[00:16] <quidnunc> Does libghc-libmpd-dev not exist on ubuntu?
[00:17] <micahg> quidnunc: apparently not
[00:17] <micahg> doesn't appear to be in debian either
[00:18] <quidnunc> micahg: What about libghc-hlist-prof? That is in debian
[00:19]  * quidnunc tries to figure out how cabal-debian creates control files
[00:19] <micahg> quidnunc: apparently not
[00:19] <micahg> I don't see that binary in Debian eitheer
[00:30] <quidnunc> micahg: sid, http://packages.debian.org/hu/sid/libghc6-hlist-prof
[00:31] <micahg> quidnunc: it's an empty package pointing nowhere
[00:33] <quidnunc> micahg: Yeah, but it breaks my package if it is not installable on Ubuntu
[00:34] <micahg> it was removed after natty and squeeze as obsolete
[00:35] <quidnunc> micahg: Okay.
[00:41] <quidnunc> Anyone know how cabal-debian works?
[00:50] <lifeless> TINC
[05:40] <Corey> I have a repository where git-buildpackage whines about not finding a source tarball no matter how I prod it-- the same git-buildpackage line works just fine in another git repository.  Where should I look next?
[05:41] <Corey> (Presuambly in the debian/ directory, but where?)
[06:09] <alkisg> Hi, what should I do to avoid this error when requesting a recipe build? "Rejected: File ltsp_5.3.4+bzr2129~oneiric1.tar.gz already exists in PPA for Alkis Georgopoulos, but uploaded version has different contents. "
[06:10] <alkisg> I think that the recipe re-creates the orig.tar.gz from launchpad, and it uses a different timestamp, hence the problem, but I don't know how to avoid that.
[06:34] <vibhav> How Do I package a bash script ?
[06:56] <vibhav> also, while building packges, is "make all" executed?
[07:32] <geser> vibhav: as a bash script doesn't need compiling, you can skip the building part in debian/rules (empty target) and go directly to installing it
[07:33] <vibhav> geser: Does the rules have to be empty
[07:33] <geser> and it depends on your debian/rules if "make all" is executed or not. You might have to check if debhelper 9 calls it by default or not
[07:33] <geser> vibhav: only the target for building
[07:34] <vibhav> geser: Since I am a newbie at packaging, could you tell me the contents of the rules file?
[07:35] <geser> how did you generate the skeleton files for you packaging? with dh_make?
[07:35] <vibhav> geser: yeah
[07:36] <geser> then you probably got a compact debian/rules file (just a few lines)
[07:36] <vibhav> yes
[07:37] <vibhav> %: dh $@
[07:37] <geser> for your bash script you probably just need to edit debian/package.install and don't worry about debian/rules (the compiling part is a no op in your case)
[07:41] <vibhav> what should be the contents of package.install then?
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[07:45] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[07:48] <broder> dholbach: morning
[07:48] <dholbach> hey broder
[07:49] <geser> vibhav: have you read the packaging guide? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/, more precisely http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/debian-dir-overview.html#the-install-file
[07:52] <vibhav> hi dholbach
[07:53] <dholbach> hi vibhav
[07:55] <jokerdino> dholbach: prep for tmrw.
[07:55] <dholbach> jokerdino, yes - I'm currently doing a g+ hangout
[07:55] <dholbach> let's see how many people turn up :)
[07:55] <vibhav> whats tomorrow?
[07:55]  * ajmitch is tempted to join in
[07:55] <jokerdino> fix it friday
[07:56] <vibhav> oh
[07:56] <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev# if anyone is up for joining
[07:56] <vibhav> I forgot
[07:57] <broder> hmm, i should probably go to sleep instead of joining the hangout :)
[07:57] <jokerdino> i think that is a good idea
[07:57] <ajmitch> I'd better not have my mic on, it didn't go well last time :)
[07:58] <jokerdino> i have to install the voice plugin, hmm
[07:58] <jokerdino> i am turning my cam and mic off
[07:58] <vibhav> its fix-it friday with video and voice?
[07:59] <dholbach> vibhav, no, it's more of a Q&A session
[07:59] <vibhav> ok
[08:01] <broder> Laney, tumbleweed: you guys are generating recent entries in ubuntu_upload_history from lplib, right? is there a reason you guys don't include the lp id?
[08:03] <ajmitch> dholbach: tough crowd :)
[08:03] <broder> oh hmm, i'm guessing based on the file column that you're getting it from the mbox
[08:10] <jokerdino> yuck, network too slow
[08:10] <jokerdino> i am feeling that this g+ hangout is not working out too well for me
[08:11] <ajmitch> apart from a few sound issues, it seems to be working for me
[08:11] <jokerdino> We're sorry, the hangout looks to be jam-packed already. There's no more room!
[08:11] <jokerdino> :(
[08:11] <ajmitch> maxed at 10 people?
[08:12] <jokerdino> looks like it
[08:12] <FourDollars> out of space.
[08:12] <FourDollars> Hope Google can add more space in the future.
[08:13] <ajmitch> ok, I'll step out, next in queue can join
[08:13] <ajmitch> I'd hoped that the limit was higher than 10 these days
[08:13] <broder> i thought you could do 20
[08:14] <broder> but i guess not
[08:14] <ajmitch> better to let people in who want to learn stuff :)
[08:14] <broder> we're actually down to 8 now
[08:14] <ajmitch> ok
[08:15]  * jokerdino gives up and gets to do something else.
[08:16] <ajmitch> jokerdino: sorry it didn't work out, we can still help on irc if you have questions
[08:17] <jokerdino> the network here has some stability issues.
[09:00] <dholbach> thanks broder
[09:00] <broder> np :)
[09:00] <ajmitch> dholbach: how'd the hangout go?
[09:00] <dholbach> the good thing is - this is a fixed name hangout
[09:00] <ajmitch> bad thing is, 10 people max
[09:00] <dholbach> so we can always just use it and use the same url
[09:00] <dholbach> yes, we need to find a way to fix it - I'll investigate what we can do there :)
[09:01] <dholbach> I was constantly muting people, which I didn't want to do - I would have enjoyed everyone to speak upg
[09:01] <dholbach> up
[09:01] <ajmitch> sorry I didn't stick around to be put on the spot by you ;)
[09:01] <dholbach> but it would have been too time-consuming to fix everyone's mic problems :)
[09:01] <dholbach> haha
[09:01] <broder> ajmitch: ha! way to leave all of those for me :-P
[09:01] <dholbach> broder did a great job :)
[09:01] <ajmitch> broder: I'm glad you were there :)
[09:01] <dholbach> so yeah it was fun - I hope we see a lot of the folks again :)
[09:02]  * broder has lots of experience making things up on the spot :-P
[09:02] <ajmitch> heh
[09:02] <ajmitch> I'll try & make it to another one if it's at the same time
[09:02] <ajmitch> assuming you want to make it a regular thing
[09:03] <broder> i will try harder to be asleep next time
[09:03] <ajmitch> heh
[09:03] <dholbach> haha, thanks again broder and ajmitch
[09:03] <dholbach> maybe it's http://google-plus.com/3587/google-hangouts-on-air-a-live-broadcast-feature-with-recording-to-youtube-launched-for-some-users/ we want
[09:03] <ajmitch> don't thank me, I just showed up briefly :)
[09:03]  * ajmitch had just finished another meeting on irc
[09:03]  * plustwo really enjoy the hangout session. 
[09:04] <dholbach> hey plustwo - good to see you here :)
[09:04] <plustwo> :-)
[09:04] <ajmitch> dholbach: I think jono used that recently
[09:04] <dholbach> yeah - I never used it yet - I will investigate
[09:05] <ajmitch> dholbach: you probably qualify under 'large numbers of followers' :)
[09:05] <dholbach> hm, the problem with "hangout on air" is that there's no live-chat AFAICS
[09:06] <ajmitch> might be able to still use IRC if people are willing
[09:06] <dholbach> ajmitch, no - I don't think I have the rockstar genes
[09:06] <ajmitch> hah
[09:06] <ajmitch> you have that & more
[09:06] <ajmitch> isn't there a dholbach fanclub on launchpad?
[09:06] <dholbach> haha
[09:07]  * jalcine confirms ajmitch's suspicions, lol.
[09:07] <jalcine> I remember having to extend my membership.
[09:07] <dholbach> hey jalcine
[09:07] <dholbach> I think I'll try to prepare a number of key points I want to mention and a few bug fixing examples for the next hangout
[09:08] <ajmitch> what did you cover in this one?
[09:08] <jalcine> o/
[09:08] <ajmitch> I didn't get to see much
[09:08] <broder> spelling errors! :)
[09:08] <ajmitch> nice
[09:08] <broder> that's officially my new favorite task for new contributors
[09:08]  * ajmitch needs a faster SSD & more RAM
[09:09] <ajmitch> firefox is going a bit slow while dist-upgrading
[09:09] <ajmitch> looks like I'm 7GB deep in swap, that won't help ;)
[09:09] <dholbach> broder, that was a great idea
[09:10] <dholbach> broder, what we can't find in bugs on our todo lists, we'll fill up with speling mistakes :)
[09:10] <broder> dholbach: i'm sure there are some other tags that are accessible, not sure what they are though
[09:10] <ajmitch> I'm sure there are *plenty* of bugs in precise still
[09:10] <ajmitch> it's just a matter of finding which are most important to tackle first
[09:11] <dholbach> maybe we can just reuse last time's etherpad and add a bunch of things on there
[09:11] <dholbach> and it's still in the topic, great :)
[09:11] <broder> ajmitch: i like the spelling errors (spelling-error-in-description in particular) because you can focus entirely on the process - how to write a changelog entry, how to forward a patch to debian
[09:12] <broder> then you can move onto other more advanced things once you've got those basics down
[09:12] <ajmitch> broder: that is helpful
[09:12] <broder> you can even do it incrementally - once you've done something from spelling-error-in-description, you can do spelling-error-in-binary and learn how to use quilt
[09:13] <dholbach> broder, we should probably talk to barry about PackagingGuide/Python
[09:13] <broder> dholbach: hmm, he's probably not going to be around much this week because of pycon
[09:14] <dholbach> ah yes of course
[09:15] <ajmitch> pycon would be a fun distraction
[09:26] <jokerdino> w00t, i am back.
[09:26] <jokerdino> just finished replying to Andrew something
[10:21] <DktrKranz> broder: which kind of change in dak?
[12:16] <mitya57> sorry, i hope i didn't change it actually
[12:56] <jokerdino> dholbach: i am kinda free for some time, do you want to identify easy to fix bugs now?
[13:25] <dholbach> jokerdino, sorry I was just at lunch - I'm going to be a bit busy with a few other things right now - if you want you could add a few things to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o
[13:25] <dholbach> maybe from the rcbugs or resolved_upstream lits
[13:25] <dholbach> list
[13:36] <jokerdino> i was looking at the harvest
[13:46] <dholbach> jokerdino, sure, wherever the opportunities come from... if they're easy, we want them on the list :-D
[13:50] <jokerdino> i will go through them and put it on the pad. :)
[14:07] <highvoltage> if I add a lubuntu theme to the ldm-themes package, would I need a UIFe for it? it doesn't have much impact on anything since it's just an additional, optional theme.
[14:28] <tumbleweed> broder: none I know of
[14:29] <Laney> it was originally just what was in the changes emails, we just never thought to do it
[14:30] <Laney> highvoltage: should be ok
[14:30] <tumbleweed> yeah
[15:00] <dholbach> alright, who wants to help add a few simple tasks to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o for tomorrow?
[15:02] <jokerdino> well, just got to add them.
[15:02] <jokerdino> added one so far.
[15:13] <vibhav> dholbach: me
[15:13] <vibhav> ill mainly fix "Needs Packaging" bugs
[15:15] <dholbach> vibhav, that's great - but maybe more of a target for 12.10 - now that we're so far in the release cycle there will be more people fixing bugs than packaging/reviewing new stuff
[15:16] <dholbach> but don't let that discourage you :)
[15:16] <vibhav> Ill fix bugs fixed in upstream then
[15:16] <vibhav> Or review some patches
[15:16] <vibhav> dholbach: I dont know how to fix bugs, how can I help?
[15:17] <dholbach> I would recommend to check the docs about bug fixing again and maybe just for now fix a few typo bugs according to the instructions
[15:17] <dholbach> that might sound a bit dull, but I think it's a good start to get used to things
[15:17] <vibhav> typo bugs like?
[15:19] <jokerdino> vibhav: typo bugs like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/936403
[15:19] <jokerdino> not much right now, unfortunately.
[15:20] <jokerdino> i am trying to find some more easy to fix bugs, i will get them set up for tmrw
[15:20] <vibhav> I see
[15:26] <vibhav> Ive found 2 typo bugs till now
[15:26] <jokerdino> and?
[15:27] <vibhav> will try to fix them tomorrow
[15:28] <jokerdino> yeah, good luck
[15:29] <vibhav> thanks
[15:29] <dholbach> http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/spelling-error-in-description.html and http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/spelling-error-in-binary.html might be interesting
[15:29] <dholbach> sometimes it will be more suitable to submit those fixes upstream or in debian though
[15:31] <vibhav> But , then can I put those as contributions i the Etherpad?
[15:31] <vibhav> in*
[15:32] <jokerdino> dholbach: i received an email from Andrewsomething regarding developer experience, how do you guys track me down ?\
[15:33] <dholbach> jokerdino, https://launchpad.net/~jokerdino/+related-software knows about your great work :)
[15:33] <jokerdino> dear lord
[15:34] <dholbach> mh?
[15:34] <jokerdino> i didn't know such a page existed
[15:35] <dholbach> also all uploads are announced on the <release>-changes mailing lists
[15:35] <jokerdino> yeah, i am subscribed to that mailing list.
[15:35] <dholbach> ie https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-March/thread.html
[15:36] <dholbach> cool :)
[15:36] <jokerdino> oh wait, that solves the puzzle
[15:36] <dholbach> jokerdino, good work
[15:36] <jokerdino> hah thanks again.
[15:49] <dholbach> alright, I just added a couple of easy tasks to http://pad.ubuntu.com/OsSL8mOs2o for tomorrow - it'd be nice if some of you would help adding a few more
[16:10] <dholbach> anyone interested in joining the ubuntu dev hangout? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev#
[16:10] <vibhav> I certainly could but my webcam is broken :(
[16:11] <dholbach> you can still join :)
[16:12] <vibhav> ill certainly try then
[16:57] <dholbach> broder, I managed to pick a bunch of things off the resolved-upstream list for tomorrow
[16:57] <dholbach> if you look past the desktop related ones, there's a lot of good stuff in there
[16:58] <dholbach> I will have to run to get a train in a bit, but whatever you (and others) can't add to the pad, I will try to add tomorrow morning
[16:58] <broder> cool
[18:07] <jtaylor> how likely are upgrade failures due to missing pre-depends for xz?
[18:07] <jtaylor> are they needed for universe packages? or will it be handled by the existing pre-depends in the main packages?
[18:11] <micahg> jtaylor: it's an archive level check, any package using binary xz packages needs the pre-depends in precise and earlier
[18:12] <jtaylor> is there an existing list of universe packages in need of fixing?
[18:12] <broder> i think they're automatically rejected by lp
[18:12] <jtaylor> no
[18:12] <broder> http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/data.tar.xz-member-without-dpkg-pre-depends.html
[18:13] <jtaylor> or maybe yes
[18:13] <jtaylor> I just checked the package I noted before and I must have overlooked the pre-depends there
[19:22] <Corey> I have a repository where git-buildpackage whines about not finding a source tarball no matter how I prod it-- the same git-buildpackage line works just fine in another git repository.  Where should I look next?  (Presumably in the debian directory, but where?)
[19:25] <jtaylor> have you checked the tags and the pristine tar branch?
[19:25] <jtaylor> worst case put a tarball in ../ or ../tarballs
[19:27] <Corey> jtaylor: Do I need to actually push a pristine-tar branch to upstream? I'm not quite clear on the concept. :-)
[19:27] <jtaylor> to upstream?
[19:27] <Corey> I've built both git trees, and both packages-- one works, one doesn't same exact command line on both.
[19:28] <Corey> jtaylor: The git project in question lives on github, or in this case upstream / origin.
[19:28] <jtaylor> you should push the pristine branch to the origin
[19:29] <Corey> The end result I'm striving for is "every git commit causes Jenkins to build a new deb, versioned with the git hash"
[19:29] <jtaylor> but if its there locally that won'T help with the problem
[19:29] <Corey> jtaylor: And how does pristine-tar relate to master?
[19:29] <jtaylor> not at all, it contains information to construct the original tarball from the upstream branch
[19:30] <jtaylor> upstream != origin
[19:30] <Corey> jtaylor: Okay, perhaps a better question-- what lives in pristine-tar? :-)
[19:30] <jtaylor> git-import-orig --pristine should create pristine-tar and upstream branch
[19:30] <jtaylor> a delta file and an id per version
[19:31] <Corey> Usage: git-import-orig [-u version] /path/to/upstream-version.tar.gz <-- so I need to create that by hand for the first time?
[19:32] <jtaylor> yes without a tarball no pristine-tar
[19:36] <Corey> Hmm.
[19:36] <Corey> I think I'm in a cart-before-horse situation.
[19:39] <Corey> http://lpenz.github.com/articles/debgit/index.html seems to explain the workflow.
[19:41] <Corey> There's no make-dist.  I should fix that.
[20:32] <dupondje> Hmz, any idea on a command/function to get the type of a partition ?
[20:34] <Zhenech> file
[20:35] <Zhenech> like `sudo file -s /dev/sda1` @ dupondje
[20:35] <Zhenech> or do you mean type as in whats written in the parition table?
[20:36] <Zhenech> then `sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda`
[20:40] <dupondje> Zhenech: need indeed the partition table type
[20:41] <dupondje> but depending on fdisk is bit annoying no ? :)
[20:41] <dupondje> to just read the partition type