[01:59] <bkerensa> Can I have Bug #949578 marked as Wishlist
[01:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949578 in xorg-gtest "[MIR] xorg-gtest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949578
[02:01] <bkerensa> and Bug #949568 and Bug #949575
[02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949568 in gnome-session "Default GNOME fallback session should be "GNOME Classic (no effects)" (Metacity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949568
[02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949575 in gtest "Main inclusion request for libgtest-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949575
[09:08] <veger> bug #799460 is not being caused by akregator (kdepim), but by an other application of which I am not sure (nspluginviewer/firefox/???). What to do with this report? Just setting the kdepim status to invalid seems a bit harsh to me...
[09:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 799460 in kdepim "nspluginviewer crashes when attempting to display flash content in Akregator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799460
[19:08] <matthew-parlette> not sure if my last message went through:
[19:08] <matthew-parlette> hey all, I'm working on bug 950006, which appears to have all error messages included and I can't find any duplicates based on the error text, is there anything else I need to do on this before confirming it?
[19:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950006 in update-manager "Upgrade from oneiric to precise fails because of py3clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950006
[21:45] <bdmurray> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478714/bad%20bad%20bad%20very%20bad%20video.ogv
[21:45] <bdmurray> lol
[21:50] <yofel> nice one :D
[21:51] <mdeslaur> hehe
[22:50] <JohnNapster> hello
[22:51] <JohnNapster> there's a critical bug in ubuntu
[22:52] <bdmurray> do you mean one that isn't marked as critical?
[22:54] <JohnNapster> please listen
[22:55] <JohnNapster> if you set your admin account to hve a blank password, you will regret it for the rest of your life
[22:55] <JohnNapster> because you will not be able to log into your admin user account once you reboot your machine
[22:56] <JohnNapster> i tried EVERYTHING
[22:56] <hggdh> ? why not sudo?
[22:56] <JanC> I think the only bug there is that you could set an empty password
[22:56] <hggdh> by 'admin' I understand root
[22:56] <JohnNapster> nope
[22:57] <JohnNapster> by admin i mean an administrator account
[22:57] <JohnNapster> not root
[22:57] <hggdh> an account that is a member of the admin group, right?
[22:57] <JohnNapster> admin = administrator type account (not standard)
[22:57] <JohnNapster> yes
[22:57] <jalcine> You should be able to reset the password of the account using sudo though,
[22:57] <JohnNapster> like how ??
[22:57] <jalcine> if you have another account in the sudoers group.
[22:58] <JohnNapster> i don+t
[22:58] <hggdh> ok. One way out of this mess, right now, is to boot into recovery
[22:58] <JohnNapster> that's my problem
[22:58] <JanC> log in to the rescue console
[22:58] <JohnNapster> okay just tell me and i'll try at reboot
[22:58] <JanC> well, boot into the rescue console
[22:58] <JohnNapster> how?
[22:59] <JanC> JohnNapster: hold shift while booting, then choose the appropriate option in the boot menu
[22:59] <JohnNapster> please bare with me, i am really dumb :)
[22:59] <hggdh> (1) reboot; (2) hold the SHIFT key until you see the GRUB boot menu; (3) select recovery
[22:59] <JohnNapster> ok
[22:59] <hggdh> you will be put into a console
[23:00] <JohnNapster> then what should i do?
[23:00] <hggdh> as root. Then, you enter "passwd <your account>",
[23:00] <hggdh> where <your account> is the one you do not have a password
[23:00] <JohnNapster> just like that?
[23:00] <JanC> it will give you a menu, choose the root shell option
[23:01] <JohnNapster> so like   abc123 myaccountname   ??
[23:01] <hggdh> then you enter the new password. It is a VERY GOOD idea to make it the same you had before
[23:01] <JohnNapster> no sudo in front or some other command?
[23:01] <JanC> it gives you a root shell  ;)
[23:01] <JohnNapster> i see
[23:01] <hggdh> like 'passwd hggdh', where 'hggdh' is the account
[23:01] <JohnNapster> i see
[23:01] <hggdh> now
[23:02] <JohnNapster> okay now i get it... nw i have  question
[23:02] <JanC> and yes, you can disable/restrict that option in the grub boot menu  ;)
[23:02] <JohnNapster> why don't u block making a blank password?
[23:02] <hggdh> it is really NOT a very good idea to have an admin-capable account without password, EVEN if the machine is at home, in a safe
[23:02] <hggdh> because there are uses for it
[23:03] <JohnNapster> yeah, like if you anna break everything like i did
[23:03] <JanC> hggdh: I disagree that there are uses for 99.99% of users that use the GUI installer
[23:03] <hggdh> this is a bug, though: an account member of the admin group should NEVER be allowed not to have a password
[23:03] <JohnNapster> please inforce that
[23:04] <hggdh> JanC: I am not discussing the merit of password-less accounts ;-) I frankly do not see any reason for them, at all
[23:04] <JohnNapster> because otheerwise we experience nasty effects (like not being able to login to the admin type account)
[23:05] <hggdh> yes, this is an usage issue (user expectation). This should not be allowed
[23:05] <JohnNapster> if we set a blank password
[23:05] <JanC> hggdh: oh, I can see uses for them, but not for members of group admin in Ubuntu  ;)
[23:06] <hggdh> there is a thread, somewhere, about this. JohnNapster, what is your Ubuntu version?
[23:06]  * hggdh thinks this is a bit recent
[23:06] <JohnNapster> can you guys force the user not being able to set a blank password in the User Accounts section for the group admin accounts??
[23:06] <JohnNapster> my version is 11.10
[23:07] <hggdh> thanks. JohnNapster, I believe you have ways of pinging us here if you have an issue during the resetting of the password. Please holler if so
[23:08] <JohnNapster> i'll try your suggestion
[23:08] <JohnNapster> brb
[23:08] <hggdh> some sort of decision must be taken (either correcting the error you get when you try to 'sudo', or not allowing a password-less admin account)
[23:08] <JanC> JohnNapster: and please file a bug report about this
[23:08] <JohnNapster> oh and about that bug... are you gonna fix it?
[23:08] <JohnNapster> please ou do it
[23:08] <hggdh> if you open the bug, why, yes, we will :-)
[23:09] <JohnNapster> i am very limited on this machine
[23:09] <JohnNapster> someone ought to do this
[23:09] <JohnNapster> i can't, really
[23:09] <JohnNapster> hggdh: would you do the honors?
[23:10] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I will try to reproduce. If I can, I will (may be related to 11.10, only, and I will have to install it)
[23:11]  * hggdh thinks this sounds like a regression
[23:12] <JohnNapster> i can get into the recovery console by Ctl+Alt+F4
[23:13] <JohnNapster> i did what you said and it spitted out  command mypassword123   not found
[23:13] <JohnNapster> and then Alt+F7 to come back
[23:14] <JohnNapster> and yes, i was doing the thing u said as root
[23:15] <JohnNapster> root@Machine   mypassword123 myaccountname1234
[23:15] <JohnNapster> and it says  mypassword123: command not found
[23:16] <JohnNapster> anyother suggestion?
[23:17] <hggdh> passwd account
[23:18] <hggdh> passwd is the command
[23:18] <JohnNapster> oh
[23:18] <JohnNapster> silly me
[23:18] <hggdh> JohnNapster: let's say your account is named 'john'
[23:18] <JohnNapster> ok
[23:18] <hggdh> so you type in 'passwd john'
[23:18] <JohnNapster> oohh
[23:19] <JohnNapster> so you mean like  passwd john mysecretpassword123   ?
[23:19] <hggdh> and, again, it is a VERY good idea to set the password to what it was before
[23:19] <JohnNapster> ok, gotcha
[23:19] <hggdh> there are other parts of the desktop experience that will be happier this way
[23:23] <JohnNapster> they shouldn't be "happieer"
[23:23] <JohnNapster> they should adapt to the new password
[23:23] <JohnNapster> ubuntu is very broken in this regard
[23:23] <hggdh> they do. But you are outside the desktop, right now
[23:23] <JohnNapster> not really
[23:24] <hggdh> actually, Ubuntu (or Linux, in general) is not broken on this...
[23:24] <JohnNapster> i am in a guest account in firefox
[23:24] <JohnNapster> tring to get some help from ou guys
[23:24] <JohnNapster> tring
[23:24] <JohnNapster> god dammit :)
[23:24] <JohnNapster> trying*
[23:25] <hggdh> heh
[23:25] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I am confused. If you are under a guest account, how can you run the password change process?
[23:26] <JohnNapster> Ctrl+Alt+F4
[23:27] <hggdh> that would not really help, since you cannot login as root
[23:27] <JohnNapster> gets me into the console and then i get out by Alt+F7
[23:27] <JohnNapster> i can!
[23:27] <JohnNapster> i already did login as root that way
[23:28] <hggdh> so, so you CAN login as root. Did you change the password for your account?
[23:28] <JohnNapster> it didn't work
[23:28] <hggdh> please give us the exact command you executed, and the EXACT output
[23:29] <JohnNapster> ok let me retype
[23:30] <JohnNapster> too much to retype...
[23:30] <JohnNapster> it was like so...
[23:30] <JohnNapster> i typed   su
[23:30] <JohnNapster> and then i was root
[23:31] <hggdh> and?
[23:31] <JohnNapster> then i typed  passwd and pressed enter
[23:31] <hggdh> NOOOOOO
[23:31] <JohnNapster> it said   please type new UNIX password
[23:31] <hggdh> passwd <account>
[23:31] <JohnNapster> oh
[23:31] <hggdh> you most probably just changed the root password
[23:31] <JohnNapster> wait
[23:31] <JohnNapster> i did yeah
[23:32] <hggdh> better not forget it...
[23:33] <JohnNapster> okay now i did it
[23:33] <JohnNapster> let me try this baby
[23:38] <JohnNapster> my sincere condolences, but this does not work guys
[23:38] <JohnNapster> i am still not able to login to my admin group account
[23:38] <JohnNapster> i am logged in as guest
[23:39] <JohnNapster> and i can't even mount my usb key
[23:40] <hggdh> did you login with your account?
[23:40] <JohnNapster> yes
[23:40] <JohnNapster> but it threw me out
[23:41] <JohnNapster> i had no choice but to pick the Guest account at the Unity login
[23:41] <hggdh> what happened?
[23:41] <JohnNapster> or how it's called
[23:42] <JohnNapster> some text was displayed after i clicked on my account .... you know  where it says  blah blah blah[OK]
[23:43] <JohnNapster> and then it put me right back to the login screen
[23:43] <bdmurray> blah blah blah isn't very descriptive
[23:43] <hggdh> so we go back to resetting the password on your admin account
[23:43] <JohnNapster> my account (the admin group one) did not have the password field... just a button labeled Login
[23:44] <hggdh> which means it does not have a password
[23:44] <JohnNapster> bt i must hve
[23:44] <hggdh> I thought this was what we asked you to do
[23:44] <JohnNapster> i changed it
[23:44] <hggdh> let's do it again
[23:44] <JohnNapster> logged in as root, did the  passwd john password123
[23:44] <hggdh> no
[23:44] <hggdh> passwd john
[23:45] <JohnNapster> i mean passwd john
[23:45] <JohnNapster> yeah
[23:45] <hggdh> ok
[23:45] <JohnNapster> then when it asked i typed the password
[23:45] <hggdh> now STILL on the console, log out, and log in as john
[23:46] <JohnNapster> like type  exit  to get out of root ?
[23:46] <hggdh> yes, and get back to the console login
[23:46] <JohnNapster> like which console login?
[23:47] <hggdh> ctrl-alt-f1
[23:47] <JohnNapster> oh that one
[23:47] <JohnNapster> ok
[23:47] <JohnNapster> my machine name is Monk
[23:47] <JohnNapster> it says  Monk login
[23:48] <hggdh> yes
[23:48] <hggdh> now type in your account name
[23:48] <hggdh> then you will be prompted for a password, type the new password in
[23:49] <JohnNapster> you know what?
[23:49] <hggdh> shoot :-)
[23:49] <hggdh> it did not work...
[23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed    john  in there and i had to type my password
[23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed the one i set before
[23:49] <JohnNapster> it worked!
[23:49] <hggdh> heh
[23:49] <hggdh> OK
[23:50] <JohnNapster> but i still can't login to that account at the GUI level
[23:50] <JohnNapster> i am not even asked for password
[23:50] <JohnNapster> this is a terrible bug
[23:50] <hggdh> nope
[23:51] <JohnNapster> why did i make the account password blank, oh for the love of god why
[23:52] <JohnNapster> ok what do you propose now?
[23:52] <hggdh> as root, enter "sudo restart lightdm" <- you WILL lose your gueste session. Then login again, and come here again
[23:52] <JohnNapster> ok
[23:52] <JohnNapster> see ya ;)
[23:52] <hggdh> we will be here
[23:55] <JohnNapster_> htorhello
[23:55] <JohnNapster_> hggdh: thank you a million times!!
[23:55] <JohnNapster_> now i am logged into my   john account
[23:55] <JohnNapster_> thanks so much
[23:59] <JohnNapster_> another thing... why does a blank password corrupt the admin group account?