[00:00] <JJasonClark> Phosphate: done. buying it now.  Thanks a bunch. I really need something that I can read offline and mark up with notes.
[00:00] <jaeckel> hi
[00:01] <Phosphate> jjasonClark Cool I don't think you'll be disappointed.
[00:01] <CFHowlett> jaeckel   greetings
[00:01] <pfifo> hiya
[00:01] <roasted> hello! could use some serious help with triple screening on ubuntu and nvidia. Tons of issues...
[00:01] <jaeckel> I'm experiencing problems with irssi and scripts on natty
[00:02] <jaeckel> and google hasn't found any hint yet
[00:02] <Kimlaroux> pfifo, thanks, the grub install allowed me to install Grub to Ubuntu's partition. Now all I need is upgrade this kernel and see if I loose my Grub menu =)
[00:03] <jaeckel> can someone help me with this issue?
[00:03] <pfifo> I want an updated copy of Unix Network Programming by Richard W Stevens
[00:04] <JackDacks> Alis is not working alright is it? I never get a reply from it. Command I am trying to send: /msg alis LIST * -min 50
[00:04] <nubcake> is it normal to have constant outgoing traffic ~9-50kbit/s ? (running an apache [no users connected]) mysql and php on ubuntu server 11.10
[00:04] <pfifo> JackDacks, it might have come into a different window, alis is working fine for me
[00:05] <JackDacks> I'll try pfifo
[00:06] <JackDacks> Works indeed pfifo
[00:06] <PeoplesAdvocate> Quick question, I copied a iso file to USB by using the dd command to make it bootable. How do I restore the USB for normal use. I tried gparted but says no partition table on device and to create one but it wont.
[00:06] <pfifo> nubcake, no
[00:07] <Phosphate> nubcake unless you're getting updates? Is this sustained over a fairly long period of time?
[00:07] <pfifo> PeoplesAdvocate, use fdisk from the cli
[00:07] <pfifo> PeoplesAdvocate, or make gparted create a partition table
[00:08] <PeoplesAdvocate> pfifo: I tried it with gparted but it failed
[00:08] <[tla]> pfifo: text console font is now really small but still no X desktop. Xorg.0.log here: http://paste2.org/p/1929628
[00:08] <nubcake> Phosphate: i'm not getting updates, i've watched this for about 2 hours and it didnt drop, also netstat -n tells me there are 9 active connections to some chinese ip belonging to "Beijing HS-NET Technology CO.,Ltd"
[00:08] <pfifo> PeoplesAdvocate, yeah, fall back to fdisk
[00:08] <KI7MT> PeoplesAdvocate, is it being recognized when you plug it in, if so, there should be a USB icon on the desktop, just right-click and select format.
[00:09] <nubcake> woops.. seems my net dropped...
[00:09] <pfifo> [tla], can you `startx` manually as either user or root?
[00:09] <Phosphate> nubcake yeah thats pretty much bad news. Id think about a wipe & reinstall unless you have some good chineese brohams...
[00:09] <PeoplesAdvocate> no format option on right click, will try fdisk and see what happens.
[00:10] <KI7MT> PeoplesAdvocate, that's was my next suggestion :-)
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> Are there any third-party repos offering a new (and fixed) version of ia32libs? I need it ASAP... :)
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> already filed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/821100/
[00:10] <nubcake> Phosphate: is there any way to block this ip for now until i got my backups done ?
[00:12] <Phosphate> nubcake can you block it at your router? It sounds like you've been rooted so you really can't trust that machine.
[00:12] <nubcake> so the best to do would be to unplug the lan cable i guess ?
[00:13] <[tla]> pfifo: no, startx is not installed.  gdm-binary is running (from boot)
[00:13] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: You can install Mobloquer, blocks IP. Also FireStarter would do the trick assuming it doesn't have quick anti-block measures... :O
[00:13] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: Did you run Wireshark and see what's going on the network? Not many Ubuntu boxes get rooted (afaik?) :/
[00:13] <pfifo> [tla], startx is part of xinit and needs xauth, `sudo apt-get install xinit xauth`
[00:14] <nubcake> not yet, since i'm not really familiar with wireshark
[00:14] <T_H_X> ufw
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> ufw would work too
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> :)
[00:14] <ThreeOfEight> Hallo, I have a Digitus Wireless 150N USB adapter with a RT8188CUS chip on a fresh amd63 10.10. Driver is installed out of the box, I can scan. But connection to the network only works very rarely, and when it does, I mostly get "Destination host unreachable." Only very rarely do I actually get a package through. It works fine on my other laptop with x86 10.04.
[00:14] <ThreeOfEight> *amd64, of course
[00:15] <Phosphate> nubcake I'd grab what data you need then rebuild it. Fixing something where someone has gotten root is pretty tough. You could also try killing apache and see if your traffic drops, maybe its only apache thats been comprimised.
[00:16] <L3top> nubcake: iptables -A INPUT -s ipaddy -j DROP   where ipaddy is the ipaddress
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: Would be interesting to study how the attack took place as well. :P
[00:16] <urgodfather> hello all
[00:16] <Phosphate> But I'd still rebuild it when you can it's hard to know whats been done to your machine.
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: Might just happen again
[00:16] <urgodfather> i have two problems if someone can help
[00:16] <nubcake> L3top: thanks i'll try that (killed apache but traffic is still the same)
[00:16] <urgodfather> firstly, i cant get the SHIFT key to work
[00:16] <[tla]> pfifo: xinit starts and i get plain xterm.  no window manager etc.
[00:16] <Chipzzz> nubcake: if it were me, i'd go with the wireshark idea... i'd be curious what the network traffic looks like
[00:16] <Phosphate> Gaming4jc Honeypot?
[00:17] <urgodfather> secondly, i cannot detect my sata 0 drive
[00:17] <L3top> iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d ipaddy  -j DROP   to drop outgoing as well.
[00:17] <nubcake> Chipzzz: well i dont really know how to use wireshark from the shell..
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: Is the IP actually malicious?  e.g. run it through TrustedSource.org (Mcaffe) or on google. might be in a blacklisyt
[00:17] <Chipzzz> nubcake: it's pretty intuitive & only takes a minute to set up
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> blacklist*
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: Not so much honeypot as just checking most recently modified files, although that's not a bad idea either. :)
[00:18] <L3top> iptables -L to view
[00:18] <pfifo> [tla], the your problem isnt X at all, its gdm/lightdm what version of ubuntu are you using again?
[00:18] <nubcake> oh wow.. i'm getting an iptables error when trying the 1st insert
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: tcpdump works from shell
[00:18] <[tla]> pfifo: 11.10 but it has been upgraded over time from somewhere around Hardy
[00:18] <L3top> iptables -L
[00:18] <Chipzzz> nubcake: it also lets you log the traffic & save it to a file so you can inspect it later if you want
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> save it to a pcap, then download on another box to examine
[00:18] <PeoplesAdvocate> Okay, my USB is fixed. I used cfdisk though.
[00:18] <pfifo> [tla], what version were you coming from?
[00:19] <PeoplesAdvocate> Thanks guys, didnt even think of using these tools.
[00:19] <L3top> nubcake: you should listen to the others... I was just giving you the quick and dirty "stop this now"
[00:19] <[tla]> pfifo: been on 11.10 for a while with desktop OK.  recent dist-upgrade seemed to b0rk it
[00:19] <nubcake> iptables -L http://pastebin.com/bicZQpH7
[00:19] <pfifo> [tla], are you using gdm or lightdm?
[00:19] <[tla]> pfifo: originally server had no desktop installed as was headless
[00:20] <L3top> nubcake: however it is not seeming to follow the idea of quick...
[00:20] <spartan2276> Is there any other backup tool I can use besides deja-dup as it wont work on my system
[00:20] <lubi> my lubuntu wont log in after installation
[00:20] <pfifo> !backup | spartan2276
[00:21] <[tla]> pfifo: was using gdm but dont care really - will use whatever is current
[00:21] <L3top> spartan2276: I strongly recommend clonezilla
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: http://www.openmaniak.com/tcpdump.php might help
[00:21] <Phosphate> nubcake, these guys are all giving you good advice. The core problem is if you got hit by some script kidde you might be able to fix it if you got hit by someone who knows what they're doing you probably can't fix it and anything you do on that machine you can't 100% trust.
[00:21] <spartan2276> pfifo: deja-dup makes my systems settings panel loop and then crash the system
[00:21]  * L3top agrees with Phosphate nubcake...
[00:21] <pfifo> spartan2276, im sorry to hear that
[00:22] <lubi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936681
[00:22] <pfifo> [tla], try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop` see if it exists and works
[00:22] <spartan2276> pfifo: the thing is this was not happening before, I tried purging deja-dup and re-installing it but nothing
[00:22] <Gaming4JC> it is odd IPTables wouldn't be working
[00:23] <Phosphate> Gaming4jc unless the kernel was modded
[00:23] <[tla]> pfifo: yes it works (and suggests i use upstart - ie stop gdm)
[00:23] <nubcake> the address is 119.80.39.56 and my box seems to connect to the ports "45858,44463,40453,40676,44338,446699,40538,45624 and 40845 i dont know if that helps with anything but for now i think i'll back up my data..
[00:23] <spartan2276> nubcake: you got hacked on Ubuntu?
[00:23] <pfifo> [tla], try starting it now, see what happens
[00:24] <nubcake> spartan2276: i dont know.. but it kinda seems like
[00:24] <grid_bug> is there any reason that I get "Connection Refused" when I attempt to connect to by ubuntu box via bluetooth?
[00:24] <pfifo> nubcake, there are some rootkit detectors available
[00:24] <KI7MT> Is this a remote server or local box ?
[00:25] <L3top> connect what grid_bug
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: Definately interested in this. http://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/ip/default.aspx?ip=119.80.39.56 :)
[00:25] <Phosphate> nubcake just curious, did you have ssh exposed to the internet?
[00:25] <n0sq> how do i set port address and irq for a usb to serial port cable (i.e. ttyUSB0) - setserial keeps giving me an error message with setserial /dev/ttyUSB0 port 0x###
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: Chines haxor got your box, or at least one using a Chinese server for relaying (whatever?) is on the network
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> tcpdump would be nice
[00:26] <nubcake> can i dump into a file using >  ?
[00:26] <nubcake> or is there a better way to get the dump saved instead of going to stdout ?
[00:26] <[tla]> pfifo: screen flashes on start then returns to plain xterm / no wm.  dmesg says: [ 1232.911973] gdm-simple-slav[3277]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f668d01d1e5 sp 00007fffef1b1a70 error 4 in libnss_compat-2.13.so[7f668d019000+8000]
[00:26] <grid_bug> L3top: using RFCOMM, I've attempted to connect to the ubuntu box both from an android phone.
[00:27] <[tla]> pfifo: :s
[00:27] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: you can do tcpdump -w capture.log
[00:27] <pfifo> [tla], what wm are you using?
[00:27] <grid_bug> L3top: I'm running the same code that I've run on archlinux with no issues ( A slightly modified version of the pybluez sample code)
[00:27] <[tla]> pfifo: gdm afaik
[00:28] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: ok, so how long am i supposed to wait before killing the dump process ? ^^
[00:28] <Chipzzz> nubcake: your site pings but refuses an http request
[00:28] <pfifo> [tla], no the window manager gnome/xfce/lxdm
[00:28] <jake__> Hey, I have an absolute rookie question regarding IRC
[00:28] <nubcake> Chipzzz: i stopped apache
[00:29] <Chipzzz> did the traffic stop?
[00:29] <nubcake> nope
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: 10 min at least, need to capture the transmision
[00:29] <[tla]> pfifo: not sure but i guess whatever the standard one is.  it has a panel that slides in/out on the left with pinned apps and app launcher etc
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> otherwise we have incomplete capture :p
[00:29] <nubcake> okay
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> won't make any sense with just 10 packets for example... if it's on those high-range ports it could be a spam zombie
[00:30] <Chipzzz> nubcake: you have 15 open ports
[00:30] <pfifo> [tla], can you pastebin the files ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc if they exist
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> but we won't know until the log
[00:30] <[tla]> pfifo: i guess gnome.  i know it is not xfce (have used that elsewhere).  not used lxdm afaik
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: none of gnome, xfce or lxdm are window managers
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> !ask ||jake__
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> !ask |jake__
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> ubottu :(
[00:31] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, can you help with the issue?
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> ah just a bit of latency :)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> [tla]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:32] <nubcake> 8 minutes to go ^^
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: sounds good :)
[00:32] <[tla]> pfifo: neither file exists
[00:32] <Phosphate> Gaming4JC/nubcake I'd love a copy of that
[00:32] <[tla]> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[00:32] <Chipzzz> nubcake: do you have iftop installed?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> [tla]: have you tested your rAM health from the memtest in grub?
[00:33] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna: i made what you did but every time i install the grub it delete the BOOTMGR windows file
[00:33] <[tla]> ActionParsnip: no but the server seems to be running fine and the BIOS RAM test completes OK on boot
[00:34] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, not sure I understand you, the windows command had windows boot right?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> [tla]: its not as thorough as the memtest app, even a 10 min test will show issues. If you see red then the RAM is bad somewhere
[00:35] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  i installed the windows boot from the windows command and installed the grub and when i re-enter the windows again it give me this error BOOTMGR is missing
[00:35] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: you can use http://www.qfpost.com/upload2/upload_form.html or some other place to upload your pcap btw
[00:35] <Gaming4JC> I think qfpost accepts any file format tho
[00:35] <Gaming4JC> :)
[00:35] <nubcake> seems ssh is causing the traffic, since if i disable the ssh port(incoming) in my router, traffic drops down to 2kbit/s ..
[00:35] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: will do
[00:35] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, did you see if windows booted before you reinstalled grub?
[00:35] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  i tried more than one time installing the windows boot manager and checking on windows it works fine but when i  install the grub it give me the same error
[00:36] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna: yes i did i repeated the same scenario more than one time
[00:36] <pfifo> [tla], try updating your system, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:36] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: if they have ssh the traffic will be encrypted... :|
[00:36] <nubcake> :(
[00:36] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, have you rub sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[00:36] <Phosphate> ^ bummer
[00:36] <Fyodorovna> run
[00:36] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  it didn;t want to do that on the live cd
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> I don't understand why a hacker would want ssh on the machine though, most hackers just use you to send spammy e-mails....
[00:37] <[tla]> pfifo: updated these: apt apt-utils libapt-inst1.3 libapt-pkg4.11
[00:37] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, you would never run it there only in the ubuntu install
[00:37] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  but when i came back to the installed version now and ran the command the command ran well
[00:37] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  it won't help me now because i have to repeat the same scenario again because the windows BOOTMGR is missing
[00:38] <Chipzzz> nubcake: is there much disk access (as if they're mining your drives for something interesting)?
[00:38] <pfifo> [tla], try 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm` then start gdm once again
[00:38] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, run the bootscript again do you need a link?
[00:38] <Phosphate> nubcake what is your network setup? You have ssh explicitly forwarded to that machine or is it directly on the the Internet?
[00:38] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  and after installing the windows boot i have to reinstall the grub and the grub miss the windows boot manager
[00:38] <Sifrazooy> no i have it
[00:38] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, right run the script
[00:38] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: I hadn't thought of checking that, but I was about to ask if there was anything confidential on the drive, lol
[00:38] <nubcake> Phosphate: stupidly it is directly on the internet
[00:38] <Chipzzz> lol
[00:39] <rhizmoe> is transmission/qtransmission annoying for anybody else?
[00:39] <rhizmoe> sorry, that question sucks, but it's burning in my brain.
[00:39] <[tla]> pfifo dmesg has: [ 2069.255222] gdm-simple-slav[4970]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f0cae0691e5 sp 00007fff0f921fb0 error 4 in libnss_compat-2.13.so[7f0cae065000+8000]
[00:39] <Phosphate> nubcake ah ok do you have a l/p that might concievable be guessable?
[00:39] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: being directly connected to the internet with ssh isn't a problem with a strong password or private key
[00:40] <nubcake> Chipzzz: uhm.. i dont really know if theres a lot of disk access.. the led blinks every now and then.. but i didnt check software-wise
[00:40] <KI7MT> Ouch, you should always set allow from IP and only allow with keys.
[00:40] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: the only two reasons for them to be there is 1) to run a bot or 2) to look for data... there is only the one connection, so it isn
[00:40] <Chipzzz> isn't for a bot network
[00:40] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC exactly what I was wondering
[00:40] <nubcake> well my password is about 15chars upper_lower&numeric
[00:40] <Gaming4JC> chinese miners, scary stuff... o_o
[00:40] <[tla]> pfifo: looks like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ugr-seeds/+bug/805744
[00:40] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: so is mine. :P
[00:41] <Gaming4JC> hopefully they didn't use a new xploit.
[00:41] <Gaming4JC> otherwise we're all at risk, head for teh hills... !!  D:
[00:41] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, you had mucked around with grub 2 originally and put a custom windows entry in the wrong place we may just need to clean that up the bootscript will let us know what is up.
[00:41] <will> hey guys. i've got a lot of old defunct wine installed programs showing up when i search for things. where are they kept so i can clear them out?
[00:41] <Phosphate> nubcake so probably wasnt guessed, they must have come in through something else then rooted to get ssh access
[00:41] <Gaming4JC> yeah xploited a vunerable service most likely
[00:41] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC what do you tink?
[00:41] <Phosphate> k
[00:42] <CFHowlett> Fyodorovna   maybe I can help.  Ignore the OSX stuff but see the boot configuration ...
[00:42] <CFHowlett> http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=212837&st=0#entry1427797
[00:42] <Gaming4JC> Well, what version of apache was it?
[00:42] <Chipzzz> I nmapped the ip and there are 15 open ports on the machine
[00:42] <Gaming4JC> I really dunno how they'd get a shell on it with root access without some effort
[00:42] <Darck> any one know a  good RADIUS client test tool..??
[00:42] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna: http://pastebin.com/e6dPMDWS
[00:42] <Gaming4JC> even if they got a shell it'd be limited to user
[00:42] <Phosphate> Yeah thats why I'm thinking it wasnt just a bot attack
[00:43] <Phosphate> In any case he's almost certainly been rooted
[00:43] <nubcake> apache 2.2.20
[00:43] <pfifo> [tla], ok maybe switching to lightdm will work better with unity. `sudo apt-get purge gdm && sudo apt-get install ldm`
[00:43] <Darck> anyone ????
[00:43] <Guest215> How do I access a windows xp printer from linux using cups?  the computer is \\192.168.29.149 with shared printer.
[00:43] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: I think it's a pretty good bet, too
[00:43] <Darck> some help here  ?
[00:43] <Phosphate> nubcake did you have root login enabled on sshd?
[00:43] <pfifo> [tla], after it completes reboot
[00:43] <[tla]> pfifo: interesting the bug mentions autologin - i was using that as system is a media server
[00:44] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  is there any way that i could remove this grub and re install it again
[00:44] <Gaming4JC> !patience Darck
[00:44] <CFHowlett> Guest215   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[00:44] <nubcake> Phosphate: nope, just through sudo once logged in successfully
[00:44] <nubcake> but not directly
[00:44] <Gaming4JC> !patience | Darck
[00:44] <Gaming4JC> some one will know the answer for sure in time :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest215: the printer dialogue has the option to add a windows printer. It's in the cog menu in the top right of the screen
[00:45] <nubcake> oh... i almost forgot about the dump :D
[00:45] <Darck> hoo thanks..
[00:45] <nubcake> gimme a second
[00:45] <pfifo> [tla], the bug report is about gdm, so using an alternate display manager should be a workaround
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !info  yardradius
[00:45] <Phosphate> nubcake then Id have a hard time thinking of some scenario where you're not pretty humped.
[00:45] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: should be very interesting :D
[00:45] <Darck> any one know a  good RADIUS client test tool..??
[00:45] <nubcake> wow.. the content looks pretty weird through cat
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Darck: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/radtest.1.html
[00:45] <Gaming4JC> Darck: yardradius
[00:46] <Gaming4JC> actionparsnip ^^
[00:46] <Gaming4JC> :)
[00:46] <Phosphate> I'd definitely like a copy of that dump :)
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Darck: all I did was search....
[00:46] <[tla]> pfifo: crazy: stop gdm; rm /etc/gdm/custom.conf; start gdm - fixes it!
[00:46] <Guest215> ActionParsnip: cog menu?
[00:47] <pfifo> [tla], congrats your the only person I known to have sucessfully updated this much
[00:47] <Guest215> oh,I'm using linux mint 12,sorry
[00:47] <nubcake> how do i read the file? :D all i see is special characters and stuff...
[00:48] <KI7MT> its prob encrypted with ssh
[00:48] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, the script looks perfect except for this According to the info in the boot sector, sda5 starts   at sector 2048. Personally I would suggest going to the ubuntu forums, windows should be booting.
[00:48] <Phosphate> ^
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest215: in the top right of the screen, or you can run: system-config-printer
[00:48] <dommer> I still can't get my USB mic to work in skype nor teamspeak 3
[00:48] <spitzi> Hi. So it's like this: my remote Ubuntu has my session running with open windows such as Chrome and Firefox. I can do "ssh -X" to my remote session. Can I someone "open" it on my local Ubuntu, as if that session ran a VNC server and I'm the VNC client ? thanks/
[00:48] <icarious> Hello all
[00:48] <dommer> what do
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest215: mint isnt supported here
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> !mint | Guest215
[00:49] <[tla]> pfifo: thanks for all your help. awesome :D
[00:49] <KI7MT> all the mint guys come here, there's never anyone is the mint channel :-)
[00:49] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, with a windows extended I'm not sure although it worked before but the sda5 showing this may be the problem
[00:49] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: you mean Darck should have just http://lmddgtfy.net/?q=RADIUS+ubuntu+client ;)
[00:49] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  it boot to windows but the problem is that windows BOOTMGR  get lost every time i install grub :S
[00:49] <nubcake> do i pm the link, or am i allowed to paste it in here ?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> KI7MT: still not supported here, we do tell them :)
[00:50] <KI7MT> paste it here, others are probably wanting to help too
[00:50] <Phosphate> nubcake pastebin would work
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> nubcake: use a pastebin
[00:50] <nubcake> its about 3.89mb
[00:50] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: you can paste it here, but the channel is logged. So depends on who you want to see the pcap
[00:50] <Phosphate> definitely pastebin
[00:50] <KI7MT> ActionParsnip, I know, it's just funny how they dont support their product, yet everyone says its great.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> nubcake: pastebin is limitless, or has a very large limit
[00:51] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: you can pastebin a tcpdump? Messy...
[00:51] <Gaming4JC> rather have a .pcap
[00:51] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  i am thinking of giving it another try after running grub-update
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> KI7MT: exactly, i'd rather have a good community for the distro I use
[00:51] <pfifo> then `pastebinit /dev/urandom`
[00:51] <KI7MT> Same here.
[00:51] <nubcake> if i knew how to make it pcap, i would do that one too ^^
[00:51] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC I think so but if it's encrypted it probably worthless anyway
[00:51] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  after i ran grub-update **
[00:52] <Darck> I have ]found a radtest
[00:52] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, it says that but the files sre in the sda2 partition it may be the the pbr is damaged but the commands I gave you should have rebuilt that. Windows has a archaic boot set up that is temperamental and can just have problems. I would suspect this can be fixed, or just reload the windows bootloader in the mbr and use easybcd. The ubuntu forums though has the people I learned all this from.
[00:52] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: he killed ssh though, might be something useful
[00:52] <Chipzzz> nubcake: I see no unpatched vulnerabilities other than a DoS that would not facilitate what we're seeing here in apache 2.2.20...
[00:52] <Fyodorovna> *are
[00:52] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC oh yeah I forgot about that, good point
[00:52] <nofx30> hello
[00:52] <XxxTilllYxxX> hi
[00:52] <Darck> a simple tool  for a radius test
[00:52] <CFHowlett> nofx30   greetings
[00:52] <Chipzzz> nubcake: were you running a CMS?
[00:52] <XxxTilllYxxX> how can i join a channel?
[00:52] <CFHowlett> XxxTilllYxxX   greetings
[00:52] <Gaming4JC> !welcome | nofx30
[00:53] <pfifo> hiya
[00:53] <nubcake> Chipzzz nope
[00:53] <CFHowlett> XxxTilllYxxX   /join #channel
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> XxxTilllYxxX: /join #name
[00:53] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  lol THNX :d i will try to ran the startup recovery and install the grub again
[00:53] <Darck> i want know if there is any tool of the type for windows
[00:53] <nubcake> i tried to copy the text to pastebin.. but if i select all, copy and paste, it outputs only 3 special characters...
[00:53] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, I recognize that this is frustrating bnut your way better then you were at this point. Windows would not have booted as it was even as it was with the MS bootloader in the mbr.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Darck: this is ubuntu support. Windows support is in ##windows
[00:53] <Fyodorovna> but*
[00:53] <dommer> Can someone help me?  I have a logitech C210 webcam that I use primarily for a mic.  It won't work in teamspeak 3 nor skype.  WTF
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Darck: why did you ask here for Windows support, it makes no sense....
[00:53] <Chipzzz> nubcake: it probably gets to the first "\0" and stops
[00:54] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: might be best to upload the file some place :/
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> dommer: does the mic work in sound recorder?
[00:54] <dommer> no
[00:54] <Darck> soy my mistake
[00:54] <CFHowlett> dommer   spent hours on this last week.  No joy.  Suggest a newer camera.
[00:54] <Darck> sorry
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> dommer: is it muted in alsamixer?
[00:54] <dommer> The camera's fine
[00:54] <jb0nd38372> If I have 3 hard drives in my system, one of which is an SSD, and I have installed Kbuntu to that SSD; How can I put my home directory on another drive. The SSD is 128 gig and I'd rather have my apps (games and other stuff) on a platter drive.
[00:54] <nubcake> okay.. i think i'll just pm you guys the link if thats ok for you
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> dommer: is the mic marked as the input device in sound properties?
[00:54] <jb0nd38372> err Ubuntu \
[00:55] <Phosphate> nubcake thanks yeah that works
[00:55] <dommer> I.don't.know.
[00:55] <pfifo> jb0nd38372, normally one would do that during th install
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> dommer: well....go check
[00:55] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, you can always just reinstall windows as well, into a pre-formatted ntfs  and avoid the boot partition if your not running the windows encryption.
[00:55] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  i made a startup recovery once of the times i tried and it installed the windwos boot and i started windows smoothly after it
[00:55] <dommer> and how?
[00:55] <sianhulo> ppl, is there a way of restoring winecfg without erasing .wine?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> dommer: in a terminal, run:  alsamixer
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> dommer: use M to un/mute  up and down to change levels and ESC to exit
[00:56] <Chipzzz> nubcake: i'm more interested in how they got in than what data looks like... were you running anything on apache that could have been vulnerable?
[00:56] <jb0nd38372> pfifo: If I reinstall, is there a way I can do a "soft raid" so the other 2 platter drives are seen as a single drive and then have my ssd as the wtwo drives?
[00:56] <dommer>  < Master >Master M Headphon Headphon   PCM      Line   Line Jac    CD
[00:56] <nofx30> i was wondering if someone could help me get a virtual copy of mac osx to run on my linux machine
[00:56] <dommer> no input
[00:57] <Real> sup mothas!!!!
[00:57] <pfifo> jb0nd38372, yes, but you have to use the alternate installer instead of the normal desktop iso
[00:57] <CFHowlett> nofx30   osx won't run virtually sfaik
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> dommer: Can you give the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:57] <Roasted_> Has anybody set up triple monitors before? I'm using two graphics cards (Nvidia) and trying to get 2 monitors working.
[00:57] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, once you put grub in that sda1 you were screwed, it showed nnoe of the ms boot still there so if a recovery worked it had to be before grub-legacy was lut in the sda1
[00:58] <che687> roasted_: if you are running ati cards you have to be careful of driver selection
[00:58] <jb0nd38372> pfifo: Ok thanks... one last question, i'm not good with manually partitioning... will the ssd be defined as "/" with a swap partition and my platter drive9s) be partitioned as "/home"?
[00:58] <dommer> Odd though, I have a capture device....
[00:58] <Phosphate> nubcake so you have 8080 open still
[00:58] <Roasted_> che687, as I mentioned I'm on Nvidia.
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: at least you managed to get the file, mine is still downloading at 5/10kbps :P
[00:59] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: 8010 was open (and may still be) but I never saw 8080 open
[00:59] <pfifo> jb0nd38372, well youll need to use the platters as a LVM and then use the LVM as /home
[00:59] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC ow
[00:59] <che687> with nvida it isn't too bad...
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> dommer: can you run that command and upload to the server, it will make a URL, what is it please
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> 8080 is proxy
[00:59] <Roasted_> che687, which is why I went with Nvidia. But no dice :(
[00:59] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, in a situation like this where a lot of attempts are made you have to know what or what should not be where na in what order your fix went, I'm not sure you knew what was missing when we did the command fix on the W7 recovery cd, so you have to be careful with cause and effect.
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> might be using you for a relay
[00:59] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  now i understanded what u say ,  every time i run the grub it reinstall one on sda1 and this screw with the windows boot manager
[00:59] <nubcake> there's no portforwarding rule for those in my router
[00:59] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: yes, but i ran nmap & it did not show an open 8080
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> might be in IPTables though
[01:00] <jb0nd38372> pfifo: ok thank you, I have an alt machine i can use google if i get stuck, ty for the help
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> oh?
[01:00] <nubcake> neither 8080 nor 8010
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> odd...
[01:00]  * Gaming4JC is still waiting for the capture to download -.-
[01:00] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, I don't see any grub in sda1 now though.
[01:00] <Phosphate> ok do you have windows machines on the same local network?
[01:00] <nubcake> i dont know if my iptables works ^^ it gives me some error when trying stuff
[01:00] <waxstone> nubcake: was this public server or personal computer?
[01:01] <che687> you have to EXPORT DEVICE 1:2 to get the third.... but make sure you have them properly defined in xconfig
[01:01] <Guest215> thanks
[01:01] <nubcake> personal computer
[01:01] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: was it online often?
[01:01] <KI7MT> Oh, I thought this was a public server
[01:01] <Roasted_> che687, can this not be done through nvidia-settings?
[01:01] <che687> i know i have syntax wrong... but you can look it up
[01:01] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: almost 24/7
[01:01] <Gaming4JC> k
[01:01] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  but there is something listed in the grub configuration file that screw with sda1 and don;t install the boot
[01:01] <che687> no... nvida dose not have gui tools to do this
[01:01] <Phosphate> nubcake do you have Windows machines behind this box?
[01:01] <sianhulo> well i will ask aagain and add another question... is there a way of restoring the configuration of wine without erasing ".wine"?i want to know which model my videocard is, anybody knows what was it?(i barely remember a "grep" and a "vga"). thanks befirehand
[01:01] <nubcake> Phosphate: yes 3 different ones
[01:02] <Phosphate> ah ok that may be your problem
[01:02] <waxstone> nubcake: and you are behind a router? Do you do web development work? why local apache server?
[01:02] <KI7MT> sianhulo, probably best to ask in #winehq
[01:02] <Chipzzz> nubcake: pastebin of nmap: http://paste.ubuntu.com/872356/
[01:02] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, nothing in the sda1 on the script though, I think it is the sda5 partition it shows it on the script as starting where the sda1 partition is
[01:03] <sianhulo> KI7MT, thanks, i'm going there(though, the other question still remains)
[01:03] <nubcake> waxstone: yes i do some web-dev stuff, but just for fun/exercise
[01:03] <jack> which role is better for a phosphate
[01:03] <che687> Roasted_: I have 3 ati cards running for some gpu number crunching and the crossfire thing screws umbuntu all up
[01:03] <Phosphate> nubcake what's your internal class C 192.168.2?
[01:03] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  anyway what should i do now ?
[01:03] <jack> fertilizer or explosive?
[01:03] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  should i try again and see what happen
[01:03] <nubcake> 192.168.2. you mean ?
[01:03] <pfifo> jack, do you ahve an ubuntu support question?
[01:03] <Phosphate> yeah 192.168.2.x
[01:03] <CFHowlett> Phosphate   take it elsehwere
[01:04] <Roasted_> che687, sigh. I wish I hadn't gotten this card now.
[01:04] <nubcake> yea its 192.168.2.x
[01:04] <jack> pfifo: just referring to someone's nick
[01:04] <nubcake> i'll be right back in ~ 5 minutes.. phone call incoming, sorry
[01:04] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, I would go to the ubuntu forums several mods there on daily are tyhe real experts, post the bootscript as the system is and with any changes run it again and wait fro their help.
[01:04] <Phosphate> nubcake your problem is not your ubuntu box you've got a comprimised Windows box
[01:05] <waxstone> Anyone know of a good rootkit checker? >.<
[01:05] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, make a thread at the forums, that is where I used to roost and learned all this from.:)
[01:05] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  ok , thanks for your help and effort :D , and i will do what you say
[01:05] <wolfmitchell> When I open the Unity dash, go to applications and select games, the bottom half of the screen disappears. I am currently dual screening.
[01:05] <che687> Roasted_: its not that bad.... just look up some multi monitor set ups in google... you can export as many displays as you want... just have to set up xconfig and all
[01:06] <Phosphate> nubcake it may be 192.168.2.184
[01:06] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, cool the only other person on here I see do this really well is Jordan_U  look for them for help.
[01:06] <Fyodorovna> if needed
[01:06] <Roasted_> che687, so you're actively running 3 monitors?
[01:06] <wolfmitchell> * resizes *when I open the unity dash, the bottom half of the screen disappears. Actually, it moves everything  but the unity dock.
[01:06] <Sifrazooy> Jordan_U can you help me :D
[01:06] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: but they got into his ubuntu box with ssh
[01:06] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  i will :D thnx :D
[01:06] <che687> Roasted_: I have in the past run 4... but i only use them now for # crunching
[01:07] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: most of the juicy stuff is sadly ssh'ed :(
[01:07] <Roasted_> che687, do you just manually edit xorg?
[01:07] <KI7MT> Chipzzz, yeah, that's the interesting part.
[01:07] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, cool. :)
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:07] <Phosphate> Chipzzz dont think so I think hes routing through the linux box
[01:07] <juicy> Gaming4JC: I am not sshd
[01:07] <wolfmitchell> oneiric
[01:07] <Gaming4JC> juicy: lol ..
[01:07] <wolfmitchell> ActionParsnip: oniric
[01:07] <pfifo> what is the maximum number of monitors that X supports?
[01:08] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: i hadn't thought of that... you're probably right
[01:08] <che687> Roasted_: yea... but same as ATI .. there are command line utilities for Nvida that u can use that do part of it for you ...
[01:08] <wolfmitchell> Aka 11.10
[01:08] <Roasted_> che687, I have yet to find any in my googling. :*(
[01:08] <azriel> I dont know if my problem is ubuntu or not, I'm trying to run a program i wrote but it's saying: bash: ./dist/GSAM.exe: cannot execute binary file, is this a known problem?
[01:08] <Pikkachu> is the ubuntu font supposed to work under windows too? because it doesn't say anything in http://font.ubuntu.com and as far as I know fonts are not OS-dependent. The crazy thing is that in that website the testing text box displays just fine some Unicode char, but other application does not when using Ubuntu font
[01:09] <che687> Roasted_: .... what card are you using
[01:09] <Phosphate> nubcake what's on .184? Im thinking its a windows machine?
[01:09] <nubcake> allright, back.. sorry for that
[01:09] <pfifo> azriel, hi
[01:09] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: didn't he close his port 22 and see the traffic stop, though?
[01:09] <Roasted_> che687, Nvidia GT440 and Nvidia 6200.
[01:09] <Phosphate> Chippzzz hmmm good point
[01:09] <azriel> oh hi pfifo
[01:09] <KI7MT> He shutdown apache he said, but didn't say about SSH
[01:10] <nubcake> i might have to re-check that, but i think .184 is my media receiver
[01:10] <che687> Roasted_: you have to be carfull about using different cards togeather in linux... x will do weird things
[01:10] <Phosphate> Lets try and cust off .184 and see what happens
[01:10] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: that's what I thought as well but definately pure ssh traffic :p
[01:10] <pfifo> azriel, linux doesnt support exe files
[01:10] <Phosphate> oops cut
[01:10] <nubcake> allright, 1 sec.
[01:10] <azriel> k
[01:10] <Roasted_> che687, I was told it would work. sigh...
[01:10] <azriel> nothing else i try works either
[01:10] <Roasted_> che687, this is definitely a bummer. So glad I bought this darn card.
[01:10] <Chipzzz> nubcake: have you shut down your ssh server to see what would happen?
[01:10] <azriel> i copy and pasted a hello world program to test my system
[01:11] <Phosphate> nubcake is your linux box routing for everything else on your network?
[01:11] <nubcake> Chipzzz: nope, i disabled the port-forwarding for it but didn't stop it
[01:11] <wolfmitchell> What other graphics managers are there, out of curiosity? (Eg, like X)
[01:11]  * Bsims found out how to read ext2 and ext3 drives from windows
[01:11] <KI7MT> I think he's on the Phone
[01:11] <azriel> then ran gcc -c main.c, then i used chmod +x ./main.o and ran it with ./main.o
[01:11] <Chipzzz> nubcake: ah... thank you
[01:11] <azriel> it gave me the same error
[01:11] <nubcake> Phosphate: nope, i got a little router box from my provider which i'm using
[01:12] <nubcake> to route/dns and stuff
[01:12] <pfifo> azriel, `gcc -o main main.c && ./main`
[01:12] <nubcake> now that i cut off .184 it seems there's no traffic in-/outgoing... throuhg my ubuntu box..
[01:12] <Roasted_> che687, it's a shame I can't run all 3 off my GT440. It had 3 ports, but it sounds like I can only use 2 at a time.
[01:12] <azriel> one sec
[01:12] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: cutting off that .184 may be a good call, it has a lot of UDP traffic... and does have 8080
[01:12] <che687> Roasted_:  type   "nvidia_xconfig  --help" in a shell and see what you get
[01:12] <nubcake> i'll just re-plug it to doublecheck
[01:12] <azriel> oh wow
[01:13] <azriel> thanks :D
[01:13] <che687> sorry .... nvidia-xconfig
[01:13] <che687> not _
[01:13] <pfifo> azriel, dont say I never helped you
[01:13] <azriel> :3
[01:13] <azriel> im using that colision detection you showed me before
[01:14] <nubcake> could take a little to boot up
[01:14] <KI7MT> WinDoze always does :-)
[01:14] <Phosphate> nubcake k so .184 got comprimised somehow, Gaming4jC was right it wasn't your linux box.
[01:14] <Chipzzz> nubcake: are you serving anything to your windows machines from the linux box (mysql, etc.)?
[01:15] <Fyodorovna> !windoze | KI7MT
[01:15] <KI7MT> I'll kepp that in mind thanks.
[01:15] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: still confused how the SSH is getting played into this though
[01:15] <Fyodorovna> KI7MT, lol we all want to say it. :)
[01:15] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: he removed the forwarding at the router & nothing changed
[01:16] <nubcake> Chipzzz: uhm.. what do you mean by serving? the box is running php, mysql and an apache so i can play around and code php a little.. but besides that, it's not really serving anything i use on my windows machines
[01:16] <Phosphate> Gaming4jC either he's routhing everything through his linux box or he's running routed with some settings that will act as a bounce/relay
[01:16] <hoshi411> is there any way to change the color scheme from white and orange?
[01:17] <TuxSY> Hi there! Ubuntu is Spyware!
[01:17] <hoshi411> this white scheme is blinding me
[01:17] <hoshi411> and orange is nice but....
[01:17] <hoshi411> im talking about unity here
[01:17] <hoshi411> i want to use it ... just let me change the color scheme
[01:18] <hoshi411> nautilus and xchat
[01:18] <nubcake> weird.. i rebooted the media receiver, now there's still no traffic in-/outgoing
[01:18] <hoshi411> can I change the color scheme?
[01:18] <eddie> Hello
[01:18] <hoshi411> im running ubuntu 12
[01:18] <hoshi411> untity
[01:18] <Phosphate> nubcake it may take a bit but it will most likely start again
[01:18] <eddie> I need some serious help
[01:18] <pfifo> !enter | hoshi411
[01:18] <Chipzzz> nubcake: it is common to run a server for the LAN on a linux box. Mysql is a popular one & allows a common database to be shared among all the networked machines.
[01:18] <Fyodorovna> !precise | hashi
[01:19] <Guest60120> I have both ubuntu and windows, but I need to boot into windows. How do I do this?
[01:19] <nubcake> Chipzzz: oh.. nope, not using any of that.. just using it for the web-dev stuff
[01:19] <Guest60120> Any help?
[01:19] <Phosphate> nubcake it may take time for .184 to reconnect to it's c&c server to get instructions, assuming it's the problem
[01:19] <nubcake> and i set all my boxes to use 192.168.2.1 (the router-box) as gateway, dns and dhcp
[01:20] <Guest60120> Hello
[01:20] <Phosphate> nubcake just to confirm traffic dropped when you pulled .184 down?
[01:20] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: well,  the packets coming from that media server over UDP look like a VLan server, not seeing anything out of the obvious ordinary...
[01:20] <nubcake> the weird thing is.. that media receiver has been in standby mode like for at least 1 year or more..
[01:20] <nubcake> Phosphate: yes
[01:20] <Eddie345> Hello
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest60120: did you use wubi to install Ubuntu or did you resize the NTFS to install to?
[01:21] <nubcake> before when i disabled the ssh port-forwarding, it dropped, when i enabled it again, traffic was back too
[01:21] <nubcake> when i cut off the .184 box it dropped again
[01:21] <Eddie345> Action, I put it on CD and resized,.
[01:21] <Phosphate> nubcake do you have routed running on your linux box?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Eddie345: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see Windows mentioned?
[01:22] <nubcake> Phosphate: not that i know
[01:22] <Eddie345> You know, I did that, and it booted into ubuntu like normal.
[01:22] <nubcake> how do i check that ?
[01:22] <wolfmitchell> Is there a way to make a desktop environment in Bash?
[01:22] <nubcake> route+ tab says "route, routef and routel"
[01:22] <nubcake> in terminal*
[01:23] <Phosphate> ps -eaf | grep routed
[01:23] <pfifo> wolfmitchell, your question doesnt make any sense, what are you trying todo?
[01:23] <ziglir> protato
[01:24] <nubcake> Phosphate: no result besides the grep itself
[01:24] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: Phosphate: for the paranoid, his media box may indeed have embedded malware - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513231
[01:24] <Gaming4JC> same packet type :P
[01:24] <Chipzzz> nubcake: do you have traffic at the moment?
[01:24] <pfifo> 'embeded malware'
[01:25] <nubcake> Chipzzz: nope
[01:25] <Chipzzz> hmmmm
[01:25] <nubcake> box is booted up, but in standby, just like it was when i had traffic before
[01:25] <ummagumma> hi guys
[01:25] <ericluwolf> I'm back.... Did you guys miss me?
[01:25] <Eddie345> Action, I did that in terminal and it did find windows recovery environment and windows 7 loader
[01:26] <Phosphate> Bleh Chipzzz Gaming4jC & nubcake I'm really sorry I've got family aggro and have to bail. I think .184 is hosed & routing through the linux box but thats just a guess.
[01:26] <Chipzzz> nubcake: which 'box'... the one at .184?
[01:26] <nubcake> Chipzzz: yea the .184 box
[01:26] <Gaming4JC> Phosphate: yeah, good call, ttyl :)
[01:26] <Gaming4JC> I'm still looking over the packet capture but only other data we have is UDP from .184
[01:26] <Chipzzz> Phosphate: it's looking that way... thanks for helping & have a nice night
[01:26] <Eddie345> Can anyone help me boot into windows?
[01:26] <nubcake> Phosphate: thanks for your help :)
[01:26] <Phosphate> Sorry guys & good luck will hop back on if I can to help.
[01:26] <nubcake> good night
[01:27] <pfifo> Gaming4JC, its possible his media center box is performing udp hole punching
[01:28] <nubcake> so udp hole punching is like broadcasts ?
[01:28] <Chipzzz> nubcake: i'd install wireshark & wait for it to start up again...
[01:28]  * Bsims grins I can say that intel DH67BL and intel core i5 2nd gen sandybridge work perfectly on ubuntu/windows 7
[01:28] <nubcake> Chipzzz: it's up and running right now, but no traffic on my ubuntu box
[01:28] <Gaming4JC> pfifo: possible... but how the heck does one of those get infected with chinese malware
[01:28] <Gaming4JC> lol
[01:28] <nubcake> kinda weird...
[01:29] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: keep a packet capture running on it, would be nice to see if they do anything before SSH
[01:29] <Bsims> for windows will need to install drivers, but it works flawlessly with no tweaking on ubuntu
[01:29] <Eddie345> I need help booting into windows. Can anyone help?
[01:30] <nubcake> wouldn't that capture become really huge? ^^
[01:30] <wolfmitchell> pfifo: I am trying to make a desktop environment in Bash, not dependent on X.
[01:30] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: maybe the media box was the attack vector & they leveraged it to access another service on the linux box
[01:30] <Bsims> Eddie345:  I can try? what error is it throwing
[01:30] <pfifo> nubcake, filter out the packets that you dont want
[01:30] <nubcake> oh and should i completely disable ssh, or just keep the port closed ?
[01:30] <Gaming4JC> Eddie345: You need the keyboard command to force grub to show at boot, I "think" it's Alt+Tab or Alt+Enter at boot but it's been awhile :/
[01:30] <nubcake> pfifo: if i only knew how :D
[01:30] <Gaming4JC> Eddie345: Just keep asking people the command to show grub boot menu :)
[01:30] <pfifo> wolfmitchell, what do you mean by desktop enviroment? Bash runs on the console and theres really nothing more you need
[01:31] <Eddie345> Bsims, I have no idea what I am doing. I installed ubuntu via cd and have dual boot.
[01:31] <KI7MT> nubcake, I'd change the SSH port, add aloow from IP and use keys.
[01:31] <Gaming4JC> Bsims: pretty sure there's no error, he just doesn't get grub boot. Boots directly to Ubuntu
[01:31] <Bsims> Eddie345:  ok and did you install windows first or second
[01:31] <wolfmitchell> Basically, a way to organize all the files and commands you have.
[01:31] <nubcake> KI7MT: sounds like a plan, but i'll have to get further into ssh stuff i guess :D
[01:32] <Bsims> ok ya are gonna want to boot of a ubuntu cd and reisntall grub2
[01:32] <Roasted_> Has anybody set up triple monitors before? I'm using two graphics cards (Nvidia) and trying to get 2 monitors working.
[01:32] <Eddie345> Umm, windows was already installed. Ubuntu was just installed. I went into the terminal and typed sudo update-grub
[01:32] <Bsims> when you remove grub2 tell it to remove the config files
[01:32] <Eddie345> it does mention found windows recovery environment and windows 7
[01:33] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: you can sudo nano (or your favorite editor)  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:33] <Gaming4JC> change port there
[01:33] <KI7MT> nubcake, this is based on Fedora, but it's the same, its pretty good explanation: http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/securing-ssh
[01:33] <Bsims> eddie it boots ubuntu by default right
[01:33] <pfifo> wolfmitchell, organizing file is done with mkdir and mv. all your useful commands are in /usr/bin
[01:33] <Eddie345> Yeah bsims
[01:33] <wolfmitchell> ...I mean menu-style. Reduces typing,
[01:33] <nubcake> ok, changed the port
[01:34] <Bsims> Eddie345:  sudo apt-get remove --purge grub2; sudo apt-get install grub2
[01:34] <nubcake> still no traffic so far
[01:34] <nubcake> this is driving me crazy :D
[01:34] <Bsims> Eddie345:  should wipe the config and reinstall from scratch
[01:35] <Bsims> Eddie345:  sudo apt-get remove --purge grub2; sudo apt-get install grub2
[01:35] <Eddie345> I don't understand what you mean though
[01:36] <Bsims> Eddie345:  this tells ubuntu to remove grub2 package, and the config files, and reisntall it from scratch
[01:36] <Bsims> Eddie345:  enter it into a terminal
[01:36] <jlb181> xdc
[01:36] <Eddie345> all of that?
[01:37] <Bsims> yup as typed
[01:37] <Bsims> all on one line
[01:37] <Eddie345> Ok, i'll try it now.
[01:37] <bsmith093> how do i undo the schange done by the powersave-pm tool
[01:37] <bsmith093> i already uninstalled it, but is that all
[01:38] <Eddie345> Ok, it did a  bunch a stuff
[01:38] <Roasted_> Has anybody set up triple monitors before? I'm using two graphics cards (Nvidia) and trying to get 2 monitors working.
[01:39] <Eddie345> What is supposed to happen now/
[01:40] <pfifo> !anyone | Roasted_
[01:40] <claire> What's the difference between ubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternate-i386 and ubuntu-12.04-beta1-desktop-i386?
[01:40] <Gaming4JC> heh connection lagged out.
[01:41] <pfifo> !alternate | claire
[01:41] <Eddie345> Hello
[01:41] <claire> pfifo, thanks
[01:42] <Fyodorovna> Eddie345, don't reboot while waiting if yiou ahvbe removed grub.
[01:42] <Fyodorovna> s/you/haver
[01:42] <KI7MT> claire, the type of installer basically.
[01:42] <Eddie345> Huh, fyodorovna?
[01:43] <Fyodorovna> Eddie345, you removed grub right?
[01:43] <Eddie345> I have no idea, bsims told me to write this  sudo apt-get remove --purge grub2; sudo apt-get install grub2
[01:43] <Eddie345> I am trying to boot into windows
[01:43] <Fyodorovna> Eddie345, ah did you put grub in the mbr?
[01:43] <Eddie345> in the mbr?
[01:44] <Eddie345> No, just in terminal
[01:44] <samsung> hi
[01:44] <Fyodorovna> Eddie345, you would have been asked where you want grub did you choose sda
[01:44] <Bsims> Fyodorovna:  this will nuke what he has in there, and rewrite in from scratch
[01:45] <Fyodorovna> Eddie345, the mbr is the disc letters no partition numbere for example sda or sdb..etc depending on the hd
[01:45] <Eddie345> I am sorry fyodorovna, I have no idea of what I am doing. I just want to reboot in windows. haha
[01:45] <Bsims> how many hds do you have
[01:45] <Fyodorovna> Bsims, just checking if they put grub in the mbr.
[01:46] <Fyodorovna> Bsims, your back though so carry on. :)
[01:46] <momscomputer> help.. I am trying to use my Immersion Talk Now cd with Ubuntu but it isn't working.  It is a windows cd.. I have checked in the permissions to see that allow to run as program is checked and it is but it still doesn't work...
[01:46] <Bsims> just one? and ya installed windows first
[01:46] <Eddie345> I thought switching from windows and ubuntu was a click away
[01:46] <Bsims> then install grub2 to sda1,
[01:47] <Eddie345> Bsims, what am I supposed to do now?
[01:47] <Bsims> it was for me... but sometimes it hard...
[01:47] <Bsims> did you do as I asked
[01:47] <Eddie345> Yeah, I tpyed in  sudo apt-get remove --purge grub2; sudo apt-get install grub2
[01:47] <Eddie345> in terminal
[01:48] <Chipzzz> momscomputer: have you installed wine?
[01:48] <Bsims> ok did you do a reboot
[01:48] <momscomputer> Yes
[01:48] <Eddie345> No, was that the next step?
[01:48] <Fyodorovna> Bsims, sda1 are you sure it is installled in the ubuntu already the only way you would put it in a partition is if it was aboot partition.
[01:48] <Bsims> Yup
[01:48] <momscomputer> Chipzzz yes and I restarted too
[01:48] <Bsims> reboot and let me know
[01:48] <Eddie345> Alright.
[01:48] <TuxSY> Hi there! Ubuntu is Spyware!
[01:48] <Bsims> I will be here
[01:48] <TuxSY> Hi there! Ubuntu is a Virus!
[01:48] <Chipzzz> momscomputer: did you check the compatibility list to see if Immersion Talk Now is supported?
[01:48] <itaylor57> TuxSY, ot
[01:49] <TuxSY> Hi there! Ubuntu is a steahls your Data!
[01:49] <Fyodorovna> !op |tuxsv,
[01:49] <TuxSY> www.dr-signal.com
[01:49] <momscomputer> didnt know there was a compatibility list
[01:49] <TuxSY> https://love.behrens.biz
[01:49] <pangolin> !guidelines | TuxSY
[01:50] <pangolin> TuxSY: Please message when you think you can follow the guidelines.
[01:50] <Chipzzz> momscomputer: checking it now... for future ref, it's here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:51] <momscomputer> Chipzzz    Thank you sooo much]
[01:52] <eddie_> bsims, I am back, nothing happened
[01:52] <Bsims> didn't work at akk
[01:52] <Bsims> er all
[01:53] <Bsims> how are ya booting
[01:53] <Bsims> got the live disk in?
[01:53] <pfifo> !info popularity-contest | TuxSY
[01:53] <eddie_> I mean, I booted it up and it went directly into ubuntu. Was I supposed to press a button before it boots
[01:53] <eddie_> I am booting from the computer, not the cd
[01:53] <Bsims> heh should have shown a list of installed os
[01:54] <eddie_> Was I supposed to boot from ubuntu cd?
[01:54] <Bsims> sorry eddie_ i am stumped ya did it rihght
[01:54] <Bsims> and it should have fixed it
[01:55] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: just for reference - http://drg.team-cymru.org/insight/sshpwauth.txt  That IP is listed there for brute force SSH attacks. I also see traffic from .100 to .2 then we see the actual ssh going continually to and from .100 (which is presumeably your ubuntu box?)
[01:55] <Gaming4JC> might be more than just the media box :P
[01:55] <eddie_> Thanks Bsims, i did a system recovery and it still booted into ubuntu
[01:55] <quebre> hello
[01:55] <eddie_> Is that supposed to happen?
[01:55] <Jon--> Ubuntu 11.04, Compiz + Gnome2. I want to hide the menu bar (title, close, maximize, minimize) when a window is maximized. I have a gnome-panel applet installed to save space and can remove this bar. How do I do this?
[01:56] <Bsims> but it still should have detected it
[01:56] <quebre> i want to install ubuntu from USB stick, so when i put my USB stick to the port and turn on my PC it will start installing the Ubuntu and if necessary, download other needed files from internet, is there such .iso image like this ?
[01:56] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: thanks, and yes .100 is my ubuntu, and .2 my (main) windows box
[01:56] <Bsims> try as a worst case installinmg ubuntu again
[01:56] <pfifo> !usb | quebre
[01:57] <eddie_> Whats my last resort bsims?
[01:57] <Jon--> My friend has a similar setup, I know it's possible. Can't find it in gconf-editor.
[01:57] <eddie_> Can I uninstall ubuntu entirely?
[01:57] <Bsims> as it will wipe your existing ubuntu install
[01:57] <eddie_> Will that bring me back to windows?
[01:58] <lcc> does encrypting the home folder make things slower?
[01:58] <mumixam> lcc: depends on your hardware
[01:58] <mumixam> in most cases yes
[01:58] <Jon--> Ubuntu 11.04, Compiz + Gnome2. I want to hide the menu bar (title, close, maximize, minimize) when a window is maximized. I have a gnome-panel applet installed to save space and can remove this bar. How do I do this? My friend has a similar setup, I know it's possible. Can't find it in gconf-editor.
[01:58] <XxxTilllYxxX> rn
[01:58] <Bsims> in windows terms will nuke it all and format/pariton it from scratch
[01:58] <XxxTilllYxxX> porn
[01:58] <lcc> mumixam: hd or cpu?
[01:58] <eddie_> How would I go about uninstalling ubuntu and only having windows?
[01:59] <Bsims> it will not touch yer windows install
[01:59] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: were you by any chance trying to SSH into the Windows box from the Linux PC?... Otherwise someone else was. :P
[01:59] <Gaming4JC> or vice versa..
[01:59] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: which ip?
[01:59] <mumixam> lcc: both mostly cpu
[01:59] <Bsims> how much ram do ya have?
[02:00] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: definitely not.. ^^
[02:00] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: hmm? 119.80.39.56 is the attacker. .2 is the windows box getting SSHed from the Unix box in the first 3 packets - we don't see the full capture of it though
[02:00] <mumixam> lcc: if you have a newer cpu with a AES instruction set theres pretty much no speed loss
[02:00] <nubcake> i tried to ssh into my linux box from my windows box, yes, but not vice versa
[02:00] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, is the ubuntu a dual boot with grub booting?
[02:00] <eddie_> 3.7 gib
[02:00] <lcc> I have a fine cpu
[02:01] <eddie_> Fydorovna, all I know its a dual boot.
[02:01] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: since we don't have the full capture it may be you SSHing into the linux box from the PC then :)
[02:01] <Gaming4JC> *Windows PC
[02:01] <Bsims> eddie_:  then install hte 64 bit version of the os
[02:01] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, do you get the grub menu when you boot?
[02:01] <eddie_> I don;t know what the grub menu is
[02:01] <Bsims> just in case you found a bug
[02:02] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, are you in ubuntu now?
[02:02] <eddie_> Install yeah
[02:02] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: hopefully ^^
[02:02] <eddie_> In ubuntu
[02:02] <eddie_> trying to get out, haha
[02:02] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the results
[02:02] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: since ssh goes both ways we probably don't have the full capture. and it was just him trying to SSH into his own machine whilist the attacker was doing the same :P
[02:02] <Bsims> grub menu is what oses you have
[02:02] <Fyodorovna> !pastebin | eddie_
[02:02] <Gaming4JC> Chipzz: see above, sorry. XP
[02:03] <eddie_> fyodorovna, run in terminal?
[02:03] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, yeah.
[02:03] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: have you checked var/logs ? Might be something out of the ordinary
[02:03] <tazthespaz> hey everyone i need help i installed ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on my friends computer and for some reason we are unable to open the default unity, only the 2d unity session
[02:04] <Gaming4JC> tazthespaz: What graphics card? Might need drivers or not supported :/
[02:04] <Fyodorovna> tazthespaz, have you updated and upgraded then checked the additional drivers app?
[02:04] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: not yet, the apache access.log shows some failed xss requests but besides that nothing extraordinary...
[02:04] <quebre> i cannot boot from USB because my MB doesn't support it, can i install Ubuntu from directly from Windows XP ? but i want the Ubuntu to be the only system on my PC.. is that possible?
[02:05] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: whoops, I thought that was nubcake's ip
[02:05] <wolfmitchell> Is there a way in Bash to check if there is a directory, if so cd into the dir, check if there is another (etc) until there are no more, and then run a command on the files found, CDing back to root, then repeat on another set of directories, over and over
[02:05] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: lol nope, teh chinese ;)
[02:05] <eddie_> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[02:05] <eddie_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[02:05] <eddie_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[02:05] <eddie_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:05] <eddie_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:05] <FloodBot1> eddie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <eddie_> Disk identifier: 0xf48b7043
[02:05] <wolfmitchell> ?
[02:05] <tazthespaz> well thats what i was thinking so i checked the additional drivers and nothing he has a nvidia gforce 420 i think and we tried installing drivers and it didn't work did i need to update first???
[02:05] <Fyodorovna> quebre, look on the web for plop it will get you booting a usb flash
[02:05] <KI7MT> nubcake, is fyou running apache on your dev-box, another firewall app that I've used on many VPS servers is CSF, has allot of good features: http://configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[02:05] <quebre> Fyodorovna: let me check
[02:06] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: which leads me to believe his box is still compromised ...
[02:06] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, post the sudo fdisk-l info in a pastebin.
[02:06] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: that ip has a lot of open ports... maybe it's a bot looking for companionship
[02:06] <Fyodorovna> !pastebin | eddie_  post it here and give us the url.
[02:07] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: ahhh so you actually scanned the chinese IP.  Fun. Lock ur ssh and hide ur IP they be haxin up in thar
[02:07] <Gaming4JC> lol
[02:07] <eddie_> I am sorry how do I use pastebin
[02:07] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: the ssh traffic could have been the brute-force ssh attempt
[02:07] <tazthespaz> well thats what i was thinking so i checked the additional drivers and nothing he has a nvidia gforce 420 i think and we tried installing drivers and it didn't work did i need to update first???
[02:07] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, look at the bot message above it is a copy and paste.
[02:07] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: yes and they are already blacklisted for that, just curious if they actually got in
[02:07] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: lol... no worries... I keep things pretty solidly locked down
[02:08] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: good :)
[02:08] <zabomber> ls
[02:08] <zabomber> lolcat
[02:09] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, put the stuff in the terminal here then post the url. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: Also now that you mention it, the SSH attempts we see are only authentication - notice there are multiple attempts stating "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1" and they are short
[02:10] <Fyodorovna> tazthespaz, always update and upigrade first.
[02:10] <Fyodorovna> upgrade*
[02:10] <bastidrazor> Gaming4JC: Chipzzz fail2ban may be a solution.
[02:10] <Ho^Oh> Doing a Ubuntu chroot install,            Assuming I got Swap drive in: /dev/sda2     and  my Ubuntu install in: /dev/sda1,             What command in Grub version 2 should I use for installing grub so the server can properly boot up?
[02:10] <Gaming4JC> bastidrazor: I have heard of that but not tested it myself, auto-ban an IP after "x" amount of login attempts?
[02:10] <tazthespaz> Fyodorovna, thankyou ill try that
[02:11] <Chipzzz> bastidrazor: he could just null route the ip in /etc/hosts, for that matter
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> yeah
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: did he ever run netstat?
[02:11] <eddie_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/872421/plain/
[02:11] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, in the mbr sda]
[02:11] <pfifo> Ho^Oh, sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[02:11] <eddie_> Is that it?
[02:11] <Fyodorovna> sda*
[02:11] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: not as far as i know
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> just curious if he's seeing any other connections and if he actually has any ports open since we don't know his IP
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> we know the chinese ip
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> lol
[02:11] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: i did run netstat -n
[02:12] <Chipzzz> nubcake: what's your ip?
[02:12] <nubcake> there were only my lan box and the cinese ip listed on that
[02:12] <nubcake> the lan ip?
[02:12] <eddie_> Fydorovna, did you get it?
[02:12] <Ho^Oh> pfifo, Fyodorovna, Woah snaps. my bad, I forgot to mention my harddrive would be exactly 2TBs big.       :S
[02:12] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, do you have a recovery or install disc for windows?
[02:12] <Gaming4JC> eddie_: outside IP
[02:12] <bastidrazor> Gaming4JC: 3 attempts. its fairly popular in keeping ssh safe.
[02:12] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: * ^^
[02:12] <eddie_> I don't
[02:12] <Gaming4JC> eddie_: sorry typo :)
[02:12] <eddie_> No problem
[02:12] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, if a mbr type the mbr
[02:12] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: its dynamic, changes every 24h
[02:12] <Chipzzz> nubcake: WAN ip or URL
[02:12] <bastidrazor> Chipzzz: or use fail2ban to ban it from even connecting.
[02:13] <nubcake> for now it's 93.205.243.209
[02:13] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, a mbr partitioning not a uefi gpt
[02:13] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: yeah Chipzzz just wanted to know so he can run nmap and see if you have any open ports on the ubuntu box
[02:13] <Gaming4JC> :P
[02:13] <Chipzzz> bastidrazor: or that...
[02:14] <Ho^Oh> Fyodorovna: But I'm not sure exactly how to do this, I tried uefi-gpt         Set up, and that failed me.
[02:14] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, make one if you remove ubuntu windows will not boot you need to reload the windows bootloader to the mbr.
[02:14] <Chipzzz> nubcake: no hosts showing up at your ip :)
[02:14] <Ho^Oh> Fyodorovna: I thought I would need GPT for a 2TB harddrive.
[02:14] <eddie_> So I need to get a windows 7 installer cd?
[02:14] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, can you confirm it is a standard mbr partitioning?
[02:14] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, more than 2 tb
[02:15] <Ho^Oh> Fyodorovna: I think it's 2TBs,           But Ubuntu would run even if you decided to use GPT on a really small harddrive?
[02:16] <Chipzzz> nubcake: is that a dialup connection?
[02:16] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, yes but gpt is out of my pay range. :)
[02:16] <Ho^Oh> I am having very bad luck here.        I think I'm partitioning something wrong because grub-pc should've worked.
[02:16] <nubcake> Chipzzz: it's ADSL
[02:16] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, you can make a recovery in W7.
[02:16] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: I had a botnet on dial-up once, not fun - basically kills your connection XD
[02:16] <Ho^Oh> I've always successfully installed Ubuntu with a tutorial like this: http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787                <---- But not with a new server I have now.
[02:17] <Chipzzz> nubcake: it resolved to "p5DCDF3D1.dip.t-dialin.net", so i was just curious
[02:17] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, very small 100 mb or so that will get you when booted to the windows terminal to reload its bootloader.
[02:17] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: /whois confirms that much :P
[02:17] <nubcake> Chipzzz: i think that's what my provider assigns automatically
[02:17] <eddie_> But I need to get into windows first don't I?
[02:17] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, in the backup section of windows is make recovery disc option.
[02:18] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: so what lead you to believe ubuntu was actually infected? SSH port open and connections to the chinese IP? Or anything else out of the ordinary
[02:18] <eddie_> I know, but I would need to get the cd from another computer, correct?
[02:18] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, yes you make a recovbery cd in the backup section of W7.
[02:18] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: you might not actually be rooted, just rooting attempts :D
[02:18] <Fyodorovna> recovery*
[02:18] <Chipzzz> nubcake: anyway, i wouldn't worry too much about it... it was probably a drive-by bot that saw a host and tried to infect it
[02:19] <eddie_> I know, but I can't get into windows from my computer...
[02:19] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, can you boot to windows?
[02:19] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: having constant traffic being shown in iptraf, even though i had nothing running/accessing my linux box
[02:19] <binger> hi, i was here earlier today with a network connectivity issue.  I had ubuntu 11.10 setup dualboot on my win7 64 bit laptop.  I had network connectivity just fine until late last night.  Since this morning I uninstalled ubuntu completely (using windows uninstall). I burned 11.10 to a cd and was able to boot with it and network/ internet was working again.  So I thought ok fine I'll reinstall
[02:19] <binger> it...the install seemed to go ok but no connectivity AGAIN!  During the reinstall I notice that it said something about reinstalling packages. What I want is a totally clean ubuntu install.  Am thinking that something was corrupted and I don't want it to restore any corrupted data.  So how do I accomplish this.  I've uninstalled it again.
[02:19] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, why?
[02:19] <eddie_> No, that's what I have been trying to do
[02:19] <eddie_> I don't know how
[02:19] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: right, but there was the IPTables issue  ... and then his random media server sending unusual UPD traffic :P
[02:19] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, what happened to the ubuntu/linux install?
[02:20] <nishttal2> Hi everyone.. if Adobe Air no longer works on Ubuntu how do I install Pandora?
[02:20] <nishttal2> are there any workarounds?
[02:20] <eddie_> I am in ubuntu, I am trying to get back into windows. How do I get back to windows
[02:20] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: i hadn't heard about the iptables issue, but the udp traffic could have been the discovery phase of the hack
[02:20] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, your in a ubuntu install, or a live cd?
[02:21] <eddie_> ubuntu install. I dl'ed ubunto into cd and installed it into computer
[02:21] <binger> please advise?
[02:21] <hspcd> Need some assistance please
[02:21] <Chipzzz> Gaming4JC: what's wrong with his iptables?
[02:21] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, okay whwen you booted to ubuntu did you see a diffrent menu or know menu?
[02:21] <Fyodorovna> no*
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> Chipzzz: possibly, but it was on .184 and only a media box. His IP Tables gave this - http://pastebin.com/bicZQpH7
[02:22] <Suitecake> Not sure what happened with this most recent update, but I can't watch certain videos anymore, and the ones I can watch are choppy as hell
[02:22] <eddie_> No, when I turn on my computer I go directly to Ubuntu.
[02:22] <binger> anyone? pretty please?
[02:22] <nubcake> Chipzzz: the pastebin expired, this one is working: http://pastebin.com/cDy0iGgE
[02:23] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, open the terminal and run sudo update-grub and see if you see a line for windows in the read out
[02:23] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, pastebin the info.
[02:23] <Chipzzz> nubcake: try it with 'sudo' in front
[02:24] <nishttal2> can someone comment on Adobe air question above
[02:24] <nubcake> Chipzzz: same error
[02:24] <Suitecake> Is anyone else unable to watch some videos through their internet?
[02:24] <Fyodorovna> nishttal2, if someone knows they will.
[02:24] <Suitecake> What happened with this update?
[02:24] <binger> how to do a reinstall of ubuntu side by side with win7 without it trying to use old, possibly corrupt data?
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: just curious can you "sudo su" ?
[02:25] <Suitecake> I want my rachel maddow plz
[02:25] <nishttal2> Fyodorovna, well i cant be the only one who wants to listen to Pandora on Ubuntu
[02:25] <Chipzzz> nubcake: "sudo iptables -L"?
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: gives you a root terminal, not allowed if your hacked I would presume :P
[02:25] <Fyodorovna> nishttal2, channel guidelines are ask and wait for help and repost after 10 min.
[02:26] <nishttal2> :O(
[02:26] <nubcake> well i can go sudo su or sudo anything else but iptables
[02:26] <eddie_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/872438/plain/
[02:26] <Gaming4JC> nishttal2: maybe it can run under wine? :/
[02:26] <Fyodorovna> binger, way to vague, what is your definition of corrupted data.
[02:26] <eddie_> There is is I think
[02:26] <sacarlson> nubcake: Gaming4JC: I had attempted ssh attacks before,  what I did to fix it was change the port used in ssh to a none standard port number
[02:27] <nishttal2> Gaming4JC, that would suck.. Pandora runs great on Ubunutu 10.10 at work
[02:27] <nubcake> i already changed it, but thanks for helping/sharing the idea
[02:27] <nishttal2> at home i installed 11.10 and air wont install
[02:27] <binger> @fyodorovna here is my post again from 5 minutes ago:  hi, i was here earlier today with a network connectivity issue.  I had ubuntu 11.10 setup dualboot on my win7 64 bit laptop.  I had network connectivity just fine until late last night.  Since this morning I uninstalled ubuntu completely (using windows uninstall). I burned 11.10 to a cd and was able to boot with it and network/ internet
[02:27] <binger> was working again.  So I thought ok fine I'll reinstall it...the install seemed to go ok but no connectivity AGAIN!  During the reinstall I notice that it said something about reinstalling packages. What I want is a totally clean ubuntu install.  Am thinking that something was corrupted and I don't want it to restore any corrupted data.  So how do I accomplish this.  I've uninstalled it again.
[02:27] <Gaming4JC> nishttal2: lol yes :/
[02:27] <eddie_> Did you get it Fyodorvna?
[02:27] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, looks like you should be able to reboot and see windows in a menu don't choose the recovery.
[02:27] <binger> my concern that there is something in the old install that is being restored when I try to reinstall ubuntu but don't know for sure.
[02:28] <eddie_> Whaht menu should I see windows in?
[02:28] <Chipzzz> nubcake: what about "sudo iptables --list"?
[02:28] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, it is called grub the ubuntu boot menu, should come up
[02:28] <nubcake> Chipzzz: still the same
[02:28] <eddie_> Do you have a screen show of what it looks like?
[02:29] <eddie_> shot
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> text, with entries like Ubuntu kernel 3.1.2  and so forth. :)
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> !grub2
[02:30] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28215/how-can-i-fix-the-iptables-error-message-unable-to-initialize-table-filter might help
[02:30] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: definately need access to IP Tables for safety :P
[02:30] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, yopu will only get one reboot.
[02:30] <Fyodorovna> you
[02:30] <eddie_> what do you mean
[02:30] <nubcake> i'll try and follow that article, thanks :)
[02:31] <sacarlson> nubcake  sudo ls; same thing?  I guess that user is no longer or never was a sudo user?
[02:31] <pfifo> Hi Dr_willis_
[02:31] <Dr_willis_> hello pfifo
[02:31] <nubcake> sacarlson: i can sudo anything but iptables
[02:31] <nubcake> and that user is a sudoer
[02:32] <Fyodorovna> !pm | binger
[02:32] <Dr_willis_> bbl. gotta head to work. :)
[02:32] <moes> eddie...when you install ubuntu did you tell the installer to use the entire disk or the free space
[02:32] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: about the article, they do: uname -r and ls that path with 2.6 something in it which they got from uname -r, i tried uname -r and i get 3.0.0-14-server, but i do only have a path for 3.0.0-16-server
[02:33] <Fyodorovna> binger, if you just make a new partition you will be set
[02:33] <eddie_> Moes, my understanding was that I am supposed to have both windows and ubuntu
[02:33] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: odd... perhaps a broken update you did recently?
[02:33] <Gaming4JC> or awhile ago
[02:33] <nubcake> hmm.. maybe..
[02:33] <eddie_> But I know how to get back into windows
[02:33] <moes> eddie_, that did not answer my question
[02:33] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, you will the menu will give you a choice to boot ubuntu or windows.
[02:33] <eddie_> don't know
[02:34] <eddie_> Moes, I don't know
[02:34] <sikilpaake> i made a copy of all of the files in /var/cache/apt i transferred them to a /var/cache/apt in a recently installed computer, how can i make the new computer install all the programs from these files? last time i did this, i remember synaptic asking me to run a command
[02:34] <sacarlson> nubcake  ls -l /sbin/iptables ;   see if date last modified is within a short windows of time?  also whereis iptables  ;  see what iptables you have setup to run;  try full path if not set to run /sbin/iptables
[02:34] <technel> I put my xrandr call in ~/.profile, but it doesn't load until after the login screen. I put it in /etc/init.d/rcS, but that didn't work. Where should I put this?
[02:34] <pfifo> !clone | sikilpaake
[02:34] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, reboot you are set to get the grub menu that will show ubuntu and windows.
[02:35] <eddie_> Ok, fyodorvna, all I have to is reboot, i don't have to press anything?
[02:35] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, nope
[02:35] <sikilpaake> pfifo: where can i read more about this?
[02:35] <eddie_> i'll try it.
[02:35] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, I mean yes reboot no keys to see the menu.
[02:36] <pfifo> sikilpaake, the maual pages for apt and aptitude of course
[02:36] <pfifo> manual*
[02:36] <sikilpaake> pfifo: aptitude is no longer available in oneiric
[02:36] <pfifo> !info aptitude oneric
[02:36] <pfifo> !info aptitude oneiric
[02:36] <liljabengal> hi
[02:36] <binger> fyodorovna - you'll have to excuse my ignorance but at what point will i be given the opportunity to create a new partition?  When I boot from the cd it doesn't ask.  Remember that I am on a win7 laptop.
[02:36] <pfifo> sikilpaake, suao apt-get install aptitude
[02:37] <sikilpaake> pfifo: lol
[02:37] <sTaTiCqu0> anyone good with aircrack-ng, i'm having a prob
[02:37] <pfifo> wow I cant type today
[02:37] <Fyodorovna> binger, are you installing from windows?
[02:37] <celthunder> binger: it should ask if not go to a terminal and use fdisk or cfdisk
[02:37] <sikilpaake> pfifo: aptitude is available in oneiric?
[02:37] <liljabengal> I have burned the iso to several dvdr'd now, even different brands and so on, and I can't boot from any of them. Any idea why?
[02:37] <nubcake> ah... reboot fixed it...
[02:37] <binger> I did see something online about using gparted to completely destroy the linux partition but it doesn't show a linux partition which I assume is ext4
[02:37] <sikilpaake> pfifo: aptitude is available in oneiric? nice!!!
[02:38] <pfifo> sikilpaake, according to the info ubottu provided, its available but not installed by default
[02:38] <Fyodorovna> binger, are you installing from windows?
[02:38] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: or installed fake iptables o_O .....
[02:38] <binger> I've tried installing from windows
[02:38] <technel> I have Ubuntu 11.10. I want to put xrandr in /etc/gdm/Init/Default, but /etc/gdm/ does not exist. Thoughts?
[02:38] <Chipzzz> nubcake: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:38] <celthunder> liljabengal: what happens when you try idid you change your boot order to cd before hdd
[02:38] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: at any rate you should change SSH port as sacarlson suggested :)
[02:38] <sikilpaake> pfifo: please tell me its not being phased out, that's what i read, or there was a rumor going around
[02:38] <Fyodorovna> binger, right and that install is still there and you want to do it again from windows right?
[02:38] <binger> that's what i've been doing primarily. I think I tried doing it from the cd too.  I've been at this all day
[02:38] <pfifo> sikilpaake, I have no Idea
[02:39] <nubcake> Gaming4JC i mean the 3.0.0-14 and 3.0.0-16 prob
[02:39] <sTaTiCqu0> anyone good with aircrack-ng, i'm having a prob
[02:39] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: ah k :)
[02:39] <nubcake> iptables still wont work, but i'm following that site you gave me right now :)
[02:39] <pfifo> !anyone | sTaTiCqu0
[02:39] <liljabengal> celthunder, it tries to boot in black screen for a few minutes, then goes back to the start up for linux mint
[02:39] <binger> well I've uninstalled it again so now I'm wondering what you folks suggest I do to get it working
[02:39] <binger> best chance using cd or wubi?
[02:39] <haylo> cd
[02:39] <liljabengal> yes I did
[02:40] <haylo> wubi is nice for trying
[02:40] <binger> the iso is in the same folder as wubi
[02:40] <Fyodorovna> binger, first follow directions second use the tab complete of nics.
[02:40] <celthunder> binger: wubi is a stupid idea
[02:40] <celthunder> liljabengal: hmm ok try usb?
[02:40] <KI7MT> agreed LiveCD is better than Wubi
[02:40] <binger> ah, ok..I'll give that another go then.
[02:40] <Gaming4JC> sTaTiCqu0: you could also try asking in #aircrack-ng
[02:41] <celthunder> liljabengal: are you sure it wrote the cd /dvd properly did you try md5ing it
[02:41] <binger> not sure what "tab complete of nics" is
[02:41] <haylo> yeah i really recomend cd over wubi. though wuni is  areally neat program, it doesnt seem like it is for long term use
[02:41] <nubcake> weird... i try to modprobe /lib/modules/3.0.0-16server/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_filter.ko and it tells me "iptable_filter.ko not found" but it definitely exists there, i can see it when i ls that path ^^
[02:41] <Gaming4JC> sTaTiCqu0: and ofc only use for educational purpose :P
[02:41] <sTaTiCqu0> ubottu: thx i'm very new to irc. didn't know that was there
[02:41] <Fyodorovna> !tab | binger
[02:41] <sTaTiCqu0> lol
[02:41] <ricky-1> I'm currently booked into ubuntu-12.04-beta1-desktop-amd64 on my desktop but there's no visible mouse; I can still click things (like the top-right icons.) I experienced the same thing after I did an "ubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternative-amd64" install; there was no visible mouse while trying to log in or even while logged in: I had to rely on the "Click Ctrl to highlight cursor position." The system said it was up to date. Right now I'm at
[02:41] <ricky-1>  the very first screen with "Try Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu" tl;dr: no /visible/ mouse. What gives?
[02:41] <celthunder> binger: tab to complete the nick so to type my name type cel tab
[02:41] <ricky-1> logged* not booked
[02:42] <Fyodorovna> !precise | ricky-1
[02:42] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: that is a bit odd, can you use "file" (and the full path) to confirm it's there?
[02:42] <Gaming4JC> it should say something like linux module file
[02:42] <binger> oh...DUH celthunder :)
[02:42] <celthunder> ricky-1: hmm try not using hotplugging and setting it up yourself=
[02:42] <nubcake> Gaming4JC: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[02:42] <nubcake> is what it tells me
[02:42] <ricky-1> celthunder, not sure how
[02:43] <Gaming4JC> celthunder: heh you know I used IRC for ages and didn't know the tab trick? XD
[02:43] <binger> I've just gotten back into irc the last few weeks.  Used to use it a quite a bit but am a bit rusty.
[02:43] <Gaming4JC> celthunder: I just click on names with my client :P
[02:43] <Fyodorovna> ricky-1, your running 12.04 nobody should be answering you and you should be on #ubuntu+1
[02:43] <celthunder> Gaming4JC: uhm that sounds aweful
[02:44] <eddie_> I am back
[02:44] <ricky-1> Fyodorovna, sorry
[02:44] <binger> i use mirc just because that's what i know from before.  I see a lot of people using chatzilla so maybe i'll try that.  What's a good one for linux?
[02:44] <celthunder> ricky-1: try booting to init 1 or 3 and making an xorg.conf
[02:44] <liljabengal> I don't have a usb memory
[02:44] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, cool did you get to windows?
[02:44] <liljabengal> how do I test it?
[02:44] <eddie_> Didn't work, I rebooted and it sent me to the eddie: password menu
[02:44] <celthunder> binger: weechat-curses chatzilla isnt even a proper client
[02:44] <JumboJellyfish> od fucking damnit
[02:45] <pfifo> !language | JumboJellyfish
[02:45] <eddie_> Took me right to ubuntu sign in menu
[02:45] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, password menu not sure what you mean.
[02:45] <sTaTiCqu0> i'm new to irc, what are node flags?
[02:45] <SVNDR> Can anyone direct me to a tutorial on howto uninstall Ubuntu. I have ubuntu dual booting with windows 7.
[02:45] <celthunder> binger: try weechat its irssi how it ends up anyway
[02:45] <binger> will make a note of it celthunder
[02:45] <eddie_> The menu where you log in to enter ubuntu
[02:45] <eddie_> It says my name, above guest, or other
[02:46] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, go to the ubuntu forums and make a thread.
[02:46] <celthunder> SVNDR: boot to windows and repartition the ubuntu drive reinstall windows bootloader
[02:46] <binger> not that i know what irssi is.  But I will find out
[02:46] <binger> off I go to try the livecd.  Later and thank you celthunder and Fyodorovna
[02:46] <SVNDR> celthunder: Am i going to need the windows installation disc for that?
[02:46] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, if you had a W7 recovery disc or install disc we would be done, your missing some tools.
[02:47] <pfifo> SVNDR, this looks pretty sane http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-safely-uninstall-ubuntu-in-windows-dual-boot-environment/
[02:47] <eddie_> SVNDR, are you able to get into windows?
[02:47] <celthunder> svnr maybe probobly not
[02:47] <eddie_> Yeah, I know. That w7 disc is vital.
[02:47] <moes> Fyodorovna, Sounds like he overwrote windows...as he does not now if he partitioned
[02:47] <SVNDR> eddie_: yes iam able to. pfifo: thanks ill check it out
[02:47] <celthunder> eddie_: comment out the other users in /etc/passwd or set the uid below 1000 i think depends on your dm
[02:47] <eddie_> Can I get that disc from another computer and use it on mine?
[02:48] <nubcake> i'm out for now, ttyl thanks for the help again :) cheers
[02:48] <Gregace> hi people
[02:48] <Fyodorovna> moes, a fdisk -l showed windows to be there and a updtae-grub did as well.
[02:48] <iyour> anyone using linux mint
[02:48] <sTaTiCqu0> what does it mean "you need to be identified for services"?
[02:48] <celthunder> sTaTiCqu0: /msg nickserv help
[02:48] <KI7MT> iyour, no
[02:48] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, yeah a same bit 32 or 64 and same windows version.
[02:49] <Chipzzz> nubcake: have a good nite :)
[02:49] <iyour> alright thanks KI7MT
[02:49] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, version as in xp, vista, or W7.
[02:49] <eddie_> w7
[02:49] <sikilpaake> i made a copy of all of the files in /var/cache/apt i transferred them to a /var/cache/apt in a recently installed computer, how can i make the new computer install all the programs from these files? last time i did this, i remember synaptic asking me to run a command
[02:49] <Fyodorovna> !mint | iyour
[02:49] <celthunder> iyour: an entire distro that has 0 users not even the devs doesnt sound useful
[02:50] <bazhang> sikilpaake, using aptoncd?
[02:50] <Gaming4JC> nubcake: see you, take care :)
[02:50] <sTaTiCqu0> celthunder: thx
[02:50] <bazhang> !aptoncd | sikilpaake
[02:50] <eddie_> Once I have that disc, what do I do?
[02:50] <sikilpaake> !offline
[02:51] <sikilpaake> bazhang: lemme try aptoncd
[02:51] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, go to the ##Wid\ndows chanel and ask for help reloading the windows bootloader would be your destination. :)
[02:51] <eddie_> If I do a factory reset on my computer will that bring me back to windows and eliminate ubuntu?
[02:51] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, ##windows
[02:51] <Gaming4JC> sikilpaake: or you can just use pckgs.org and find the ones your looking for then manually install them with dpkg :D
[02:51] <Gaming4JC> but yeah AptOnCD is much nicer
[02:51] <celthunder> eddie_: yes
[02:52] <celthunder> eddie_: if it repartitions which it may or may not
[02:52] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, you could do a factory reset but you need to be able to boot to that.
[02:52] <eddie_> Yeah, cuz I alreayd tried that and it still booted ubuntu
[02:52] <eddie_> already
[02:53] <lerop> may i speak to an op with knowledge of security enhancement
[02:53] <sikilpaake> Gaming4JC: alright, like a week ago i did this: i copied all of the contents of /var/cache/apt to a usb, and then i copied them to the newer computer... then i launched synaptic and it asked me to run a command where it sort of "updated" or something the repository database
[02:54] <sikilpaake> i didn't write the command down, as i thought it would be easy to replicate this prompt
[02:54] <bazhang> lerop, ubuntu security enhancement?
[02:54] <Fyodorovna> eddie_, to be honest since you can't boot to windows and get no grub menu after running a update-grub there are problems there. Go to the ubuntu forums and get help by making a thread.
[02:54] <bazhang> !clone | sikilpaake this?
[02:54] <celthunder> lerop: no but you can ask a relevant question about security
[02:54] <sacarlson> lerop: tripwire is a cool addition for security if your paranoid
[02:54] <lerop> bazhang, someone with knowledge of security enhancement
[02:54] <bazhang> lerop, try ##Security
[02:54] <sikilpaake> bazhang: ok, that works, i already have a script that exports my package selections
[02:55] <eddie_> Yeah, if I have the win7 cd, how would I use it?
[02:55] <celthunder> eddie_: boot to it follow directions
[02:55] <sikilpaake> bazhang: dpkg --get-selections > ~/foo.txt
[02:55] <wylde> eddie_, did anyone suggest holding shift while you boot, after the bios runs to make the grub menu come up?
[02:56] <sikilpaake> bazhang: that part i already have down, what i need is to tell ubuntu "hey, you have new packages, install everything from there"
[02:56] <eddie_> I'll try it.
[02:56] <celthunder> eddie_: why does he need to get to the grub menu he wants to boot to his windows cd
[02:56] <celthunder> er wylde
[02:56] <sacarlson> lerop: glance at your /var/log/auth.log  and /var/log/apache2/access.log  sometimes to see attepted attacks
[02:56] <Gaming4JC> lerop: or #ubuntu-dev if programing fixes :)
[02:56] <eddie_> I don't have windows cd yet
[02:56] <lerop> anyone willing to write me a fully selinux script for 11.10 it can be python if thats easier and be willing to do it for $25
[02:56] <bazhang> sikilpaake, aptoncd was always easiest for me, just making the cd part of the repos and installing from there.
[02:56] <celthunder> lerop: no
[02:57] <lerop> paypal
[02:57] <lerop> celthunder, criminal ?
[02:57] <seth_> where is the host file? i can't find it.
[02:57] <sikilpaake> bazhang: i'll check it out
[02:57] <Fyodorovna> wylde, with a dual boot grub should show.
[02:57] <lerop> celthunder, rob ?
[02:58] <jack> seth_: do you mean /etc/hosts ?
[02:58] <wylde> Fyodorovna, it should, yes. But stranger things can happen
[02:58] <seth_> yes, its not there
[02:58] <wylde> Fyodorovna, worst case he could use the grub editor to manually add his windows partition
[02:58] <seth_> nm
[02:59] <seth_> i'm a moron
[02:59] <Fyodorovna> wylde, it took like ten posts just to get them to rebbot, go for it.
[02:59] <wylde> Fyodorovna,
[02:59] <wylde> Fyodorovna,  err, :)
[02:59] <Fyodorovna> wylde, keep the Valium close. :)
[03:00] <KI7MT> Yeah, need a few for that one :-)
[03:00] <wylde> Fyodorovna, lol
[03:01] <Pondera> Question: how do i pull up a "device manager" like in windows? im using the latest version of ubuntu
[03:02] <pfifo> Pondera, there is no such thing
[03:02] <Fyodorovna> Pondera, top or htop is similar htop needs installing.
[03:03] <pfifo> Fyodorovna, top doesnt do what device manager does, lshw is closer
[03:03] <Pondera> pfifo thanks
[03:03] <wylde> Pondera, lspci will list your pci devices in terminal  too :)
[03:04] <scriptwarlock> Pondera, actualy i remember the days of 7.04 you can peek on system tools>device manager
[03:05] <diskinetic> I am running Ubuntu from a USB thumb drive (persistent), and it isn't terribly slow, but it is noticeably hesitant at times.  Should I just spring for the SSD, or is there a way to pep up the thumb drive?
[03:05] <benn> What is the equivalent of gksudo in kubuntu?
[03:06] <Fyodorovna> pfifo, similar was not enough to keep the narcissism in check. :)
[03:06] <ricz> wr
[03:06] <bazhang> !kdesu | benn
[03:06] <pfifo> diskinetic, append 'toram' to the kernel line
[03:06] <KI7MT> diskinetic, SSD or USB device, SSD wins hands down.
[03:06] <Pondera> Thanks everyone
[03:06] <Pondera> !capture cards
[03:06] <Pondera> !capturecards
[03:07] <lerop> if i can't secure ubuntu with selinux i won't be able to use it.
[03:07] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: pondera: still on ubuntu 10.04 is System>admin>System Monitor ;  very much like windows device manager
[03:07] <bazhang> Pondera, /msg ubottu please
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> So I reallllllllllllyyy need ia32libs on natty. If someone can has the time to compile a deb +5 to you... :]
[03:07] <celthunder> lerop: why cant you use selinux
[03:07] <diskinetic> pfifo, assume I don't know what that meant and say it again.  :)
[03:07] <lerop> purse
[03:07] <Pondera> Bazhang seriously people do that all the time
[03:07] <benn> bazhang: Thanks. I was trying kdesu
[03:08] <bazhang> Pondera, people who know the factoids. please learn them in /msg
[03:08] <KI7MT> lerop, It's pretty secure as it stands, have a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[03:08] <Pondera> bazhang thanks bye
[03:08] <Pondera> lol
[03:08] <pfifo> diskinetic, tell the live cd to copy its contents to the memory during system startup
[03:08] <Pondera> Bazhang why so snoody in a damn help channel
[03:09] <bazhang> Pondera, lets move on. please stay on topic
[03:09] <Pondera> i wasnt evenn talking to you go away
[03:09] <Pondera> i was using the help channel thanks hush
[03:10] <KI7MT> nothing like telling a channel op to go away, no a wise move.
[03:10] <KI7MT> .. not ..
[03:10] <celthunder> Pondera: good luck getting help with attitudes and comments like that
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> indeed...
[03:11] <Pondera> cellthunder sorry im partial to people telling me not to use the help channel
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> !language Pondera
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> :/
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> !language | Pondera
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> plus the channel is quite nice given some time
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:11] <Venne> hey guys i was wondering if i could have some help installing this driver for ubuntu
[03:11] <haylo> Pondera, what version did you have installed agian? my wifi is not working
[03:11] <Pondera> gaming my language was fine so what are u talking about did i cuss ?
[03:12] <Pondera> haylo 11.10
[03:12] <celthunder> Venne: what driver whats the issue etc
[03:12] <Venne> its a wireless driver
[03:12] <Gaming4JC> Pondera: you said darn in family friendly channel :P
[03:12] <haylo> Pondera, i have 2 hard drives do you think this will work with 11.10? ok
[03:12] <Venne> im not getting a wireless connection and its not picking up the driver it needs so thats why its not woring its an RT5390
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> !ndiswrapper | Venne
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> might help if you have a windows driver Venne :)
[03:13] <Pondera> oh damn is a cuss word ya ?
[03:13] <Pondera> lmao
[03:13] <celthunder> Venne: odd most realteks should work does ip addr show your wlan0
[03:13] <Pondera> you guys
[03:13] <haylo> Pondera, i wasnt cussing at you
[03:13] <elky> Problem solved.
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> \o
[03:13] <Venne> umm....
[03:14] <KI7MT> There's only a few RT drivers in the kernel, that's not one of them, so it's mondprobe time.
[03:14] <Venne> http://atinfinity.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/ralink-rt5390-wi-fi-driver-on-ubuntu-11-04/ see i tried following this guide here
[03:14] <pfifo> it used to be broadcom, now its realtek, linux wireless is awesome
[03:14] <Venne> and its not helping because it keeps saying no such file or directory and its pissing me off because i know its there
[03:15] <celthunder> Venne: ls do you see it in the pwd
[03:15] <Venne> i DLed it put it in my home directory extracted it downloaded the patches copied them into the extracted folder
[03:16] <Venne> ls  shows 2010_1216_RT5390_LinuxSTA_V2.4.0.4_WiFiBTCombo_DPO
[03:16] <Venne> so the FOLDER is there i know that
[03:16] <bastidrazor> Venne: that guide is for OpenSuse.. not ubuntu
[03:17] <Venne> -_-
[03:19] <sacarlson> Venne: did you try a Linux 3.x kernel?  it appears they may have incorporated that driver in versions above 3
[03:19] <Venne> where can i get that?
[03:19] <iToast> hey
[03:19] <iToast> Is ubuntu a good os to run minecraft servers on >:D
[03:19] <celthunder> Venne: kernel.org
[03:20] <iToast> I've never ran anything java powered on ubuntu. so im not sure :P
[03:20] <sacarlson> Venne: you might see newer kernels in synaptic or if not there you can check ppa
[03:21] <Venne> im seeing
[03:21] <KI7MT> Venne, Have a gander at this vid, maybe you can see what your doing wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QY46JReJ1s
[03:21] <pfifo> iToast, it beats wondows servrs hands down, but for java apps, solaris can not be beaten
[03:21] <Venne> 3.3-rc6 is the newest
[03:21] <iToast> pfifo, i love my windows server and my ubuntu server
[03:21] <iToast> i've NEVER used solaris...
[03:22] <userman> hi is there an admin here?
[03:22] <pfifo> iToast, thats great
[03:22] <iToast> userman, #ubuntu-ops
[03:22] <pfifo> userman, you can join #ubuntu-ops if you need an operator
[03:22] <Gaming4JC> userman: or !ops :P
[03:22] <pfifo> no do not use !ops
[03:22] <Gaming4JC> more emergency needed for that tho
[03:22] <log> Don't do that, please.
[03:22] <userman> i dont :)
[03:23] <North> Hello
[03:23] <North> I wanna do the remote control from other desktop.
[03:23] <Venne> KI7MT im not running debain
[03:23] <North> could you tell me how to set?
[03:24] <KI7MT> it's for both UB an DEB but was just a thought that it may help you.
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> anyway I'm off for tonight, happy ubuntu to all \o
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> and if anyone has the kindness in their heart -
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/821100/
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> :D
[03:25] <Venne> i know i looked at it earlier the problem is im not sure where hes getting the driver
[03:25] <sacarlson> North: is the remote system still in view that you want to control?  if so then look at quicksyergy
[03:26] <North> sacarlson: do you mean I need to install the quicksyergy?
[03:27] <sacarlson> north yes quicksynergy is a package to install with synaptic or apt-get,  if you can't see the remote or want to see it from the client side then vnc is what you want http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/allow-remote-control-to-your-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[03:27] <binger> celthunder well, I booted from the cd and can't get connectivity either.  So now I am going to take a look at my router to see if there's anything there. It's frustrating because it WAS working.  I grabbed 25gb of an android repo yesterday.  It was all good and can't figure out what's wrong.  I got it working for a little bit today, but as soon as I tried to make the install perm it went away
[03:27] <binger> again.  This is why I'm wondering if there's a way to make SURE that the install is totally CLEAN.  I don't know enough to know if it is picking up something that was bad about the original install or something I did unknowingly.
[03:28] <Venne> :/
[03:28] <celthunder> iToast: binger did you take my suggestions from earlier
[03:28] <Venne> oh well
[03:28] <celthunder> er sorry iToast didnt mean to flag you there
[03:29] <binger> am not sure which ones those were?  I used the cd?
[03:29] <binger> sorry if I missed it, can you copy/paste?
[03:29] <MK`> Is it possible for me to get wireless internet on a laptop running Ubuntu, and then plug in a windows PC into the ethernet port to tether it and get internet via the laptop?
[03:29] <pfifo> MK`, yes
[03:30] <North> sacarlson: I have 12.04LTS beta. I cannot find the Preferences \ Remote Desktop on the Gnome top menu.
[03:30] <binger> celthunder am not sure which ones those were?  I used the cd?
[03:31] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yeah that was i refering to but never saw that again on the latest ubuntus unless i install hardinfo
[03:31] <sacarlson> North: sorry I've never run 12.04lts yet and it's not supported here #ubuntu+1  maybe?
[03:32] <celthunder> binger: i said try static addressing check ip addr and ip route and /etc/resolv.conf
[03:32] <iToast> celthunder, its on
[03:32] <iToast> :p
[03:32] <iToast> ok*
[03:33] <pfifo> MK`, I use this method http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/
[03:35] <MK`> thanks pfifo
[03:36] <uofm49426> dum question maybe but my video card is opengl 4.1 but nvidia driver 280.13 tells me version  1.4  is opengl 4.1 just not empe
[03:36] <uofm49426> implemented
[03:38] <sacarlson> pfifo: MK`: from the look at that link I guess you have to manualy setup a static ip address on your client side.  I wonder if there is a verision someplace that adds dhcp?  I havn't seen one myself
[03:38] <pfifo> uofm49426, you may need the latest drivers from nvidia to get OpenGL4 to work
[03:40] <binger> celthunder oh right.  I did do that and I saved the results for you.  Will try to send to you, but give me a bit...my irc skills are rusty.  I did find the url that was very similar to what I am seeing here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1802235  see post #7 especially.  I tried walking through that thread and my results were very similar.  Maybe something with the dhcp but not sure
[03:40] <binger> why.  Don't see that this was ever really resolved but would have to look closer
[03:40] <pfifo> sacarlson, you dont want dchp, static internal network is much easier, but if you must have dhcp, look into dnsmasq
[03:40] <KI7MT> MK`, Here's a simple how-too using the network manager: https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/
[03:40] <uofm49426> why cant ubuntu start getting newer drivers in there repository
[03:41] <MK`> I'll look into both, thanks guys
[03:41] <pfifo> uofm49426, ubuntu copies debian, you should be asking "why cant debian start getting newer drives in their repos"
[03:41] <KI7MT> That link says 8.xx but I do it on a 10.04 box and it just works.
[03:43] <uofm49426> can you paste me how to remove this driver and nurew what ever its called
[03:45] <pfifo> uofm49426, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[03:46] <celthunder> uofm49426: modprobe -r to unload a module
[03:48] <sacarlson> pfifo: yes I see an example with dnsmasq as you pointed out here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing  but a bit more complicated than your original method
[03:48] <binger> celthunder am trying to send you that file now.  Not sure if i did that right :)
[03:48] <KI7MT> All I had to do was share the IPV4 connection in network manager and UB done the rest.
[03:51] <upset> Hey guys. Tried to update to beta 1 and the installer froze at the end. The result was some kind of unusable mutant, so I started the live drive on creating a second partition. Very nervous. Do y'all have any advice, especially if the live drive freezes again?
[03:51] <Super_Random> can I have some help?
[03:51] <upset> I can try
[03:52] <upset> What is the problem?
[03:52] <KI7MT> Backup anything you dont want mutated and proceed with caution.
[03:52] <pfifo> sacarlson, thats why a static internal network is prefered
[03:52] <upset> KI7MT It's a little late for that
[03:52] <Super_Random> Is there any way i can see what hardware is installed on my computer, from within Ubuntu?
[03:52] <celthunder> binger: upload it somewhere
[03:52] <celthunder> binger: or use pastebin
[03:52] <upset> Ubuntu Tweak does that
[03:53] <binger> celthunder one thought, I do have my ethernet connection set to a static address in windows.  So is there something I have to do in ubuntu so it sees that address?  In other words how to set the static addr there?
[03:53] <Super_Random> I need to see if I can get SDHC firware for my SD card reader
[03:53] <rawfodog> How do I traaaaaaaaaansfer files between 2 computers running ubuntu on a network ?
[03:53] <Super_Random> Ubuntu Tweak?
[03:53] <upset> Super_Random Ubuntu tweak does that. The other option is terminal commands
[03:53] <Super_Random> what?
[03:53] <sacarlson> KI7MT:  cool glad to hear that's working now, I still see some responces about problems and conflicts using that but I'm sure it can work after configed
[03:53] <upset> Super_Random: I don't think I'm smart enough for your question
[03:53] <Super_Random> How do I access that
[03:54] <Super_Random> the Ubuntu Tweak thing
[03:54] <celthunder> binger: /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[03:54] <binger> celthunder i don't know how much influence what I do in windows has on what i do in ubuntu in a side by side install.  i don't know how independent/dependent they are in each other
[03:54] <scriptwarlock> Super_Random, lspci
[03:54] <celthunder> binger: you can use tho same static address in each of them
[03:55] <binger> celthunder so i need to edit those?
[03:55] <upset> Super_Random : Ubuntu Tweak is a program. Google it. It has a very basic hardware info thing, reminiscent of Windows "My Computer." But i don't think it will tell you what you want to know
[03:55] <celthunder> binger: yes
[03:55] <scriptwarlock> Super_Random, ir hardinfo
[03:55] <binger> celthunder aha, maybe we are getting somewhere :)
[03:55] <userman> rawfodog, forget it u need ftp or ssh and lots of luck cause ubuntu is an half-done-half-ready OS
[03:55] <KI7MT> sacarlson, I've not had any. All the PC's on the sub-net are 10.42.42.xx haven't seen any collisions or conflicts yet
[03:56] <upset> Is there any more specific advice on how to handle it if my live drive gets stuck? If I screw up the partition table, I don't know what I'lll do....
[03:56] <binger> celthunder of course the other test would be to disable the static ip in windows.  Then it should work no matter what in ubuntu?
[03:56] <upset> When I tried to upgrade it it stayed in the same frozen state for hours, though it looked like it was still accessing and processing information.
[03:56] <celthunder> binger: no
[03:57] <binger> poop
[03:57] <binger> :)
[03:57] <binger> well, maybe not no matter what..
[03:57] <Super_Random> so...
[03:57] <uofm49426> its old running 11.10
[03:57] <Super_Random> how do I know which one is which?
[03:57] <celthunder> binger: do you have anther comy ou can talk to me on while in ubuntu
[03:58] <celthunder> binger: it would make this a lot easier
[03:58] <upset> Nothing? Aw man... I'll probably be back.
[03:59] <upset> see you later, community.
[03:59] <uofm49426> it dont show removing nouveau
[03:59] <Super_Random> ok...
[03:59] <Super_Random> Now to figure out what thing it has
[03:59] <binger> celthunder I agree that it would and was actually thinking about that.  I have an old xp laptop but fear that that would be another issue as it is slow as a slug.  If I don't get this working today I will try and see what I can do about getting IRC working on that one and we can continue on..
[04:02] <sgo11> hi, just wondering if apt-get, update-manager, software center use the same package index files or not. since update-manager and software center will always show the latest softwares in repo. do I still need to run apt-get update everytime to refresh my index files? thanks.
[04:02] <binger> celthunder so what I am going to try to do tonight is 1) install ubuntu 11.10 from the cd side by side with win7 if no connectivity I will 2) look for those two files you mentioned and edit them and reboot and see what happens.  3) if I am not totally frustrated by then I will disable the static ethernet ip in windows and see if the livecd will get a connect in try me mode.  Sound good?
[04:02] <celthunder> binger: ok well here first write down your netmask ip and gateway from windows then boot to ubuntu edit /etc/network/interfaces like so http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html then edit /etc/resolv.conf and add nameserver 8.8.8.8
[04:03] <celthunder> binger: then stop netmanager and related services and do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:03] <celthunder> binger: try that
[04:03] <binger> how do i stop netmanager?
[04:03] <Ho^Oh> Fyodorovna: I'm not going to need to add the GPT partition to fstabs, right?
[04:04] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, I have no idea with gpt. :)
[04:04] <celthunder> binger: su up then /etc/init.d/networkmanager stop btw use root to edit the above files and restart networking as well
[04:04] <Ho^Oh> Okay.
[04:04] <Fyodorovna> Ho^Oh, I have never dealt with one.
[04:05] <binger> to use root, type su at the prompt as with my galaxy nexus android phone?
[04:06] <Chipzzz> binger: sudo
[04:06] <binger> thanks Chipzzz
[04:06] <celthunder> binger: sudo su -
[04:07] <binger> alright then let me see what I can hash out with that.  Fortunately hubby is not home so I won't get yelled at too much :):)
[04:08] <Chipzzz> celthunder: su - is not recommended for Ubuntu... the developers recommend sudo -i
[04:08] <binger> otherwise I will see what I can do about getting irc going on the old laptop.  It could be a day or two.
[04:08] <binger> thank you.  sudo -i it is
[04:08] <binger> note made
[04:08] <Ho^Oh> Does fstabs need to include the EFI partition?
[04:09] <binger> at this point I will try both ways :)
[04:09] <Chipzzz> binger: it's "sudo command" if you just want to type one line...
[04:09] <Chipzzz> binger: or "sudo -i" if you want a root shell
[04:09] <Ho^Oh> sgo11: It does.
[04:09] <Ho^Oh> sgo11: Uses the same stuff.
[04:09] <quazimodo> does ubuntu stop inbound http requests, because apache works fine on the intranet but i cant seem to get my port forward to work
[04:10] <Ho^Oh> sgo11: All those GUI tools are really just a front end to: apt-get or aptitude.
[04:10] <sgo11> Ho^Oh, thanks for this reply. that means I do not need to run apt-get update anymore. it will be updated automatically in background. right?
[04:12] <Chipzzz> quazimodo: your isp may be blocking access
[04:13] <ravn1> hi guys, I am about to buy an ultraportable, but I need to run Windows on it too, and was thinking to do it by virtualization, but I haven't got very much experience with that. Only tried it on ancient hardware (ans on Atom, which wasn't a very pleasant experience either), and then it has been completely useless. So what is required? If I buy a computer with core i5, am I fine? Is it VT-x that is the key component, or something else?
[04:14] <quazimodo> Chipzzz: im on port 23232 ffs
[04:14] <binger> Chipzzz copied & pasted too.  thanks.  Will see what I can get done tonight.  Else it may be a day or two before I can get back to it.  I do get OCD about this kind of thing so who knows?
[04:15] <Chipzzz> :)
[04:16] <_wald0> quazimodo: if your ubuntu box is behind a router, you may need to forward that port to it (the ubuntu box)
[04:17] <Ho^Oh> sgo11: Yes.
[04:17] <sgo11> Ho^Oh, thanks a lot. :)
[04:18] <root_> hey
[04:19] <akw_> how do i check which of the sites is enabled in apache2 , in ubuntu
[04:19] <akw_> how do i check which of the sites is enabled in apache2 , in ubuntu
[04:19] <Chipzzz> akw_: look in /etc/apache2/sites_enabled
[04:20] <celthunder> look in /etc/apache2/site enabled
[04:20] <akw_> Chipzzz, it shows 2 of them , workspace and 00p
[04:21] <celthunder> akw_: a2ensite to enable others
[04:21] <akw_> but when i run http://localhost/index.php , it is pointing to some other directory
[04:21] <celthunder> /var/www?
[04:21] <akw_> celthunder, to disable ?
[04:22] <wojox>  /quit
[04:22] <akw_> let me check the directory
[04:22] <Chipzzz> akw_: those are the sites you have enabled... to see the available sites look in /etc/apache2/sites_available
[04:23] <Chipzzz> akw_: use 'ls' to look in the directories mentioned for the sites available and enabled
[04:23] <dwade09> okay i am running windows 7 and i need to know how to turn my usb external hard drive into a bootable ubuntu live cd so i can install ubuntu off of it.
[04:24] <tottiq> dwade09, it would be better if you use a usb drive instead of a external hard drive
[04:24] <dwade09> tottiq:  if i had one i would.
[04:25] <tottiq> dwade09, lol k let me get you a how-to guide
[04:26] <tottiq> dwade09, have you tried using UNetbootin?
[04:27] <dwade09_> thanks tottiq
[04:27] <dwade09_> i got disconnected
[04:28] <tottiq> k
[04:28] <_1994_> Hello people! I need help with this question. What would you type in crontab to perform a directory listing of home directory and redirect this output to a file? Thank you for any hints
[04:29] <dwade09_> tottiq:  can you resend that how to?
[04:29] <Cobra36093> Anyone on usinn
[04:29] <tottiq> let me get again
[04:29] <Cobra36093> Using android?
[04:30] <dwade09_> sorry tottiq  as i said i got disconnected.
[04:30] <ricky-1> _1994_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102626
[04:30] <tottiq> dwade09_, np
[04:31] <ricky-1> _1994_, make sure to create a cronjob to delete the old inventories otherwise they'll pile up quick
[04:33] <tottiq> dwade09_, https://answers.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+question/151685
[04:34] <dwade09> tottiq:  omg i hate my network again i am so so so sorry it keeps disconnecting
[04:34] <signpost> is there a way to make my server pass nessus's tcp sequence prediction test?
[04:34] <_1994_> ricky-1, for now I just trying to save a directory listing just ones. Just to learn how it works
[04:37] <ricky-1> _1994_, perhaps:   ls /home/`whoami` > outfile
[04:40] <Chipzzz> _1994_: ls /home/username > /home/usrname/outfile
[04:40] <signpost> man this is hard to find info on
[04:40] <Chipzzz> ricky-1: he has to use full paths 'cause cron runs as root
[04:42] <scientes> anyone have some expertise on grub?????
[04:42] <scientes> i'm not getting a response in #grub
[04:42] <scientes> root@ubuntu-SD:/# grub-install /dev/sdb
[04:42] <scientes> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: hd1 appears to contain a iso9660 filesystem which isn't known to reserve space for DOS-style boot.  Installing GRUB there could result in FILESYSTEM DESTRUCTION if valuable data is overwritten by grub-setup (--skip-fs-probe disables this check, use at your own risk).
[04:43] <scientes> i can't skip cause that option is taken by grub-setup, not grub-install
[04:43] <scientes> and i can't get the parameters to grub-setup right, particularly the -r parameter
[04:45] <Tohuw> Setting up BIND: If my local network is 10.254.7.0/24, what is the proper syntax to express every 10.in-addr.arpa address except that subnet? I need to know so that I can list it in my modified rfc1918 zones file. Or is it top-down processing, such that a later reference to that subnet and another db will take precedence?
[04:45] <scientes> Tohuw, throw BIND out the windows, use dnsmasq
[04:46] <scientes> its way better and easier to setup
[04:46] <Tohuw> scientes: I understand your reason for that statement, but I specifically need BIND in this environment. dnsmasq does not have the featureset I require.
[04:46] <roasted> Question - has anybody ever had any success using triple monitors with Ubuntu? I'm using two Nvidia gfx cards - GT440 and 6200 - in hopes of triple screening. Is there a way to accomplish this?
[04:47] <scientes> roasted, yes it works
[04:47] <y0om4> hi
[04:47] <scientes> however with AMD/ATI/eyefinity you get more monitors per GPU
[04:47] <y0om4> how do i change the order of the icons in the dashboard launcher?
[04:47] <Ho^Oh> For setting up ubuntu to boot over efi, do I need to specify a boot partition in fstab?
[04:47] <scientes> up to 6 IIRC
[04:48] <scientes> Ho^Oh, not sure, but i don't believe DFI uses MSDOS partition lables of fstab
[04:48] <scientes> and that you need GNU parted
[04:48] <scientes> and to use GPT lables
[04:49] <scriptwarlock> y0om4, using unity?
[04:49] <Tohuw> y0om4: There is no way to edit that, short of modifying the source code and recompiling.
[04:49] <Ho^Oh> scientes: So far. I created GPT partition table. chroot installed ubuntu, apt-get installed grub-pc       installed kernel,           after that, when I want to reboot from harddrive, it doesn't boot.
[04:51] <scientes> Ho^Oh, well, fdisk doesn't do GPT, so its the wrong tool
[04:51] <Ho^Oh> scientes: I used parted.      I was following this guide to do a GPT set up: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ia64.xml?style=printable&part=1&chap=4#doc_chap4
[04:52] <scientes> Ho^Oh, the problem you are probably running into is that with GPT partitioning you need a special partition for grub
[04:52] <scientes> a 2 MB partition
[04:52] <Ho^Oh> I made it.
[04:52] <Ho^Oh> Using that guide. It recommends 32MBs.
[04:54] <binger> celthunder:  good news + question.  I have a little script/batch file to run when travelling with the laptop and to disable the static ip.  Ran that to disable the static ip and I now get connectivity via ethernet  with the "try me" ubuntu live cd.  This is good.  My question now is that it wants to install on one of the little Western digital external drives that I use, in particular, an old
[04:54] <binger> 80 gb one.  I really want it to just be a partition on my c drive.  I don't want it to wipe any data off that old drive.  Advice please?
[04:55] <scientes> Ho^Oh, no, it only needs 2MB, with MSDOS partitioning it only has 512bytes IIRC
[04:55] <scientes> yeah Ho^Oh you are not using ia64
[04:55] <roasted> scientes, do you by chance know of a guide to accomplish this? So far all I've ran into was dead end after dead end.
[04:55] <scientes> you are using amd64
[04:56] <scientes> Ho^Oh, you definitely do not have ia64, that is something totally wrong
[04:56] <scientes> roasted, use the nvidia propritart driver
[04:56] <scientes> and then install nvidia-settings-manager
[04:56] <roasted> scientes, I am
[04:56] <scientes> and then run it
[04:56] <roasted> scientes, I did
[04:56] <roasted> scientes, I did
[04:56] <scientes> and use xinerama
[04:56] <roasted> scientes, I did
[04:56] <roasted> scientes, although, xinerama doesn't support 3d stuff, does it?
[04:57] <roasted> scientes, I was using gnome shell. perhaps that's why my monitors lit up but it was just... bad looking...
[04:57] <skinnux99> is there any other better way to be able to send/recieve ics calendar invites without lightning/thunderbird?
[04:57] <scientes> roasted, yes xinerama does support 3d
[04:57] <roasted> scientes, so it therefore should support gnome shell?
[04:57] <scientes> however, windows might maximixe to span multiple monitors, which can be annoying
[04:57] <skinnux99> i cant believe thunderbird does not handle calendar invites
[04:58] <roasted> scientes, yeahhhh
[04:58] <roasted> scientes, so, in all honesty from a usability standpoint, it may "work", but it hardly sounds like a logical solution
[04:58] <Ho^Oh> scientes: Yes, but I'm not sure anymore. So I make 3 partitions.  1. EFI (2MBs) 2. SWAP (4GBs). 3. OperatingSystem (remaining space).                    Then my fstabs should only list: 1. Swap. 2. OS.  3. proc.  and 4. sysfs.            Right?
[04:58] <scientes> no, i did fix that
[04:58] <scientes> but it is a problem you might run into while trying to get it to work
[04:59] <celthunder> binger: glad your network works hope my advice helped a bit.  anyway you can defrag and resize your c partition
[04:59] <roasted> scientes, did you use the tool, or did you manually edit xorg?
[04:59] <scientes> Ho^Oh, correct
[04:59] <scientes> roasted, i forget, it was a long time ago
[04:59] <roasted> sigh
[04:59] <scientes> but i remember fudging with xorg once
[04:59] <hmw> a friend has an instable computer and we are trying to revive it. SSH login still works, but the video card is dead. Is there something, we could kill or restart, that *might* help get the gdm back up?
[04:59] <scientes> along with using that tool
[04:59] <roasted> wel, I'll keep asking around then. thanks for the insight. at least I know it works.
[04:59] <scientes> now im on a ati box
[04:59] <roasted> sorry to hear that :P
[05:00] <Ho^Oh> scientes: I'm not sure what flags are necessary,        I read SOME tutorials that says I do not need efi flag on the 2mb partition.
[05:00] <scientes> hmw, /etc/init.d/*dm restart
[05:00] <scientes> Ho^Oh, gparted can do it
[05:00] <scientes> as well as the debian-installer (alternative installer)
[05:00] <hmw> scientes: We tried that already, but that won't help (this happened quite often in the last 3 years) - I was hoping to do something at a deeper level like unloading the module and thus forcing the GPU to "reboot"
[05:00] <scientes> it has a special partition type for it
[05:01] <Ho^Oh> scientes: Do what? Set flags?
[05:01] <scientes> hmw, well, ctrl-alt-backspace use to work
[05:01] <scientes> hmw, however they turned that off by default
[05:01] <binger> celthunder: yes it did.  It wants to install ubuntu on my g: external drive though.  Will I lose data if I allow it?  How do I get it to install on the c?  The c drive currently has 58gb out of 298gb free while the g is 26.2gb out of 74.5gb.  That doesn't sound good to me.  Need some wiggle room.
[05:01] <hmw> i'm not sure, if we tried that... it is now ALT+SysRq+K btw
[05:01] <damo22> Ho^Oh, i have experience with efi bootloaders do you need some help?
[05:02] <scientes> hmw, that is totally differn't, one goes to x11 one goes to kernel, the +k is the OOM killer
[05:02] <scientes> hmw, its not related to reboot however
[05:02] <scientes> its really a driver problem
[05:02] <celthunder> binger: you pick the drive you want and the installer should let you resize make sure you have a backup though
[05:02] <hmw> ah i thought you meant to kill X
[05:02] <scientes> hmw, i did
[05:02] <scientes> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts X
[05:02] <celthunder> binger: especially with that little free space
[05:02] <hmw> no longer, they changed that in 9.04 i think?
[05:03] <scientes> and alt-sysrq-k just triggers the OOM killer
[05:03] <binger> celthunder it's not letting me pick.  The drop down menu in the installer only shows the one and, of course, it's the one without the most free space.
[05:03] <hmw> oom killer... got to google that. thanks anyways!
[05:03] <scientes> which typically kills the process using the most ram (typ either firefox or X11)
[05:03] <hmw> aah interesting
[05:03] <scientes> but sometimes also kvm or vbox
[05:03] <Ho^Oh> damo22: Yes.         I'm now confused whether or not if  EFI partition needs a boot flag.        And if it also needs EFI flag.
[05:03] <hmw> heheh ... but now i understand, why it sometimes doesnt do anything
[05:03] <celthunder> binger: partition it outside the installer then or hope somene else can help i usually just wipe everything
[05:04] <celthunder> binger: so sorry not much use in resizing etc
[05:04] <binger> ok, let me give that some thought..just not sure why it's not letting me even choose c:
[05:05] <binger> at least we know we are on the right track.  I can worry about the static ip later :)
[05:05] <binger> i think i will just disconnect the external drives before i try the install again :)
[05:06] <damo22> Ho^Oh, are you running a mac?
[05:06] <dwade09> hey i am running windows os right now if i mount my iso image in a iso mount in windows can i install it even in the windows ?
[05:07] <scientes> dwade09, if you use the wubi.exe option, yes
[05:07] <scientes> however that will not be an optimum install
[05:07] <Ho^Oh> damo22: No. It's suppose to be a 64bit server, using an i5 processor.        (Harddrive size is 2TBs).
[05:07] <dwade09> scientes: ? what do you mean?
[05:07] <mumixam> quebre: do you not have a optical drive?
[05:07] <scientes> !wubi | dwade09
[05:08] <ImTheDude> i have a question
[05:08] <damo22> Ho^Oh, is it Mac intel hardware? why is it efi?
[05:08] <scientes> dwade09, Ubuntu/GNU/Linux is not a windows program, but with !wubi, you can install from windows
[05:09] <ImTheDude> in the new orical vbox version 4.1.8 can you still do all of the compizfusion
[05:09] <umashankar> how to use binary distribution in ubuntu . package i am using contain bin,doc,man folders
[05:09] <ImTheDude> for ubuntu
[05:09] <scientes> ImTheDude, i recommend installing it to your hardware
[05:10] <Ho^Oh> damo22: I thought uefi/efi is pretty much similar/same.
[05:10] <saaib> I installed the Battle of Wesnoth game on 3 Ubuntu laptops in home, however can't find the wesnoth server, I'm using 11.10
[05:10] <damo22> Ho^Oh, not really Mac implements it slightly differently on some hardware
[05:10] <scientes> saaib, just click "multiplayer"
[05:10] <scientes> saaib, or are you trying to do a local multiplayer game?
[05:11] <saaib> scientes, If I want to host a game is asking for the wesnothd binary
[05:11] <scientes> saaib, instead of using the master server
[05:11] <scientes> saaib, ahh for that you probably have to install something like wesnoth-server
[05:11] <Ho^Oh> damo22: I've always used this tutorial to chroot install Ubuntu: http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787                 <---- But with this new server here, I can't for the life of me make it boot.
[05:11] <damo22> Ho^Oh, that said, i have created a livecd that boots mac natively on efi
[05:11] <scientes> saaib, sudo apt-get install wesnoth-server
[05:11] <saaib> scientes, but there is no search result for that, tried already
[05:12] <scientes> saaib, you have to click "show technical items"
[05:12] <scientes> on the bottom of the software center
[05:12] <saaib> ahh! haven't tried that, let me check
[05:12] <Ho^Oh> damo22: Now I decided to use this http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5616         to work on grub-pc install, and I'm still having issues.
[05:13] <damo22> Ho^Oh, if your hardware is UEFI you cant use grub/grub-pc you need grub-efi
[05:13] <saaib> scientes, Hah! That was it, thanks a lot!
[05:16] <Ho^Oh> damo22: So I'm better off just deleting boot partition and reinstall the grub?
[05:16] <Ho^Oh> Along with the kernel?
[05:17] <brian> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:17] <brian>  nvidia-kernel-common
[05:18] <brianp1992> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:18] <brianp1992>  nvidia-kernel-common
[05:19] <damo22> Ho^Oh, the important part is that the grub efi executable needs to be on a FAT partition (on mac anyway) under the path /efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[05:20] <Ho^Oh> damo22: I don't think my server is mac o_O
[05:20] <Ho^Oh> I'll try out grub-efi now.
[05:20] <damo22> ok, im not sure you might need to read the manual for your server
[05:22] <Ho^Oh> damo22: The host pretty much spoon feeds me, To prevent that, I have to chroot install Ubuntu.
[05:22] <Lirth> I just built my computer for the first time and when I try to turn it on and boot in Ubuntu I run into problems where it just stops. I can't figure out why.
[05:22] <donsd> Anyone know how to configure font in emelfm2?
[05:23] <nyRednek> quick question, how does ubuntu's encrypted directories work? iow, how does it decide to mount an encrypted dir and how does it decide to unmount it?
[05:24] <donsd> Anyone know how to make vim the crontab editor?
[05:24] <rypervenche> donsd: You can make vim your default editor
[05:24] <rypervenche> donsd: Or you can add EDITOR=vim before the command
[05:25] <tonesfrommars> donsd: I think you have to "export EDITOR=vim"
[05:26] <sacarlson> Lirth: can you get into grub and try boot recovery mode?
[05:26] <donsd> rypervenche, VIM is my default editor. echo $EDITOR = /usr/bin/gvim
[05:26] <Lirth> sacarlson: This is the first time I've ever turned the computer on. Would that still work?
[05:27] <rypervenche> donsd: That's gvim, not vim. Which do you want to use?
[05:27] <sacarlson> Lirth: well if you can't see the console mesages at boot you have no info of where it might have stoped, maybe you will see more in recovery
[05:27] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm trying to boot from a USB drive. How do I tell which piece I'm looking for to find grub?
[05:27] <sacarlson> Lirth: oh if you just built it did you even install ubuntu yet?  try a live boot cd?
[05:28] <donsd> tonesfrommars, I did the export and then crontab -e. Now have blank gvim screen.  I think you are right. Will experiment. Thanks.
[05:28] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm trying to install ubuntu now and that's where I'm having problems
[05:28] <sacarlson> Lirth: on a usb boot I guess it should come up into grub if you hold shift?
[05:29] <donsd> rypervenche, Either vim or gvim will be fine.
[05:29] <rypervenche> donsd: I suggest you try with vim first. try "EDITOR=vim crontab -e"
[05:30] <tonesfrommars> donsd: http://superuser.com/questions/281617/change-default-text-editor-for-crontab-to-vim
[05:30] <sacarlson> Lirth: can you boot that usb drive on any other computer systems?
[05:30] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm having trouble finding the grub. It keeps going to the "Installer boot menu". I try both "Run Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu". Neither work.
[05:31] <jasson38ks> Hola
[05:31] <Lirth> sacarlson:  I haven't tried. I was using the flash drive that I installed Ubuntu onto this laptop and it didn't work on the built deskto so I assumed it had corrupted and downloaded a new file for it.
[05:32] <host> hola
[05:32] <CFHowlett> !es|jasson38ks
[05:33] <sacarlson> Lirth: oh it got that far, into graphic mode at that point then, what version of ubuntu is it you are trying to install?
[05:33] <Lirth> sacarlson: It's not graphic. Arrow keys and enter button are how I navigate there. But I've tried both 11.04 and 11.10.
[05:34] <sacarlson> Lirth: oh then it must be the alternate ubuntu install iso image?
[05:34] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm trying the 64 bit AMD version but I have an intel processor. Any idea where I might find the intel 64 bit?
[05:35] <donsd> rypervenche, I put EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim in my .bashrc.
[05:35] <CFHowlett> Lirth   64 bit works for intel and amd.
[05:35] <szal> Lirth: the label 'amd64' is historic, it works as well on Intel
[05:35] <sacarlson> lirth: I think 64bit is 64bit for both,  might try the 32bit see if that will install
[05:36] <Lirth> Cool. Give me a while to download it then. Should I go with .04 or .11?
[05:36] <donsd> tonesfrommars, Thanks for the link.
[05:36] <dr_willis> 11.10
[05:37] <dr_willis> version #is the release date.
[05:38] <pranavashok> Guys, I'm having a pretty irritating bug here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936535
[05:38] <pranavashok> it doesn't even let me run ubuntu-bug
[05:39] <pranavashok> apport fails due to an ImportError (can't import site)
[05:39] <pranavashok> any ideas what to do?
[05:45] <Silowyi> I wish google had regexp queries XD
[05:52] <alcon32> hola
[05:53] <CFHowlett> !es|alcon32
[05:54] <Lirth> Ok, so I tried using 32 bit and it still won't run for my new computer.
[05:54] <CFHowlett> Lirth   won't run = what exactly?
[05:55] <Lirth> CFHowlett: A caching problem it seems. It stops part way through the wall of text and says "No Caching mode page present"
[05:56] <CFHowlett> Lirth   on 64 and 32 @ boot?
[05:56] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I had it on both for the same roblem.
[05:56] <CFHowlett> Lirth   name brand of computer?
[05:57] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I built it myself. It's my first custom build ever.
[05:57] <Lirth> CFHowlett: So "Lirth Electronics"?
[05:57] <CFHowlett> Lirth   ...  OK  :)
[05:57] <CFHowlett> cpu?
[05:58] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Intel i5 2500k
[05:59] <CFHowlett> Lirth   ...and I imagine you've got a good name brand mobo with that.  I'm guessing there's a configuration switch somewhere that you should look at, but as it's a custom build, where to start?
[05:59] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Huh? As I said this is my first build, so simplification is greatly appreciated.
[06:00] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I got the Asus Sabertooth (someletterhere)67 for my motherboard
[06:01] <CFHowlett> Lirth   sorry.  I was merely reflecting on the fact that you seem to have a name brand cpu and motherboard.  I suspect a configuration switch needs to be set somewhere, but I wouldn't know where to start.
[06:01] <CFHowlett> Lirth   I see multiple causes and fixes ... https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu%3A+No+Caching+mode+page+present&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=NhV&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&q=linux:+No+Caching+mode+page+present&oq=linux:+No+Caching+mode+page+present&aq=f&aqi=g-l1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=338l338l1l696l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=serp.3..0i13.338l338l1l696l1l1l0
[06:01] <CFHowlett> l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a2e6aa02b2e2a8eb&biw=915&bih=548
[06:01] <CFHowlett> sorry I fix
[06:01] <badicalia> l0l
[06:02] <CFHowlett> Lirth   see: http://tinyurl.com/7b8du8l
[06:03] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Thanks, I'll check that out tomorrow. I have school in the morning and should get to bed.
[06:04] <CFHowlett> Lirth   good luck.
[06:13] <megaera> Hello everybody. I just wanna know if it's possible to backtrack the I.P. address of the person in facebook chat?
[06:14] <scriptwarlock> megaera, welcome to ubuntu support
[06:15] <CFHowlett> megaera   ask facebook support about that.
[06:16] <scriptwarlock> and fb wont answer that kind of question
[06:19] <wild_bat> !ati
[06:22] <wild_bat> help needed ~ can't install or remove ATI driver..... http://pastebin.com/y67mTkvL , plz advise
[06:23] <noob> !help
[06:23] <fairuz_> Hey, if someone asks, how should I explain the difference between what canonical's ubuntu on android (which I think is very great) and other ubuntu on android (for example that uses vnc or something like that)?
[06:24] <noob> where i can see ubottu's available functions?
[06:24] <celthunder> noob: pm it help
[06:24] <celthunder> fairuz_: ones slower than the other?
[06:26] <fairuz_> celthunder: That's not convincing I think. Btw, which one is slower?
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[06:28] <FloodBot1> rockasdkj\: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <celthunder> rockasdkj\: alternative to openssh and get the fuck out if you are going to spam
[06:28] <pangolin> !language | celthunder
[06:28] <pfifo> !cn | rockasdkj\
[06:28] <mi3> it think celtunder is unavailable
[06:29] <celthunder> mi3: ?
[06:29] <pfifo> He was active just 5 minutes ago
[06:29] <mi3> sorry celthunder i mean rockasdkj\ is unavailable i mean now he has been available
[06:30] <scriptwarlock> android is owned by google while ubuntu is sponsored by canonical :)
[06:30] <noob> "/msg ubottu help" => no response
[06:31] <pfifo> !ping > noob
[06:31] <CFHowlett> scriptwarlock   works for me  :)
[06:31] <fairuz_> Well I see that with canonical's ubuntu on android, they are semalessly integrated. You can receive call and text notifications while you are on Ubuntu. I'd say that's awesome compared to just running ubuntu using vnc and stuff?
[06:31] <mi3> hey guys I installed the latest version of flash from the update manager[ the update was available] but the flash player keeps crashing whenever i open youtube videos, how can I install the previous version and remove the current one?
[06:31] <fairuz_> *seamlessly
[06:31] <pfifo> noob, you should have gotten a PM from the bot
[06:32] <pfifo> noob, try telling it !help or !factoid
[06:34] <mi3> hey guys I installed the latest version of flash from the update manager[ the update was available] but the flash player keeps crashing whenever i open youtube videos, how can I install the previous version and remove the current one?
[06:35] <scriptwarlock> mi3, try the flash aid
[06:35] <scriptwarlock> mi3, on ff
[06:35] <mi3> scriptwarlock, will that stop flash from hanging?
[06:36] <scriptwarlock> mi3, try it
[06:36] <ja1lulu> mi3:OR Just "sudo apt-get purge" it! And The re-install previous version!
[06:36] <thevinci> is there a channel for GRUB?
[06:37] <mi3> scriptwarlock, I have also installed noscript will there be a conflict?
[06:37] <pfifo> ja1lulu, mi3, installing the old version will prove to be dificult
[06:37] <ja1lulu> thevinci: Join #grub
[06:37] <mi3> pfifo, why?
[06:38] <noob> thanks, ubottu-wiki site helps.
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> mi3, check by disabling some ff plugins
[06:38] <thevinci> yup, figured it out thanks
[06:38] <pfifo> mi3, well actually installing it will be easy, but finding the package will be a pain
[06:38] <thevinci> <-- not a noob... just high
[06:38] <mi3> scriptwarlock, ok let me try
[06:39] <mi3> pfifo, will I manually need to install the flashplugin?
[06:39] <pfifo> mi3, you can only get the latest flash version afaik
[06:40] <scriptwarlock> mi3, flash aid will assist you go ahead
[06:40] <metaspike> mi3, did you install it with flashplugin-nonfree? also ive found firefox is kinda buggy lately, try it with something that uses webkit instead of gecko like chromium or such.
[06:41] <mi3> metaspike which version is buggy? 10? I use google,does it use webkit?
[06:41] <mi3> scriptwarlock flash aid has got huge ratings man thanks for the suggestion, installing it on firefox....
[06:44] <mi3> scriptwarlock the flash aid wizard says it installs development version instead of the stable version, will that be more buggy than the stable ones?
[06:45] <mi3> ??
[06:45] <scriptwarlock> mi3, as long as its stable on your machine why not
[06:46] <scriptwarlock> mi3, i mean the dev version
[06:47] <mi3> scriptwarlock you use the dev version or the stable ver? which one do you suggest?
[06:48] <scriptwarlock> mi3, i suggest what flash aid suggests
[06:48] <mi3> scriptwarlock: ok
[06:48] <sacarlson> mi3: normaly as far as I know the -dev version just addes the header files need for custom compiling things, should not change performance
[06:49] <mi3> ok, installing it
[06:50] <mi3> [installing the flash aid version :)]
[06:50] <scriptwarlock> mi3, after installing disable all your ff plugins and watch youtube fullscreen or minimal back and forth
[06:50] <scientes> sacarlson, -dev isn't a version
[06:50] <scientes> its just the header files
[06:50] <scientes> however it requires the binary
[06:50] <mi3> scripwarlock, ok g2k
[06:51] <chosig> This is interesting, just updated my Ubuntu to latest with the new interface. So first question is, can I reorder the apps I stickied to the launcher bar?
[06:52] <Fyodorovna> chosig, yep
[06:52] <sacarlson> scientes: no normaly its *-dev  in package names that add header files of that package
[06:52] <chosig> Fyodorovna: How?
[06:52] <scriptwarlock> chosig, if you mean drag up and down the icons?
[06:52] <Fyodorovna> chosig, left click held down drag out then back in where you want them.
[06:53] <chosig> Aah. Magnificent! Thanks
[06:53] <osiris> does anyone have a method for playing embedded flash (like the listen now button on a radio site) in something like vlc or winamp or the like?
[06:53] <scientes> sacarlson, thats what i said
[06:53] <metaspike> osiris, there used to be flash video replacer plugin for firefox which is somewhat unmainted of late
[06:54] <Fyodorovna> flashaid
[06:58] <sacarlson> scientes: oh as I didn't read the message you typed 7 secounds after you posted with my name attached I didn't read it till later.  you should have posted as one line instead of 3 or added msg name to each that signals it was to me
[06:59] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, lag problem?
[06:59] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: maybe
[07:01] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: it's also hard to read at the same time as you write
[07:02] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, you reboot sometimes? it helps the machine to freshen up :)
[07:02] <ooooooioo> if i mount sshfs with nautilus, where is it mounted to?
[07:03] <mi3> scripwarlock, installed the dev version and disabled the addons now running youtube
[07:04] <scriptwarlock> mi3, no plugins enable?
[07:04] <scriptwarlock> *enabled
[07:04] <mi3> no
[07:04] <mi3> i mean except flash aid
[07:06] <mi3> nice, did not hang this time
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> mi3, now put back the plugins 1x1 at the same time testing the flash video
[07:07] <scriptwarlock> mi3, ok were done with flash....
[07:07] <mi3> ok
[07:08] <KI7MT> ooooooioo, You can mount it wherever you want, example /mnt/data /mnt/backup etc etc.. but create the directories first before mounting
[07:08] <scriptwarlock> mi3, if it crashes with the plugins enabled you know whos to blame.
[07:09] <sacarlson> ooooooioo: I see my mount with nautilus mount this gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/sacarlson/.gvfs  when sshfs is used as seen from $mount
[07:09] <mi3> yeah, adobe llc hahahaha
[07:09] <kion> anyone knows when the new version is comming out?
[07:09] <ooooooioo> sacarlson: thanks
[07:10] <scriptwarlock> kion, version of what?
[07:10] <CFHowlett> kion   04/2012 = 12.04
[07:10] <Flannel> kion: Last Thursday in April
[07:11] <mi3> jeez it crashes when i activate adblock plus extension
[07:11] <KI7MT> ooooooioo, I use this one among others: sshfs -o idmap=user username@192.168.1.10:/remote/data /mnt/local/data
[07:12] <ooooooioo> KI7MT: thanks, I know how to mount it from terminal. but I didn't know where nautilus mounts it to.
[07:12] <KI7MT> I create the local mount point as mkdir /mnt/local/data before sending the sshfs string.
[07:12] <sacarlson> KI7MT: nautilus must do something like that for you
[07:13] <KI7MT> Nautilus isn't mounting it, you are with the sshfs sting, its just a matter of wehre you want to mount the remote data, that's up to you.
[07:13] <kion> thanks! yes I meant New Ubuntu
[07:13] <sacarlson> KI7MT: as the mount command shows it appears that nautilus did mount it and I can cut copy and paist to it
[07:14] <sacarlson> KI7MT: only diff I guess is that it's a gui method
[07:14]  * scriptwarlock thinks sacarlson has esp
[07:15] <KI7MT> sacarlson, yes, I actually use that command string in a Launcher on the desktop. Works both ways.
[07:15] <mi3> hahahaha
[07:16] <Sixmsj> tried to install the latest ubuntu, it keeps hanging and giving me the circle of doom after i click continue
[07:16] <mi3> scriptwarlock, i activated all the add ons lets see what happens
[07:16] <Sixmsj> any help =P
[07:16] <nene> hi
[07:16] <mi3> ohh it hangs
[07:16] <CFHowlett> nene   greetings
[07:16] <Blue1> Sixmsj: is that ubuntu 12.04 beta, or?
[07:16] <nene> im new
[07:16] <Sixmsj> yeah
[07:16] <nene> :$
[07:16] <mi3> Hi!!
[07:17] <Sixmsj> it's happened before with other ubuntus though
[07:17] <Blue1> Sixmsj: sorry haven't tried that yet
[07:17] <CFHowlett> !ubuntu|nene
[07:17] <Sixmsj> what a helpless position to be in
[07:17] <Sixmsj> im on 10.04 right now, was just trying to fresh install the beta
[07:18] <scriptwarlock> Sixmsj, you have video card attached?
[07:18] <Blue1> Sixmsj: you are in a better position then I.  I am on 10.10 and that reaches eol next month.
[07:18] <mi3> scriptwarlock a [stupid] msg from dear adobe and ff [The adobe flash plugin has crashed blablabla]
[07:18] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: maybe you failed to select a root partition?  I've made that mistake before
[07:18] <CFHowlett> Sixmsj    suggestion: keep 10.04.  Install beta to virtual box - unless you ENJOY suffering?
[07:18] <Sixmsj> i believe so scriptwarlock
[07:18] <Blue1> what CFHowlett said.
[07:18] <scriptwarlock> hahaha lol
[07:18] <Sixmsj> should i have to sacarlson ?
[07:18] <Sixmsj> you guys have used 12.04?
[07:19] <nene> someone speak spanish?
[07:19] <mi3> any suggestions scriptwarlock
[07:19] <Sixmsj> it's really the latest clang that i want and unity is looking better and better
[07:19] <mi3> ?
[07:19] <Blue1> !es | nene
[07:19] <CFHowlett> Sixmsj   it's BETA = expect funky behavior
[07:19] <Sixmsj> ubuntu's 10.04 clang doesnt have c++ support
[07:19] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: if none of the partitions are unpartitioned then it can't guess what to use as the install point for root,  you have to select one
[07:19] <KI7MT> 10.04 is pretty robust now, and will have a clean upgrade path to 12.04, but I'd wait until 12.04.1 before upgrading fully.
[07:19] <mi3> umm scriptwarlock?
[07:20] <CFHowlett> KI7MT   I'm inclined to agree
[07:20] <scriptwarlock> mi3, yes?
[07:20] <Blue1> not sure if I like the hud in it.  and unity still is buggy
[07:20] <MrHarptastic> hey guys
[07:20] <CFHowlett> MrHarptastic   greetings
[07:20] <mi3> scriptwarlock, it crashes[for good]
[07:20] <scriptwarlock> mi3, you can report the matter to ff by pressing the help>report a problem
[07:21] <mi3> scriptwarlock,wait let me try 2 to 3 addons at a time
[07:21] <Sixmsj> 10.04 is really nice right now, i probably wouldn't consider if i could compile clang correctly :[
[07:21] <MrHarptastic> Can someone experienced with C++, point me in the right direction for a compiler. I use VS for windows and would like to know what my best choices where. I'm not looking for the "best". just an option.
[07:22] <mi3> nope it crashes again[not ff, but the flash plugin]
[07:22] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: I'm still running 10.04,  I prefer it to unity, not sure what I will do when support ends in about 18 months
[07:22] <scriptwarlock> mi3, then dont use the plugin
[07:22] <Fyodorovna> mi3, you have synaptic installed?
[07:22] <MrHarptastic> ^^ and by that I obviously mean a C++ compiler for linux.
[07:23] <mi3> is html5 on youtube still in beta/alpha or is it stable?
[07:23] <Sixmsj> 10.04 is a dream
[07:23] <mi3> Fyodorovna, yes I do.
[07:23] <Fyodorovna> mi3, try removing the flash installer.
[07:24] <mi3> but I need flash Fyodorovna can you provide me the link to an earlier version?
[07:24] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: and I see clang support in lucid 10.04, why do you need to compile it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/clang
[07:25] <mi3> I tried the stable version as well as dev  version, still it crashes, you have some thoughts about this Fyodorovna?
[07:25] <Fyodorovna> mi3, it is just the instaler it leaves flash in place.
[07:25] <Sixmsj> it doesn't include c++ support so i assume it's an outdated one
[07:26] <Sixmsj> do you guys know how to change focus follow mouse delay speed in 10.04?
[07:26] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, by VS do you mean Visual Studio or something? C++, gcc, g77 etc are all standard on most all Linux builds.
[07:26] <Sixmsj> it's changing too fast, rendering my global menu applet pretty useless
[07:26] <scriptwarlock> mi3, let me have the video link you watching
[07:27] <mi3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nMEoYIchU&feature=relmfu scriptwarlock
[07:28] <Fyodorovna> mi3, the flashaid FF plugin used to remove the installer I just removed it and lost flash buty I'm trying the plugin now.
[07:29] <Fyodorovna> but*
[07:29] <mi3> see u guys later have 2 go, sorry 4 going in the middle of the conversation hope 2 see you around ok BYE!
[07:30] <mi3> sorry, have to go, i myself dont like that, but have 2 go :)
[07:30] <MrHarptastic> KI7mt, yes Visual Studio is what I use on windows. I was looking for something that was about as reliable. I know you guys don't like the word "best" so i was trying to angle at what you guys would point to if it were your choice.
[07:31] <mikodo> Sixmsj, System - Preferences - Windows.... give that a try
[07:31] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, well there not allot to choose from I'm affraid, Mono-Develop and Eclipse are a couple you may want to look into.
[07:32] <MrHarptastic> Will do. I'll google those now.
[07:32] <Sixmsj> mikodo, that's just for ffm itself, it doesn't control the delay sadly
[07:32] <MrHarptastic> thank you
[07:32] <scriptwarlock> heehe flash is flawless on minitube
[07:33] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, CMake, Codeblocks are a couple more that ring a bell, and one called KDevelop but I've not used any of three.
[07:36] <Rurd2di> hey
[07:36] <Rurd2di> any command to get a memory usage printout in gb's
[07:37] <Rurd2di> cheers
[07:37] <KI7MT> free -g
[07:37] <Halexander9000> Hello gentlehumans! Erm, Don't know how, don't know why, but after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:38] <penyulap> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP:]
[07:38] <penyulap> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: ]
[07:38] <Rurd2di> penyulap: pastebin
[07:38] <penyulap> anyone know what is going on ? there are a lot of these, i expect it's common
[07:38] <Rurd2di> dont spam
[07:38] <penyulap> sorry
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[07:38] <Rurd2di> its also hard to read on text based linux clients
[07:38] <Rurd2di> partly the reason
[07:39] <pfifo> MrHarptastic, all of those are IDE's when it comes down to it, youll be using g++ as a compiler, the development cycle in linux is completly different from MSVC, you should look into autotools after you have a suitable text editor
[07:39] <Rurd2di> easy on everybody
[07:39] <penyulap> I actually get a lot of them, can't update, but just wanted to post an example, but I pressed return by accident before typing my request <argh>
[07:40] <penyulap> text based linux clients, I think that's cool, reminds me of the BBS days. I had blond friends back then, it was so cool. Microbees. <sigh>
[07:40] <sacarlson> penyulap: try sudo apt-get update; ?
[07:40] <Halexander9000> Hello?
[07:41] <penyulap> soory blind not blonde
[07:41] <dwade09> ok i instaleld ubuntu 11.10 32bit from wubi.exe inside my windows side, how do i read / write to my windows desktop?
[07:42] <penyulap> My blind friends had speech synthesisers. They spoke faster than I could keep up with, my, I am living in the past
[07:42] <KI7MT> yeah 300 baud modems & tape drives, man how things change in a hurry
[07:42] <sacarlson> penyulap: maybe try another host repository in synaptic
[07:42] <Halexander9000> I still want my flying car...
[07:42] <penyulap> I know, it's so fast ! every time you work out how to use a site like gmail or something, they darn well change it on you
[07:43] <james_> anyone know much about deluge?
[07:43] <Halexander9000> Speaking of changes, after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:43] <james_> just wondering if i can resume a uTorrent download (from my windows machine) on ubuntu with deluge..
[07:43] <rymate1234> Halexander9000, uninstal gnash?
[07:44] <Halexander9000> james_: Don't think so.
[07:44] <penyulap> wow, i got it testing to find the best server. Lol, this thing is smarter than I am
[07:44] <dwade09> ok i instaleld ubuntu 11.10 32bit from wubi.exe inside my windows side, how do i read / write to my windows desktop?
[07:44] <penyulap> sacarlson, will this auto testing thing do that ?
[07:45] <sacarlson> penyulap: yes I think that will find the fastist host repository for you
[07:45] <Halexander9000> rymate1234: How did I end up with it? Maybe it's important. Isn't there a much more delicate/elegant way to switch from one plugin to another without brutally murdering the offending piece of software?
[07:45] <root_> what?
[07:46] <Halexander9000> rymate1234?
[07:46] <dwade09> can someone please help me?
[07:46] <Halexander9000> dwade09: State your problem.
[07:46] <KI7MT> !ask | dwade09
[07:46] <dwade09> Halexander9000:  i have
[07:46] <dwade09> twice
[07:47] <rogst> KI7MT: he did ask
[07:47] <Halexander9000> [ O _o] My oh my, am I blind.
[07:47] <KI7MT> Me too0
[07:47] <sacarlson> dwade09: maybe you mean how can I read write files to and from the windows partition?  oh and it's wubi so I'm not sure you can mount windows partitions
[07:48] <KI7MT> sri dwade09 had my window closed down and didn't see your previous post.
[07:48] <rogst> dwade09: I never used wubi, but don´t your windows device show up in the file manager?
[07:48]  * Halexander9000 googles wubi... 
[07:48] <penyulap> well, it's found the fastest way to notify me of it's failures now. It fails to fetch /mirror.optus.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 211. and many others a lot quicker now. Hmm, it's an improvement, but a very small one :)
[07:48] <james_> Halexander9000: a forum post says it is possible :O going to try now
[07:48] <dwade09> rogst:  it shows a /media/system reserved mounted.
[07:48] <Halexander9000> Guys! Gals! Please! Don't know how, don't know why, but after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:49] <Halexander9000> james_: Good luck then!
[07:49] <sacarlson> penyulap: you sure you have internet access ?  can you see anything on a browser of the outside world like google.com?
[07:49] <penyulap> hmmm,
[07:49] <penyulap> :D
[07:49] <rogst> dwade09: I think that is your 100mb windows boot partition
[07:50] <dwade09> rogst:  yes.
[07:50] <penyulap> I promise I have some kind of internet access. It's just that ubuntu for some reason is pretending to be windoze in this update regard
[07:50] <penyulap> :D
[07:50] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: We're all just a figment of ones imagination. penyulap doesn't need an internet connection for us to exist as 2d intelligent text entities.
[07:50] <penyulap> everything else works fine, except I cannot update or install new software. I can browse and download just fine
[07:51] <dwade09> rogst:  that is the only one mounted, i had no choice but to install ubuntu with wubi inside my windows on my laptop.
[07:51] <penyulap> and IRC works too. I am on the computer in question at the moment
[07:51] <rogst> dwade09: if you run sudo fdisk -l can you see your windows partiton?
[07:51] <sacarlson> Halexander9000: I can't presume that he used the same computer system to access irc as he is working on his new ubuntu system
[07:51] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: Bet ya' she's a she.
[07:52] <penyulap> it's karmic 9,10 kernel 2.6.31-23-generic
[07:52] <dwade09> rogst:  http://pastebin.com/5heCbmeD
[07:52] <penyulap> it is true, I could be using another computer, that is why i was quick to point out when i realized too. It's not automatic
[07:52] <penyulap> :D
[07:53] <sacarlson> penyulap: maybe manualy just select japan as a host,  did you manualy modify apt-get list file?
[07:53] <Halexander9000> penyulap: I take pride in predending to have psychic powers.
[07:53] <penyulap> I'm just Like NEO, I can login automatically. actually, I think Ubuntu will get to that level first.
[07:54] <Halexander9000> pretending*
[07:54] <rogst> dwade09: create a folder to mount to and run sudo mount /dev/sda2 myWinFolder
[07:54] <sacarlson> Halexander9000: ya if I had a brain I should have noticed that with the blond statements made above, but I didn't so shoot me
[07:54] <dwade09> rogst:  i creat it in the windows side?
[07:54] <rogst> dwade09: no in ubuntu
[07:55] <penyulap> I just used the selecting ftp:jaist.ac.jp from software sources tool in admin
[07:55] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: Actually, the blond statement was irrelevant. She was correcting herself.
[07:55] <dwade09> rogst: sudo mount /dev/sda2 mywinfolder Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[07:55] <Halexander9000> penyulap: Are we talking Keanu Reaves Neo?
[07:56] <penyulap> it's failing,
[07:56] <penyulap> There is no other NEO that I know of, once you seen matrix, I guess he has pretty big shoes to fill
[07:56] <rogst> dwade09: :) thought that  would happen, ubuntu is has allready mounted it
[07:57] <dwade09> rogst:  how can i access the stuff on the desktop?
[07:57] <rogst> dwade09: dont know if there is a special way of accessing it from a wubi install since I never used wubi
[07:58] <dwade09> to bad there isnt a wubi chan
[07:58] <penyulap> how would I  manualy modify apt-get list file?
[07:58] <penyulap> or check it
[07:58] <rogst> dwade09: have you googled for it?
[07:58] <Halexander9000> penyulap: Hold on.
[07:59] <penyulap> ok
[07:59] <dwade09> rogst:  yes but i dont understand it all
[08:00] <KI7MT> dwade09, Im not a Wubi guru either but you could ask in the Ubuntu Forums, as allot of developers hang out there and Im sure they could answer you questions about Wubi
[08:00] <dwade09> KI7MT:  thanks never thought of that,
[08:01] <Halexander9000> penyulap: It'll take a while, checking my chat logs so I can remember how to do it.
[08:01] <dwade09> KI7MT:  under ubuntu forums or ubuntu ask?
[08:01] <penyulap> is it easier to use a private room ? so there is not as many entry/exit messages ? or can i turn off entry exit messages ?
[08:01] <penyulap> oh cool ! thank you
[08:01] <rogst> dwade09: you windows partion is mounted on /host
[08:01] <KI7MT> dwade09, There's a ton of sub forums, surely there's a Wubi forum, if not choose general Support / Quesitons.
[08:01] <rogst> open file manager and go to filesystem and /host
[08:03] <dwade09> rogst:  thanks i am making a short cut to my dekstop with it.
[08:03] <dwade09> rogst:  i will try to read/write to it in wubi
[08:03] <hexacode> are there any gurus in here who knows wat this output means? im trying to see if i installed the graphics card correctly http://pastebin.com/gcwKSasT
[08:05] <sacarlson> hexacode: I'm not sure but from this line   Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb  I guess your not running the propriatary version of nvidea driver
[08:05] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Would it have to do with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929659
[08:05] <dwade09> rogst:  it works, tanks.
[08:05] <dwade09> thanks rogst
[08:05] <KI7MT> hexacode, Look like the Nouveau module and your frame buffers are setup for nvidia, so it looks like it's ok.
[08:05] <Halexander9000> mikodo: I'm checking it right now.
[08:06] <dwade09> KI7MT:  rogs said my windows folder is already there in my /host
[08:06] <rogst> dwade09: your welcome
[08:06] <KI7MT> dwade09, ok. I really dont know much about how Wubi works, I used it once fer abt 10 minutes, and that's it.
[08:06] <hexacode> thanks guys...sacarlson i downloaded the driver from nvidia? how is it not proprietary?
[08:07] <sacarlson> hexacode: maybe it's not activated yet?
[08:07] <dwade09> KI7MT:  well if someone else needs help with it later on you know the answer as do i thanks to rogst
[08:07] <drounse> can someone help me mount my eee pad?
[08:08] <sacarlson> drounse: what's an eee pad?
[08:08] <drounse> the asus transformer eee pad
[08:09] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Adobe Flash is going eventually break on FF. When a new version comes out, they won't provide it for FF, and won't provide back-wards compatibility. Not sure, if this is your issue though.
[08:10] <Halexander9000> mikodo: What? Why?
[08:11] <Halexander9000> mikodo: By God... it is the end of the world!
[08:12] <KI7MT> Naaa HTML5 is here to dave the day on flash :-)
[08:12] <penyulap> froze
[08:12] <KI7MT> .. save ... :-)
[08:12] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Google is taking over providing the flash for browsers, and will not be providing it for FF, unless FF uses a  new plugin API called ‘Pepper‘.
[08:14] <KI7MT> I'm glade I use Chromium :-)
[08:14] <penyulap> Halexander9000 can you see me
[08:14] <penyulap> I can see what you type in private
[08:15] <mikodo> Halexander9000, It basically boils down to Google, wanting people to use Chrome... not sure if Chromium will be supported either. My guess, FF will implement something for Adobe Flash before Chromium
[08:15] <dwade09> hey rogst  here is an issue from my windows side, the folder and document i made as a test is not showing up on my desktop side in windows.
[08:19] <dwade09> hey rogst  here is an issue from my windows side, the folder and document i made as a test is not showing up on my desktop side in windows.
[08:19] <zaggynl> Hrm
[08:22] <mikodo> KI7MT, HTML5 should get more momentum with this development, I hope
[08:22] <rogst> dwade09: could you see your other windows files in /host?
[08:23] <dwade09> rogst:  yes
[08:23] <dwade09> rogst:  i seen everything on the desktop in the wubi
[08:24] <rogst> dwade09: did you check in C:\Ubuntu\disks?
[08:25] <dwade09> rogst:  just boot in there
[08:25] <dwade09> rogst:  boot and root and swap
[08:25] <Kaltiz> Hi I need help setting up my Radeon 5650 to work.
[08:27] <rogst> dwade09: you cant access root from there?
[08:28] <dwade09> rogst:  its like a file its root.disk
[08:29] <Kaltiz> How do I change dir to the fle system?
[08:30] <auronandace> Kaltiz: cd /where/you/want/to/go
[08:30] <Kaltiz> Hmm
[08:31] <Kaltiz> When I open the terminal
[08:31] <Kaltiz> I am in the home section
[08:31] <Kaltiz> Not the file system area
[08:31] <Kaltiz> the Home section appears to be the lowest area I can go
[08:31] <auronandace> Kaltiz: yes, that is default, /home/username/
[08:32] <auronandace> Kaltiz: where do you want to go?
[08:32] <Kaltiz> Ah
[08:32] <drounse> how do i register my nickname
[08:32] <Kaltiz> Never mind :P
[08:32] <rogst> dwade09: ah, then you need to install a program that can read ext partitions in windows http://ext2read.blogspot.com/
[08:32] <auronandace> !register | drounse
[08:32] <dwade09> but rogst  i created it in the /host/user/desktop
[08:32] <Kaltiz> ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/lib64': Permission denied
[08:33] <rogst> dwade09: ok
[08:33] <auronandace> Kaltiz: use sudo to write there, not sure why you want a symlink there though
[08:33] <Kaltiz> Well
[08:34] <zykes-_> shouldn't this work to get mysql packages not to prompt for password ? http://pastebin.com/jKu7Urrm
[08:34] <Kaltiz> When I am trying to make my gpu work
[08:34] <Kaltiz> PowerXpress error: Cannot stat '/usr/lib64/fglrx': No such file or directory
[08:34] <Kaltiz> I get that
[08:35] <dwade09> rogst:  il figure it out tomorrow right now im off to bed, thank you again so much for all your help
[08:36] <Kaltiz> God dammit my catalyst still isn't finding the device :/
[08:42] <zykes-_> anyone here that knows ?
[08:43] <helloman2012> hello
[08:44] <Kaltiz> ):
[08:45] <dr_willis> hmm
[08:45] <auronandace> Kaltiz: how are you installing the driver?
[08:45] <Kaltiz> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide
[08:46] <Kaltiz> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 that is a better link
[08:46] <Kaltiz> May have gotten it working now :L
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Knowing my luck, I'll run into another error
[08:47] <auronandace> Kaltiz: did you try the drivers from ubuntu repo first?
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Yes
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Well I am not sure
[08:48] <Kaltiz> Where do I find them?
[08:48] <auronandace> Kaltiz: there is an additional drivers dialog that offers it
[08:48] <auronandace> Kaltiz: jockey-gtk
[08:48] <Kaltiz> It never was able to finish installing the post -release
[08:48] <Kaltiz> It would always freeze up
[08:49] <auronandace> Kaltiz: i hope the manual method has worked for you then
[08:49] <Kaltiz> Maybe
[08:49] <Kaltiz> Stuck in Unity 2D atm :L
[08:51] <dr_willis> for my ati box i folowed some guide i fiund at the askubuntu.com site.  showed how to make a deb of the latest version
[08:51] <dr_willis> i might have it bookmarked ah  delicious.com/dr_willis
[08:55] <reenignEesreveR> i have quite a powerful machine on which i'd like to run multiple VMs ... whats the best stack option i have?
[08:56] <wuwoot> anybody encounter the issue of all the windows collapsing into the first workspace when alt + tabbing? anybody know of a fix?
[08:56] <drounse> how do i join the android channels?
[08:57] <auronandace> drounse: register your nick?
[08:57] <drounse> i cant figure out how to:/
[08:57] <auronandace> !register | drounse
[08:57] <reenignEesreveR> auronandace, /msg nickserv help
[08:58] <auronandace> drounse: better to ask in #freenode
[09:00] <ubuntu> elo
[09:00] <ubuntu> hi
[09:01] <ace> hello guys, do you know if anywhere we can still found the 9.10 source list for apt?
[09:01] <auronandace> !eol | ace
[09:01] <ace> auronandace: i know it s EOL
[09:01] <Kaltiz> Well
[09:01] <Kaltiz> That went terribly
[09:01] <ace> but i wonder if somewhere we can keep it
[09:02] <ace> it s an old server and i just need one package
[09:02] <ace> and not enough time for a whole reinstall
[09:02] <auronandace> ace: why aren't you using something supported?
[09:02] <ace> auronandace: it was not EOL when it was installed 2 years ago
[09:02] <geirha> ace: See the EOLUpgrades page
[09:02] <auronandace> ace: ubottu just gave you a lovely link on how to upgrade too
[09:03] <ace> ok you don't read
[09:03] <ace> thank you anyway
[09:03] <qweqe3> barabashi
[09:03] <geirha> ace: *sigh*, just read the page. It explains where you can get the latest packages for your eol release.
[09:04] <dr_willis> no one ever wants to read. ;)
[09:04] <ace> geirha: indeed
[09:05] <dr_willis> eol stuff is all moved to some archive.ubuntu.com server i recall
[09:05] <ace> i read "upgrade" so i thought it was to upgrade
[09:05] <ace> thank you very much
[09:05] <sergiu> is there any channel for chrome browser support
[09:05] <ace> and sorry for my bad reading
[09:06] <auronandace> !alis | sergiu
[09:06] <Kaltiz> auronandace Do you know anything about installing the ones from jockey?
[09:07] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[09:07] <auronandace> Kaltiz: i use nvidia rather than ati/amd but the process is the same
[09:08] <Kaltiz> I got this bug :l
[09:08] <Kaltiz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/804662
[09:08] <auronandace> Kaltiz: its very straightforward
[09:08] <auronandace> Kaltiz: oh
[09:08] <Kaltiz> Not very straight forward :(
[09:08] <ponrajuganesh> whether is there any command that could get the count of recently created files in the directory
[09:09] <ace> auronandace: thx thx thx
[09:09] <auronandace> Kaltiz: its meant to be straightforward :) i've never run into bugs (again i use nvidia rather than ati/amd, not sure if that makes a difference to jockey bugs)
[09:09] <dr_willis> ls and wc   ;)
[09:09] <auronandace> ace: no worries :)
[09:10] <drounse> wow people on android-dev are a*******
[09:11] <ponrajuganesh> In a directory I need to find the most recenlty created files, pls could anyone say is there any command there
[09:12] <drounse> does anyone here have any android experience?
[09:12] <dr_willis> thats a big topic
[09:13] <auronandace> drounse: if its not ubuntu related then we can't help
[09:13] <drounse> dr_willis i just need to know how to update with no sd card
[09:13] <drounse> auronandace you still could help if you knew ;)
[09:14] <dr_willis> theres #android
[09:14] <hello2012> hello
[09:14] <auronandace> drounse: not in this channel (and i don't know, i don't own a smartphone)
[09:14] <hello2012> 1234567890
[09:15] <Kaltiz> God dammit ubuntu hates me :/
[09:15] <MagePsycho> is there a way to downgrade PHP 5.3 to 5.2 ? i have full root access
[09:15] <auronandace> !language | Kaltiz
[09:15] <drounse> dr_willis everyone in those android channels are a*******
[09:15] <bambanx> wassup
[09:15] <dr_willis> !pin
[09:16] <auronandace> drounse: that doesn't make this android support
[09:16] <xrfang> hi, I have a local repository (setup by IT using apt-proxy).  When I do an apt-get upgrade, it reports a lot of 404 error, after checking, I found that apt-get try to fetch software versions NOT available on the repo server, I don't know where it get these version info, and how can I erase "memory" of apt-get client, and let it sync with server?
[09:16] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:17] <hiexpo> hola
[09:17] <drounse> auronandace i know i like this channel
[09:17] <dr_willis> add launcher in gnome shell?
[09:18] <satish> whats the command to join to ubuntu india channel
[09:18] <hiexpo> hi ya dr_willis
[09:18] <auronandace> !india | satish
[09:18] <satish> how to join
[09:18] <Kaltiz> Can anyone help me with installing my ATI Radeon gpu?
[09:19] <auronandace> satish: /join #ubuntu-in
[09:19] <satish> thank you Guys
[09:19] <GodMitax> hello can anybody help me with installing amd driver on 10.04 with kernel 3.2.6
[09:20] <Teche> Hello...
[09:20] <Teche> I've got a simple question hope someone can help me...
[09:21] <Teche> i've just downloaded 12.04 and trying to install on my presario but get a message that the CPU is not supported
[09:21] <xrfang> hi, I get 404 error while using apt-get (ubuntu 10.04 server), any hint please?
[09:21] <Teche> is centrino not supported on 12.04
[09:21] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:22] <MagePsycho> is there a way to downgrade PHP 5.3 to 5.2 ? i have full root access
[09:22] <GodMitax> hello can anybody help me with installing amd driver on 10.04 with kernel 3.2.6
[09:22] <bambanx> you can use both MagePsycho
[09:22] <MagePsycho> bambanx
[09:23] <MagePsycho> i am using magento 1.3 and it only works in 5.2
[09:23] <MagePsycho> so
[09:23] <bambanx> use prestashop!!!!
[09:23] <Teche> trying again, is centrino supported on 12.04 beta 1...anyone?
[09:24] <Teche> atleast anyone know where I can find a HAL?
[09:24] <dr_willis> should be
[09:24] <dr_willis> !hal
[09:25] <ome> Does anyone else has problem with Forward search as well ?
[09:25] <Teche> thanks....will look into that.appreciate it.
[09:30] <bennyp> Hi there. I want to run Ubuntu on a netbook (with no hdd) off of a USB key. I.e. the system's entire storage will be the USB key. can someone please point me in the right direction?
[09:30] <Halexander9000> I am in the process of being deprecated? Oh maaaaaan...
[09:31] <gvo> Halexander9000: Always knew it might happen...;)
[09:31] <Kaltiz> Hey
[09:31] <Kaltiz> How do I remove a symbolic link/
[09:31] <Guest22325> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:31] <Halexander9000> GVo: But I've just begun to live!
[09:32] <Guest22325> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+remove+symbolic+link
[09:32] <bennyp> thanks Guest22325
[09:32] <gvo> bennyp: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[09:32] <gvo> Too
[09:33] <gvo> Halexander9000: But remember deprecated only means we need to ignore you.  ;)
[09:33] <gvo> Halexander9000: Worry when they suggest you be removed.
[09:34] <Halexander9000> gvo: [ T n T]
[09:34] <dr_willis> bennyp:  you can do a normal full install to a large enough flash drive
[09:35] <bennyp> dr_willis: can i install from that same pen drive?
[09:35] <bennyp> dr_willis: i.e. boot the liveiso from the drive, then install onto that same drive?
[09:35] <dr_willis> easier to use 2 pendrives in that case
[09:36] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!!
[09:37] <ponrajuganesh> whether could we notify when a new file is created in a folder
[09:37] <bambanx> ponrajuganesh, hey ! ! ! ! ! ! !
[09:37] <dr_willis> !info fam
[09:37] <dr_willis> fam can do that i belive
[09:39] <Halexander9000> ubottu is the best pony.
[09:39] <Flynsarmy> i'm trying to dpkg -i sudo dpkg -i gcc-3.4-base_3.4.6-8ubuntu2_amd64.deb but getting gcc-3.4-base: 3.4.6-8ubuntu2 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with gcc-3.4-base:i386 3.4.6-6ubuntu3 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed - i've tried dpkg -r sudo dpkg -r gcc-3.4-base but it says its not installed
[09:40] <Brontolo> Buongiorno
[09:40] <Halexander9000> Brontolo: La donna e mobile!
[09:41] <miha> how can i get some more standard java plugin for browser? iced tea crashes all the time?
[09:41] <miha> can't i use openjdk or sun one?
[09:41] <nick> Hello
[09:42] <gvo> Flynsarmy: Are you running on a 64 bit kernel?
[09:43] <airco>  Hi. When running linux on vmBOX through windows, my networkcard isn't recognized. How and why?
[09:43] <Flynsarmy> gvo yes. uname -a 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:44] <Flynsarmy> gvo just trying to figure out how to remove the i386 packages i stupidly installed so i can get the 64bit equivalents installed
[09:44] <gvo> dpkg -l | grep gcc and see what's installed.
[09:45] <Flynsarmy> gvo aha, perfect. thanks
[09:45] <gvo> Or run synaptic and delete
[09:46] <Flynsarmy> i tried searching for gcc-3.4 in synaptic and it didn't show anythining. dpkg -l worked though
[09:46] <wam> the next hop in a routing which is a ubuntu lucid, is sending me icmp reset now and then. I'm looking for things that could cause this. I think, iptables shouldn't send icmp resets. Is there anything in the kernel that does this? Any hints welcome. I just don't know where to start looking.
[09:46] <gvo> shorten the search in synaptic to g\
[09:46] <gvo> gcc
[09:47] <gvo> Darned backspace key is too close to the enter key.
[09:51] <upset> I tried to upgrade to Precise Pangolin beta 1 and the installer failed. Then I tried to install to a new partition and that failed. The result is a wonky version of light-gdm that responds to nothing. What should I do?
[09:52] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:52] <Flynsarmy> any idea why, when compiling i'd be getting /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
[09:53] <sergiu> ) bambanx: stick with the new unity
[09:53] <upset> PLease help.
[09:54] <ArizonaBAY__> shout cast broadcasting softwarE?
[09:54] <ndkelly> bambanx, Have you installed it over another DE?
[09:55] <ndkelly> upset, You may be better off waiting until it's out of Beta.
[09:55] <ubuntu> hi
[09:55] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[09:55] <ubuntu> ive got a issue
[09:55] <upset> ndkelly: Dude, I get that. But I need to repair my computer.
[09:55] <MagePsycho> is there a way to download php version using .htaccess
[09:56] <Guest22325> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:56] <upset> ndkelly: I don't know what to do because there isn't any repair utility for Precise as far as I know.
[09:56] <bambanx> ndkelly, unity
[09:56] <ubuntu> when i try to open a file in the my paint program its a image file and it open in the viewer instead of my paint
[09:56] <bambanx> ndkelly, i am using ubuntu 11.10 and i installed gnome but it have  problems
[09:56] <ryannathans> I'm trying to run an application in wine but the application freezes before a gui starts, looking at processes running, compiz is maxed out 100%, what do?
[09:56] <mi3> HI!
[09:56] <ndkelly> bambanx, Uninstall Unity. Or Log out, then log back in with a pure gnome environment.
[09:56] <ubuntu> its ubuntu 11.10
[09:57] <ndkelly> upset, Do you have any important data backed up?
[09:57] <bambanx> ndkelly, i log out i have days with it
[09:57] <mi3> ryannathans, which application?
[09:57] <mi3> ryannathans, which application are you trying to use?
[09:57] <ndkelly> bambanx, I'm not sure what you mean.
[09:57] <ryannathans> mi3: League of Legends
[09:58] <bambanx> ndkelly, in my gnome i cannot create launcher i dont have the button fot show desktop too
[09:58] <upset> ndkelly: I have most of the data backed up, but not my latest artwork and not my classnotes (which are really crucial and irreplaceable)
[09:58] <ryannathans> mi3: i'm following a guide but this isn't supposed to happen
[09:58] <mi3> ok ryannathans how many frames per second are you getting?
[09:58] <bambanx> ndkelly, i cannot delete icons in the panel too :/
[09:58] <ndkelly> upset, Boot from a Live CD. Backup your data/artwork, and then consider a clean install.
[09:58] <ndkelly> bambanx, Are they just greyed out? Or is there an error message.
[09:59] <ryannathans> mi3: err nothing. The application freezes before the gui shows up. I don't even get to the patcher/launcher. Compiz maxes out on cpu usage.
[09:59] <upset> ndkelly: I can't access the data.
[09:59] <drounse> can you stream with sftp?
[09:59] <bambanx> ndkelly, you have teamviewer?
[09:59] <ndkelly> upset, Not even through a Live CD?
[09:59] <ndkelly> bambanx, Not on my netbook no.
[09:59] <upset> ndkelly: It says I don't have permission.
[09:59] <bambanx> ndkelly,  =(
[09:59] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[10:00] <bambanx> ndkelly, if i drag a icon on the top panel , them i cannot delete it if i wanna
[10:00] <ndkelly> upset, You need to access Nautilus (assuming) with root privelages.
[10:01] <upset> ndkelly: How would I even do that on a live drive?
[10:01] <ndkelly> bambanx, When you logged in, did you manually select your environment?
[10:01] <ndkelly> upset, Give me a second, i'm not entirely sure.
[10:01] <bambanx> ndkelly, yes
[10:02] <ndkelly> upset, type this is console 'gksu nautilus'
[10:02] <ndkelly> bambanx, And what did you select/
[10:02] <upset> ndkelly: That will give me root permission even in a live drive?
[10:02] <luxius> hey, where can I get help getting to understand Ubuntu better? This channel or somewhere else?
[10:02] <ndkelly> upset, Should do. Give it a shot.
[10:02] <saju_m> how check whether a file is sparse or no ?
[10:02] <bambanx> ndkelly, gnome without effects
[10:03] <ndkelly> luxius, Is there something in particular you wish to know/
[10:03] <saju_m> i tried #ls -lsh, but can not figure out.
[10:03] <upset> ndkelly: Okay. I'll report back, thank you.
[10:03] <saju_m> have any other way
[10:03] <ndkelly> bambanx, Re-log, and choose 'Gnome'
[10:03] <bennyp> with current methods, am I limited to 4gb of "persistence" space on a usb drive install?
[10:04] <luxius> ndkelly, I have a few specific questions, yes. Yesterday I did 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop', updated and upgraded, then 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' - but I don't see any difference, how can I check?
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, do sudo apt-get purge
[10:04] <luxius> thanks
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will remove all ubuntu related stuff you dont need
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> and hopefully leave you with a pure xubuntu setup
[10:04] <ndkelly> luxius, Log out. Then at the bottom of the screen, choose your desktop environment manually.
[10:04] <luxius> lol, hopefully ;)
[10:05] <ome> why I can't pass parameters to the xinit client ?
[10:05] <ndkelly> luxius, I've literally just done the same. Trying out xfce
[10:05] <bambanx> ndkelly, in a few minutes i do , i am installing a plugin on eclipse right now
[10:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce is great, ndkelly
[10:05] <ome> `xinit client param1 param2 param2` all the params are ignored and it's same as `xinit client` ?
[10:05] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It's not as pretty as gnome IMO. However it has proved faster on my netbook.
[10:06] <luxius> okay, purge did "nothing" ... I'll pastebin, cause I have another error I would like fixed/explained
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, meh, it may not be as pretty but its a damn sight faster
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i dont mind the minimalistic look
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm i thought it was purge
[10:06] <mi3> ryan are you there?
[10:06] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, Now for the great 'looks over functionality' debate with myself!
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> haha
[10:06] <luxius> http://pastebin.com/4mjaG8tZ
[10:07] <Kaltiz> Still having problems with my Radeon 5650 if anyone knows naything ....
[10:07] <luxius> it keeps telling me I should apt-get update to "fix" this duplicate problem.
[10:07] <ndkelly> luxius, Did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[10:07] <luxius> yes
[10:07] <luxius> It keeps re-appearing, that message
[10:08] <ndkelly> It seems you have both the intel and AMD repos added.
[10:08] <luxius> ah, yes
[10:08] <gvo> Is it normal to have both 32 bit and 64 bit repos?
[10:08] <ndkelly> Are you on AMD, or and Intel chip?
[10:08] <luxius> Intel x64
[10:08] <ndkelly> luxius, Then remove the repo.
[10:08] <ndkelly> AMD*
[10:08] <luxius> hang on
[10:08] <luxius> no, it needs to be AMD64 to be 64-bit enabled
[10:08] <gvo> No, the intel is a 32 bit
[10:08] <luxius> exactly, thank you gvo =)
[10:08] <gvo> Don't remove the amd
[10:09] <ndkelly> Ah yes. My fault. Sorry.
[10:09] <ndkelly> Still half asleep.
[10:09] <gvo> me too.
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> that will get rid of everything ubuntu
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> and leave you with pure xfce
[10:10] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[10:10] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, How would I place the taskbar at the top instead of the bottom?
[10:10] <luxius> http://pastebin.com/PicCipUk <--- my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <ndkelly> In xfce.
[10:10] <majd> Hey #ubuntu -  i'm trying to ssh into my server. I'm at a public library and it seems like some ports (including ssh's own port 22) are blocked. What alternatives do i have to accessing my server via ssh?
[10:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, mine was at the top when i moved to xfce
[10:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> so no idea, google it
[10:11] <luxius> WhereIsMySpoon, cool, thanks =)
[10:11] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It may be because i still have Gnome installed.
[10:11] <gvo> Nicekiwi: I'd check with the ppa owner.
[10:11] <luxius> but I'm a linux n00b (not computer illiterate, though), so I'm not exactly sure what Ubuntu is. It's more than just a desktop, right?
[10:11] <Nicekiwi> gvo: it does that with all PPA's i try to add
[10:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel
[10:12] <luxius> I mean ... I used to play with debian'
[10:12] <ndkelly> I didn't want to get rid of it, so currently have Gnome 2, xfce and Openbox installed.
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, Ubuntu is a distribution of linux
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu is a customisation of ubuntu
[10:12] <luxius> Hehe, I got that much ;)
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> its smaller and faster
[10:12] <luxius> But what is the difference between debian and ubuntu, is what I'm asking?
[10:12] <ubuntu> ubuntu is a good os if hackers would stop thinking of ways to screwit up
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3890111/Debian-vs-Ubuntu-Contrasting-Philosophies.htm
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> try to google :)
[10:13] <arith> hello folks, any norwegians here?
[10:13] <Myrtti> !no | arith
[10:13] <ndkelly> luxius, ubuntu is Debian based. And releases much more often. However when Debian does release, it's a little more stable.
[10:13] <gvo> ubuntu: you mean people like the author of Unity?
[10:13] <ndkelly> From what i gather.
[10:13] <ubuntu> not as bad as windows yet but im shure thier working on it
[10:13] <arith> takk
[10:13]  * WhereIsMySpoon shudders at the mention of Unity
[10:13] <gvo> If conical has their way, it'll be worse than windows
[10:14]  * ndkelly isn't a fan of unity either.
[10:14] <luxius> I had a lot of windows crash with unity - not impressed at all
[10:14] <gvo> Of course Gnome 3 developers aren't doing well either.
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome3 isnt much better sadly, at least imo
[10:14] <Myrtti> just a reminder on todays topic, which is Ubuntu support. Discussion about the merits of different operating systems, distributions and desktop environments, please see #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:14] <ndkelly> upset, How are you getting on?
[10:15] <gvo> Myrtti like unity
[10:15] <gvo> likes
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> gvo, that has nothing to do with it
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> hes just pushing us back on topic :)
[10:15] <gvo> I know.
[10:15] <precubcr> hy please, whre can i get help for backtrack ?
[10:15] <upset> ndkelly: So far, so good. I think this can work.
[10:15] <Pici> precubcr: #backtrack-linux
[10:15] <Myrtti> WhereIsMySpoon: she, actually. Moving on.
[10:15] <upset> ndkelly: You're a lifesaver
[10:16] <ndkelly> upset, Glad i could help.
[10:16] <luxius> so ... without doing the apt-get commands, is there a way to manually correct/inspect conf files to understand how X11 boots? I know there is, but where? =)
[10:16] <ubuntu> i need a anti hack ubuntu bot any ideas
[10:16] <precubcr> thx
[10:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Sorry Myrtti :)
[10:18] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It seems to have combined the top and bottom panels. So i have tasks, and battery/notifications all on the bottom.
[10:18] <ndkelly> Strange.
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, do you still have applications/places/system along the top left?
[10:18] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, No sir.
[10:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> pff i got no idea what's happened :P
[10:19] <ndkelly> I didn't want to remove Gnome so i don't have to reconfigure it all while i'm only trying out new DEs.
[10:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah ok
[10:20] <ndkelly> Going to re-log into Gnome.
[10:21] <wildbat> On 11.10 how do i do a complete reinstall of gnome-desktop? ati-driver break it .....
[10:22] <Culiforge> looking for a starting point for troubleshooting and resolving 'dpkg: error processing koha-common (--configure):
[10:22] <Culiforge>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 255'. Full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/872380/
[10:23] <hiexpo> Culiforge, you got tha on lucid ?
[10:24] <Culiforge> hiexpo: yes
[10:24] <hiexpo> Culiforge, wow one sec
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm, i just got something strange happen when i restarted
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://pastie.org/3540106
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> those were the errors that popped up on screen
[10:25] <hiexpo> Culiforge, tryagain ?
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> along with some other information that wasnt error
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> and the machine wouldnt shut down properly
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> had to press power button
[10:25] <Culiforge> hiexpo: try what again?
[10:26] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sudo apt-get update mayveserver wasbroke
[10:27] <Culiforge> hiexpo: nope, same
[10:28] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sorry tab is lite here
[10:28] <hiexpo> Culiforge, do you get an errror on how to fix ?
[10:29] <Culiforge> hiexpo: no, but tried -f install with no luck
[10:29] <Culiforge> hiexpo: remove purge reinstall, no luck either
[10:30] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:30] <precubcr> please, any repositoris  for BT 4 R2 that work ? need to download cpyrit and more ...
[10:31] <ndkelly> Does anyone have experience with Cairo-Dock on a netbook?
[10:31] <Culiforge> hiexpo: no sir, same status 255
[10:31] <Pici> Culiforge: koha-common doesn't appear to be in the repositories, it sounds like whomever is providing the package may need to fix this error.
[10:32] <MagePsycho> how to create patch file so that we can apply patch
[10:32] <hiexpo> wow Culiforge i just did and update with 10.04 > something happened with your repos
[10:33] <Culiforge> hiexpo: something.. like evil gnomes? :)
[10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
[10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> does anyone have any idea about the problem i posted a bit further above?
[10:35] <Guest79362> Hell everyone, I need some help in determining tape drive utilization, is there any command, tool through which we can determine how much tape (space) has been used on tape drive and how much is still free
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> what on earth is a tape drive
[10:35] <angel282> Hello, Does anyone know how I can install zend optimizer on ubuntu 10.04 with php 5.3? (cant get it to work)
[10:36] <Guest79362> I just want to determine Free Space on Tape
[10:37] <ndkelly> Is there any news on how well 12.04 will perform on a 1.6GHz Atom netbook?
[10:39] <fairuz> Is it normal that just after rebooting, I just have 1.1Gb free memory out of 2GB? What takes so much memory? Thanks
[10:40] <ndkelly> fairuz, Are you using unity?
[10:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> fairuz, you can see processes running by doing ps -eax
[10:40] <fairuz> Ubuntu 11.04. Gnome classic.
[10:42] <fairuz> WhereIsMySpoon: I have something like 220 processes right now
[10:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> fairuz, look at the top 10 then
[10:44] <psyclone18723986> I am having problems with video playback in 11.10
[10:45] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, what hardware are you running, and what seems to be the issue?
[10:46] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : I am not sure what the hardware is can't i run a grep command>
[10:47] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Alright, is it a netbook/laptop/desktop for starters/
[10:48] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : it is a desktop
[10:48] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : a dell
[10:49] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, What are the issues you're facing? Is it streaming online video? Or local content.
[10:49] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : both streaming and local is as if the frames are skipping or something its not playing smoothly
[10:50] <luxius> yay, I started up on xubuntu, changed desktop @ login screen as suggested - this desktop rocks!
[10:50] <luxius> But now I can't access my home dir
[10:50] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Sounds like a driver/codec issue to me. Have you updated your graphics drivers recently/
[10:50] <luxius> Error stating file '/home/luxius/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[10:51] <ndkelly> luxius, Glad you could boot properly.
[10:52] <luxius> ndkelly, do you know what that error message means? Why I can't access my home dir?
[10:52] <luxius> lost+found isn't accessible either
[10:53] <ndkelly> luxius, Not too sure on that one, I haven't had chance to learn the Linux file system well enough yet. sorry.
[10:53] <luxius> okay
[10:53] <ndkelly> I'm sure someone around here can help though.
[10:54] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : no i have not, how do i go about doing so
[10:54] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Are you using Unity or Gnome?
[10:54] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i believe its gnome
[10:55] <cancer> I have installed nvidia-current and then nvidia-current-updates but nothing happend. can't increase resolution
[10:55] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and video playback was fine in 11.04
[10:55] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers.
[10:55] <luxius> where do I find a terminal in xubuntu?
[10:55] <ndkelly> luxius, Right click on the desktop.
[10:56] <cancer> using kubuntu
[10:56] <luxius> psyclone18723986, have you tried VLC?
[10:56] <psyclone18723986> luxius : yes
[10:58] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, what media player do you use?
[10:59] <luxius> pfifo, VLC
[10:59] <luxius> once you've tried VLC there is no other media player
[10:59] <psyclone18723986> pfifo : i usualy use vlc
[10:59] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i cant find hardware drivers
[11:00] <luxius> psyclone18723986, which card to you have?
[11:00] <psyclone18723986> luxius : i am not sure what my video card is
[11:01] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, in vlc goto Prefrences -> Video and change the output tab to different settings, SDL,GL and X11 work well for me, try them all until you find something useful. You need to close vlc for changes to take effect
[11:01] <psyclone18723986> pfifo : ok
[11:02] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, you may also want to try with combinations of accelerated video output toggled on and off
[11:02] <MrHarptastic> Hey guys
[11:03] <MrHarptastic> Summing it up. What is linux best known for?
[11:04] <MrHarptastic> other than servers.
[11:04] <mosno> MrHarptastic, the lulz
[11:05] <pfifo> MrHarptastic, the difficulty in learning how to administrate the system
[11:05] <stimpie> MrHarptastic, linux is best know for being opensource if you want something different you are free to do so
[11:05] <ndkelly> MrHarptastic, That depends. best known for by whom?
[11:05] <MrHarptastic> I love options
[11:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> MrHarptastic, then linux is for you :)
[11:06] <MrHarptastic> :)
[11:06] <ndkelly> MrHarptastic, By the general population (what we refer to as 'normals') geeks in basements.
[11:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> as long as you dont mind a challenge at points
[11:06] <MrHarptastic> << Geek in spare room. Does that count?
[11:06] <luxius> oooh ... lspci shows all hardware, nice command to know
[11:06] <ndkelly> Yes. Also, i think this should possibly be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <mi3> MrHarptastic linux is free as in beer [wait you wont get beer] :) should I say free as in freedom.........
[11:06] <mosno> MrHarptastic, if you want to really taste Linux, install a source-based distro on a spare PC :)
[11:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> lsusb shows all usb devices
[11:07] <pfifo> luxius, lshw
[11:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i think is bugged atm
[11:07] <MrHarptastic> I've got a spare dell lying around. I've been thinking about doing something linuxie to it
[11:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> do eet.
[11:07] <mi3> hehe
[11:07] <MrHarptastic> source-based distro you say?
[11:07] <ndkelly> Yes, do it. Installing Linux on my spare PCs helped me learn a new OS.
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> MrHarptastic  what's keeping you?
[11:08] <luxius> wow, lshw is verbose indeed
[11:08] <MrHarptastic> you mean the lack of GUI i presume..lol
[11:08] <ndkelly> If you really want a challenge, install gentoo or suicide linux.
[11:08] <mosno> MrHarptastic, i mean one where you compile the executables from source
[11:08] <mosno> MrHarptastic, like LFS or Gentoo
[11:08] <MrHarptastic> ahh. I've been doing that with this one..lol
[11:09] <mosno> MrHarptastic, it'll help with your Ubuntu skillz :)
[11:09] <MrHarptastic> I didn't know you could actually apt-get..lol
[11:09] <pfifo> suicide linux?
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> MrHarptastic, doh
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[11:09] <MrHarptastic> I was ./configure, make , make install...... etc et
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[11:09] <ndkelly> pfifo, Basically, if you make a spelling mistake or anything in console. Your drive is wiped.
[11:10] <MrHarptastic> and lots of tearms and hurting knuckles
[11:10] <luxius> MrHarptastic, here's a tip from one Windoze user to another: Use Debian (Ubuntu is built on Debian) if you consider a linux distro. Debian has a tight package system that makes sure all dependencies are installed and cleans up drivers not needed.
[11:10] <mosno> luxius, "cleans up drivers not needed"?
[11:10] <ndkelly> mosno, I think he meant dependencies.
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> although if you want ubuntu, use 11.04 or earlier
[11:10] <luxius> well, how else can you describe it to a non-linux user? :D
[11:10] <luxius> libraries
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> or use xubuntu
[11:10] <luxius> libs
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> at least imo
[11:11] <luxius> xubuntu > ubuntu
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> im pretty sure this is kinda offtopic though
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> I'm on the most current U. what's wrong  after .04
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> ?
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome3/unity
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> ahhh
[11:11] <ndkelly> i'm still on 10.04.
[11:11] <mosno> gnome3 > unity
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> only because it's less bad, mosno
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhow
[11:11] <upset> ndkelly: And that's why I know you're smarter than the rest of us
[11:11] <mosno> WhereIsMySpoon, that doesn't invalidate my assertion :P
[11:12] <MrHarptastic> well, I like doing things from scratch. learning a bit of src compilation via configs and makes I think was a good experience for my first few days
[11:12] <luxius> MrHarptastic, then you should install a clean Debian
[11:12] <pfifo> ndkelly, im going to make a suicide linux livecd
[11:13] <ndkelly> upset, How so?
[11:13] <ndkelly> pfifo, Good luck.
[11:13]  * mosno installed a dirty Debian once
[11:13] <MrHarptastic> *wipes off his debian.
[11:13] <MrHarptastic> it was dirty..lol
[11:13] <upset> ndkelly: Because you actually stick with the LTS.
[11:13] <mosno> debian is pretty sweet, but you gotta roll up your sleeves a bit
[11:13] <luxius> Ubuntu is a dirty Debian -.-
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> dirty dirty debains.....
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> debian*...
[11:14] <upset> Why are we hating on debians?
[11:14] <ndkelly> upset, I'll probably stick with this one when 12.04 is stable too. Purely for performance reasons on my netbook.
[11:14] <mosno> we're not, Debian is awesome
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> I don't even know what a debian is.. (reaches for google)
[11:14] <mosno> Debian generally rocks Ubuntu, except for certain use cases
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> !debian
[11:15] <ndkelly> currently burning a 12.04 live cd though. Just to try it on my desktop.
[11:15] <luxius> I remember ages ago when I compiled a kernel from "scratch" ... fun times
[11:15] <edgars> 12.04 gives me extra 2h of battery time
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i doubt it, edgars
[11:16] <upset> ndkelly: :\ That's a fantastic reason. I was hoping to improve performance on 12.04, since even Unity2d has bogged me down a bit. I think I'll do what I should have done before and switch to xfce with dockbarx or plank when it's ready
[11:16] <edgars> but it dose
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i doubt it is actually 12.04 as opposted to 11.10
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i instead posit that its just you dont have all the crap you installed with 11.10
[11:16] <MrHarptastic> The only thing I don't like about src compilation is all the errors... I'm still learning about these angry little files with "lib" on the front of them...lol
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless they did something amaizng with 12.04
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> amazing
[11:16] <mosno> MrHarptastic, it definitely takes more time/patience
[11:16] <ndkelly> upset, I may try 12.04, and if it performs poorly, i'll reinstall 10.04 from backup. Regardless, i'll be sticking with gnome2.
[11:17] <ndkelly> or at least not unity.
[11:17] <upset> WhereIsMySpoon: Atareao said it was a little springier.
[11:17] <luxius> WhereIsMySpoon, http://www.ubuntu.com/ specifically says 12.04 is in BETA, why the doubt? =)
[11:17] <edgars> WhereIsMySpoon, they did somthing with the kernel + i discovered laptop tools
[11:17] <mosno> MrHarptastic, i'm using Ubuntu as a temporary platform while I build up a system from source in my spare time
[11:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> well, maybe im wrong
[11:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
[11:17] <mosno> MrHarptastic, but who knows, 12.04 might impress me ;)
[11:17] <ponrajuganesh> I need to represent the data command out as "YYYYMMDDHHMMSS" - how to do that
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> 12.04 of?
[11:18] <luxius> Ubuntu
[11:18] <mosno> Ubuntu, of course
[11:18] <edgars> idk but yesterday i used it from approximately  for 6h
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> Ubuntu? I think I missed something..
[11:18] <edgars> usualy i get 4
[11:18] <gvo> ponrajuganesh: where?
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> ok
[11:18] <upset> ndkelly: I'm a sucker for interesting environments. I might use gnome3 if it gets its kinks worked out. It's actually pretty responsive for me.
[11:18] <ponrajuganesh> in ubuntu terminal for the shell processing gvo
[11:18] <llutz> ponrajuganesh: "man date" read about Format-Controls
[11:18] <luxius> MrHarptastic, never mind, 12.04 is beta, don't use beta unless you are a hardcore linux user
[11:19] <MrHarptastic> I'm always hardcore.. Just a newbie-hardcore-linux-user..
[11:19] <MrHarptastic> bahaha
[11:19] <ndkelly> upset, I think i may try it on a desktop if, like you say the kinks are fixed.
[11:19] <upset> ndkelly: Zeitgheist is just the worst thing ever, though. As someone who has been using Unity 2d for like 7 months, I can tell you that the home button thing is a pain.
[11:19] <mosno> upset, yeah, it's a ton faster than 11.10 unity
[11:20] <ndkelly> upset, Zeitgheist? I'm not familiar with it.
[11:20] <luxius> For me unity just keeps crashing windows.
[11:20] <MrHarptastic> I usually dig  into projects like a dieting woman in a bag of rice cakes..
[11:20] <luxius> randomly
[11:20] <edgars> MrHarptastic Me too :D newbie-hardcore-linux-user
[11:20] <mosno> upset, at least it is on my  Pentium T2080 with 2GB RAM and 5200RPM HDD
[11:21] <mosno> not to mention Intel 945 graphics
[11:21] <upset> ndkelly: Zeitgheist is that thing they use to log activity so you can search for files and applications. It totally sucks, and makes finding anything really difficult. I'm all for quick access, but not if it's broken, and ESPECIALLY not if it hinders me from regular browsing.
[11:21] <mosno> also, gnome shell is far more usable imho
[11:21] <mosno> i can't think of a single thing unity does better
[11:21] <MrHarptastic> so far I'm liking linux. I feel like I'm actually doing something versus Bill Gates holding my hand through windowsland allowing me to scratch-and-sniff samples..
[11:22] <mosno> except pwn my resources
[11:22] <luxius> word, MrHarp
[11:22] <upset> mosno: It's that much faster? Jeez, I wish I had just seen if the installer would finish.
[11:22] <mosno> it really is
[11:22] <upset> Instead I'm stuck here at 5 in the morning with two computers on my lap
[11:22]  * luxius switched to xubuntu today, can confirm it's better than unity/unity2d
[11:22] <ndkelly> upset, I think they just tried to over-complicate things with unity. By failing to simplify them
[11:22] <mosno> MrHarptastic, imma let you finish, but notepad.exe is the best editor of all time!
[11:23] <MrHarptastic> yes, I would agree..lol I've edited a lot of config files on notepad.exe...haha
[11:23] <mosno> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/kanye-interrupts-imma-let-you-finish
[11:23] <luxius> but what about the Ubuntu Software Center? It's soooo sloooow and it often crashes ... what's up?
[11:23] <ndkelly> mosno, If you having code problems i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a glitch aint one.
[11:23] <mosno> haha
[11:23] <mosno> i remember that image
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> didn't like unity or xubuntu, using ubuntu classic atm
[11:24] <mosno> ndkelly, http://www.buzzfeed.com/conors3/99-problems-but-a-glitch-aint-one-1pjk
[11:24] <upset> ndkelly: They caught on to something with the idea of access. I can't switch back to firefox even though I need it to view some sites because chromium's address bar is so smart. It always knows what I want to do.
[11:24] <mosno> ah, yes, xfce. great until it does something really badly, like the battery status notification
[11:25] <mosno> hmm, i suppose i could say that about every DE
[11:25] <ndkelly> upset, As in, using the address bar as a search bar? Also, I think unity will work really well on say, a tablet. When that happens. Just not for a desktop.
[11:25] <upset> mosno: Oh jeez. Don't scare me, I'm trying to switch. Maybe I should go back to gnome2
[11:25] <mosno> i don't see how unity is a tablet interface
[11:25] <mosno> i think that was just some kool aid
[11:25] <mosno> upset, windowmaker
[11:25] <mosno> :D
[11:25] <upset> ndkelly: I have a tablet! It's a tablet netbook. It totally sucks.
[11:25] <mosno> linux desktop hackers should drop everything and work on gnustep
[11:25] <upset> windowmaker?
[11:26] <MrHarptastic> omg, mosno.. that picture is priceless.
[11:26] <mosno> it is the DE with the most promice
[11:26] <ndkelly> upset, Is it the Transformer per chance?
[11:26] <mosno> promise*
[11:26] <cosmic_> help
[11:26] <upset> Also lol@ Imma let you finish
[11:26] <cosmic_> libpulse-simple.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[11:26] <mosno> but nobody cares about it because they're prejudiced against objC or something
[11:26] <upset> ndkelly: What?
[11:26] <cosmic_> ubuntu 12.04
[11:26] <mosno> sigh
[11:26] <ndkelly> upset, Your tablet/netbook.
[11:26] <mosno> ironically, canonical and gnome are trying to copy OS X
[11:26] <mosno> but gnustep is tha bomb on that yo
[11:26] <mosno> sigh
[11:26] <mosno> if only i was elite
[11:27] <mosno> i could hack you up a dream gnustep desktop
[11:27] <mosno> ;)
[11:27] <upset> ndkelly: The screen itself works fine, if that's what you're asking. It's just a pain in the ass to use.
[11:27] <luxius> After I change file manager from Thunar to Nautilus do I then have to restart my x11 session?
[11:27] <ndkelly> upset, Ah. It took me a good while to become accustomed to the 1024*600 display.
[11:27] <ponrajuganesh> date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S'  this is it guys
[11:27] <ndkelly> Can't stand it with windows 7 though, so i removed it.
[11:27] <Kaltiz> How do you make boot settings permanent?
[11:28] <ndkelly> And booting xp from a usb proved to be more effort than i cared to put up with.
[11:28] <upset> ndkelly: Nothing changes just because I'm using a tablet screen. The way it handles it, almost every program gets confused because every touch is a continuous click and so everything looks like a single stroke.
[11:28] <ndkelly> upset, Ah, i see what you mean. The machine i use at work is similar. Although, that's resistive *shudder*
[11:29] <Kaltiz> also
[11:29] <luxius> After I change file manager from Thunar to Nautilus do I then have to restart my x11 session?
[11:29] <Kaltiz> is there a way to start unity from the command line?
[11:29] <upset> ndkelly: Me too, a little bit. But I love the portability and the small keyboard. Also, have you tried Windows 8? I'm curious about it.
[11:29] <ndkelly> luxius, yes.
[11:29] <mosno> riddle me this, #ubuntu -- is there a daemon/service that detects when i plug/unplug a VGA monitor on my laptop and adjusts which display it's outputting to automatically?
[11:29] <luxius> brb
[11:29] <mosno> because it's sucky having to go into display properties and do it manually
[11:29] <MrHarptastic> Can you import windows files and play with the src for them to work on linux?
[11:29] <ndkelly> upset, Not yet, I haven't been all that bothered by it. It took me about 18 months after 7 came out to switch from XP. Never bothered with vista.
[11:29] <upset> ndkelly: Resistive is god-tier, nobody knows. I have pressure sensitivity! Using my finger would be terrible. What am I, five? I need precision, brother.
[11:30] <TLoFP-BOOK> When I copy things to my SD card it seems to copy quite fast but then hang, (no progress, no disk usage), then after some time it copies again and hangs again, and then repeats. Is this normal? Is there a buffer somewhere whose write performance I am actually seeing?
[11:30] <ndkelly> upset, If my screen at work were capacitive, it would be hell for what i do.
[11:31] <upset> ndkelly: Well, it's pretty powerful and efficient. It can run perfectly without modification on a smartphone, and evidently they've been gearing themselves towards some kind of linuxy model.
[11:31] <upset> ndkelly: What is it you do, if you don't mind me asking?
[11:31] <ndkelly> upset, Yeah, i think for a phone it will work really well. Same for a tablet, but a desktop? no way.
[11:31] <ndkelly> upset, I'm a lighting designer.
[11:32] <luxius> hmm, changed to Nautilus (as was file manager in unity2d) but I still can't access my home dir.
[11:32] <luxius> Error stating file '/home/luxius/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[11:32] <Kaltiz> Anyone not know? ):
[11:32] <luxius> works fine in a terminal
[11:32] <ndkelly> luxius, have you tried it with root privelages/
[11:32] <upset> ndkelly: I don't know much about its environment. I just know it does some crazy stuff, and it comes with some kind of ubuntu-like appstore and they've released several version for free
[11:32] <luxius> I'm not logging on x11 as root xD
[11:33] <upset> ndkelly: Also, interesting job. I wonder how you got into linux, of all things.
[11:33] <ndkelly> upset, I might dabble in W8 if i get the time/chance. I've always been tech headed, and Linux was the final frontier for me. Only installed it about a month ago.
[11:34] <luxius> wait, it's still Thunar being used although I changed it in Preferred Applications
[11:34] <upset> ndkelly: No way! Now I feel so dumb and behind... Freaking out over my partition table and stuff.
[11:35] <luxius> I think I'm rebooting the machine instead ... o/
[11:35] <jack> ndkelly: you'll hate win8
[11:35] <werder> luxius: you don't need to start x as root, just "sudo nautilus"
[11:35] <luxius> werder, thanks, good tip
[11:35] <jack> it's no better than v7 was
[11:35] <luxius> but I'll reboot, brb
[11:35] <ndkelly> jack, quite possibly. That's why i haven't been following it in the media.
[11:35] <upset> jack: You've tried it? Did you look at the developer version or the consumer which just came out?
[11:35] <ubuntu> why would ubuntu freeze trying it on cd
[11:36] <jack> upset: i think it was the consumer build
[11:36] <ndkelly> upset, Hah, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm a fast learner. i pick things up pretty quickly, and i log into IRC so i can both help out and learn more myself.
[11:36] <upset> I just heard about it from my boyfriend, and thought it sounded totally nuts. He wants to try it too.
[11:36] <MrHarptastic> tilda -- You make everything better...
[11:36] <Kaltiz> hello?
[11:36] <MrHarptastic> lol
[11:36] <upset> ndkelly: Ah, so you probably just did a google search to find the gksu thing
[11:36] <upset> Kaltiz: Hello!
[11:37] <ubuntu> any body
[11:37] <Kaltiz> :O
[11:37] <ndkelly> upset, I knew of the command, i just couldn't remember the exact command.
[11:37] <gvo> ubuntu: bad cd?
[11:37] <LJ1> how can i use the debian-sys-maint user for database backup? i dont see the --defauls-file option in mysqldump?
[11:37] <ubuntu> nope
[11:37] <Kaltiz> I don't have the unity side bar and top bar anymore ideas?
[11:37] <ndkelly> upset, But now i do know, and therefore both helped and learned at the same time.
[11:37] <upset> ndkelly: Well, I'm pretty sure live iso's used to just come with repair utilities, but now it kind of sucks.
[11:38] <upset> ndkelly: Smart!
[11:38] <ubuntu> this pc has no hard drive or os its all on the ubuntu disk
[11:38] <upset> ndkelly: I like your style. Learning by doing.
[11:38] <gvo> LJ1: I wasn't aware that debian-sys-maint was used for that purpose.
[11:38] <LJ1> gvo: it has the correct database persmissions
[11:39] <gvo> Sure does
[11:39] <gvo> But that's not its purpose.
[11:39] <LJ1> gvo: could you explain what the purpose is then?
[11:40] <gvo> LJ1: http://serverfault.com/questions/9948/what-is-the-debian-sys-maint-mysql-user-and-more
[11:40] <upset> ndkelly: So how did you get to be so interested in tech? All the artists and designers I know freak out when they have to think about their computer.
[11:40] <ubuntu> any idea why my setup freezes
[11:40] <upset> nkelly: As a matter of fact, most simply fuss when it does something they don't understand.
[11:41] <gvo> ubuntu: maybe it doesn't like your display card.
[11:41] <gvo> ubuntu: what computer?
[11:42] <LJ1> gvo: thanks..
[11:42] <ubuntu> where can i get software that examines the ubuntu kernel every 5 min for errors and haker attacks like trip wire
[11:42] <upset> Ubuntu: Woah
[11:43] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Im using recordmydesktop (ogv) so that i can record sound from my mic too. The sound is fine but the video is very jittery... looks like a single frame a second...
[11:43] <gvo> ubuntu what's wrong with tripwire
[11:43] <hazamonzo> recoding to avi is fine but i don't get sound with that
[11:43] <hazamonzo> any pointers?
[11:43] <ubuntu> im not getting good info on trip wire
[11:43] <ndkelly> upset, Funnily enough, it started in Y6 when i made a powerpoint presentation
[11:43] <ubuntu> i went to the website and get get any good info on it
[11:44] <gvo> ubuntu http://sourceforge.net/projects/tripwire/
[11:44] <ndkelly> upset, Since then, it grew into a passion. Now it's all 'fix my computer!' by everyone i know.
[11:44] <ubuntu> what exacly does tripwire do
[11:45] <upset> ndkelly: A single ppt and you're hooked? I don't understand it. You're a strange person, for sure.
[11:45] <luxius> yay, switching back to Nautilus fixed my problem, I now have access to ~/ through the GUI file manager
[11:45] <ubuntu> in your opinion
[11:45] <ndkelly> upset, I now do graphic design and light web development. I'm expanding my programming and web languages though.
[11:45] <ndkelly> upset, strange is good.
[11:45] <gvo> ubuntu http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8758
[11:46] <luxius> it also changed my desktop image back to the previous one, which is a shame, I like the XFCE mouse ... :/
[11:46] <sacarlson> ubuntu as far as I know tripwire will alarm when any system files that you don't expect to change hapen to get modified
[11:46] <upset> ndkelly: That's all pretty admirable. I feel like I stumbled into linux without knowing much. Ubuntu lets you do that, I guess. But now people think I'm some kind of nerd chick.
[11:46] <luxius> can anyone here argue which is better? Nautilus or Thunar?
[11:46] <a---Turk-Kaya> aa
[11:47] <auronandace> luxius: whichever you prefer
[11:47] <upset> luxius: Don't ask those kinds of questions. It depends on user needs, of course
[11:47] <ndkelly> upset, I didn't know anything other than Windows until i installed OS X on my netbook, purely to learn it. Same with Linux. I'm going to stick with Ubuntu for a while, then move on to more interesting distros. Possibly Arch.
[11:47] <gvo> auronandace: +1
[11:47] <luxius> you're right, I'm sorry ... I'll try to rephrase my question
[11:47] <ndkelly> luxius, 'Better' is subjective. It's all opinion based.
[11:47] <luxius> Well, I was asking for opinions xD
[11:48] <sattu94> luxius: I use PCMANFM
[11:48] <ubuntu> anybody got any inside info on tripwire
[11:48] <luxius> I guess what I want to know is how deep a file manager's claws dig ...
[11:48] <ubuntu> or know the proper channel
[11:49] <Pirsch> Hi all. I'm running 11.10. When I put a video on my mp4 player, it doesn't work. If I use Windows 7 to put the file on the mp4 player, it works. I've done the medibuntu thing and have had no luck.
[11:49] <upset> ndkelly: Woahoho, you installed OS X on your netbook for the lulz? You really are a weird guy. I've been interested in other distros too, I'm just afraid of straying because I feel like Ubuntu is too well supported and has such a large community that I wouldn't be satisfied.
[11:49] <sattu94> Nautilus does a lot more than managing files. So I prefer Pcmanfm because it sticks to managing files and nothing else.
[11:49] <upset> luxius: What does that even mean?
[11:50] <ndkelly> upset, More a mixture of curiosity and performance really. the way i learn best is by sitting down with something and just doing it. thus the reason i was able to help out a little today
[11:50] <edgars> Pirsch the same video?
[11:50] <Pirsch> Yes, same vid
[11:50] <konza> Hi all, I have a small doubt.. What is linux IPF
[11:51] <upset> ndkelly: Again, that's pretty awesome. You're all moxy.
[11:51] <Pirsch> In PCLOS I can make it work after installing task-multimedia but I've never had luck with ubuntu
[11:51] <Pirsch> The thing is, I want to use ubuntu and only ubuntu
[11:51] <ndkelly> upset, I'm not sure what that means. It must be a localism from where you are!
[11:51] <sacarlson> ubuntu: it's a simple setup just point the config at stuf you don't expect to change like /bin /sbin/ /usr/bin /usr/sbin  some stuf in /etc
[11:51] <luxius> upset, well, I don't know what a file manager does, except managing files in a GUI? Maybe that's far from the truth, even ...
[11:52] <edgars> Pirsch when the player is connected is it shown as a mass storage or somthing else
[11:52] <Pirsch> yes
[11:52] <luxius> upset, I was surprised to see my desktop background image change as I changed file manager ...
[11:52] <upset> ndkelly: Moxy? It's from 1930s American movies. Where are you?
[11:52] <ndkelly> upset, the UK.
[11:52] <luxius> upset, so I guess a file manager in linux is somewhat like explorer.exe in Windows?
[11:52] <edgars> Pirsch and you can play the video in ubuntu
[11:52] <upset> luxius: Yeah, that's pretty weird. I'm too vanilla to know why though.
[11:52] <Pirsch> yes
[11:53] <ndkelly> upset, Are you sure it wasn't because you changed your DE as a whole?
[11:53] <upset> luxius: I mean, maybe. Probably. I don't know, actually
[11:53] <auronandace> luxius: explorer in windows if far more entrenched than any linux equivilents
[11:53] <upset> ndkelly: Wrong person
[11:54] <Pirsch> edgars, I've tied using other machines but it makes no difference. Something must get lost in the codecs or something. I'm too noobish to figure this one out. :)
[11:54] <ndkelly> upset, Now i'm confused. hah.
[11:54] <edgars> Pirsch it's wierd it is just a file transfer so it should work
[11:54] <upset> auronandace: Yeah, doesn't it also control the toolbar for some reason?
[11:54] <auronandace> luxius: like sattu94 said, a file manager should just manage files
[11:54] <Pirsch> edgars, yes, that's what I think
[11:54] <samosa> Has anyone got amd catalyst to work / run on hybird hardware ( Intel igp + ati gpu)  ?
[11:54] <upset> ndkelly: I didn't say anything about changing DEs, except that I was considering it
[11:55] <Pirsch> Believe it or not, I've had this problem for over a year. Been here about 10 times hoping to find an answer
[11:55] <ndkelly> upset, that was meant for luxius I'm just in the habit of replying to you now. Sorry!
[11:55] <Pirsch> edgars, I wish I could just install task-multimedia
[11:55] <upset> auronandace: That's an opinion if I ever did see one
[11:55] <luxius> auronandace, thanks for clarification, I do know explorer.exe is a lot more than a file manager, just trying to comprehend xD
[11:55] <upset> ndkelly: np
[11:55] <Pirsch> but that's for PCLOS
[11:56] <sattu94> luxius: Yes, Nautilys is the only File Manager I know that also sets up your Desktop Manager..
[11:56] <sattu94> s/Manager/Background/
[11:56] <luxius> okay, so I read up a bit on Thunar and PCMANFC, seems they are both more lightweight and scalable than Nautilus
[11:57] <ndkelly> upset, I looked up 'moxy' so i'm going to take it as a compliment. Haha.
[11:57] <sattu94> luxius: Kinda, I use both alternatively.
[11:57] <edgars> Pirsch: what dose it do?
[11:58] <upset> ndkelly: I can't believe you'd never heard the word
[11:58] <MrHarptastic> here's a coconut-scratcher.... I can haz thumbnails in file manager? (select file)
[11:58] <upset> ndkelly: Guess you felt like I did when I tried to watch Jeeves and Wooster
[11:58] <Pirsch> edgars, either it will say "Unsupported format" or if it does play it's broken and you cannot even tell what the pic is.
[11:59] <ndkelly> upset, Haha. possibly.
[11:59] <Pirsch> It also sounds like a needle being dragged across a record.
[11:59] <MrHarptastic> !thumbnail
[12:00] <auronandace> !find thumbnail | MrHarptastic
[12:00] <upset> Geez. I can't believe I'm taking so long just so I don't have to redownload the Legend of Zelda animated series.
[12:00] <sacarlson> MrHarptastic: I think when I set nautilus in icon mode it will display thumbnails if the file is a jpg or other pic file
[12:00] <Pirsch> edgars, I've tried using WinFF to reformat and try different types of formats. No luck
[12:01] <MrHarptastic> ok. thanks
[12:02] <edgars> Pirsch, only thing i could find
[12:03] <edgars> Pirsch sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg gxine mencoder mpeg2dec vorbis-tools id3v2 mpg321 mpg123 libflac++6 ffmpeg totem-mozilla icedax tagtool easytag id3tool lame nautilus-script-audio-convert libmad0 libjpeg-progs flac faac faad sox ffmpeg2theora libmpeg2-4 uudeview flac libmpeg3-1 mpeg3-utils mpegdemux liba52-0.7.4-dev libquicktime2
[12:04] <luxius> Pirsch, what are you trying to play?
[12:04] <edgars> Pirsch, g2g good luck by
[12:05] <Pirsch> Ok, thx edgars. Luxius, I just cannot get any video to play on my mp4 player (Android) when I transfer using Ubuntu. Win7 and PCLOS are no problem
[12:06] <Pirsch> edgar's plan is installing right now
[12:06] <luxius> Pirsch, which gizmo are you talking about? File format? Transfer mode?
[12:06] <Pirsch> Ok, let's see
[12:06] <luxius> yeah, edgar had you install a lot of codecs, afaik
[12:06] <luxius> I'm almost certain it won't help, but hey ... give it a try ^^
[12:07] <luxius> Pirsch, those codecs will resolve playback on the box, but transfering is another issue
[12:07] <upset> ndkelly: To Pangolin's credit, it has been running super quickly even though it's Unity3d from a live drive.
[12:07] <ndkelly> upset, I was just thinking the same. I'm booted into a liveCD on my desktop.
[12:08] <sacarlson> Pirsch: my guess is the files must get corrupted maybe in file transfer.  what method of file transfer do you used?
[12:08] <upset> ndkelly: I don't recommend installing it. :|
[12:08] <AdvoWork> anyone know why/if/how its possible to change Chrome so that it will print background colours. It appears that there is no option to do this?
[12:08] <ndkelly> upset, No intention of doing. I use my main desktop for Gaming, and Design work.
[12:09] <suj> need help in getting ubuntu
[12:09] <Pirsch> sacarlson, I just drag and drop
[12:09] <ndkelly> upset, I have another computer for using as a sandbox to play with distros on.
[12:09] <sacarlson> Pirsch: over usb?  wifi ?  bluetooth????
[12:09] <Pirsch> usb
[12:09] <luxius> suj, what kind of help? www.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <sacarlson> Pirsch: it's android why not use wifi?
[12:09] <suj> somebody please pass me the files for ubuntu
[12:10] <suj> i tired downloading t..
[12:10] <upset> ndkelly: Gaming? Oh, you are really cool.
[12:10] <luxius> suj, and?
[12:10] <Pirsch> I have to reboot. For some reason I just lost my mouse and keyboard. I'll be back
[12:10] <upset> ndkelly: Blegh. Got my files. No I can get ready for class while I wait for the startup disk creator.
[12:10] <suj> but it never downloaded completely
[12:10] <luxius> sacarlson, USB or WIFI, same deal if the transfer mode corrupts files
[12:10] <suj> than luxius for listenn to me
[12:11] <luxius> sacarlson, we'll need to know which gizmo he's using, etc.
[12:11] <ndkelly> upset, I say gaming, it's really just BF2 thesedays.
[12:11] <luxius> suj, well, you need the entire .ISO to finish downloading, then burn it on a CD (if that's the method you are using, which I recommend)
[12:11] <sacarlson> luxius: I'm not sure at times I've had trouble moving large files with nautilus so not sure why it happens at times
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: BF2? Battle frontier or something like that? I'm not much for first-person shooters.
[12:12] <sacarlson> luxius: oh and that was using samba,  it seems much better with sshfs over nautilus
[12:12] <ndkelly> upset, Battlefield.
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: Ha, I can barely handle Zelda 1
[12:12] <suj> i knw luxuis...but im not able to download the whole iso file due to some reason..it stops in between
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: Noted
[12:12] <luxius> sacarlson, lol samba ... no, seriously, if it's possible to avoid samba I would at all cost
[12:12] <zagibu> shooters *yawn*
[12:13] <sacarlson> luxius: well android supports samba so I'm not sure what he uses
[12:13] <luxius> suj, what is your transfer method? http? ftp?
[12:13] <upset> ndkelly: Oh God, gnome 2 is so much more efficient. ;_;
[12:13] <ndkelly> upset, Very true. That's why i like it so much.
[12:13] <suj> @luxius:http
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> ndkelly  +1
[12:13] <upset> ndkelly: Been using other netbook while I fix this
[12:13] <luxius> sacarlson, maybe that's it. Maybe he transfers with samba and it isn't correctly setup in linux? O.o
[12:14] <ndkelly> upset, What netbook is it/
[12:14] <luxius> sacarlson, I'm taking wild guesses
[12:14] <suj> i downloded it from their official site
[12:14] <luxius> suj, you should try with an FTP client. Which OS are you on?
[12:14] <suj> im havng a windows 7
[12:14] <sacarlson> luxius: until pirsch tries other method of transfer we won't have any clues
[12:14] <luxius> suj, browser?
[12:14] <upset> ndkelly: I'm definitely using some combination of lightweight everyday applications, gnome2 or xfce toolbar, synapse, and a good dock.
[12:14] <suj> chrome
[12:14] <upset> ndkelly: T101MT
[12:14] <zagibu> suj: proxy server?
[12:15] <luxius> suj, I believe it has an FTP client ...
[12:15] <ndkelly> upset, I've considered using Cairo-dock instead of the default bottom taskbar.
[12:15] <suj> @luxius:cud u direct me?
[12:15] <suj> FTP client?
[12:16] <upset> ndkelly: Meh on cairo. I like dockbarx because it's nice for window management.
[12:16] <ndkelly> upset, How's the performance with dockbarx on a 1.6 Atom?
[12:16] <luxius> suj, here's an even better option: get a torrent client (uTorrent)
[12:16] <luxius> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[12:17] <upset> ndkelly: Awesome. It just takes a few seconds to start, though it's not longer than unity-2d-launcher takes
[12:17] <ndkelly> upset, i'll install it now and see how i like it
[12:17] <ndkelly> upset, What's the package name/
[12:17] <upset> ndkelly: Plank is the most efficient thing I've seen, although it's an infant.
[12:18] <upset> ndkelly: There isn't one, it's a ppa
[12:18] <luxius> suj, what kind of CPU is in your computer?
[12:18] <upset> ndkelly: The most current info you can get on dockbarx is on their google plus page
[12:19] <ponrajuganesh> is there a substring version found in bash?
[12:19] <ponrajuganesh> is there a substring version found in bash?
[12:19] <ndkelly> upset, Currently installing from gnome-look.
[12:19] <upset> ndkelly: The elementary team has been chugging out some cool stuff in general.
[12:19] <suj> @luxius:im using a laptop
[12:19] <suj> windows 7
[12:19] <luxius> suj, if you press the Windows key + Pause/Break you get the System Properties (in Windows)
[12:20] <upset> ndkelly: For example, wingpanel is a neat concept and they have lots of other lightweight but effective and beautiful applications coming out.
[12:20] <luxius> suj, System Properties tells you which CPU you have
[12:20] <ndkelly> upset, I'll be sure to check those out, thank you.
[12:20] <luxius> suj, ie AMD/Intel and which architecture
[12:20] <suj> intel core duo
[12:21] <suj> 2ghz
[12:21] <upset> ndkelly: If you're interested in nifty things and know Spanish, check out Atareao's blog
[12:21] <suj> 32 bit
[12:21] <suj> 2.5gb RAM
[12:22] <luxius> suj, pretty sure that's 64-bit, so you'll need the AMD64 distribution
[12:22] <luxius> not need, but want
[12:22] <ndkelly> upset, I don't speak Spanish, however i may be able to translate the page with google.
[12:22] <auronandace> luxius: not all core duo's are 64bit
[12:22] <upset> ndkelly: Nah, don't bother. Webupd8 often grabs his programs.
[12:23] <sattu94> upset: or pipe Atareos blog through Google Translate ?
[12:23] <upset> sattu94:Gross, no. Seriously, just search for Atareao in Webupd8
[12:23] <suj> its not 64bt
[12:23] <luxius> auronandace, thanks
[12:24] <luxius> suj, well Windows might be 32-bit although the CPU is 64-bit
[12:24] <upset> Uuuugh I'm going to drink all the coffee ever
[12:24] <suj> ok
[12:24] <luxius> suj, you can get CPU-Z to check the entire CPU architecture
[12:24] <auronandace> luxius: no worries (i found out by personal experience with a t60, its the core 2 duos that are all 64bit) :)
[12:25] <suj> wer do u get tat now?
[12:25] <luxius> auronandace, hah, yeah, you're right - the core duos are pretty old :P
[12:25]  * mosno has a 32-bit only Core Duo as his fastest machine :)
[12:25] <upset> luxius: Everything is old after a few months. It's depressing :C
[12:25] <luxius> suj, google "CPU-Z download"
[12:26] <mosno> it's quick enough for a desktop PC
[12:26] <luxius> upset, what what? Evolution is depressing? xD
[12:26] <luxius> upset, I find human devolution depressing ... *sigh*
[12:26] <upset> luxius: Pshaw, using nonexistent science words where they don't even apply
[12:27] <mosno> it's blazing-fast on this gentoo-based liveusb system i've booted into actually
[12:27] <upset> luxius: Get with the program, people have always sucked.
[12:27] <Acegiak> does anyone know where there's a mirror of an iso with gma500 support built in?
[12:27] <mosno> xfce, midori web browser
[12:27] <mosno> <3
[12:27] <suj> ok im downloading that
[12:27] <luxius> upset, on another off-topic note: I am totally up to speed with the program. Human Civilisation OS needs to be upgraded to 2.0.
[12:27] <auronandace> upset: devolution is a valid word and more political than scientific
[12:28] <Myrtti> !offtopic | a reminder for everyone
[12:28] <upset> auronandance: Just because politicians make up a word does not make it valid.
[12:28] <luxius> evolution -> devolution -> revolution -> evolution -> ...
[12:28]  * luxius is a buddhist
[12:29] <auronandace> upset: please consider perchasing a dictionary
[12:29] <luxius> upset, try "define:devolution" in google ;)
[12:29] <Myrtti> could you please move the discussion over linguistics elsewhere
[12:29] <upset> Buddhist?!
[12:29] <upset> auronandace: You should ferst
[12:30] <jack> a) purchasing, b) first
[12:30] <luxius> Philologia <3 while I wait for suj
[12:30] <ndkelly> Installing xfce has installed a load of additional applications. So i now have duplicates.
[12:30] <ndkelly> Going to try and get rid and relog.
[12:31] <upset> jack: It was a joke, dude.
[12:31] <upset> jack: The e is on the other side of the keyboard from i
[12:31] <suj> i did
[12:31] <luxius> ndkelly, how can you get duplicates on a Debian foundation? O.o
[12:32] <luxius> suj, so you run it and got the entire CPU model?
[12:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[12:32] <suj> yes i did
[12:32] <suj> searching for the bit acc
[12:32] <upset> ndkelly: :\ I hate that. Maybe next time try xubuntu as a whole. Probably has some kind of metapackage which makes removal easier
[12:32] <root_> hello
[12:32] <luxius> suj, please paste the CPU information
[12:32] <luxius> should be at the top of CPU-Z
[12:34] <suj> im not gettin an option to copy?
[12:34] <luxius> no, just mark it with the mouse and do CTRL + C, suj
[12:34] <luxius> if possible
[12:35] <suj> nope
[12:35] <suj> not poss
[12:35] <luxius> suj, it isn't, just tried on my own Win7. Okay, tell me what it says in "Code Name".
[12:36] <suj> yonah
[12:36] <luxius> k, hang on
[12:37] <suj> ok
[12:38] <luxius> suj, it is a x86 CPU (32 bit): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonah_%28microprocessor%29'
[12:38] <luxius> I'll find you an FTP download link.
[12:38] <suj> yep
[12:38] <suj> ok
[12:38] <luxius> suj, do you have a DVD burner?
[12:39] <suj> i can write it to my usb
[12:39] <luxius> yes, but you can't boot from it directly
[12:40] <suj> yes u can acc
[12:40] <luxius> not unless you make it bootable (didn't work with my USB pen, had to write a CD)
[12:40] <suj> mine is bootable
[12:40] <suj> i have a cd 700mb
[12:41] <sacarlson> luxius: as long as suj: has a big enuf usb pen and his bios supports boot off usb
[12:41] <luxius> suj, I am asking because there is a choice between a 1.5GB iso and a 700MB iso
[12:41] <suj> hmmm...send the link for both
[12:42] <luxius> ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[12:43] <suj> i got 1.5gb
[12:43] <suj> i have kept it for download
[12:43] <sw0rdfish> uhhh
[12:44] <sw0rdfish> my cell phone isn't being detected when I connect via usb cable
[12:44] <luxius> suj, the 700MB iso (CD) is only AMD64 + Mac
[12:44] <suj> ok
[12:44] <ndkelly> Installing xfce proved to be more of an annoyance than a bonus.
[12:44] <suj> i will do with the 1.5 as of now
[12:44] <sacarlson> sw0rdfish: cell is an android?
[12:45] <suj> thanx a lot
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> no
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> nokia
[12:45] <luxius> ndkelly, that's probably because you need to fix some confs, once you get XFCE up and running I'm sure you'll like it =)
[12:45] <luxius> suj, np
[12:45] <ndkelly> luxius, I've removed it. Currently removing all the extras it installed and didn't remove when i uninstalled it.
[12:45] <suj> @luxius:
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> i think its the cell phone
[12:45] <ndkelly> I now have 2 instances of terminal.
[12:45] <suj> cya
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> i'm restarting it
[12:45] <suj> tc
[12:46] <luxius> suj, good luck o/
[12:46] <suj> thanx cya
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ndkelly  you can have two tabs, in stead of two instances
[12:46] <ndkelly> MonkeyDust, I mean, two terminal applications. I realise i worded that badly.
[12:46] <luxius> ndkelly, I'd remove ubuntu-desktop and then install xubuntu-desktop, but I'm not too sure if that's enough
[12:47] <ndkelly> luxius, I'm aiming to revert to how it was before. ie gnome2.
[12:47] <luxius> ndkelly, you chicken out already? ;)
[12:47] <sw0rdfish> yeah sacarlson it was the phone... it works now after restarting and its a nokia btw
[12:47] <auronandace> !gnome2 | ndkelly
[12:47] <luxius> !notunity
[12:48] <auronandace> ndkelly: xfce is likely your best alternative
[12:48] <ndkelly> luxius, Pretty much. I need my environment to look somewhat pretty, something that Gnome allwos me.
[12:48] <luxius> ndkelly, aim for Gnome3/xfce then
[12:49] <ubuntu_> Kvo staa maina :)
[12:49] <ndkelly> auronandace, I tried it for a while earlier today. But it's not very pleasing on the eyes. unless i just didn't play long enough to find suitable customizations.
[12:49] <ubuntu_> kak q katame kopeuetaaaaaaa ? :)
[12:50] <DJones> !bg | ubottu
[12:50] <auronandace> ndkelly: there aren't many pleasing themes for xfce in my opinion but it is functionally similar to gnome2
[12:50] <DJones> Grr, stupid me
[12:51] <ndkelly> auronandace, Gnome 2 was working fine, i was just exploring alternative options is all.
[12:51] <auronandace> ndkelly: my favourite theme so far for xfce is albatross
[12:52] <ndkelly> auronandace, My issue now is, removing the duplicate programs that xfce left behind. ie; terminal. But i can't find it in Software Centre, only the default Gnome terminal, which i wish to keep
[12:52] <luxius> how do I take a screen dump in X11/xubuntu ?
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, print screen button?
[12:52] <rhin0> print screen
[12:52] <luxius> yeah, doesn't work
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
[12:53] <rhin0> gnome-screenshot
[12:53] <luxius> that is weird, now it does work! >_<
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> :P
[12:53] <auronandace> ndkelly: sorry, i only use xfce so i've never needed to remove any of it
[12:53] <luxius> it just won't let me screen dump when I have the menu open
[12:54] <luxius> the uhm ... menu in top right corner, system menu or w/e you call it
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius - menu as in file/edit etc?
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[12:54] <luxius> top left corner*
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> i did wonder there ;)
[12:54] <luxius> well, actually, any menu!
[12:55] <dansku_> Hi, i made a distroupdate now my ubuntu is not working anymore, just inserted the live cd, how do i do a system repait?
[12:56] <antihc3> anyone know how to start unity with xinit -- :1.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> !work| dansku_
[12:57] <luxius> hehe, MonkeyDust, I wonder what you do when someone says "isn't functional any longer"? ^_^
[12:58] <ndkelly> Winner. Found a pastable terminal command to remove everything.
[12:58] <auronandace> antihc3: the service that starts x is gdm (pre- 11.10) or lightdm (11.10+)
[12:58] <ndkelly> Has anyone bought the ubuntu mouse/
[12:58] <ndkelly> Considering one for my netbook.
[12:59] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, yeah make sure it is fed or it gets belligerent. :)
[13:00] <ndkelly> Fyodorovna, Ha ha.
[13:01] <luxius> what happens if I paste this in shell? :(){ :|:& };:   <-- (please don't try!)
[13:01] <auronandace> !danger
[13:01] <luxius> thanks auronandace
[13:02] <scriptwarlock> luxius, that is no fun at all
[13:02] <luxius> well, that was probably my queue to quit IRC
[13:02] <luxius> scriptwarlock, your name is fitting indeed ;)
[13:02] <luxius> it's been a joy, catch you all on the flipside o/
[13:03] <dansku_> ubottu: sorry, it wont boot, when it try booting its on looking for network, doent find all network drived. so i guess a system restore would fix it
[13:03] <waxstone> what would that bash do?
[13:03] <antihc3> auronandace, thanks i will give that a run.
[13:05] <upset> Alright! Installed successfully! Yaaaay!
[13:05] <auronandace> !yay | upset
[13:05] <upset> Thanks, community! You're the best!
[13:05] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | auronandace
[13:06] <ndkelly> So i uninstalled xchat. Whilst using it.
[13:06] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, bummer reinstall.
[13:07] <ndkelly> Just did. Now recovering all my server details from this session.
[13:07] <mosno> ndkelly: your config should still be there
[13:07] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, cool, the files all stay in place.
[13:08] <ndkelly> I'll give it a shot
[13:08] <upset> Later, y'all. It's time for school.
[13:08] <upset> ndkelly: Thanks again. See you around!
[13:09] <ndkelly> Oh cool. Winner.
[13:09] <upset> ndkelly: Thanks again. See you around!
[13:09] <ndkelly> upset, Take care!
[13:10] <antihc3> dansku_, does your machine show the loading screen (even just the image)
[13:10] <varun06> sometime my application don't have top level menu bar in Ubuntu 11.10
[13:10] <varun06> anybody else face this issue
[13:10] <tumppu> is it on the top bar?
[13:10] <varun06> I have to log out and log in back to get that
[13:11] <samosa> Does anyone here have a laptop with hybird graphics (Intel igp + ati gpu)  ?
[13:11] <Fyodorovna> varun06, you have to click on the app to have it show.
[13:11] <waxstone> varun06: check if menu items ar at the top of the screen not the window
[13:11] <ikonia> samosa: I thought the hybrid was intel+nvidia, not intel+ati
[13:11] <varun06> I do that, it seems top level hide behind Ubuntu top level bar
[13:12] <Fyodorovna> varun06, when you open the dash are you getting all options?
[13:12] <varun06> yes
[13:12] <acybervortex> hi all, is it possible to have a system that downloads emails from my mail server, modifies the content based on some sort of preg match and then forwards it on based on a rule?
[13:13] <auronandace> ikonia: i'm not sure if he just means switchable
[13:13] <samosa> ikonia: name is irrelevant,  just Intel igp + ati gpu is important
[13:13] <samosa> Yes, switchable
[13:13] <ikonia> samosa: the name is relevent as ati/ndvia are very different
[13:13] <Fyodorovna> varun06, it takes some orientation probably, but it can be disconcerting, could be there is a problem though.
[13:14] <varun06> it is irritating, I mean you see the application there but no menu bar
[13:14] <sacarlson> acybervortex: there is a mail site ipipi.com that I think does that,  I'm sure you could write a script in ruby or others to do the same in linux
[13:14] <varun06> I have to close these apps from unity launcher
[13:14] <auronandace> samosa: switchable graphics doesn't really have good support under linux yet
[13:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> varun - are you talking about not having window bars in unity?
[13:14] <varun06> then log out, then I see them fine
[13:14] <varun06> yeah
[13:14] <waxstone> varun06: it is at the top of the monitor unless window is maximized
[13:15] <samosa> auronandace: yes, I'm finding that out right now ;-(
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats just part of unity
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows dont have title bars, its all at the top as wax says
[13:15] <waxstone> varrun06:that is a feature of unity
[13:15] <varun06> even in not full screen mode
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> correct varun
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> that's called "global menu"
[13:15] <varun06> I should see the bar if it is not maximized
[13:16] <samosa> auronandace: do you think it will ever be solved?
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> varun - the menu bar (i.e. with file, edit, help etc) is ALWAYS at the top of the screen
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> in unity
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and unmaximised windows dont have any sort of top bar, you have to press alt and click to drag them
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> its part of the, imo, horribleness of unity
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> but each to their own :)
[13:17] <Daekdroom> Unmaximized windows do have a top bar ^o)
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Daekdroom, at the top of the screen, yes
[13:17] <gagan662_> somebody help....!!!
[13:17] <Daekdroom> WhereIsMySpoon, I'm not talking about a menu
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan, ask the question
[13:17] <auronandace> samosa: given time perhaps but i'm rather doubtful (i think its windows technology and proprietry)
[13:17] <Daekdroom> They have a title bar with close/maximize/minimize buttons.
 Alt not necessary to drag
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> Odd, maybe when i installed it it was bugged or something
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont use it anyways
[13:18] <gagan662_> can someone listen to me?????????
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, ask your question
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> preferably with less question marks
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> :)
[13:19] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon <- lspci | grep VGA
[13:19] <gagan662_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[13:19] <shabbir> hi
[13:19] <konza> Hi all, how to upgrade an installed package using synaptic
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, ok?
[13:19] <sacarlson> waxstone: it can become nesisary to alt drag if the graphics is too big for the screen to see everything needed to operate the aplication at times
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> konza, use the update manager?
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> or do you mean a custom .deb package that you made and installed
[13:20] <zvacet> gagan662_:  do you need driver for it or what
[13:20] <gagan662_> whereismyspoon<- when i move window across desktop i get cpu 40%
[13:20] <konza> WhereIsMySpoon, i would like to use command
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> no idea konza sorry
[13:20] <Soulwinter> jemand da der von truecrypt ahnung hat?
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, sounds a bit much, you got the latest drivers and shizz? and are you using proprietry or open source ones
[13:21] <sacarlson> konza: just click the apps box if it has an upgrade available and hit apply
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> sacarlson, he wanted a command
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> not gui
[13:22] <Soulwinter> anyone there who knows good about truecrypt? :x
[13:22] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i used ati in ubuntu repository..
[13:22] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i used ati driver located in ubuntu repository..
[13:22] <sacarlson> WhereIsMySpoon: a command for synaptic?  it's a gui.  but equiv then would be just apt-get install appname ,  if an upgrade for that app is availible it will install it
[13:23] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i even tried latest catelyst from official ati site.but of no use..i got same problem...
[13:23] <Soulwinter> anyone there who knows good about truecrypt? :x
 Ahh or good to know! I use unity =)
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> sacarlson, oh yea duh lol ><
[13:24] <bumbar> i have ubuntu 11.10 on vbox and trying to use shared folder with host, but i can't change owner of folder with nautilus
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> bumbar - try it with gksu nautilus
[13:24] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: what to do man???///
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, i dont know, maybe someone else here can help you
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, what are you using?
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.10?
[13:25] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: yep
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> meh, 11.10 has performance issues
[13:25] <computer_> Hi there all, I am having a very annoying issue where after disconnecting my wired network in Ubuntu 11.10 and then closing my laptop lid, then after a while opening my laptop lid, logging in and then plugging the LAN cable back in the network manager icon just endlessly runs the animation for connecting but never connects. Only after a complete computer restart can the LAN connect again. Anyone got any ideas?
[13:26] <sacarlson> gagan662_: that's why I always try to pick up nvidia equipment as it seems to have more linux support
[13:26] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: which arch?
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, arch?
[13:26] <bumbar> WhereIsMySpoon: doesn't do anything, if i select any other owner than root, it instantly changes back to root
[13:26] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i accept ur advice.next time i l'll use nvidia products ;)
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, that was sacarlson actually
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> but cool :)
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont like ati either
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: lolz
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: mistaken
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: So where i get open source driver?
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, google it
[13:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, open source drivers are usually better performance wise but can be less stable
[13:28] <sacarlson> gagan662_: the open source drivers are normaly a part of the kernel for most stuf I can think of
[13:30] <lucs> I have 'export VISUAL=vim' (and even 'export EDITOR=vim') in my ~/.zprofile, yet when I run 'sudo visudo', it uses the 'nano' editor.
[13:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> lucs - did you restart your terminal session?
[13:31] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Well no, these exports are in my login profile.
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[13:31] <FloodBot1> EathOs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
[13:32] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Was your idea that maybe the exports weren't actually set in my current terminal session?
[13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes lucs
[13:33] <lucs> Ah, no luck then, they are :(
[13:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then
[13:34] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Could it have something to do with root's exports? After all, I am sudoing to root.
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[13:34]  * lucs checks root's exports.
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> then yes, root doesnt use the same exports as your normal user
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> could be
[13:35] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Looks promising. I'll report back on what I find.
[13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[13:35] <Zaitzev> can someone name a decent ftp server daemon that's easy to use?
[13:36] <computer_> Really wish I could solve this issue
[13:36] <AdvoWork> anyone know why/if/how its possible to change Chrome so that it will print background colours. It appears that there is no option to do this?
[13:37] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: which arch you using?
[13:37] <sacarlson> lucs: as shown here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804464  you can add this to ~/.bashrc   ; export EDITOR=nano
[13:37] <sacarlson> alias visudo='sudo -E visudo'   but change nano to what you want it to be
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> you mean which window manager gagan662 ?
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> im using xubuntu
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce
[13:37] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: which architecture you using?
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[13:38] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: :)
[13:38] <scriptwarlock> computer_, have you filed a bug for that?
[13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662, a really old one
[13:38] <computer_> scriptwarlock, no I haven't
[13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> radeon hd 3450
[13:39] <computer_> scriptwarlock, Is this a new thing?
[13:39] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: i meant ubuntu x86 or x86_64?
[13:39] <computer_> scriptwarlock, I was about to upgrade to the 12.04 beta though
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> x86
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> why gagan662
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: me x86_64..
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> i tried linux 64bit
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: i think this causing problem
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> its still not all that stable iirc
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: now m gonna downgrade to 11.04 x86 :(
[13:40] <pvh_sa> anyone here using ubuntu with a dell blade server (i've got a M710HD in a PowerEdge m1000e  rack enclosure). I've got it installed, trying to understand the networking
[13:41] <lucs> sacarlson: Aha. 'sudo -E visudo' did it (and exporting VISUAL=vim in root's .bashrc did nothing).
[13:41] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: ^^
[13:41] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: actually Xubuntu( the lighter ubuntu)
[13:42] <lucs> sacarlson, WhereIsMySpoon: Thanks!
[13:42] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:43] <scriptwarlock> computer_, not new
[13:43] <jrib> lucs: why not just change what /usr/bin/editor points to using the alternatives system?
[13:43] <dansku_> I made  distroupdate, now my ubuntu dont boot anymore, how can i try a fix without reinstalling?
[13:43] <computer_> scriptwarlock, cool, wonder why I haven't found anything googling then
[13:44] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:45] <konza> Hi all, Is there anyone using intellij idea 11?
[13:45] <qassoom> Hello guys. Anyone with experience with Gammu-SMSd
[13:45] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Even restarting the network doesn't seem to do anything
[13:45] <sacarlson> dansku_: normaly update still keeps the older kernel as a backup you should be able to boot that in grub if that's where it gets stuck
[13:45] <gagan662> raven: wubi or external boot??
[13:45] <scriptwarlock> computer_, but rebooting works fine?
[13:45] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep
[13:46] <raven> gagan662 real ubuntu
[13:47] <elcot_> !ltsp
[13:47] <lucs> jrib: Hmm... That feels a bit too globalish for my taste, but thanks for pointing it out.
[13:47] <elcot_> !tftp
[13:47] <scriptwarlock> computer_, i suggest you start reporting the behaviour to launchpad
[13:47] <qassoom> Anyone with experience in Gammu guys???
[13:48] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool, is there already a bug report going?
[13:49] <scriptwarlock> computer_, not sure you'll be the first one if you fire up the apport-bug
[13:49] <ryannathans> I need a aacraid kernel built for 64bit and IOMUU enabled. What should I do?
[13:49] <elcot_> !nbd
[13:50] <ePax> im using ubuntu remote desktop to control another ubuntu... on bouth is swedish keboard layout... but when using remote desktop viewer im getting us keyboard... how can i correct that
[13:50] <ryannathans> ?
[13:51] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:51] <ryannathans> raven: skip it and configure it manually
[13:52] <ryannathans> someone wrong with network connection ro there's no dhcp or something
[13:52] <gagan662> To whom i was actually talking. i forgot his name Lolz...
[13:52] <raven> ryannathans it is not necessary because all works fine after booting up
[13:53] <raven> ryannathans any way to "disable" that?
[13:53] <ryannathans> not sure, I have never looked into it, set network settings manually and it wont bother you again
[13:54] <gagan662> raven: man dont need to disable it..
[13:54] <gagan662> raven: if you skip it will be fine
[13:55] <Fyodorovna> So is HUD available in 11.10?
[13:55] <Fyodorovna> !hud
[13:55] <crizzy> major new approach.. been in os x since 10.4 :)
[13:59] <scriptwarlock> computer_, you there?
[14:00] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep, what's up?
[14:00] <tziOm> What is the config file for xft?
[14:00] <tziOm> I need it to listen to tcp, not only socket.
[14:00] <scriptwarlock> computer_, can you locate /etc/pm/sleep.d
[14:01] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure, one moment
[14:01] <Guest25456> how can i found my server is correctly dns server binding :?
[14:01] <arda> hi
[14:02] <arda> i have some problem about ubuntu any bady can help me
[14:02] <jcolbert__> that is a strange question Guest25456
[14:02] <Rabenklaue> hi, I've a problem with installing wine on precise: http://codepad.org/AfLP3k0L Does anyone have any hint how to solve the dependency issue?
[14:02] <jcolbert__> arda wats the issue?
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[14:02] <arda> i want to move my home directory
[14:02] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep I am currently in sleep.d
[14:03] <Guest25456> how can i found my server is correctly binding :?
[14:03] <Rabenklaue> I've read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936014&highlight=wine+precise that it "should" work now on precise, but for me it still has the dependency mismatch thing.
[14:03] <lucs> computer_: When I count to three, you will open your eyes...
[14:03] <scriptwarlock> computer_, what was inside
[14:03] <jcolbert__> hold on a sec arda
[14:03] <Myrtti> !ubuntu+1 | Rabenklaue
[14:03] <arda> ok
[14:03] <Rabenklaue> ubottu: Oh sorry for that, thanks anyway
[14:03] <computer_> lucs: Okay, I guess
[14:04] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Three files the color of scripts
[14:04] <lucs> computer_: Better listen to scriptwarlock, not me ;)
[14:04] <scriptwarlock> computer_, you have suspend thing?
[14:04] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I guess we are wanting to look at the "novatel_3g_suspend" file
[14:05] <mi3> scriptwarlock, it uses only 30% bandwidth?
[14:05] <Ztane> strangest crash ever,
[14:05] <AdvoWork> ive just done: sudo groupadd developers  how can I add the users Test and Test1 to that group?
[14:05] <mi3> I closed that scriptwarlock
[14:05] <scriptwarlock> mi3, yes try it dont know where to pull that app but its available on ubuntu 12.04
[14:05] <trevor69420> strange i was banned on some channel but i dunno which one
[14:06] <mi3> scriptwarlock I use ubuntu 11.04 will it work?
[14:06] <trevor69420> arda: it's jcolbert sorry to change my nick
[14:06] <Ztane> unity became unresponsive, but console login worked. Metacity and gnome-settings-daemon used 100 % cpu each, but each one had mapped 543 GIGABYTES of virtual memory?!?! wtf??!
[14:06] <arda> ok
[14:06] <trevor69420> u said you want to move your home directory right?
[14:06] <arda> yes
[14:06] <scriptwarlock> mi3, find the ppa
[14:06] <mi3> ok
[14:07] <arcnewuss> I only get basic font and I have no icon in application such as firefox and thunar.
[14:07] <mi3> uses 30%bandwidth? that sounds gr8!! scriptwarlock
[14:07] <trevor69420> arda i believe you can do a sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m
[14:07] <arda> İ try this
[14:07] <trevor69420> i've never done it arda but supposedly that command will copy all your files from your current one
[14:07] <regetomek> Hello, guys
[14:07] <trevor69420> guy? where?
[14:07] <trevor69420> guys*
[14:07] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yes there is a file named "novaltel_3g_suspend"
[14:08] <arda> i will back you
[14:08] <scriptwarlock> computer_, was making some script just a workaround
[14:08] <arda> so thanks
[14:08] <trevor69420> let me know if it works arda
[14:08] <regetomek> :)
[14:09] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool thanks, I am just looking at the suspend script
[14:09] <regetomek> libnotify have one type of notification or few types??
[14:09] <computer_> scriptwarlock: If there is something I can type manually I don't mind
[14:10] <arcnewuss> my window manager handles fonts improperly
[14:10] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[14:12] <regetomek> disable network in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:12] <regetomek> so what with this notify-send
[14:13] <pedrocr> how do I disable or set a very low timeout on ssh/gpg key passphrase storage?
[14:13] <pedrocr> they seem to be stored per session which is insecure for a machine that's actually a VM and gets suspended to disk instead of logged off
[14:13] <arcnewuss> do i need to check xorg to have fonts working properly
[14:13] <arcnewuss> What files does ubuntu refer to in a vanilla install when starting X
[14:14] <pedrocr> seahorse used to have that setting but not anymore
[14:14] <Zaitzev> how do I enable java in google chrome? I've installed openjdk-7-jre
[14:14] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Oh I get it now
[14:14] <scriptwarlock> computer_, wat is it
[14:15] <AdvoWork> i've got a folder than was root:root called testing.  I made a new group called Developers and then i've added 2 users to that group. I've then done sudo chgrp developers testing and testing/*  so now all files show root:testing but my 2 users still can't upload files. Any ideas please?
[14:15] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I was just looking at the suspend script that is in that folder and it has nothing to do with my situation
[14:16] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I don't mind restarting things manually after suspend to get the wired network to work I just need to know what to restart
[14:16] <scriptwarlock> computer_, of course but making a script that can restart your network hardware is what i mean
[14:17] <trevor69420> advowork sorry? is this FTP?
[14:18] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure I just wonder why the things I have tried have not worked
[14:18] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, yeah, ive logged in as one of my users fine, try and upload/overwrite the file and says permission denied
[14:18] <scriptwarlock> computer_, maybe sometimes hardware are not good in handling the hibernate
[14:18] <trevor69420> advowork they need to have write permissions on the folder
[14:18] <trevor69420> not just FTP permissions
[14:19] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yes I figured this must be the case
[14:19] <scriptwarlock> computer_, can you sudo lsmod
[14:19] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure, one moment
[14:20] <regetomek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110837/how-to-hide-error-messages-automaticly-in-libnotify-in-gnome-shell
[14:20] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, what do I need to change then?
[14:20] <AdvoWork> that testing dir is actually 777
[14:20] <mariya> hi
[14:21] <computer_> scriptwarlock: What do you want from it
[14:21] <scriptwarlock> computer_, pastebin the result
[14:21] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure one moment.
[14:21] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, the exact error is: open for write: permission denied
[14:22] <trevor69420> advowork you using Ubuntu Server or desktop?
[14:22] <trevor69420> you can set the permissions through te GUI if you want
[14:22] <Mech0z> is this the correct command for raid6 with 5 drives (2 for parity) mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=6 -n 5 drive1.... drive5
[14:22] <AdvoWork> no gui access unfortunately :S
[14:22] <trevor69420> ok i'll walk u through via CLI
[14:22] <AdvoWork> ok thanks
[14:22] <trevor69420> u know the path of the folder i assume?
[14:23] <trevor69420> sudo chgrp -R <group>/path/here
[14:23] <trevor69420> replace <group> with the name of the group you want to have write access
[14:24] <trevor69420> advowork then after that you should do
[14:24] <trevor69420> sudo chmod -R g+w /path/here
[14:25] <computer_> scriptwarlock: http://pastebin.com/1qnG27ke
[14:25] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, thats done it, thanks!
[14:25] <trevor69420> AdvoWork: also, this is up to you but it might make sense to make it so that all the subdirectories and files are owned by the group
[14:27] <trevor69420> sudo find /path/here -type d -exec chmod 2775 {} \;
[14:28] <croffe> Pangolin install goes to grub rescue for me after install due to FakeRaid setup, and I have not been able to boot it, but this worked on 11.10.  Any tips on troubleshooting? I've seen some posts on dmraid, but no go fixing it yet. I'm missing Ubuntu on my desktop already :(
[14:28] <bazhang> croffe, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[14:28] <trevor69420> advowork if there are files in there now they should have read/write access then also run this:  "sudo find /var/www -type f -exec chmod ug+rw {} \;"
[14:28] <croffe> thanks
[14:28] <trevor69420> errr replace /var/www with whatever path u want
[14:29] <trevor69420> this will give the users write access to the existing files
[14:30] <Aitor> hello, i just installed ubuntu. how can i prevent my screen from diming?
[14:31] <Aitor> it dims in just a minute or so
[14:31] <trevor69420> aitor laptop?
[14:31] <Aitor> yes it is a small laptop (netbook)
[14:32] <trevor69420> it's in the power settings aito
[14:32] <trevor69420> aitor*
[14:32] <scriptwarlock> computer_, can you sudo lshw -C network
[14:32] <Aitor> trevor694420= yes it is a small laptop
[14:33] <trevor69420> i told you aitor it's in the power settings
[14:33] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure, one moment
[14:34] <Aitor> trevor69420: not in my power settings
[14:34] <trevor69420> give me a sec.. starting ubuntu desktop now.. dunno if my vm is gonna have the same settings as a laptop tho
[14:35] <Aitor> i can send u a screenshot
[14:36] <trevor69420> aitor: dont DCC files to me
[14:36] <trevor69420> !paste | Aitor
[14:36] <Aitor> ah ok
[14:36] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sorry for taking so long but I am currently maxing out my CPU with OSX in Virtual Box
[14:37] <trevor69420> use the imagebin link
[14:37] <grendal-prime> I got this werid thing going on ...i have a script data-mover.sh we will call it..(cause that is its name)  I can run it manually...as root...does what its supposed to do...when i run it as cron it never works right
[14:38] <Aitor> http://imagebin.org/202317
[14:38] <computer_> scriptwarlock: DA DA; http://pastebin.com/eHCUwQjp
[14:38] <dr3mro> hello , how to get uget download manager appear in sys tray in ubuntu 11.10
[14:38] <Aitor> no dim screen options in power settings, where can i find those options?
[14:38] <grendal-prime> it makes a vpnconnection then mounts two cifs shares moves  some data with rsync and then shuts down the mounts and the vpn connection
[14:38] <_Marcus> Aitor: What language is that? Spanish?
[14:38] <Aitor> _Marcus: yes
[14:39] <scriptwarlock> computer_, is the lan not  waking after hibernate?
[14:40] <trevor69420> hablo espanol mucho
[14:40] <dr3mro> what free vpn service can be used with ubuntu ?? what ubuntu users prefer `FREE`?
[14:40] <trijntje> where can I find a list of (video) hardware that works with ubuntu out of the box? I'm looking for info on Ati Radeon HD2300
[14:40] <grendal-prime> dr3mro, openvpn
[14:41] <trevor69420> airtor: No hay ninguna opción tenue
[14:41] <_Marcus> trevor69420: nada de español
[14:41] <Aitor> trevor: no, no encuentro la opcion
[14:42] <_Marcus> !es | Aitor y trevor69420
[14:42] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Not sure I don't think I ever really hibernate, but it is definitely not connecting after a Suspend.
[14:42] <stimpie> how can I execute a script when a file is placed at a specific location?
[14:43] <scriptwarlock> computer_, yeah which one the rf or lan
[14:43] <grendal-prime> inosync
[14:43] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Only ever the LAN
[14:43] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Wired Network
[14:43] <trevor69420> mucho glacias _Marcus
[14:44] <trevor69420> anyways airtor i'm not sure why your thing is missing
[14:44] <grendal-prime> The inosync daemon leverages the inotify service available in recent linux kernels to monitor and synchronize changes within directories to remote nodes
[14:44] <Aitor> i dont have a option to not dim the screen, how can i cancel de diming?
[14:44] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I have never had any issues with the Wireless
[14:44] <trevor69420> i cant tell cuz i dont have  a laptop with me that has ubuntu
[14:44] <scriptwarlock> computer_, gksudo gedit /etc/pm/config.d/config
[14:44] <Aitor> trevor: do you mean it should be there?
[14:44] <trevor69420> but i could have sworn it was in the power management settings app
[14:44] <magicJ> the dmesg output is in seconds since the system boot - how do I get the seconds when the system did boot in terms of the epoch?
[14:44] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Okay, one moment
[14:45] <stimpie> grendal-prime, thanks
[14:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> is there a c++ channel on freenode?
[14:45] <trevor69420> Aitor, try this in terminal....   gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power idle-dim-battery false
[14:45] <dr3mro> grendal-prime, ?? how to make it work with ubuntu free?
[14:45] <trevor69420> Aitor, you may have to use Sudo for that
[14:47] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Done, but is it meant to be empty?
[14:47] <scriptwarlock> computer_, yes and paste this
[14:47] <Aitor> trevor69420: i runned the command with sudo with no echoes. but screen still dimming in few seconds
[14:47] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool so we are making a new file
[14:47] <trevor69420> Aitor on battery or plugged in?
[14:48] <Aitor> on battery
[14:48] <trevor69420> hmmm what about when plugged in?
[14:48] <scriptwarlock> computer_, SUSPEND_MODULES="r8169"
[14:48] <scriptwarlock> computer_, rather SUSPEND_MODULES="$SUSPEND_MODULES r8169"
[14:49] <Pici> WhereIsMySpoon: ##c++
[14:49] <scriptwarlock> computer_, r8169 is your driver
[14:49] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool so I now have "SUSPEND_MODULES="$SUSPEND_MODULES r8169"
[14:50] <Aitor> oh, i cant find my charger
[14:50] <scriptwarlock> computer_, yes close and reboot and test
[14:50] <Aitor> nevertheless, i think i installed both english<spanish, i may try to log in english to see i the option is in the power settings
[14:50] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure I figured that, that was my driver
[14:51] <ph8> hi all, I want to do something crazy, like start joining my linux servers and/or desktops to our windows domain - what's the best way to do that these days? I found articles on centrify but i can't find the package in Precise?
[14:51] <scriptwarlock> computer_, save, close, reboot and test it
[14:51] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Will do but can't restart right now
[14:51] <waxstone> Is there a partition editor in 11.10? ike administration>Partition Editor before?
[14:51] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Will do so as soon a updates and some downloads have finished
[14:52] <scriptwarlock> computer_, ah ok
[14:52] <RedViper> Hi I am going to reinstall my computer an I want to know how I can save my firefox bookmarks
[14:52] <RedViper> ?
[14:53] <pros977> RedViper: In your home directory there is a .firefox directory. Back that up for sure.
[14:53] <h00k> RedViper: you can also save them with Ubuntu One
[14:53] <h00k> RedViper: you can use that to sync your bookmarks
[14:54] <Etherael> So oneiric has been utterly screwed for the past month or so and I got sick of it and decided to try pangolin, after the install it looks like the ubuntu installer silently overwrote the bootblock of my secondary hard disk that contained a truecrypt lock. Wow... that's really amazingly incompetent.
[14:54] <raven> how to disable graphical autologin?
[14:54] <bazhang> Etherael, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[14:55] <Andi_M> hey folks, i installed 10.04 yesterday on a new machine and had an issue with the driver not being detected.  I downloaded the driver, did a depmod -a and modprobe e1000 and it detected the network and started working.  I just did an update this morning, it asked to reboot the machine and now I can't get my network interface back up no matter what.  There are now 2 showing in dmesg and only lo in ifconfig -a.  Any suggestions :D ?
[14:55] <battlehands> Is there a defult client in Windows that allows for SSH?  I don't want to have to isntall a cleint like putty.
[14:55] <ziglir> cool / beans
[14:55] <antihc3> battlehands, no
[14:56] <RedViper> OK thanks :D
[14:57] <battlehands> antihc3: That's totally unacceptable.  What if I'm working on a school machine and I want to access a file from my desktop?  I don't have administrator priviledges on my school computers and cannot install software like PuTTY.
[14:57] <scriptwarlock> raven, you want autologin? no passwrd?
[14:58] <raven> scriptwarlock i want xfce not to autologin any more
[14:58] <ph8> battlehands, it's hardly the place to complain, complain to Microsoft!
[14:58] <battlehands> ph8: Like those guys will listen!
[14:58] <battlehands> :)
[14:58] <bazhang> battlehands, how is this ontopic here
[14:59] <antihc3> battlehands, thats microsoft for you
[14:59] <battlehands> bazhang: My next question was going to be about SSH in Ubuntu.
[14:59] <battlehands> I have a lecture to give.  See you guys later!
[15:00] <Andi_M> weirdness, just rebooted for the 3rd time and it picked it up
[15:01] <Mech0z> anyone know what can cause me not to be able to use Putty to control my ubuntu desktop?
[15:01] <Mech0z> just getse connection refused
[15:01] <_Marcus> Mech0z: It's "puTTY" for a reason. You can only control TTY through Putty.
[15:01] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Try a remote desktop program instead
[15:02] <pythonsnake> hi, I can't scale frequency anymore: cpufreq-info gives me a line 'frequency should be within 2.40 GHz and 2.40 GHz.' I use powersave governor. anyone got an idea?
[15:02] <Mech0z> _Marcus I am using tightvnc, but just wanted to only get terminal access
[15:02] <Mech0z> cumbersome to type terminal through vnc :s
[15:02] <pythonsnake> also, my cpu is an i5 450m
[15:02] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Oh. So you want to just control terminal? Sorry, I misunderstood your question.
[15:02] <ikonia> pythonsnake: how are you using powersave governor in linux ?
[15:03] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Do you have OpenSSH installed?
[15:03] <Mech0z> dont think so
[15:03] <ikonia> pythonsnake: did you try this before and have to find some software to link into it properly ?
[15:03] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Type "sudo apt-get install openssh"
[15:03] <pythonsnake> cpufreq-set -r -g ondemand
[15:03] <pythonsnake> oops
[15:03] <pythonsnake> cpufreq-set -r -g powersave
[15:03] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I'm sure you've done this before, I remember discussing it with you
[15:04] <Mech0z> _Marcus unable to to lacate package openssh
[15:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: where did you get cpufreq-set from ?
[15:04] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Hm.
[15:04] <pythonsnake> from cpufreqd package
[15:04] <computer_> Wow I just discovered Wine Tricks, WOW!
[15:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: from with repo ?
[15:04] <pythonsnake> I also installed cpufrequtils
[15:04] <pythonsnake> yes
[15:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I'm only asking as I'm trying to remember if this is the same issue you had before
[15:04] <llutz> _Marcus: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" or "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[15:04] <_Marcus> Derp.
[15:04] <computer_> Is there anything the Open Source can't do?
[15:05] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Use "sudo apt-get install ssh", like llutz said.
[15:05] <Mech0z> ah
[15:05] <Mech0z> installing
[15:05] <_Marcus> computer_: Be in human form.
[15:05] <ikonia> pythonsnake: pastebin the output of this command "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors"
[15:06] <_Marcus> mech0z: After that, are you connecting outside of the computer's local network?
[15:06] <pythonsnake> conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance
[15:06] <pythonsnake> There's powersave in it
[15:06] <computer_> _Marcus, I don't know, I believe that Open Source humans are a better type of human
[15:06] <Mech0z> yes it works now :)
[15:06] <_Marcus> mech0z: Great. Remember to open a port for it(I'm guessing you already did, seeing how it works)
[15:06] <_Marcus> computer_: I never heard of an open source human :P
[15:07] <Mech0z> _Marcus its on local lan
[15:07] <ikonia> pythonsnake: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[15:07] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Okay.
[15:07] <Mech0z> cant access it from outside my house unless I use hamachi anyway
[15:07] <pythonsnake> I found this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_CPU_frequency_scaling but my frequncy is highest not lowest...
[15:07] <_Marcus> Mech0z: So it should work now.
[15:07] <Mech0z> sitting behind a firewall I cant I access
[15:07] <Guest7089> hello
[15:07] <_Marcus> Hello, Guest7089
[15:08] <pythonsnake> ondemand
[15:08] <pythonsnake> wait...
[15:08] <ikonia> pythonsnake: ok, so it's currently set to ondemand.....
[15:08] <Mech0z> btw anyone that can tell me how to give SabNZBdPlus write access so it can write to /root/data/downloadfolder
[15:08] <pythonsnake> forgot i rebooted
[15:08] <Mech0z> not sure how to give an application write access
[15:09] <jack> easy, just start is as root
[15:09] <pythonsnake> one sec
[15:09] <_Marcus> Mech0z: Start it as root.
[15:09] <computer_> _Marcus, A human who has an open an inquisitive mind and in completely open and sharing about the knowledge wisdom and understanding she or he has
[15:09] <Mech0z> ah so if I sudo SABNZBDPLUS when I ope nit, it should work?`
[15:09] <ikonia> Mech0z: why are you trying to get a non-privileged user to write to root's home directory ?
[15:10] <_Marcus> computer_: Good point.
[15:10] <pythonsnake> here
[15:10] <Mech0z> ikonia its a download app and I need it to write to my raid5 which is on root
[15:10] <suj> anybody can send me a ftp link to download ubuntu for my laptop?
[15:10] <ikonia> Mech0z: why have you put it on /root for non-root users to use ?
[15:10] <suj> i cudnt download it from the net
[15:10] <pythonsnake> Every 2.0s: grep "cpu MHz" /proc/cpuinfo -  cpu MHz         : 2400.000
[15:10] <ikonia> pythonsnake: didn't ask for that
[15:10] <Mech0z> ikonia I am just follwing guides to setup my raid
[15:10] <pythonsnake> powersave
[15:10] <ikonia> pythonsnake: asked for the commands I asked for
[15:10] <_Marcus> Does Qt come with Ubuntu by default?
[15:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: ok - so it's in powersave mode now
[15:11] <rbnielsen> I'm starting to give up on my googling.. Could someone please direct me to a thread (or two) about "i've-b0rked-my-ubuntu-and-I-want-to-reinstall-without-touching-the-separate-partition-my-/home-is-on", please?
[15:11] <rbnielsen> Thanks in advance. :)
[15:11] <ikonia> Mech0z: ok, that guide doesn't seem a good one to follow if it tells you to mount it on /root
[15:11] <pythonsnake> I pasted grep thing to justify :)
[15:11] <Mech0z> ikonia can I change that afterwords?
[15:11] <haylo> rbnielsen, copy that /home to a disc or usb
[15:11] <ikonia> Mech0z: depends what you are doing how much effort it takes
[15:12] <lizzin> what should i look into if i want to find a directory on my system
[15:12] <lizzin> i know the name but have no idea where it is
[15:12] <Mech0z> ikonia used this guide http://dtbaker.com.au/random-bits/ubuntu---howto-easily-setup-raid-5-with-lvm.html
[15:12] <Mech0z> almost
[15:12] <Mech0z> used ext4 instead though
[15:12] <trevor69420> lizzin u could just click on the search option
[15:12] <suj> can i get a ftp link to download ubuntu???
[15:12] <trevor69420> FTP?? suj u can get it on the website
[15:12] <ikonia> Mech0z: I strongly advise you not to use that guide
[15:12] <raven> how to disable xfce autologin?
[15:12] <Mech0z> well thats too late :S
[15:12] <lizzin> trevor69420: how is it done from the terminal though? i am trying to do this remotely
[15:13] <xangua> suj: you can download ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[15:13] <ikonia> Mech0z: also no-where in that guide does it say "mount /root"
[15:13] <ikonia> Mech0z: it says use "/data"
[15:13] <Mech0z> thats what I wrote
[15:13] <Mech0z> someone just said that "filesystem" == root
[15:13] <Mech0z> and thats where I find the folders
[15:13] <rbnielsen> haylo, I was sort of hoping to avoid that. :) I don't really have access to 80gb. :/
[15:13] <ikonia> Mech0z: where is your raid disk mounted ?
[15:14] <trevor69420> lizzin, you can use the "locate" command
[15:14] <Mech0z> as /data and /data2
[15:14] <ikonia> Mech0z: did you use resier fs as that guide suggested ?
[15:14] <pythonsnake> changing frequency manually doesn't work either
[15:14] <Mech0z> nope mkfs.ext4
[15:14] <ikonia> Mech0z: ok, your in good shape then
[15:14] <Mech0z> so its all good?
[15:14] <ikonia> pythonsnake: how are you changing it
[15:14] <trevor69420> lizzin, i assume u havent used the locate command before?
[15:14] <ikonia> Mech0z: much better than I first thought, yes
[15:15] <lizzin> trevor69420: ill try that
[15:15] <lizzin> thanks
[15:15] <Mech0z> ikonia well when I try to get my download folder to be /data/downloadfolder it complains that it cant write to that location
[15:15] <Mech0z> should I still just launch it with sudo?
[15:15] <Mech0z> or ist that bad
[15:15] <ikonia> Mech0z: what is the name of the user you are running the applications as ?
[15:16] <Mech0z> mads
[15:16] <pythonsnake> ikonia: sudo cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.00Ghzsudo cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.00Ghz
[15:16] <pythonsnake> ikonia: sudo cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.00Ghz*
[15:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: use the names as suggested earlier
[15:16] <lizzin> trevor69420: will locate also index external drives?
[15:16] <ikonia> Mech0z: sudo chown -R mads:users /data
[15:16] <Mech0z> sudo chown +R mads:users /data
[15:16] <pythonsnake> what names?
[15:17] <Mech0z> ok
[15:17] <ikonia> Mech0z: no
[15:17] <Mech0z> not +
[15:17] <ikonia> Mech0z: chown -R mads:users /data
[15:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: powersave/ondemand/etc
[15:17] <computer__> Wow thanks heaps scriptwarlock it worked like a charm!
[15:17] <trevor69420> lizzin should
[15:17] <pythonsnake> ah the governors
[15:17] <trevor69420> but u may need to update the db before hand since u've never used locate before
[15:18] <trevor69420> lizzin, type at he command line "sudo upatedb"
[15:18] <trevor69420> it may take a sec
[15:18] <computer__> scriptwarlock: If you don't mind and have the time I would love an explanation of what this issue is and why the fix worked
[15:18] <raven> scriptwarlock i want xfce not to autologin any more
[15:19] <scriptwarlock> computer__, try it a couple of times
[15:19] <computer__> scriptwarlock, will do
[15:19] <pythonsnake> issue is still same with all the governors
[15:20] <ikonia> pythonsnake: are the governers changing on the sys file system as I showed you to cat earlier ?
[15:21] <Chi25TngBot> #gim
[15:21] <pythonsnake> yes
[15:21] <scriptwarlock> computer__, my guess is a hardware issue not ubuntu
[15:21] <ikonia> pythonsnake: ok so it is changing the interface
[15:21] <raven> how to disable xfce autologin?
[15:21] <ikonia> pythonsnake: what version of ubuntu are you running this power scaling on
[15:21] <Mech0z> ikonia when I launch zabnzb through putty it "locks" that putty session, cant you launch an app so it just runs in another thread?
[15:21] <computer__> scriptwarlock, Cool so how did your most awesome fix get around that?
[15:21] <pythonsnake> latest - 11.10
[15:22] <pythonsnake> 3.0.0-16-generic
[15:23] <pythonsnake> maybe this is relevant: "current CPU frequency is 2.40 GHz (asserted by call to hardware)"
[15:23] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I'm querying what you are using as you are also asking exaclty the same questions in #archlinux suggesting you are running arch
[15:23] <Molfar> i'm trying to install (at ubuntu) selenium-webdriver gem and get `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError)
[15:23] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ubuntu
[15:24] <haylo> aw man if those arch guys knew that
[15:24] <ikonia> pythonsnake: are you sure ? as you suggest you are using arch in #archlinux
[15:24] <pythonsnake> 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan...
[15:24] <ikonia> pythonsnake: give you a chance to be %100 clear/honest before we continue
[15:25] <roberts> good day, I know there's an easy way to multiboot if you have windows installed. But is it possible to install win if I have Ubuntu on one drive and another one is unallocated?
[15:26] <ikonia> !dualboot | roberts
[15:28] <prismcube> I have a question about fork and copy on write
[15:30] <lucs> prismcube: I'm not a regular in this channel, but usually, asking the question will get you better results :)
[15:31] <monser> hello
[15:31] <prismcube> I didnt know if this was the proper channel to even ask it
[15:31] <monser> how can i get libnl2 package
[15:31] <monser> there is only libnl1 in the repo
[15:31] <lucs> prismcube: I suppose that if you ask politely, if it's off-topic, you will get redirected somewhere else.
[15:33] <prismcube> I am taking an operating systems course and one of our assignments is to implement a version of fork system call that does not keep copy on write, but instead just copies all the page info immediatly.  We have been told that this is possible without modifying do_fork or copy_process and instead just calling do_fork with certain flags set.  I do not see how this is possible, so I just want to know if this is indeed possible to implement
[15:33] <prashs> if i need to preserve tabbing in while i am typing programs in Gedit, what should i do?
[15:33] <G__81> I want to remove Ubuntu2D. Whats the package name so that i can remove Ubuntu2D
[15:33] <ikonia> prismcube: try the ##programming channel
[15:34] <scriptwarlock> prismcube, "assignments"
[15:34] <prismcube> ok thank you, I am not looking for the answer, merely to verify that it is possible
[15:35] <shaneo> hey guys whats a command i can run to list all installed programs minus file extensions
[15:36] <ikonia> shaneo: dpkg -l will list your packages
[15:36] <shaneo> thanks
[15:36] <Ho^Oh> shaneo: The list will be huge! :D
[15:36] <shaneo> lol yes it is
[15:36] <shaneo> is there anyway to print the list to a file
[15:37] <wylde> dpkg -l >> ~/dpkg.txt
[15:37] <shaneo> :) thought so thank you
[15:37] <Ho^Oh> shaneo: Could try this dpkg -l > /home/yourname/filename.txt
[15:38] <pythonsnake> should i repeat?
[15:38] <Ho^Oh> pythonsnake: Go ahead!
[15:38] <Ho^Oh> It's a trend!
[15:39] <pythonsnake> I can't scale frequency anymore: cpufreq-info gives me a line 'frequency should be within 2.40 GHz and 2.40 GHz.' I use powersave governor. anyone got an idea?
[15:39] <ikonia> looks like it's not supporting scaling on your hardware
[15:39] <Eragonio> How could i add more Virtual network Interfaces to a ubuntu server?
[15:40] <pythonsnake> scaling worked with windows
[15:41] <Eragonio> Nobody?
[15:41] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you're not using windows though
[15:42] <pythonsnake> :( is there another way to cool down a laptop (beside cleaning and cooling pad)
[15:43] <crizzy> buy a proper laptop :)
[15:43] <pythonsnake> how can i cool down a laptop with another one >>
[15:44] <_Marcus> pythonsnake: He meant buy a new laptop.
[15:44] <imMute> how the deuce do I tell ubuntu to not automount devices when I insert SD cards?
[15:44] <trevor69420> Eragonio it's just like a regular interface but instead of ETH0 the virtual would be ETH0:1
[15:45] <ikonia> pythonsnake: it's worth doing a bit of research to see if powerscaling is actually supported on that laptop under linux
[15:45] <trevor69420> assuming you want to assign the Virtual interfavce to what ETH0 is of course
[15:45] <kalle1> IM A HACKER WATCH OUT!
[15:45] <ikonia> kalle1: please don't be silly
[15:45] <Silverlion> kalle
[15:45] <_Marcus> hax0r_l33t: Do you even know what that means?
[15:46] <weiyang> hi,  how could i load the tun module?
[15:46] <ikonia> _Marcus: please don't feed sillyness
[15:46] <hax0r_l33t> IM A REAL HACKER I CAN HACK U EASY, I USE WINDOWS, op caps lock sry
[15:46] <weiyang> i use lsmod | grep tun but see nothing
[15:46] <satyanash> That was quick..
[15:47] <Ho^Oh> As soon as they say windows, you can not take em seriously. :P
[15:47] <_Marcus> Lol
[15:47] <ikonia> Ho^Oh: please don't feed sillyness
[15:47] <trevor69420> i was scared for a sec when he said he was a hacker
[15:47] <scriptwarlock> hax0r_l33t, u alright?
[15:47] <trevor69420> then i saw he used windows
[15:47] <trevor69420> and wasnt scared anymore
[15:47] <Ho^Oh> Lol.
[15:47] <spacedust> hi
[15:47] <tesgd> agreed, anyone who says they're a hacker, isn't a hacker, because they're butchering the damn term anyways
[15:47] <spacedust> what is Install Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud ?
[15:47] <spacedust> i mean what is enterprise cloud ? can i build my own cloud with that ?
[15:48] <spacedust> do i need license for that ?
[15:48] <shaneo> ok guys i think i was asking the wrong question i want to create a script that will install all my packages in case of system failure (which is happeneing alot laltely) the dpkg -l is nice as it names all the installed packages the only problem is weeding through to find simply the package names is there an easier method to what im trying to accomplish
[15:48] <bazhang> spacedust, uec you mean?
[15:48] <Andrid> hello, where i can find help for easypeasy..?
[15:48] <suj> ikonia
[15:48] <tesgd> shaneo: How many applications do you have installed?
[15:48] <bazhang> Andrid, try alis
[15:48] <tesgd> I just finished making a list with PPAs and packages, took 15 minutes
[15:48] <bazhang> !alis | Andrid
[15:48] <shaneo> tesgd, idk alot
[15:49] <spacedust> bazhang: yes uec
[15:49] <suj> can someone help me with ubuntu setup
[15:49] <suj> ?
[15:49] <_Marcus> !UEC | spacedust
[15:49] <_Marcus> Whatever >.<
[15:49] <_Marcus> spacedust: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[15:49] <bazhang> suj, whats the specific question. please be clear
[15:49] <trevor69420> sheesh,,,
[15:49] <yader> Does anybody have printed in this way [text] > [path] without usblp? I need to disable usblp module for keep working cups
[15:49] <bazhang> trevor69420, lets move on
[15:49] <tesgd> shaneo: Remember that most packages are installed by default, you only need to install the programs you've manually installed, and remove the ones that come by default which you have removed
[15:50] <tesgd> I doubt you've installed more than 15 programs, if you don't know the names of them, they're not important enough to save
[15:50] <spacedust> _Marcus: oh its eucalyptus ...
[15:50] <spacedust> isnt OpenStack better now ?
[15:50] <shaneo> tesgd, so how can i pull a list of packages manually installed ? or would it be easier to create a system image depending on my install
[15:50] <crizzy> anyone happen to know what's the package name for that 'documents' tool in gnome3?
[15:50] <crizzy> i just can't find it from software centre -.-
[15:50] <spacedust> Note: Starting with 11.10 (oneiric), Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is replaced by Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure, which is based on OpenStack.
[15:50] <spacedust> lol i need to learn to read :) haha
[15:51] <bazhang> crizzy, the viewer?
[15:51] <spacedust> so i probably dont want to use UEC right _Marcus  ?
[15:51] <arcnewuss> i can't get the proper font working in thunar and firefox in 11.10 32b
[15:51] <crizzy> bazhang: yeh, the one that can browse google docs n stuff
[15:51] <suj> @bazhang:having problems downloading the whole file
[15:51] <bazhang> crizzy, evince ? is that what you are thinking of
[15:51] <_Marcus> spacedust: I don't know. I have no idea what you are going to use it for so, I can't say.
[15:51] <bazhang> suj, which file
[15:52] <crizzy> bazhang: umm no...
[15:52] <suj> ubuntu
[15:52] <suj> os
[15:52] <bazhang> crizzy, better description then please
[15:52] <bazhang> suj, get the torrent
[15:52] <bazhang> !torrents | suj
[15:52] <arcnewuss> when printing the fonts print with random spaces between them but the driver is fine it seems like a font problem
[15:52] <bazhang> suj, either that or ubuntu.com
[15:53] <crizzy> bazhang: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/gnome-32-released-see-whats-new.html that 'gnome documents' thing
[15:53] <Andrid> easypeasy is almoust Ubuntu so I will ask it here... Can I install it without swap..? What is difference?
[15:53] <ikonia> Andrid: it's not ubuntu though - so please don't ask for support here
[15:53] <suj> i dont have the torent software in my laptop as of now
[15:53] <shaneo> also ubuntu keeps locking up on me all applications are still running but i cant click or type anything anywhere anybody know what might cause this
[15:53] <suj> i can still download?
[15:53] <bazhang> suj, so install it
[15:54] <shaneo> its a fresh install so i dont see why it should be having so many issues
[15:54] <bazhang> suj if you are on windows then get utorrent
[15:54] <Andrid> ok can I install Ubuntu without swap?
[15:54] <bazhang> Andrid, yes, but better to not
[15:54] <arcnewuss> how do you get fonts to display properly in firefox
[15:54] <suj> hmmm
[15:54] <suj> yhes im using wndows 7
[15:54] <celthunder> Andrid: yes
[15:54] <shaneo> Andrid, i wouldnt rule of thumb is swap should be double your ram
[15:54] <Andrid> I have 4gb ram so why not?
[15:54] <bazhang> suj, so ask in ##windows about torrent clients for windows 7
[15:55] <ikonia> Andrid: please - use the easypeasy support resources
[15:55] <ikonia> Andrid: we are not here to pickup easypeasy support
[15:55] <celthunder> Andrid: i dont have any swap.  the only downside is no suspend.  also make sure you dont use all your ram
[15:58] <tesgd> If you never use all your ram, you don't need swap
[15:58] <tesgd> swap is slow as shit anyways
[15:58] <ikonia> Andrid: https://getsatisfaction.com/easypeasy
[15:58] <compdoc> swap is a good thing to have in any case
[15:58] <ikonia> Andrid: fyi ^
[15:58] <shaneo> compdoc, agreed
[15:59] <shaneo> i have 16.4GB swap
[15:59] <Andrid> ikonia i have been there before... they are old..
[15:59] <celthunder> tesgd: thats why i didnt bother having any lol ill deal with the crash
[15:59] <compdoc> thats a bit much, but at least have some swap
[15:59] <scriptwarlock> Andrid, dont forget the  swapfaq
[15:59] <superuser_ir> if u binding server,is it caching?
[15:59] <bazhang> Andrid, nonetheless this is not easypeasy support
[15:59] <tesgd> I have 12GB of ram, so I doubt I'll ever use it all ^^
[15:59] <shaneo> so random ubuntu freezes causing no typing or mouse usage any ideas?
[16:00] <arcnewuss> i have only basic font and no icon in nautilus
[16:00] <celthunder> shaneo: anything in the logs
[16:00] <tesgd> and jeez, 16.4gb of swap, that's pointless
[16:00] <Ho^Oh> compdoc: What is a good reason to really have swap?    Other than for sleepmode/suspend mode?
[16:01] <shaneo> celthunder, i wouldnt even know which one to check
[16:01] <Ho^Oh> tesgd: Not exactly depending on what you do with your machine.
[16:01] <tesgd> you never want to hit swap, so the fact that you're using that much is wrong. You need more ram.
[16:01] <shaneo> tesgd, well i use alot of ram so its nice to have flowover
[16:02] <celthunder> tesgd: they are probably recursively compiling that eats ram.  my servers have swap just in case though
[16:02] <tesgd> it's not nice though, because as soon as you're using the swap, everything that's using it runs like shit
[16:02] <_Marcus> I have 78MB of RAM free. Is that bad?
[16:02] <_Marcus> I have a total of 804MB.
[16:02] <bazhang> tesgd, no cursing here
[16:02] <compdoc> Ho^Oh, I think some swap is a good thing. It rarely gets used, and thats how it should be. But if the system needs the space for a bit, the swap should be there
[16:02] <celthunder> _Marcus: with or without buffering
[16:02] <tesgd> which swear word?
[16:02] <_Marcus> celthunder: I dont know.
[16:03] <bazhang> tesgd, just dont please
[16:03] <frem> I'm trying to make an automatic provisioning file for a VM. I've got `DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive` set. But grub ignores that and pops up a dialog which requires interaction.
[16:03] <tesgd> :|
[16:03] <celthunder> _Marcus: look at the second line of free -m thats your real free ram
[16:04] <_Marcus> celthunder: So 590MB?
[16:04] <arcnewuss> i dont have any icons in nautilus
[16:04] <Ho^Oh> tesgd: What if you do not have a lot of ram on your machine?
[16:04] <celthunder> _Marcus: sounds more right.
[16:04] <pythonsnake> anyone know how to get cpupowerutils?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> !info cpupowerutils
[16:05] <biosystemaltered> hi!!!
[16:05] <biosystemaltered> i need help
[16:05] <tu-no> Hi, I'm having issues with the i915 drivers, whenever I try to initiate anything with OpenGL the application quits with "intel_do_flush_locked failed: Invalid argument"
[16:05] <arcnewuss> when you login a window manager what file tells the window manager what font and icons to use
[16:05] <tu-no> Where do I start looking to figure out this problem?
[16:06] <tesgd> Ho^Oh: Then you should use a lightweight distro, and stop doing things that are RAM-intensive on a computer that can't handle it
[16:06] <_Marcus> biosystemaltered: With what?
[16:06] <superuser_ir> after binding server i  must rename the named.conf.local to named.conf ?
[16:06] <celthunder> superuser_ir: no?
[16:06] <biosystemaltered> install hacker evolution duality
[16:06] <tesgd> Ho^Oh: Of course swap is a possible scenario, but it's the worst-case scenario in all situations
[16:07] <superuser_ir> celthunder : when rename it?
[16:07] <trevor69420> my swap is 2TB
[16:07] <trevor69420> lol
[16:07] <Dmole> lol fail
[16:07] <tesgd> 0_o
[16:07] <biosystemaltered> I downloaded the official site...
[16:07] <celthunder> superuser_ir: you shouldnt have to
[16:07] <biosystemaltered> but don't install...
[16:07] <celthunder> trevor69420: rofl start using all of it i want to watch
[16:08] <Dmole> I don't use swap I use /dev/shm/
[16:08] <tesgd> celthunder, trevor69420: I would pay to watch that
[16:08] <celthunder> Ho^Oh: for low ram you can try compcache it compresses everything in ram  uses a bit more cpu though
[16:08] <trevor69420> how much would you pay to watch that?
[16:09] <ikonia> trevor69420: please stop with the silly stuff
[16:09] <Dmole> if you pay after seeing it you would never have to pay because you would be long dead before it would be over
[16:09] <ikonia> trevor69420: I've asked you before, support discussion, no joking with issues/problems
[16:09] <tesgd> many thousands of dust particles
[16:09] <superuser_ir> celthunder : is bindin dns chashing time out?
[16:09] <ikonia> guys - please, stop with the joking around.
[16:09] <pythonsnake> grr
[16:10] <tesgd> you're right, the chat is terribly busy, must be confusing =s
[16:10] <kaitlyn_> Hello, I am trying to update my coputer and everything worked fine except google chrome. It gave me this error:
[16:10] <celthunder> pythonsnake: can you find the source an rpm or deb  file somewhere
[16:10] <ikonia> tesgd: thank you
[16:10] <kaitlyn_> hold on
[16:11] <celthunder> kaitlyn_: chrome or chromium
[16:11] <superuser_ir> if u binding dns server , how much time to caching it?
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: have you checked if power scaling is supported with your device in  Linux ?
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: it's pointless looking at other tools/fixing something that just doesn't work
[16:11] <celthunder> superuser_ir: what 48 hours max for other servers to update
[16:11] <kaitlyn_> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_17.0.963.65-r124586_i386.deb
[16:11] <kaitlyn_>   404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.227.98 80]
[16:11] <ikonia> superuser_ir: you set the cache time out in the config
[16:11] <ikonia> superuser_ir: I believe the default is 3 hours but I'd need to check
[16:11] <kaitlyn_> chrome
[16:11] <tesgd> url is incorrect :x
[16:12] <superuser_ir> please give me config address
[16:12] <ikonia> superuser_ir: pardon ?
[16:12] <tesgd> if you want to install chromium instead, and don't mind losing any plugins you currently have any installed
[16:12] <tesgd> kaitlyn: sudo apt-get remove chrome-browser | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/stable | sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:12] <gaussblurinc> hello! can i install 'Remember the Milk' under lxde or something similar?
[16:12] <theadmin> tesgd: You want &&, not | (| is a pipe)
[16:12] <tesgd> good to know, thanks
[16:12] <superuser_ir> ikonia: please give me config address?
[16:12] <pythonsnake> celthunder: yes
[16:12] <tesgd> need to change my scripts now :(
[16:13] <celthunder> kaitlyn_: file must have been renamed
[16:13] <celthunder> pythonsnake: so what happens when you install it
[16:13] <kaitlyn_> I would like to keep chrome, could it be becuase I had chrome open when i tryed to update it?
[16:13] <theadmin> tesgd: In your situation, this may work, but in most cases this will fail lol
[16:13] <ikonia> superuser_ir: I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by config address
[16:13] <tesgd> theadmin: Awesome, changing the scripts just in case, thanks again for the heads-up ^^
[16:14] <drklunk> hello
[16:14] <pythonsnake> ikonia: i found this https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19702
[16:15] <tesgd> kaitlyn_: No, that URL it's trying to get the ?update? from is non-existant
[16:15] <ikonia> pythonsnake: is that your hardware model ?
[16:15] <theadmin> tesgd: You can probably change your scripts easily by replacing every | with && like this in the whole file: sed 's/\|/\&\&/' your_file.sh
[16:15] <kaitlyn_> ohhhh, ok
[16:15] <pythonsnake> cpu yes
[16:15] <superuser_ir> ikonia: please give me config address?
[16:15] <pythonsnake> celthunder: install with rpm?
[16:16] <drklunk> i need some help, im having an issue with activating my graphics card
[16:16] <celthunder> pythonsnake: there is an app that lets you install rpms in ubuntu/debian yes
[16:16] <tesgd> thanks again theadmin, I need to learn regex :(
[16:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: the cpu is not the factor here, it's the chipset around it
[16:16] <tu-no> Have anyone else had trouble with the i915 chipset, when I try OpenGL, I get a fail with
[16:16] <lab14> hi griiffibn
[16:16] <tu-no> [drm:i915_gem_execbuffer_relocate_entry] *ERROR* Relocation beyond target object bounds: obj ffff880172d36a00 target 1 delta 32769 size 32768.
[16:16] <tu-no> Any ideas to where I should look, or how I go about to file a bug in Launchpad?
[16:16] <pythonsnake> ah
[16:16] <kaitlyn_> tesgd: so should i just wait until another update comes out from a valid url?
[16:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: do not install an rpm in Ubuntu
[16:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: first thing a.) check out if power scaling is supported with your device in linux
[16:16] <celthunder> drklunk: what about it what card what modules are you using etc
[16:16] <theadmin> tesgd: It's not too hard actually, though depends entirely on your mindset
[16:16] <dekokgri>  there
[16:16] <lab14> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiifffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[16:17] <ikonia> b.) based on that either work it forward with fixing the tools or accept that it's not going to work
[16:17] <celthunder> kaitlyn_: yeah
[16:17] <lab14> hi
[16:17] <ikonia> lab14: please don't do that
[16:17] <roberto> Hi i'm going to set up my ubuntu server as a PDC now. And I notice a lot of the PDC(ldap/samba) guides are for like ubuntu 7.*'s lol.  Are those guides still good for newer versions of ubuntu? I use 10.04 by the way
[16:17] <lab14> die in a hole
[16:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: what ever you do though, don't use the rpm
[16:17] <celthunder> lab14: ?
[16:17] <kaitlyn_> tesgd: Ok, thank you so much. :) good day!!
[16:17] <tesgd> theadmin: I'm a programmer, but I've been lazy with the few regex's I've needed by finding them online, I know there's lots of resources for it, I just have to set my mind to it
[16:17] <Jinxed--> How could I access a shared folder in a virtual machine running ubuntu with a samba share from my windows machine
[16:17] <lab14> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:17] <as001> Hi what was the name of program with which I can connect to remote server with ssh and edit files on remote server using text editor installed on my computer ?
[16:17] <tesgd> kaitlyn_: You too!
[16:17] <dekokgri> fooooooooolllllll
[16:17] <compdoc> roberto, good luck with that
[16:18] <dekokgri> eat yourself
[16:18] <Pici> Thats enough
[16:18] <celthunder> ikonia: there is a rpm installer somewhere.
[16:18] <roberto> compdoc: lol why do you say that?
[16:18] <ikonia> celthunder: so ?
[16:18] <ikonia> celthunder: you shouldn't do it
[16:18] <theadmin> tesgd: If you'll ever learn the Perl programming language, you'll come across regular expressions here and there, and will learn them eventually in no time, so :D
[16:18] <drklunk> celthunder: im on my laptop and its running a ATI Mobility Radeon 4200 HD, i tried using the hardware drivers GUI to activate it but with no luck. pulled an error report and think I found the problem
[16:18] <celthunder> ikonia: i dont..
[16:18] <Ho^Oh> roberto: That depends if the software for "PDC" has changed in most cases. Old tutorials seems to still work well for the newer versions of Ubuntu.
[16:18] <ikonia> celthunder: ok - so why are you recommending it to someone
[16:18] <tesgd> theadmin: As well as 50 different ways of implementing it, I'm sure ^^
[16:18] <vindav> good morning
[16:18] <tesgd> morning vindav
[16:18] <shivam7074> HELP PLEASE...http://imagebin.org/202331
[16:19] <compdoc> roberto, I love ubuntu and linux, but setting it up as a PDC is not quite the same as using an MS product
[16:19] <celthunder> ikonia: because he couldnt  find the source or a deb file.
[16:19] <roberto> compdoc: Heh I know it will be a fun little project :D
[16:19] <XanKriegor> is there a way to force a custom modeline with the proprietary nvidia driver? Somehow xrandr won't change to my custom modeline. Why is that?
[16:19] <theadmin> tesgd: Heh yeah, TMTOWTDI
[16:19] <celthunder> drklunk: so you are trying to use catalyst?
[16:19] <ikonia> celthunder: so recommending an incompatible software package is a fix ?
[16:19] <tu-no> is the package ubuntu-desktop needed?
[16:19] <roberto> Ho^Oh: Ok well it uses openldap (slapd) and samba. I think openldap has changed a bit
[16:19] <tesgd> shivam7074: Use "apt-get install minitube"
[16:19] <vindav> tesgd:  I'm here in Calgary using Ubuntu 11.1, and having some good success with it, and with this Ubuntu help channel.  There's much community assistance here in which I am very amazed with.
[16:20] <superuser_ir> ikonia: please give me config address?
[16:20] <ikonia> superuser_ir: what config address ?
[16:20] <celthunder> ikonia: nope its me not bothering to find the right package.
[16:20] <pythonsnake> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_TimelineX_4820TG same chipset, almost same cpu, and works
[16:20] <Ho^Oh> roberto: If you find a tutorial, you could check to see if: 1. All apt-get install commands are do-able (If packages still exists). 2. All configuration files you have to manually edit are still there (don't change anything).           You can then go about using the old tutorial.
[16:20] <ikonia> superuser_ir: I have no idea what you are talking about it
[16:20] <ikonia> celthunder: ok so please don't push it if you know it's a bad solution
[16:20] <tesgd> vindav: Vancouver, BC here, on and off of X/K/Ubuntu ^^
[16:21] <roberto> Ho^Oh: I just don't want to start a gigantic project only to find out it does not work well half way through the guide. This happened when I set up kerberos on my ubuntu. I followed 3 guides until I finally used one for debian actually and it worked lol.
[16:21] <Ho^Oh> roberto: I've used a lot of old tutorials and managed to have what I want, installed and running properly.
[16:21] <roberto> Ho^Oh: Ok will od , thanks
[16:21] <ikonia> pythonsnake: does that say power scaling is compatible
[16:21] <roberto> do*
[16:21] <pythonsnake> 17:11:41           ikonia | superuser_ir: you set the cache time out in the config - i think
[16:21] <superuser_ir> ikonia: u say i can config caching dns server ,where is config ?
[16:22] <ikonia> superuser_ir: it's in your names.conf (or named.conf.local on ubuntu)
[16:22] <superuser_ir> ikonia: u say i can config caching dns server timeout,where is config ?
[16:22] <pythonsnake> ikonia: yes, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_TimelineX_4820TG#Enable_CPU_Frequency_Scaling
[16:22] <vindav> tesgd:  Would you know how I would I be able to increase the number of desktop workspaces I have from 2 to say 4 in the least so that I could also move a window to any of these extra places ?
[16:22] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Also, how are you finding tutorials?          I usually google search for:   11.10/11.04 ubuntu   and then (app name I want to install).
[16:22] <shivam7074> HELP PLEASE...http://imagebin.org/202331
[16:23] <arcnewuss> vindav: dwm or fluxbox
[16:23] <ikonia> pythonsnake: so are you running the bios that wiki link suggests ?
[16:23] <theadmin> shivam7074: Provide the output of: sudo apt-get install minitube | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[16:23] <Ho^Oh> shivam7074: Can you please copy/paste the error message here please? (It'll be easier for me to help you).
[16:23] <pythonsnake> is hal running by default on ubuntu?
[16:23] <ikonia> pythonsnake: is dead
[16:23] <theadmin> pythonsnake: No, HAL is deprecated
[16:24] <pythonsnake> it seems to need it - DAEMONS=(acpid hal)
[16:24] <as001> i found nautilus has option connect to server..
[16:24] <vindav> arcnewuss:  what do I do with that ? Is that a terminal command ?
[16:24] <dime01> hi all
[16:24] <ikonia> pythonsnake: that may be the incompatiblity then
[16:24] <arcnewuss> vindav: both efficient window manager
[16:24] <ikonia> pythonsnake: looks like that wiki is out of date
[16:24] <pythonsnake> :(
[16:24] <dime01> Could somebody help me to make run java applet on firefox ?
[16:25] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you'll need to look at udev to see if that can provide the functionality needed
[16:25] <vindav> arcnewuss:  is that downloadable from the Ubuntu Software Centre ?
[16:25] <theadmin> !java | dime01
[16:25] <pythonsnake> This page was last modified on 27 June 2011 yeah
[16:25] <drklunk> im having trouble with my graphics card, is there anyone who could take a few minutes to help me?
[16:25] <celthunder> drklunk: dont pm me please and no catalyst is not compiz catalyst is the propretary module by ati
[16:25] <arcnewuss> vindav: fluxbox should be there
[16:25] <ikonia> pythonsnake: hal's been dead for 2 years.....so someone should have done better than that
[16:25] <roberto> Ho^Oh: Yeah I usually do that too. The 7.* guides just looked way more thorough.
[16:26] <ikonia> roberto: you need to be aware basically of the changes with ldap, things such as multi-master,
[16:26] <drklunk> celthunder: sorry, would you like to see the error log?
[16:26] <celthunder> drklunk: sure
[16:26] <ikonia> roberto: the actual ldap schema used for an AD domain has pretty much not changed at all in ldap 3
[16:26] <smplman> if im running X11 by itself and i launch wahlcade with .xinitrc then that launches another app (emulator) how can i bring it above wahlcade? or do i need some sort of minimal window manager?
[16:26] <arcnewuss> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[16:26] <Ho^Oh> roberto: You can then match that against the not-so-thorough tutorials then.
[16:27] <shivam7074> http://pastebin.com/iP2eNXaL
[16:27] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Sounds a bit vague, but at times, it really gets to that point. Link to tutorial you're using?
[16:27] <smplman> arcnewuss: is that for me?
[16:28] <celthunder> drklunk: use pastebin
[16:28] <arcnewuss> no but talking about minimal window manager it fits the requirements
[16:28] <vindav> arcnewuss:  ok, I've downloaded fluxbox, and I use Gnome instead of Unity.  Where would I find the prgm in Ubuntu now ?
[16:28] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Or could also like see why no never tutorials were made (Sometimes, people find it's better to use a different software for your purpose and they make new tutorials regarding that alternative software).
[16:28] <dr_willis> Lots of window managers out there.
[16:28] <tim167> hi, how can I connect my laptop and my desktop locally using their wifi ? (without using internet) thanks
[16:28] <roberto> Ho^Oh: ikonia:   Well i've decided to try this one I think. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1683595
[16:28] <drklunk> celthunder: how do I do that?
[16:29] <dr_willis> vindav,  on the login screen should be a fluxbox session
[16:29] <theadmin> shivam7074: Eh, so? Just hit Ok.
[16:29] <shivam7074> http://pastebin.com/iP2eNXaL
[16:29] <celthunder> arcnewuss: fluxbox is not minimal by any standard
[16:29] <dr_willis> tim167,  that would be an ad-hoc network i belive.
[16:29] <dime01> I've already install openjdk-6-jre and icedtea6-plugin
[16:29] <arcnewuss> vindav: logout and log back in fluxbox
[16:29] <arcnewuss> dwm?
[16:29] <celthunder> drklunk: pastebin.com
[16:29] <dime01> My browsers don't display java applet anymore
[16:30] <dime01> (Firefox and Chromium)
[16:30] <tim167> dr_willis: ah, ok so where do I set that up ?
[16:30] <pythonsnake> maybe it's just a power supply/ battery issue
[16:30] <_Marcus> dime01: Install newest version of Flash.
[16:30] <celthunder> dime01: do you have java installed and have yau given the applets permission to run
[16:30] <tim167> dr_willis: "create new wireless network" ?
[16:30] <arcnewuss> celthunder: would dwm be ok?
[16:31] <droid-0854> A
[16:31] <dime01> _Marcus What's the relation with Java ?
[16:31] <celthunder> Acegiak: by itself yes
[16:31] <dr_willis> tim167,  no idea. Not all wireless cards/drivers support the features. I  alwyas use a cheap router.
[16:31] <_Marcus> dime01: Wait. Install newest JAVA. Sorry, I was thinking about something
[16:31] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Woah, sounds like the tutorial might not work well,          Due to the fact that... Ubuntu 11.10 now uses  llightdm, so we're not going to have gnome2 here.  Unless you hack it in.
[16:31] <dr_willis> tim167,  done it a few timew over the last few years.
[16:31] <drklunk> celthunder: http://pastebin.com/jXhDLjZk why does your text show up red for me?
[16:31] <dime01> celthunder "have yau given the applets permission to run" --> what do you mean ? yau ?
[16:31] <shivam7074> i cant the arrow didnt detect it, means the hand doesnt comes???
[16:31] <dr_willis> drklunk,  people say your name and its red?
[16:31] <arcnewuss> celthunder: do you like monsterwm?
[16:32] <theadmin> shivam7074: Hit Tab, then Enter.
[16:32] <drklunk> that be the case dr_willis
[16:32] <dr_willis> drklunk,  feature of your irc client
[16:32] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Maybe you can do the similar thing with lightdm.            The tutorial asks for: mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf.nostart                      You can simply do         /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[16:32] <arcnewuss> celthunder: there are so many window manager out there we need some sort of measure right
[16:32] <drklunk> oh, ok, so its not any kind of whisper or PM
[16:32] <dime01> _Marcus How can I install newest Java ?
[16:32] <tim167> dr_willis: my purpose is just to share some files without having to use a physical medium...but I tried to set sharing options on folder on the desktop, and it complains that I have to install some Windows (!?) sharing thing...?
[16:33] <dr_willis> arcnewuss,  main measure would be the features you want in a wm.
[16:33] <roberto> Ho^Oh:  Well I use 10.04   Eh by the way check this out. It's a linux DC already made pretty much. It's a VM .iso you jsut boot up then configure.
[16:33] <roberto> http://www.resara.org/
[16:33] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Hmm, then that tutorial should work fine for you then.
[16:33] <dr_willis> tim167,  if the pcs are networked you can use samba (what windows uses) ssh, ftp, or other services?ways
[16:33] <_Marcus> dime01: www.java.com
[16:33] <ziglir> http://www.foodandtechconnect.com/site/2012/02/01/ramen-data-from-mouth-to-anus-m2a-smartpill/
[16:33] <roberto> Ho^Oh: I'm guessing it would use samba and ldap too though but idk
[16:34] <bazhang> ziglir, wrong channel
[16:34] <arcnewuss> dr_willis: the more desirable features there are with a minimum of superfluous features right?
[16:34] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Maybe even in 11.10, assuming ubuntu didn't changed things regarding samba.
[16:34] <Ho^Oh> roberto: Give it a go.
[16:34] <tim167> dr_willis: what do you mean by 'networked' ? they both have wifi card, but they are not connected to anything at the moment, that's what I want to find out, how to make a connection between them...
[16:34] <Ho^Oh> The only real change I notice is:     lightdm.
[16:34] <compdoc>  samba is upgraded whenever they release one - kinda independant of ubuntu
[16:34] <Daulity> hi all
[16:34] <dr_willis> arcnewuss,  vagueness is vague./ :)
[16:35] <shivam7074> sorry to bother again i run again terminal but this appears http://pastebin.com/cR20ZhqJ
[16:35] <Ho^Oh> compdoc: Sometimes, a customized version is added one or two versions behind the main website.
[16:35] <Daulity> i have a question the conmandline/terminal does it support letter coloring?
[16:35] <celthunder> arcnewuss: i use xmonad but light to me means by default its a wm not a full environment
[16:35] <dr_willis> tim167,  you need to set up some sort of peer-peer or ad-hoc network. then  you transfer stuff however you want.
[16:35] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: Yes it does.
[16:36] <dr_willis> Daulity,  bash/terminals normally support the ansi color codes.
[16:36] <tesgd> shivam7074: run fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[16:36] <celthunder> Daulity: some do some dont
[16:36] <schumbag> clean the cache
[16:36] <tim167> dr_willis: ok thanks for the tip, I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc ...
[16:36] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code           <---- Look here.
[16:36] <tesgd> shivam7074: might have to run as root
[16:36] <tesgd> shivam7074: but that will tell you what's open, and locking that directory atm
[16:36] <celthunder> dime01: the java applets usually should ask for permission to run....
[16:36] <Daulity> reason i am asking is i made a irc client and want certain words te be certain colors :)
[16:36] <arcnewuss> dr_willis: let x be the number of desirable features and y the number of undesirable features then a measure of desirability could be desirability=A*(x^a+y^b) where A>0, a in (0,1) and b(-1,0))
[16:36] <dime01> _Marcus I try with java.com
[16:37] <yader> is there another way to print instead of using usblp?
[16:37] <celthunder> Daulity: of course then... irssi weechat and ls all use color....
[16:37] <shivam7074> @tesgd wat to run in cottes please
[16:37] <ziglir> oer got hacked
[16:37] <celthunder> yader: cups?
[16:37] <dime01> cellthunder ok, So how can I set this permission ?
[16:37] <arcnewuss> I mean b in (-1, 0) sorry about that
[16:37] <bazhang> ziglir, what?
[16:37] <tesgd> shivam7074: Open your console, and enter "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[16:37] <celthunder> dime01: depends on your browser
[16:37] <dr_willis> cups is the printing service...   so all printing uses cups.. :)
[16:38] <celthunder> dr_willis: not all.
[16:38] <dr_willis> unless you are doing direct data dumping to the ports.
[16:38]  * dr_willis used to have serial printers years ago.
[16:38] <pythonsnake> maybe it's time to change distro again
[16:38] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: Run this into your terminal window: echo -e '\E[37;44m'"\033[1mContact List\033[0m"
[16:38] <tesgd> shivam7074: Once you run this, it should give you the name of an application which is locking that directory: It will be on the bottom, at the far-right
[16:38] <celthunder> pythonsnake: its always tiime for that
[16:38] <tesgd> shivam7074: Tell me what that is please
[16:38] <Daulity> i wanted to know what it was called so i could write some code for coloring :)
[16:38] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: Then have a look at this page: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/colorizing.html  -- "Colorizing Scripts"
[16:39] <tesgd> shivam7074: Will be right under "COMMAND"
[16:39] <Ho^Oh> A few examples.
[16:39] <dr_willis> Daulity,  ansi color codes, and the ncurses library/features is handy.
[16:39] <arcnewuss> dr_willis: how do you tell the window manager which font to use?
[16:39] <celthunder> dr_willis: serial printers were nice they just took data and spit it back....
[16:39] <dr_willis> arcnewuss,  which window manager?
[16:39] <DrDamnit> Ubuntu 10.10 server keeps ignoring that I have a static IP configured. After a certain (unknown) period of time, it tries to get an IP from DHCP, and takes itself offline because it is no longer at the right IP address. How to fix?
[16:39] <celthunder> arcnewuss: dependso on the wm
[16:39] <dime01> cellthunder Ok. First I try to update Java like say _Marcus and I will see permissions just after that
[16:39] <yaderv> celthunder, the pinter doesn't have a cups support
[16:39] <dr_willis> celthunder,  i used to have a fancy 'dot matrix' typewriter that also worked as a printer. :)
[16:39] <shivam7074> PID ACCESS COMMAND
[16:39] <arcnewuss> celthunder: dr_willis: say dwm
[16:39] <tesgd> shivam7074: Perfect, what does it say right under "COMMAND" ?
[16:39] <celthunder> DrDamnit: kill your network manager etc
[16:39] <dime01> celthunder Ok. First I try to update Java like say _Marcus and I will see permissions just after that
[16:39] <dr_willis> arcnewuss,  check the dwm docs and most likely its in the dwm configs.
[16:39] <shivam7074> sorry "2848 F.... dpkg"
[16:40] <Daulity> ncurses, also python?
[16:40] <tesgd> shivam7074: okay, does it ask you to kill the process? (y/n)
[16:40] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: More like a terminal text minipulating tool IIRC.
[16:40] <shivam7074> y
[16:40] <Daulity> cool
[16:40] <celthunder> dr_willis: dwm is c and you configure it via the code unless i am mistaken and thinxing of somethinf else
[16:40] <Ho^Oh> But someone might've ported something to do with ncurses into python.
[16:40] <Ho^Oh> Daulity: Did you see my example?
[16:40] <Daulity> yes
[16:40] <tesgd> shivam7074: last question before we end it, what are you trying to install/remove/update?
[16:40] <Ho^Oh> You can play around with that.
[16:41] <arcnewuss> celthunder: yes you configure it via the code
[16:41] <DrDamnit> celthunder: please elaborate.
[16:41] <celthunder> arcnewuss: still what he said should apply
[16:42] <celthunder> DrDamnit: kill your network manager ? kill anythiny thats managing the network
[16:42] <doc-sain1ly> Well - it looks like I got all my data back from my dropped raid. Thanks to everyone for your help.
[16:42] <celthunder> i cant simplify it much more
[16:42] <tesgd> doc-sain1ly: Awesome!
[16:42] <shivam7074> trying to install minitube
[16:42] <tesgd> shivam7074: okay that's fine then, go ahead and press "y" in your console to kill the process, and now you'll be able to install minitube
[16:42] <arcnewuss> celthunder: does the window manager pass its font setting to applications like browsers such as thunar or firefox?
[16:42] <DrDamnit> celthunder: I asked because none of the network managers are installed... What is the "etc" part of your sentence?
[16:43] <celthunder> arcnewuss: some try to but most have there own settings
[16:43] <arcnewuss> DrDamnit: I use wicd
[16:43] <arcnewuss> DrDamnit: sudo apt-get install wicd
[16:43] <celthunder> arcnewuss: he needs to disable his netmanagers not add more
[16:43] <arcnewuss> celthunder: thanks I am clueless
[16:43] <tesgd> what's the default network manager called?
[16:44] <tesgd> curiousity
[16:44] <DrDamnit> arcnewuss: I don't want an IP from DHCP. I want it to stay on the static IP I have set. Will wicd help that?
[16:44] <arcnewuss> celthunder: sudo apt-get purge network-manager
[16:44] <celthunder> tesgd: networking or something like that
[16:44] <tesgd> ah kk
[16:44] <celthunder> tesgd: i dont know i dont use it could be wrong
[16:44] <DrDamnit> celthunder: Package network-manager is not installed, so not removed
[16:44] <tesgd> celthunder: no worries, not too important
[16:44] <arcnewuss> DrDamnit: I use wicd excactly for that but make sure to get rid of network-manager
[16:44] <urgodfather> how do i access my linux partition if ubuntu is installed through wubi?
[16:45] <grendal-prime> ya this is werid
[16:45] <Mylena> Anyone know how I can find the source code of the HUD-Unity?
[16:46] <theadmin> urgodfather: It's stored inside the partition you installed to as a file, e.g. C:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk
[16:46] <Ho^Oh> urgodfather: http://superuser.com/questions/169347/how-do-i-access-files-inside-a-wubi-virtual-ext4-ubuntu-partition-from-within-wi
[16:46] <theadmin> Mylena: apt-get source unity
[16:46] <grendal-prime> mount.cifs works fine from cli...even in a script..but cron execution fails?
[16:46] <user2012> Lately I removed windows and installed Ubuntu. Like this I did 10 times on same laptop in a month! I don't know why I keep doing it over and over...
[16:47] <shivam7074> no now this happens http://pastebin.com/3zvw3SRT
[16:47] <tesgd> celthunder: It's called network-manager
[16:47] <ndkelly> Hi
[16:47] <urgodfather> Ho^Oh: theadmin thanks
[16:47] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Maybe you just want to torture your previous Windows install o_O
[16:48] <ndkelly> If i wanted to play around in xfce for a while to test it, and removed Gnome completely, say i then removed xfce and re-installed gnome, would my preferences be the same?
[16:48] <ndkelly> Or would i have to re-adjust things again
[16:48] <tesgd> Ho^Oh: ROFL
[16:48] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Really, why would you need to keep reinstalling Ubuntu?
[16:48] <Mylena> thanks
[16:48] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Hardware issues? Unity/Gnome 3 not working?
[16:48] <vlt> ndkelly: You should be able to use XFCE AND Gnome
[16:48] <user2012> I use ubuntu for 1-2 days then I feel some useful apps missing and just format it and install windows
[16:48] <user2012> No hardware issues
[16:48] <shivam7074> no now this happens http://pastebin.com/3zvw3SRT
[16:49] <ndkelly> vlt, I installed xfce earlier, and logged into an xfce session, but it sort of merged the two.
[16:49] <mosno> another happy customer!
[16:49] <ndkelly> So i only had one panel at the bottom.
[16:49] <Ho^Oh> I have not reinstalled or even turned off my system since I instaleld Ubuntu on my newly pruchased computer..
[16:49] <Ho^Oh> Uptime: 31 days, 12 hours and 3 minutes
[16:49] <arcnewuss> user2012: windows seems to work without problems right
[16:49] <ndkelly> With tasks/battery/wifi etc all on one bar.
[16:49] <urgodfather> Ho^Oh: which tool do u recommend for another linux system to use?
[16:49] <Ho^Oh> user2012: You just need to find alternatives to the softwares you like using in Windows.
[16:50] <user2012> can't blame anything about windows, but I love ubuntnu too and I hate dual boot
[16:50] <arcnewuss> user2012: there are no reliable alternative to windows
[16:50] <waxstone> user2012: dual boot OS's
[16:50] <tesgd> shivam7074: Restart your computer and try again, reset everything so nothing can be locking anything
[16:50] <Ho^Oh> urgodfather: Since theadmin posted something about the C:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk,          first step is to find a tool that can read your C:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk.          Do you intend to change what's inside       C:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk?
[16:50] <superuser_ir> plz help : "http://pastebin.com/FzsgWZbg"
[16:50] <mosno> user2012: virtualbox mihgt work for you, depending on your needs
[16:50] <urgodfather> just extract my files
[16:50] <arcnewuss> user2012:  windows is rock solid
[16:50] <theadmin> urgodfather: You can use ext2read, an Ubuntu livecd, or something else.
[16:51] <urgodfather> Ho^Oh: just extract my files
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> user2012  maybe this link is useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly
[16:51] <theadmin> urgodfather: I suggest just using an Ubuntu livecd.
[16:51] <Ho^Oh> urgodfather: Then that's do-able, did you see the link I posted?
[16:51] <shivam7074> how to reset, n please teach some thing abt locking  thing???
[16:51] <c_smith> hello, I'm trying to compile a program, and I get an error about FreshExport.h not existing, is there some package I should be installing?
[16:51] <user2012> how do i get username infront of mssg
[16:51] <ikonia> c_smith: what are you trying to compile ?
[16:52] <dr_willis> user2012,  what do you mean?
[16:52] <urgodfather> theadmin: then why wouldnt my desktop see it.. its running 11.10 native
[16:52] <theadmin> urgodfather: Eh, you need to mount it
[16:52] <dr_willis> !find FreshExport.h
[16:52] <Ho^Oh> user2012: What softwares do you miss using in WIndows?
[16:52] <vlt> user2012: Type it or use autocompletion of your IRC client.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> user2012  type 2-3 characters of the nick and then [tab]
[16:52] <user2012> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:52] <urgodfather> theadmin: ok, mount the partition, then mount that *.disk file
[16:53] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Sometimes, you may have to type 4 or even 5 letters.
[16:53] <theadmin> urgodfather: Pretty much so yeah
[16:53] <arcnewuss> user2012, hello friend
[16:53] <c_smith> yeah, I googled FreshExport.h, not very helpful, the closest link to being helpful was an IDE.
[16:53] <urgodfather> theadmin: fair enough... just didnt want to go poking around in things i shouldnt
[16:53] <dr_willis> c_smith,  sounds like somthing the guy writing the progeram made up.
[16:53] <user2012> Ho^Oh, mostly office word I guess
[16:54] <urgodfather> theadmin: thanks again
[16:54] <urgodfather> Ho^Oh: thanks again
[16:54] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Try OpenOffice or LibreOffice.
[16:54] <c_smith> dr_willis, Monkey Studio IDE mentions it.
[16:54] <vindav> arcnewuss:  I'm back now after some frustration.  I now have 4 workspaces, but still cannot drag a window into another workspace.  How do I enable this feature ?  BTW, when I use crtl+alt+tab, I do not get rotating windows to select.
[16:54] <c_smith> dr_willis, actually, it mentions a macro called Fresh_Export...... my bad.
[16:55] <Ho^Oh> Just a little note... Microsoft purposely would try to make it harder for OpenOffice/Libre to understand their text documents.        You should save your files as a microsoft file format if you expect people who opens your documents using Microsot Office to read your documents.
[16:55] <DrDamnit> any other thoughts on how / why I keep losing my static IP address?
[16:55] <c_smith> oh, hey, after googling a bit more, looks like it's part of QT4.
[16:55] <arcnewuss> vindav: I think you can send window to specific workspace with rightclick?
[16:56] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Or tell your friend to also use Openoffice or Libre office as it's free. :D
[16:56] <trevor69420> DrDamnit can u paste your network settings?
[16:56] <tim167> hello, i have my two computers connected over a wireless ad hoc now, but how do I transfer files between them? thanks
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  disable network manager and modify /etc/network/interfaces manually
[16:56] <trevor69420> DrDamnit, paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[16:56] <Ayrton> Hello everyone. I seted up a openvpn server, and trying to access it through a socks proxy with the command "openvpn --socks-proxy localhost 1080 --config client.ovpn" I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873096/
[16:56] <arcnewuss> vindav: I am pretty sure you cannot drag. sorry about the misunderstanding
[16:56] <Ho^Oh> tim167: You need to enable file sharing for the computers in question.
[16:56] <shivam7074> how to reset, n please teach some thing abt locking  thing???
[16:56] <dr_willis> tim167,  samba, ssh, sshfs, nfs, ftp. or any service like that.
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> shivam7074  reset what, exactly?
[16:57] <ndkelly> May have found the problem. Earlier, i installed xubuntu-desktop and not just xfce4
[16:57] <trevor69420> shivam7074, reset what?
[16:57] <user2012> Ho^Oh, I enjoy reading forums and chat, but sometimes this feels toomuch like a part time job, finding what program I should chose or fix any issue. When this really gets me after a day or two I go back and reinstall windows
[16:57] <DrDamnit> http://pastebin.com/8Mnh8zFe
[16:57] <DrDamnit> MonkeyDust: network-manager package is not installed.
[16:57] <vindav> arcnewuss:  yes, that is correct that I can send a window to specific workplaces.  I am working on trying to communicate better so that others can understand my intentions rather than assuming they know my thoughts   :D
[16:57] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Not really for me, Just search for waht you want using Ubuntu Software Center.
[16:57] <trevor69420> DrDamnit, is that the interface you want static?
 shivam7074: Restart your computer and try again, reset everything so nothing can be locking anything
[16:57] <DonD> when i ftp my server i dont have root access, how can i give my user root access ?
[16:57] <DrDamnit> yes
[16:57] <tim167> Ho^Oh: ok, but how do I do that?
[16:57] <DrDamnit> trevor69428: yes.
[16:58] <user2012> anyone play WoW using wine ?
[16:58] <arcnewuss> vindav: its not you its me...
[16:58] <dr_willis> DonD,  why do you need root access over ftp?
[16:58] <Ho^Oh> user2012: Like "IM",  "Messenger",       "Presentation".
[16:58] <trevor69420> DonD it is not usually recommended to FTP as Root
[16:58] <dr_willis> user2012,  its well documented on Wine and WoW at the wine app database.
[16:58] <trevor69420> for obvious security reasons
[16:58] <DonD> dr_willis, to delete files in /var/www/
[16:58] <DonD> and add files
[16:58] <dr_willis> DonD,  you would be best using ssh/scp for that.
[16:58] <trevor69420> DonD u don need to be root for that
[16:58] <superuser_ir> plz help : "http://pastebin.com/FzsgWZbg"
[16:58] <trevor69420> if you set your permissions correctly DonD
[16:58] <DonD> it says i dont have access
[16:58] <DonD> ok how? :D
[16:59] <vindav> arcnewuss:  would you know how to use CompizConfig settings manager to get the rotating windows and to allow for the dragging of windows to another workspace ?
[16:59] <DonD> im connected to port 22
[16:59] <trevor69420> well you can either use SSH like dr_willis says
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> superuser_ir  what is the question, in human language, please
[16:59] <trevor69420> do u have access to the console currently DonD?
[16:59] <DonD> yes
[16:59] <trevor69420> ok...
[16:59] <arcnewuss> vindav: I have never used dragging of windows
[16:59] <Ho^Oh> DonD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !pm| superuser_ir
[17:00] <meegooo> is it possible to see content of my clipboard without installing any software ?
[17:00] <minixvbox> !here | superuser_ir
[17:00] <trevor69420> DonD: sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www
[17:00] <arcnewuss> vindav: i like to use atl-#workspace it is very quick
[17:00] <Ho^Oh> By default, root has no password and it's not intended to be used directly.         Unlocking root (giving it a password) is like hoping into car, and then removing the seatbealts your should be using.
[17:00] <harshvardhan_> hii i need help, i have ubuntu installed within my windows, n today i faced a strange problem,, "Cannot find GRLDR",, i can not boot my ubuntu,, please help in solving it,, thanx in advance..
[17:00] <tesgd> shivam7074: To restart your computer, go to command line again, and type in "sudo reboot"
[17:01] <trevor69420> DonD what ever user you are currently logged on as will have full write access and read access to that /var/www
[17:01] <arcnewuss> shivam7074: or sudo shutdown -r now
[17:01] <harshvardhan_> hii i need help, i have ubuntu installed within my windows, n today i faced a strange problem,, "Cannot find GRLDR",, i can not boot my ubuntu,, please help in solving it,, thanx in advance..
[17:01] <vindav> arcnewuss:  I do appreciate the tip.
[17:01] <DonD> trevor69420, thank you! now i have access :D
[17:01] <Ho^Oh> DonD: Enable root using this command: sudo passwd root        (Giving root password),              To disable root again, use: sudo passwd -dl root
[17:02] <trevor69420> no prob DonD :-) glad i could help
[17:02] <tesgd> vindav: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39849/can-i-drag-a-window-onto-another-workspace
[17:02] <trevor69420> !root
[17:02] <trevor69420> !root | Ho^Oh
[17:03] <Ho^Oh> trevor69420: I've already seen the above. -.-, I thought he/she wanted root for something, and I already posted that link.
[17:03] <minixvbox> !noroot | Ho^Oh
[17:04] <tesgd> !rppt
[17:04] <tesgd> !root
[17:04] <arcnewuss> !root
[17:04] <DrDamnit> Is there anything wrong with my IP config (http://pastebin.com/8Mnh8zFe) that would cause it to lose it's config randomly?
[17:04] <arcnewuss> !rppt
[17:04] <tesgd> !wfm
[17:04] <arcnewuss> !wfm
[17:04] <minixvbox> arcnewuss: stop it please
[17:05] <meegooo> why there is no /dev/clip in ubuntu ?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> meegooo  why is a philosophical question,, better ask "how" to do something
[17:06] <meegooo>  MonkeyDust: is it sheldon there ;) ?
[17:06] <tesgd> How do I get someone to explain to him why there is no /dev/clip in Ubuntu?
[17:07] <arcnewuss> what font do you use in firefox?
[17:07] <minixvbox> tesgd: i've never heard of /dev/clip whats it meant for?
[17:08] <DrDamnit> Could upgrading to natty fix my IP problem?
[17:08] <meegooo> minixvbox: i mean clipboard
[17:08] <tesgd> minixvbox: I have no idea, was continuing the conversation between meegooo and MonkeyDust =)
[17:08] <arcnewuss> all my firefox fonts look very strange
[17:08] <magicJ> dmesg reports in seconds since the system booted.  How do I get the seconds into the epoch at which the system did boot so I can convert these?
[17:09] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: Upgrading ubuntu is not going to fix that.
[17:09] <vindav> tesgd:  Thank you for the link; I made the change as seen in it, but I still can't drag windows to another workspace, but only in my current workspace I can do it.
[17:09] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh... I figured.
[17:09] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: That's some weird gateway IP you haev there.
[17:09] <meegooo> MonkeyDust: in fact i want to see content of my clipboard
[17:09] <Ho^Oh> Does it have to be static?
[17:10] <tesgd> vindav: Unfortunately I won't be of much help beyond that link
[17:10] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: That's the right gateway. This server is on a public static IP. It is a /28 network.
[17:10] <trevor69420> DrDamnit, is that an interface direct to your ISP
[17:10] <trevor69420> ?
[17:10] <trevor69420> oh
[17:10] <trevor69420> that explains that
[17:10] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: Change it back to automatic dhcp using network manager. Then right click on network manager on taskbar/notification bar and select "INFO".
[17:10] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh. There is no GUI. This is the server install.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> meegooo  try xclip
[17:11] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: Network manager was uninstalled because it is a known issue.
[17:11] <tesgd> meegooo: or Klipper for KDE
[17:11] <DrDamnit> I just ran: sudo apt-get purge dhcp3-client
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> ah KDE
[17:11] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: I just ran "sudo apt-get purge dhcp3-client" think that will do it?
[17:12] <meegooo> MonkeyDust: so it's not possilbe to check it wihtout xclip
[17:12] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: Not sure. Does it even connect to internet?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> meegooo  there's also xsel
[17:13] <Ho^Oh> Losing configuration may be caused my an automated process/running background program you might've installed
[17:13] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: Yes. Works fine for a couple of hours, then something happnes, and it decides that it wants a DHCP address, takes itself offline, and no one can get to it until I run /etc/init.d/networking restart from the console.
[17:13] <tesgd> meegooo: The problem happens because Xorg takes a conservative approach to copying. It copies only a reference to the original data when the user performs a select or copy. It doesn't go and retrieve the actual data from the source program until the user requests a paste. It saves a lot of unneeded transfer of data this way, at the expense of having no way of retrieving data from a closed program that hasn't saved its clipboard somewhere else.
[17:14] <tesgd> meegooo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence (assuming you've closed the original program)
[17:14] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: I think it's a good idea to investigate the softwares you installed to ubuntu server...
[17:15] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: It's my standard setup. LAMP and all the stuff that goes with it. Nothing special.
[17:16] <superuser_ir> help me for errors "http://pastebin.com/f0ATVZSG"
[17:16] <Ho^Oh> DrDamnit: How did you installed lamp? o_O     Even a lamp install wouldn't do that.
[17:16] <meegooo> tesgd: thanks, got it
[17:16] <Ho^Oh> Might want to check for cron scripts.
[17:16] <minixvbox> !here | superuser_ir
[17:16] <tesgd> meegooo: No worries!
[17:17] <DrDamnit> Ho^Oh: This is my standard script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873297/
[17:17] <meegooo> tesgd: in fact, i didn't know why closing a program causes losing clipboard
[17:17] <meegooo> tesgd: that was what i was looking for
[17:17] <tesgd> meegooo: I guess I should become a psychic?
[17:18] <meegooo> tesgd: haha
[17:19] <Ho^Oh> meegooo: I think it's linux weird way, I've gotten used to it. :S
[17:20] <Ho^Oh> So I would have a lot of text editors opened and use those for clipboards.
[17:21] <tesgd> is there a command to remove a folder that isn't empty?
[17:21] <Pici> tesgd: rm -rf
[17:22] <GLaDOSv2> hi all, apt-get upgrade over ssh was interrupted by a netwerk failure, now the system is broken, how do I fix it? for instance, proftpd isn't working
[17:22] <tesgd> Pici: oh of course, thanks :D
[17:24] <P4C0> Hello, has anyone use acl (setfacl) that can give me a hand?
[17:24] <venon> unable to-find a medium containing a live file system error when installing             PLEASE HELP
[17:24] <theadmin> P4C0: yes?
[17:24] <venon> When i install ubuntu from USB
[17:24] <infernal> Hello can anyone help me setup my write permissions. I allready did sudo chown -R infernal:www-data cms AND sudo chmod -R 777 cms, but i still get  http://pastebin.com/fwDKW96y
[17:25] <venon> unable to-find a medium containing a live file system error when installing   ubuntu from USB          PLEASE HELP
[17:25] <P4C0> theadmin: thanks, I'm trying to change the default permission of a directory, it works fine, but if I have files with different permissions on other directory and copy them there, the permissions are preserved :( not sure why
[17:25] <bazhang> venon, wubi install? live cd? usb or what
[17:25] <pung> how does apt-get dist-downgrade work? would like to revert install?
[17:25] <bazhang> pung no
[17:25] <compdoc> dont think so
[17:25] <theadmin> P4C0: I think that's normal.
[17:25] <GLaDOSv2> anyone for this? "apt-get upgrade over ssh was interrupted by a netwerk failure, now the system is broken, how do I fix it? for instance, proftpd isn't working"
[17:25] <P4C0> theadmin: I mean for new files, the permissions set with setfacl are used, but if I copy files the original permissions are preserved, is it possible to overwrite them somehow?
[17:25] <Wynn> How do I launch a Base form from another Base form in OO?
[17:26] <venon> bazhand usb
[17:26] <venon> read
[17:26] <Pici> pung: Theres no such thing as dist-downgrade.
[17:26] <theadmin> P4C0: I dunno if you can... Sorry
[17:26] <bazhang> Wynn, openoffice?
[17:26] <P4C0> theadmin: thanks
[17:26] <theadmin> P4C0: umask probably, though
[17:26] <Wynn> bazhang: Yes.... The OO channel is a ghosttown....
[17:26] <theadmin> P4C0: Again, probably. Not sure.
[17:27] <bazhang> venon, so the iso had a problem being written to usb. you did this with unetbootin or what
[17:32] <infernal> So can any one help me figure out why isn't my folders writable?
[17:33] <Wynn> Does anyone know of another channel besides #openoffice.org to get Base info? The docs are minimal at best.
[17:33] <XanKriegor> Hey everybody. Is there a way to force a custom modeline with the proprietary nvidia driver? Somehow xrandr won't change to my custom modeline. Any ideas?
[17:34] <sacarlson> infernal: maybe your permitions are set wrong,  see chmod  and chown,  or maybe the file system is mounted read only
[17:34] <waxstone> infernal: right click them and check permissions
[17:34] <infernal> these are definatly not the problems, as i have checked and the permissions are set correctly
[17:35] <waxstone> infernal, what is the error message you get?
[17:35] <sacarlson> infernal: and mounting? $mount | pastebinit
[17:36] <infernal> well can you really mount the os on read only?
[17:37] <sacarlson> infernal: yes you can
[17:37] <infernal> http://pastebin.com/PaLHn2v2
[17:37] <infernal> what commands to see the mounts?
[17:37] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> how do i connect to my msmsg account here and talk to my old messenger contacts?
[17:38] <sacarlson> infernal: and that wasn't the mount,  also you can't change permistions on ntfs file system also
[17:38] <tesgd> h0ly_gh0st_rec0n: Pidgin
[17:38] <Mech0z> if Data2/NZB points to Home/Data2/NZB how do I make a path that points to my folder on filesystem (Next to var, bin etc)
[17:38] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> is pidgin an app i know it as a language LOL
[17:38] <venon> bazhang no i do it witch program who is in  System - Administration - last  ....
[17:39] <venon> *with
[17:39] <infernal> sacarlson: that wasnt the mount, that was for waxstone, and its ext4
[17:39] <tesgd> h0ly_gh0st_rec0n: http://www.anewmorning.com/2009/01/02/10-best-instant-messengers-for-linux/
[17:39] <sacarlson> infernal: oh and you want the user www-data to write to it?  then there is another problem with that
[17:39] <drklunk> anyone make the switch to 12.04LTS?
[17:39] <infernal> sacarlson: well whats the problem?
[17:39] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> great thanks for the link!
[17:39] <tesgd> h0ly_gh0st_rec0n: http://www.pidgin.im/
[17:39] <tesgd> h0ly_gh0st_rec0n: no worries!
[17:39] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> ah ok pidgin.im got it
[17:40] <bazhang> venon, what is it? usb-creator or something else
[17:40] <bazhang> drklunk, 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:40] <sacarlson> infernal: www-data is setup to only be permited to write to a certain folder by default
[17:40] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> can i help you with anything?
[17:40] <venon> i have slovak language .... i dont know
[17:40] <venon> but it was installed when i install ubuntu
[17:40] <drklunk> bazhang, thanks, sorry about that
[17:40] <venon> bazhang
[17:41] <jpic> hi all, just wanted to drop by and say that postgresql package shouldn't contain so much ubuntu specific hacks
[17:41] <sipior> jpic: file a bug, if it bothers you.
[17:41] <bazhang> venon, well from that error, you will need to check the md5 of the iso, then re"burn" the iso to the usb stick
[17:41] <sacarlson> infernal: it's called aparmer
[17:41] <bazhang> !md5 | venon
[17:41] <h0ly_gh0st_rec0n> ok tes i'm outta here. thanks again OUT
[17:41] <jpic> sipior: i should, but postgresql is not mysql, it's for lazy sysadmins xD
[17:42] <bazhang> sacarlson, apparmor?
[17:42] <infernal> sacarlson: well i used it to setup cakePHP from the root of the current project, and it worked for it. On top of that it semi worked for the addon cms im tryin to get running, it negated 2 errors, but there are 2 more left.
[17:42] <venon> bazhang MD5  ?,
[17:42] <sacarlson> bazhang: infernal: correct apparmor
[17:42] <bazhang> venon, read the link please
[17:42] <sacarlson> http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Mod_apparmor_example
[17:42] <jpic> jk, i guess i'll figure it out, just seems like a little waste of time thought that's not much frustration
[17:43] <bazhang> !hashes | venon
[17:44] <venon> bazhang so just check for errors ?
[17:44] <bazhang> venon, md5 the iso, correct, you have a link to the hash as well there. then re"burn " the iso to the usb stick
[17:44] <sacarlson> infernal: but this directory /var/www/cms/tmp/cache  I would think would be within the apparmor limits if you don't have any symbolic links out of that /var/www
[17:46] <igor_> i cant get a movie to play
[17:46] <bazhang> igor_, which player, what format
[17:46] <igor_> i have tried green lantern
[17:47] <bazhang> igor_, not the movie title
[17:47] <venon> bazhang but i just want resize my disk partition
[17:47] <igor_> with vlc and movie player
[17:47] <bazhang> igor_, this is a dvd disc or something other
[17:47] <igor_> oh. a dvd
[17:47] <igor_> yes dvd disc
[17:48] <trevor69420> venon u want to resize your partition?
[17:48] <infernal> sacarlson: right, i trying to understand how is it going to help
[17:48] <bazhang> igor_, and you got the libdvdcss2 package from medibuntu.org ?
[17:48] <venon> trevor69420 yess but i heard that its is possible only in the live cd
[17:48] <igor_> i installed it from synaptic pkg mgr
[17:48] <bazhang> venon, with what
[17:49] <BabeLing> hi
[17:49] <sacarlson> infernal: how apparmor helps?  it's what I think is causing your problem as it's installed and used in appache in ubuntu by default
[17:49] <bazhang> igor_, you got the medibuntu repos? or just the single package
[17:49] <superuser_ir> how to solve this error ?  "no TTL specified; using SOA MINTTL instead"
[17:49] <bazhang> venon, the gparted live cd can do it as well 60mb iso
[17:50] <igor_> i installed everything that applied in synaptic
[17:50] <sacarlson> infernal: it limits the appache application to only read and or write to the space allowed by apparmor
[17:50] <Jake2> "image is a 4gb SD image (the last partition is used as SDcard in CM7 so you can resize this partition to fill up your whole card if your card is bigger than 4gb)." more...
[17:50] <Guest70771> ?????
[17:50] <Jake2> how do I do the resize?
[17:50] <bazhang> igor_, from the medibuntu repos? or just the single package. you would have had to add the repo yourself
[17:50] <venon> have to burn it on cd  bazhang ?
[17:50] <bazhang> venon, or to usb stick yes
[17:51] <igor_> i dont remember
[17:51] <venon> bazhang pls dwnlad link ?
[17:51] <bazhang> igor_, then get the package from medibuntu.org and install it
[17:51] <igor_> install the repository?
[17:51] <igor_> then the pkg?
[17:52] <bazhang> igor_, just the single .deb
[17:53] <venon> bazhang how i run it all the same as installation xp ?
[17:53] <trevor69420> venon, if you are trying to resize the hard drive that is active (i.e. the one ubuntu is installed on) it is correct you need to use a live CD
[17:53] <bazhang> venon, distrowatch.com has the link for gparted live cd
[17:53] <igor_> said it was already installed
[17:53] <infernal> sacarlson: well as far as i can tell the module does not exist on my machine. I looked over the  /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and found nothing. sudo a2enmod apparmor returns ERROR: Module apparmor does not exist!
[17:54] <bazhang> venon, you boot from the live cd, thats how
[17:54] <mosdef100200> Hi there know its a stupid thing to ask and will prob get slammed for asking but does anyone know of an autorun/autostart script for Linux or if there is such a thing?
[17:54] <trevor69420> venon: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[17:54] <trevor69420> venon download the iso and burn it like any bootable ISO
[17:54] <trevor69420> pop it in the drive boot from the disk and thats basically it
[17:54] <bazhang> mosdef100200, startup applications? in there? or something other
[17:54] <sacarlson> infernal: I see appache touch by apparmor here /etc/apparmor/severity.db
[17:55] <igor_> still wont play
[17:55] <trevor69420> if u need a wlk through on using it then message me and i can step you through the process
[17:55] <mosdef100200> ermm something like an autorun.inf for linux???
[17:55] <mosdef100200> does that make sense?
[17:55] <magicJ> mosdef100200:  nice thing about this room - you will not get slammed - ubuntu supports "start up" applications by account and there is upstart for system wide things - what do you want to do
[17:55] <bazhang> mosdef100200, to do what?
[17:55] <venon> bazhang i havent got live cd just usb and its writing eror i wrote....
[17:55] <sacarlson> infernal: I also failed to see how you have parts of your /var/www mounted
[17:55] <bazhang> venon, yes, and I told you how to fix that
[17:56] <trevor69420> venon can u just download the GPARTED live CD? would that make it easier?
[17:56] <infernal> sacarlson: i don't know how to find the information you need, what command do i use?
[17:56] <mosdef100200> Ok I have a flash projector file in which i would like the .exe to run as soon as it is recognised as a usb device and start up the .exe file
[17:56] <trevor69420> u dont have to use ubuntu live cd to do it if you are having issues with it
[17:56] <igor_> i cant install the repository either
[17:56] <mosdef100200> Like a cd/dvd  would #
[17:56] <dr_willis> gparted luve cd is a must have in your toolbox
[17:56] <trevor69420> mosdef100200, that sounds like a windows qusting
[17:57] <bazhang> igor_, you dont need it if that package is installed
[17:57] <igor_> ok
[17:57] <trevor69420> question*
[17:57] <infernal> sacarlson: also there is no severity.db
[17:57] <igor_> dvd disc still dont play
[17:57] <mosdef100200> yes thats right in windows up to vista i can run autorun.inf
[17:57] <venon> trevor69420 i havent got live cd ....... when i burn it from my ubuntu its not botting ... and when i write it on usb its showing errors
[17:57] <mosdef100200> but i was wondering if there was such a thing for linux?
[17:57] <trevor69420> mosdef100200, well u arent gonna be able to run the exe on linux
[17:57] <trevor69420> it's an exe
[17:57] <trevor69420> which is for windows
[17:57] <mosdef100200> no i understand that!
[17:57] <magicJ> trevor69420: I don't agree - he wants to know how to do somethign that he knows how to do in Windoze and not yet in Linux, I think at least, which is why I answreed him
[17:57] <bazhang> venon, you are repeating, and I have told you what to do for that
[17:57] <mosdef100200> OH YEAH
[17:58] <trevor69420> venon: can u get the live CD?>
[17:58] <dr_willis> autoruning is anniying
[17:58] <mosdef100200> good point!
[17:58] <mosdef100200> damn it im silly!
[17:58] <mosdef100200> thank you
[17:58] <FloodBot1> mosdef100200: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <mosdef100200> your absolutely right!
[17:58] <igor_> movie player says cnt read dvd
[17:58] <mosdef100200> maybe through wine?
[17:58] <magicJ> mosdef100200: who is absolutely right - ME I ASSUME
[17:58] <trevor69420> igor_ have u tried VLC?
[17:58] <mosdef100200> yes! about the .exe
[17:58] <venon>  OK so gparted live cd its must to be in iso ? on cd ?
[17:58] <sacarlson> infernal: is there a directory /etc/apparmor ?
[17:58] <igor_> yes it just does nothing
[17:58] <venon> or usb ?
[17:58] <magicJ> mosdef100200: as previously asked - what do you want to do
[17:59] <igor_> just sits there
[17:59] <trevor69420> venon well that's what i use yes... the CD
[17:59] <bazhang> venon, on usb is okay, as I said
[17:59] <trevor69420> you can do either but go to the link isent you
[17:59] <infernal> sacarlson: yes there is
[17:59] <trevor69420> and download the one you want... it sounds like you are having issues with the USB venon so i am simply suggesting it might be easier to just use the CD version
[17:59] <venon> bazhang i undrst but on usb it has to be iso ? or normal foldiers
[17:59] <bazhang> venon, the iso
[17:59] <trevor69420> venon: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[17:59] <dr_willis> !burn
[18:00] <bazhang> venon, using unetbootin or similar to burn it to usb
[18:00] <mosdef100200> Oh its ok i think i cant do it on linux I am trying to run an autostart program called a flash projector but I can only get it in mac and windows versions so linux is out of the question anyway I think
[18:00] <trevor69420> venon: if you want to use the USB follow these instructions: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php
[18:00] <thomas__> does anyone know how to run an iso image of win 7 to run next to ubuntu please?
[18:00] <mosdef100200> thanks for all the help!
[18:00] <sacarlson> infernal: and do you see apache2 touched by it?  cd /etc/apparmor; grep -r apache2 *
[18:00] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has several tools to put iso on usb
[18:01] <igor_> disc will spin up but does nothing
[18:01] <trevor69420> gparted includes all the tools to do it right on their site
[18:01] <igor_> in vlc
[18:01] <trevor69420> i dont understand what the issue is venon: just follow the instructions for linux on gparted's site to get it on the USB stick... again that link is http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php
[18:02] <igor_> i dont know what i'm doing wrong
[18:02] <sacarlson> infernal: the mount info can be seen as stated before above $mount | pastebinit ;  you should be sure to see rw not ro in mounts inside /var/www
[18:02] <trevor69420> igor_ is the disk mounting on the computer
[18:03] <venon> trevor 69420 i am
[18:03] <Evil_taco> So some one told me that I'm was there dream user for Ubuntu.  Just an end user....   Is that bad or good?
[18:04] <trevor69420> venon then what is the issue? it's not working?
[18:04] <igor_> it shows that it is mounted
[18:04] <drklunk> im having an issue reactivating my video card, anyone got a few minutes to help me?
[18:04] <trevor69420> can you just burn the ISO to CD and get away with that venon?
[18:05] <venon> trevor69420 omg i am just looking on  instruction
[18:05] <venon> burn on usb
[18:05] <igor_> i even right click image on desktop and told it to be opened in vlc
[18:05] <igor_> vlc open and nothing happen
[18:06] <trevor69420> venon: clearly you arent doing something right the USB is a buit more complex... can you just burn it to CD instead of using the flash drive
[18:06] <trevor69420> it'd be alot freaking easier venon instead of us trying to figure out what you are doing wrong running it on USB
[18:07] <AdvoWork> how can i upgrade to the latest version of google chrome, ie a newer version than what ubuntu thinks it is, if you get me?
[18:07] <igor_> i installed the ubuntu restricted extras pkg
[18:07] <trevor69420> igor_, in VLC what happens if you hit ctrl+d
[18:07] <trevor69420> >
[18:07] <trevor69420> with the disc mounted that is
[18:08] <sacarlson> AdvoWork: might find new version in ppa if your default repository doesn't have a new one already
[18:08] <venon> trevor69420  more complex ? just burn it (iso) on usb what problem ?
[18:08] <trevor69420> venon you dont just burn it on usb... you need to use an additional tool
[18:08] <igor_> shows disc selection
[18:09] <trevor69420> igor_, and does the disk show up in there?
[18:09] <igor_> i had to browse for it
[18:09] <kaitlyn_> I'm having trouble uninstalling programs from wine. every time i click the uninstall button it does nothing and trhe program is still there.
[18:09] <sacarlson> venon:  you also need a tool to burn the iso onto a cd so I'm not sure it's much easier
[18:09] <trevor69420> venon: if you followed all the instructions you need to use Tuxboot
[18:09] <trevor69420> you cant just burn the ISO to a flash drive and be done with it
[18:10] <venon> trevor69420 Windows Method D: LinuxLive USB Creator
[18:10] <venon> If you already have LinuxLive USB Creator installed on your computer then skip to the next step (2).
[18:10] <venon> Otherwise download and install LinuxLive USB Creator on your MS Windows computer.
[18:10] <venon> Download the GParted Live iso file.
[18:10] <venon> From Windows, install then run the LinuxLive USB Creator program and follow the instructions in the GUI to install GParted Live on your USB flash drive.
[18:10] <FloodBot1> venon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <trevor69420> u need the ZIP file number one for the USB flash drive NOT THE ISO
[18:10] <bazhang> trevor69420, thats not correct
[18:11] <trevor69420> venon... you are not using windows,... scroll down to where it says USB setup with GNU/Linux
[18:11] <bazhang> trevor69420, what is tuxboot
[18:11] <venon> :D shit ....
[18:11] <venon> thanks
[18:11] <trevor69420> bazhang the instructions on gparted specifically call for thee Gparted LIVE ZIP file and tuxboot to get it to work on linux
[18:11] <igor_> i didnt know it was this complicated to play a dvd
[18:11] <trevor69420> not the ISO
[18:11] <kaitlyn_> can anyone help me?
[18:11] <trevor69420> igor_, usually it's not
[18:11] <trevor69420> i usually just open it from inside VLC and it plays
[18:11] <trevor69420> maybe it's your DVD???
[18:11] <igor_> i dont know what im doing wrong
[18:12] <trevor69420> did you try another DVD
[18:12] <infernal> sacarlson: i probably did not execute it the way you intended http://pastebin.com/kvxMZGsD
[18:12] <igor_> just plaed it on the home dvd player and it worked fine
[18:12] <spartan7> my hard drive died on my ubuntu laptop. Anyone know where I can get cheap laptop drives?
[18:12] <trevor69420> spartan7 this isnt google shopping
[18:12] <kaitlyn_> FloodBot 2: can you help me?
[18:12] <trevor69420> floodbot2 is not a real person
[18:13] <trevor69420> lol
[18:13] <kaitlyn_> oh
[18:13] <trevor69420> it's a program
[18:13] <trevor69420> what is the issue?
[18:13] <kaitlyn_> i see
[18:13] <kaitlyn_>  I'm having trouble uninstalling programs from wine. every time i click the uninstall button it does nothing and trhe program is still there.
[18:13] <trevor69420> u havent asked a question
[18:13] <trevor69420> i dont know wine unfortunately maybe someone else here does
[18:13] <kaitlyn_> ok, thanks anyway
[18:13] <sacarlson> infernal: I don't see any mounts there that are within /var/www so if there are no sybolic links that go out side then I'm running out of ideas
[18:14] <venon> trevor69420 i cant install tuxboot
[18:14] <spartan7> trevor69420: LOL. thought I would ask. since it took me hours in here trying to roubleshoot my ubuntu issue finding out it was the drive. Thanks anyways.
[18:14] <igor_> tried an old dvd
[18:14] <venon> something with architekture
[18:14] <igor_> nothing
[18:14] <trevor69420> venon: why dont u use a CD instead of USB flash drive
[18:14] <infernal> sacarlson: i think the source code might be at foult here, as i stated giving the permissions fixed half of the errors of the same nature
[18:15] <superuser_ir> how to solve this error :       no TTL specified; using SOA MINTTL instead
[18:15] <kaitlyn_> Does anyone here know about wine?
[18:15] <trevor69420> i already asked that venon but u still insist on using flash drive... i dont know enough about the USB version of gparted as i do for the CD
[18:15] <trevor69420> the CD is ALOT easier to burn than using tuxboot and what not
[18:16] <sacarlson> infernal: ok good luck with it then
[18:16] <trevor69420> you would be done by now if you just burned it to a CD venon
[18:16] <infernal> sacarlson: thank you for your time :)
[18:16] <venon> okej so i burn in on CD. ..
[18:16] <venon> just download gparted ?
[18:17] <trevor69420> yes burn the ISO to a CD
[18:17] <venon> okej
[18:17] <sacarlson> infernal: oh I guess it could still be farther back in the tree of dir that still restrict writing to that dir
[18:17] <venon> boha ta anglictina mi ale nejde
[18:17] <trevor69420> yes download the gparted ISO and write click on it with a  blank CD in your burner and click "write to disc"
[18:17] <igor_> says vlc cannot read the file
[18:17] <LukeNukem> Hello
[18:17] <LukeNukem> i have a folder under /var/www
[18:17] <infernal> sacarlson: well what makes you think there are any symlinks in the 1st place, i know i didn't put any
[18:17] <sddhrthrt> bitlbee doesnt remember account settings. Why? anybody help!!!
[18:18] <intelligentfool> anyone here used tftp as a client in ubuntu?
[18:18] <LukeNukem> but it says i dont have permission to access the css file in there
[18:18] <LukeNukem> please help me out
[18:18] <trevor69420> venon, use this link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/0.12.0-2/
[18:18] <LukeNukem> i have done chown www-data /var/www
[18:18] <trevor69420> click on the one that ends in .iso venon not zip
[18:18] <sddhrthrt> LukeNukem: In terminal, use sudo and acces the file.
[18:18] <trevor69420> once it's downloaded write that to a CD
[18:18] <trevor69420> not USB
[18:18] <GLaDOSv2> hi all, apt-get upgrade over ssh was interrupted by a netwerk failure, now the system is broken, how do I fix it? for instance, proftpd isn't working... any idea?
[18:18] <Praxi> has anyone used Centrify?
[18:18] <LukeNukem> sddhrthrt, i need to use it for web development -_-
[18:18] <igor_> i like linux, but not being able to watch a dvd is kinda bad
[18:18] <venon> can i download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-testing/   ?
[18:18] <sddhrthrt> LukeNukem: Ok -.-
[18:19] <venon> trevor9420 OKEJ
[18:19] <sacarlson> infernal: because that's how I caused myself having the same problem in the past I just sybolic linked a dir from my home to /var/www and it failed to work,  so I just thought you might do the same
[18:19] <sddhrthrt> igor_: have you installed ubuntu essentials?
[18:19] <trevor69420> LukeNukem, did you set permissions on the subfolders and files of /var/www
[18:19] <Praxi> Anyone have any feedback on Centrify?  I'm looking for AD authentication, and AD access to windows network shares.
[18:19] <AdvoWork> sacarlson, how would I go about getting that then?
[18:19] <LukeNukem> i set it to 0755 now
[18:19] <aethelrick> igor_: i watch dvds all the time on linux? whats the problem
[18:19] <trevor69420> that looks like you only changed owner to www-data
[18:19] <LukeNukem> stupid shit
[18:19] <LukeNukem> trevor69420, what am i supposed to change to
[18:19] <trevor69420> u need to make sure your user account is in the www-data group
[18:19] <igor_> it wont plaY mine
[18:20] <cooljenga> PLEASE HELP ME!!
[18:20] <igor_> i've tried 2
[18:20] <venon> trevor69420 ok ... so thnaks an after must i set botting and  next is the same as installation windows  ?
[18:20] <compdoc> cooljenga, do you need money? shelter?
[18:20] <infernal> sacarlson: i'l try to put in on my friends server, to see if this issue can be replicated
[18:20] <h00k> LukeNukem: please mind the language, no cursing
[18:20] <trevor69420> well not really venon
[18:20] <cooljenga> lol no, I need help with wine
[18:20] <sacarlson> AdvoWork: I look back in irc logs and I don't know what "that" is
[18:21] <trevor69420> u arent installing anything it's a live cd venon
[18:21] <h00k> !ask | cooljenga
[18:21] <trevor69420> u run it off the cd
[18:21] <edinny> Last week or so my firefox on my Natty install started crashing on certain sites.  Is this only a problem on MY install?
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> igor_, Is yours a Blu-Ray, perhaps?
[18:21] <venon> undrstnd
[18:21] <venon> but must i set booting yes ?
[18:21] <cooljenga>  I'm having trouble uninstalling programs from wine. every time i click the uninstall button it does nothing and the program is still there.
[18:22] <igor_> no just plain dvd an old one and a new one both confirmed working in a stand alone dvd player
[18:22] <FrozenMind> igor_: are you using any type of codec and player? also what type of dvd are you trying to watch? is it dual layer, regular, blueray?
[18:22] <dr_willis> cooljenga: these are apps you installed via wine?
[18:22] <cooljenga> yes
[18:22] <EDinNY> Anyone else having a problem with Firefox?
[18:22] <igor_> i'm using vlc
[18:22] <Sidewinder1> igor_, That's strange; it sounds like a driver or more likely a codec issue.
[18:22] <EDinNY> VLC works for me for every codec
[18:23] <igor_> what codec?
[18:23] <AdvoWork> sacarlson, i need the newest version of google chrome, i've done an update in ubuntu but don't think its actually the newest one, and im wondering how to get it?
[18:23] <trevor69420> LukeNukem, are you looking for just your user account to have write access?
[18:23] <igor_> i am using the default codec
[18:23] <cooljenga> dr_willis: yes
[18:24] <Oer> igor_, you need the css script to play dvd's
[18:24] <igor_> i installed libdvdcss2
[18:24] <sacarlson> AdvoWork:
[18:24] <sacarlson> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[18:24] <aamir> any one have idea of mouse suspend after 2 sec on battery , google didnt helped me out.
[18:25] <cooljenga> dr_willis:  there intentions are questionable, I'm not sure why i installed them in the first place.
[18:25] <EDinNY> igor_ if you use VLC you don't need any other codecs.  It has it's own
[18:25] <Oer> igor_, then there are some dvd's who will not play, macromedia-drm
[18:25] <tkennedy> can someone tell me if the desktop is running when the login screen is running, or
[18:25] <tkennedy> does the desktop load after you get authenticated?
[18:25] <Sidewinder1> !codec > igor_  Perhaps one of those sites will help you solve your issues, I hope. :-)
[18:25] <FrozenMind> aamir: what type of mouse and is it corded, bluetooth, wireless, inferred, etc?
[18:26] <XanKriegor> does anybody have some experience with xbmc?
 A usb mouse with cable
[18:26] <aamir> FrozenMind: A usb mouse with cable
[18:27] <sacarlson> infernal: I just did an experiment with /home/sacarlson/test2/test/test.txt  with chmod 777 ./test;  and I can make it still unreachable if I have chmod 700 /home/sacarlson/test2 ; so you might want to look back to be sure www-data has privs all the way back to /var/www
[18:27] <FrozenMind> bah still not used to the IRC chat commands...
[18:28] <shaneo> hey guys im trying to add a symbolic link some files on a drive to a folder on the same drive what command can i use to transfer the files from one folder to specified folder
[18:28] <shaneo> ln -sT Game.of.Thrones.S01.DVDRip.XviD-REWARD/*\.avi Game\ of\ Thrones/
[18:28] <superuser_ir> how to specify TTL in debian server ?
[18:28] <bazhang> superuser_ir, debian?
[18:28] <zykotick9> superuser_ir: 1) you shouldn't cross post 2) debian isn't supported in #ubuntu
[18:29] <sacarlson> infernal:  oh and that's assuming that www-data is always the only other user other than root that tries to write to it
[18:29] <trevor69420> superuser_ir time to live?
[18:29] <dagerik> I successfully ised the program "import pic.png" to take screenshots of specified region. After installing linux mint, the tool sometimes grab the window behind the one I want to grab screenshot from. How can I solve this?
[18:29] <jpic> hi all, any idea how to get mysqldump command ? here it says it comes from : mysql-cluster-client-5.1_7.0.9-1ubuntu7_i386 (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/mysqldump.1.html) but when i install this package it removes mysql-server :(
[18:29] <jpic> is it possible to have both mysql server and mysqldump command ? how so ?
[18:29] <superuser_ir>  trevor69420: how to set it
[18:29] <cooljenga> ya'all are not helpful. good bye
[18:30] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, well this is ubuntu not debian
[18:30] <trevor69420> different OS
[18:30] <oCean> jpic: sure, mysql-client package holds /usr/bin/mysqldump
[18:30] <jpic> thanks oCean
[18:31] <mce> #kibo
[18:31] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, if you want help in ubuntu we can do that, but i cant guarentee it'll be the same for debian
[18:31] <savid> So, i installed windows7 onto a different partition, and it decided to use my ubuntu  / partition as its boot partition.  So it reformatted it in NTFS without any warning.  Thanks a lot Microsoft.
[18:31] <superuser_ir> trevor69420 : can u say it
[18:31] <trevor69420> can i say waht superuser_ir ?
[18:32] <superuser_ir> trevor69420:we can do that ,that?
[18:32] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, you are not making sense DO WHAT?
[18:33] <vinzz_> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version. You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  sun-java6-jdk : Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.26-1~lffl~oneiric~ppa) but it is not going to be installed  sun-java6-plugin : Depends
[18:33] <vinzz_> how can we recover from this error/
[18:34] <wlightning> I recently put on headphones, and everything I hear is like it's missing the center channel
[18:34] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, it helps if you use complete sentences....  are you looking for help with Debian or Ubuntu?
[18:34] <vinzz_> can anyone help me with my error
[18:34] <superuser_ir> trevor69420: for debian
[18:34] <wlightning> even though there is no center channel.. (like all the talking is missing)
[18:34] <sacarlson> vinzz_: remove the ppa repository and try again?
[18:34] <trevor69420> superuser_ir this is ubuntu support though not debian
[18:34] <bazhang> superuser_ir, #debian NOT here
[18:34] <llutz> superuser_ir: so ask in #debian
[18:35] <trevor69420> sheesh
[18:35] <igor_> ok. now it will play some old movie but not a new one
[18:35] <superuser_ir> trevor69420:i know but config is same with ubuntu
[18:36] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, that may not be true... but in ubuntu the file you need to edit is /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl
[18:36] <zykotick9> vinzz_: see the link from "/msg ubottu java" sun-java must be downloaded from Oracle these days
[18:36] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, they are different Operating Systems so the file may be different in debian
[18:37] <venon> so no extract gparted y ? :) just burn iso on CD  ?
[18:37] <trevor69420> venon burn the ISO to CD
[18:37] <venon> OK :D
[18:37] <trevor69420> make sure you did not get the ZIP file
[18:37] <igor_> why cant i play a new dvd
[18:37] <blackbug> hello, i am trying to compile an apps code, but getting the following error.."configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.31.0
                   gtk+-3.0 >= 3.0.0
                   libcanberra-gtk3) were not met:
 No package 'gtk+-3.0' found
 No package 'libcanberra-gtk3' found
 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[18:37] <FloodBot1> blackbug: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <trevor69420> venon do you know how to burn a bootable ISO?
[18:37] <venon> normal ?
[18:37] <trevor69420> dont just drag the ISO the CD that will not work
[18:38] <trevor69420> i dunno what you are doing venon....   so i cant answer that... lol
[18:38] <zykotick9> igor_: have you installed commercial dvd support?  have you seen "/msg ubottu dvd"?
[18:38] <venon> trevor69420 dont just drag ?
[18:38] <venon> and what ?
[18:38] <venon> what have i do
[18:38] <venon> when dont just drag
[18:39] <venon> iso
[18:39] <trevor69420> venon check my private message
[18:39] <sacarlson> blackbug: did you install the -dev packages for those libs it says are missing?
[18:39] <trevor69420> i just messagted you
[18:39] <igor_> i have seen the message
[18:40] <superuser_ir> i specified ttl (http://pastebin.com/T0XM6tej) ,why give me this error (no TTL specified; using SOA MINTTL instead) ?
[18:40] <igor_> i have played "outsiders" and "predator" fine.  But "green lantern" dont play
[18:41] <superuser_ir> trevor69420 :i specified ttl (http://pastebin.com/T0XM6tej) ,why give me this error (no TTL specified; using SOA MINTTL instead) ?
[18:41] <llutz> superuser_ir: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/apa/ttl.html
[18:41] <st22> Hallo zusammen
[18:41] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get the init script in the initrd to print all messages to tty1, rather than tty7?
[18:41] <igor_> ok. now it works.  dont know how that happened.
[18:41] <_Marcus> Since #vbox is unhelpful, I'll ask here. How do I use my built-in microphone on my laptop inside my Ubuntu guest OS through Virtual Box?
[18:41] <blackbug> sacarlson: i didnt explicitly installed gtk or glib. after this error i did tried to install dev packages, but i couldnt see any in the apt-get repository.
[18:42] <sacarlson> igor_: there is a package called ubuntu-restricted-extras  did you try install that with synaptic or apt-get install ?
[18:42] <trevor69420> superuser_ir, beats me sounds like a debian problem
[18:42] <trevor69420> cant help u
[18:42] <st22> I have some problems getting a ATI Radeon 9200 work with Ubuntu 11.10, can anybody help?
[18:43] <igor_> i tried both ways to install. somehow it just started working
[18:43] <mandar> Hi.. I am not able to play video files with extension .mp4. In VLC player, movie player. its lagging. does it need a codec?
[18:44] <superuser_ir>  trevor69420: be een kire asalim ,(persian language
[18:44] <trevor69420> i speak english superuser_ir
[18:44] <trevor69420> this is an english speaking channel superuser_ir
[18:45] <sacarlson> blackbug: I see a package called libcanberra-gtk-dev  did you install that?
[18:45] <zykotick9> mandar: if it plays, but is choppy/laggy it's "probably" not a codec issue, but a performance (cpu/gpu) issue.
[18:45] <trevor69420> mandar: sounds more like hardware not being up to par
[18:45] <trevor69420> vlc i think does better cpu wise
[18:45] <trevor69420> err what zykotick9 said
[18:46] <mandar> Other files like .avi is playing perfectly.
[18:46] <Praxi> can someone say my name so I can test my highlighting? :)
[18:46] <zykotick9> Praxi: no ;)
[18:46] <blackbug> sacarlson: yes, i have installed it, but its not helping..
[18:47] <cooljenga> Praxi:
[18:47] <Praxi> doh, I'll miss it if I'm on the channel, thanks zykotick9
[18:47] <cooljenga> ha! I jst wanted to tell you, I figured it out myself. So there.
[18:47] <sacarlson> blackbug: are you running like 10.04 ?  I don't think we have gtk3 at ubuntu 10.04
[18:48] <blackbug> sacarlson: I am runnin 12.04
[18:48] <sacarlson> blackbug: then I'm not sure what version 12.04 runs,  maybe gtk4?
[18:49] <oCean> blackbug: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[18:49] <zykotick9> mandar: avi/mp4 are technically containers, they can both have many different codecs inside.  mp4 is often going to be used for newer HD-type codecs, with much higher resolutions then old avi files (but certainly not necessarily, depends on the person encoding video)
[18:50] <st22> Is there anybody who has knowledge about getting radeon9200 work?
[18:50] <trism> blackbug: gtk3 is libgtk-3-dev and glib is libglib2.0-dev
[18:50] <sacarlson> blackbug: and if after you installed at least one of the missing libs it fails to find it then it must have a bad PKG_CONFIG_PATH setting
[18:50] <jbwiv__> can someone point me to instructions for getting three monitors working under 12.04? I have two nvidia cards and three monitors. Not sure if I need to configure xinerama...if so, I did try one of my old xinerama configs and while I can get three monitors showing in Ubuntu 2D, they're all mirrors. anyway, I need to understand the appopriate method of configuration here. thank you very much in advance...
[18:51] <zykotick9> jbwiv__: reask in #ubuntu+1
[18:51] <blackbug> trism: i used the package names you provided, apt-get doesnt recognise it
[18:51] <jbwiv__> zykotick9: I did. no love there...it's like a ghost town
[18:51] <oCean> blackbug: please don't continue here, as you're using 12.04
[18:51] <zykotick9> jbwiv__: for an issue like your, i'm not surprised
[18:52] <trism> blackbug: we can take it over to #ubuntu+1 but they are both there
[18:52] <jbwiv__> zykotick9: running on three monitors is unusual?
[18:52] <sacarlson> jbwiv__: seems xinerama has moved to changed names,  I have seen very little but some documents on it
[18:53] <zykotick9> jbwiv__: i just don't see it getting high priority in the #ubuntu+1 channel.  seriously, why are you running the beta?  you don't get support in this channel - which is a big downside IMO
[18:53] <jbwiv__> sacarlson: changed names?
[18:53] <oCean> sacarlson: when responding to 12.04 issues, please point out that the appropriate channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[18:53] <jbwiv__> zykotick9: because 11.10 doesn't support three monitors at all. Unity 5.2 (included in 12.04) is supposed to bring that support
[18:54] <_Marcus> How do I use my built-in microphone on Ubuntu over virtual box?
[18:55] <afd> any way to mount a HDD from an imac once in a caddy?
[18:55] <igor_> is there a way to rip a dvd disc without transcoding it too?
[18:55] <afd> doesn't automount
[18:55] <trevor69420> afd prob cuz of the format
[18:55] <EDinNY> igor_: you could make an image
[18:55] <igor_> how?
[18:55] <trevor69420> afd what does is the filesystem?
[18:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:56] <EDinNY> cat /dev/dvd > filname.iso could work
[18:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:56] <afd> doesn't appear in fdisk. not sure of the filesystem
[18:56] <afd> was running osx (10.4?)
[18:57] <zykotick9> EDinNY: you can't make an ISO out of a DVD!  disk image yes, but technically an ISO will create a filesystem for something that's to suppose to have one.  igor_
[18:57] <trevor69420> afd prob in mac os journaled then...
[18:57] <trevor69420> not sure if ubuntu can read that
[18:57] <zykotick9> EDinNY: not suppose to have one
[18:57] <EDinNY> zykotick9: but you could make an iso, then burn it to dupe the dvd
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> igor_: Theoretically if you dd if=/dev/dvd of=/<path to>/<file>.iso you'll get a usable iso image that you can mount or burn back to a DVD.
[18:57] <afd> is there something I can install through apt-get to make it readble?
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> igor_: There might be copy protection on the disk that would interfere with that, but I haven't encountered any so far.
[18:58] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: that would be an image for sure, but DVDs cannot be "ISO"s technically
[18:58] <DexterF> hi
[18:58] <satyanash> jhutchins_wk, yes, but I read that the image formed using dd that way will not match the md5 checksums normally provided..
[18:59] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: it would break aspects of the dvd for sure
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> satyanash: Have you tried it?
[18:59] <trevor69420> afd: http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[18:59] <bazhang> igor_, or use ogmrip
[18:59] <afd> ;)
[18:59] <DexterF> is there a rar program that handles .rev files?
[18:59] <satyanash> jhutchins_wk, no, But I hae read it somewhere.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: I've duplicated at least one commercial video that way.
[18:59] <sun_devil> My Ubuntu keep telling me only 258 mb of disk space left, looks like my root dir is filling up but my /home and /usr does not have much in them
[18:59] <trevor69420> igor_ it's possible there is a DRM on the dvd which might be why it's not working correctly
[18:59] <DexterF> sun_devil: check /var if that is not on a seperate partition. if the apt dir is filing up, try apt-cache clean
[19:00] <trevor69420> if you just rip it it may keep the DRM which may not fix the issue
[19:00] <afd> :( can't boot the mac which is why it's in an external caddy... so guessing I can't turn off journaling
[19:00] <trevor69420> afd did u read the link i sent you?
[19:00] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: it's a WFM type situation, creating a bin/cue type image would retain all the DVDs correct formatting (your dd to "iso" _might_ as well, but that image is not an ISO)
[19:00] <afd> yep
[19:00] <lukescharf> Does anyone know if Precise includes Gnome 3.3, or is it still Gnome 3.2?
[19:00] <oCean> lukescharf: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[19:00] <igor_> i didnt say it wasnt working
[19:00] <afd> installing hfsprogs to try reading it that way
[19:00] <lukescharf> Fair enough.  Was thinking about running the beta.
[19:00] <trevor69420> afd yep do that
[19:00] <igor_> i just wanted to rip dvd without transcoding
[19:01] <whatthefunk> Whats the easiest way to reconnect an ssh session after timing out? My purpose is to tail the logs in my terminal after ssh'ing. Thanks.
[19:01] <bazhang> igor_, ogmrip
[19:01] <igor_> installing now. thanks
[19:01] <trevor69420> igor_ OGmrip will not transcode the video
[19:01] <igor_> good
[19:01] <werxxx> igor_: hi im russian
[19:02] <sun_devil> not sure how my partitions are set up, but root is at 100 percent while the others do not have much, maybe move Pictures to a external drive?
[19:02] <trevor69420> sun_devil, or resize your partitions
[19:02] <igor_> i'm not. just liked the name
[19:02] <afd> still can't see it in fdisk -l...
[19:02] <recon_lap> sun_devil: have a look at disk manager to see whats on what drive
[19:02] <DexterF> sun_devil: and try    sudo find ./ -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec du -sh {} \; | grep ^[^[:space:]]*[MGT]    starting from / and then dive into the big ones and repeat the command in the suspicious ones
[19:02] <werxxx> igor_: haha
[19:03] <trevor69420> afd is it possible the drive is dead?
[19:03] <sun_devil> recon_lap, what the command for disk manager?
[19:03] <afd> it's possible but I think if there is a problem it's the machine's RAM
[19:03] <XubuntuOne> hello
[19:03] <trevor69420> why would it be the RAM afd?
[19:03] <XubuntuOne> may i ask something
[19:04] <trevor69420> !ask | XubuntuOne
[19:04] <afd> it wasn't booting and was giving errors that I think referred to memory
[19:04] <XubuntuOne> why does ubuntu need new hardware to run properly nowadays?
[19:04] <XubuntuOne> i think this is wrong...
[19:04] <trevor69420> XubuntuOne, what do you mean?
[19:04] <sun_devil> The machine has 2 gigs of ram, older viao
[19:04] <trevor69420> i run my ubuntu on a 10 year old computer just fine
[19:04] <bazhang> XubuntuOne, it does not. and thats not really a support question
[19:04] <XubuntuOne> i mean that i cant run ubuntu good anymore on older hardware
[19:05] <XubuntuOne> bazhang, ??
[19:05] <JJasonClark> is there a way to see if upstart is setup?
[19:05] <recon_lap> sun_devil: palimpsest
[19:05] <bazhang> XubuntuOne, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:05] <XubuntuOne> im a schoolteacher in brazil we have low spec machines
[19:05] <abass> lut
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | XubuntuOne
[19:05] <trevor69420> well XubuntuOne depends on what you are trying to run... it's not ubuntu it's the packages you run they all have system requirements just like every program
[19:05] <XubuntuOne> i cant run the new ubuntu for my children
[19:05] <trevor69420> XubuntuOne, maybe knowing what you are trying to run it on may be helpful
[19:06] <sacarlson> sun_devil: ya just copy your directories in /home/*  onto one of the free space partitions and modify /etc/fstab to point there
[19:06] <trevor69420> older hardware is a matter of opinion
[19:06] <XubuntuOne> 1Ghz 256 mb ram machines
[19:06] <zykotick9> !requirements
[19:06] <zykotick9> XubuntuOne: 1GB RAM is recommened minimum these days
[19:06] <CFHowlett> XubuntuOne   you don't need the newest version.  10.04 is supported for another full year...
[19:06] <XubuntuOne> ok i see
[19:06] <trevor69420> XubuntuOne, i'd try Lubuntu
[19:07] <XubuntuOne> ok
[19:07] <sacarlson> sun_devil: or I guess a symbolic link to the free space partition would be another solution to move your /home/* with
[19:09] <sun_devil> sacarlson,  so mv /~ /home/.    Forgot how to do a symbolic link
[19:10] <Viking667> What tool administers whether a user automatically logs in? (Yes, I'm aware of the implications)
[19:10] <sddhrthrt> blist
[19:10] <Viking667> I tried gnome-control-center and user-admin, neither of what I thought.
[19:10] <Viking667> I'll try that.
[19:10] <sacarlson> sun_devil: I would cp /home /freespacepartition;  then ln -s /freespacepartition /home  or something like that
[19:10] <zykotick9> Viking667: whatever DM you are using - look into lightdm autologin (or gdm for older versions)
[19:10] <werxxx> Viking667: why 667
[19:11] <trevor69420> sun_devil, out of curiosity... why do you need a symbolic link?
[19:11] <dr_willis> !switchhome
[19:11] <dr_willis> !movehome
[19:11] <Viking667> werxxx: one step beyond pure evil... muahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAH
[19:11] <Viking667> zykotick9: thanks. I figured as much
[19:11] <werxxx> ha
[19:12] <sun_devil> I think my /home is has space.  I think its the root that filling up
[19:12] <sacarlson> trevor69420: he's out of disk space on his root / partition; so sybolic link is one method to use to point to new space
[19:12] <dr_willis> sun_devil,  df -h will tell you
[19:12] <trevor69420> i see...
[19:12] <trevor69420> sacarlson, forgive me but why not just resize his root partition with gparted
[19:13] <AdhamSabry> Hello
[19:13] <AdhamSabry> All
[19:13] <igor_> how dod i play a dvd iso file?
[19:13] <dr_willis> igor_,  vlc can do that
[19:13] <sacarlson> trevor69420: because he already has other partitions that exist with free space
[19:13] <trevor69420> i see
[19:13] <igor_> what does?
[19:13] <AdhamSabry> I need the command to fix the grub loader, because it's not asking me anymore about which OS I wanna choose
[19:13] <dr_willis> igor_,  'vlc'
[19:13] <sacarlson> trevor69420: resizeing partitions is risky and slow
[19:13] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[19:13] <trevor69420> VLC can do that igor_
[19:13] <DexterF> sun_devil: do you have one big partition with everythign in it or seperate a home partition?
[19:13] <riot_> excuse me, how do I set the Italian language on mozilla? I installed yesterday xubunto
[19:13] <AdhamSabry> can anyone please give me the command to fix this issue from the ubuntu live cd?
[19:13] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | AdhamSabry
[19:14] <CFHowlett> !grub2|AdhamSabry
[19:14] <trevor69420> but igor_ if you just made an ISO of that same disk that wouldnt play to begin with in VLC it prob wont now
[19:14] <sun_devil> dr_willis,   /dev/sda6 is at 96%     mounted on /
[19:14] <trevor69420> igor_, it's possible there are DRM protections on the DVD
[19:14] <trevor69420> which ripping isnt gonna fix
[19:14] <riot_> ?
[19:15] <zykotick9> sun_devil: if your /var is not a separate partition you might want to check how much space your apt cache is using "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" it can be cleared out usually, "sudo apt-get clean" would probably do it.
[19:15] <sun_devil> DexterF, I have separate partitions
[19:15] <dr_willis> sun_devil,  and 5% is normally reserved.. how big is sda6?
[19:15] <igor_> it does play by the disac now
[19:15] <AdhamSabry> I'm sorry but I have to go very soon, and I need that quick because I have a meeting
[19:15] <AdhamSabry> I just need the command to do it before the meeting start
[19:15] <stygzy> whats up guys
[19:16] <igor_> the disc works fine now
[19:16] <DexterF> sun_devil: see zykotick9s remark couple lines back and mine a few pages up. helps tracking the disk hogs
[19:16] <Oer> AdhamSabry, jus thold shift @ boot to enter the grub menu
[19:16] <igor_> i just want to know how to play an iso now
[19:16] <AdhamSabry> it doesn't work, It'll just go to Windows
[19:16] <bazhang> igor_, with vlc
[19:16] <AdhamSabry> and I need to get into the Ubuntu installed...
[19:16] <trevor69420> AdhamSabry, what command are you looking for
[19:16] <stygzy> any of you familiar with xchat on linux?
[19:17] <trevor69420> stygzy, it's about the same as other OSes
[19:17] <ThinkT510> !anyone | stygzy
[19:17] <sacarlson> AdhamSabry: I think it's hold the shift key at boot to bring up grub
[19:17] <sun_devil> zykotick9, says 176M in archives
[19:17] <werxxx> eeehhhhhhhh
[19:17] <bazhang> stygzy, what is the question
[19:17] <AdhamSabry> the command to fix the grub loader and restore it back, because it doesn't show it up anymore...
[19:17] <MadEchidna>  /join #ubuntu+1
[19:17] <CFHowlett> AdhamSabry   reschedule your meeting
[19:17] <MadEchidna> woops :P
[19:17] <zykotick9> sun_devil: that's not very much :(
[19:17] <DexterF> igor_: install vlc, at command line: vlc disc.iso <- that's it.
[19:17] <stygzy> i need to set up the sounds
[19:17] <CFHowlett> AdhamSabry   the command should have worked.
[19:17] <DexterF> igor_: smplayer plays iso, too.
[19:17] <trevor69420> AdhamSabry, sounds like your time out is set to 0
[19:18] <trevor69420> so it doesnt show GRUB
[19:18] <stygzy> my normal channel is having issues right now so i thought i would see what the world of irc  had for me
[19:18] <Oer> AdhamSabry, holding shift @ boot to enter the grub menu does not work?
[19:18] <stygzy> in xchat
[19:18] <CFHowlett> AdhamSabry   the fact that it didn't means more fixes need to be applied which can't be done at a finger snap.  sorry.
[19:18] <sun_devil> zykotick9, so its done,  has a dual boot with xp which is I think its own partition
[19:18] <stygzy> is there a download for the sound files?
[19:18] <brianp1992> join debug#
[19:18] <stygzy> or is it in the repo
[19:18] <brianp1992> join/ debug#
[19:18] <AdhamSabry> nope
[19:18] <igor_> i'm getting stuttering and no picture
[19:18] <AdhamSabry> grub isn't there
[19:18] <brianp1992> join\ debug#
[19:18] <werxxx> i like icecream
[19:18] <oCean> brianp1992: /join #channel
[19:19] <donsd> stygzy, Are you using Ubuntu?
[19:19] <stygzy> yeah
[19:19] <AdhamSabry> tried shift
[19:19] <sacarlson> AdhamSabry: if grub mbr needs to be reinstalled then maybe look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:19] <bazhang> werxxx, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[19:19] <trevor69420> AdhamSabry, are you able to boot into Ubuntu?
[19:19] <stygzy> 11.10 i think
[19:19] <AdhamSabry> anyone
[19:19] <donsd> stygzy, Don't use xchat-gnome or whatever it's called.
[19:19] <trevor69420> AdhamSabry, i am trying to help u r not answering me
[19:19] <AdhamSabry> nope
[19:19] <donsd> I had trouble with that one.
[19:19] <AdhamSabry> it just goes to windows
[19:20] <stygzy> i think i just installed xchat off of synaptic
[19:20] <AdhamSabry> trevor69428, I'm opening ubuntu
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !u | trevor69420
[19:20] <AdhamSabry> live cd
[19:20] <werxxx> bazhang: haha
[19:20] <CFHowlett> AdhamSabry   boot the live cd.  Access your files and do your meeting.  Fix grub after your meeting.
[19:20] <bazhang> werxxx, stop the chit chat here
[19:20] <stygzy> its not xchat-gnome
[19:20] <donsd> stygzy, What is your question?
[19:20] <drklunk> hey Im having some graphics card trouble, anyone wanna take a few minutes to maybe help me?
[19:20] <trevor69420> wtf,,,, why cant i say u
[19:20] <AdhamSabry> no, it'll require me to reinstall the applications
[19:20] <stygzy> theres no sound files for sound effects
[19:21] <igor_> terminal says attempting to retriev all css keys
[19:21] <trevor69420> AdhamSabry, check your private message
[19:21] <dr_willis> AdhamSabry,  that fixgrub guide showd how to install the fix-boot program  which takes all of perhaps 5 min
[19:21] <donsd> stygzy, Did you look at Settings?
[19:21] <stygzy> i dont think i have any thing in my /home/username/.xchat2/sounds
[19:21] <stygzy> yeah
[19:22] <_enigma_> hello?
[19:22] <dr_willis> jello!
[19:22] <sun_devil> my dev and var/run are at 1%
[19:22] <werxxx> my cat is dead
[19:22] <riot__> hello
[19:23] <stygzy> theres no sound folder in /.xchat2/
[19:23] <CFHowlett> !ot|werxxx
[19:23] <Star_Light> how can I create my room here?
[19:23] <donsd> stygzy, Yeah, I don't either.
[19:23] <codepython777> how do i find out which package has "gimptool"?
[19:23] <igor_> its not playing
[19:23] <dr_willis> !find gimptool
[19:23] <drklunk> i need help resolving "Could not open DriverDB cache /var/cache/jockey/driverdb-OpenPrintingDriverDB.cache: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/cache/jockey/driverdb-OpenPrintingDriverDB.cache'"
[19:23] <riot__> excuse me, how do I set the Italian language on mozilla? I installed yesterday xubunto
[19:23] <stygzy> ii didnt know if i had messed something up screwing with my system or not
[19:23] <Star_Light> Is there any command that you can recomend to me?
[19:23] <codepython777> got it
[19:24] <dr_willis> Star_Light,  /join #makeupanameforyourroom
[19:24] <stygzy> and it looks like /.xchat2/sound.conf is empty
[19:24] <oCean> Star_Light: for use/support with the freenode network, /join #freenode channel.
[19:24] <donsd> stygzy, Have you tried the #xchat channel?
[19:24] <stygzy> no config is set up fo it
[19:24] <stygzy> no
[19:24] <stygzy> i will
[19:24] <Star_Light> oCean,  and will be registered?
[19:24] <stygzy> i usualy on go in one irc
[19:24] <Star_Light> I want to register one
[19:24] <_enigma_> Ubuntu 11.10 - for some reason a number of programs seem to want to open pdf through wine despite evince being default
[19:24] <oCean> Star_Light: sure, ask for help in #freenode, not here
[19:24] <dr_willis> Star_Light,  check the freenode homepage for how to make a perm channel
[19:25] <Star_Light> ok
[19:25] <riot__> ?
[19:25] <Star_Light> thank you.
[19:25] <riot__> :(
[19:25] <drklunk> riot_, go to mozilla and hit edit>preferences>content>languages>select a language to add
[19:25] <_enigma_> can't seem to find the cause...
[19:25] <CFHowlett> drklunk   good find.  I looked but didn't see taht.
[19:25] <drklunk> riot_, i believe thatll solve your language issue in Mozilla
[19:26] <igor_> ia m trying to play an iso with vlc and i'm not getting anywhere
[19:26] <drklunk> CFHowlett, well thank ya
[19:26] <riot__> drklunk already done so, it does not work
[19:26] <dr_willis> igor_,  normally i can just select the iso from the file->open item, or drag/drop the iso onto vlc and it plays fine for me
[19:26] <drklunk> back to square one xD
[19:26] <itaylor57> riot__, how did you install mozilla, if not from the repo then that could be your problem
[19:26] <recon_lap>  igor_: iso are normally burned to a disk? never tried to view one directly
[19:27] <cjae> so avidemux qt still cannot handle .mkv?
[19:27] <dr_willis> recon_lap,  you can play iso files with many media players.
[19:28] <igor_> when i do that it shows no video and the sound is stuttering
[19:28] <dr_willis> igor_,  how did you make the iso?
[19:28] <igor_> in the main menu
[19:28] <igor_> in terminal
[19:28] <riot__> itaylor57 mozilla was already installed, do not understand where the problem can be
[19:28] <CFHowlett> igor_   did you install either the ubuntu-restricted-extras or medibuntu for the codecs?
[19:29] <drklunk> riot_, im searching for a plug in, thinkin that might help
[19:29] <igor_> yes i did
[19:29] <riot__> : )
[19:29] <velko> riot__, install the package firefox-l10n-it (i hope this is the right name) and restart firefox
[19:29] <CFHowlett> igor_   try a different player e.g. totem or mplayer from the command line
[19:30] <riot__> velko I try
[19:31] <dr_willis>  vlc whatever.iso may show some error messages also
[19:31] <DexterF> gotta gotta gotta go
[19:31] <sacarlson> igor_: did you install this package also libdvdcss2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  also might need to lookup mounting iso files with -o loop
[19:32] <igor_> i cvan play the dvd disc fine
[19:32] <randomenduser> hi, so I managed to get solarized working in xterm with the instructions here: https://github.com/altercation/solarized.  however I still get the default colors in gnome-terminal.  any idea how I can fix this?
[19:34] <blackbug> i want to debug a core file, but i cannot see it inspite of the fact that application crashes with segmentation fault(core dumped) msg. i already checked my ulimit, and its set to unlimited. what could be a reason for this?
[19:34] <igor_> in totem in terminal it does nothing
[19:34] <trishxo> anyone aware of an app that you can send and receive sms messages?
[19:35] <sacarlson> igor_: http://blog.sudobits.com/2010/06/27/how-to-mount-cd-dvd-iso-image-in-ubuntu-10-04/  is one of many methods to mount iso files to system directories
[19:35] <ThinkT510> !find sms | trishxo
[19:35] <kostkon> trishxo, you can use spotify to send
[19:35] <dr_willis> a cell phone emulator? :)
[19:35] <dr_willis> wonder if googles chat/phone thing can do that.
[19:36] <kostkon> trishxo, sorry, i meant Skype!
[19:36] <trishxo> dr_willis: nah, you need credits. :\
[19:36] <sacarlson> trishxo: skype can send sms not sure about recieve them
[19:36] <trishxo> sacarlson: alright.
[19:36] <dr_willis> with todays smart phones. theres most likely some free sms service. :) i use 'gosms'
[19:37] <dr_willis> not sure if they got a pc/web client.
[19:37] <drklunk> its easy to find a browser based sms service using google
[19:37] <riot__> velko thanks for the help, indeed, thanks to everyone for the help
[19:38] <drklunk> got it goin riot?
[19:38] <zykotick9> sacarlson: just sayin', mounting dvd makes no sense - they're not suppose to be mounted, and aren't ISO filesystems.  they're played, without mounting.
[19:38] <trishxo> drklunk: i tried that, didn't find much but ones that you cannot receive messages.
[19:38] <riot__> yes
[19:39] <riot__> drklunk
[19:39] <drklunk> trishxo, ill give it a go. i remember using one that allowed me to send and receive so i know theyre out there
[19:39] <drklunk> riot, cool beans man
[19:40] <trishxo> drklunk: yeah, they're deff out there. i know you can just simply send a sms, get them to reply to your email, then you reply from there.
[19:40] <sacarlson> zykotick9: well I guess igor_: lied that he has a dvd iso image then,  as I've mounted iso disks before I assumed it would be the same
[19:40] <gaussblurinc> hello! are there any possible ways to install remember the milk or other 'remember' notes on lxde?
[19:40] <riot__> drklunk I am new to linux
[19:40] <igor_> why are you calling me a liar!!
[19:41] <velko_> riot__,  is firefox in italian if you start it from the command line like that?: LC_ALL=it_IT.UTF-8 firefox
[19:41] <igor_> i used gmount and it worked
[19:41] <drklunk> trishxo, yeah, theres always that option which is basically what the one I had used is except the recipient replied to the temp address the website provided
[19:41] <riot__> velko ty
[19:42] <velko_> gaussblurinc, i don't know exactly what these are but you can take a look at gtg
[19:42] <stygzy> #xchat
[19:42] <drklunk> riot__ , its all good, we're all always learning, still consider myself new to the scene
[19:42] <trishxo> drklunk: yeah, theres gotta be some app like that, rather than in a browser.
[19:42] <thiagoalmeidasa> hi, i need change default umask for specific directory, some sugestion?
[19:43] <theadmin> thiagoalmeidasa: Sadly not possible (trust me, I spent about 2 hours googling for this >.>)
[19:43] <sacarlson> igor_: well then your not a lier and zykotick9 was incorrect
[19:43] <trishxo> drklunk: cuz i know on ipods/ipads you can download apps that you can send and receive sms messages with an internet connection.
[19:43] <riot__> I return to my exploration. goodbye
[19:43] <drklunk> trishxo, oh, youre looking for an ap? to use on your phone?
[19:43] <velko_> thiagoalmeidasa, you cannot do that. it's either all or nothing game with the default umasc
[19:43] <riot__> drklunk   : )
[19:43] <trishxo> drklunk: no, no.. like a linux app/program lol.
[19:43] <Praxi> being new to linux, I found out if I hit CTRL ALT T it opens a terminal, is there anyway that I could modify that?  so like if I have a directory open in the file browser thing, it opens a terminal HERE?
[19:43] <itaylor57> thiagoalmeidasa, umask is set by user creating file in a directory, it is not set by the dir itself
[19:43] <trevor69420> wait why would changing the default umask be inpossibl theadmin
[19:44] <drklunk> riot__, good luck!
[19:44] <trevor69420> i think i've done it once in ubuntu server a while back
[19:44] <theadmin> trevor69420: It's possible for the shell, sure, not for a specific directory though
[19:44] <drklunk> trishxo, oh ok haha, i was like "wrong place" xD
[19:44] <trevor69420> oh
[19:44] <trevor69420> i see
[19:44] <itaylor57> thiagoalmeidasa, you can set a default umask for all users by putting itinto the default .bashrc
[19:44] <recon_lap> Praxi : you should try use the tab in terminal for auto complete :)
[19:45] <trevor69420> itaylor57, yea but not for just  adirectory
[19:45] <thiagoalmeidasa> thanks
[19:45] <trevor69420> that applies to the whole shell like theadmin said
[19:45] <bullium> Praxi, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:45] <igor_> thanks for the help. sacarlson
[19:45] <igor_> it's working now
[19:45] <sacarlson> igor_: cool
[19:46] <velko_> !u > velko_
[19:46] <llutz> thiagoalmeidasa: you may want to read about ACLs (man getfacl, man setfacl) to do things similar to "dirwise-umask"
[19:47] <Johannes_> hey
[19:47] <Johannes_> can i here ask my question?
[19:47] <ThinkT510> !ask
[19:47] <Johannes_> okey, okey
[19:47] <Johannes_> Hello, I don't want to buy me an crossover cabel, to share my connection (mobile internet connection stick) over lan, so how it is possible over the normal LAN cabel, my problem is, when I tried it over the network manager -> ip4.. settings- > share the connection is on, off, on, off and the xbox don't get the internet connection ..
[19:47] <Praxi> bullium, 11.10 x64
[19:48] <smplman> Johannes_: that same rule about asking applies everywhere on the internet
[19:48] <sacarlson> trishxo: you might find the api for an android phone that you could ssh into to send and recieve sms
[19:48] <Johannes_> I asked my question
[19:49] <bullium> Praxi, open search at the upper left of the screen then type "keyboard" without the quotes and you'll see the word Keybaord with a picture of a KB click that...then go to The shortcuts tab...then modify away
[19:49] <trishxo> sacarlson: what exactly do you mean? lol
[19:49] <blitz> Johannes_, you need to set the settings in the xbox to manual
[19:49] <Johannes_> I?
[19:50] <blitz> give it a manual IP
[19:50] <Johannes_> yes, that i done
[19:50] <Johannes_> but it don't work
[19:50] <drklunk> Johannes, how man IPs can your stick support? some are limited to one so as long as your pc was on the xbox can not get on
[19:50] <cantor> senior dawson?
[19:50] <Praxi> will that let me modify the ctrl alt t to change the opened terminals directory bullium?  Checking now
[19:50] <sillysally> Senior Dawson is here
[19:50] <cantor> sillysally,
[19:50] <cantor> lol
[19:50] <bullium> Praxi, yes it should
[19:50]  * cantor says o/ to sillysally 
[19:50] <Johannes_> ähm.. I don't know what you mean, windows could easy share the connection, and it works
[19:50] <sacarlson> trishxo: you did want to recieve sms, do you have an android phone to play with?
[19:50] <Johannes_> so there couldn't be an only one ip problem
[19:51] <trishxo> sacarlson: nope.
[19:51] <sacarlson> trishxo: well no use looking into it then
[19:51] <Alexleonc> hello
[19:51] <drklunk> i assume your xbox has wireless?
[19:52] <Johannes_> no I have an older xbox without wireless
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[19:52] <trishxo> sacarlson: you're stupid, I'M LOOKING FOR EITHER A PROGRAM OR WEBSITE TO SEND AND RECEIVE SMS MESSAGES. MY BLACKBERRY IS NOT WORKING.
[19:52] <Alexleonc> can someone give me a quick help??? :)
[19:52] <drklunk> youre trying to do this wirelessly, right?
[19:53] <theadmin> trishxo: Please keep your attitude down here. Try pinger (textfree)
[19:53] <ThinkT510> Alexleonc: if you have a quick problem...
[19:53] <Praxi> bullium, hmm as far as I can see, that just lets me change the key combination to launch terminal.  what I want, when I do something in the file explorer, either key combination, or right click, I want it to open a terminal with the path set to whatever directory I'm currently in.
[19:53] <Johannes_> no i tried to share my connetion over my mobile internet stick over lan
[19:53] <Johannes_> tu xbox
[19:53] <Johannes_> *to xbox
[19:53] <teddy_> coucou
[19:53] <sacarlson> trishxo: there are many websites that will allow limited activity on sms,  as you have already been told so if those didn't already provide what you wanted what else could we think?
[19:54] <Alexleonc> ThinkT510: yeah ithink cus i have my usb drive mounted but i cant acces to its files :/
[19:54] <Praxi> bullium, I might be reaching for the stars there, but its something I had on windows, and was very handy :)
[19:54] <teddy_> Bonjour tout le monde !
[19:54] <drklunk> oh ok, sorry, that might be an issue beyond what i know ><
[19:54] <teddy_> hi
[19:54] <ThinkT510> Praxi: i can do that in xfce's thunar, just a right-click away
[19:54] <Praxi> for windows I had it set as a right click in a folder, and context menu would open command prompt here
[19:54] <ThinkT510> Praxi: not sure for unity though
[19:55] <Johannes_> My problem is, that I don't have a crossover cabel
[19:55] <superuser_ir> how to solve this error "http://pastebin.com/xX124vb4"
[19:55] <Johannes_> then it would work
[19:55] <Johannes_> .
[19:55] <ThinkT510> Alexleonc: what filesystem?
[19:55] <Praxi> roger ThinkT510.  Just a nice to have thing :)
[19:55] <llutz> !info libltdl7
[19:56] <llutz> superuser_ir: check your sources. and if you still ask about debian, you're still wrong here. pls respect the guidelines
[19:56] <Praxi> LOL ThinkT510 google for some of those terms brings up xfce
[19:56] <Alexleonc> ThinkT510: i mean i can use my folders and stuff using my mouse but when i use terminal i cant
[19:57] <trevor69420> Johannes_ what do u need a crossover for? what equipment?
[19:57] <Praxi> I think I'm using unity (dock thing on the left), how do I tell what file browser I'm using?
[19:57] <ThinkT510> Alexleonc: you know how to use the terminal to manipulate files?
[19:57] <malkauns> Praxi, .."about"
[19:57] <ThinkT510> Praxi: i think unity uses nautilus
[19:57] <sun_devil> zykotick9, should I just install a larger drive and reinstall?
[19:58] <Johannes_> trevor: I need it to share my internet stick connection over lan to my xbox, and i don't have a crossover cable
[19:58] <Johannes_> and with the normal cabel it don't work with the option in ubuntu netzwork manager
[19:59] <Alexleonc> ThinkT510: yeah :/ i did find the solultion :P
[19:59] <subh> hi all, i want to disable my ARP module for some experiment so how can i do this.
[19:59] <bullium> Praxi, I've done that with gnome 2.x
[19:59] <ThinkT510> !yay | Alexleonc
[19:59] <Praxi> if I'm a new install of ubuntu, I'm gnome 3 by default right?
[19:59] <Praxi> or am I confusing something there
[19:59] <sun_devil> I vaio has (2) gigs of ram
[19:59] <ThinkT510> Praxi: unity by default
[20:00] <bullium> Praxi, correct
[20:00] <ThinkT510> Praxi: unity is built on top of gnome 3
[20:00] <Johannes_> okey, so no one could help me? :/
[20:00] <Praxi> gnome3 is the desktop, unity is the..window manager?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> !unity | Praxi
[20:01] <theadmin> Praxi: Gnome is the desktop, Unity is the shell (Gnome has several shells, those are Gnome Panel, Gnome Shell and Unity)
[20:01] <ThinkT510> Praxi: unity is another shell for gnome3, it uses compiz as it's window manager
[20:01] <theadmin> Praxi: (There are also unofficial ones like Cinnamon)
[20:01] <sun_devil> Sort of bulky but I like the large screen, I feel like I need telescope to read anything on a newer notebook
[20:02] <godofwar> unity is still kinda buggy.  for example window movement can really be laggy even on a high end system
[20:02] <sun_devil> Ubuntu runs great on my older vaio laptop
[20:02] <godofwar> went to gnome 3 and love it
[20:03] <subh>  hi all, i want to disable my ARP module for some experiment so how can i do this. please help me
[20:03] <jjg_> anyone running ubuntu as a VM using vmware fusion ever seen a problem with the installer unable to locate the "CD-ROM"   I am installing from an ISO, so not sure the issue
[20:04] <Praxi> !Gnomeshell
[20:04] <theadmin> !notunity | praxi
[20:04] <godofwar> jjg_i have had this problem before and it turned out I had a bad iso downloaded
[20:05] <Praxi> doh reboot for centrify brb
[20:05] <ThinkT510> Praxi: i highly recommend xfce if you want an alternative
[20:05] <jjg_> godofware : will redownload, thanks
[20:05] <Praxi> ok ThinkT510 will check that out, looking for something thats pretty but still sorta noobfriendly, and I don't care about being tablet friendly.
[20:05] <_enigma_> hi, I can't open pdfs because programs seem to want something in wine to open it, default afaik is set to evince
[20:07] <subh>  hi all, i want to disable my ARP module for some experiment so how can i do this.
[20:07] <velko_> _enigma_, are you trying to open the pdf from some windows program running under wine or from the file manager?
[20:08] <_enigma_> velko_ Referencer, previously firefox
[20:08] <adilet> ciao
[20:08] <sacarlson> subh: I did an lsmod | grep arp  and I don't see it on my system, I'm not sure what or where your ARP module is
[20:09] <subh> sacarlson : i want to disable address resolution protocol in my linux box but i dont know how to do this
[20:09] <QA> hey all, QA about ubuntu on a macbook
[20:10] <ThinkT510> !mac | QA
[20:10] <QA> gonna use refit to do the job, but Q is ... can I ever rollback if I go only Ubuntu, as in single boot Ubuntu
[20:10] <_enigma_> velko_ gnome-open seems to work fine loading evince, but for some reason Referencer will only go through wine, I just fixed a similiar issue with Firefox
[20:11] <sacarlson> subh: arp is very low in ethernet I'm not sure you can go much lower everything seems to link into the mac address that I think is part of arp
[20:11] <QA> made the mistake of upgrading the macbook my mom is using to the latest version
[20:11] <QA> OMG is it SLOOOOOWWWWW now
[20:11] <QA> :(
[20:11] <ThinkT510> QA: why bother? the whole point of a mac is having osx
[20:11] <QA> so, next best option, she doesn't use the mac for the IOS that is for sure, is to go Ubuntu, or ... dare I say it ... lubuntu
[20:11] <QA> :)
[20:12] <QA> yeah, but she likes the "maccy"
[20:12] <QA> machine that is
[20:12] <subh> sacarlson : how to disable all the process related to arp. I want to use my program in replacement of arp
[20:12] <QA> dude, it is my old lady
[20:12] <QA> you should know the deal
[20:12] <QA> lol
[20:12] <sacarlson> subh: I guess it would be the lowist driver for your nic you want to play with
[20:13] <QA> I'm just wondering that down the line, there might be, for whatever reason, the need to roll back to the osx. once I go only *buntu, can I rollback to only osx?
[20:14] <QA> guess it should just be a matter of booting off the osx discs I suppose
[20:14] <velko_> _enigma_, maybe the type pdf is associated for some reason in .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list with the wrong application?
[20:14] <subh> sacarlson : i got some modification in sysctl.cfg to disable ARP. but how to load file .
[20:15] <QA> replace arp?
[20:15] <QA> why, if you don;t mind me asking?
[20:15] <teknoprep_> pture
[20:15] <QA> arp is typically bound to the network layer
[20:15] <subh> sacarlson : how the .cfg file come to affect ARP
[20:15] <QA> so only reason to disable arp would be to fiddle with the network resolution
[20:16] <QA> arp, Address Resolution Protocol
[20:16] <subh> QA : i need to do some experiment
[20:16] <QA> ties MAC to IP
[20:16] <subh> so i want to disable ARP protocol
[20:16] <QA> okay, at the network layer?
[20:16] <_enigma_> velko_ application/pdf=evince.desktop
[20:16] <subh> no at data link layer
[20:17] <QA> interesting. hmmm, it is a weird request I think
[20:17] <QA> typically from the NW stack it is bound to the TCP Stack and the driver there
[20:17] <QA> your llc - layer 2 process will manage it automagically
[20:17] <subh> i got something relate to sysctl.cfg
[20:17] <velko_> _enigma_, and if you click on a pdf in the file manager it gets correctly opened with evince?
[20:17] <QA> so, only way is probably to unbind the driver
[20:17] <QA> but
[20:17] <QA> arp is actually th program that interogates the stack and wire cache
[20:18] <subh> but dont know how this will be come to picture
[20:18] <QA> no, just thinking it through
[20:18] <QA> I'm a network engineer, hence the NW knowledge
[20:18] <subh> QA :  i got this link http://kb.linuxvirtualserver.org/wiki/Using_arp_announce/arp_ignore_to_disable_ARP
[20:18] <_enigma_> velko_ yup, seems to be more or less application specific and there are no options in the program (unlike FF) to change the default
[20:19] <QA> hmmm, Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) is a telecommunications protocol used for resolution of network layer addresses into link layer addresses, a critical function in multiple-access networks. ARP was defined by RFC 826 in 1982.[1] It is Internet Standard STD 37. It is also the name of the program for manipulating these addresses in most operating systems.
[20:19] <velko_> _enigma_, can you ask the referencer guys then? i wasn't even aware that this program exists
[20:19] <QA> from WP
[20:19] <subh> QA : i got the cfg file but i dont know how this loads and start to affect
[20:20] <QA> check this link
[20:20] <QA> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arptables
[20:20] <ThinkT510> !cookie | QA
[20:20] <QA> maybe try the arptables instead
[20:20] <subh> QA : i know all this stuff, i am doing my thesis work on ARP cache poisoning
[20:20] <QA> arp manages the network layer at the physical connection
[20:20] <sacarlson> subh: I guess with this sysctl [-n] [-e] -p <filename>    (default /etc/sysctl.conf)
[20:20] <QA> I wouldn;t mess with it
[20:20] <velko_> _enigma_, or try to look up if a configuration file exists. something like ~/.referencer perhaps?
[20:21] <QA> lol
[20:21] <QA> like trying to make your own ip protocol
[20:21] <Aucun> Is there an apache2 setup and configure document for Ubuntu?
[20:21] <QA> use the arp program to do what you want I would say
[20:22] <sacarlson> QA: subh: I guess you could skip layers as long as you still have two other layers you want to link
[20:22] <QA> my best advise, but I'm know to be wrong
[20:22] <_enigma_> velko_ no ~/.referencer
[20:22] <velko_> _enigma_, and in ~/.local/ ?
[20:22] <QA> Aucun: what u after?
[20:22] <sacarlson> subh: QA: but I assume this is some learning exersize
[20:22] <Star_Light> hello... I want to discuss with somebody who knows domain companies in abroad. I am greek and our companies are expensive in that.... is there any room in order to discuss for that?
[20:22] <Aucun> I need to know how to install and configure apache2 on Ubuntu, mostly the configure part.
[20:23] <QA> to run a website/web-server?
[20:23] <QA> just search for apache config
[20:23] <Star_Light> Aucun that is not difficult you really need a good how to tutorial especially for that
[20:23] <Star_Light> ;)
[20:23] <QA> check out "how to geek"
[20:23] <_enigma_> velko_ not that I can find
[20:23] <QA> they usually have loads of tuts on configs
[20:23] <subh> QA : sacarlson : if i edited my sysctl.cfg file then how this will affect my process
[20:24] <QA> subh: hmmm, likely in a bad way
[20:24] <LjL> Aucun: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Installing_Apache_2 should be of use
[20:24] <QA> sorry, don;t know much about the file, so can't honestly comment
[20:25] <sacarlson> Aucun: there are many settings for apache2 that can be modified by changes files at /etc/apache2
[20:25] <velko_> _enigma_, you can go also the hard route and try to figure out which files get opened by referencer with "lsof" or "strace". but you have to filter out a lot of information until you get to the file you need...
[20:25] <mintman> celthunder: working on Xmonad having to finish tutorial
[20:25] <mintman> celthunder: running cabal now to setup layout of xmonad
[20:25] <subh> i want to know when this file is read , do i need to restart my pc to get the affect of modification in .cfg file
[20:26] <sacarlson> subh:  that's like saying if I change my program how will it effect the operation of my program.  that would depend on what was in the file
[20:26] <mintman> Shojo: hello
[20:26] <velko_> _enigma_, if you decide to do this it might be even easier to obtain the source code and look it up there
[20:26] <subh> sacarlson : means do i need to restart my pc or there is some alternative thing to read that cfg file
[20:27] <_enigma_> velko_ probably
[20:27] <_enigma_> velko_ I was hoping it was just something I had missed since I recently had a similar issue with FireFox, thought the cause may have been the same
[20:27] <sacarlson> subh: sorry I thought I gave you the command already http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_sysctl.htm  but some value that chane in sysctl require reboot,  not sure if your do or not
[20:28] <velko_> _enigma_, maybe. i really don't know. sorry that i cannot help you with this
[20:28] <_enigma_> velko_ thanks for trying none the less
[20:28] <Shojo> hi mintman
[20:29] <subh> sacarlson : thanks
[20:29] <mintman> Shojo: hello whats up!
[20:29] <Shojo> oh a friend's granmda had a stroke.. :(
[20:29] <sacarlson> subh: but your link also showed you another method echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/arp_ignore
[20:29] <mintman> Shojo: Hey srry to hear that
[20:30] <Shojo> hey how r u?
[20:30] <ThinkT510> !ot
[20:30] <subh> sacarlson :  but that need restart, correct.
[20:31] <sacarlson> subh: don't you read your own links Note that the arp_announce/arp_ignore sysctls must be setup correctly, before the VIP address is brought up at a logical interface at real servers.
[20:32] <subh> sacarlson : ok i will read it :) thanks alot
[20:32] <sacarlson> shbh: so I guess if you bring down the nic like ifconfig eth0 down ;   do your change then ; ifconfig eht0 up
[20:33] <subh> ok
[20:33] <goddard> how can i start a program without it locking down my terminal
[20:34] <theadmin> goddard: something &disown
[20:34] <velko_> goddard, append an ampersand at the end of the command
[20:36] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone
[20:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right.. quick question...
[20:37] <ThinkT510> but will it be a quick answer...
[20:38] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i need to format a portable hd as udf i run a  mkudffs --media-type=hd /dev/sdb1 on it but it did nothing
[20:38] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the format remained the same..
[20:38] <Gorilla_No_Baka> what am i doing wrong here?
[20:39] <ThinkT510> !find udf
[20:39] <Mech0z> I just did a sudo halt to shutdown my ubuntu pc, but it dont really shut down and I cant access it now?
[20:39] <jrib> Mech0z: what did it do instead?
[20:39] <Ebron> Do I still need to use the alternate installer if I want an encrypted installation in Ubuntu Desktop 11.10 64-bit?
[20:39] <Mech0z> jrib dunno I used putty
[20:40] <Mech0z> but its still running
[20:40] <Mech0z> no input on my screen either if I plug that in
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Ebron: If you want an encrypted home, no.
[20:40] <jrib> Mech0z: press the power button
[20:41] <Ebron> Jordan_U: I want everything encrypted - even /boot and swap
[20:41] <Mech0z> jrib so no powerloss when I have done that if I just press and hold?
[20:41] <Ebron> in darkness bind them and so forth
[20:41] <jrib> Mech0z: try just pressing one time for a second first
[20:42] <Mech0z> jrib nothing, not even power in my keybaord :s
[20:42] <jrib> Mech0z: I don't think you have any choice but to hold it down then
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Ebron: It's impossible to have "everything" encrypted. At least part of the bootloader needs to be unencrypted for the BIOS to be able to load it, and do you really have sensitive information in /boot/?
[20:43] <velko> Ebron, maybe this link will help you http://madduck.net/docs/cryptdisk/
[20:43] <Ebron> Jordan_U: I was under the impression that an attacker could install a malicious boot-loader able to sniff passwords
[20:44] <Ebron> ... given he/she/.. has access to my computer
[20:44] <Ebron> Thank you velko :)
[20:45] <nibbler__> Ebron, that might happen, but its not soo easy to accomplish and maybe more easy to - at least detect
[20:46] <sacarlson> Ebron: I guess that's what make smart cards cool because they always give a different pass code depending on the random seed provided
[20:46] <Jordan_U> Ebron: That can be done even with "full disk" encryption. Encryption is not a means of preventing mallicious modification, only a means of preventing reading data without the password. If you give someone physical access then all bets are off.
[20:46] <nibbler__> Ebron, with grub 2 its possible to even encrypt /boot - but that does not change too much. /boot info is not secret and some cleartext will always be there
[20:47] <Mech0z> jrib still works, will shut it down with UI this time then :)
[20:47] <jrib> Mech0z: might try "sudo poweroff"
[20:47] <velko> Jordan_U, you can always boot from usb stick and have everything on the hdd encrypted
[20:47] <Mech0z> ok
[20:47] <Mech0z> tried shutdown
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Ebron: To give a trivial example, something much more sophisticated could be done, someone could take your computer, remove the hard drive entirely, install an OS on the hard drive which at boot looks like it has your normal password prompt, but after entering your password it emails said password to the attacker and procedes to play a video of the attacker laghing at you.
[20:49] <sorakun> ubottu hello
[20:49] <Ebron> Jordan_U: aii.. don't scare me ;)
[20:49] <criipt> Jordan_U, Neat =)
[20:50] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: that method wouldn't work with a smart card as they seed changes each boot , also velko: usb boot sounds prity secure as far as I know
[20:52] <greenit> hi, how can i make an ubuntu-computer "visible" for the rest of the network?
[20:52] <Zaitzev> hm, how do I get quicktime videos to play in the browser? oO
[20:52] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: velko: Ebron: Hardware keylogger defeats boot from USB stick also. The important thing to understand is that if you give an attacker physical access, from that point on you must consider the computer compromised.
[20:52] <sacarlson> greenit: visible to share files?  samba?
[20:53] <greenit> sacarlson, yes, sambashare alrdy works, but only with typing in the ip
[20:54] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: ebron: oh and I guess they could flash the bios that's before the usb boot so that takes that out as far as imposible to hack
[20:54] <bc81> Gorilla_No_Baka: check the answer(s) here, it may be of use to you: http://superuser.com/questions/39942/using-udf-on-a-usb-flash-drive
[20:55] <Workernaut> hello! My laptop hdd is dying, so i'm running an ubuntu livedisc and backing things up, trying to find the windows product keys.
[20:55] <Workernaut> Any idea how to give produkey privileges over the slave drive's windows directory?
[20:55] <Praxi> hmm I installed centrify and locked myself out of my box, thats not good
[20:56] <Workernaut> all else fails, i'll install produkey on the windows side and hope i can back everything up before my hdd dies
[20:56] <velko> Workernaut, i don't see how this question relates to ubuntu
[20:56] <Workernaut> velko, ubuntu file manipulation privileges?
[20:56] <Workernaut> I mean, it relates to both windows and ubuntu. Windows is currently on a slave, so windows is currently irrelevant.
[20:57] <sacarlson> greenit: I'm not sure it seems mine are visable and I did nothing in samba to make it happen,  I think at times it takes hours before they are first seen though
[20:57] <Workernaut> actually, i dont think i've ever gotten help from #ubuntu. I think you dodge my questions every time I come in here.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Workernaut: Please clarify "Any idea how to give produkey privileges over the slave drive's windows directory?"
[21:00] <velko> Workernaut, what are produkey privileges?
[21:01] <sacarlson> greenit: oh and there is a setting in samba for wins  wins support = Yes
[21:02] <no-name-> does anybody know what directory in which to find the unity wallpapers in 11.10 ?
[21:02] <Oer> Workernaut, if you have a Legal Windows, you have a product key sticker on your machine. else you cannot extract it from the hdd.
[21:02] <linxeh> Workernaut: I have a legal windows sticker on my machine. I cant read the code off it anymore though
[21:03] <greenit> any1 knows how to tell the network the name of my computer, so that i don't always have to enter the ip when i want to access the shared folders?
[21:03] <DBan> Windows OS stickers on laptops almost seem like they're designed to fade off...
[21:04] <trkemist> Anyone here tried using an Ubuntu Laptop connected to a Projector?
[21:04] <DBan> I don't know how to get a Windows key off through Ubuntu, but I do know how to from inside of Windows itself.
[21:04] <trkemist> I'm concerned that I won't be able to on my laptop
[21:04] <Nullzie> why is there no scrollbar in the unity terminal?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> trkemist: I've done it, but if you have a presentation I would highly recommend you test it out before presenting if at all possible.
[21:05] <Oer> greenit, terminal: hostname -A
[21:05] <no-name-> oh, found it. it was /usr/share/backgrounds
[21:05] <velko> trkemist, i have connected debian proper laptop. it just worked. so shall ubuntu
[21:05] <trkemist> Jordan_U: Yeah i'm trying to
[21:05] <dicannamas> does anyone know if amsn is working properly with hotmail messenger?
[21:05] <greenit> Oer, there is an empty line
[21:05] <Pici> Nullzie: iirc, it should be using the same overlay scrollbar that the rest of Ubuntu uses by default.  If you can't even see that, you can change your terminal profile settings to enable it.
[21:05] <Jordan_U> trkemist: Are you having any problems?
[21:05] <trkemist> velko: yeah. i connect a VGA monitor and it won't show up, so I rebooted my device and it wouldn't show. It has a hotkey for VGA out (its a DEll), still no go
[21:06] <Ebron> So what exactly is the difference between the installer found on the "download"-page on ubuntu.com and the one found on the "alternative-download"-page? The "try it out from usb first"-feature?
[21:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> bc81  cheers mate .. lemme have a go
[21:06] <trkemist> Jordan_U: Yeah its a standard Xubuntu install on a Dell, nothin gfancy
[21:06] <velko> trkemist, not very reassuring then...
[21:06] <Viking667> 'llo all. I've got a problem...
[21:06] <Oer> greenit, try gksu gedit /etc/hostname
[21:07] <Viking667> in my user menu (the menu I get when I click on my name) I don't have an "Account Settings" entry.
[21:07] <Jordan_U> !hostname | greenit Oer
[21:07] <Viking667> It seems to be the main way to configure accounts ... what command does that actually call up?
[21:07] <Pici> Nullzie: If you don't care for the look of the Ubuntu scrollbars, you can remove the overlay-scrollbar package.
[21:08] <Oer> thnx Jordan_U, hostname -A should show it, i guess there is no hostname defined then.
[21:08] <Praxi> hmm is there a way to unencrypt my home directory?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> Ebron: The alternative download page has more options, but it also has options for downloading the same exact file that the normal download page will give you.
[21:08] <Nullzie> Pici: thanks but Im not seeing any scrollbar in the gnome terminal whatsoever
[21:08] <velko> Viking667, what are you trying to do? add an user? change password? something else?
[21:08] <Nullzie> Pici: I have also enabled it in the profile settings, but nothing happens
[21:09] <trkemist> Jordan_U: Any suggestions?
[21:09] <Pici> Nullzie: You don't see anything if you move the mouse to the right of the window?
[21:09] <Nullzie> Pici: well a resize icon instead of the cursor but thats it
[21:09] <greenit> Oer, Jordan_U, my hostname is "shadow" and in /etc/hosts there is the entry "127.0.1.1 shadow" .... why does it not show up?
[21:09] <Ebron> Jordan_U: I see, then I am confused as to which installer to download if I want to put on my tin-foil hat and rund down the encryption-hole
[21:10] <Jordan_U> trkemist: I was successfull using the GNOME UI for displays, I expect that the XFCE UI for displays is similar. Have you tried that? Does the UI change at all when an external monitor is connected?
[21:10] <Pici> Nullzie: hmmm...
[21:10] <Ebron> Jordan_U: even though you made a convincing argument before :)
[21:10] <Nullzie> Pici: in nautilus i see it light up to a red bar and a little scroll bar appears, but in termal - nothing
[21:11] <Pici> Nullzie: Are you using byobu?
[21:11] <Nullzie> Pici: not sure what that is. this is a fresh oneiric install
[21:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> bc81  it did not worked.. i checked with gparted and the hd is still listed as fat
[21:12] <Pici> Nullzie: Its bascially a set of presets for screen.
[21:12] <Nullzie> Pici: its gnome terminal 3.0.1 if that helps
[21:13] <Pici> Nullzie: Can you try running byobu-disable to see if that fixes anything?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> Ebron: My suggestion would be to go with home directory encryption, as that's where all your sensitive information is likely to be (this will also cause swap to be encrypted). That will prevent anyone from getting your sensitive data if they steal your laptop, and nothing will prevent them from getting your password, and thus your files, if they have physical access to your computer without your knowledge and you continue to use it.
[21:13] <Nullzie> Pici: ok
[21:14] <Nullzie> Pici: its byobu isnt installed
[21:15] <zyxxx_> #scons
[21:15] <Nullzie> Pici: could it have something to do with compiz wobble effect?
[21:16] <derpladee> hey guys i want to connet two computers with an ethernet crossover cable and setting static ip
[21:16] <derpladee> how do i go about doing that in ubuntu?
[21:16] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7?
[21:16] <sacarlson> greenit: this info looks detailed http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/NetworkBrowsing.html#id2582304  seems to set your name in smb.conf  wins server = <name or IP address>
[21:16] <Oer> !ics | derpladee
[21:17] <CoJaBo> How do I recover an encrypted home directory? ecryptfs-recover-private gives the error "Could not find your wrapped passphrase file"
[21:17] <Pici> Nullzie: it shouldnt.  You could try disabling the fancy scrollbar overlay, but I'm just guessing at this point.
[21:17] <derpladee> nah i just want to share some files
[21:18] <trkemist> Jordan_U: It does
[21:18] <trevor69420> derpladee, u  may not need a cross over cable for that
[21:18] <trkemist> Jordan_U: it goes from widescreen to a more standard 1024x800 which is fine
[21:18] <derpladee> then what do you suggest
[21:18] <trkemist> Jordan_U: However I am not able to get the monitor to light up
[21:18] <Nullzie> Pici: tried with byobu terminal but same issue
[21:18] <trevor69420> derpladee, most machines auto-sensing to do it so you can use any cable
[21:19] <trevor69420> use auto-sensing*
[21:19] <Viking667> sorry about the delay in replying. I want to toggle the auto-login feature of my user, but it doesn't seem to work properly with lightdm or with gdm. (I'm using gdm at the moment)
[21:19] <derpladee> so what
[21:19] <derpladee> do you want me to go find a cable that isn't a crossover cable?
[21:19] <trevor69420> i was just saying derpladee no just saying you dont NEED it
[21:19] <trevor69420> it will work with or without one
[21:19] <derpladee> but how can i make it work
[21:19] <derpladee> with windows machines i just set static ip
[21:20] <derpladee> but i can't see anywhere in ubuntu where i can do that
[21:20] <velko> Viking667, edit /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf manually
[21:20] <trevor69420> sorry... what are you trying to do exactly share a file?
[21:20] <Nach0z> static IPs are easy as heck in ubuntu >_>
[21:20] <derpladee> just windows share
[21:20] <trevor69420> derpladee you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:20] <trevor69420> and set your static there
[21:20] <Viking667> velko: already found that enabling autologin crashes gdm.
[21:20] <Viking667> sigh.
[21:20] <Viking667> andit's a known bug
[21:21] <velko> Viking667, so what do you expect to learn here?
[21:21] <ThinkT510> !samba | derpladee
[21:21] <guntbert> trevor69420: derpladee  can use network manager too ...
[21:21] <sacarlson> derpladee: the network-manager gui provides a method to set ubuntu to a static ip address
[21:21] <derpladee> i'm already running samba, i connect well over the wireless router
[21:21] <trevor69420> guntbert, thats true i guess... i havent used a GUI in years tho
[21:21] <derpladee> but the wireless router is quite slow
[21:21] <derpladee> so i want to use a cable instead
[21:21] <Viking667> well, what I wanted was where the heck "Account Settings" menu disappeared to, and what command it calls when the menu entry is invoked.
[21:21] <trevor69420> derpladee ok then set your ubuntu up with static and your windows machine with static
[21:22] <trevor69420> derpladee, http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2961
[21:22] <Mech0z> how is it I view status of a filesystem, something about --status
[21:22] <trevor69420> u can also use the network manager as guntbert pointed out
[21:23] <Viking667> velko: ?
[21:23] <CoJaBo> Is this a bug?
[21:23] <sacarlson> derpladee: doesn't your adsl ISP modem have more than one ethernet connection?  then it should just plug and play if you have an extra cable
[21:23] <derpladee> it does but it's not available to me
[21:23] <trevor69420> i think he's looking to go adhoc sacarlson
[21:23] <derpladee> it's in some dude's room
[21:23] <derpladee> and it's late right now
[21:23] <trevor69420> derplade set your ethernet port to a static on both the windows and the ubuntu
[21:24] <trevor69420> derpladee *
[21:24] <derpladee> yea works well on the windows machine
[21:24] <derpladee> i set it in etc/network/interfaces now
[21:24] <sacarlson> derpladee: ok then strait cable it is then, with just the added manual address settings
[21:24] <velko> Viking667, gnome-control-center ?
[21:24] <derpladee> but the eth0 interface doesn't seem to be reacting
[21:24] <derpladee> if i do "ifconfig eth0" it doesn't say it has an ip or anything
[21:25] <smplman> derpladee: ifconfig eth0 down ... ifconfig eth0 up
[21:25] <derpladee> i did
[21:25] <Viking667> When I try "User Accounts", the gnome-control-center closes. Not useful.
[21:25] <sacarlson> derpladee: you have to provide the ip  with sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.22
[21:25] <smplman> not if its in /etc/interfaces
[21:25] <Oins> Hi. I have the following Crontab line "5 8-19 * * * command parameter". Is this line correct, if i like to start the command five Minutes after the full hour, but only between 8 and 19 oClock. Like 08:05, 09:05, ... 19:05
[21:25] <trevor69420> derplade do you see the wired interface in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[21:26] <theadmin> Viking667: You can use the adduser, userdel and usermod commands instead if the control center is buggy somehow
[21:26] <trevor69420> as eth1 maybe
[21:26] <trevor69420> or eth0
[21:26] <trevor69420> dunno which interface it is
[21:26] <Viking667> sigh.
[21:26] <sacarlson> smplman: sorry your right not if it's in /etc/interfaces sorry derpladee
[21:26] <trevor69420> derpladee, what if you just run ifconfig with nothing
[21:26] <Viking667> okay. Thank you.
[21:26] <trevor69420> just ifconfig does it show your wired interface there at all
[21:26] <trevor69420> ?
[21:26] <trevor69420> or is it just WLAN and lo
[21:26] <derpladee> then it shows all my interfaces instead of just the eth0 interface
[21:27] <CoJaBo> ..huh, where do i report bugs for ecryptfs ?
[21:27] <trevor69420> derplade but does it show your ETH0 as well
[21:27] <trevor69420> derpladee*
[21:27] <derpladee> yea
[21:28] <trevor69420> !paste
[21:28] <trevor69420> derpladee, check ur private message
[21:28] <derpladee> can't we just talk in here?
[21:28] <grzesag>  HI, I need help with openload - to run it in cron e.g. ever 5 minutes and save results into file. Please help
[21:28] <trevor69420> easier if i just explain it without all the distractions
[21:29] <trevor69420> but ok if you want
[21:29] <igor_> hello
[21:29] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7? Using plymouthd --tty=/dev/tty0 just makes the process hang.
[21:29] <trevor69420> derpladee can you paste the contents of /etc/network/interface to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:29] <grzesag>  I have this entry in crontab: */5 * * * * openload -l 5 www.example.com >> /home/user/results.txt
[21:30] <trevor69420> i want to see what your config looks like derpladee
[21:30] <Mech0z> how is it I view status of a filesystem, something about --status
[21:30] <velko> Oins, it looks right to me
[21:30] <sacarlson> grzesag: */5 * * * * openload >openload.log
[21:30] <Oins> velko: thanks !
[21:30] <derpladee> okay i figured it out now
[21:30] <trevor69420> derpladee, also paste the output of just ifconfig if you can
[21:30] <derpladee> thanks for your help though
[21:30] <igor_> i am still new to linux.  and i'm getting familliar with terminal.  Can someone point me to some simple commands that i can use on a daily basis to get me more used to it?
[21:31] <derpladee> i wrote in a gateway in etc/network/interfaces and that kinda bugged it up apparently
[21:31] <igor_> link would be fine
[21:31] <ThinkT510> !terminal | igor_
[21:31] <derpladee> it worked alright when i removed the gateway
[21:31] <derpladee> (since there wasn't any)
[21:31] <sacarlson> grzesag: looks good to me other than maybe openload requires sudo?
[21:31] <trevor69420> yea no gateway in your set up since it's direct
[21:32] <grzesag> what problem I have when I run command openload it gives results like this  I have this entry: MaTps   4.32, Tps   1.20, Resp Time  1.497, Err   0%, Count   212
[21:33] <trevor69420> igor_ you should start with learning to navigate the directories using the command line... like learn about 'cd' and 'ls' and 'locate' and some file editing
[21:33] <grzesag> but when I run vai cron it doesn save it
[21:33] <Praxi> hmm how can I eject an unrecognized cd on a mac running ubuntu with a windows keyboard
[21:33] <sacarlson> igor_ well there are so many commands as seen with ls /bin  and ls /usr/bin  and most commands have docs that can be seen with man like man ls
[21:33] <grzesag> as well as: Max Response time:   7.012 sec someting lk this is saved as Max Response time:   0.000s
[21:33] <grzesag> at this is what I actually need
[21:33] <theadmin> grzesag: You should write a script which directs the output of your command to a file.
[21:33] <ThinkT510> Praxi: tried typing eject in a terminal?
[21:34] <igor_> got any links?
[21:34] <Praxi> your a god ThinkT510
[21:34] <ThinkT510> Praxi: haha
[21:34] <trevor69420> Praxi if you want to force eject it you can start up your mac while holding the mouse button down
[21:34] <trevor69420> it'll force the cd to eject
[21:34] <Praxi> ahh good to know!
[21:35] <trevor69420> u can also use a paperclip
[21:35] <Praxi> I must be getting old couldnt see that on the mac tray
[21:35] <sacarlson> grzesag: might try */5 * * * * sudo openload -l 5 www.example.com >> /home/user/results.txt
[21:36] <velko> igor_, ubottu has a link for you. just look at the last line of his message
[21:36] <Mech0z> is there something you can press during boot to see what its doing? (Its just staying there forever)
[21:36] <igor_> yes i saw that. just fishing for more info. thanks.
[21:36] <grzesag> sacarlson,  I will try
[21:36] <trevor69420> praxi i assume its a slot loading mac right?
[21:36] <Praxi> ya
[21:36] <Pumpkin-> sacarlson: using sudo in cron seems unwise. Surely you would just set the entry in roots crontab ?
[21:36] <sacarlson> grzesag: oh but that would also require that your sudo user not require a password so maybe just do it in root cron with sudo crontab -e
[21:36] <Pumpkin-> like that :)
[21:37] <ThinkT510> igor_: maybe the guys in #bash know great beginners guides
[21:37] <grzesag> sacarlson, ok
[21:37] <igor_> thanks
[21:37] <trevor69420> oh i guiess it's not an option on that machine then Praxi
[21:37] <sacarlson> Pumpkin-: yes true
[21:37] <trevor69420> sorry
[21:37] <Shojo> Mech0z:  did you try Esc?
[21:37] <trevor69420> but u can do the mouse button tho
[21:37] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna: are u there :D i just want to thank you because last time i was talking to you i restart the computer and found that all the list is perfect :D
[21:37] <Mech0z> Shojo does nothing
[21:37] <Mech0z> still purple
[21:37] <Shojo> O.o
[21:37] <Shojo> Tab?
[21:38] <Mech0z> nope
[21:38] <Shojo> if Tab works, type "live" maybe that works?
[21:38] <theadmin> What are you two trying to do?
[21:38] <Mech0z> Shojo I can reboot, then I can pick recovery mode
[21:38] <grzesag> this is bash script I wrote http://pastebin.com/iKZXPnWS any suggestion
[21:38] <trevor69420> another option Praxi that works for me is when you turn on the machine you can take a piece of cardboard or another cd and press it against the CD while startign the laptop up this will prevent the disk from spinning and after a minute or so the laptop should eject it
[21:39] <trevor69420> but try the mouse button first
[21:39] <Mech0z> Shojo tab dont work
[21:39] <Mech0z> it reacts to a single ctlr alt delete
[21:39] <theadmin> grzesag: This looks good
[21:40] <Shojo> Mech0z: if you start in recovery mode, can you shut down normally?
[21:40] <Mech0z> yes
[21:40] <Mech0z> I can boot into ubuntu as well
[21:40] <Shojo> and when you do, do you get the option to start normally?
[21:40] <trevor69420> also praxi if all else fails you can eject it from the Apple BIOS (which is actually just Open firmware... if you turn on your macbook pro while holding the Command+Option+O+F this will bring you to the open firmware text interface
[21:40] <grzesag> I know but if you could run it as command and cron yi can see what is my problem
[21:40] <trevor69420> just type in 'eject cd' and it should eject
[21:40] <Shojo> so what exactly is the problem?
[21:41] <trevor69420> then type in mac-boot to continue booting
[21:41] <grzesag> when you run command you gat statistics and when I run ti as cron I do not get it (all numers are zeros)
[21:41] <Praxi> ahh nice, very good to know trevor69420
[21:42] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, I'm here so yhou are up and running now?
[21:42] <Mech0z> Shojo I get recovery menu (limited to read only menu)
[21:42] <Fyodorovna> you*
[21:42] <jetole> Does anyone know where I can download the 9.04 iso?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> trevor69420: Intel macs use EFI now, not Open Firmware (unfortunately).
[21:42] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  yeah :D and everything is great :D i just came to thank you :D
[21:42] <sacarlson> grzesag: oh maybe it's like running top in cron,  I don't think you could as it's changing and moving the curser
[21:42] <ThinkT510> jetole: no longer supported
[21:43] <jetole> ThinkT510: Right
[21:43] <Jordan_U> jetole: Why do you want Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:43] <trevor69420> Jordan_U same commands tho from the interface
[21:43] <Fyodorovna> Sifrazooy, no problem, glad your up and running.;)
[21:43] <grzesag> maybe I do not know, I tried with ping and it works fine
[21:43] <Sifrazooy> Fyodorovna:  thanks :D
[21:43] <jetole> Jordan_U: I want to install it on a VM to test some changes before applying it to a live production system
[21:44] <jetole> ThinkT510 and Jordan_U: I also found the iso already: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
[21:44] <Jordan_U> jetole: Why on earth would you use an unsupported OS with years of missing security updates on a production system?
[21:44] <jetole> ThinkT510 or Jordan_U: ...or just http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[21:44] <sacarlson> grzesag: I don't know what the output of openload looks like so that's my best guess if the data seen on the screen changes but stays in the same place
[21:45] <ThinkT510> jetole: i recommend against using it
[21:45] <grzesag> sacarlson, please see this: http://pastebin.com/yEmBKqPG
[21:45] <jetole> Jordan_U: because! I don't really feel like explaining the details but you have no idea what the system does or doesn't do or where it's located and why it hasn't been upgraded so be nice
[21:45] <grzesag> scampbell, maybe will help
[21:45] <sacarlson> grzesag: that's static but do those numbers change like when you run top?
[21:45] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7? Using plymouthd --tty=/dev/tty0 just makes the process hang.
[21:45] <Brontolo> sera a tutti
[21:45] <jetole> ThinkT510: I'll keep that in mind if I ever want your opinion about something which you don't know the surrounding details
[21:46] <jetole> ThinkT510 and Jordan_U: Why can't asking questions be easy in here?
[21:46] <grzesag> scampbell, no there is line by line produced with numbers
[21:46] <ThinkT510> jetole: wow, whats with the attitude?
[21:46] <Brontolo> Si può chiedere aiuto anche per Xubuntu?
[21:46] <theadmin> !it | Brontolo
[21:46] <trevor69420> let's not help jetole now lol
[21:46] <grzesag> scampbell, output created like in ping
[21:47] <grzesag> sacarlson, similar to ping
[21:47] <jetole> ThinkT510 and Jordan_U: I just asked where do I get the ISO and instead I have both of you telling me I shouldn't be using it without knowing anything about why oh and trevor69420, first question I have asked in here in probably a month and I solved it myself so I should have known better then to have asked
[21:47] <ThinkT510> jetole: 9.04 will likely have security holes by now and you can't get support here, thats why we are asking
[21:47] <jetole> trevor69420: not that they helped me anyways
[21:47] <jetole> ThinkT510: I know
[21:47] <grzesag> sacarlson, whan I change openload into ping it saves just fine
[21:47] <jetole> ThinkT510: in fact it does have known security holes
[21:48] <nate_h> does anyone know how to show all the package versions available in a apt repo?
[21:48] <trevor69420> jetole, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[21:48] <ThinkT510> jetole: and you still want to put it on a production system?
[21:48] <grzesag> sacarlson, I habe been trying to sort it for the last 3 days
[21:48] <Jordan_U> jetole: This channel doesn't support unsupported versions of Ubuntu, period. If that is a problem then you may not want to use #ubuntu in the future.
[21:48] <jetole> trevor69420: yes. I posted that already. when I find an answer I feel it's important to share
[21:48] <trevor69420> ThinkT510, let him do what he wants
[21:48] <grzesag> sacarlson, any idea pleas help
[21:48] <jetole> Jordan_U: I didn't ask for support
[21:48] <sacarlson> grzesag: then maybe it's not a cursers problem? nope I'm out of ideas
[21:48] <trevor69420> jetole, so then you found the ISO then I assume?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> trevor69420: ThinkT510: jetole: This discussion isn't going anywhere productive, can we all please drop it?
[21:49] <jetole> trevor69420: yes
[21:49] <trevor69420> ok just trying to help
[21:49] <trevor69420> sorry
[21:49] <jetole> 16:44 < jetole> ThinkT510 and Jordan_U: I also found the iso already: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
[21:49] <jetole> 16:44 < jetole> ThinkT510 and Jordan_U: I also found the iso already: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
[21:49] <jetole> oops
[21:49] <FloodBot1> jetole: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <jetole> didn't mean to double post
[21:49] <trevor69420> thanks for makign that clear sorry for helping
[21:49] <grzesag> sacarlson, thank you for your time
[21:50] <jetole> trevor69420: I appreciate it. No need to appologize
[21:50] <trism> nate_h: if you already added the repo, then for a single package: apt-cache policy packagename; will show the available versions and what repos they come from
[21:50] <trevor69420> but unforunately if you need help with anything else related to 9.04 i wont be able to help you with that as we cant help support something at EOL (end of life)
[21:50] <jetole> ThinkT510 Jordan_U and trevor69420: going back to work. Sorry for bothering you guys.
[21:50] <nate_h> trism, thanks
[21:50] <nate_h> also found the apt-cache madison command
[21:52] <trevor69420> bleh mandatory meeting at 5:30 to 6:30 tonight so stupid
[21:52] <trevor69420> anyways back to ubuntu
[21:53] <greynilba> #ubuntu-br
[21:53] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7? Using plymouthd --tty=/dev/tty0 just makes the process hang.
[21:55] <lulzfed> The Assembly Programming Master Book (2004)
[21:55] <lulzfed> ^is that good?
[21:55]  * HalcyonQc is using a BlackBerry Runtime for Android Apps running Android 2.3.3 (2.0.0.56)
[21:55] <ThinkT510> lulzfed: it unrelated to ubuntu
[21:56] <lulzfed> is it good tough?
[21:56] <ThinkT510> lulzfed: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <lulzfed> is that an yes?
[21:57] <trevor69420> +b
[21:57] <ThinkT510> lulzfed: its a redirection to a more appropriate place to ask
[22:02] <nunzio> buonasera a tutti
[22:02] <tumppu> buonasera
[22:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> va fan culo
[22:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[22:03] <ThinkT510> !it
[22:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> !fuck
[22:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> !beer
[22:03]  * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to vector
[22:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> 22:03 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with ubottu
[22:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> 22:03 <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer
[22:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :_
[22:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :))
[22:04] <ThinkT510> Gorilla_No_Baka: stop that please
[22:04] <FloodBot1> Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i love the boot!\
[22:05] <Myrtti> Gorilla_No_Baka: please mind your language, let's keep it clean
[22:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> really?!!
[22:05] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Keep it polite, professional, and on topic.
[22:05] <theadmin> That's about all there is to it
[22:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> aham
[22:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> because we're on topic..! (why would we be.. there's not bloody use) can i ask who's the muppet who took out the udf support?!
[22:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> usf tools  are not complete.. i tried to compile it miself..  no chance.. now  i have to see if i can find the source somewhere...
[22:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> topic..
[22:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i have losts of topics..
[22:08] <Gorilla_No_Baka> lots
[22:08] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: What's UDF? If you mean the disk images, I don't think anything but ISO is really well supported on Linux, but there are converters around here and there
[22:09] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7? Using plymouthd --tty=/dev/tty0 just makes the process hang.
[22:09] <Oer> Gorilla_No_Baka, you can mount UDF disks, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658827
[22:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> theadmin:  you must be new
[22:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Oer:  you too
[22:10] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: "new"? I'm around here for a few years already.
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> how about format a hd ?
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> there's no more support for it
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> nice
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i think i will go fack to my freebsd
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[22:10] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Uh, it's still in disk utility, just like it was before. And in mkfs, too.
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> nope..
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  not working,,
[22:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  tryied for the last hour..
[22:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> udf tools are not complete from what i can see
[22:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> nevermind..
[22:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> this used to be a nice distro before they "machibtosh=apple-ed" it
[22:12] <Oer> Gorilla_No_Baka, stop the ranting, please.
[22:12] <vanadio> ciao
[22:12] <trevor69420> lol wow... Gorilla_No_Baka must be "new"
[22:12] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Don't like the desktop? Change to XFCE or whatever.
[22:12] <CFHowlett> !it|Vanadi
[22:13] <ThinkT510> Gorilla_No_Baka: nobody is forcing you to use ubuntu...
[22:13] <Gorilla_No_Baka> lol
[22:13] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  i am not.. this is not my machine.. thanks god!
[22:13] <trevor69420> alot of what he is saying is false as formatting disks is still in disk utility just like before according to what i'm seeing
[22:13]  * CFHowlett no, I want the developers to come to my computer and create a distro that does everything just the way I want straight out of the box, darnit!
[22:13] <Pici> Gorilla_No_Baka: I don't believe  that any Linux supports full UDF write support.
[22:14] <nullucas> I need pitivi 0.15, the latest stable version. But it's not available in the repos for my version, lucid lynx. Why? I don't know where to find it...
[22:14] <theadmin> nullucas: Search for a PPA.
[22:14] <kiama2005> Have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 The keyboard is not acting as expected.  Shift + 2  gives this " how can I change this ?
[22:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> trevor69420:  go ahead try to format something to udf and then tell me what i say is false
[22:14] <CFHowlett> nullucas   ??? see http://www.pitivi.org/?go=download
[22:14] <tumppu> kiama2005: maube changing keyboard layout would help
[22:14] <theadmin> kiama2005: That's normal behavour for many layouts actually. Paste this in a terminal and tell if it starts behaving normally: setxkbmap us
[22:14] <nullucas> theadmin, in the official ppa (and in another one too), it's not available for lucid lynx. Only for 11.04 ect...
[22:15] <theadmin> nullucas: Then maybe upgrade :$ Or build from source, if you know what you're doing
[22:15] <CFHowlett> nullucas   see the link.  It's right on the page ...
[22:16] <nullucas> CFHowlett, the ppa at that link gives me pitivi 0.14... not 0.15, which is the latest one
[22:16] <kiama2005> Where is the terminal in Ubuntu 11.10
[22:16] <theadmin> kiama2005: Hit Ctrl-Alt-T
[22:17] <CFHowlett> nullucas   look closer "I want to compile the development version" i.e. 0.15
[22:17] <theadmin> kiama2005: That's the easy way, the hard way is find it in the menu by searching "Terminal" :D
[22:17] <Oer> nullucas, see https://launchpad.net/~pitivi/+archive/stable but be carefull with PPA's.
[22:17] <kiama2005> Tks.
[22:17] <trevor69420> Gorilla_No_Baka, just to humor you i'm starting my vm right now and i'll do it
[22:19] <theadmin> Oer: That's one weird PPA - it only has ONE package, only for natty... lol
[22:20] <CFHowlett> theadmin   and no activity since 10/01/2011 ...
[22:20] <Oer> theadmin, i know, ubuntu is faster these days to provide the lastest packages.
[22:21] <theadmin> Oer: Well, they still have a very specific policy on it, but yeah
[22:22] <nullucas> as far as I know, 0.15 is not the development version, but it's the "new upstream stable release"
[22:22] <CFHowlett> nullucas   I see no evidence of that on the site ...
[22:22] <Oer> nullucas, 0.15 is available in Oneiric.
[22:22] <theadmin> Oer: (s)he's using Lucid
[22:22] <theadmin> Oer: Apparently has no wish to upgrade
[22:24] <CFHowlett> nullucas theadmin  wait, so "latest released" = "latest stable" then.  I <mis-spoke/> earlier.  Sorry for clouding the issue
[22:26] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get plymouth to send the messages to tty0, as opposed to tty7? Using plymouthd --mode=boot --tty=/dev/tty0 just makes the process hang.
[22:26] <nullucas> I thought "long term support" meant that you had a version of linux that had the best "support" for updates, bug fixes, etc. Apparently I was wrong. I guess LTS only means "don't touch anything and everything will run as good or as bas as it's always run"
[22:26] <CFHowlett> nullucas   I've got backports and every other repo enabled on 10.04.  0.13.4 is the installed candidate version of pitivi.  If you 0.15 NOW you must compile.
[22:26] <CFHowlett> nullucas   some packages can be picked up via backports, some don't.
[22:28] <nullucas> it's just that I was looking for some good video editor. Kdenlive and Openshot are among the best, but they eat WAY too much memory. Pitivi seems to run fast, but the old version (0.13) is so basic that you can't do anything (no effects whatsoever)
[22:28] <xangua> !latest | nullucas
[22:29] <CFHowlett> !sru>cfhowlett
[22:30] <nullucas> anyway, thanks... I'll see what I can do
[22:30] <theadmin> !msgthebot > CFHowlett
[22:30] <nullucas> the new LTS 12.04 is coming soon anyway...
[22:30] <CFHowlett> theadmin   got it
[22:30] <velko> !msgthebot> velko
[22:31] <theadmin> Anyhow, be right back from irssi, lol, my eyes are asking for a change
[22:32] <root_> hello
[22:32] <theadmin> Ah there.
[22:34] <skmsmslk> my sound system suddenly got  not working ?
[22:37] <lukebrannon> i'm trying to setup an ldap server on ubuntu 10.04 using the doc found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer and when I try to add the RTC DIT i'm getting the error: "Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80) additional info: <olcModuleLoad> handler exited with 1"   Is there a better doc on setting up LDAP on Lucid for the first time, and if I want to start from scratch do I just need to do a 'apt-get remo
[22:37] <lukebrannon> --purge slapd ldap-utils' and reinstall?
[22:45] <dommer> Hello again.  So I have my camera part of my webcam working now; the issue still is however that the mic does nothing.  This camera is fine and I feel buying a new one is pointless since this one works fine in windows.  However, I would use windows if it wasn't so ****y to me.  All it is good for to me now is a viking funeral.  Any suggestions?
[22:46] <dommer> Any assistance is well loved from.
[22:47] <dommer> Hello?
[22:48] <mooperd> hello. something went wrong with my mysql installation. To repair I deleted everything in /etc/mysql and did a apt-get --purge mysql-server
[22:48] <mooperd> I think I have broken everything more
[22:48] <rogst> dommer: so your webcam mic does not work is that correct ?
[22:49] <nathansuchy> hi everyone go to my website nathanlive.com
[22:49] <Ebron> Can I safely uninstall CUPS when I don't have a printer, and still be able to "print" documents to disk (i.e print as pdf)?
[22:49] <mooperd> Ebron: yes
[22:49] <Ebron> goodie :)
[22:49] <mooperd> although Ebron, why bother
[22:49] <mooperd> ?
[22:50] <dommer> It didn't
[22:50] <dommer> I found why
[22:50] <Ebron> mooperd: good point
[22:50] <dommer> rogst
[22:50] <rogst> dommer: okay
[22:50] <Ebron> mooperd: house cleaning.. tend to go beserk
[22:51] <Ebron> berserk*
[22:51] <mooperd> something went wrong with my mysql installation. To repair I deleted everything in /etc/mysql and did a apt-get --purge mysql-server. When I reinstall nothing appears in /etc/mysql
[22:52] <dommer> Ya know how in windows it sets sound devices off for no reason and you have to go in some stupid menu somewhere, uncheck, then attempt?  Yeah I found it after I put in the fresh brand new sound drivers yesterday.  THAT menu, allowing me to control mute on/off, wasn't there.  Got it ^3^ *durp*
[22:54] <mooperd> \join #debian
[22:57] <Guest66529> Hi guys, i'd like to ask for help... i have installed link monitor applet (http://www.nongnu.org/link-monitor/) via synaptic but i'm unable to add it to my bar... if i click right mouse button and choose "add to panel", the link monitor is not in offered list... anyone idea how to solve that, please?
[22:59] <CFHowlett> Guest66529   so this is essentially the gui equivalent of ping www.nongnu.org  ???
[23:00] <Guest66529> CFHowlett: yes, it should be smthng like a graphic ping constantly present in toolbar
[23:01] <Guest66529> http://www.nongnu.org/link-monitor/screenshot.png
[23:01] <Guest66529> my problem is that i am unable to add it to toolbar
[23:03] <Phrogz> I need ImageMagick (and ideally RMagick) working on my 10.04 server. Web resources have failed me. I will give someone $25 paypal if they can help me get ImageMagick working (such that 'convert' can resize JPGs and PNGs). I will give $50 if you help me get RMagick compiled and working on top of that.
[23:03] <Phrogz> Any takers?
[23:04] <Guest66529> phrogz: seems more like in/out festival here :)
[23:04] <Phrogz> Well, I can hope and wait. :)
[23:04] <nibbler__> Phrogz, that  should be easy...
[23:05] <nibbler__> Phrogz, apt-get install imagemagick
[23:05] <Phrogz> nibbler__: Then if you like cash, we're about to both be happier.
[23:05] <Phrogz> nibbler__: That results in convert not understanding JPG.
[23:05] <nibbler__> Phrogz, let me see
[23:06] <Phrogz> nibbler__: I'll start a pastie with output for you to review. Feel free to join #phrogz if you want to keep the noise here to a minimum.
[23:07] <miha1> Hi. I can not set up a video camera Genius. Please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/873750/ I use Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Thank you.
[23:08] <Avihay> how is the gui package installer for gnome is called, I mean the one that runs when you double-click a deb file in nautilus?
[23:08] <ComputeristGeek> I had weird errors with AHCI/IDE on an occasion......and a non-related error with about 1/10 of the screen being rotated (and when I say rotated I mean that the "Applications" starts away from the left end and the shutdown button appears at the beginning)
[23:08] <velko> Avihay, gdebi
[23:08] <Avihay> velko: thanks
[23:08] <ComputeristGeek> I solved the former through changing the BIOS settings from IDE to AHCI....the second through a new version installation (I had the 10.04 LTS but I just removed it and installed 11.04)
[23:09] <ComputeristGeek> Any explanatory inputs would be appreciated (though my simple guess for the second error is that the older version didn't have the intel vga driver)
[23:09] <stercor> I just in stalled a Buffalo wireless adapter.  It's on wlan0.  How do I shove some bytes through it to determine that it's working?
[23:09] <Phrogz> stercor: lynx? ping?
[23:10] <Phrogz> wget? curl?
[23:10] <stercor> Phrogz: Thanks...so simple, yet elusive.
[23:11] <miha1> Thanks to all.
[23:12] <stercor> Phrogz: ifconfig only shows HWaddr, no inet addr...
[23:12] <velko> miha1, will this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797715.html
[23:12] <Phrogz> stercor: Have you edited /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:12] <stercor> Phrogz: no.
[23:13] <Phrogz> stercor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#Adding_it_to_.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-network.2BAC8-interfaces
[23:14] <psyferre> Hey folks, would anyone have a quick moment for advice?  My putty session timed out while running a grub update, and like an idiot I decided to just give the machine a quick reboot to resolve the dpkg lock.  Now the system starts to boot but does not quite get to a prompt.  I assume I just need to get in and run dpkg --configure -a... is a live cd the best way to go about this?
[23:15] <velko> psyferre, yes. in a chroot
[23:16] <velko> psyferre, don't forget to mount-bind /dev/ and /proc before you enter the chroot. else grub won't see any hard disks
[23:17] <ciccio> salve
[23:17] <miha1> velko, on another distro without problems, it worked, but I did not want to. Thank you, nowunderstood.
[23:17] <Zaitzev> bah, I can't get Quicktime-videos to play in Google Chrome, anyone here that can help me out a little?
[23:18] <psyferre> velko: thanks, I appreciate it!  I was having trouble googling the right terms to find the info I needed.
[23:22] <Dogears> Hi!
[23:26] <KI7MT_> .
[23:27] <Eustaquio> Hi, anyone is having problems with linking "shm_open" etc in gcc? (using -lrt) option
[23:28] <hello-world> thank you
[23:28] <skmsmslk> is there any way to install asus chipset , audio driver ?
[23:29] <hello-world> my to i have problem with hadphone in acer is don't run
[23:30] <skmsmslk> my suddnely got not working too
[23:31] <trism> Eustaquio: make sure to specify -lrt after the object files that contain the reference to shm_open
[23:31] <Eustaquio> trism can I paste you the make result?
[23:31] <trism> Eustaquio: sure
[23:32] <Eustaquio> http://pastebin.com/VFua2K3g
[23:32] <Eustaquio> this is
[23:33] <trism> Eustaquio: yes: gcc -pthread -lrt -o exec/manager obj/manager.o obj/semaforoI.o obj/memoriaI.o should be: gcc -pthread -o exec/manager obj/manager.o obj/semaforoI.o obj/memoriaI.o -lrt
[23:34] <Eustaquio> how could I change it? I've been given a makefile and I dont know too much about them
[23:34] <shade34321> what does this mean,
[23:34] <shade34321> ".ssh/known_hosts" E667: Fsync failed
[23:36] <trism> Eustaquio: you need to edit the makefiles, but how you go about this depends on the project, if it uses autotools or is just a straight makefile or something else
[23:37] <velko> shade34321, what are you doing in order to receive this message?
[23:37] <Eustaquio> It's just a small code about learning, I'll paste it
[23:37] <shade34321> velko, editing my known_hosts file
[23:37] <Eustaquio> http://pastebin.com/NcQjam6r this is the makefile
[23:38] <hinoue> join #volatility
[23:39] <stercor> Phrogz: the device maps as wlan0.  The flags are: UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1.  Can the PROMISC mean that it's just sitting around waiting?
[23:39] <trism> Eustaquio: ahh, easy enough, remove -lrt from LDFLAGS and add a new line below it: LDADD := -lrt, then append $(LDADD) to the end of every line that has $(LDFLAGS)
[23:39] <soh> when I login in tty i get "-bash: xxxx: command not fount" I must have accidently pasted something somewhere, any ideas?
[23:40] <GASSYPOOTS> hi
[23:40] <GASSYPOOTS> im finaly running ubuntu and i LOVE it
[23:41] <GASSYPOOTS> i rarely say that to any other linux interface but this one rocks
[23:41] <nunod> :)
[23:41] <bastidrazor> soh: look in ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[23:41] <Eustaquio> trism dude, I just love you!
[23:42] <velko_> shade34321, i found this link. maybe you don't have enough space on the disk or the disk is bad? http://vim.1045645.n5.nabble.com/Fsync-failed-td1174972.html
[23:42] <Eustaquio> thank you very much!
[23:42] <trism> Eustaquio: no problem
[23:42] <GASSYPOOTS> i couldnt do wubi normally but i made my own liveusb and its working just fine!!!
[23:42] <stercor> GASSYPOOTS: Which distro?
[23:43] <GASSYPOOTS> ?
[23:43] <GASSYPOOTS> oh 11.10
[23:43] <shade34321> velko, shouldn't be a space issue, the home nfs mount is at 92% full, also I'm deleting lines from it so I'm actually making it smaller...but I'll double check it just in case
[23:43] <stercor> Ubuntu, LinuxMint, LUbuntu, EdUbuntu, ...
[23:43] <velko_> shade34321, you may have a disk quota problem also
[23:43] <GASSYPOOTS> a 8 gb usb will do GREAT
[23:43] <stercor> RedHat, Fedora, CentOS, ...
[23:43] <shade34321> velko_, that seems likely actualyl
[23:43] <soh> bastidrazor: nothing there, I dont habe .profile
[23:44] <shade34321> I'm not sure what the quota is nor how much space I'm using
[23:44] <shade34321> lol
[23:44] <GASSYPOOTS> uhh check your disk???
[23:45] <bastidrazor> soh: what command are you trying to run
[23:45] <soh> bastidrazor: nothing I get that right after login, theres some xft settings loaded up
[23:46] <shade34321> hmm...12GB download folder may be the problem..rofl
[23:47] <Real> suuup
[23:51] <soh> bastidrazor: btw, im using arch, but I think I was kicked from #archlinux, anyways, should be same file in ubuntu, i guess
[23:53] <velko_> soh, i missed the description of your problem because i was disconnected
[23:53] <brianp1992> can anyone help me on here?
[23:53] <velko_> brianp1992, the only way to find out is for you to ask ;)
[23:54] <brianp1992> okay :) well its with the software center and synaptic, ill copy past the error msg
[23:54] <dommer> Can someone please remind me of where I find the option for setting graphics to low, normal, and fancy?
[23:54] <soh> velko_: right after login in tty, before I "startx" I get "-bash: xxxx :command not found" there are some xft font settings loaded up that I must have accidently pasted something somewhere, I want to remove these lines :)
[23:56] <velko_> soh, have you checked your ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile files for the xxxx string?
[23:56] <brianp1992> i get this any time i install/remove any thing in the software center or synaptic,,,
[23:56] <brianp1992> The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future.
[23:56] <brianp1992> dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-common (--configure):
[23:56] <brianp1992>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:56] <brianp1992> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:56] <brianp1992>  nvidia-kernel-common
[23:56] <FloodBot1> brianp1992: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <shade34321> brianp1992, use pastebin:)
[23:57] <soh> velko_: yes, I dont have .profile
[23:57] <brianp1992> how? lol
[23:57] <soh> velko_: and theres nothing in .bashrc
[23:58] <shade34321> go to pastebin.com
[23:58] <root_> join/
[23:58] <shade34321> copy and paste your file in there and it'll give you a link to it you can paste in here
[23:58] <root_> hello
[23:58] <shade34321> if you're using ubuntu you install something that will do it for you
[23:58] <shade34321> (a command)
[23:58] <velko_> soh, silly question - is it possible that you put the whole string that you see as a message of the day? unlikely but still worth to check
[23:58] <brianp1992> whats the cmd to install it?
[23:59] <zykotick9> velko_: supporting arch is offtopic in #ubuntu, if you want to help soh perhaps you two should move to PM
[23:59] <shade34321> brianp1992, one sec and Ill find it
[23:59] <velko_> zykotick9, what? you mean that this problem cannot occur in ubuntu?