| lighta | hey guys, what the best app to do gantt in linux ? | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | !best | 00:09 |
| ubottu | Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. | 00:09 |
| GridCube | lighta, i like openproject | 00:10 |
| GridCube | its java based tho, but it does its work | 00:11 |
| lighta | I don't really best knome just some few advice, ok GridCube I'll try, I tryed gantproject, but look it miss few option | 00:11 |
| lighta | or I didn't found them yet | 00:12 |
| knome | lighta, well, the question clearly was "what is the best...". sorry about the factoid tone though, i'm trying to make it a bit more friendly... | 00:12 |
| lighta | can he export/import ms project as well ? | 00:12 |
| GridCube | lighta, no, i don't think it can | 00:13 |
| GridCube | lighta, http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/ | 00:13 |
| lighta | (already downloading it hehe) | 00:13 |
| GridCube | oops, it says it does on their page | 00:13 |
| GridCube | so apparently it does | 00:13 |
| lighta | wow produce wbs and such awesoem | 00:18 |
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| GridCube | lighta, :) | 00:27 |
| neil__ | anyone else have the problem in 11.10 where thunar's first launch takes several seconds? | 00:30 |
| knome | neil__, unfortunately, that's how it is | 00:31 |
| neil__ | knome: I can't find a ppa for it, but the latest version of thunar fixed this bug | 00:32 |
| neil__ | hmm, my arch install has the same version but without the bug | 00:33 |
| knome | it's most probably going to be fixed in 12.04, if that's possible :) | 00:33 |
| neil__ | Hopefully, wouldn't want a long term that takes 20 sec to open thunar, do you know the source of the problem | 00:34 |
| knome | nope | 00:36 |
| knome | well, 20 secs is exaggerated | 00:36 |
| neil__ | Not on an old Pentium IV era computer | 00:37 |
| knome | probably not, but then again, other things take longer too | 00:37 |
| neil__ | however, xfce targets these older computers (older the P4) | 00:38 |
| knome | neil__, mmmh, well, that's interpretation. it's lightweight, but nobody promises it works on ancient toasters. | 00:39 |
| knome | neil__, also, you have to remember xubuntu !== xfce | 00:39 |
| knome | neil__, you most probably will get better results with xfce on top of some lighter base OS | 00:39 |
| knome | neil__, better as in faster | 00:39 |
| neil__ | true | 00:40 |
| knome | so it's all really relative. i'm hoping to get the issue fixed whatsoever. :) | 00:40 |
| neil__ | however Xubuntu is easy for my mom when at school, it would be quite a sight to see her on arch | 00:40 |
| GridCube | neil__, there is a pretty effective workaround | 00:43 |
| GridCube | neil__, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/775117 | 00:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 775117 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar hangs on first launch of each session" [Low,Triaged] | 00:43 |
| GridCube | see post 13 | 00:43 |
| GridCube | knome, 20 seconds seems pretty accurate | 00:44 |
| neil__ | ubottu: that error no longer is accurate as the launch error is no longer displayed | 00:50 |
| lighta | hey Grid sorry to bother but just quick question, how can I represent activities ? (I mean an activity is a set of task) | 00:51 |
| neil__ | Gridcode: that works! thanks | 00:55 |
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| GridCube | people, use autocomplete with tab :/ | 01:01 |
| knome | GridCube, heh :) | 01:02 |
| knome | GrabCook: actually, what did you say? | 01:02 |
| GridCube | lighta, when editing a new taks you can add more task into it, cant remember how, been a while since i last use it | 01:02 |
| GridCube | gnome, nothing | 01:02 |
| GridCube | oooooo wait its k | 01:02 |
| lighta | hmm ok looking desperatly for that atm | 01:03 |
| GridCube | i remember it was pretty easy | 01:03 |
| knome | CrapGuy2: okay | 01:03 |
| knome | wait, i mistyped... | 01:03 |
| GridCube | XD | 01:03 |
| lighta | oh yeah found something ! | 01:03 |
| GridCube | oh mister knone, youre fun | 01:04 |
| knome | GirlCool: you too!! a/s/l? | 01:04 |
| knome | i think we need to stop... :) | 01:05 |
| * knome goes to bed | 01:05 | |
| knome | have a nice day/night! | 01:05 |
| GridCube | lighta, use indentation | 01:06 |
| GridCube | if you indentate a task it will become part of the upper task | 01:06 |
| GridCube | lighta, also you can drag and drop on tho follow the other | 01:07 |
| lighta | ye I found that GridCube, still I don't found it handy hehe ! | 01:09 |
| lighta | ok from wbs yes way more easier | 01:11 |
| GridCube | lighta, i guess it needs to get use to it, i just used it for a university project and our teacher recommended it, so i just used it once :P for like 5 hours | 01:12 |
| lighta | haha that exactly what i'm using it for but he didn't recomand any, I just wanted to try other stuff then ms-proj | 01:13 |
| lighta | I'll probably take more than 5h to integrate all my wbs rbs and such still xd | 01:14 |
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| uofm49426 | question my video card is opengl 4.1 but nvidia driver in xubuntu tells me 1.4 | 03:31 |
| uofm49426 | is it just not implaymted yet | 03:32 |
| uofm49426 | is it just not implemented yet | 03:33 |
| uofm49426 | sorry | 03:33 |
| uofm49426 | what is the xubuntu 11.10 verson of sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 03:51 |
| Unit193 | sudo service lightdm stop | 03:54 |
| * milan says Hello | 15:08 | |
| milan | help? | 15:08 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | milan, whats the question | 15:09 |
| milan | I dont have sound in some games, new to linux so... (11.10) | 15:10 |
| milan | I think I may have turned off sound card using terminal once | 15:11 |
| G__81 | i have few problems with my xubuntu | 15:11 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | milan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870596 try this | 15:12 |
| TheSheep | G__81: tell us about your problems | 15:12 |
| hobgoblin | G__81: what are the few problems then | 15:12 |
| G__81 | i installed xubuntu desktop and then i wanted to try kubuntu so installed kubuntu and then didnt like it,removed it using a command which i pasted from a website. That command invariably had sudp apt-get install ubuntu which i didnt want and it got executed and it had unity. | 15:12 |
| G__81 | I uninstalled ubuntu by doing sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop and everything got removed. Now i see in the lightGDM one option called Ubuntu2D. How do i remove those packages ? | 15:13 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | G__81, www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce | 15:13 |
| hobgoblin | G__81: I'd do that ^^ first | 15:13 |
| hobgoblin | but if 2d is still there - remove the packages with synaptic | 15:14 |
| hobgoblin | and removing ubuntu-desktop will not remove any of the packages installing ubuntu-desktop brings | 15:15 |
| G__81 | how do i remove ubuntu2d now | 15:15 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | G__81, follow the instructions on that link | 15:15 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | then if that doesnt help ask again hre | 15:16 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | here | 15:16 |
| G__81 | this is what i get | 15:18 |
| G__81 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/873110/ | 15:18 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | G__81, what command did you use for that | 15:20 |
| G__81 | WhereIsMySpoon, i copied and pasted what was given there | 15:25 |
| G__81 | i just want to remove that Ubuntu2D thats it | 15:26 |
| G__81 | nothing much | 15:26 |
| G__81 | ? | 15:33 |
| G__81 | how do i remove Ubuntu2d ? whats the package to remove Ubuntu2D | 15:33 |
| bazhang | unity-2d? | 15:33 |
| ThePendulum | Where's that Why do you want to remove it? | 15:33 |
| ThePendulum | Without the "Where's that", that is | 15:34 |
| G__81 | bazhang, yes | 15:34 |
| bazhang | !find unity-2d | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Found: libunity-2d-private-dev, libunity-2d-private0, unity-2d, unity-2d-launcher, unity-2d-panel | 15:34 |
| bazhang | G__81, so remove them | 15:34 |
| G__81 | bazhang, oh thanks a lot. removed them let me try whether its seen in the LightGDM | 15:37 |
| G__81 | Unity2d is removed i see Ubuntu as an option | 15:39 |
| G__81 | so to remove Unity is apt-get remove Unity is enough ? | 15:39 |
| bazhang | no | 15:40 |
| bazhang | G__81, why do you need to remove it | 15:40 |
| G__81 | i nstalled xubuntu and i just want that and LXDE, thats it nothing much | 15:42 |
| G__81 | I dont want the Unity stuff, which is just taking space | 15:42 |
| bazhang | !purexfce | 15:42 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 15:42 |
| bazhang | G__81, see link above then | 15:43 |
| hans_w | hello | 15:52 |
| hans_w | im on 256 mb ram | 15:52 |
| hans_w | is it enough for xubuntu? | 15:52 |
| knome | well, you might be able to run, but don't expect it to be fast | 15:53 |
| hans_w | =[ | 15:53 |
| ThePendulum | Why are you on 256mb ram? | 15:53 |
| ThePendulum | It is enough, but indeed quite low | 15:53 |
| hans_w | how can i see how much ram i have btw? | 15:53 |
| hans_w | oh i have 433 mb | 15:55 |
| ThePendulum | command line: free -m | 15:55 |
| hans_w | it says | 15:55 |
| ThePendulum | You have 512mb | 15:55 |
| hans_w | is 433 mb ram enough | 15:55 |
| ThePendulum | Yeah, it'll run | 15:55 |
| hans_w | ThePendulum: how did you know? | 15:55 |
| ThePendulum | hans_w: Because you can't get 433MB of ram, lol | 15:55 |
| knome | ThePendulum, no, actually you can. | 15:55 |
| ThePendulum | Eh, explain? | 15:56 |
| hans_w | uhm so maybe i have 256 mb with 256 mb swap on the hdd? | 15:56 |
| ThePendulum | RAM works with powers of 2 | 15:56 |
| hans_w | it says 433 mb here hardware | 15:56 |
| ThePendulum | 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 | 15:56 |
| knome | ThePendulum, well, not exactly that, but shared stuff or course. | 15:56 |
| knome | ThePendulum, yes, but you can have between 256 and 512. | 15:56 |
| ThePendulum | Yeah, using 256MB and 128MB | 15:57 |
| ThePendulum | But that still won't get you 433MB :| | 15:57 |
| knome | no. but it might be a weird assembly. that's how many pc's were in the old days | 15:57 |
| ThePendulum | My RAM is 7997MB, says Ubuntu | 15:57 |
| ThePendulum | It's basically 8192MB | 15:58 |
| ThePendulum | Also, 'free -m' tells actual RAM and SWAP apart | 15:58 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | so is is prolly 484 | 15:58 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | *his | 15:58 |
| ThePendulum | "grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo" gets you an even better result | 15:58 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | 3996504 for me | 15:59 |
| ThePendulum | 4GB | 15:59 |
| knome | hans_w, anyway, with 433, it's going to be a tad faster. don't expect a rocket though :) | 15:59 |
| ThePendulum | hans_w: Why won't you upgrade it? | 16:00 |
| hans_w | itś not my laptop i borrowed it | 16:00 |
| ThePendulum | 2001 IBM? | 16:00 |
| hans_w | it has an amd sempron 2800+ | 16:00 |
| knome | ThePendulum, let's rather concentrate on how to go with that, not how to fix the metaissue :) | 16:00 |
| hans_w | nah not that old | 16:00 |
| ThePendulum | Well, at least 2007 or older | 16:01 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | :p | 16:01 |
| ThePendulum | Anyway | 16:01 |
| hans_w | im running xubuntu now it runs decent | 16:01 |
| ThePendulum | Yes, Xubuntu will run, perhaps with a few hicks and clicks | 16:01 |
| hans_w | but a tad slow | 16:01 |
| ThePendulum | ^ | 16:01 |
| knome | should be fine with one app at a time | 16:01 |
| knome | and maybe consider some other browser than firefox | 16:01 |
| hans_w | lol ye | 16:01 |
| hans_w | like chrome? | 16:01 |
| ThePendulum | Install IE, will work | 16:02 |
| hans_w | IE?? | 16:02 |
| knome | or epiphany | 16:02 |
| knome | or midori | 16:02 |
| hans_w | so chrome is not good enough? | 16:02 |
| ThePendulum | Chrome is quite memory-intensive if you have only 512mb available | 16:03 |
| knome | hans_w, you'd have to check and see if it's reasonable for you | 16:03 |
| hans_w | ok ty | 16:04 |
| ThePendulum | Why does Xfce require ', Hidden=True' to 'remove' a menu item, rather than just removing it? | 16:05 |
| hans_w | i need this laptop for browsing, reading pdfś and doing some wordprocessing, can i run those apps for those purposes simultaneously/? | 16:05 |
| ThePendulum | And when I hide them, why do they show up between my other menu list? -_- | 16:06 |
| knome | hans_w, won't be very fast i suppose | 16:06 |
| hans_w | oh ok | 16:06 |
| ThePendulum | hans_w: A lot of modern websites will have a bit of an issue, and PDFs will take a while to load. With 512mb, you may experience the classic "waiting, waiting, waiting... HOP there's my line" while wordprocssing | 16:06 |
| ThePendulum | *processing | 16:06 |
| hans_w | knome: so would a dell mini laptop be sufficient for that? | 16:07 |
| hans_w | the atom 1,6 with 1 gb ddr ram | 16:07 |
| hans_w | i was thinking about getting one for the library | 16:07 |
| ThePendulum | That would certainly be an improvement | 16:07 |
| hans_w | or should i just get a laptop? | 16:08 |
| hans_w | for those purposes | 16:08 |
| ThePendulum | The hardware you're discussing here is all rather old | 16:08 |
| hans_w | yep | 16:08 |
| hans_w | it is | 16:08 |
| ThePendulum | It will certainly work, but you just need a lot of patience | 16:08 |
| ThePendulum | We can't decide for you | 16:08 |
| hans_w | ye i know and maybe i dont have that kind of patience | 16:08 |
| ThePendulum | Then you should get yourself a new laptop | 16:08 |
| knome | hans_w, i have a eeepc 4G with 512 MB ram and intel celeron M353, and it's fine for one app per time, but for multitasking, it's slow | 16:10 |
| hans_w | ye | 16:10 |
| knome | 1GB ram is way better already, that might work out :) | 16:10 |
| knome | or probably will do just fine | 16:11 |
| knome | more is always more... | 16:11 |
| ThePendulum | You'll notice improvements up to about 4GB, depending on what you're doing with it | 16:11 |
| knome | ThePendulum, s/4GB/infinite/ | 16:14 |
| ThePendulum | hm? | 16:14 |
| knome | ThePendulum, i mean, run something in vbox with 4GB assigned ram, and you're at 0GB with 4GB :) | 16:14 |
| knome | then if you have 8GB, run two things in vbox with 4GB assigned ram and you're again at 0GB | 16:15 |
| knome | ;) | 16:15 |
| ThePendulum | I don't usually run 2 things simultaneously in vbox, lol | 16:15 |
| knome | i sometimes do | 16:16 |
| ThePendulum | I only use virtual machines for OS experimentations and tuts | 16:16 |
| knome | i've 8GB ram, and i use win in vbox with 4GB (for work), and then i sometimes need to run a linux os in another vbox | 16:16 |
| hans_w | going to try out midori thanks for the help and advise | 16:16 |
| knome | hans_w, no problem. good luck | 16:17 |
| knome | hmpf. | 16:17 |
| ThePendulum | I am running 4GB as well, and I run Windows 8 in a vbox, but if I need Linux I just switch back to Ubuntu? :P | 16:17 |
| ThePendulum | Or just assign less than 4GB to the vbox | 16:18 |
| hans_w | ok back | 16:18 |
| hans_w | seems to be lighter yes | 16:19 |
| hans_w | thanks | 16:19 |
| knome | ThePendulum, i personally can't assign less. i need to work with large files in photoshop in vbox, so anything under 4GB is too little :) | 16:19 |
| knome | hans_w, np. good luck & enjoy :) | 16:19 |
| hans_w | abiword is light right? | 16:20 |
| knome | hans_w, lighter than libreoffice writer, yes | 16:21 |
| hans_w | the dell inspiron duo looks interesting | 16:23 |
| hans_w | itś a tablet/laptop rolled into one interesting formfactor | 16:24 |
| hans_w | midori is a netscape fork? | 16:24 |
| knome | hans_w, afaik no, but it uses webkit | 16:25 |
| hans_w | i see it has netscape plugins in the panel | 16:26 |
| hans_w | so it might me wonder | 16:26 |
| hans_w | made* | 16:26 |
| hans_w | midori + abiword 152 mb of ram used | 16:28 |
| hans_w | firefox was slowing me down earlier what a leaking beast of memory that browser has become | 16:28 |
| knome | hans_w, but that's just launched, not any work done? | 16:28 |
| hans_w | lol | 16:28 |
| hans_w | ye | 16:28 |
| hans_w | 1 tab and no work done | 16:28 |
| knome | well, firefox beats midori featurewise any day | 16:28 |
| hans_w | :) | 16:28 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | ye firefox is a horrible memory leak | 16:30 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | :p | 16:30 |
| hans_w | =p | 16:31 |
| hans_w | it is when you dont have memory to spare | 16:31 |
| hans_w | on my mac i have like 8 gb of ram so there itś no issue | 16:31 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | hehe yea | 16:31 |
| === zooko` is now known as zooko | ||
| Shown | hi | 18:08 |
| Shown | i've downloaded the desktop cd | 18:08 |
| Shown | the laptop cd drive isn't working, i read i can install it from usb, how? | 18:09 |
| bazhang | using unetbootin | 18:09 |
| bazhang | !unetbootin | 18:09 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 18:09 |
| Shown | thanks | 18:10 |
| MeXTuX | I found a script to add thumbnail support to chm files http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159569 Is there something like that for XFCE??? | 18:30 |
| hans_w | hello again | 21:36 |
| hans_w | so may i ask something? | 21:37 |
| hans_w | how come xp runs faster on my old hardware than xubuntu? | 21:37 |
| no-name- | how can I get the volume control (and everything to the right of it) to live on the right-hand side of the panel, and still be able to add launchers to the direct right of the applications menu? http://postimage.org/image/pmeztvmtj/ | 22:20 |
| recon_lap | no-name-: add a separator to the tool bar, then position it | 22:30 |
| no-name- | recon_lap: thanks :) | 22:32 |
| ThePendulum | Does Xubuntu really need 4GB of SWAP space? | 23:06 |
| lighta | depend ThePendulum, need is abstract I'd say, I tryed to compare 2 huge bin, I was glad to have such a big swap cause my ram was satured long ago | 23:21 |
| ThePendulum | Allright, thanks | 23:27 |
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