likely should be marked wishlist20:11
bodhi_zazenperhaps, but, the forums should be added, it is a major source of support and a good opportunity for community building, no reason not to include a patch if submitted20:13
bkerensabodhi_zazen: no doubt there.... How is progress on the update going anyways?20:14
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193616320:15
bodhi_zazenThe forums community is very interested, bodsda  will likely have a draft in the next day or two, will ask the forums community for input / feedback20:16
bodhi_zazenforums upgrade seems to have made some progress, but, not much activity in the last week or two20:17
bodhi_zazenIf you want a new theme, use this http://userstyles.org/styles/40915/ubuntu-forums-new-theme20:21
jcastroI love the facebook ubuntu comments20:31
jcastropeople have no concept of topic20:31
jcastro"join my server juju charm school!"20:32
jcastrothen it's like "Why don't you make something like active directory?"20:32
bkerensabodhi_zazen: I just had Bug #894112 marked as wishlist and I am trying to see through progress on another ubiquity bug so I will mention it to the person who handles ubiquity20:32
ubot2`Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89411220:32
bkerensajcastro: can Canonical employees enter the juju charm contest? I was discussing it with someone on the server team during our jam :P20:33
jcastroyes20:33
jcastrothe only restriction for employees is if they're paid to write charms20:33
jcastroso like, juju core, SI team, and mark and clint basically20:33
jcastrothey're expected to review incoming charms and assist entrants.20:34
bkerensajcastro: adam_g?20:34
bkerensa;p20:34
jcastrohah no20:34
bkerensaLOL20:34
jcastroif he entered it'd be no contest.20:34
bkerensa;d20:34
jcastro"I made it so you can deploy openstack in like 10 commands."20:35
jcastrowould be unfair to everyone20:35
bkerensahehehe20:35
jcastroI really want that IRC subway thing though20:35
jcastroyou gotta talk to em for me20:35
jcastroI've got shirts and mugs for all charmers who submit a working charm20:35
bkerensalol20:38
jcastrobodhi_zazen: waiting on hard drives is the last status I got this morning wrt. upgrade20:39
bkerensajcastro: You realize your talking OSU-OSL? :P they can get shirts and mugs by the crate :)20:39
jcastroI have SPECIAL EDITION juju shirts though20:41
jcastroanyone can get an ubuntu shirt.20:41
jcastroThis shirt is for Charmers.20:41
jcastroCoveted by many. Earned by few.20:41
bkerensajcastro: see when you come for oscon... I can maybe round up the OSU folks ;p20:44
jcastrowhat? that's like, in the summer20:44
jcastroI want to move to subway like ... today!20:44
bkerensajcastro: progress takes time20:44
bkerensa;p20:45
bkerensaI have been waiting for 3 release cycles for a ubiquity bug to fixed :)20:45
AlanBellwonder if that part at least works right now20:47
bkerensaAlanBell: The embedded terminal window in ubiquity? A fix was just pushed20:48
AlanBellI meant ubiquity with orca, the rest of the desktop is completely broken at the moment20:49
AlanBelldash, menus, indicators, launcher all broken20:49
bkerensaAlanBell: Oh? Hmm I better not do a update because mine is working ;p20:50
AlanBellonly broken with orca20:50
popeybodhi_zazen: I find it interesting that there was uproar that uf wasn't mentioned in the slideshow, and AU was, and now that the patch has been provided which _removes_ AU and gives favour to UF, now, you want to shutdown discussion?20:54
popeyI am dissapoint ☹20:54
jcastrosnap-l: remember our bet from last year? I just found this and lol'ed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/mac.png21:01
popeyhaha jcastro21:02
snap-ljcastro: Yeah yeah... I still owe you a case of beer21:04
* snap-l should have added iOS devices to that bet.21:05
jcastrooh ok, in that case I'll add android devices.21:08
jcastro:)21:08
jcastroyou can't win Craig.21:08
snap-lIf you can get Android devices running Windows, I'll give you three cases of beer21:10
* snap-l waits for the link21:11
jcastrohah21:12
jcastrothat's like trading in a Fender for a 2x4 and some paperclips. No thanks. :)21:13
jcastromhall119: other than the front page, do you syndicate from any other site on loco.u.c?21:20
mhall119jcastro: nope, that's it21:20
jcastromhall119: ok bug filed21:55
jcastromhall119: I would feel better if someone were to investigate my claims before proceeding.21:55
mhall119yeah I bet you would21:55
jcastrolike, I know it's important, the implementation and all that, not sure.21:55
jcastroI suspect that we'd need someone to look at *.ubuntu.com at some point wrt. that.21:56
* mhall119 nominates jcastro 21:56
jcastrono I mean a real SEO person.21:57
bodhi_zazenThank you jono : http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/07/ubuntu-forums-and-askubuntu/22:14
jonobodhi_zazen, :-)22:14
jonokeep up the great work, my friend22:14

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