[00:16] <hads> Forgot to include some electrical stuff and had to replace a rotten window were the main ones, other than that just general overspend.
[00:26]  * ibeardslee makes a note to include replacing the bathroom heater
[00:30] <ajmitch> nice, orcon ufb plans announced & not looking too expensive
[00:44] <hads> Not so nice, they include calling.
[00:47] <ajmitch> hoepfully other ISPs will have plans in the near future
[00:53] <G> ajmitch: my biggest disappointment is that there isn't really an incentive for low users to get off Copper/Dialup and onto the fibre, part of the problem admittedly is that there is no money to be made from such customers
[00:54] <ajmitch> G: right, there especially won't be an incentive if people have to pay to get fibre connected to their home, and get new hardware
[00:56] <G> I'd love to (for instance) get my Uncle off dial-up, he's shot down ADSL etc in the past (fair enough), but it's at the point where it'd be good to upgrade the full thing and then let it be, but even w/ the 5GB plan that Orcon on Twitter mentioned, I'd say it'd still be priced too high on a /mo basis
[00:56] <ajmitch> people might move when they get TV over fibre
[00:57] <G> (Although part of the price comparison issue, is that he's on a special Telecom landline plan,  where as a low user he pays 1/2-3/4 the normal monthly rental and instead pays for some local calls
[00:59] <G> (for people reading and thinking: oooh, near-naked BB, I'd 99.9% sure Telecom don't offer the plan for new customers anymore)
[01:01] <ajmitch> those sort of plans stick around for awhile for existing customers
[01:02] <ajmitch> looks like where I live is about 2 blocks away from the year 1 rollout in dunedin, so I may not have to care too much about UFB plans for awhile yet :)
[01:05] <G> ajmitch: yeah, and I think that is one of Telecom's (and most other teleco's) strong points, that they are willing to grandfather plans, but for instance, a 15Mbps/1Mbps, 3-5GB/mo + low calling, would be perfect for a lot of older folks that don't care/don't use the net much, as for UFB, my address = never, and 3-4 years for RBI :(
[01:06] <ajmitch> I wonder what my grandmother uses
[01:09] <jogster> Got a lovely sample of gold from NZ today
[01:10] <jogster> to add to my collection
[01:10] <jogster> http://i.imgur.com/6adgR.jpg
[01:10] <jogster> Isnt she lovely?
[01:12] <snail> jogster: which part of nz is it from?
[01:15] <jogster> hauraki goldfieldd
[01:15] <jogster> Coromandel
[01:15] <snail> nod
[01:16] <jogster> I have a large collection of minerals, rocks, gems and meteorites from all around the globe
[01:16] <jogster> over 6,000 items its one of the largest privately held collections in the planet.
[01:16] <jogster> it was started by my great grandfather over 50 years ago
[01:17] <jogster> imgur.com/a/XPGHV#0
[01:17] <jogster> Heres some samples from the collection
[01:19] <snail> what's the metadata like?
[01:20] <jogster> i have great documentation for all of it but i only have photos of about 20%
[01:21] <jogster> I have a great digitized archive library of all the information on each and every item
[01:27] <jogster> We developed our own metadata index and web services middle layers that provide us with a unified view from multiple collection repositories
[01:28] <jogster> I used apache lucen/solr
[01:28] <jogster> and a set of complementary request and delivery services using java
[01:29] <jogster> the metadata model itself uses established standards like dublic core MARC and METS
[01:30] <jogster> and its got a user friendly search interfance through java and css online
[01:31] <snail> jogster: does it have a url?
[01:31] <jogster> not publicly accessible
[01:31] <snail> jogster:  using formats like that, #code4lib might be of interest to you
[01:32] <jogster> I didnt really develop the system but thanks :D
[01:33] <jogster> you know about METS MARC and dublic core ideas?
[01:33] <jogster> dublin*
[01:34] <snail> i know of these, and more besides
[01:34] <snail> i use them in http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ and other websites
[01:35] <jogster> my digital archivists love this system
[01:35] <jogster> it makes their life much easier
[01:35] <jogster> you know how hard adding metadata to digital photos can be?
[01:35] <jogster> files from years ago can become forgotten or obsolete as formats
[01:36] <jogster> as forms change*
[01:36] <jogster> formats
[01:36] <jogster> add to that that our filed are everywhere
[01:36] <jogster> online on computers and servers cds, dvds and and thumbdrives tucked in drawers and closets
[01:40] <jogster> so we did a lot of data mapping
[01:42] <jogster> do you admin those websites?
[01:44] <snail> i do the techie side of that website
[07:52] <mwhudson> say what? https://www.facebook.com/ubuntunz
[07:54] <ajmitch> looks like they're even using the ubuntu font in their logo
[07:56] <ajmitch> https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=181228415318644 has sort of an explanation
[08:27] <hads> Seems reasonable. Except the font thing.
[08:33] <ajmitch> yeah, using the name & the font together have a bit more potential for confusion
[08:34] <ajmitch> though it looks like the old ubuntu title font anyway
[09:16] <mwhudson> ah, cool
[09:40] <ojwb> the ubuntu font isn't a good example really, as that's rather closely connected to the OS
[18:28] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:30] <ibeardslee> hmmm .. but what about the Ubuntu One Music store?
[18:55] <snail> mōrena
[19:02] <codepal> morning
[19:26] <Atamira> mornin
[19:32] <ajmitch> morning
[19:33] <ajmitch> such a bright & sunny day
[19:33] <ajmitch> one that shows up every speck of dust on my monitor
[19:37] <ibeardslee> overcast and windy here
[19:37] <ibeardslee> this morning I didn't hear my alarm over the wind
[19:38] <ajmitch> no wind here, and I don't think I saw any clouds in the sky
[19:39] <ibeardslee> alright alright stop rubbing it in
[19:40] <ajmitch> I didn't say it was warm outside :)
[19:42] <ibeardslee> sun and no wind > warm
[20:24] <mwhudson> morning
[22:21] <ojwb> morning
[22:22] <hads> morning