[01:59] Can I have Bug #949578 marked as Wishlist [01:59] Launchpad bug 949578 in xorg-gtest "[MIR] xorg-gtest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949578 [02:01] and Bug #949568 and Bug #949575 [02:01] Launchpad bug 949568 in gnome-session "Default GNOME fallback session should be "GNOME Classic (no effects)" (Metacity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949568 [02:01] Launchpad bug 949575 in gtest "Main inclusion request for libgtest-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949575 === philipballew is now known as hello_my_name_is === hello_my_name_is is now known as philipballew === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga [09:08] bug #799460 is not being caused by akregator (kdepim), but by an other application of which I am not sure (nspluginviewer/firefox/???). What to do with this report? Just setting the kdepim status to invalid seems a bit harsh to me... [09:08] Launchpad bug 799460 in kdepim "nspluginviewer crashes when attempting to display flash content in Akregator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799460 === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga-afk === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === yofel is now known as yofel_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === vivek is now known as Guest90488 === Guest90488 is now known as pvivek === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty [19:08] not sure if my last message went through: [19:08] hey all, I'm working on bug 950006, which appears to have all error messages included and I can't find any duplicates based on the error text, is there anything else I need to do on this before confirming it? [19:08] Launchpad bug 950006 in update-manager "Upgrade from oneiric to precise fails because of py3clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950006 === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty === htorque_ is now known as htorque === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty === htorque_ is now known as htorque [21:45] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478714/bad%20bad%20bad%20very%20bad%20video.ogv [21:45] lol [21:50] nice one :D [21:51] hehe [22:50] hello [22:51] there's a critical bug in ubuntu [22:52] do you mean one that isn't marked as critical? [22:54] please listen [22:55] if you set your admin account to hve a blank password, you will regret it for the rest of your life [22:55] because you will not be able to log into your admin user account once you reboot your machine [22:56] i tried EVERYTHING [22:56] ? why not sudo? [22:56] I think the only bug there is that you could set an empty password [22:56] by 'admin' I understand root [22:56] nope [22:57] by admin i mean an administrator account [22:57] not root [22:57] an account that is a member of the admin group, right? [22:57] admin = administrator type account (not standard) [22:57] yes [22:57] You should be able to reset the password of the account using sudo though, [22:57] like how ?? [22:57] if you have another account in the sudoers group. [22:58] i don+t [22:58] ok. One way out of this mess, right now, is to boot into recovery [22:58] that's my problem [22:58] log in to the rescue console [22:58] okay just tell me and i'll try at reboot [22:58] well, boot into the rescue console [22:58] how? [22:59] JohnNapster: hold shift while booting, then choose the appropriate option in the boot menu [22:59] please bare with me, i am really dumb :) [22:59] (1) reboot; (2) hold the SHIFT key until you see the GRUB boot menu; (3) select recovery [22:59] ok [22:59] you will be put into a console [23:00] then what should i do? [23:00] as root. Then, you enter "passwd ", [23:00] where is the one you do not have a password [23:00] just like that? [23:00] it will give you a menu, choose the root shell option [23:01] so like abc123 myaccountname ?? [23:01] then you enter the new password. It is a VERY GOOD idea to make it the same you had before [23:01] no sudo in front or some other command? [23:01] it gives you a root shell ;) [23:01] i see [23:01] like 'passwd hggdh', where 'hggdh' is the account [23:01] i see [23:01] now [23:02] okay now i get it... nw i have question [23:02] and yes, you can disable/restrict that option in the grub boot menu ;) [23:02] why don't u block making a blank password? [23:02] it is really NOT a very good idea to have an admin-capable account without password, EVEN if the machine is at home, in a safe [23:02] because there are uses for it [23:03] yeah, like if you anna break everything like i did [23:03] hggdh: I disagree that there are uses for 99.99% of users that use the GUI installer [23:03] this is a bug, though: an account member of the admin group should NEVER be allowed not to have a password [23:03] please inforce that [23:04] JanC: I am not discussing the merit of password-less accounts ;-) I frankly do not see any reason for them, at all [23:04] because otheerwise we experience nasty effects (like not being able to login to the admin type account) [23:05] yes, this is an usage issue (user expectation). This should not be allowed [23:05] if we set a blank password [23:05] hggdh: oh, I can see uses for them, but not for members of group admin in Ubuntu ;) [23:06] there is a thread, somewhere, about this. JohnNapster, what is your Ubuntu version? [23:06] * hggdh thinks this is a bit recent [23:06] can you guys force the user not being able to set a blank password in the User Accounts section for the group admin accounts?? [23:06] my version is 11.10 [23:07] thanks. JohnNapster, I believe you have ways of pinging us here if you have an issue during the resetting of the password. Please holler if so [23:08] i'll try your suggestion [23:08] brb [23:08] some sort of decision must be taken (either correcting the error you get when you try to 'sudo', or not allowing a password-less admin account) [23:08] JohnNapster: and please file a bug report about this [23:08] oh and about that bug... are you gonna fix it? [23:08] please ou do it [23:08] if you open the bug, why, yes, we will :-) [23:09] i am very limited on this machine [23:09] someone ought to do this [23:09] i can't, really [23:09] hggdh: would you do the honors? [23:10] JohnNapster: I will try to reproduce. If I can, I will (may be related to 11.10, only, and I will have to install it) [23:11] * hggdh thinks this sounds like a regression [23:12] i can get into the recovery console by Ctl+Alt+F4 [23:13] i did what you said and it spitted out command mypassword123 not found [23:13] and then Alt+F7 to come back [23:14] and yes, i was doing the thing u said as root [23:15] root@Machine mypassword123 myaccountname1234 [23:15] and it says mypassword123: command not found [23:16] anyother suggestion? [23:17] passwd account [23:18] passwd is the command [23:18] oh [23:18] silly me [23:18] JohnNapster: let's say your account is named 'john' [23:18] ok [23:18] so you type in 'passwd john' [23:18] oohh [23:19] so you mean like passwd john mysecretpassword123 ? [23:19] and, again, it is a VERY good idea to set the password to what it was before [23:19] ok, gotcha [23:19] there are other parts of the desktop experience that will be happier this way [23:23] they shouldn't be "happieer" [23:23] they should adapt to the new password [23:23] ubuntu is very broken in this regard [23:23] they do. But you are outside the desktop, right now [23:23] not really [23:24] actually, Ubuntu (or Linux, in general) is not broken on this... [23:24] i am in a guest account in firefox [23:24] tring to get some help from ou guys [23:24] tring [23:24] god dammit :) [23:24] trying* [23:25] heh [23:25] JohnNapster: I am confused. If you are under a guest account, how can you run the password change process? [23:26] Ctrl+Alt+F4 [23:27] that would not really help, since you cannot login as root [23:27] gets me into the console and then i get out by Alt+F7 [23:27] i can! [23:27] i already did login as root that way [23:28] so, so you CAN login as root. Did you change the password for your account? [23:28] it didn't work [23:28] please give us the exact command you executed, and the EXACT output [23:29] ok let me retype [23:30] too much to retype... [23:30] it was like so... [23:30] i typed su [23:30] and then i was root [23:31] and? [23:31] then i typed passwd and pressed enter [23:31] NOOOOOO [23:31] it said please type new UNIX password [23:31] passwd [23:31] oh [23:31] you most probably just changed the root password [23:31] wait [23:31] i did yeah [23:32] better not forget it... [23:33] okay now i did it [23:33] let me try this baby [23:38] my sincere condolences, but this does not work guys [23:38] i am still not able to login to my admin group account [23:38] i am logged in as guest [23:39] and i can't even mount my usb key [23:40] did you login with your account? [23:40] yes [23:40] but it threw me out [23:41] i had no choice but to pick the Guest account at the Unity login [23:41] what happened? [23:41] or how it's called [23:42] some text was displayed after i clicked on my account .... you know where it says blah blah blah[OK] [23:43] and then it put me right back to the login screen [23:43] blah blah blah isn't very descriptive [23:43] so we go back to resetting the password on your admin account [23:43] my account (the admin group one) did not have the password field... just a button labeled Login [23:44] which means it does not have a password [23:44] bt i must hve [23:44] I thought this was what we asked you to do [23:44] i changed it [23:44] let's do it again [23:44] logged in as root, did the passwd john password123 [23:44] no [23:44] passwd john [23:45] i mean passwd john [23:45] yeah [23:45] ok [23:45] then when it asked i typed the password [23:45] now STILL on the console, log out, and log in as john [23:46] like type exit to get out of root ? [23:46] yes, and get back to the console login [23:46] like which console login? [23:47] ctrl-alt-f1 [23:47] oh that one [23:47] ok [23:47] my machine name is Monk [23:47] it says Monk login [23:48] yes [23:48] now type in your account name [23:48] then you will be prompted for a password, type the new password in [23:49] you know what? [23:49] shoot :-) [23:49] it did not work... [23:49] i typed john in there and i had to type my password [23:49] i typed the one i set before [23:49] it worked! [23:49] heh [23:49] OK [23:50] but i still can't login to that account at the GUI level [23:50] i am not even asked for password [23:50] this is a terrible bug [23:50] nope [23:51] why did i make the account password blank, oh for the love of god why [23:52] ok what do you propose now? [23:52] as root, enter "sudo restart lightdm" <- you WILL lose your gueste session. Then login again, and come here again [23:52] ok [23:52] see ya ;) [23:52] we will be here [23:55] htorhello [23:55] hggdh: thank you a million times!! [23:55] now i am logged into my john account [23:55] thanks so much [23:59] another thing... why does a blank password corrupt the admin group account?