| bkerensa | Can I have Bug #949578 marked as Wishlist | 01:59 |
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| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 949578 in xorg-gtest "[MIR] xorg-gtest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949578 | 01:59 |
| bkerensa | and Bug #949568 and Bug #949575 | 02:01 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 949568 in gnome-session "Default GNOME fallback session should be "GNOME Classic (no effects)" (Metacity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949568 | 02:01 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 949575 in gtest "Main inclusion request for libgtest-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949575 | 02:01 |
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| veger | bug #799460 is not being caused by akregator (kdepim), but by an other application of which I am not sure (nspluginviewer/firefox/???). What to do with this report? Just setting the kdepim status to invalid seems a bit harsh to me... | 09:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 799460 in kdepim "nspluginviewer crashes when attempting to display flash content in Akregator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799460 | 09:08 |
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| matthew-parlette | not sure if my last message went through: | 19:08 |
| matthew-parlette | hey all, I'm working on bug 950006, which appears to have all error messages included and I can't find any duplicates based on the error text, is there anything else I need to do on this before confirming it? | 19:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 950006 in update-manager "Upgrade from oneiric to precise fails because of py3clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950006 | 19:08 |
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| bdmurray | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478714/bad%20bad%20bad%20very%20bad%20video.ogv | 21:45 |
| bdmurray | lol | 21:45 |
| yofel | nice one :D | 21:50 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 21:51 |
| JohnNapster | hello | 22:50 |
| JohnNapster | there's a critical bug in ubuntu | 22:51 |
| bdmurray | do you mean one that isn't marked as critical? | 22:52 |
| JohnNapster | please listen | 22:54 |
| JohnNapster | if you set your admin account to hve a blank password, you will regret it for the rest of your life | 22:55 |
| JohnNapster | because you will not be able to log into your admin user account once you reboot your machine | 22:55 |
| JohnNapster | i tried EVERYTHING | 22:56 |
| hggdh | ? why not sudo? | 22:56 |
| JanC | I think the only bug there is that you could set an empty password | 22:56 |
| hggdh | by 'admin' I understand root | 22:56 |
| JohnNapster | nope | 22:56 |
| JohnNapster | by admin i mean an administrator account | 22:57 |
| JohnNapster | not root | 22:57 |
| hggdh | an account that is a member of the admin group, right? | 22:57 |
| JohnNapster | admin = administrator type account (not standard) | 22:57 |
| JohnNapster | yes | 22:57 |
| jalcine | You should be able to reset the password of the account using sudo though, | 22:57 |
| JohnNapster | like how ?? | 22:57 |
| jalcine | if you have another account in the sudoers group. | 22:57 |
| JohnNapster | i don+t | 22:58 |
| hggdh | ok. One way out of this mess, right now, is to boot into recovery | 22:58 |
| JohnNapster | that's my problem | 22:58 |
| JanC | log in to the rescue console | 22:58 |
| JohnNapster | okay just tell me and i'll try at reboot | 22:58 |
| JanC | well, boot into the rescue console | 22:58 |
| JohnNapster | how? | 22:58 |
| JanC | JohnNapster: hold shift while booting, then choose the appropriate option in the boot menu | 22:59 |
| JohnNapster | please bare with me, i am really dumb :) | 22:59 |
| hggdh | (1) reboot; (2) hold the SHIFT key until you see the GRUB boot menu; (3) select recovery | 22:59 |
| JohnNapster | ok | 22:59 |
| hggdh | you will be put into a console | 22:59 |
| JohnNapster | then what should i do? | 23:00 |
| hggdh | as root. Then, you enter "passwd <your account>", | 23:00 |
| hggdh | where <your account> is the one you do not have a password | 23:00 |
| JohnNapster | just like that? | 23:00 |
| JanC | it will give you a menu, choose the root shell option | 23:00 |
| JohnNapster | so like abc123 myaccountname ?? | 23:01 |
| hggdh | then you enter the new password. It is a VERY GOOD idea to make it the same you had before | 23:01 |
| JohnNapster | no sudo in front or some other command? | 23:01 |
| JanC | it gives you a root shell ;) | 23:01 |
| JohnNapster | i see | 23:01 |
| hggdh | like 'passwd hggdh', where 'hggdh' is the account | 23:01 |
| JohnNapster | i see | 23:01 |
| hggdh | now | 23:01 |
| JohnNapster | okay now i get it... nw i have question | 23:02 |
| JanC | and yes, you can disable/restrict that option in the grub boot menu ;) | 23:02 |
| JohnNapster | why don't u block making a blank password? | 23:02 |
| hggdh | it is really NOT a very good idea to have an admin-capable account without password, EVEN if the machine is at home, in a safe | 23:02 |
| hggdh | because there are uses for it | 23:02 |
| JohnNapster | yeah, like if you anna break everything like i did | 23:03 |
| JanC | hggdh: I disagree that there are uses for 99.99% of users that use the GUI installer | 23:03 |
| hggdh | this is a bug, though: an account member of the admin group should NEVER be allowed not to have a password | 23:03 |
| JohnNapster | please inforce that | 23:03 |
| hggdh | JanC: I am not discussing the merit of password-less accounts ;-) I frankly do not see any reason for them, at all | 23:04 |
| JohnNapster | because otheerwise we experience nasty effects (like not being able to login to the admin type account) | 23:04 |
| hggdh | yes, this is an usage issue (user expectation). This should not be allowed | 23:05 |
| JohnNapster | if we set a blank password | 23:05 |
| JanC | hggdh: oh, I can see uses for them, but not for members of group admin in Ubuntu ;) | 23:05 |
| hggdh | there is a thread, somewhere, about this. JohnNapster, what is your Ubuntu version? | 23:06 |
| * hggdh thinks this is a bit recent | 23:06 | |
| JohnNapster | can you guys force the user not being able to set a blank password in the User Accounts section for the group admin accounts?? | 23:06 |
| JohnNapster | my version is 11.10 | 23:06 |
| hggdh | thanks. JohnNapster, I believe you have ways of pinging us here if you have an issue during the resetting of the password. Please holler if so | 23:07 |
| JohnNapster | i'll try your suggestion | 23:08 |
| JohnNapster | brb | 23:08 |
| hggdh | some sort of decision must be taken (either correcting the error you get when you try to 'sudo', or not allowing a password-less admin account) | 23:08 |
| JanC | JohnNapster: and please file a bug report about this | 23:08 |
| JohnNapster | oh and about that bug... are you gonna fix it? | 23:08 |
| JohnNapster | please ou do it | 23:08 |
| hggdh | if you open the bug, why, yes, we will :-) | 23:08 |
| JohnNapster | i am very limited on this machine | 23:09 |
| JohnNapster | someone ought to do this | 23:09 |
| JohnNapster | i can't, really | 23:09 |
| JohnNapster | hggdh: would you do the honors? | 23:09 |
| hggdh | JohnNapster: I will try to reproduce. If I can, I will (may be related to 11.10, only, and I will have to install it) | 23:10 |
| * hggdh thinks this sounds like a regression | 23:11 | |
| JohnNapster | i can get into the recovery console by Ctl+Alt+F4 | 23:12 |
| JohnNapster | i did what you said and it spitted out command mypassword123 not found | 23:13 |
| JohnNapster | and then Alt+F7 to come back | 23:13 |
| JohnNapster | and yes, i was doing the thing u said as root | 23:14 |
| JohnNapster | root@Machine mypassword123 myaccountname1234 | 23:15 |
| JohnNapster | and it says mypassword123: command not found | 23:15 |
| JohnNapster | anyother suggestion? | 23:16 |
| hggdh | passwd account | 23:17 |
| hggdh | passwd is the command | 23:18 |
| JohnNapster | oh | 23:18 |
| JohnNapster | silly me | 23:18 |
| hggdh | JohnNapster: let's say your account is named 'john' | 23:18 |
| JohnNapster | ok | 23:18 |
| hggdh | so you type in 'passwd john' | 23:18 |
| JohnNapster | oohh | 23:18 |
| JohnNapster | so you mean like passwd john mysecretpassword123 ? | 23:19 |
| hggdh | and, again, it is a VERY good idea to set the password to what it was before | 23:19 |
| JohnNapster | ok, gotcha | 23:19 |
| hggdh | there are other parts of the desktop experience that will be happier this way | 23:19 |
| JohnNapster | they shouldn't be "happieer" | 23:23 |
| JohnNapster | they should adapt to the new password | 23:23 |
| JohnNapster | ubuntu is very broken in this regard | 23:23 |
| hggdh | they do. But you are outside the desktop, right now | 23:23 |
| JohnNapster | not really | 23:23 |
| hggdh | actually, Ubuntu (or Linux, in general) is not broken on this... | 23:24 |
| JohnNapster | i am in a guest account in firefox | 23:24 |
| JohnNapster | tring to get some help from ou guys | 23:24 |
| JohnNapster | tring | 23:24 |
| JohnNapster | god dammit :) | 23:24 |
| JohnNapster | trying* | 23:24 |
| hggdh | heh | 23:25 |
| hggdh | JohnNapster: I am confused. If you are under a guest account, how can you run the password change process? | 23:25 |
| JohnNapster | Ctrl+Alt+F4 | 23:26 |
| hggdh | that would not really help, since you cannot login as root | 23:27 |
| JohnNapster | gets me into the console and then i get out by Alt+F7 | 23:27 |
| JohnNapster | i can! | 23:27 |
| JohnNapster | i already did login as root that way | 23:27 |
| hggdh | so, so you CAN login as root. Did you change the password for your account? | 23:28 |
| JohnNapster | it didn't work | 23:28 |
| hggdh | please give us the exact command you executed, and the EXACT output | 23:28 |
| JohnNapster | ok let me retype | 23:29 |
| JohnNapster | too much to retype... | 23:30 |
| JohnNapster | it was like so... | 23:30 |
| JohnNapster | i typed su | 23:30 |
| JohnNapster | and then i was root | 23:30 |
| hggdh | and? | 23:31 |
| JohnNapster | then i typed passwd and pressed enter | 23:31 |
| hggdh | NOOOOOO | 23:31 |
| JohnNapster | it said please type new UNIX password | 23:31 |
| hggdh | passwd <account> | 23:31 |
| JohnNapster | oh | 23:31 |
| hggdh | you most probably just changed the root password | 23:31 |
| JohnNapster | wait | 23:31 |
| JohnNapster | i did yeah | 23:31 |
| hggdh | better not forget it... | 23:32 |
| JohnNapster | okay now i did it | 23:33 |
| JohnNapster | let me try this baby | 23:33 |
| JohnNapster | my sincere condolences, but this does not work guys | 23:38 |
| JohnNapster | i am still not able to login to my admin group account | 23:38 |
| JohnNapster | i am logged in as guest | 23:38 |
| JohnNapster | and i can't even mount my usb key | 23:39 |
| hggdh | did you login with your account? | 23:40 |
| JohnNapster | yes | 23:40 |
| JohnNapster | but it threw me out | 23:40 |
| JohnNapster | i had no choice but to pick the Guest account at the Unity login | 23:41 |
| hggdh | what happened? | 23:41 |
| JohnNapster | or how it's called | 23:41 |
| JohnNapster | some text was displayed after i clicked on my account .... you know where it says blah blah blah[OK] | 23:42 |
| JohnNapster | and then it put me right back to the login screen | 23:43 |
| bdmurray | blah blah blah isn't very descriptive | 23:43 |
| hggdh | so we go back to resetting the password on your admin account | 23:43 |
| JohnNapster | my account (the admin group one) did not have the password field... just a button labeled Login | 23:43 |
| hggdh | which means it does not have a password | 23:44 |
| JohnNapster | bt i must hve | 23:44 |
| hggdh | I thought this was what we asked you to do | 23:44 |
| JohnNapster | i changed it | 23:44 |
| hggdh | let's do it again | 23:44 |
| JohnNapster | logged in as root, did the passwd john password123 | 23:44 |
| hggdh | no | 23:44 |
| hggdh | passwd john | 23:44 |
| JohnNapster | i mean passwd john | 23:45 |
| JohnNapster | yeah | 23:45 |
| hggdh | ok | 23:45 |
| JohnNapster | then when it asked i typed the password | 23:45 |
| hggdh | now STILL on the console, log out, and log in as john | 23:45 |
| JohnNapster | like type exit to get out of root ? | 23:46 |
| hggdh | yes, and get back to the console login | 23:46 |
| JohnNapster | like which console login? | 23:46 |
| hggdh | ctrl-alt-f1 | 23:47 |
| JohnNapster | oh that one | 23:47 |
| JohnNapster | ok | 23:47 |
| JohnNapster | my machine name is Monk | 23:47 |
| JohnNapster | it says Monk login | 23:47 |
| hggdh | yes | 23:48 |
| hggdh | now type in your account name | 23:48 |
| hggdh | then you will be prompted for a password, type the new password in | 23:48 |
| JohnNapster | you know what? | 23:49 |
| hggdh | shoot :-) | 23:49 |
| hggdh | it did not work... | 23:49 |
| JohnNapster | i typed john in there and i had to type my password | 23:49 |
| JohnNapster | i typed the one i set before | 23:49 |
| JohnNapster | it worked! | 23:49 |
| hggdh | heh | 23:49 |
| hggdh | OK | 23:49 |
| JohnNapster | but i still can't login to that account at the GUI level | 23:50 |
| JohnNapster | i am not even asked for password | 23:50 |
| JohnNapster | this is a terrible bug | 23:50 |
| hggdh | nope | 23:50 |
| JohnNapster | why did i make the account password blank, oh for the love of god why | 23:51 |
| JohnNapster | ok what do you propose now? | 23:52 |
| hggdh | as root, enter "sudo restart lightdm" <- you WILL lose your gueste session. Then login again, and come here again | 23:52 |
| JohnNapster | ok | 23:52 |
| JohnNapster | see ya ;) | 23:52 |
| hggdh | we will be here | 23:52 |
| JohnNapster_ | htorhello | 23:55 |
| JohnNapster_ | hggdh: thank you a million times!! | 23:55 |
| JohnNapster_ | now i am logged into my john account | 23:55 |
| JohnNapster_ | thanks so much | 23:55 |
| JohnNapster_ | another thing... why does a blank password corrupt the admin group account? | 23:59 |
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