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number_one_1hi04:25
number_one_1im new 2 linux, curious how i install java04:26
Unit193Browser plugin is icedtea-plugin, and java is openjdk04:40
Unit193!java04:40
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.04:40
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|johnny|Hey guys. I never had trouble with this before when I had an ATI card. But I'm having a series of issues now that I went with NVIDIA although the video quality is much nicer.07:29
|johnny|lxpanel volume applet won't show up even if I add it. The volume however can be controlled through pavucontrol. Its just weird how the applet won't display at all no matter how many times I add it.07:33
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leszekhi10:01
freiformhi11:44
pAt_hello freiform11:57
|johnny|Can someone help me change the font of the bottom of the windows? http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/1331214101window.png13:42
|johnny|I'm trying to change everything from 10 px to 16 px. I have done it so far except for there and in lxdm13:43
danstoner|johnny|: Did you get your mising Volume applet issue fixed?13:43
|johnny|danstoner, nope :(13:44
danstonerAny panel issues I have had so far were resolved by restarted lxpanel.13:44
|johnny|It may be because I had to recompile lxpanel and reinstall it because the fonts were 10px and I had to move them up to 16px. I have had to do this with basically everything because I have a large screen.13:46
|johnny|lxde defaults are set to smaller screens13:46
|johnny|Some things can be set through openbox but other things are static and have to be changed manually unfortunately13:47
|johnny|Also yeah rebooting didn't seem to help. This would restart lxpanel I would think.13:48
danstonerThere is also a lxde channel on freenode.  Since you are recompiling things you might have more luck there.13:48
|johnny|oh13:49
danstonerHow big is your screen, BTW?13:49
danstonerAll of the default fonts are quite nice for me on 1920x1080 screens.13:50
|johnny|32 inch13:50
danstonerah.  nice.  :)13:50
|johnny|But with the NVIDIA card the fonts seem to stick at 10 px and won't scale up automatically.13:51
|johnny|The ATI card however wouldn't use the entire screen and there would be a black square around it.13:52
danstonerThe nvidia software has some font prettying stuff, I wonder if it is getting in the way.13:52
|johnny|hmm not sure. I checked out the NVIDIA software and there was nothing that could set the fonts the way I like. You can set some through obconf but not all. Much has to be set manually. I tried before to set lxdm fonts manually by recompiling and it led to a full on reinstall of lubuntu due to it screwing up everything. So I haven't been able to remedy that problem. Just the lxpanel problem.13:54
danstonerYour screenshot was of PCManFM, correct?13:55
|johnny|yup13:55
danstonerIs it happening with other apps too?13:55
danstonerSeems like most fonts should be configurable via the theme.13:55
danstonerOtherwise, they might be hard-set in each application.13:55
|johnny|No because all other apps I edited the conf files to Ubuntu 16 instead of Ubuntu 10.13:56
|johnny|It was loads of manual editing13:56
|johnny|Leafpad, LXTerminal, I had to do it app by app13:56
danstonerBummer.13:56
|johnny|Yeah :( Firefox was the only app which displayed the correct font size13:56
|johnny|There is one thing I could pinpoint the problem with the volume control app though13:57
valdur55|johnny|, fill bug report!13:57
valdur55about this fonts problem13:58
|johnny|It may not be installed along with some other apps. Reason I suspect this is because the battery monitor app can't be added to the panel either13:58
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|johnny|valdur55, unfortunately, I can't file one with Ubuntu itself because the last time I did, they said bugs can only be filed for Ubuntu with the Unity distro.13:59
|johnny|So if its a bug with lxde I'll probably have to do that somewhere else13:59
valdur55but have you tried lubuntu project ?14:00
|johnny|valdur55, I'm using it as we speak. Very happy with it. :) Everything actually worked great with the ATI card I had.14:00
valdur55oh... report bug against lubuntu14:01
|johnny|It was when I switched video cards that I started having lots of issues. Even though the resolution and look is superior to the old ATI card.14:01
valdur55|johnny|, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs14:01
danstoneror https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop14:04
|johnny|I can do that yeah14:05
|johnny|http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/13312154422012-03-08-090228_1920x1080_scrot.png BTW just to show you guys the applet problem14:05
|johnny|Marty Jack who is on the lxde team is aware of the problem. He said nothing could be done about it yet. I just read a thread about it here: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=142314:10
|johnny|"I have decided to go with the independent font size control. It does add an additional option, but I think it gives everyone a way to be happy. The default will be 10 pt. Thank you all for your opinions.14:10
|johnny|I have this working, but I cannot promise when it will come out. Because we have lots of language translations, we have to batch up new features that add strings to the user interface."14:10
danstoner|johnny|: Try moving the volume control "up" and see if it appears.14:10
|johnny|danstoner, I tried that and it still doesn't show up14:11
danstonermove it above the clock14:11
danstonerI had an issue where I didn' think the notification areas were appearing, but it was just the width of the panel was too wide for the screen.  You could try changing the panel width from "100 %" to something smaller in pixels.14:12
danstonerand I haven't figured out what "Dynamic" means, but I had much better luck hard-setting panel width in Pixels.14:13
|johnny|http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3454 still no good.14:13
|johnny|It just seems so odd because with the ATI card the minute I installed pulseaudio it appeared right away.14:14
|johnny|oooh14:17
|johnny|http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3149614:17
|johnny|I understand now14:17
danstoner|johnny|: cool!14:20
|johnny|0.58 by default is missing the volume control plugin14:20
|johnny|It is considered "optional"14:21
|johnny|So I think thats the issue right there14:21
|johnny|Earlier lxpanel versions have it enabled by default. When I compiled the new version, this is what it did. I think....14:21
|johnny|I'm not exactly certain though how to fix the problem but I'm looking at this right now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.5.8+git20120212-0ubuntu114:23
|johnny|hmm apparently that wasn't the problem. It shows that the Net status icon plugin is also optional and that one works.14:28
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|johnny|/etc/asound.conf is blank. Could this have something to do with it?14:30
|johnny|Also alsamixer looks screwy in and of itself. I believe alsamixer is likely attached to volume control in some way.14:32
|johnny|http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=345514:34
|johnny|Ok yes as I figured. The problem is much larger than just the lxde volume control app. This is an ALSA issue. GNOME Alsa Mixer does not load.14:43
|johnny|yeah I think this is not good. amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',015:43
icerootcan someone on lubuntu 12.04 with wine installed please right click on a *.jpg and choose the open-with menu. do you also have wine listed twice there?16:30
icerootthe next question is of course why is wine in that list16:31
filo1234hi all17:07
filo1234I have a little issue "maybe" I'm not sure if it's a xdg-open version related...using Ubuntu 10.04 here, so when I type xdg-open on terminal I aspecting that pcmanfm opens, like on other version of lubuntu/gnome, this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/874834/ btw when I use xdg-open /path/somefile it runs17:13
valdur55filo1234, bash -x xdg-open17:14
valdur55then you get some more debug info17:14
filo1234http://paste.ubuntu.com/874838/17:15
valdur55ohcibi, and your /home .... item17:16
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valdur55ohcibi, sorry17:17
valdur55filo1234, and your /home .... item17:17
filo1234valdur55: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874844/17:18
valdur55ok . and then use same command with gnome, kde ... session17:21
valdur55then you see what causes this bug :)17:21
filo1234valdur55: ok wait I have to start vbox :P17:22
valdur55filo1234, but, why you should do that?17:23
filo1234valdur55: beacause I have a portable script that opens window-manager for choose files....17:23
filo1234because*17:24
valdur55xdg-open is bash script17:24
filo1234valdur55: that script open public folder on dropbox and create public url17:24
filo1234valdur55: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874876/    http://paste.ubuntu.com/874872/17:44
filo1234it works on xfce and gnome too and on another lubuntu ( 12.04 )17:44
filo1234valdur55: I see DE=generic on that pastes instead DE=xfce or DE=gnome17:49
filo1234could it be the prblem?17:49
valdur55and there is x$DE == "xLDE" line17:50
filo1234:O17:50
valdur55on 12.0417:50
filo1234I don't know it, I have 12.04 at work17:51
filo1234valdur55: so here, my session start with startlxde instead startlubuntu17:52
filo1234is this the issue?17:52
valdur55yea, you use lxde default settings instead of lubutnu default settings17:53
filo1234valdur55: pffffff ok i'll check for fix it17:53
valdur55startlxde and startlubuntu are again bash scripts17:53
filo1234yeah17:54
valdur55you  can see diff :)17:54
filo1234but I don't know why....this is a default installation17:54
filo1234ok i'll check thanks17:54
filo1234bye18:01
highvoltagehi!18:35
highvoltageany Lubuntu developers around?18:35
highvoltageI put together a LDM (LTSP Login Manager) theme for Lubuntu (since it had none)18:36
highvoltagebut I need an ack from a Lubuntu developer before I can upload it:18:36
highvoltagehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/83838218:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 838382 in software-center (Ubuntu) "UI Freeze exception: Theming fixes for Software Center" [Undecided,Fix released]18:36
filo1234valdur55: not solved, maybe lubuntu-desktop package on 10.04 have some difference18:41
filo1234valdur55: so I changed my script for this machine.....workaround solution :p18:41
valdur55:) and please comment you workaround...18:42
filo1234valdur55: simply changed xdg-open with /usr/bin/pcmanfm18:43
valdur55ok.18:43
filo1234stupid workaround18:44
filo1234:D18:44
valdur55if ^/ and /$ then use pcmanfm18:45
filo1234valdur55: another workaround..... alias xdg-open='pcmanfm' on ~/.bashrc19:02
filo1234:p19:03
milen8204hello how can I make right click on the descktop to show normal options19:07
valdur55normaL?19:08
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Right-clicking_on_desktop_pulls_up_a_menu_that_is_missing_the_.22Desktop_Preferences.22_option_and_now_I_can.27t_change_my_wallpaper19:08
filo1234valdur55: found a clean solution!!19:09
filo1234valdur55: change open_generic() function on /usr/bin/xdg-open19:09
valdur55yea it's buggy function19:10
filo1234do you want see changes?19:10
milen8204valdur55: normal means new folder , copy paste so on ..19:11
valdur55milen8204, look Unit193 link and bookmark FAQ page19:11
milen8204ok thanks19:11
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valdur55I have one idea....  lubuntu should put FAQ page to chrome bookmarks19:13
valdur55filo1234, yea...  it will be nice19:13
milen8204valdur55: doenst work19:13
milen8204I have no wallpaperds too19:14
|johnny|ok now lubuntu says my sound card is working but I get no sound. In addition, the tutorial I followed didn't go exactly as planned.19:15
|johnny|http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_audio_over_HDMI_on_nVidia_GeForce/nForce_controller19:15
filo1234valdur55: http://pastebin.com/G7awT831 you can see FIRST and SECOND19:16
valdur55filo1234, use diff  :)19:18
* |johnny| goes over the instructions again19:18
|johnny|I believe I did everything correctly19:18
milen8204What should I do when flash player keeps crashing ?19:20
|johnny|milen8204, which version do you have? Did you get the one from adobe or are you using the one that came with lubuntu?19:22
|johnny|Some people replace the libflash.so with the adobe one.19:22
valdur55filo1234, good idea :) remove mailcap to avoid failure19:23
milen8204I thing I have installed odes version of flash player19:23
bioterror!backtrace |johnny|19:23
ubottujohnny|: To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace19:23
valdur55filo1234, use xdg-open http://www.ubuntu.com  and what you get?19:24
valdur55bioterror, you should use ||   :P19:24
|johnny|bioterror, oh I know whats wrong. I just don't know how to solve it and nobody else does either.19:24
bioterrorjohnny, what's wrong then?19:24
|johnny|amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',019:25
|johnny|In alsamixer Master, PCM, and IEC958 do not exist19:25
|johnny|and they are supposed to according to these instructions19:25
|johnny|They should be unmuted and then you do speaker-test -D hdmi -c6 -r19200 -FS32_LE19:26
bioterrordamn, i mixed two nicknames19:26
bioterrorbut oh well19:26
|johnny|As it stands if I do a speaker-test it appears like its going through ok however, there is no woman's voice saying "front center, front left, etc."19:27
filo1234valdur55: opened link on browser19:27
filo1234valdur55: brb19:27
bioterrorjohnny, aplay -l gives you what?19:28
valdur55filo1234, and report your bug and solution19:28
|johnny|hang on let me pastebin19:28
valdur55!pastebinit19:28
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com19:28
bioterrorjohnny, on my htpc I get sound with command: aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav19:29
|johnny|I will also paste this as well19:29
|johnny|http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=345819:29
bioterrorwhere 1 is the hdmi and 7 is the correct subdevice19:29
|johnny|and this is aplay19:30
|johnny|http://pastebin.com/uS6RyCSE19:30
bioterrorjohnny, aplay -D plughw:0,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav19:31
bioterrordoes it give you sound?19:31
milen8204i have remove my flash player how to install the oldest version ?19:31
|johnny|yeah! :D19:31
bioterrorokay19:31
|johnny|thanx19:31
|johnny|but now what19:31
bioterrorthen we need to make a little tweaking19:31
bioterrorjust a moment19:31
|johnny|ahh ok19:31
bioterroryou have to create a file ~/.asoundrc19:32
bioterrorand put inside it19:32
bioterrorjust a moment19:32
|johnny|I also removed pulseaudio like the directions said as well and put in xbmc19:32
|johnny|bioterror, there is already one19:32
bioterrorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/875053/19:32
|johnny|ooh the device was wrong thats why19:33
|johnny|      pcm "hw:0,3"19:33
bioterroryou're welcome19:33
|johnny|It should be pcm "hw:0,7" right?19:33
bioterrorwho's next19:33
|johnny|Thanx19:33
bioterrormilen8204, did you get your flash working?19:34
milen8204trying19:35
milen8204I did19:35
milen8204:D19:35
milen8204bioterror: thanks that you asked19:36
bioterrormilen8204, if you have problems with youtube for example, you can always go to youtube.com/html5 and subscribe to use html5 instead of flash ;)19:36
|johnny|http://pastebin.com/a12D11Je didn't seem to help19:37
|johnny|I'll add it in the other way19:37
milen8204bioterror: no, my flash player was crashing every time but I have preinstall it andeverything is OK19:38
bioterrorjohnny, do you need that first {{ }}19:38
bioterrorpcm.dmixer19:38
bioterrorjohnny, Th18:20 <bioterror> http://paste.ubuntu.com/875053/19:38
bioterrorshould be enough19:39
|johnny|ah ok19:39
|johnny|I'll give it a shot19:39
|johnny|let me restart and try it19:41
|johnny|Because as of now I get no sound still even with that new .asoundrc19:41
|johnny|still no good :(19:43
bioterrorreally?19:43
bioterrordoes that aplay -D -command still work?19:43
|johnny|Oh wait19:43
|johnny|You Tube has sound19:43
|johnny|Its just that specific speaker command19:43
bioterrorthere you go19:43
|johnny|odd19:43
|johnny|ok19:43
|johnny|thanx19:43
bioterrorif youtube works, it's all you need.19:44
|johnny|ahh cool yeah but the thing is I just wish there was a way to lower and raise the volume.19:45
|johnny|the volume control applet won't work and neither will the gnome alsa mixer app19:45
filo1234valdur55: OMG19:45
bioterrorcan you do it with alsamixer?19:45
filo1234https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/22076519:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220765 in Xdg-utils "xdg-open should use xdg-mime instead of run-mailcap when no DE detected" [Medium,Fix released]19:45
filo1234valdur55: was just fixed :|19:45
filo1234so old19:46
|johnny|Nope unfortunately I can't. In addition, in order to even get sound I have to keep unmuting s/pdif119:46
|johnny|Every time I restart19:46
bioterrorsounds annoying, I dont have that kind of difficulties with ION2 based device19:47
|johnny|The only way I could control the volume is with pulseaudio and pavucontrol.19:48
|johnny|Issue with that is that I can't use a mixer in lxpanel19:48
|johnny|I have to open up pavucontrol each time I want to control the audio19:48
|johnny|Its an NVIDIA HDMI card. The ATI HDMI card I had before this didn't give me really much trouble.19:53
Flazeras far as we know, there is still no fix for the system tray bug on resume where it adds spaces...mostly on laptops with the battery icon?20:12
CTtechguyFlazer: that bug is annoying20:18
FlazerCTtechguy: yeah...haven't seen any development on it, other than removing the battery icon, which doesn't really work all that great20:20
ingmar_hi... I just installed lubuntu.. everything is working great... But i can't seem to adjust my screen brightness21:31
ingmar_where do i find that?21:31
ingmar_btw, im a unix noob21:31
filo1234menu > preferences > monitor settings?21:32
filo1234ingmar_: ^21:33
ingmar_nope21:33
valdur55ingmar_, laptop?21:33
ingmar_just resolution and refresh rate21:33
ingmar_yup, im on a laptop21:33
filo1234ingmar_: oh you talking about brightness sorry21:34
ingmar_yup21:34
ingmar_like literally21:34
valdur55But have you used windows before ?+21:34
valdur55On same laptop21:34
ingmar_normally i have hotkeys for that.. and it worked on windows 7 and ubuntu21:34
ingmar_yeah i have21:35
ingmar_do i need proprietary drivers for my screen/video card?21:35
valdur55ok, then. Yoi find hotkeys :) And problem is with soft.21:35
ingmar_..ok how do i do that?21:36
|johnny|ok I solved the problem with the volume however now I have the problem with the small font on lxpanel again22:05
|johnny|Apparently, if you try to recompiled lxpanel-0.5.8 over the lxpanel-0.5.8 thats already included with lubuntu, you can fix the small fonts but you'll lose your volume control applet22:06
|johnny|*recompile22:06
|johnny|ok I posted about it in the lxde forum as per suggestion22:46
|johnny|http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1423&p=38645#p3864522:46
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