| buzz_ | I just updated ubuntu precise packages (running xfce) and firefox is crashing when typing in a couple of characters to the address bar. Anyone else seeing this ? | 02:16 |
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| buzz_ | seems to affect thunderbird also | 02:19 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:07 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Notes From Canonical Community Team Meeting - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/07/notes-from-canonical-community-team-meeting/ | 08:18 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:26 |
| popey | morning | 08:27 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:27 |
| daubers | so I think my memory leak is down to the Arduino Strings classes | 08:30 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: cool | 08:34 |
| daubers | Need to run some tests this afternoon to double check though | 08:34 |
| mattt | morning | 08:38 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:45 |
| MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon | 08:46 |
| brobostigon | o/ MartijnVdS | 08:47 |
| === chalced is now known as chalcedony | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:12 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm :) | 09:13 |
| bigcalm | Hi brobostigon | 09:14 |
| ubuntubhoy | is it possible to remove lightdm without removing ubuntu-desktop ? | 09:28 |
| JamesTait | Morning all! :D | 09:28 |
| JamesTait | ubuntubhoy: According to aptitude info, it would appear not. | 09:29 |
| ubuntubhoy | yeah | 09:29 |
| ubuntubhoy | giving me grief | 09:29 |
| ubuntubhoy | netbook wont boot past checking bat stats | 09:29 |
| ubuntubhoy | and I think lightdm is the issue | 09:30 |
| JamesTait | ubuntubhoy: I may be wrong, but I think if you mention this in #ubuntu-desktop they'll be able to help you. | 09:30 |
| ubuntubhoy | cheers, will join & ask | 09:30 |
| JamesTait | If not, they'll probably have a better idea than me where else to ask. :) | 09:31 |
| christel | GOOD MORNING | 10:21 |
| gord | loud =\ | 10:21 |
| christel | aw sorry | 10:32 |
| bigcalm | HELLO CHRISTEL! :) | 10:35 |
| christel | HELLO BIGCLAM | 10:35 |
| * AlanBell is an anticapitalist | 10:35 | |
| diplo | heh bigclam | 10:36 |
| diplo | :P | 10:36 |
| AlanBell | bigclams sound tasty | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: give me your money | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | I shall always be a clam to christel | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | Wednesday night = Wolves LUG night = steak night \o/ | 10:41 |
| andylockran | nhowdy | 10:43 |
| * andylockran is anti-growth and pro-prosperity | 10:43 | |
| === Killerjim is now known as KMus | ||
| christel | mmmclams | 10:45 |
| * daubers is pro cake | 10:45 | |
| bigcalm | I wish pay day would hurry up and get here so that I can pay my car insurance. Direct Line want over 750 quid, Hastings Direct quote 488 quid. What does Direct Line know that I don't? | 10:46 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: how to make money | 10:46 |
| christel | are you with direct line currently? | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | Have been for 5+ years | 10:46 |
| christel | *nod* | 10:46 |
| christel | they wanted to up our premiums by ridiculous amounts last year, so i looked around, found a better quote -- phoned them to say i would be going elsewhere | 10:47 |
| christel | and they then beat the other quote by a significant chunk of money | 10:47 |
| bigcalm | Once I have money in my account I'll be calling them to see why they think they can play this | 10:47 |
| christel | (making my premiums even smaller than they previously had been) | 10:47 |
| christel | yeah, definitely phone them | 10:47 |
| bigcalm | Sadly I forgot about looking around last year. Insurance auto renewed on me :( | 10:47 |
| diplo | christel, I tried that last year with Churchill | 10:48 |
| diplo | been with them probably 7-8 years if not longer | 10:48 |
| diplo | No accidents in 15+ years never claimed on them | 10:49 |
| diplo | And they were dearer than 20 other insurers | 10:49 |
| diplo | :/ | 10:49 |
| daubers | Oooooh... forgot about the 4 day weekend next month | 10:49 |
| * daubers ponders a picnic at Bletchley | 10:50 | |
| christel | :( | 10:51 |
| christel | ooh we have a 4 day weekend | 10:51 |
| daubers | 6-9 April :) | 10:51 |
| christel | nice | 10:52 |
| === joar_ is now known as CosmicB | ||
| daubers | So who fancies a picnic on the 6th of April? | 10:53 |
| * czajkowski shal be in ireland | 10:54 | |
| andylockran | daubers: where? | 10:54 |
| andylockran | Bletchley :D | 10:54 |
| daubers | Yup :) | 10:54 |
| daubers | czajkowski: That's a silly place to be | 10:55 |
| gord | on second thought, lets not go to ireland, tis a silly place | 10:57 |
| MartijnVdS | "The Land of Ire" | 10:57 |
| bigcalm | gord: :D | 11:03 |
| BigRedS | Anyone know how to get Mac Mail to recheck with an IMAP server for new folders? | 11:06 |
| BigRedS | my google fu is failing | 11:06 |
| MartijnVdS | close it, then restart? | 11:08 |
| HazRPG | hey all \o | 11:10 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: sup dude :) | 11:10 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 11:10 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: 2 weeks of NOTHING :) | 11:10 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: Just thought I'd keep you in the loop, finally got round to doing a full reinstall :) | 11:10 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: Does pulse work now? | 11:11 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: yeah I know, been d/c'ed for a while... finally got my internet sorted out (2Mbps sadly ;() | 11:11 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: as long as it works.. :) | 11:11 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: yeah it does, plus wine1.3 has sound too :) | 11:12 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: (I meant: "I've taken 2 weeks off work") | 11:12 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: oh heh :P | 11:12 |
| * daubers goes to fail another motorbike test | 11:12 | |
| diplo | Good luck! | 11:12 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: No you're not! *\o/* daubers | 11:13 |
| DJones | +1 to that, good luck | 11:13 |
| HazRPG | daubers: good luck dude | 11:13 |
| * MartijnVdS is off to the stores for a bit | 11:14 | |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: enjoy :) | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | Morning davmor2 | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | Morning people | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | morning bigcalm | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod! | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: poke | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | yay czajkowski is broken took long enough :P | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | Morning MooDoo | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | how are you davmor2 ? | 11:18 |
| bigcalm | czajkowski: you were doing so well | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | I made it to march | 11:19 |
| bigcalm | Will you now need to make up for lost time? | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | poor nights sleep shall go back to being normal again | 11:22 |
| selinuxium | Morning all o/ | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: still recovering from the trip to the big smoke yesterday | 11:24 |
| * AlanBell will be in London tomorrow evening | 11:24 | |
| AlanBell | with TheOpenSourcerer and the other UK OpenERP partners | 11:25 |
| andylockran | h, very nice | 11:29 |
| andylockran | what for? | 11:29 |
| andylockran | meeting, planning, new project? | 11:29 |
| AlanBell | beer :) | 11:33 |
| iclebyte | is there some app which lets you pick a mirror and setup your /etc/apt/sources.list file? | 11:33 |
| AlanBell | iclebyte: there is something that picks your closest mirror and sets it all up for you | 11:34 |
| gord | software-sources has a button for that | 11:34 |
| iclebyte | AlanBell, what is the utility called? | 11:34 |
| iclebyte | is it a dpkg util ? | 11:34 |
| AlanBell | it is in software-sources | 11:34 |
| AlanBell | as gord mentioned :) | 11:35 |
| iclebyte | in synaptic? | 11:35 |
| iclebyte | there must be a command line util | 11:35 |
| AlanBell | no, you can get to it without going via synaptic | 11:35 |
| iclebyte | how? | 11:35 |
| iclebyte | (server | 11:35 |
| iclebyte | ) | 11:35 |
| gord | you could write a script that pings all the mirrors and then chooses the one with the lowest ping if you really wanted to do it command line | 11:36 |
| iclebyte | no worries, i thought there was a utility as a standard part of dpkg | 11:37 |
| iclebyte | thanks anyway | 11:37 |
| popey | i did that gord ☺ | 11:38 |
| jpds | iclebyte: Just use gb.archive.ubuntu.com :P | 11:39 |
| bigcalm | What's for lunch? | 11:58 |
| gord | i think the big ploughmans sammich from the shop down the road, that thing is nice | 11:59 |
| * popey ponders lunch also | 12:00 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | did someone say lunch? | 12:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I haz chocolate cake | 12:02 |
| BigRedS | I had chocolate cake... | 12:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Curried beans? | 12:02 |
| * popey ponders | 12:02 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cheese & Marmite on toast | 12:03 |
| DJones | TheOpenSourcerer: That sounds good, although would be better without the Marmite & toast | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: You're a sick sick man | 12:04 |
| popey | for some reason I really fancy a pot noodle | 12:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | What? | 12:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ^^ davmor2 | 12:05 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: Ruining cheese with Marmite | 12:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's a great combination. | 12:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | You should try it sometime ;-) | 12:05 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: No Marmite makes feel sick before it close to my gob :D | 12:06 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: You're welcome to love it but I'm firmly in the hate camp | 12:06 |
| christel | i have only had marmite once | 12:06 |
| christel | shortly after coming to the uk | 12:06 |
| christel | i assumed it was chocolate spread (well, it was brown and on toast..) | 12:07 |
| christel | my tastebuds went into shock | 12:07 |
| davmor2 | christel: that's okay theres room over here in the Hate camp :) | 12:07 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5gNEiUxMk | 12:07 |
| popey | for gord | 12:08 |
| christel | davmor2: yay! | 12:08 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: I have vanilla shortbread for the hate camp ;) | 12:08 |
| MartijnVdS | *afk for a few minutes* | 12:08 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: haha, you're definitely in then :) | 12:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | mmm - cheese on toast, marmite and tomato puree :-D | 12:40 |
| popey | nom | 12:40 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: there is a reason that Ketchup, brown sauce and Branston Pickle were invented :P | 12:41 |
| popey | so that northerners would eat some fruit and vegetables? | 12:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | hah | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | popey: this from the man who snook off and made a advert in las vegas and never told anyone :P | 12:48 |
| popey | i have no idea what you're talking about (again) | 12:49 |
| Myrtti | you're so money supermarket | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | and subtly changing your name to Brian so we won't think it's you ;) | 12:50 |
| DJones | popey: http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2012/01/06/moneysupermarket-launches-new-epic-ad-set-las-vegas (In case you've not seen it) | 12:52 |
| davmor2 | popey: the thing that made me laugh was the first time my wife saw it she went that looks like whatsit from uds, me: who Popey, Wifey: Yes that's the one :D | 12:52 |
| popey | i refuse to accept it exists | 12:53 |
| BigRedS | Gotta say, I'd not seen the likeness before | 12:56 |
| BigRedS | But now I completely can | 12:56 |
| gordonjcp | I think he looks more like dotwaffle | 12:56 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. popey == dotwaffle?! | 12:57 |
| MartijnVdS | come to think of it.. I've never seen them together in the same room | 12:58 |
| Dave2 | Haha. I had not seen that ad before. | 12:59 |
| gordonjcp | I've seen a photo of dotwaffle and popey in the same room, but I think it was photoshopped because of some of the pixels | 13:00 |
| gord | popey, retort http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=WlD2X0kYkxo | 13:01 |
| Myrtti | I've even talked to both in the same event | 13:15 |
| andylockran | yo | 13:38 |
| andylockran | I'm going ipv6 at home (or at least I want to) | 13:38 |
| andylockran | I'm with sky broadband, any tips on routers .etc? | 13:42 |
| popey | lolsky | 13:43 |
| andylockran | was that a russion lol, or lol sky | 13:43 |
| Myrtti | lol sky | 13:44 |
| directhex | ipv6 on sky? yeah, not happening | 13:46 |
| jpds | andylockran: No, that's лол. | 13:50 |
| andylockran | I've set up a tunnel to just my laptop | 13:55 |
| andylockran | was thinking of asking for a 54 from my hosting provider and setting up my own tunnel through to home - just wasn't sure what to use as the endpoint at home. | 13:55 |
| andylockran | is teredo a bad idea for a 'roaming' machine? | 14:00 |
| * MartijnVdS gets a /48 routed to home | 14:00 | |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/873082/ What do you expect this bit of PHP to do? | 14:47 |
| dwatkins | echo 'true', but I'm guessing this is a trick question | 14:48 |
| bigcalm | dwatkins: do you have PHP installed on a handy machine to run it? | 14:49 |
| bigcalm | Why would you expect it to echo 'true' ? | 14:49 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: yeah, not sure how to run it from the command line, but I could put that into some html I guess | 14:49 |
| bigcalm | If you have php-cli installed, you'd run it with php file.php | 14:49 |
| dwatkins | I did that, seems to output the entire file, bigcalm | 14:50 |
| bigcalm | Oh, add <?php to the 1st line | 14:51 |
| BigRedS | dwatkins: you need a <?php at the beginning | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | aha, thanks folks | 14:51 |
| bigcalm | I have to remove the <?php from pastebin pastes | 14:51 |
| BigRedS | anything not in <?php ?> tags is assumed to be text to be echoed. But you don't need the closing ?> any more and it's a bit frowned upon now | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | ok, I get 'true' running that on BSD. | 14:51 |
| BigRedS | since if there's linebreaks after it it can cause problems when you try to edit headers | 14:51 |
| bigcalm | Right, why does it return true? | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | because the strings/numbers are equivalent | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | They aren't | 14:52 |
| BigRedS | well, == is an arithmetic comparison, not a string comparison | 14:52 |
| dwatkins | haha, good point | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | Look at the last digit | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | I see | 14:52 |
| bigcalm | I did wonder why it worked when I used === | 14:52 |
| BigRedS | so it might be that they're casted to strings by the 's and then both are true. | 14:52 |
| dwatkins | they're not arithmetically equivalent though | 14:52 |
| * BigRedS doesn't do php | 14:52 | |
| bigcalm | <Aquarion> bigcalm: I expect it to break maxint and therefore be true. | 14:52 |
| * dwatkins wondered if it was a rounding error | 14:52 | |
| BigRedS | aha | 14:53 |
| bigcalm | Between 2 channels I have learnt a little more. Cheers :) | 14:53 |
| dwatkins | I'd be interested to know the issue | 14:55 |
| gord | hard to get work done when it looks so nice outside | 15:12 |
| BigRedS | work fixed that for me by not having windows | 15:23 |
| gord | the thinkpad is nice and portable and has lots of battery life, maybe i'll be able to get some coding done at the park in the sun this year ;) | 15:25 |
| === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell | ||
| BigRedS | "You bought me a laptop, I thought you *wanted* me to go to the park all day!" | 15:29 |
| andylockran | howdy | 15:48 |
| bigcalm | Thanks to htop, I found that I had installed drizzle and forgotten about it. Constantly running and doing nothing. DELETED! | 15:53 |
| bigcalm | </strongbad> | 15:53 |
| MartijnVdS | BALEETED! | 15:54 |
| Dave2 | Was it raining on your CPU's parade? | 15:55 |
| bigcalm | Nope, but high enough up the list for me to notice | 15:56 |
| BigRedS | ncdu is better than du by way more than htop is better than top | 16:07 |
| bigcalm | What does nc du for you? | 16:13 |
| BigRedS | it's a cursesy du | 16:13 |
| BigRedS | so it does a du on a directory and then you go down to the one you're interested in and hit enter and it dus that dir | 16:14 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Most intersting | 16:15 |
| bigcalm | interesting | 16:15 |
| bigcalm | Installed but will I remember to use it? :) | 16:15 |
| === AppleJ is now known as mh0 | ||
| davmor2 | bigcalm: probably not, you have a head and often forget to use that :P | 16:19 |
| bigcalm | Och, well I never | 16:20 |
| bigcalm | No beer for you tonight! | 16:20 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: So just like normal then :) | 16:20 |
| bigcalm | Yep | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | I'm quite enjoying this 'socialising' thing | 16:23 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/705007/comments/11 | 16:24 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 705007 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity has no method to maintain properties of launchers" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:24 |
| popey | would be lovely if someone picked up ULE | 16:24 |
| MartijnVdS | Let's first fix the "menu doesn't show up until you move your mouse" bug | 16:25 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: so now I've had time to look and all that I'll run a happy hour on the 19th of April then that is one a month for a start and also means people have time to prep for it | 16:25 |
| AlanBell | \o/ | 16:26 |
| popey | yay | 16:26 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: it can act as a pre-release party too :) | 16:26 |
| AlanBell | yup | 16:26 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: where were you thinking? | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: that'll be the next job | 16:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Gosh - The Landlady at my local won the Pub Pie Championship! http://www.britishpieweek.co.uk/index.php?p=be_the_face | 16:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I blame popey - he got me thinking about Pi(e) farms | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | Does she have a face like a pie? | 16:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's her face | 16:56 |
| bigcalm | Oh, I hadn't followed the link | 16:57 |
| AlanBell | oh wow, my daughter has just made a laptop out of paper | 17:03 |
| * AlanBell takes photos | 17:03 | |
| bigcalm | Cool | 17:06 |
| bigcalm | How old is your daughter? | 17:06 |
| AlanBell | 9 | 17:09 |
| AlanBell | https://plus.google.com/u/0/109175303602657131317/posts/cGGEd2zzCUK | 17:09 |
| gord | AlanBell, you could totally sell this device to hipsters all over the globe | 17:11 |
| gord | market it with "innovative stylus interaction" and ship with a ball point pen | 17:11 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: that is so sweet :) | 17:11 |
| AlanBell | https://plus.google.com/u/0/109175303602657131317/posts/438PERhMUag video :) | 17:12 |
| bigcalm | AND it runs Ubuntu! | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | it does :) | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | keyboard is interesting, mostly alphabetical | 17:12 |
| * bigcalm ponders continuing work at the LUG meeting tonight | 17:21 | |
| * AlanBell finds the code for the annoying and useless unity panel drop shadow | 17:23 | |
| AlanBell | wonder what would happen if I submit a patch to remove it | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | People will rejoice? | 17:24 |
| gord | AlanBell, shadow being over non active windows is not a bug, unfortunately =\ | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | and shadow becoming detached from top bar when using compiz enhanced zoom also isn't a bug | 17:25 |
| AlanBell | I could make it a ccsm setting to turn the silly thing off | 17:25 |
| gord | don't | 17:25 |
| gord | if you want a setting, use gsettings | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | isn't that the same thing that ccsm pokes at? | 17:26 |
| gord | no | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | err, ok, so where is the user interface to poke gettings settings? | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | and won't that be confusing if most config options are in the ccsm plugin but some things are elsewhere? | 17:28 |
| gord | AlanBell, either the appearance section of control centre or my unity - no one should be using ccsm really | 17:35 |
| AlanBell | myunity is a pile of fail | 17:35 |
| AlanBell | gambas, bad bad bad UI, any change to the plugin needs a synchronised change to myunity | 17:36 |
| AlanBell | appearance section of control centre would be a good place to put settings, but there isn't really a unity section | 17:36 |
| AlanBell | there is the zoom stuff in the accessibility section that needs to be ripped out or changed to turn on enhanced zoom because it is looking for gnome shell magnifier | 17:37 |
| dwatkins | is MyUnity supposed to be one config tool to bind them all, or just specific to Unity's GUI settings? | 17:38 |
| AlanBell | specific to the bits of unity they bother to add settings for | 17:39 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| AlanBell | it doesn't read the XML file that lets unity declare its settings | 17:39 |
| dwatkins | oh | 17:39 |
| AlanBell | most of the source is stuff like "if os == "Ubuntu 11.04" then . . . else . . ." | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | automatix all over again? | 17:40 |
| dwatkins | it has hard-coded values? | 17:41 |
| * dwatkins looks at the calendar | 17:41 | |
| gord | the unity settings are mostly dev tools | 17:41 |
| gord | it shouldn't just expose everything | 17:41 |
| dwatkins | has that sort of thing not been considered a Bad Idea for a couple decades? | 17:41 |
| AlanBell | dwatkins: yes, I don't get the wild support for myunity over ccsm | 17:42 |
| dwatkins | I'm really starting to wonder if there's any 'unity' amongst the developers, to be honest, shouldn't there be a single mechanism for applications to present their configuration data and have it modified? | 17:44 |
| dwatkins | I used to think things were moving towards having an XML file for configuration data in the home directory or a specific location in /etc for each application or service which made this accessible. | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | there is gconf-editor | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | and ccsm for compiz plugins | 17:45 |
| ali1234 | and dconf-editor as well now | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | ccsm deals with more datatypes | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | isn't dconf-editor the deprecated one? | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | gconf is old | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | as in, has existed forever | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dconf is new but only has 3 config keys in it | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe 4 | 17:46 |
| dwatkins | Why do we need a new configuration tool? | 17:46 |
| AlanBell | so is gsettings not the new hotness? | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: I think so | 17:47 |
| AlanBell | or does gsettings go with dconf-editor not gconf-editor? | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dconf-gsettings-backend - simple configuration storage system - GSettings back-end | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Does that answer your question? :) | 17:47 |
| AlanBell | so what was the old one? dsettings? | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: Gnome2 had gconf/gconf-editor | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: I have no idea where dconf fits | 17:48 |
| MartijnVdS | and gsettings -> same | 17:48 |
| gord | gnome 3 has gsettings and dconf is the gsettings backend that it uses, thus dconf editor is used to edit it from a user perspective | 17:49 |
| gord | you can also have other backends if you choose | 17:49 |
| MartijnVdS | then why are there only 4 items in dconf-editor? | 17:50 |
| gord | because those are the root nodes? expand them? | 17:50 |
| AlanBell | MartijnVdS: I have lots of things in dconf-editor | 17:50 |
| AlanBell | it doesn't seem very sophisticated, not many datatypes | 17:51 |
| MartijnVdS | what kind of datatype do you need? | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | well "color" would be one | 17:52 |
| gord | AlanBell, look up gvariant | 17:52 |
| gord | it uses gvariant as its "datatype" which is quite sophisticated | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | keybinding would be another | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I mean in the UI | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | there is no widget for setting them nicely | 17:53 |
| AlanBell | so keybindings are just strings like "<Control><Alt>Delete" | 17:54 |
| AlanBell | and you can type invalid stuff in like "<foo><wibble>Delete" | 17:55 |
| AlanBell | even though this keyboard doesn't have a wibble meta key | 17:55 |
| gord | no... its dconf editor, not gnome-control-centre | 17:56 |
| AlanBell | yeah, so exposing user tweakable features means hacking the UI of gnome-control-centre | 17:57 |
| AlanBell | and supplying your own widgets to adjust the settings | 17:58 |
| * AlanBell thinks gnome-control centre should be replaced by ccsm | 18:38 | |
| === tubadaz__ is now known as tubadaz | ||
| directhex | ikonia, have you assessed ubuntu cola? | 19:38 |
| popey | evening | 19:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Jeez - My twitter stream is full of Apple fan bois | 19:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And there's nothing decent on TV either.... | 19:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Bored. Haz beer & chocolate in fridge though | 19:54 |
| brobostigon | i found a new game called minetest, it is like minecraft, but actually runs on my eeepc, so i might have a play of that. | 19:55 |
| Azelphur | looks kinda cool :) | 20:00 |
| brobostigon | it is yes, takes some getting used to. | 20:00 |
| popey | woop woop! | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: woop? | 20:38 |
| * DJones gives half a woop to painkillers & wine | 20:39 | |
| popey | Had the go-ahead to attend UDS | 20:39 |
| popey | which is excellent | 20:39 |
| DJones | Congrats popey | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 20:40 |
| AlanBell | that is woop worthy | 20:40 |
| gordonjcp | popey: \o/ | 20:40 |
| popey | Attending as a community person too, so can attend some sessions of my choice ☺ | 20:41 |
| MartijnVdS | not as a canonicalite? | 20:41 |
| popey | mon-tues as a canonicalite, wed-fri as a community person | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | interesting arrangement | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | so are the community sponsorship notifications going out now? | 20:42 |
| popey | well, i am at a sprint the week before | 20:42 |
| popey | i am only "supposed" to be there mon-tues | 20:43 |
| popey | decided to stay on, on my own time | 20:43 |
| MartijnVdS | .. to sing on All-Stars night | 20:52 |
| popey | :D | 20:52 |
| popey | maaaybe | 20:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Hm, it conflicts with http://www.nerinapallot.com/shop2/?productDetails.cfm?Basket=1@,&ProductID=1653 | 20:54 |
| MartijnVdS | which I'm already going to | 20:54 |
| * bigcalm_lappy is 4 inches away from Adam Sweet - any requests? | 21:24 | |
| gordonjcp | bigcalm_lappy: ask him where his gong is | 21:26 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm: ask him for the number of the 419 scammer so you can call them ;) (just looked up his last blog entry) | 21:37 |
| MartijnVdS | woo. Collectd on WRT54 pokes collectd on VPS | 22:04 |
| MartijnVdS | Tomorrow: write code to parse temp/pressure/light readings and put them in collectd | 22:04 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu Forums and Ask Ubuntu - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/07/ubuntu-forums-and-askubuntu/ | 22:18 |
| mattt | MartijnVdS: you like collectd? | 22:28 |
| mattt | MartijnVdS: was looking at it, but i can't install the agent on my hosts, so i'm limited to snmp | 22:29 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| proscreens | hi | 23:33 |
| proscreens | hello | 23:35 |
| proscreens | is this working | 23:35 |
| proscreens | hi | 23:36 |
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