| JanC | but really, hotmail sucks a lot less than gmail | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| popey | lol | 00:00 |
| jo-erlend_ | hehe, that's simply not true. :) | 00:00 |
| JanC | it *is* true nowadays (from a ML admin perspective) | 00:01 |
| jo-erlend_ | I receive so much spam from hacked hotmail accounts that I could probably make a fortune if I went into the blackmail business. | 00:01 |
| JanC | my spam filters work well ;) | 00:02 |
| JanC | it's the legitimate mail that is a problem with GMail ;) | 00:02 |
| jo-erlend_ | I don't think most people realize that their contact lists are sensitive information. Particularly if you spend your time corresponding with "hornyboy 13" and you're a 50 yearold man. | 00:02 |
| popey | bodhizazen: have you guys considered branching the ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu and proposing a branch containing the patch you request? | 00:03 |
| bodhizazen | It would be rather trivial to do that, there is a post on the forms to do that | 00:04 |
| bodhizazen | Personally I think the page should list Forums, askubuntu, irc, and LP | 00:04 |
| jo-erlend_ | I'd very much like for it to promote LoCos where applicable. | 00:05 |
| bodhizazen | I know the point is to keep it simple, but some people have expressed a strong interest in one vs another | 00:05 |
| jo-erlend_ | we're having serious issues in the Norwegian LoCo now. I don't even know where to begin. | 00:05 |
| bodhizazen | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11743611&postcount=7 | 00:06 |
| popey | I didnt think anyone had disagreed that the forums should be listed | 00:06 |
| bodhizazen | It would be easy enough to update the content | 00:07 |
| popey | yup, so do it? ☺ | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | hey popey | 00:07 |
| popey | yo cprofitt | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | how ya been? | 00:07 |
| popey | tickety boo | 00:08 |
| JanC | +1 on making this localised ☺ | 00:08 |
| cprofitt | you are up kinda late there popey | 00:12 |
| popey | yeah, watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/ | 00:14 |
| popey | classic ☺ | 00:14 |
| * cprofitt nods | 00:15 | |
| cprofitt | I am waiting to see the new version of a classic book -- John Carter of Mars | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | it releases this week | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | one of the first scifi books I read | 00:16 |
| JanC | something new about the new version? | 00:26 |
| cprofitt | JanC: yes... they just made a film of John Carter of Mars | 00:33 |
| cprofitt | I believe it is the second film | 00:33 |
| cprofitt | the other being a B movie at best | 00:33 |
| cprofitt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rf55GTEZ_E -- trailer | 00:34 |
| jcastro | hey cjohnston | 00:56 |
| cjohnston | hey | 01:01 |
| jcastro | stand by | 01:03 |
| jcastro | one sec | 01:03 |
| jcastro | I have something to show you | 01:03 |
| jcastro | mhall119: you too | 01:03 |
| cjohnston | k | 01:03 |
| jcastro | hey so you know how we use blueprints for a TODO system right | 01:05 |
| jcastro | and we make you parse it | 01:05 |
| jcastro | and that's a horrible idea | 01:05 |
| cjohnston | the new lp changes? | 01:06 |
| jcastro | no, status.ubuntu.com | 01:06 |
| jcastro | you know how you basically have to parse the TODOs | 01:06 |
| jcastro | and all this stuff | 01:06 |
| cjohnston | right. theres lp changes coming down the pipe, but yes | 01:06 |
| jcastro | what if .... | 01:07 |
| jcastro | instead of this, you had a nice API for a todo system you could use and consume. | 01:07 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: ok now. :) | 01:08 |
| cjohnston | that would be nice | 01:08 |
| jcastro | ok one sec | 01:09 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: pay no attention to the marco behind the counter | 01:09 |
| jcastro | http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro | 01:10 |
| jcastro | http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=mhall119 | 01:11 |
| jcastro | and so on | 01:11 |
| cjohnston | interesting | 01:12 |
| cjohnston | what does that pull from | 01:12 |
| jcastro | my trello boards | 01:13 |
| jcastro | which has an API | 01:13 |
| cjohnston | ahh | 01:13 |
| jcastro | so the idea is | 01:13 |
| jcastro | you make "todo" "next" "in progress" "done" | 01:13 |
| jcastro | columns | 01:13 |
| jcastro | and then this takes them all up and shows them together | 01:13 |
| jcastro | so I have like my "juju" board, my "community board", etc. | 01:13 |
| marcoceppi | Right, it pulls all the cards you're attached to in Trello | 01:15 |
| cjohnston | i dont really see that replacing what we currently have | 01:15 |
| jcastro | right, because we're ubuntu | 01:15 |
| jcastro | I get that | 01:15 |
| jcastro | but pretend I want to use the right tools for the right job for a sec. :) | 01:15 |
| cjohnston | lol | 01:15 |
| cprofitt | jcastro: I had to postpone the askubuntu.com taks I had | 01:16 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: did you see my ping from a few hours ago? | 01:16 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: which ones? | 01:16 |
| jcastro | cprofitt: ok | 01:16 |
| cjohnston | about the status of the charm | 01:17 |
| cjohnston | he is back this week right? | 01:17 |
| jcastro | he is | 01:17 |
| jcastro | he's working on it today, tomorrow | 01:17 |
| cjohnston | sweet | 01:17 |
| jcastro | you should be set soon | 01:17 |
| cprofitt | jcastro: I think we are closer to being able to make it loco friendly, but not quite yet | 01:17 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: right so my idea is, beginning of the cycle I import my work items | 01:17 |
| jcastro | but this gives me an idea of what I need to do since right now trello boards are only like 2 dimensional | 01:18 |
| cjohnston | right | 01:18 |
| jcastro | I can't ask it to say "show me all the TODOs for all my boards" | 01:18 |
| cjohnston | if it didnt take so much time to get trello setup it would be cooler.. to me trello's use wasnt obvious | 01:20 |
| cjohnston | and setup took a bunch of time | 01:20 |
| cjohnston | plus LP is already in my workflow, where that is adding a new site | 01:21 |
| jcastro | that's fine | 01:21 |
| jcastro | but I do have some questions | 01:22 |
| greg-g | jcastro: loves adding new sites to his workflow, as long as they are charmable | 01:22 |
| jcastro | since you know this probably | 01:22 |
| cjohnston | lol @ greg-g | 01:22 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: if we took the scraper part of status. | 01:22 |
| jcastro | and had a write API to trello we can probably do a one way sync right? | 01:22 |
| cjohnston | your meaning to pull from trello? | 01:23 |
| cjohnston | probably | 01:23 |
| jcastro | no, pull from launchpad | 01:23 |
| jcastro | and put into trello | 01:23 |
| cjohnston | depends on if trello supports it | 01:23 |
| cjohnston | where you would run into problems is assignees | 01:23 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: does their API do posts yet? | 01:23 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: yup! | 01:23 |
| cjohnston | because we use LP nicks | 01:23 |
| marcoceppi | Not completely, but core items can be posted, things like moving cards, adding cards, some basic board manipulation | 01:24 |
| marcoceppi | You should be able to "bootstrap" a board though, and prefill with basic information | 01:25 |
| cjohnston | once you push it from status, what are you wanting to do with it | 01:25 |
| jcastro | put it in trello | 01:28 |
| cjohnston | thats it tho? | 01:28 |
| jcastro | well, what I really want is to be able to just use my WI in Trello and have it sync back to launchpad | 01:29 |
| jcastro | but that sounds hard | 01:29 |
| jcastro | but I figured one way would be lower effort | 01:30 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: so basically | 01:36 |
| jcastro | an alternative solution for people who want to use proper tools but not have to do work in 2 places. | 01:36 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: go back one more step | 01:36 |
| mhall119 | don't import from LP to trello, because it doesn't originate in LP now, it originates in etherpad | 01:37 |
| mhall119 | go from etherpad to trell | 01:37 |
| mhall119 | o | 01:37 |
| jcastro | ooooh | 01:37 |
| jcastro | ok so let's say we are at a session | 01:37 |
| jcastro | I jot down my WI's | 01:38 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: is it possible to create a board via the API? | 01:38 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: Yes | 01:39 |
| jcastro | ok so post UDS | 01:39 |
| jcastro | we hit some Magic Button | 01:39 |
| jcastro | and it creates a trello board for each spec | 01:39 |
| jcastro | so ... community-q-monoflamewar | 01:39 |
| jcastro | and then just shoves the workitems in the TODO column for each board | 01:40 |
| akgraner | holy cow - that would be freakin' AWESOME!!! | 01:40 |
| marcoceppi | It's within the realm of possible, based on the way the Trello API is setup | 01:40 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: for each spec, or each track? | 01:40 |
| jcastro | each spec would be a board | 01:41 |
| jcastro | but since we follow the naming convention of etherpad | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | also keep in mind we're going to have sessions without a blueprint | 01:41 |
| jcastro | THEY WILL BE IN TEAM ORDER ALREADY!!! | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | yeah, no | 01:41 |
| jcastro | yeah but if they don't have WI we don't import them | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | I mean following the name spec, we're not strict about session names anymore | 01:41 |
| jcastro | so we'll end up with 1 to 1 boards for each etherpad with WI on it | 01:41 |
| jcastro | right? | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | right | 01:42 |
| mhall119 | they'll need to be meeting.name + meeting.id | 01:42 |
| jcastro | so | 01:44 |
| jcastro | for the majority of them | 01:44 |
| jcastro | say ... community as an example | 01:44 |
| jcastro | we'd have them in order right off the bat. | 01:44 |
| marcoceppi | I'm just going to set this here: Trello doesn't care about duplicate board names: https://trello.com/sello | 01:44 |
| mhall119 | why would they be in order? | 01:44 |
| jcastro | well | 01:44 |
| jcastro | on the boards list | 01:44 |
| jcastro | you'd look at: http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro | 01:45 |
| jcastro | and under Boards | 01:45 |
| mhall119 | marcoceppi: we'd need some way of separating your UDS-session boards from any others | 01:45 |
| jcastro | it would be "community-q-juju" | 01:45 |
| jcastro | "community-q-whatever", and so on | 01:45 |
| jcastro | actually good point, why do I even care what order they are in? | 01:45 |
| mhall119 | and if they don't have 'community-q-' in them? | 01:45 |
| mhall119 | because we were talking about stripping that junk out | 01:45 |
| jcastro | oh ok | 01:46 |
| jcastro | how will you keep track of it in summit? | 01:46 |
| jcastro | however you do it | 01:46 |
| mhall119 | we only care about meeting id | 01:46 |
| mhall119 | meeting name is just UI | 01:46 |
| jcastro | what's the uservisible part of the meeting ID? | 01:46 |
| jcastro | oh | 01:46 |
| jcastro | then just pass the meeting name? | 01:46 |
| mhall119 | to trello? | 01:46 |
| jcastro | yeah | 01:46 |
| mhall119 | it'd have to be meeting name and id | 01:46 |
| jcastro | but like pass the ID to be in the description or something if we need it | 01:46 |
| jcastro | sure | 01:47 |
| mhall119 | hmmm, I suppose we can just create a trello board with the meeting name, and store the trello-generated id/url/whatever in summit | 01:47 |
| mhall119 | is trello open-souce? | 01:47 |
| marcoceppi | mhall119: It's not, it's made and offered by Fog Creek software | 01:48 |
| mhall119 | ok | 01:49 |
| mhall119 | if we're going to make summit integrate with an external system, it would be better if there was a way to run something different | 01:49 |
| mhall119 | for example, linaro connect uses their own etherpad servers | 01:49 |
| mhall119 | and it would theoretically be possible to integrate with a separate instance of Launchpad | 01:50 |
| jcastro | mhall119: I am under the assumption that Ubuntu as a project would never move to this | 01:50 |
| jcastro | so I am thinking integration if possible | 01:50 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: right, but Linaro, or Plumbers, or OpenStack, might not want to use Fog Creek hosted software | 01:51 |
| jcastro | right | 01:51 |
| mhall119 | so, like I said, it would have been better if they could run their own instance of trello | 01:51 |
| jcastro | you can run your own trello boards | 01:52 |
| mhall119 | I'm not opposed to using trello, mind you, just that as a selling point it's harder for closed-source | 01:52 |
| jcastro | but it's a web service (SaaS) not PaaS | 01:52 |
| mhall119 | can you make private boards? | 01:52 |
| marcoceppi | mhall119: yes | 01:53 |
| mhall119 | that would be good for private meetings | 01:53 |
| mhall119 | we can't do that with LP | 01:53 |
| marcoceppi | Private boards, Organizations, and something else | 01:53 |
| marcoceppi | It's basically Public, Members only (read access, but only members can change things), and Private | 01:53 |
| marcoceppi | With a few other permissions sprinkled in | 01:54 |
| jcastro | mhall119: yeah so that's why I was thinking like a sync or additive | 01:56 |
| jcastro | not a replacement | 01:56 |
| jcastro | I don't think wether it's OSS or closed matters. | 01:57 |
| jcastro | I couldn't convince anyone to use a team based todo system that was open | 01:57 |
| jcastro | so I've resigned that we'll be stuck with broken blueprints | 01:57 |
| jcastro | however that doesn't mean we can't have nice things. :) | 01:57 |
| jcastro | mhall119: right so my idea workflow wise is | 02:00 |
| jcastro | if you look at this page | 02:00 |
| jcastro | http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro#tasks | 02:00 |
| jcastro | you know right off the bat | 02:01 |
| jcastro | "Jorge is working on that, and after that on that, and then there's the rest of the big pile" | 02:01 |
| jcastro | from right to left, just like the real board | 02:02 |
| jcastro | I don't have to explain to anyone what I am doing tomorrow, it's already there. | 02:02 |
| jcastro | then (check this out), my weekly status report becomes an API query. "Show everything jorge moved to DONE in the last 7 days" | 02:03 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: does trello use your launchpad username? | 02:12 |
| jcastro | no, it doesn't even use openid | 02:12 |
| jcastro | google accounts right now. :( | 02:12 |
| jcastro | but if you look at my boards | 02:12 |
| mhall119 | so how are we going to match people in summit with people on trello? | 02:12 |
| jcastro | I just put [jorge] blah on the cards | 02:13 |
| jcastro | when I copy and pasted them over. | 02:13 |
| jcastro | we haven't thought that far ahead yet | 02:13 |
| marcoceppi | mhall119 Think of this as a 3 hour proof of concept | 02:14 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro boards work | 02:14 |
| mhall119 | yeah, and I like it | 02:14 |
| jcastro | mhall119: yeah so basically I was like "you know if we show them something working...." | 02:14 |
| mhall119 | I'm just thinking ahead about what we will need in order to integrate | 02:14 |
| jcastro | yeah so, here's what I did this cycle | 02:14 |
| * mhall119 has his engineer hat on | 02:15 | |
| jcastro | I copied and pasted all my work items into cards | 02:15 |
| marcoceppi | I've got to dash, I'll catch up in a bit | 02:15 |
| jcastro | and then, you can hover over each card | 02:15 |
| jcastro | and hit spacebar to assign it to yourself | 02:15 |
| jcastro | so I just clicked the top card, hit space, down arrow, space, down arrow | 02:15 |
| jcastro | and it took about 3 minutes | 02:15 |
| mhall119 | we could hopefull provide a better experience than that | 02:16 |
| jcastro | right | 02:16 |
| jcastro | also we make assumptions about the columns | 02:16 |
| jcastro | we just picked todo, next, in progress, done | 02:16 |
| mhall119 | if we're creating new boards, we can make them how we want, and just let it fail gracefully if they change them | 02:16 |
| marcoceppi | and on hold/postponed | 02:16 |
| jcastro | but trello doesn't really enforce a naming convention or anything, it just provides you a board with lists named whatever you want | 02:16 |
| jcastro | right! | 02:16 |
| jcastro | https://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea | 02:17 |
| jcastro | so for example that board doesn't follow any of the rest | 02:17 |
| jcastro | it's just a set of lists. | 02:17 |
| jcastro | but we wouldn't need to get that right I don't think | 02:17 |
| jcastro | we could get at least the everyday tasks done | 02:18 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I think if we says "if these specific names exist, we use them, otherwise we don't", that's enough | 02:19 |
| jcastro | hey so an idea | 02:19 |
| jcastro | in trello we can fill things in the Bio field | 02:19 |
| jcastro | maybe putting our lp username somewhere so we can match? | 02:19 |
| mhall119 | that might work | 02:20 |
| mhall119 | we'd need to figure out what to do when someone doesn't have a trello account | 02:21 |
| jcastro | mhall119: also ,check out that bootstrap hotness | 02:21 |
| jcastro | you know you like it | 02:21 |
| mhall119 | is nice, yes | 02:21 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: are you or marco in touch with the trello developers? | 02:22 |
| marcoceppi | mhall119: I can be, the owner of Fog Creek Software is also co-founder of Stack Exchange | 02:22 |
| mhall119 | so openid support would be a big plus | 02:23 |
| * marcoceppi is seriously going home | 02:23 | |
| marcoceppi | be back in a bit! | 02:24 |
| mhall119 | especially if we can lookup a user by their openid | 02:24 |
| mhall119 | marcoceppi: I'll believe when I see it | 02:24 |
| jcastro | https://trello.com/board/trello-development/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c | 02:24 |
| jcastro | ok so they self host | 02:24 |
| jcastro | it might be in there somewhere, /me digs | 02:25 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: apparently that issue was a GPU lockup | 02:32 |
| bkerensa | :P the xorg people want me to ssh'in to my laptop over ethernet and collect logs next time it occurs | 02:33 |
| * mhall119 just saw a commercial for Internet Explorer on TV | 02:33 | |
| mhall119 | o_O | 02:33 |
| cjohnston | whats that | 02:34 |
| mhall119 | some web browser or something | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: thats why I dont watch TV | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 02:34 |
| cjohnston | jono: I think the docs for accomplishments are wrong... but im too tired to make changes without talking to you first | 04:23 |
| cjohnston | "To run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and enter the daemon sub-directory and run the daemon:" | 04:24 |
| cjohnston | I think it should be: | 04:24 |
| jono | oh I thought czajkowski fixed this | 04:24 |
| cjohnston | To run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and run the daemon: | 04:24 |
| jono | fixing now | 04:24 |
| jono | fixed thanks | 04:25 |
| cjohnston | she may have fixed something else, but it doesnt look like that was touched | 04:25 |
| jono | akgraner, you should re-load the page to see | 04:25 |
| cjohnston | :-) | 04:25 |
| cjohnston | thanks akgraner | 04:25 |
| jono | cjohnston, yeah, I think she just missed the small bit off | 04:25 |
| cjohnston | :-) | 04:25 |
| akgraner | k | 04:25 |
| cjohnston | I opened install.sh to make sure it wasn't doing something I didn't know about before mentioning it though.. lol | 04:25 |
| akgraner | but I have the trophy's page telling my I need an ubuntu one account | 04:26 |
| cjohnston | g'nite all | 04:26 |
| akgraner | night | 04:27 |
| akgraner | which LP email do I use? I have like 5 of them in there | 04:28 |
| cjohnston | i use my ubuntu.com one for some reason | 04:28 |
| akgraner | how do I add another email address | 04:29 |
| akgraner | hey this is kinda cool | 04:33 |
| akgraner | Ok I got trophies - I can sleep now :-) Hey Jono this is pretty cool! | 04:37 |
| jono | akgraner, nice! | 04:37 |
| akgraner | catch you laters... | 04:37 |
| jono | akgraner, just leave the daemon running and the other trophies will come in | 04:37 |
| jono | and join the mailing list :-) | 04:38 |
| akgraner | ok will do - thanks! | 04:38 |
| jono | cjohnston, did you get it running? | 04:38 |
| akgraner | jono - I think he is afk right now | 04:42 |
| jono | np | 04:49 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:06 |
| czajkowski | morning | 08:43 |
| popey | morning | 08:48 |
| czajkowski | bleugh | 09:08 |
| czajkowski | headache-- | 09:08 |
| jokerdino | hey guys, how do i add a second level bullet points in ubuntu wiki? | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: hmm let me check | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: * just go in a space to indent it | 10:15 |
| jokerdino | er, i don't understand | 10:15 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: what the page let me help you | 10:15 |
| jokerdino | It's my user page | 10:16 |
| jokerdino | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: ok and what do you want to 2nd level bullet point? | 10:16 |
| jokerdino | the three linked questions and the one blog post | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | hmm ok | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | let me see | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | 2 ticks | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | wiki being slow | 10:22 |
| jokerdino | heh | 10:23 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: fresh now ? | 10:23 |
| jokerdino | they are not on the 2nd level, are they? | 10:24 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: not entirely sure what you mean by 2nd level, they were just a* with no space the last time so weren't displaying as bullet points before | 10:25 |
| jokerdino | i mean like sub poiints | 10:25 |
| czajkowski | ahh | 10:26 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing might help then | 10:27 |
| jokerdino | i tried, but i could never get to the second level | 10:27 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: ok let me try again | 10:28 |
| jokerdino | thanks and sorry for bothering you :( | 10:28 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: no you're not bothering me | 10:32 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: ok refresh now | 10:32 |
| czajkowski | I've started the bulleting for you | 10:32 |
| czajkowski | you were for referene mising the first * of the paragraph so you can then add the 2nd level | 10:33 |
| head_victim | It's possible you need a first level list before going to a second level. | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | head_victim: yup | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | :) | 10:33 |
| head_victim | Just like czajkowski did :) | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | need more tea head doesnt function so well in the morning | 10:33 |
| head_victim | I'm considering bed. | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: if you need any more help just shout | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | head_victim: had a woefully long day yesterday and bad nights sleep | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | I'm gonna need all the help I can get today | 10:34 |
| jokerdino | ah thanks a lot people | 10:34 |
| head_victim | On a side note. popey rocks. | 10:34 |
| popey | uhoh | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | popey: does indeed rock | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: np | 10:34 |
| jokerdino | wait.. | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: also good idea to have testimonals :) | 10:35 |
| jokerdino | i wanted to have bullet points for only the contributions :S | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: ok so go back in and remove the space from the * | 10:35 |
| jokerdino | czajkowski: i need testimonials? | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | you already have some on there | 10:36 |
| czajkowski | am saying well done on getting them | 10:36 |
| jokerdino | ah, i see. thanks | 10:36 |
| czajkowski | :) | 10:36 |
| jokerdino | i didn't ask for the testimonials actually. i was asking for help with the wiki markup | 10:36 |
| czajkowski | I know.. | 10:37 |
| jokerdino | i mean, not here. but in the ask ubuntu chat room as well | 10:37 |
| jokerdino | i have edited the wiki page one more time, take a final look? :) | 10:38 |
| jokerdino | i think this lists some of my contributions | 10:39 |
| head_victim | Ah that makes sense and looks good. | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: looks well now | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | and yes people do randomly leave testimonals for people without asking | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | and it's nice to have them on the wiki page | 10:39 |
| jokerdino | thanks for your help again :) | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: you going for membership ? | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: no problem | 10:39 |
| head_victim | They're the best testimonials to get I think. | 10:39 |
| jokerdino | yeah, i am going to apply soon-ish | 10:40 |
| jokerdino | the meeting is next week, so prepping up before i throw myself in | 10:40 |
| czajkowski | jokerdino: best of luck | 10:40 |
| jokerdino | thanks | 10:41 |
| cjohnston | mornin | 11:14 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: howdy | 11:14 |
| czajkowski | http://youtu.be/L5h02PRnsgs good video to watch folks | 11:15 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: hows the kiddies? | 11:15 |
| cjohnston | little guy is causing mommy problems this morning :-( | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | oh dear | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | but he's adorably cute | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | so he can possibly get away with it | 11:16 |
| cjohnston | yes he is | 11:16 |
| cjohnston | not this morning | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | heh | 11:16 |
| cjohnston | she changed his routine this morning and he is not happy about it | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: say hello to my favouite tea lady please | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | oh dear | 11:17 |
| jo-erlend | I wish we could have a more beautiful site for the Norwegian loco. Is there any chance of getting the theme from Ubuntu.com? | 12:43 |
| jo-erlend | http://ubuntu.no looks kinda... Non-smashing. | 12:45 |
| czajkowski | jo-erlend: not the worst I've seen | 12:46 |
| cjohnston | jo-erlend: there are community webthemes available on launchpad | 12:46 |
| cjohnston | lp.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes i think | 12:46 |
| jo-erlend | czajkowski, no, not the worst. :) | 12:46 |
| czajkowski | jo-erlend: I suspect as ye host it yerselves you get more ways to change it yourselves | 12:47 |
| czajkowski | as most teams go ubuntu-iso.org and are hosted by canonical in some cases | 12:47 |
| head_victim | We've recently moved to the Ubuntu Drupal theme, if you use a Drupal site it's actually quite awesome | 12:53 |
| head_victim | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal has all the info | 12:53 |
| czajkowski | head_victim: ah yes that was a fun rt to work on :) | 12:57 |
| cprofitt | what does l10n stand for? | 13:05 |
| cjohnston | localization | 13:06 |
| cprofitt | just a general term for it? | 13:07 |
| cprofitt | cool... something new learned | 13:08 |
| cjohnston | ya.. i believe so.. | 13:08 |
| cjohnston | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization | 13:08 |
| mhall119 | good morning | 13:34 |
| * balloons waves | 13:34 | |
| cprofitt | jcastro: ping | 13:38 |
| cprofitt | have a person asking how to request sponsorship to UDS -- the page has changed and I do not see where that is located anymore | 13:39 |
| cjohnston | cprofitt: its well past time to apply | 13:40 |
| czajkowski | closed a long time ago | 13:40 |
| cprofitt | cjohnston: thanks I will let them know | 13:40 |
| cjohnston | :-) | 13:41 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it closed Feb 22 iirc. | 14:00 |
| jcastro | balloons: no issues since I adjusted the sticky launcher thing | 14:45 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 15:01 |
| czajkowski | on latest updates my screen doesnt seem to get brighter when power supply is plugged in | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | annoying | 15:02 |
| cjohnston | mine has done that for a couple years | 15:04 |
| czajkowski | was working till monday | 15:04 |
| jono | dpm, hey | 15:31 |
| jono | all set? | 15:31 |
| dpm | jono, all set | 15:31 |
| jono | dpm, invite sent | 15:33 |
| jono | dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 hangout invite sent | 16:00 |
| jono | I am already on with dpm | 16:00 |
| balloons | lost me client;; there we go | 16:02 |
| jcastro | I don't see an invite? | 16:03 |
| mhall119 | balloons: we can't hear or see you | 16:03 |
| jcastro | oh I got it | 16:04 |
| jono | jcastro, this is using my Canonical G+ | 16:04 |
| balloons | hmm | 16:05 |
| cprofitt | hey jono | 16:11 |
| cprofitt | hey bodhi_zazen | 16:11 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo cprofitt | 16:16 |
| cprofitt | how are you today bodhi_zazen ? | 16:17 |
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| balloons | morninig cprofitt and bodhi_zazen :-) | 16:31 |
| bodhi_zazen | wb balloons | 16:51 |
| dholbach | dpm, gute Arbeit | 17:00 |
| dpm | dholbach, danke :-) | 17:00 |
| dholbach | jono, back again | 17:07 |
| jono | dholbach, cool | 17:07 |
| jono | will fire up a hangout | 17:07 |
| jono | hey cprofitt | 17:07 |
| jono | dholbach, invite sent | 17:08 |
| balloons | anyone else have apps display as all white when restoring them in full screen mode? | 17:36 |
| jcastro | on occassion, but only browser ones | 17:42 |
| jcastro | I do get a white rectangle on the top left corner right under the menu bar though | 17:42 |
| czajkowski | balloons: yes yesterday all day long | 17:43 |
| czajkowski | balloons: but I also have some issues when my applciations redraw :/ | 17:43 |
| balloons | czajkowski, jcastro it fixes itself for me by unmaxing and then remaxing the window | 17:44 |
| balloons | same issue for you/ | 17:44 |
| balloons | i'll go see if there is a bug on this then.. | 17:44 |
| czajkowski | balloons: nope for the white screen I've to reboot | 17:44 |
| czajkowski | for redrawing I've logged the bug | 17:44 |
| czajkowski | it got marked invalid yesterday thenback up to medium :. | 17:44 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 17:44 |
| balloons | ohh.. do you have a #? | 17:45 |
| czajkowski | yup | 17:46 |
| czajkowski | 2 ticks | 17:46 |
| czajkowski | balloons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/938653 | 17:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 938653 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[snb-m-gt2] applications fail to redraw" [Medium,Incomplete] | 17:46 |
| balloons | i see i | 17:47 |
| balloons | wicked | 17:47 |
| czajkowski | wicked isn't how I'd refer to it when I've lots of redrwating going on :_ | 17:48 |
| czajkowski | :) | 17:48 |
| balloons | lol, not a feature for you eh? must be a bug then ;-) | 17:49 |
| dholbach_ | alright my friends - time to call it a day | 17:56 |
| dholbach_ | see you all tomorrow | 17:56 |
| dholbach_ | big hugs | 17:56 |
| nigelb | g'nit dholbach_! | 17:57 |
| dholbach_ | bye nigelb | 17:57 |
| czajkowski | balloons: annoying when a bug gets marked invalid when you can show a screen capture of it happening | 18:04 |
| jono | czajkowski, sometimes that can be because it is either not a bug, or another bug | 18:20 |
| jono | invalid has always caused controversy in LP | 18:20 |
| cprofitt | jono: Yeah, I had to get used to that as I learned more about triage. charlie-tca and hggdh taught me a great deal about that | 18:24 |
| cprofitt | it will be a pain point as we teach people how to report bugs... it really feels 'negative' to the bug reporter | 18:24 |
| hggdh | the problem is usually when a bug is set to invalid without an explanation | 18:26 |
| cprofitt | +1 hggdh | 18:26 |
| hggdh | (of course, the coarseness of the valid status on LP is also limiting) | 18:26 |
| daker | jono, hey i can't make hangout today, i don't have internet at home right now | 18:26 |
| jono | daker, np | 18:27 |
| jono | thanks for letting me know | 18:27 |
| jono | daker, I think I might need to cancel it | 18:27 |
| daker | ツ | 18:27 |
| jono | I totally forgot to email and remind everyone | 18:27 |
| jono | http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6962235413_8fafc1513e_o.jpg | 18:27 |
| nigelb | jono: slacker :P | 18:27 |
| daker | wahahahahaha | 18:27 |
| jono | indeed | 18:27 |
| jono | lulz :-) | 18:27 |
| nigelb | HAHAHAHA | 18:27 |
| nigelb | this is awesome! | 18:28 |
| nigelb | halo for dholbach, how appropriat | 18:28 |
| nigelb | +e | 18:28 |
| cprofitt | jono: we played with those the other night (LC) | 18:29 |
| cprofitt | cracked me up since I did not know there were there | 18:29 |
| cprofitt | good thing I wasn't drinking a soda at the time | 18:30 |
| jussi | dpm looks truly evil... | 18:30 |
| czajkowski | jono: oh I know but it was marked invalid pending a plan to do something should just have ben left at low has been since moved to medium | 18:37 |
| czajkowski | jono: oh is the hangoug cancled? | 18:38 |
| jono | czajkowski, I think I might do, as I didnt get a chance to email everyone | 18:39 |
| jono | so I don't want it to be empty | 18:39 |
| jono | and waste your time czajkowski | 18:39 |
| jono | lets sync up next week | 18:39 |
| jono | I will send out an email | 18:39 |
| czajkowski | I'd even set my alarm, good thing you told me or I may have had to strangle you :p | 18:41 |
| jono | czajkowski, :-) | 19:05 |
| jcastro | mhall119: heya | 19:18 |
| jcastro | here's the code from the prototype from last night https://github.com/marcoceppi/Strapello | 19:19 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: also ^ | 19:19 |
| bkerensa | doing a presentation to a auditorium of people over Google+ Hangout is not the easiest :P | 19:49 |
| bkerensa | jono: btw we used your global jam video for a intro at our jam :) | 19:49 |
| bodhi_zazen | This bug report is getting a little off topic - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112/comments/24 | 19:57 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:57 |
| bkerensa | bodhi_zazen: That likely should be marked wishlist | 20:11 |
| bodhi_zazen | perhaps, but, the forums should be added, it is a major source of support and a good opportunity for community building, no reason not to include a patch if submitted | 20:13 |
| bkerensa | bodhi_zazen: no doubt there.... How is progress on the update going anyways? | 20:14 |
| bodhi_zazen | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936163 | 20:15 |
| bodhi_zazen | The forums community is very interested, bodsda will likely have a draft in the next day or two, will ask the forums community for input / feedback | 20:16 |
| bodhi_zazen | forums upgrade seems to have made some progress, but, not much activity in the last week or two | 20:17 |
| bodhi_zazen | If you want a new theme, use this http://userstyles.org/styles/40915/ubuntu-forums-new-theme | 20:21 |
| jcastro | I love the facebook ubuntu comments | 20:31 |
| jcastro | people have no concept of topic | 20:31 |
| jcastro | "join my server juju charm school!" | 20:32 |
| jcastro | then it's like "Why don't you make something like active directory?" | 20:32 |
| bkerensa | bodhi_zazen: I just had Bug #894112 marked as wishlist and I am trying to see through progress on another ubiquity bug so I will mention it to the person who handles ubiquity | 20:32 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894112 | 20:32 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: can Canonical employees enter the juju charm contest? I was discussing it with someone on the server team during our jam :P | 20:33 |
| jcastro | yes | 20:33 |
| jcastro | the only restriction for employees is if they're paid to write charms | 20:33 |
| jcastro | so like, juju core, SI team, and mark and clint basically | 20:33 |
| jcastro | they're expected to review incoming charms and assist entrants. | 20:34 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: adam_g? | 20:34 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 20:34 |
| jcastro | hah no | 20:34 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 20:34 |
| jcastro | if he entered it'd be no contest. | 20:34 |
| bkerensa | ;d | 20:34 |
| jcastro | "I made it so you can deploy openstack in like 10 commands." | 20:35 |
| jcastro | would be unfair to everyone | 20:35 |
| bkerensa | hehehe | 20:35 |
| jcastro | I really want that IRC subway thing though | 20:35 |
| jcastro | you gotta talk to em for me | 20:35 |
| jcastro | I've got shirts and mugs for all charmers who submit a working charm | 20:35 |
| bkerensa | lol | 20:38 |
| jcastro | bodhi_zazen: waiting on hard drives is the last status I got this morning wrt. upgrade | 20:39 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: You realize your talking OSU-OSL? :P they can get shirts and mugs by the crate :) | 20:39 |
| jcastro | I have SPECIAL EDITION juju shirts though | 20:41 |
| jcastro | anyone can get an ubuntu shirt. | 20:41 |
| jcastro | This shirt is for Charmers. | 20:41 |
| jcastro | Coveted by many. Earned by few. | 20:41 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: see when you come for oscon... I can maybe round up the OSU folks ;p | 20:44 |
| jcastro | what? that's like, in the summer | 20:44 |
| jcastro | I want to move to subway like ... today! | 20:44 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: progress takes time | 20:44 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 20:45 |
| bkerensa | I have been waiting for 3 release cycles for a ubiquity bug to fixed :) | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | wonder if that part at least works right now | 20:47 |
| bkerensa | AlanBell: The embedded terminal window in ubiquity? A fix was just pushed | 20:48 |
| AlanBell | I meant ubiquity with orca, the rest of the desktop is completely broken at the moment | 20:49 |
| AlanBell | dash, menus, indicators, launcher all broken | 20:49 |
| bkerensa | AlanBell: Oh? Hmm I better not do a update because mine is working ;p | 20:50 |
| AlanBell | only broken with orca | 20:50 |
| popey | bodhi_zazen: I find it interesting that there was uproar that uf wasn't mentioned in the slideshow, and AU was, and now that the patch has been provided which _removes_ AU and gives favour to UF, now, you want to shutdown discussion? | 20:54 |
| popey | I am dissapoint ☹ | 20:54 |
| jcastro | snap-l: remember our bet from last year? I just found this and lol'ed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/mac.png | 21:01 |
| popey | haha jcastro | 21:02 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Yeah yeah... I still owe you a case of beer | 21:04 |
| * snap-l should have added iOS devices to that bet. | 21:05 | |
| jcastro | oh ok, in that case I'll add android devices. | 21:08 |
| jcastro | :) | 21:08 |
| jcastro | you can't win Craig. | 21:08 |
| snap-l | If you can get Android devices running Windows, I'll give you three cases of beer | 21:10 |
| * snap-l waits for the link | 21:11 | |
| jcastro | hah | 21:12 |
| jcastro | that's like trading in a Fender for a 2x4 and some paperclips. No thanks. :) | 21:13 |
| jcastro | mhall119: other than the front page, do you syndicate from any other site on loco.u.c? | 21:20 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: nope, that's it | 21:20 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok bug filed | 21:55 |
| jcastro | mhall119: I would feel better if someone were to investigate my claims before proceeding. | 21:55 |
| mhall119 | yeah I bet you would | 21:55 |
| jcastro | like, I know it's important, the implementation and all that, not sure. | 21:55 |
| jcastro | I suspect that we'd need someone to look at *.ubuntu.com at some point wrt. that. | 21:56 |
| * mhall119 nominates jcastro | 21:56 | |
| jcastro | no I mean a real SEO person. | 21:57 |
| bodhi_zazen | Thank you jono : http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/07/ubuntu-forums-and-askubuntu/ | 22:14 |
| jono | bodhi_zazen, :-) | 22:14 |
| jono | keep up the great work, my friend | 22:14 |
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