[00:00] <JanC> but really, hotmail sucks a lot less than gmail
[00:00] <popey> lol
[00:00] <jo-erlend_> hehe, that's simply not true. :)
[00:01] <JanC> it *is* true nowadays (from a ML admin perspective)
[00:01] <jo-erlend_> I receive so much spam from hacked hotmail accounts that I could probably make a fortune if I went into the blackmail business.
[00:02] <JanC> my spam filters work well  ;)
[00:02] <JanC> it's the legitimate mail that is a problem with GMail  ;)
[00:02] <jo-erlend_> I don't think most people realize that their contact lists are sensitive information. Particularly if you spend your time corresponding with "hornyboy 13" and you're a 50 yearold man.
[00:03] <popey> bodhizazen: have you guys considered branching the ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu and proposing a branch containing the patch you request?
[00:04] <bodhizazen> It would be rather trivial to do that, there is a post on the forms to do that
[00:04] <bodhizazen> Personally I think the page should list Forums, askubuntu, irc, and LP
[00:05] <jo-erlend_> I'd very much like for it to promote LoCos where applicable.
[00:05] <bodhizazen> I know the point is to keep it simple, but some people have expressed a strong interest in one vs another
[00:05] <jo-erlend_> we're having serious issues in the Norwegian LoCo now. I don't even know where to begin.
[00:06] <bodhizazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11743611&postcount=7
[00:06] <popey> I didnt think anyone had disagreed that the forums should be listed
[00:07] <bodhizazen> It would be easy enough to update the content
[00:07] <popey> yup, so do it? ☺
[00:07] <cprofitt> hey popey
[00:07] <popey> yo cprofitt
[00:07] <cprofitt> how ya been?
[00:08] <popey> tickety boo
[00:08] <JanC> +1 on making this localised  ☺
[00:12] <cprofitt> you are up kinda late there popey
[00:14] <popey> yeah, watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
[00:14] <popey> classic ☺
[00:15]  * cprofitt nods
[00:15] <cprofitt> I am waiting to see the new version of a classic book -- John Carter of Mars
[00:15] <cprofitt> it releases this week
[00:16] <cprofitt> one of the first scifi books I read
[00:26] <JanC> something new about the new version?
[00:33] <cprofitt> JanC: yes... they just made a film of John Carter of Mars
[00:33] <cprofitt> I believe it is the second film
[00:33] <cprofitt> the other being a B movie at best
[00:34] <cprofitt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rf55GTEZ_E -- trailer
[00:56] <jcastro> hey cjohnston
[01:01] <cjohnston> hey
[01:03] <jcastro> stand by
[01:03] <jcastro> one sec
[01:03] <jcastro> I have something to show you
[01:03] <jcastro> mhall119: you too
[01:03] <cjohnston> k
[01:05] <jcastro> hey so you know how we use blueprints for a TODO system right
[01:05] <jcastro> and we make you parse it
[01:05] <jcastro> and that's a horrible idea
[01:06] <cjohnston> the new lp changes?
[01:06] <jcastro> no, status.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <jcastro> you know how you basically have to parse the TODOs
[01:06] <jcastro> and all this stuff
[01:06] <cjohnston> right. theres lp changes coming down the pipe, but yes
[01:07] <jcastro> what if ....
[01:07] <jcastro> instead of this, you had a nice API for a todo system you could use and consume.
[01:08] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ok now. :)
[01:08] <cjohnston> that would be nice
[01:09] <jcastro> ok one sec
[01:09] <jcastro> cjohnston: pay no attention to the marco behind the counter
[01:10] <jcastro> http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro
[01:11] <jcastro> http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=mhall119
[01:11] <jcastro> and so on
[01:12] <cjohnston> interesting
[01:12] <cjohnston> what does that pull from
[01:13] <jcastro> my trello boards
[01:13] <jcastro> which has an API
[01:13] <cjohnston> ahh
[01:13] <jcastro> so the idea is
[01:13] <jcastro> you make "todo" "next" "in progress" "done"
[01:13] <jcastro> columns
[01:13] <jcastro> and then this takes them all up and shows them together
[01:13] <jcastro> so I have like my "juju" board, my "community board", etc.
[01:15] <marcoceppi> Right, it pulls all the cards you're attached to in Trello
[01:15] <cjohnston> i dont really see that replacing what we currently have
[01:15] <jcastro> right, because we're ubuntu
[01:15] <jcastro> I get that
[01:15] <jcastro> but pretend I want to use the right tools for the right job for a sec. :)
[01:15] <cjohnston> lol
[01:16] <cprofitt> jcastro: I had to postpone the askubuntu.com taks I had
[01:16] <cjohnston> jcastro: did you see my ping from a few hours ago?
[01:16] <jcastro> cjohnston: which ones?
[01:16] <jcastro> cprofitt: ok
[01:17] <cjohnston> about the status of the charm
[01:17] <cjohnston> he is back this week right?
[01:17] <jcastro> he is
[01:17] <jcastro> he's working on it today, tomorrow
[01:17] <cjohnston> sweet
[01:17] <jcastro> you should be set soon
[01:17] <cprofitt> jcastro: I think we are closer to being able to make it loco friendly, but not quite yet
[01:17] <jcastro> cjohnston: right so my idea is, beginning of the cycle I import my work items
[01:18] <jcastro> but this gives me an idea of what I need to do since right now trello boards are only like 2 dimensional
[01:18] <cjohnston> right
[01:18] <jcastro> I can't ask it to say "show me all the TODOs for all my boards"
[01:20] <cjohnston> if it didnt take so much time to get trello setup it would be cooler.. to me trello's use wasnt obvious
[01:20] <cjohnston> and setup took a bunch of time
[01:21] <cjohnston> plus LP is already in my workflow, where that is adding a new site
[01:21] <jcastro> that's fine
[01:22] <jcastro> but I do have some questions
[01:22] <greg-g> jcastro: loves adding new sites to his workflow, as long as they are charmable
[01:22] <jcastro> since you know this probably
[01:22] <cjohnston> lol @ greg-g
[01:22] <jcastro> cjohnston: if we took the scraper part of status.
[01:22] <jcastro> and had a write API to trello we can probably do a one way sync right?
[01:23] <cjohnston> your meaning to pull from trello?
[01:23] <cjohnston> probably
[01:23] <jcastro> no, pull from launchpad
[01:23] <jcastro> and put into trello
[01:23] <cjohnston> depends on if trello supports it
[01:23] <cjohnston> where you would run into problems is assignees
[01:23] <jcastro> marcoceppi: does their API do posts yet?
[01:23] <marcoceppi> jcastro: yup!
[01:23] <cjohnston> because we use LP nicks
[01:24] <marcoceppi> Not completely, but core items can be posted, things like moving cards, adding cards, some basic board manipulation
[01:25] <marcoceppi> You should be able to "bootstrap" a board though, and prefill with basic information
[01:25] <cjohnston> once you push it from status, what are you wanting to do with it
[01:28] <jcastro> put it in trello
[01:28] <cjohnston> thats it tho?
[01:29] <jcastro> well, what I really want is to be able to just use my WI in Trello and have it sync back to launchpad
[01:29] <jcastro> but that sounds hard
[01:30] <jcastro> but I figured one way would be lower effort
[01:36] <jcastro> cjohnston: so basically
[01:36] <jcastro> an alternative solution for people who want to use proper tools but not have to do work in 2 places.
[01:36] <mhall119> jcastro: go back one more step
[01:37] <mhall119> don't import from LP to trello, because it doesn't originate in LP now, it originates in etherpad
[01:37] <mhall119> go from etherpad to trell
[01:37] <mhall119> o
[01:37] <jcastro> ooooh
[01:37] <jcastro> ok so let's say we are at a session
[01:38] <jcastro> I jot down my WI's
[01:38] <jcastro> marcoceppi: is it possible to create a board via the API?
[01:39] <marcoceppi> jcastro: Yes
[01:39] <jcastro> ok so post UDS
[01:39] <jcastro> we hit some Magic Button
[01:39] <jcastro> and it creates a trello board for each spec
[01:39] <jcastro> so ... community-q-monoflamewar
[01:40] <jcastro> and then just shoves the workitems in the TODO column for each board
[01:40] <akgraner> holy cow - that would be freakin' AWESOME!!!
[01:40] <marcoceppi> It's within the realm of possible, based on the way the Trello API is setup
[01:40] <mhall119> jcastro: for each spec, or each track?
[01:41] <jcastro> each spec would be a board
[01:41] <jcastro> but since we follow the naming convention of etherpad
[01:41] <mhall119> also keep in mind we're going to have sessions without a blueprint
[01:41] <jcastro> THEY WILL BE IN TEAM ORDER ALREADY!!!
[01:41] <mhall119> yeah, no
[01:41] <jcastro> yeah but if they don't have WI we don't import them
[01:41] <mhall119> I mean following the name spec, we're not strict about session names anymore
[01:41] <jcastro> so we'll end up with 1 to 1 boards for each etherpad with WI on it
[01:41] <jcastro> right?
[01:42] <mhall119> right
[01:42] <mhall119> they'll need to be meeting.name + meeting.id
[01:44] <jcastro> so
[01:44] <jcastro> for the majority of them
[01:44] <jcastro> say ... community as an example
[01:44] <jcastro> we'd have them in order right off the bat.
[01:44] <marcoceppi> I'm just going to set this here: Trello doesn't care about duplicate board names: https://trello.com/sello
[01:44] <mhall119> why would they be in order?
[01:44] <jcastro> well
[01:44] <jcastro> on the boards list
[01:45] <jcastro> you'd look at: http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro
[01:45] <jcastro> and under Boards
[01:45] <mhall119> marcoceppi: we'd need some way of separating your UDS-session boards from any others
[01:45] <jcastro> it would be "community-q-juju"
[01:45] <jcastro> "community-q-whatever", and so on
[01:45] <jcastro> actually good point, why do I even care what order they are in?
[01:45] <mhall119> and if they don't have 'community-q-' in them?
[01:45] <mhall119> because we were talking about stripping that junk out
[01:46] <jcastro> oh ok
[01:46] <jcastro> how will you keep track of it in summit?
[01:46] <jcastro> however you do it
[01:46] <mhall119> we only care about meeting id
[01:46] <mhall119> meeting name is just UI
[01:46] <jcastro> what's the uservisible part of the meeting ID?
[01:46] <jcastro> oh
[01:46] <jcastro> then just pass the meeting name?
[01:46] <mhall119> to trello?
[01:46] <jcastro> yeah
[01:46] <mhall119> it'd have to be meeting name and id
[01:46] <jcastro> but like pass the ID to be in the description or something if we need it
[01:47] <jcastro> sure
[01:47] <mhall119> hmmm, I suppose we can just create a trello board with the meeting name, and store the trello-generated id/url/whatever in summit
[01:47] <mhall119> is trello open-souce?
[01:48] <marcoceppi> mhall119: It's not, it's made and offered by Fog Creek software
[01:49] <mhall119> ok
[01:49] <mhall119> if we're going to make summit integrate with an external system, it would be better if there was a way to run something different
[01:49] <mhall119> for example, linaro connect uses their own etherpad servers
[01:50] <mhall119> and it would theoretically be possible to integrate with a separate instance of Launchpad
[01:50] <jcastro> mhall119: I am under the assumption that Ubuntu as a project would never move to this
[01:50] <jcastro> so I am thinking integration if possible
[01:51] <mhall119> jcastro: right, but Linaro, or Plumbers, or OpenStack, might not want to use Fog Creek hosted software
[01:51] <jcastro> right
[01:51] <mhall119> so, like I said, it would have been better if they could run their own instance of trello
[01:52] <jcastro> you can run your own trello boards
[01:52] <mhall119> I'm not opposed to using trello, mind you, just that as a selling point it's harder for closed-source
[01:52] <jcastro> but it's a web service (SaaS) not PaaS
[01:52] <mhall119> can you make private boards?
[01:53] <marcoceppi> mhall119: yes
[01:53] <mhall119> that would be good for private meetings
[01:53] <mhall119> we can't do that with LP
[01:53] <marcoceppi> Private boards, Organizations, and something else
[01:53] <marcoceppi> It's basically Public, Members only (read access, but only members can change things), and Private
[01:54] <marcoceppi> With a few other permissions sprinkled in
[01:56] <jcastro> mhall119: yeah so that's why I was thinking like a sync or additive
[01:56] <jcastro> not a replacement
[01:57] <jcastro> I don't think wether it's OSS or closed matters.
[01:57] <jcastro> I couldn't convince anyone to use a team based todo system that was open
[01:57] <jcastro> so I've resigned that we'll be stuck with broken blueprints
[01:57] <jcastro> however that doesn't mean we can't have nice things. :)
[02:00] <jcastro> mhall119: right so my idea workflow wise is
[02:00] <jcastro> if you look at this page
[02:00] <jcastro> http://marco.ondinappr.com/user_breakdown.php?user=jorgecastro#tasks
[02:01] <jcastro> you know right off the bat
[02:01] <jcastro> "Jorge is working on that, and after that on that, and then there's the rest of the big pile"
[02:02] <jcastro> from right to left, just like the real board
[02:02] <jcastro> I don't have to explain to anyone what I am doing tomorrow, it's already there.
[02:03] <jcastro> then (check this out), my weekly status report becomes an API query. "Show everything jorge moved to DONE in the last 7 days"
[02:12] <mhall119> jcastro: does trello use your launchpad username?
[02:12] <jcastro> no, it doesn't even use openid
[02:12] <jcastro> google accounts right now. :(
[02:12] <jcastro> but if you look at my boards
[02:12] <mhall119> so how are we going to match people in summit with people on trello?
[02:13] <jcastro> I just put [jorge] blah on the cards
[02:13] <jcastro> when I copy and pasted them over.
[02:13] <jcastro> we haven't thought that far ahead yet
[02:14] <marcoceppi> mhall119 Think of this as a 3 hour proof of concept
[02:14] <marcoceppi> jcastro boards work
[02:14] <mhall119> yeah, and I like it
[02:14] <jcastro> mhall119: yeah so basically I was like "you know if we show them something working...."
[02:14] <mhall119> I'm just thinking ahead about what we will need in order to integrate
[02:14] <jcastro> yeah so, here's what I did this cycle
[02:15]  * mhall119 has his engineer hat on
[02:15] <jcastro> I copied and pasted all my work items into cards
[02:15] <marcoceppi> I've got to dash, I'll catch up in a bit
[02:15] <jcastro> and then, you can hover over each card
[02:15] <jcastro> and hit spacebar to assign it to yourself
[02:15] <jcastro> so I just clicked the top card, hit space, down arrow, space, down arrow
[02:15] <jcastro> and it took about 3 minutes
[02:16] <mhall119> we could hopefull provide a better experience than that
[02:16] <jcastro> right
[02:16] <jcastro> also we make assumptions about the columns
[02:16] <jcastro> we just picked todo, next, in progress, done
[02:16] <mhall119> if we're creating new boards, we can make them how we want, and just let it fail gracefully if they change them
[02:16] <marcoceppi> and on hold/postponed
[02:16] <jcastro> but trello doesn't really enforce a naming convention or anything, it just provides you a board with lists named whatever you want
[02:16] <jcastro> right!
[02:17] <jcastro> https://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea
[02:17] <jcastro> so for example that board doesn't follow any of the rest
[02:17] <jcastro> it's just a set of lists.
[02:17] <jcastro> but we wouldn't need to get that right I don't think
[02:18] <jcastro> we could get at least the everyday tasks done
[02:19] <mhall119> yeah, I think if we says "if these specific names exist, we use them, otherwise we don't", that's enough
[02:19] <jcastro> hey so an idea
[02:19] <jcastro> in trello we can fill things in the Bio field
[02:19] <jcastro> maybe putting our lp username somewhere so we can match?
[02:20] <mhall119> that might work
[02:21] <mhall119> we'd need to figure out what to do when someone doesn't have a trello account
[02:21] <jcastro> mhall119: also ,check out that bootstrap hotness
[02:21] <jcastro> you know you like it
[02:21] <mhall119> is nice, yes
[02:22] <mhall119> jcastro: are you or marco in touch with the trello developers?
[02:22] <marcoceppi> mhall119: I can be, the owner of Fog Creek Software is also co-founder of Stack Exchange
[02:23] <mhall119> so openid support would be a big plus
[02:23]  * marcoceppi is seriously going home
[02:24] <marcoceppi> be back in a bit!
[02:24] <mhall119> especially if we can lookup a user by their openid
[02:24] <mhall119> marcoceppi: I'll believe when I see it
[02:24] <jcastro> https://trello.com/board/trello-development/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c
[02:24] <jcastro> ok so they self host
[02:25] <jcastro> it might be in there somewhere, /me digs
[02:32] <bkerensa> jcastro: apparently that issue was a GPU lockup
[02:33] <bkerensa> :P the xorg people want me to ssh'in to my laptop over ethernet and collect logs next time it occurs
[02:33]  * mhall119 just saw a commercial for Internet Explorer on TV
[02:33] <mhall119> o_O
[02:34] <cjohnston> whats that
[02:34] <mhall119> some web browser or something
[02:34] <bkerensa> mhall119: thats why I dont watch TV
[02:34] <bkerensa> ;p
[04:23] <cjohnston> jono: I think the docs for accomplishments are wrong... but im too tired to make changes without talking to you first
[04:24] <cjohnston> "To run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and enter the daemon sub-directory and run the daemon:"
[04:24] <cjohnston> I think it should be:
[04:24] <jono> oh I thought czajkowski fixed this
[04:24] <cjohnston> To run you first need to run the daemon. Change to the ubuntu-accomplishments-system directory and run the daemon:
[04:24] <jono> fixing now
[04:25] <jono> fixed thanks
[04:25] <cjohnston> she may have fixed something else, but it doesnt look like that was touched
[04:25] <jono> akgraner, you should re-load the page to see
[04:25] <cjohnston> :-)
[04:25] <cjohnston> thanks akgraner
[04:25] <jono> cjohnston, yeah, I think she just missed the small bit off
[04:25] <cjohnston> :-)
[04:25] <akgraner> k
[04:25] <cjohnston> I opened install.sh to make sure it wasn't doing something I didn't know about before mentioning it though.. lol
[04:26] <akgraner> but I have the trophy's page telling my I need an ubuntu one account
[04:26] <cjohnston> g'nite all
[04:27] <akgraner> night
[04:28] <akgraner> which LP email do I use?  I have like 5 of them in there
[04:28] <cjohnston> i use my ubuntu.com one for some reason
[04:29] <akgraner> how do I add another email address
[04:33] <akgraner> hey this is kinda cool
[04:37] <akgraner> Ok I got trophies - I can sleep now :-)  Hey Jono this is pretty cool!
[04:37] <jono> akgraner, nice!
[04:37] <akgraner> catch you laters...
[04:37] <jono> akgraner, just leave the daemon running and the other trophies will come in
[04:38] <jono> and join the mailing list :-)
[04:38] <akgraner> ok will do - thanks!
[04:38] <jono> cjohnston, did you get it running?
[04:42] <akgraner> jono - I think he is afk right now
[04:49] <jono> np
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[08:43] <czajkowski> morning
[08:48] <popey> morning
[09:08] <czajkowski> bleugh
[09:08] <czajkowski> headache--
[10:14] <jokerdino> hey guys, how do i add a second level bullet points in ubuntu wiki?
[10:14] <czajkowski> jokerdino: hmm let me check
[10:15] <czajkowski> jokerdino: * just go in a space to indent it
[10:15] <jokerdino> er, i don't understand
[10:15] <czajkowski> jokerdino: what the page let me help you
[10:16] <jokerdino> It's my user page
[10:16] <jokerdino> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino
[10:16] <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok and what do you want to 2nd level bullet point?
[10:17] <jokerdino> the three linked questions and the one blog post
[10:17] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[10:17] <czajkowski> let me see
[10:17] <czajkowski> 2 ticks
[10:22] <czajkowski> wiki being slow
[10:23] <jokerdino> heh
[10:23] <czajkowski> jokerdino: fresh now ?
[10:24] <jokerdino> they are not on the 2nd level, are they?
[10:25] <czajkowski> jokerdino: not entirely sure what you mean by 2nd level, they were just  a* with no space the last time so weren't displaying as bullet points before
[10:25] <jokerdino> i mean like sub poiints
[10:26] <czajkowski> ahh
[10:27] <czajkowski> jokerdino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing  might help then
[10:27] <jokerdino> i tried, but i could never get to the second level
[10:28] <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok let me try again
[10:28] <jokerdino> thanks and sorry for bothering you :(
[10:32] <czajkowski> jokerdino: no you're not bothering me
[10:32] <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok refresh now
[10:32] <czajkowski> I've started the bulleting for you
[10:33] <czajkowski> you were for referene mising the first * of the paragraph so you can then add the 2nd level
[10:33] <head_victim> It's possible you need a first level list before going to a second level.
[10:33] <czajkowski> head_victim: yup
[10:33] <czajkowski> :)
[10:33] <head_victim> Just like czajkowski did :)
[10:33] <czajkowski> need more tea head doesnt function so well in the morning
[10:33] <head_victim> I'm considering bed.
[10:33] <czajkowski> jokerdino: if you need any more help just shout
[10:34] <czajkowski> head_victim: had a woefully long day yesterday and bad nights sleep
[10:34] <czajkowski> I'm gonna need all the help I can get today
[10:34] <jokerdino> ah thanks a lot people
[10:34] <head_victim> On a side note. popey rocks.
[10:34] <popey> uhoh
[10:34] <czajkowski> popey: does indeed rock
[10:34] <czajkowski> jokerdino: np
[10:35] <jokerdino> wait..
[10:35] <czajkowski> jokerdino: also good idea to have testimonals :)
[10:35] <jokerdino> i wanted to have bullet points for only the contributions :S
[10:35] <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok so go back in and remove the space from the *
[10:35] <jokerdino> czajkowski: i need testimonials?
[10:36] <czajkowski> you already have some on there
[10:36] <czajkowski> am saying well done on getting them
[10:36] <jokerdino> ah, i see. thanks
[10:36] <czajkowski> :)
[10:36] <jokerdino> i didn't ask for the testimonials actually. i was asking for help with the wiki markup
[10:37] <czajkowski> I know..
[10:37] <jokerdino> i mean, not here. but in the ask ubuntu chat room as well
[10:38] <jokerdino> i have edited the wiki page one more time, take a final look? :)
[10:39] <jokerdino> i think this lists some of my contributions
[10:39] <head_victim> Ah that makes sense and looks good.
[10:39] <czajkowski> jokerdino: looks well now
[10:39] <czajkowski> and yes people do randomly leave testimonals for people without asking
[10:39] <czajkowski> and it's nice to have them on the wiki page
[10:39] <jokerdino> thanks for your help again :)
[10:39] <czajkowski> jokerdino: you going for membership ?
[10:39] <czajkowski> jokerdino: no problem
[10:39] <head_victim> They're the best testimonials to get I think.
[10:40] <jokerdino> yeah, i am going to apply soon-ish
[10:40] <jokerdino> the meeting is next week, so prepping up before i throw myself in
[10:40] <czajkowski> jokerdino: best of luck
[10:41] <jokerdino> thanks
[11:14] <cjohnston> mornin
[11:14] <czajkowski> cjohnston: howdy
[11:15] <czajkowski> http://youtu.be/L5h02PRnsgs  good video to watch folks
[11:15] <czajkowski> cjohnston: hows the kiddies?
[11:16] <cjohnston> little guy is causing mommy problems this morning :-(
[11:16] <czajkowski> oh dear
[11:16] <czajkowski> but he's adorably cute
[11:16] <czajkowski> so he can possibly get away with it
[11:16] <cjohnston> yes he is
[11:16] <cjohnston> not this morning
[11:16] <czajkowski> heh
[11:17] <cjohnston> she changed his routine this morning and he is not happy about it
[11:17] <czajkowski> cjohnston: say hello to my favouite tea lady please
[11:17] <czajkowski> oh dear
[12:43] <jo-erlend> I wish we could have a more beautiful site for the Norwegian loco. Is there any chance of getting the theme from Ubuntu.com?
[12:45] <jo-erlend> http://ubuntu.no looks kinda... Non-smashing.
[12:46] <czajkowski> jo-erlend: not the worst I've seen
[12:46] <cjohnston> jo-erlend: there are community webthemes available on launchpad
[12:46] <cjohnston> lp.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes i think
[12:46] <jo-erlend> czajkowski, no, not the worst. :)
[12:47] <czajkowski> jo-erlend: I suspect as ye host it yerselves you get more ways to change it yourselves
[12:47] <czajkowski> as most teams go ubuntu-iso.org and are hosted by canonical in some cases
[12:53] <head_victim> We've recently moved to the Ubuntu Drupal theme, if you use a Drupal site it's actually quite awesome
[12:53] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal has all the info
[12:57] <czajkowski> head_victim: ah yes that was a fun rt to work on :)
[13:05] <cprofitt> what does l10n stand for?
[13:06] <cjohnston> localization
[13:07] <cprofitt> just a general term for it?
[13:08] <cprofitt> cool... something new learned
[13:08] <cjohnston> ya.. i believe so..
[13:08] <cjohnston> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization
[13:34] <mhall119> good morning
[13:34]  * balloons waves
[13:38] <cprofitt> jcastro: ping
[13:39] <cprofitt> have a person asking how to request sponsorship to UDS -- the page has changed and I do not see where that is located anymore
[13:40] <cjohnston> cprofitt: its well past time to apply
[13:40] <czajkowski> closed a long time ago
[13:40] <cprofitt> cjohnston: thanks I will let them know
[13:41] <cjohnston> :-)
[14:00] <snap-l> Yeah, it closed Feb 22 iirc.
[14:45] <jcastro> balloons: no issues since I adjusted the sticky launcher thing
[15:01] <czajkowski> hmmm
[15:02] <czajkowski> on latest updates my screen doesnt seem to get brighter when power supply is plugged in
[15:02] <czajkowski> annoying
[15:04] <cjohnston> mine has done that for a couple years
[15:04] <czajkowski> was working till monday
[15:31] <jono> dpm, hey
[15:31] <jono> all set?
[15:31] <dpm> jono, all set
[15:33] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[16:00] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 hangout invite sent
[16:00] <jono> I am already on with dpm
[16:02] <balloons> lost me client;; there we go
[16:03] <jcastro> I don't see an invite?
[16:03] <mhall119> balloons: we can't hear or see you
[16:04] <jcastro> oh I got it
[16:04] <jono> jcastro, this is using my Canonical G+
[16:05] <balloons> hmm
[16:11] <cprofitt> hey jono
[16:11] <cprofitt> hey bodhi_zazen
[16:16] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo cprofitt
[16:17] <cprofitt> how are you today bodhi_zazen ?
[16:31] <balloons> morninig cprofitt and bodhi_zazen :-)
[16:51] <bodhi_zazen> wb balloons
[17:00] <dholbach> dpm, gute Arbeit
[17:00] <dpm> dholbach, danke :-)
[17:07] <dholbach> jono, back again
[17:07] <jono> dholbach, cool
[17:07] <jono> will fire up a hangout
[17:07] <jono> hey cprofitt
[17:08] <jono> dholbach, invite sent
[17:36] <balloons> anyone else have apps display as all white when restoring them in full screen mode?
[17:42] <jcastro> on occassion, but only browser ones
[17:42] <jcastro> I do get a white rectangle on the top left corner right under the menu bar though
[17:43] <czajkowski> balloons: yes yesterday all day long
[17:43] <czajkowski> balloons: but I also have some issues when my applciations redraw :/
[17:44] <balloons> czajkowski, jcastro it fixes itself for me by unmaxing and then remaxing the window
[17:44] <balloons> same issue for you/
[17:44] <balloons> i'll go see if there is a bug on this then..
[17:44] <czajkowski> balloons: nope for the white screen I've to reboot
[17:44] <czajkowski> for redrawing I've logged the bug
[17:44] <czajkowski> it got marked invalid yesterday thenback up to medium :.
[17:44] <czajkowski> :/
[17:45] <balloons> ohh.. do you have a #?
[17:46] <czajkowski> yup
[17:46] <czajkowski> 2 ticks
[17:46] <czajkowski> balloons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/938653
[17:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 938653 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[snb-m-gt2] applications fail to redraw" [Medium,Incomplete]
[17:47] <balloons> i see i
[17:47] <balloons> wicked
[17:48] <czajkowski> wicked isn't how I'd refer to it when I've lots of redrwating going on :_
[17:48] <czajkowski> :)
[17:49] <balloons> lol, not a feature for you eh? must be a bug then ;-)
[17:56] <dholbach_> alright my friends - time to call it a day
[17:56] <dholbach_> see you all tomorrow
[17:56] <dholbach_> big hugs
[17:57] <nigelb> g'nit dholbach_!
[17:57] <dholbach_> bye nigelb
[18:04] <czajkowski> balloons: annoying when a bug gets marked invalid when you can show a screen capture of it happening
[18:20] <jono> czajkowski, sometimes that can be because it is either not a bug, or another bug
[18:20] <jono> invalid has always caused controversy in LP
[18:24] <cprofitt> jono: Yeah, I had to get used to that as I learned more about triage. charlie-tca and hggdh taught me a great deal about that
[18:24] <cprofitt> it will be a pain point as we teach people how to report bugs... it really feels 'negative' to the bug reporter
[18:26] <hggdh> the problem is usually when a bug is set to invalid without an explanation
[18:26] <cprofitt> +1 hggdh
[18:26] <hggdh> (of course, the coarseness of the valid status on LP is also limiting)
[18:26] <daker> jono, hey i can't make hangout today, i don't have internet at home right now
[18:27] <jono> daker, np
[18:27] <jono> thanks for letting me know
[18:27] <jono> daker, I think I might need to cancel it
[18:27] <daker> ツ
[18:27] <jono> I totally forgot to email and remind everyone
[18:27] <jono> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6962235413_8fafc1513e_o.jpg
[18:27] <nigelb> jono: slacker :P
[18:27] <daker> wahahahahaha
[18:27] <jono> indeed
[18:27] <jono> lulz :-)
[18:27] <nigelb> HAHAHAHA
[18:28] <nigelb> this is awesome!
[18:28] <nigelb> halo for dholbach, how appropriat
[18:28] <nigelb> +e
[18:29] <cprofitt> jono: we played with those the other night (LC)
[18:29] <cprofitt> cracked me up since I did not know there were there
[18:30] <cprofitt> good thing I wasn't drinking a soda at the time
[18:30] <jussi> dpm looks truly evil...
[18:37] <czajkowski> jono: oh I know but it was marked invalid pending a plan to do something should just have ben left at low has been since moved to medium
[18:38] <czajkowski> jono: oh is the hangoug cancled?
[18:39] <jono> czajkowski, I think I might do, as I didnt get a chance to email everyone
[18:39] <jono> so I don't want it to be empty
[18:39] <jono> and waste your time czajkowski
[18:39] <jono> lets sync up next week
[18:39] <jono> I will send out an email
[18:41] <czajkowski> I'd even set my alarm, good thing you told me or I may have had to strangle you :p
[19:05] <jono> czajkowski, :-)
[19:18] <jcastro> mhall119: heya
[19:19] <jcastro> here's the code from the prototype from last night https://github.com/marcoceppi/Strapello
[19:19] <jcastro> cjohnston: also ^
[19:49] <bkerensa> doing a presentation to a auditorium of people over Google+ Hangout is not the easiest :P
[19:49] <bkerensa> jono: btw we used your global jam video for a intro at our jam :)
[19:57] <bodhi_zazen> This bug report is getting a little off topic - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112/comments/24
[19:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:11] <bkerensa> bodhi_zazen: That likely should be marked wishlist
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> perhaps, but, the forums should be added, it is a major source of support and a good opportunity for community building, no reason not to include a patch if submitted
[20:14] <bkerensa> bodhi_zazen: no doubt there.... How is progress on the update going anyways?
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936163
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> The forums community is very interested, bodsda  will likely have a draft in the next day or two, will ask the forums community for input / feedback
[20:17] <bodhi_zazen> forums upgrade seems to have made some progress, but, not much activity in the last week or two
[20:21] <bodhi_zazen> If you want a new theme, use this http://userstyles.org/styles/40915/ubuntu-forums-new-theme
[20:31] <jcastro> I love the facebook ubuntu comments
[20:31] <jcastro> people have no concept of topic
[20:32] <jcastro> "join my server juju charm school!"
[20:32] <jcastro> then it's like "Why don't you make something like active directory?"
[20:32] <bkerensa> bodhi_zazen: I just had Bug #894112 marked as wishlist and I am trying to see through progress on another ubiquity bug so I will mention it to the person who handles ubiquity
[20:32] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 894112 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894112
[20:33] <bkerensa> jcastro: can Canonical employees enter the juju charm contest? I was discussing it with someone on the server team during our jam :P
[20:33] <jcastro> yes
[20:33] <jcastro> the only restriction for employees is if they're paid to write charms
[20:33] <jcastro> so like, juju core, SI team, and mark and clint basically
[20:34] <jcastro> they're expected to review incoming charms and assist entrants.
[20:34] <bkerensa> jcastro: adam_g?
[20:34] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:34] <jcastro> hah no
[20:34] <bkerensa> LOL
[20:34] <jcastro> if he entered it'd be no contest.
[20:34] <bkerensa> ;d
[20:35] <jcastro> "I made it so you can deploy openstack in like 10 commands."
[20:35] <jcastro> would be unfair to everyone
[20:35] <bkerensa> hehehe
[20:35] <jcastro> I really want that IRC subway thing though
[20:35] <jcastro> you gotta talk to em for me
[20:35] <jcastro> I've got shirts and mugs for all charmers who submit a working charm
[20:38] <bkerensa> lol
[20:39] <jcastro> bodhi_zazen: waiting on hard drives is the last status I got this morning wrt. upgrade
[20:39] <bkerensa> jcastro: You realize your talking OSU-OSL? :P they can get shirts and mugs by the crate :)
[20:41] <jcastro> I have SPECIAL EDITION juju shirts though
[20:41] <jcastro> anyone can get an ubuntu shirt.
[20:41] <jcastro> This shirt is for Charmers.
[20:41] <jcastro> Coveted by many. Earned by few.
[20:44] <bkerensa> jcastro: see when you come for oscon... I can maybe round up the OSU folks ;p
[20:44] <jcastro> what? that's like, in the summer
[20:44] <jcastro> I want to move to subway like ... today!
[20:44] <bkerensa> jcastro: progress takes time
[20:45] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:45] <bkerensa> I have been waiting for 3 release cycles for a ubiquity bug to fixed :)
[20:47] <AlanBell> wonder if that part at least works right now
[20:48] <bkerensa> AlanBell: The embedded terminal window in ubiquity? A fix was just pushed
[20:49] <AlanBell> I meant ubiquity with orca, the rest of the desktop is completely broken at the moment
[20:49] <AlanBell> dash, menus, indicators, launcher all broken
[20:50] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Oh? Hmm I better not do a update because mine is working ;p
[20:50] <AlanBell> only broken with orca
[20:54] <popey> bodhi_zazen: I find it interesting that there was uproar that uf wasn't mentioned in the slideshow, and AU was, and now that the patch has been provided which _removes_ AU and gives favour to UF, now, you want to shutdown discussion?
[20:54] <popey> I am dissapoint ☹
[21:01] <jcastro> snap-l: remember our bet from last year? I just found this and lol'ed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/mac.png
[21:02] <popey> haha jcastro
[21:04] <snap-l> jcastro: Yeah yeah... I still owe you a case of beer
[21:05]  * snap-l should have added iOS devices to that bet.
[21:08] <jcastro> oh ok, in that case I'll add android devices.
[21:08] <jcastro> :)
[21:08] <jcastro> you can't win Craig.
[21:10] <snap-l> If you can get Android devices running Windows, I'll give you three cases of beer
[21:11]  * snap-l waits for the link
[21:12] <jcastro> hah
[21:13] <jcastro> that's like trading in a Fender for a 2x4 and some paperclips. No thanks. :)
[21:20] <jcastro> mhall119: other than the front page, do you syndicate from any other site on loco.u.c?
[21:20] <mhall119> jcastro: nope, that's it
[21:55] <jcastro> mhall119: ok bug filed
[21:55] <jcastro> mhall119: I would feel better if someone were to investigate my claims before proceeding.
[21:55] <mhall119> yeah I bet you would
[21:55] <jcastro> like, I know it's important, the implementation and all that, not sure.
[21:56] <jcastro> I suspect that we'd need someone to look at *.ubuntu.com at some point wrt. that.
[21:56]  * mhall119 nominates jcastro 
[21:57] <jcastro> no I mean a real SEO person.
[22:14] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you jono : http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/07/ubuntu-forums-and-askubuntu/
[22:14] <jono> bodhi_zazen, :-)
[22:14] <jono> keep up the great work, my friend