[04:25] <number_one_1> hi
[04:26] <number_one_1> im new 2 linux, curious how i install java
[04:40] <Unit193> Browser plugin is icedtea-plugin, and java is openjdk
[04:40] <Unit193> !java
[07:29] <|johnny|> Hey guys. I never had trouble with this before when I had an ATI card. But I'm having a series of issues now that I went with NVIDIA although the video quality is much nicer.
[07:33] <|johnny|> lxpanel volume applet won't show up even if I add it. The volume however can be controlled through pavucontrol. Its just weird how the applet won't display at all no matter how many times I add it.
[10:01] <leszek> hi
[11:44] <freiform> hi
[11:57] <pAt_> hello freiform
[13:42] <|johnny|> Can someone help me change the font of the bottom of the windows? http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/1331214101window.png
[13:43] <|johnny|> I'm trying to change everything from 10 px to 16 px. I have done it so far except for there and in lxdm
[13:43] <danstoner> |johnny|: Did you get your mising Volume applet issue fixed?
[13:44] <|johnny|> danstoner, nope :(
[13:44] <danstoner> Any panel issues I have had so far were resolved by restarted lxpanel.
[13:46] <|johnny|> It may be because I had to recompile lxpanel and reinstall it because the fonts were 10px and I had to move them up to 16px. I have had to do this with basically everything because I have a large screen.
[13:46] <|johnny|> lxde defaults are set to smaller screens
[13:47] <|johnny|> Some things can be set through openbox but other things are static and have to be changed manually unfortunately
[13:48] <|johnny|> Also yeah rebooting didn't seem to help. This would restart lxpanel I would think.
[13:48] <danstoner> There is also a lxde channel on freenode.  Since you are recompiling things you might have more luck there.
[13:49] <|johnny|> oh
[13:49] <danstoner> How big is your screen, BTW?
[13:50] <danstoner> All of the default fonts are quite nice for me on 1920x1080 screens.
[13:50] <|johnny|> 32 inch
[13:50] <danstoner> ah.  nice.  :)
[13:51] <|johnny|> But with the NVIDIA card the fonts seem to stick at 10 px and won't scale up automatically.
[13:52] <|johnny|> The ATI card however wouldn't use the entire screen and there would be a black square around it.
[13:52] <danstoner> The nvidia software has some font prettying stuff, I wonder if it is getting in the way.
[13:54] <|johnny|> hmm not sure. I checked out the NVIDIA software and there was nothing that could set the fonts the way I like. You can set some through obconf but not all. Much has to be set manually. I tried before to set lxdm fonts manually by recompiling and it led to a full on reinstall of lubuntu due to it screwing up everything. So I haven't been able to remedy that problem. Just the lxpanel problem.
[13:55] <danstoner> Your screenshot was of PCManFM, correct?
[13:55] <|johnny|> yup
[13:55] <danstoner> Is it happening with other apps too?
[13:55] <danstoner> Seems like most fonts should be configurable via the theme.
[13:55] <danstoner> Otherwise, they might be hard-set in each application.
[13:56] <|johnny|> No because all other apps I edited the conf files to Ubuntu 16 instead of Ubuntu 10.
[13:56] <|johnny|> It was loads of manual editing
[13:56] <|johnny|> Leafpad, LXTerminal, I had to do it app by app
[13:56] <danstoner> Bummer.
[13:56] <|johnny|> Yeah :( Firefox was the only app which displayed the correct font size
[13:57] <|johnny|> There is one thing I could pinpoint the problem with the volume control app though
[13:57] <valdur55> |johnny|, fill bug report!
[13:58] <valdur55> about this fonts problem
[13:58] <|johnny|> It may not be installed along with some other apps. Reason I suspect this is because the battery monitor app can't be added to the panel either
[13:59] <|johnny|> valdur55, unfortunately, I can't file one with Ubuntu itself because the last time I did, they said bugs can only be filed for Ubuntu with the Unity distro.
[13:59] <|johnny|> So if its a bug with lxde I'll probably have to do that somewhere else
[14:00] <valdur55> but have you tried lubuntu project ?
[14:00] <|johnny|> valdur55, I'm using it as we speak. Very happy with it. :) Everything actually worked great with the ATI card I had.
[14:01] <valdur55> oh... report bug against lubuntu
[14:01] <|johnny|> It was when I switched video cards that I started having lots of issues. Even though the resolution and look is superior to the old ATI card.
[14:01] <valdur55> |johnny|, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
[14:04] <danstoner> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[14:05] <|johnny|> I can do that yeah
[14:05] <|johnny|> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/13312154422012-03-08-090228_1920x1080_scrot.png BTW just to show you guys the applet problem
[14:10] <|johnny|> Marty Jack who is on the lxde team is aware of the problem. He said nothing could be done about it yet. I just read a thread about it here: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1423
[14:10] <|johnny|> "I have decided to go with the independent font size control. It does add an additional option, but I think it gives everyone a way to be happy. The default will be 10 pt. Thank you all for your opinions.
[14:10] <|johnny|> I have this working, but I cannot promise when it will come out. Because we have lots of language translations, we have to batch up new features that add strings to the user interface."
[14:10] <danstoner> |johnny|: Try moving the volume control "up" and see if it appears.
[14:11] <|johnny|> danstoner, I tried that and it still doesn't show up
[14:11] <danstoner> move it above the clock
[14:12] <danstoner> I had an issue where I didn' think the notification areas were appearing, but it was just the width of the panel was too wide for the screen.  You could try changing the panel width from "100 %" to something smaller in pixels.
[14:13] <danstoner> and I haven't figured out what "Dynamic" means, but I had much better luck hard-setting panel width in Pixels.
[14:13] <|johnny|> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3454 still no good.
[14:14] <|johnny|> It just seems so odd because with the ATI card the minute I installed pulseaudio it appeared right away.
[14:17] <|johnny|> oooh
[14:17] <|johnny|> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=31496
[14:17] <|johnny|> I understand now
[14:20] <danstoner> |johnny|: cool!
[14:20] <|johnny|> 0.58 by default is missing the volume control plugin
[14:21] <|johnny|> It is considered "optional"
[14:21] <|johnny|> So I think thats the issue right there
[14:21] <|johnny|> Earlier lxpanel versions have it enabled by default. When I compiled the new version, this is what it did. I think....
[14:23] <|johnny|> I'm not exactly certain though how to fix the problem but I'm looking at this right now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.5.8+git20120212-0ubuntu1
[14:28] <|johnny|> hmm apparently that wasn't the problem. It shows that the Net status icon plugin is also optional and that one works.
[14:30] <|johnny|> /etc/asound.conf is blank. Could this have something to do with it?
[14:32] <|johnny|> Also alsamixer looks screwy in and of itself. I believe alsamixer is likely attached to volume control in some way.
[14:34] <|johnny|> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3455
[14:43] <|johnny|> Ok yes as I figured. The problem is much larger than just the lxde volume control app. This is an ALSA issue. GNOME Alsa Mixer does not load.
[15:43] <|johnny|> yeah I think this is not good. amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0
[16:30] <iceroot> can someone on lubuntu 12.04 with wine installed please right click on a *.jpg and choose the open-with menu. do you also have wine listed twice there?
[16:31] <iceroot> the next question is of course why is wine in that list
[17:07] <filo1234> hi all
[17:13] <filo1234> I have a little issue "maybe" I'm not sure if it's a xdg-open version related...using Ubuntu 10.04 here, so when I type xdg-open on terminal I aspecting that pcmanfm opens, like on other version of lubuntu/gnome, this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/874834/ btw when I use xdg-open /path/somefile it runs
[17:14] <valdur55> filo1234, bash -x xdg-open
[17:14] <valdur55> then you get some more debug info
[17:15] <filo1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/874838/
[17:16] <valdur55> ohcibi, and your /home .... item
[17:17] <valdur55> ohcibi, sorry
[17:17] <valdur55> filo1234, and your /home .... item
[17:18] <filo1234> valdur55: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874844/
[17:21] <valdur55> ok . and then use same command with gnome, kde ... session
[17:21] <valdur55> then you see what causes this bug :)
[17:22] <filo1234> valdur55: ok wait I have to start vbox :P
[17:23] <valdur55> filo1234, but, why you should do that?
[17:23] <filo1234> valdur55: beacause I have a portable script that opens window-manager for choose files....
[17:24] <filo1234> because*
[17:24] <valdur55> xdg-open is bash script
[17:24] <filo1234> valdur55: that script open public folder on dropbox and create public url
[17:44] <filo1234> valdur55: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874876/    http://paste.ubuntu.com/874872/
[17:44] <filo1234> it works on xfce and gnome too and on another lubuntu ( 12.04 )
[17:49] <filo1234> valdur55: I see DE=generic on that pastes instead DE=xfce or DE=gnome
[17:49] <filo1234> could it be the prblem?
[17:50] <valdur55> and there is x$DE == "xLDE" line
[17:50] <filo1234> :O
[17:50] <valdur55> on 12.04
[17:51] <filo1234> I don't know it, I have 12.04 at work
[17:52] <filo1234> valdur55: so here, my session start with startlxde instead startlubuntu
[17:52] <filo1234> is this the issue?
[17:53] <valdur55> yea, you use lxde default settings instead of lubutnu default settings
[17:53] <filo1234> valdur55: pffffff ok i'll check for fix it
[17:53] <valdur55> startlxde and startlubuntu are again bash scripts
[17:54] <filo1234> yeah
[17:54] <valdur55> you  can see diff :)
[17:54] <filo1234> but I don't know why....this is a default installation
[17:54] <filo1234> ok i'll check thanks
[18:01] <filo1234> bye
[18:35] <highvoltage> hi!
[18:35] <highvoltage> any Lubuntu developers around?
[18:36] <highvoltage> I put together a LDM (LTSP Login Manager) theme for Lubuntu (since it had none)
[18:36] <highvoltage> but I need an ack from a Lubuntu developer before I can upload it:
[18:36] <highvoltage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/838382
[18:41] <filo1234> valdur55: not solved, maybe lubuntu-desktop package on 10.04 have some difference
[18:41] <filo1234> valdur55: so I changed my script for this machine.....workaround solution :p
[18:42] <valdur55> :) and please comment you workaround...
[18:43] <filo1234> valdur55: simply changed xdg-open with /usr/bin/pcmanfm
[18:43] <valdur55> ok.
[18:44] <filo1234> stupid workaround
[18:44] <filo1234> :D
[18:45] <valdur55> if ^/ and /$ then use pcmanfm
[19:02] <filo1234> valdur55: another workaround..... alias xdg-open='pcmanfm' on ~/.bashrc
[19:03] <filo1234> :p
[19:07] <milen8204> hello how can I make right click on the descktop to show normal options
[19:08] <valdur55> normaL?
[19:08] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Right-clicking_on_desktop_pulls_up_a_menu_that_is_missing_the_.22Desktop_Preferences.22_option_and_now_I_can.27t_change_my_wallpaper
[19:09] <filo1234> valdur55: found a clean solution!!
[19:09] <filo1234> valdur55: change open_generic() function on /usr/bin/xdg-open
[19:10] <valdur55> yea it's buggy function
[19:10] <filo1234> do you want see changes?
[19:11] <milen8204> valdur55: normal means new folder , copy paste so on ..
[19:11] <valdur55> milen8204, look Unit193 link and bookmark FAQ page
[19:11] <milen8204> ok thanks
[19:13] <valdur55> I have one idea....  lubuntu should put FAQ page to chrome bookmarks
[19:13] <valdur55> filo1234, yea...  it will be nice
[19:13] <milen8204> valdur55: doenst work
[19:14] <milen8204> I have no wallpaperds too
[19:15] <|johnny|> ok now lubuntu says my sound card is working but I get no sound. In addition, the tutorial I followed didn't go exactly as planned.
[19:15] <|johnny|> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_audio_over_HDMI_on_nVidia_GeForce/nForce_controller
[19:16] <filo1234> valdur55: http://pastebin.com/G7awT831 you can see FIRST and SECOND
[19:18] <valdur55> filo1234, use diff  :)
[19:18]  * |johnny| goes over the instructions again
[19:18] <|johnny|> I believe I did everything correctly
[19:20] <milen8204> What should I do when flash player keeps crashing ?
[19:22] <|johnny|> milen8204, which version do you have? Did you get the one from adobe or are you using the one that came with lubuntu?
[19:22] <|johnny|> Some people replace the libflash.so with the adobe one.
[19:23] <valdur55> filo1234, good idea :) remove mailcap to avoid failure
[19:23] <milen8204> I thing I have installed odes version of flash player
[19:23] <bioterror> !backtrace |johnny|
[19:24] <valdur55> filo1234, use xdg-open http://www.ubuntu.com  and what you get?
[19:24] <valdur55> bioterror, you should use ||   :P
[19:24] <|johnny|> bioterror, oh I know whats wrong. I just don't know how to solve it and nobody else does either.
[19:24] <bioterror> johnny, what's wrong then?
[19:25] <|johnny|> amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0
[19:25] <|johnny|> In alsamixer Master, PCM, and IEC958 do not exist
[19:25] <|johnny|> and they are supposed to according to these instructions
[19:26] <|johnny|> They should be unmuted and then you do speaker-test -D hdmi -c6 -r19200 -FS32_LE
[19:26] <bioterror> damn, i mixed two nicknames
[19:26] <bioterror> but oh well
[19:27] <|johnny|> As it stands if I do a speaker-test it appears like its going through ok however, there is no woman's voice saying "front center, front left, etc."
[19:27] <filo1234> valdur55: opened link on browser
[19:27] <filo1234> valdur55: brb
[19:28] <bioterror> johnny, aplay -l gives you what?
[19:28] <valdur55> filo1234, and report your bug and solution
[19:28] <|johnny|> hang on let me pastebin
[19:28] <valdur55> !pastebinit
[19:29] <bioterror> johnny, on my htpc I get sound with command: aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[19:29] <|johnny|> I will also paste this as well
[19:29] <|johnny|> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3458
[19:29] <bioterror> where 1 is the hdmi and 7 is the correct subdevice
[19:30] <|johnny|> and this is aplay
[19:30] <|johnny|> http://pastebin.com/uS6RyCSE
[19:31] <bioterror> johnny, aplay -D plughw:0,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[19:31] <bioterror> does it give you sound?
[19:31] <milen8204> i have remove my flash player how to install the oldest version ?
[19:31] <|johnny|> yeah! :D
[19:31] <bioterror> okay
[19:31] <|johnny|> thanx
[19:31] <|johnny|> but now what
[19:31] <bioterror> then we need to make a little tweaking
[19:31] <bioterror> just a moment
[19:31] <|johnny|> ahh ok
[19:32] <bioterror> you have to create a file ~/.asoundrc
[19:32] <bioterror> and put inside it
[19:32] <bioterror> just a moment
[19:32] <|johnny|> I also removed pulseaudio like the directions said as well and put in xbmc
[19:32] <|johnny|> bioterror, there is already one
[19:32] <bioterror> http://paste.ubuntu.com/875053/
[19:33] <|johnny|> ooh the device was wrong thats why
[19:33] <|johnny|>       pcm "hw:0,3"
[19:33] <bioterror> you're welcome
[19:33] <|johnny|> It should be pcm "hw:0,7" right?
[19:33] <bioterror> who's next
[19:33] <|johnny|> Thanx
[19:34] <bioterror> milen8204, did you get your flash working?
[19:35] <milen8204> trying
[19:35] <milen8204> I did
[19:35] <milen8204> :D
[19:36] <milen8204> bioterror: thanks that you asked
[19:36] <bioterror> milen8204, if you have problems with youtube for example, you can always go to youtube.com/html5 and subscribe to use html5 instead of flash ;)
[19:37] <|johnny|> http://pastebin.com/a12D11Je didn't seem to help
[19:37] <|johnny|> I'll add it in the other way
[19:38] <milen8204> bioterror: no, my flash player was crashing every time but I have preinstall it andeverything is OK
[19:38] <bioterror> johnny, do you need that first {{ }}
[19:38] <bioterror> pcm.dmixer
[19:38] <bioterror> johnny, Th18:20 <bioterror> http://paste.ubuntu.com/875053/
[19:39] <bioterror> should be enough
[19:39] <|johnny|> ah ok
[19:39] <|johnny|> I'll give it a shot
[19:41] <|johnny|> let me restart and try it
[19:41] <|johnny|> Because as of now I get no sound still even with that new .asoundrc
[19:43] <|johnny|> still no good :(
[19:43] <bioterror> really?
[19:43] <bioterror> does that aplay -D -command still work?
[19:43] <|johnny|> Oh wait
[19:43] <|johnny|> You Tube has sound
[19:43] <|johnny|> Its just that specific speaker command
[19:43] <bioterror> there you go
[19:43] <|johnny|> odd
[19:43] <|johnny|> ok
[19:43] <|johnny|> thanx
[19:44] <bioterror> if youtube works, it's all you need.
[19:45] <|johnny|> ahh cool yeah but the thing is I just wish there was a way to lower and raise the volume.
[19:45] <|johnny|> the volume control applet won't work and neither will the gnome alsa mixer app
[19:45] <filo1234> valdur55: OMG
[19:45] <bioterror> can you do it with alsamixer?
[19:45] <filo1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/220765
[19:45] <filo1234> valdur55: was just fixed :|
[19:46] <filo1234> so old
[19:46] <|johnny|> Nope unfortunately I can't. In addition, in order to even get sound I have to keep unmuting s/pdif1
[19:46] <|johnny|> Every time I restart
[19:47] <bioterror> sounds annoying, I dont have that kind of difficulties with ION2 based device
[19:48] <|johnny|> The only way I could control the volume is with pulseaudio and pavucontrol.
[19:48] <|johnny|> Issue with that is that I can't use a mixer in lxpanel
[19:48] <|johnny|> I have to open up pavucontrol each time I want to control the audio
[19:53] <|johnny|> Its an NVIDIA HDMI card. The ATI HDMI card I had before this didn't give me really much trouble.
[20:12] <Flazer> as far as we know, there is still no fix for the system tray bug on resume where it adds spaces...mostly on laptops with the battery icon?
[20:18] <CTtechguy> Flazer: that bug is annoying
[20:20] <Flazer> CTtechguy: yeah...haven't seen any development on it, other than removing the battery icon, which doesn't really work all that great
[21:31] <ingmar_> hi... I just installed lubuntu.. everything is working great... But i can't seem to adjust my screen brightness
[21:31] <ingmar_> where do i find that?
[21:31] <ingmar_> btw, im a unix noob
[21:32] <filo1234> menu > preferences > monitor settings?
[21:33] <filo1234> ingmar_: ^
[21:33] <ingmar_> nope
[21:33] <valdur55> ingmar_, laptop?
[21:33] <ingmar_> just resolution and refresh rate
[21:33] <ingmar_> yup, im on a laptop
[21:34] <filo1234> ingmar_: oh you talking about brightness sorry
[21:34] <ingmar_> yup
[21:34] <ingmar_> like literally
[21:34] <valdur55> But have you used windows before ?+
[21:34] <valdur55> On same laptop
[21:34] <ingmar_> normally i have hotkeys for that.. and it worked on windows 7 and ubuntu
[21:35] <ingmar_> yeah i have
[21:35] <ingmar_> do i need proprietary drivers for my screen/video card?
[21:35] <valdur55> ok, then. Yoi find hotkeys :) And problem is with soft.
[21:36] <ingmar_> ..ok how do i do that?
[22:05] <|johnny|> ok I solved the problem with the volume however now I have the problem with the small font on lxpanel again
[22:06] <|johnny|> Apparently, if you try to recompiled lxpanel-0.5.8 over the lxpanel-0.5.8 thats already included with lubuntu, you can fix the small fonts but you'll lose your volume control applet
[22:06] <|johnny|> *recompile
[22:46] <|johnny|> ok I posted about it in the lxde forum as per suggestion
[22:46] <|johnny|> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1423&p=38645#p38645