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quidnuncDoes libghc-libmpd-dev not exist on ubuntu?00:16
micahgquidnunc: apparently not00:17
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micahgdoesn't appear to be in debian either00:17
quidnuncmicahg: What about libghc-hlist-prof? That is in debian00:18
* quidnunc tries to figure out how cabal-debian creates control files00:19
micahgquidnunc: apparently not00:19
micahgI don't see that binary in Debian eitheer00:19
quidnuncmicahg: sid, http://packages.debian.org/hu/sid/libghc6-hlist-prof00:30
micahgquidnunc: it's an empty package pointing nowhere00:31
quidnuncmicahg: Yeah, but it breaks my package if it is not installable on Ubuntu00:33
micahgit was removed after natty and squeeze as obsolete00:34
quidnuncmicahg: Okay.00:35
quidnuncAnyone know how cabal-debian works?00:41
lifelessTINC00:50
CoreyI have a repository where git-buildpackage whines about not finding a source tarball no matter how I prod it-- the same git-buildpackage line works just fine in another git repository.  Where should I look next?05:40
Corey(Presuambly in the debian/ directory, but where?)05:41
alkisgHi, what should I do to avoid this error when requesting a recipe build? "Rejected: File ltsp_5.3.4+bzr2129~oneiric1.tar.gz already exists in PPA for Alkis Georgopoulos, but uploaded version has different contents. "06:09
alkisgI think that the recipe re-creates the orig.tar.gz from launchpad, and it uses a different timestamp, hence the problem, but I don't know how to avoid that.06:10
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vibhavHow Do I package a bash script ?06:34
vibhavalso, while building packges, is "make all" executed?06:56
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geservibhav: as a bash script doesn't need compiling, you can skip the building part in debian/rules (empty target) and go directly to installing it07:32
vibhavgeser: Does the rules have to be empty07:33
geserand it depends on your debian/rules if "make all" is executed or not. You might have to check if debhelper 9 calls it by default or not07:33
geservibhav: only the target for building07:33
vibhavgeser: Since I am a newbie at packaging, could you tell me the contents of the rules file?07:34
geserhow did you generate the skeleton files for you packaging? with dh_make?07:35
vibhavgeser: yeah07:35
geserthen you probably got a compact debian/rules file (just a few lines)07:36
vibhavyes07:36
vibhav%: dh $@07:37
geserfor your bash script you probably just need to edit debian/package.install and don't worry about debian/rules (the compiling part is a no op in your case)07:37
vibhavwhat should be the contents of package.install then?07:41
dholbachgood morning07:43
ajmitchmorning dholbach07:45
dholbachhi ajmitch07:45
broderdholbach: morning07:48
dholbachhey broder07:48
geservibhav: have you read the packaging guide? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/, more precisely http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/debian-dir-overview.html#the-install-file07:49
vibhavhi dholbach07:52
dholbachhi vibhav07:53
jokerdinodholbach: prep for tmrw.07:55
dholbachjokerdino, yes - I'm currently doing a g+ hangout07:55
dholbachlet's see how many people turn up :)07:55
vibhavwhats tomorrow?07:55
* ajmitch is tempted to join in07:55
jokerdinofix it friday07:55
vibhavoh07:56
dholbachhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev# if anyone is up for joining07:56
vibhavI forgot07:56
broderhmm, i should probably go to sleep instead of joining the hangout :)07:57
jokerdinoi think that is a good idea07:57
ajmitchI'd better not have my mic on, it didn't go well last time :)07:57
jokerdinoi have to install the voice plugin, hmm07:58
jokerdinoi am turning my cam and mic off07:58
vibhavits fix-it friday with video and voice?07:58
dholbachvibhav, no, it's more of a Q&A session07:59
vibhavok07:59
broderLaney, tumbleweed: you guys are generating recent entries in ubuntu_upload_history from lplib, right? is there a reason you guys don't include the lp id?08:01
ajmitchdholbach: tough crowd :)08:03
broderoh hmm, i'm guessing based on the file column that you're getting it from the mbox08:03
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jokerdinoyuck, network too slow08:10
jokerdinoi am feeling that this g+ hangout is not working out too well for me08:10
ajmitchapart from a few sound issues, it seems to be working for me08:11
jokerdinoWe're sorry, the hangout looks to be jam-packed already. There's no more room!08:11
jokerdino:(08:11
ajmitchmaxed at 10 people?08:11
jokerdinolooks like it08:12
FourDollarsout of space.08:12
FourDollarsHope Google can add more space in the future.08:12
ajmitchok, I'll step out, next in queue can join08:13
ajmitchI'd hoped that the limit was higher than 10 these days08:13
broderi thought you could do 2008:13
broderbut i guess not08:14
ajmitchbetter to let people in who want to learn stuff :)08:14
broderwe're actually down to 8 now08:14
ajmitchok08:14
* jokerdino gives up and gets to do something else.08:15
ajmitchjokerdino: sorry it didn't work out, we can still help on irc if you have questions08:16
jokerdinothe network here has some stability issues.08:17
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dholbachthanks broder09:00
brodernp :)09:00
ajmitchdholbach: how'd the hangout go?09:00
dholbachthe good thing is - this is a fixed name hangout09:00
ajmitchbad thing is, 10 people max09:00
dholbachso we can always just use it and use the same url09:00
dholbachyes, we need to find a way to fix it - I'll investigate what we can do there :)09:00
dholbachI was constantly muting people, which I didn't want to do - I would have enjoyed everyone to speak upg09:01
dholbachup09:01
ajmitchsorry I didn't stick around to be put on the spot by you ;)09:01
dholbachbut it would have been too time-consuming to fix everyone's mic problems :)09:01
dholbachhaha09:01
broderajmitch: ha! way to leave all of those for me :-P09:01
dholbachbroder did a great job :)09:01
ajmitchbroder: I'm glad you were there :)09:01
dholbachso yeah it was fun - I hope we see a lot of the folks again :)09:01
* broder has lots of experience making things up on the spot :-P09:02
ajmitchheh09:02
ajmitchI'll try & make it to another one if it's at the same time09:02
ajmitchassuming you want to make it a regular thing09:02
broderi will try harder to be asleep next time09:03
ajmitchheh09:03
dholbachhaha, thanks again broder and ajmitch09:03
dholbachmaybe it's http://google-plus.com/3587/google-hangouts-on-air-a-live-broadcast-feature-with-recording-to-youtube-launched-for-some-users/ we want09:03
ajmitchdon't thank me, I just showed up briefly :)09:03
* ajmitch had just finished another meeting on irc09:03
* plustwo really enjoy the hangout session. 09:03
dholbachhey plustwo - good to see you here :)09:04
plustwo:-)09:04
ajmitchdholbach: I think jono used that recently09:04
dholbachyeah - I never used it yet - I will investigate09:04
ajmitchdholbach: you probably qualify under 'large numbers of followers' :)09:05
dholbachhm, the problem with "hangout on air" is that there's no live-chat AFAICS09:05
ajmitchmight be able to still use IRC if people are willing09:06
dholbachajmitch, no - I don't think I have the rockstar genes09:06
ajmitchhah09:06
ajmitchyou have that & more09:06
ajmitchisn't there a dholbach fanclub on launchpad?09:06
dholbachhaha09:06
* jalcine confirms ajmitch's suspicions, lol.09:07
jalcineI remember having to extend my membership.09:07
dholbachhey jalcine09:07
dholbachI think I'll try to prepare a number of key points I want to mention and a few bug fixing examples for the next hangout09:07
ajmitchwhat did you cover in this one?09:08
jalcineo/09:08
ajmitchI didn't get to see much09:08
broderspelling errors! :)09:08
ajmitchnice09:08
broderthat's officially my new favorite task for new contributors09:08
* ajmitch needs a faster SSD & more RAM09:08
ajmitchfirefox is going a bit slow while dist-upgrading09:09
ajmitchlooks like I'm 7GB deep in swap, that won't help ;)09:09
dholbachbroder, that was a great idea09:09
dholbachbroder, what we can't find in bugs on our todo lists, we'll fill up with speling mistakes :)09:10
broderdholbach: i'm sure there are some other tags that are accessible, not sure what they are though09:10
ajmitchI'm sure there are *plenty* of bugs in precise still09:10
ajmitchit's just a matter of finding which are most important to tackle first09:10
dholbachmaybe we can just reuse last time's etherpad and add a bunch of things on there09:11
dholbachand it's still in the topic, great :)09:11
broderajmitch: i like the spelling errors (spelling-error-in-description in particular) because you can focus entirely on the process - how to write a changelog entry, how to forward a patch to debian09:11
broderthen you can move onto other more advanced things once you've got those basics down09:12
ajmitchbroder: that is helpful09:12
broderyou can even do it incrementally - once you've done something from spelling-error-in-description, you can do spelling-error-in-binary and learn how to use quilt09:12
dholbachbroder, we should probably talk to barry about PackagingGuide/Python09:13
broderdholbach: hmm, he's probably not going to be around much this week because of pycon09:13
dholbachah yes of course09:14
ajmitchpycon would be a fun distraction09:15
jokerdinow00t, i am back.09:26
jokerdinojust finished replying to Andrew something09:26
DktrKranzbroder: which kind of change in dak?10:21
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=== mitya57 changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: REVU is back up | Precise: Feature Freeze | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://bit.ly/fz6AyQ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | Fix-It Friday: http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o
mitya57sorry, i hope i didn't change it actually12:16
jokerdinodholbach: i am kinda free for some time, do you want to identify easy to fix bugs now?12:56
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dholbachjokerdino, sorry I was just at lunch - I'm going to be a bit busy with a few other things right now - if you want you could add a few things to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o13:25
dholbachmaybe from the rcbugs or resolved_upstream lits13:25
dholbachlist13:25
jokerdinoi was looking at the harvest13:36
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dholbachjokerdino, sure, wherever the opportunities come from... if they're easy, we want them on the list :-D13:46
jokerdinoi will go through them and put it on the pad. :)13:50
highvoltageif I add a lubuntu theme to the ldm-themes package, would I need a UIFe for it? it doesn't have much impact on anything since it's just an additional, optional theme.14:07
tumbleweedbroder: none I know of14:28
Laneyit was originally just what was in the changes emails, we just never thought to do it14:29
Laneyhighvoltage: should be ok14:30
tumbleweedyeah14:30
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dholbachalright, who wants to help add a few simple tasks to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o for tomorrow?15:00
jokerdinowell, just got to add them.15:02
jokerdinoadded one so far.15:02
vibhavdholbach: me15:13
vibhavill mainly fix "Needs Packaging" bugs15:13
dholbachvibhav, that's great - but maybe more of a target for 12.10 - now that we're so far in the release cycle there will be more people fixing bugs than packaging/reviewing new stuff15:15
dholbachbut don't let that discourage you :)15:16
vibhavIll fix bugs fixed in upstream then15:16
vibhavOr review some patches15:16
vibhavdholbach: I dont know how to fix bugs, how can I help?15:16
dholbachI would recommend to check the docs about bug fixing again and maybe just for now fix a few typo bugs according to the instructions15:17
dholbachthat might sound a bit dull, but I think it's a good start to get used to things15:17
vibhavtypo bugs like?15:17
jokerdinovibhav: typo bugs like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/93640315:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 936403 in software-center (Ubuntu) "There is a typo in Ubuntu Software Center strings. (DVD drive)" [Low,Fix released]15:19
jokerdinonot much right now, unfortunately.15:19
jokerdinoi am trying to find some more easy to fix bugs, i will get them set up for tmrw15:20
vibhavI see15:20
vibhavIve found 2 typo bugs till now15:26
jokerdinoand?15:26
vibhavwill try to fix them tomorrow15:27
jokerdinoyeah, good luck15:28
vibhavthanks15:29
dholbachhttp://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/spelling-error-in-description.html and http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/spelling-error-in-binary.html might be interesting15:29
dholbachsometimes it will be more suitable to submit those fixes upstream or in debian though15:29
vibhavBut , then can I put those as contributions i the Etherpad?15:31
vibhavin*15:31
jokerdinodholbach: i received an email from Andrewsomething regarding developer experience, how do you guys track me down ?\15:32
dholbachjokerdino, https://launchpad.net/~jokerdino/+related-software knows about your great work :)15:33
jokerdinodear lord15:33
dholbachmh?15:34
jokerdinoi didn't know such a page existed15:34
dholbachalso all uploads are announced on the <release>-changes mailing lists15:35
jokerdinoyeah, i am subscribed to that mailing list.15:35
dholbachie https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-March/thread.html15:35
dholbachcool :)15:36
jokerdinooh wait, that solves the puzzle15:36
dholbachjokerdino, good work15:36
jokerdinohah thanks again.15:36
dholbachalright, I just added a couple of easy tasks to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o for tomorrow - it'd be nice if some of you would help adding a few more15:49
dholbachanyone interested in joining the ubuntu dev hangout? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev#16:10
vibhavI certainly could but my webcam is broken :(16:10
dholbachyou can still join :)16:11
vibhavill certainly try then16:12
dholbachbroder, I managed to pick a bunch of things off the resolved-upstream list for tomorrow16:57
dholbachif you look past the desktop related ones, there's a lot of good stuff in there16:57
dholbachI will have to run to get a train in a bit, but whatever you (and others) can't add to the pad, I will try to add tomorrow morning16:58
brodercool16:58
jtaylorhow likely are upgrade failures due to missing pre-depends for xz?18:07
jtaylorare they needed for universe packages? or will it be handled by the existing pre-depends in the main packages?18:07
micahgjtaylor: it's an archive level check, any package using binary xz packages needs the pre-depends in precise and earlier18:11
jtayloris there an existing list of universe packages in need of fixing?18:12
broderi think they're automatically rejected by lp18:12
jtaylorno18:12
broderhttp://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/data.tar.xz-member-without-dpkg-pre-depends.html18:12
jtayloror maybe yes18:13
jtaylorI just checked the package I noted before and I must have overlooked the pre-depends there18:13
CoreyI have a repository where git-buildpackage whines about not finding a source tarball no matter how I prod it-- the same git-buildpackage line works just fine in another git repository.  Where should I look next?  (Presumably in the debian directory, but where?)19:22
jtaylorhave you checked the tags and the pristine tar branch?19:25
jtaylorworst case put a tarball in ../ or ../tarballs19:25
Coreyjtaylor: Do I need to actually push a pristine-tar branch to upstream? I'm not quite clear on the concept. :-)19:27
jtaylorto upstream?19:27
CoreyI've built both git trees, and both packages-- one works, one doesn't same exact command line on both.19:27
Coreyjtaylor: The git project in question lives on github, or in this case upstream / origin.19:28
jtayloryou should push the pristine branch to the origin19:28
CoreyThe end result I'm striving for is "every git commit causes Jenkins to build a new deb, versioned with the git hash"19:29
jtaylorbut if its there locally that won'T help with the problem19:29
Coreyjtaylor: And how does pristine-tar relate to master?19:29
jtaylornot at all, it contains information to construct the original tarball from the upstream branch19:29
jtaylorupstream != origin19:30
Coreyjtaylor: Okay, perhaps a better question-- what lives in pristine-tar? :-)19:30
jtaylorgit-import-orig --pristine should create pristine-tar and upstream branch19:30
jtaylora delta file and an id per version19:30
CoreyUsage: git-import-orig [-u version] /path/to/upstream-version.tar.gz <-- so I need to create that by hand for the first time?19:31
jtayloryes without a tarball no pristine-tar19:32
CoreyHmm.19:36
CoreyI think I'm in a cart-before-horse situation.19:36
Coreyhttp://lpenz.github.com/articles/debgit/index.html seems to explain the workflow.19:39
CoreyThere's no make-dist.  I should fix that.19:41
dupondjeHmz, any idea on a command/function to get the type of a partition ?20:32
Zhenechfile20:34
Zhenechlike `sudo file -s /dev/sda1` @ dupondje20:35
Zhenechor do you mean type as in whats written in the parition table?20:35
Zhenechthen `sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda`20:36
dupondjeZhenech: need indeed the partition table type20:40
dupondjebut depending on fdisk is bit annoying no ? :)20:41
dupondjeto just read the partition type20:41

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