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GrueMasterYea, I filed the bacula bug.  apparently, only x86_64 is correct.  ldd fails to find libmysqlclient.so on i386, armel, and armhf, possibly ppc as well.00:18
SpamapSGrueMaster: should be looking for libmysqlclient.so.1800:40
GrueMasterYes, it should.00:40
SpamapSthe way bacula supports multiple db backends is kind of silly I think00:41
GrueMaster(see the bug report for the gory details).00:41
SpamapSthey should have figured out dlopen() years ago00:41
GrueMasterIt looks like we made a half hearted attempt to fix multilib issues in 5.2.5-0ubuntu1 by adding the path for mysql lib64.  I say half-hearted as the patch failed to add support for any other arch.00:45
SpamapSGrueMaster: *DOH*00:45
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uvirtbotNew bug: #949608 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94960802:56
nOStahlhi guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my first raid setup. raid103:32
nOStahlit gets to partition area and asks for iscsi stuff?03:32
twbnOStahl: md or fakeraid03:32
nOStahlI setup the raid in bios03:32
nOStahlnot sure what md stands for03:32
nOStahlk I'm at screen now says ! detect disks / one or more drives container serial at a raid configurations have been found, do you wish to activate these Raid devices?03:33
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twbnOStahl: do not set up raid in the bios03:34
nOStahlwhy not03:34
twbnOStahl: because it is fakeraid03:34
nOStahlok so go back into bios and blow away the raid stuff03:37
twbYes03:37
nOStahlthen restart the installer?03:37
twbset it back to AHCI03:37
twbalways set it to AHCI not hybrid or traditional or raid03:38
nOStahllearning something new everyday :)03:38
nOStahlit has option for SATA EMULATION legacy mode IDE or Native Mode IDE03:38
nOStahlin my bios03:38
nOStahlor RAID03:38
nOStahlits an hp dc5750 microtower03:39
twbHow old is this box?  Several years?03:39
nOStahl200603:39
nOStahli'd say03:39
twbprobably predates AHCI03:39
twbTry native mode03:40
nOStahlnoticed the bios for it is up to 2.36 and its running 2.2503:40
twbI am usually pretty wary of firmware upgrades03:42
twbI tend to avoid upgrades unless there's a problem you KNOW it will fix03:42
nOStahlaye I don't like chancing a brick03:42
twbs/know/are reasonably confident/03:42
nOStahlalmost back to partition area03:43
nOStahlso it will let me setup the raid1 here soon?03:46
nOStahlk it is asking me again if I want to activate serial at a raid devices03:47
qman___you do not03:48
qman___though you may have to zero the disks to fix this problem, I ran into it03:48
qman___even though I said no, it detected and assembled anyway03:48
qman___and screwed everything up03:48
nOStahlk03:48
nOStahlso now at partition disks screen03:49
nOStahlguided - use entire disk or guided - use entire disk and setup lvm etc03:49
nOStahlor manual03:49
qman___if you want raid you want manual03:49
nOStahlk03:49
nOStahlso at screen now showing the two 1.5 terabyte hard drives03:49
qman___to do md raid, you have to create partitions of type 'volume for RAID' on each disk, then create the raid, then create partitions on the raid03:50
qman___you may want to create a /boot or swap area outside of the raid on the bare disks, though03:50
nOStahlhrmm03:51
nOStahli am setting this tower up as a cloud controller / storage controller03:51
nOStahlwith two dell optiplex 760 towers as nodes03:52
nOStahlso this box will be serving the images for the instances etc.03:52
nOStahlok so I need to setup how large of a partition for /boot03:59
nOStahlqman___: the wiki does not say to select volume for RAID it says to partition each drive as normal and then go back and select configure software raid04:04
nOStahldoes that sound right?04:04
twbqman___: yes, easiest solution is to write zeros to the first and last ~16MB of disk04:05
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roaksoaxda/win 604:43
twbroaksoax: ENOCHAN04:53
roaksoaxlol04:59
linociscomy ubuntu squid server with two NIC doest not work05:15
linociscohi all05:15
linociscomy squid ubuntu server with two NIC doest work. one is for wan IP and one is LAN05:16
linociscomy squid ubuntu server with two NIC does not work. one is for wan IP and one is LAN05:16
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Anaphaxetonhello. i need that a couple of packaged be of newr version07:45
Anaphaxetonwhat could i do? add mirrors for later versions of ubuntu? i am on LTS07:45
Anaphaxetonalso i found out there is some update-manager?07:58
Anaphaxetonis  there hope i can update the server without formatting?08:01
RoyKAnaphaxeton: do-release-upgrade08:11
AnaphaxetonNo new release found08:12
RoyKAnaphaxeton: that'll upgrade the release to whatever's next, or to the next LTS if running an LTS, that is, if running 10.04, it won't do much, since 12.04 isn't released08:12
Anaphaxeton:(08:12
Anaphaxetonok08:12
RoyKAnaphaxeton: running lucid?08:12
Anaphaxetonis lucid 10.04?08:12
RoyKif so, you can choose to upgrade to a 'normal' release (default is next LTS release)08:12
RoyKyes08:12
Anaphaxetoni used the -d flag08:13
RoyKif you want to upgrade to 10.10, change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set prompt=normal08:13
RoyKerm...08:13
RoyKthat'll upgrade to 12.04 *beta*08:13
RoyKwhich may not be a good idea08:13
Anaphaxetonyes08:13
Anaphaxetonmaybe08:13
RoyKbut it's up to you ;)08:14
Anaphaxetonhowever i am not using it for exotic stuff08:14
RoyKthen it'll probably work08:14
Anaphaxetona simple home server for irc logging and torrents08:14
RoyKkeep a backup in case the midden hits the windmill...08:14
cemchi. how can i check if I have packages installed from outside the standard repos main/universe/multiverse? like PPAs, third party repos etc?09:08
twbapt-cache policy foo, might help09:09
uvirtbotNew bug: #946953 in samba (main) "'Permission denied' when using a windows share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94695309:13
cemctwb: I would have to do this on every single package I have installed. isn't there a more efficient way?09:18
lynxmanmorning o/09:22
twbcemc: write a sh script?09:26
Anaphaxetoni ve done it09:44
Anaphaxetoni destroyed my server09:45
Anaphaxetonthe upgrade process could not complete09:45
Anaphaxetonand a reboot made the system useless09:45
Anaphaxetonthen running a usb stick distro09:46
Anaphaxetonseems to not see mt raid 009:46
Anaphaxetonmy*09:46
uksysadminhello all09:49
drag0nzhey guys, im sorry for the n00b question, but can someone explain to me what does ubuntu cloud means exactly?09:49
uksysadminMy Ubuntu 12.04 A2 and B1 installs keep kernel panicking on boot: log.c:768: Assertion failed in log_clear_unflushed: log->remote_closed (Kernel 3.2.0-17-generic)09:50
bluefrogdrag0nz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing09:50
uksysadminanybody else see this - was hoping it was an Alpha-2 issue.09:51
twbdrag0nz: it's a buzzword.  It basically means the same thing as time-sharing (60s) or thin clients (90s)10:14
uksysadmindrag0nz: its ubuntu's ability to provision cloud IaaS services out of the box10:15
kaihey folks10:19
kaiI'm trying to script the creation of LXC containers, using disk image files10:20
kaiis there a way to get mkfs.ext4 to not ask if the device specified is not a block device?10:20
kais/ask/ask for confirmation/10:21
cemcwhat is the recommended way to restrict ssh access to only scp/sftp (no shell) on lucid 10.04 ?10:21
kaiI tried -q, but that doesn't seem to make a difference10:21
kaicemc: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94 comes to mind10:21
cemckai: thanks!10:22
kaifirst hit for "ssh sftp only" on google, btw :)10:23
kaicemc: http://solderintheveins.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-sftp-only-account-how-to/ has a bit more comprehensive setup10:24
cemcthanks10:26
kaino worries :)10:26
bluefrogcemc, you may have to add a Match to close the Match Group "directive" in sshd_config10:29
koolhead17hi all10:37
cemcbluefrog: thanks for that. the manual says it's either another Match to close the block or the end of the file. since the guide adds those at the end probably that's why it doesn't need a closing Match10:37
Davieylynxman: do you have access to any amd servers?10:51
lynxmanDaviey: yessir and they're even running Ubuntu10:52
Davieylynxman: \o/, precise?10:53
lynxmanDaviey: Oneiric, they're prod machines10:53
lynxmanDaviey: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 24210:53
lynxmanDaviey: was thinking about upgrading them to precise though10:53
Davieylynxman: dammit, any lab machines running precise on amd64, that you know of?10:54
* RoyK has one or two10:54
lynxmanDaviey: all of them are xeon10:54
RoyKpentium III xeon? ;)10:55
lynxmanDaviey: as said, I can upgrade them to precise, its my mysql prod db10:55
lynxmanDaviey: nothing wrong can happen right? *wink*10:55
RoyKlynxman: really, upgrading a production machine to precise? now?10:56
lynxmanRoyK: I'm reckless like that10:56
lynxmanRoyK: it's actually an active-passive cluster, so if I upgrade just one should be fine10:56
RoyKand you're not afraid that the older version of mysql will get a nervous breakdown when its peer has been upgraded and data on disk changed to a new format? ;)10:57
Davieyeeek10:59
DavieyRoyK: Yeah, i really want to get some data from an amd64 machine on precise :(10:59
Davieythanks anyway10:59
lynxmanRoyK: nah ;)11:00
Anaphaxetonupgrading an ubuntu server is a pita...11:08
Anaphaxetongoodbye... going to my desktop distro, archlinux!11:08
lynxmanoh divas :) *shrug*11:08
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jamespageDaviey: I think I'm misunderstanding the triage report - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html11:42
jamespagewhen I set the importance I would expect bugs to move from New/Undecided to New?11:42
jamespageis that not correct?11:42
Davieyjamespage: it should...11:50
jamespageDaviey: is there a nice way to make apt-get be more verbose on about what happens in maintainer scripts11:52
jamespageerror code 11 is not very descriptive...11:52
Davieyjamespage: set -x ?11:52
jamespageDaviey: doh!11:53
Davieyjamespage: dpkg --debug=100011:53
* jamespage faceplants11:53
rbasakjamespage: if I could get a patch that fixes bug 949044 and touches only ARM specific code, this could get sponsored through feature freeze, right?12:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 949044 in openmpi "Basic openmpi hello world fails on arm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94904412:32
Davieyrbasak: how is that a feature?12:33
rbasakDaviey: that's what I mean. It's a bug, so should have no issues getting uploaded? That's my understanding, I just wanted to check!12:33
Davieyrbasak: right! :)12:34
koolhead17hey zul12:51
koolhead17apart from changing the middleware configs at api-paste.ini does packages(services) nova/api/volume/glance  really needs some more changes after the new keystone?13:14
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spajderixhi13:20
jamespagerbasak, as Daviey says - that should not be an issue13:51
rbasakjamespage: great, thanks13:51
eagles0513875_what is the url that one shoudl use to be able to have a server doa  network install from the archive?14:05
eagles0513875_is this the url that i want http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/14:06
jamespagelynxman, are you doing some updates for puppet?14:12
zulDaviey: i havent been able to reproduce that lxc network injection bug14:13
nOStahlhey guys, I'm setting up my first raid   a raid1 setup with two 1.5 terabyte hard drives, should I also do LVM?14:16
Davieyzul: :/14:18
* smb guesses this is not a particularly good time to nag zul about reviews/sponsoring...14:19
zulsmb: xen right?14:20
smbzul, Right, though I have another one for libvirt by now...14:20
smbbug 948333 and bug 94902814:20
zulsmb: queue them up right now before i forget :)14:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948333 in xen "Xen: pxeboot for e1000 emulation not working" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94833314:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 949028 in ubuntu "libvirt: xen: never use type=ioemu for vif definitions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94902814:20
zulsmb: doing it right now14:23
smbzul, many cheers :)14:23
_rubeneagles0513875_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oughta be enough for a netinstall url14:25
eagles0513875__ruben: well xenserver is complaining when it tries to update the archives saying there is no release file14:25
ikoniathat is just a http reference to the URL14:26
ikoniayou need more info that that14:26
eagles0513875_ikonia: like what version etc14:27
Davieyjamespage: fancy reviewing a srcNEW?14:27
jamespageDaviey: OK14:28
ikoniacorrect14:28
eagles0513875_ok thanks ikonia14:28
Davieyjamespage: http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/convoy/14:29
* jamespage goes to grab coffee14:29
zulwhats convoy?14:30
SliptikHello - i am needing to setup an smtp server - before i get to far in - am i on the right path with using Postfix for this14:31
Davieyzul: https://launchpad.net/convoy14:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #949956 in lxc (universe) "lxc-start-ephemeral keeps same MAC address, and so same IP address, as base instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94995614:33
zulDaviey: oooooh...14:33
zulsmb: did the libvirt patch come from upstream or totally original14:34
smbzul, Done by me14:35
zulsmb: ok just wondering14:35
smbzul, It might be something to feed back14:35
zulsmb: i was just thinking that14:36
smbzul, Just not sure what the "usual" procedure would be14:36
zulsmb: i would say talk to hallyn since he maintains it but he isnt here this week14:37
zulsmb: anyways uploaded both14:37
smbzul, Ok, will do so. Great, thanks14:37
nOStahlhey guys, i installed ubuntu server and now when I reboot it show grub and then its blank right after that..14:40
nOStahlubuntu 11.1014:40
smbzul, Btw, the xen patch also might be something to feed back to Debian. I think the change of rom file was part of a Debian patch.14:41
zulsmb: ack14:42
nOStahlany ideas?14:42
lynxmanjamespage: yes, adding some patches that are required to revert a previous behaviour in lockfile treatment14:45
lynxmanjamespage: almost done, it's a bit of a pita :)14:45
glenn_lo.14:45
jamespagelynxman, can you pickup a couple of fixes for bug 94898314:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948983 in puppet "puppetmaster-passenger default vhost has wrong documentroot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94898314:45
jamespageI think they are both trivial - glenn_ is the reporter14:46
lynxmanjamespage: glad to do so :)14:46
smbnOStahl, Could be various things. You could try to user "nomodeset" on the kernel arguments from grub. I think 11.10 did not use quiet anymore...14:46
glenn_jamespage: as i was saying, it might be a good idea, that the puppetmaster-passenger checks if there is a /etc/puppet/puppet.conf before installing, and either backups that file or asks the user for confirmation14:46
nOStahlk so I'm in grub and I hit e14:46
lynxmanglenn_: I reckon that's done automatically by the packaging for any config file, right jamespage?14:47
nOStahlshows things like setparams and ins mod stuff14:47
nOStahlwhere do I do nomodeset14:47
jamespageglenn_, ah - so that file is provided by puppet-common14:48
smbnOStahl, Should be the line which also sets the root= I believe, give me a sec14:48
nOStahlty smb14:48
jamespageand lynxman is correct in that any changes to that file made locally are preserved by default be the package management system14:48
jamespageyou can elect to take the new file - but its an interactive prompt14:48
glenn_jamespage: i didnt got that question, but perhaps thats because of the error in the package?14:49
smbnOStahl, Actually the one starting with linux and with root=xxx ro <nomodeset> <- there14:49
jamespagehmm14:49
iclebyteif I've created my own package repo, how do I sign it with gpg?14:49
jamespageit should be classified as a conffile14:50
jamespageso it should prompt14:50
nOStahlin the < >?14:50
lynxmanjamespage: will tackle both at the same time and repush the branch, if you fancy reviewing later I'll be honoured :)14:50
smbnOStahl, no, sorry, without14:50
nOStahlk ty14:50
glenn_lynxman i can test if you want14:50
jamespagelynxman, ack - happy todo so14:50
lynxmanglenn_: oh that would be superb :)14:50
lynxmanjamespage: yay \o/14:50
glenn_lynxman if youd put it on ur ppa i can test it14:50
jamespagelynxman, I need to look at that rabbitmq package again don't I14:51
glenn_did that for the backports of lucid/./. too14:51
lynxmanglenn_: will do so14:51
lynxmanglenn_: thank you very very much!14:51
* jamespage pokes himself on behalf of lynxman14:51
lynxmanjamespage: yeah :)14:51
nOStahlsmb: k did that then hit f10 to boot and still black screen14:51
smbnOStahl, f10?... not sure I user ctrl-x to boot a changed setup. but maybe I just ignore other keybindings14:52
glenn_jamespage: so, if id have /etc/puppet/puppet.conf created on a fresh server, you say that if the package install wants to replace that file it should prompt the user?14:52
nOStahlah ok14:52
nOStahlrestarting lets check14:52
nOStahlk tried it again hit e and added nomodeset to the end of ro line14:53
nOStahlctr-x and still black screen14:54
smbnOStahl, Yes, actually says both do the same14:54
nOStahlthis is on a fresh install of ubuntu server 11.10 raid114:54
smbnOStahl, Just had never relaized it changed or was added14:54
nOStahlwhat do I do now heh14:56
smbnOStahl, you could add "debug" instead of nomodeset, which will make more boot messages visible14:56
nOStahljust tried recover mode kernel14:57
smbnOStahl, And what kind of raid1 (hw, fakeraid/dmraid or softraid/md)?14:57
nOStahlits booting14:57
nOStahlsoftraid/md14:57
nOStahldropped me saying degraded drive14:57
SpamapSsoftraid.. UGH14:58
smbSpamapS, purist. :)14:58
SpamapSnOStahl: you should be able to say "Y" to boot degraded14:58
SpamapSsmb: apologist!14:58
smbSpamapS, Never! :-P14:58
nOStahlits saying things like md0 unknown partition stuff15:00
smbAnyway, that actually reminds me that I am not sure how smart grub nowadays is, but I'd always have /boot on a non-raided partition. I think normally the installer does that automatically15:00
nOStahlmdadm CREATE user root not found15:00
smbnOStahl, unknown partition may be if the whole md is used a lvm pv15:01
nOStahlI  didn't setup lvm15:01
glenn_jamespage, lynxman: the install of the puppetmaster-passenger package asks me if it should replace the config file15:02
nOStahlya its just looping trying to start in degraded mode15:03
jamespageglenn_, puppetmaster-passenger should not touch /etc/puppet/puppet.conf15:03
jamespagebut it will pull in puppet-common which will want to update that file15:03
nOStahlreinstall is in order it looks like15:03
glenn_puppet-common that is ofcourse, as dependency15:03
jamespageupdate/replace15:03
glenn_who is squigley.namespace.at ?15:04
glenn_i got that in my puppetmaster vhost now :)15:04
smbnOStahl, Hard to say... trouble is that it is rather rare I have to resort to mdadm command. so I forget15:04
smbnOStahl, I think there was a command to inspect the individual disks meta data...15:05
SpamapSmdadm --excamine /dev/xxxx15:05
SpamapSexamine even15:05
smbSpamapS, Right, thanks15:05
SpamapSnOStahl: what happened? RAID1 problems post install?15:05
nOStahlya15:05
* SpamapS tests that every release, and so would be interested to hear if there are holes in the testing15:06
nOStahlI followed the ubuntu server setup guide15:06
nOStahlI'm running an hp dc5750 with two caviar black 1.5 terabyte hard drives15:06
glenn_lynxman: can you double check if that hostname is in the puppetmaster-passenger code? it seems hardcoded15:06
glenn_lynxman: on my server i have the hostname of a developers machine15:07
SpamapSnOStahl: the degraded boot should drop you to a shell if you say N15:07
nOStahlSpamapS: should i do that first before trying a reinstall?15:07
smbI think that would be helpful to find out what went wrong15:08
nOStahlk one min15:09
SpamapSnOStahl: yes, there may be a bug that needs fixing.. it would help a lot. :)15:10
SpamapSnOStahl: is this 11.10 ?15:10
jamespageDaviey: convoy feedback - http://pad.ubuntu.com/convoy15:10
nOStahlk at initramfs15:10
nOStahl11.10 yes15:10
SpamapSnOStahl: so first I'd just do mdadm --examine on each device you think should be part of the array15:11
nOStahlexample?15:12
smbmdadm --examine /dev/sda15:12
smbif you have an sda15:12
nOStahlk ty15:13
dknhey guys, if install the tomcat java server do i need to install the java JRE?15:13
nOStahlno md superblock detected on /dev/sda15:13
nOStahlsame with /dev/sdb15:13
nOStahldf shows no devices exempt for udev and tmpfs15:13
ikonianOStahl: partitions not devices15:14
smbnOStahl, And when you created the raid, you used sda and sdb or sda1/sdb115:14
nOStahlk walk me through this lol df shows no devices except for udev and tmpfs15:16
dknhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/874680/15:16
nOStahlso mdadm can't find any devices to check?15:16
smbnOStahl, what does cat /proc/partitions show?15:16
nOStahlchecking15:16
nOStahlsda / sdb / dm-0 / dm-115:16
smbnOStahl, hm the dm-* ones are surprising... dmsetup ls --tree (hoping this works)15:17
nOStahlthat spit out pdc_bchdbda115:18
nOStahland some other lines15:18
smbthat reeks a bit os fakeroot....15:18
smbnOStahl, could you paste me the whole output as a pm or pastbin15:19
nOStahldone15:21
smbSo that looks like a bit like a dmraid consisting of sda and sdb and probably a partition on that...15:22
smbIf you could paste dmsetup table15:23
smbSo yes the pdc_bchdbda1 is a partition on a mirror. But not managed by md15:25
smbnOStahl, Can it be that you also have some RAID1 option set up in the BIOS15:25
nOStahlI did at first15:26
nOStahlbut then i put it back to normal15:26
nOStahlas I was told I didn't want the bios version15:26
smbnOStahl, Ah, that is potentially the problem. Maybe meta data on the devices was not removed properly. So now dmraid still grabs the devices15:27
nOStahlboot up a gparted disk and zero them out or something and reinstall ?15:28
jdstrandzul: I tried to approve the quantum in binNEW, but got:15:30
jdstrand** quantum could not be accepted due to The following files are already published in Primary Archive for Ubuntu:15:30
jdstrandquantum-common_2012.1~e4-0ubuntu1_all.deb15:30
zulgah?15:30
smbnOStahl, about. potentially you could boot the installer and switch to a different vt when it comes to disk setup. But also make sure to have disbanded the raid in the bios and maybe change the mode from raid to ahci if possible in a second step15:30
iggi__Hello, I seem to have a common problem across multiple Ubuntu Version, Multiple Pieces of hardware. Basically what happens is I do a net install via PXE boot, once it completes it boots, but stops at a flashing cursor. I know the system itself boots since I can switch to tty2 and it runs without issue.15:30
nOStahlmy bios dosnt have ahci15:31
patdk-wkiggi__, kinds of sounds like a video driver issue15:31
jdstrandzul: looks like python-quantumclient and quantum both provide quantum-common and they have the same version15:31
jdstrandzul: I need to reject this for now15:32
smbnOStahl, ok, then at least it the disks should show up as unmanaged there. I think, bit fuzzy since every bios is a bit different15:32
zuljdstrand: ok thanks15:32
nOStahlk going to reboot into ubuntu live and check out the disks  there in gparted and format them15:32
smbnOStahl, k, not sure how well it is done. Usually a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M should be clean but also takes ages (with 1.5TB)15:34
nOStahlwhat would you say an eta would be for dd'ing15:34
glenn_lynxman: did you got my message regarding the developers hostname hardcoded in puppetmaster-passenger?15:35
smbnOStahl, no clue, sorry. can depend on a lot of things and rarely done. You may try to be smart and only erase the beginning and use skip= to erase the end in a second step15:36
smbnOStahl, But then there is also the chance that the raid bios plays trick with host protected areas15:36
iggi__patdk-lap, I've been told that before, but it's different server models. I'll dump the VGA info and check if they're the same chip, I don't think they are though. I'll just file a bug report I suppose15:36
nOStahlugg :P15:37
patdk-wkmost *server* boards use that matrox 400 chip15:37
patdk-wkand I believe is one of the chips with the issue15:37
patdk-wkor the old ati chips15:37
iggi__Well this one is an ASPEED technology which I've not heard of before15:38
iggi__ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 10)15:38
jamespageDaviey: do we need to get an FFe/release team ack for the changes we are making for rabbitmq-server?15:39
jamespageits fixing up existing universe packages by moving them into rabbitmq-server as they can all be built from one source tree now15:39
glenn_jamespage/lynxman: i found the lines: ext/rack/files/apache2.conf:        SSLCertificateFile      /etc/puppet/ssl/certs/squigley.namespace.at.pem15:42
glenn_jamespage/lynxman: thats in the puppet source15:42
jamespagehmm15:42
glenn_should i create a bug for that a puppetlabs?15:42
glenn_s/a/at15:43
jamespageno15:44
jamespagethat gets used at the template for /etc/apache2/sites-enables/puppetmaster15:44
glenn_jamespage: better they use example.com or whatever15:44
glenn_jamespage: thats the developers hostname15:44
Davieyjamespage: is there a diff for rabbit?15:45
jamespageDaviey, linked to bug 94899315:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948993 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-2.7.1-0ubuntu1 lacks compatibility with plugin packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94899315:46
benjiI have submitted an MP to fix bug 949956: https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/ubuntu/precise/lxc/bug-949956/+merge/9660115:49
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 949956 in lxc "lxc-start-ephemeral keeps same MAC address, and so same IP address, as base instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94995615:49
glenn_jamespage: so i should leave it like that ? the template?15:49
jamespageglenn_, I'm not sure why you have the raw template - it should be re-written during configuration of puppetmaster-passenger15:49
glenn_jamespage: that was in my vhost15:49
glenn_jamespage: i put bla in puppet.conf15:50
glenn_jamespage: guess its a bug then15:50
Davieyjamespage: looking15:51
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jamespageDaviey: ta very much15:59
jamespagethe debdiff has had review from me and SpamapS15:59
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lynxmanDaviey: thanks for the reviews16:30
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lynxmanjamespage: SpamapS just posted one minor correction to the debdiff16:40
lamontpuppet/precise seems to wind up with zombie children from time to time, which it then fails to reap17:19
glenn_puppet is weird with children anyway, they just detach it in ruby17:19
lamontselect(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {0, 994126}) = 0 (Timeout)17:19
lamontselect(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {1, 0})     = 0 (Timeout)17:19
lamontselect(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {1, 0})     = 0 (Timeout)17:19
lamontthat's the parent17:20
glenn_lamont: do you have custom modules/manifests which could cause this? I had something familiar too17:20
lamontdunno... a backport of 2.7.11 to lucid (and hardy for that matter) does not show this17:21
glenn_are you on the 0.24?17:21
lamont0.24?17:21
glenn_puppet 0.24 is default on lucid, backports put you higher17:21
lamont2.7.11-1 backported to lucid and hardy seem to not hit this17:21
glenn_oh17:22
glenn_nm :)17:22
lamontonly seeing it on machines running precise.  and there it is common17:22
glenn_did you backport the precise version to lucid?17:22
lamontyes17:23
glenn_because the official backports for lucid come from oneric i believe, and they are on 2.7.1. does that version have the same behaviour, or is it only with 2.7.11 ?17:23
lamontwe've seen it since at least 2.7.917:24
lamontI think our use of 2.7.9 predated our use of precise17:24
lamontthough not 100% sure on that17:24
micahgbigon was complaining of the same thing a few days ago I think17:24
lamontmicahg: that it's new to 2.7.11 or that it's there wiht 2.7.1?17:25
bigon+117:25
glenn_i had issues with an upstart script regarding children, but that was totally something else17:25
bigonhttps://launchpad.net/~bigon/+archive/lucid-backports << just started my backport ppa :p17:25
micahglamont: the problem is the precise package changed too much to make an official backport easy from precise17:25
glenn_micahg: what exactly is so different?17:26
lamontmicahg: yeah... we kinda ripped out cjwatson's change17:26
glenn_micahg: it would be very nice to have precise puppet package backported to lucid in the future, instead of the oneric one17:26
micahgglenn_: ruby deps, dpkg-maintscript-helper usage17:26
glenn_micahg: ah ok17:27
bigonruby gem name17:27
micahgbigon: we can't do that for backports ;)17:27
bigonit's only s/ruby-json/libjson-ruby17:27
micahgwell, that part would be easy, but some of the other packaging changes were more intrusive, if there's an actual bug in the oneiric package and the fix isn't too big, maybe that can be SRUd17:28
glenn_i still dont understand the template vhost issue with puppetmaster-passenger17:28
bigonthe path of the docroot is not ok?17:29
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bigonglenn_:  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662866?17:29
uvirtbotDebian bug 662866 in puppetmaster-passenger "puppetmaster-passenger: Incorrect DocumentRoot in apache2.site.conf.tmpl" [Normal,Open]17:29
glenn_bigon: well i have been testing some things, and when i just put bla in puppet.conf, then install puppetmaster-passenger without replacing the SSL certificates are names according to the raw template17:30
glenn_bigon; no not that one17:30
bigonah well I didn't saw this I think17:31
bigon-> home17:31
glenn_guess people should just use a proper puppet.conf then, else they experience weirdness17:32
glenn_but i think it should be catched and put in the right way, to be more user friendly17:32
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jamespagelynxman, I'll pester Daviey tomorrow about rabbitmq-server....17:34
lynxmanjamespage: :)17:34
lynxmanjamespage: I think I'll push another debdiff with SpamapS suggestion, it's a very minor one17:35
glenn_lynxman: where in the puppet source can i find the code which would use the template and create the actual vhost?17:36
lynxmanglenn_: it should be on the debian packaging part, gimme some mins to get my head around this patch and I'll assist you :)17:36
glenn_lynxman: awesome17:37
glenn_seems to be puppetmaster-passenger.postinst17:39
glenn_this is worse then i thought :>17:39
glenn_since it seems to reside in the puppet binary17:40
lynxmanglenn_: all the modifications are in puppetmaster-passenger.postinst yeah17:42
lynxmanglenn_: so? we just need to patch it17:42
glenn_err: Could not parse /etc/puppet/puppet.conf: Could not match line bla at /etc/puppet/puppet.conf:bla17:42
glenn_notice: Removing file Puppet::SSL::CertificateRequest err: at '/etc/puppet/ssl/ca/requests/err:.pem'17:43
glenn_notice: Removing file Puppet::SSL::CertificateRequest err: at '/etc/puppet/ssl/certificate_requests/err:.pem'17:43
glenn_root@puppetclient:/etc/puppet/ssl/private_keys# ls17:43
glenn_?[1;35merr:.pem  could.pem  not.pem  parse.pem17:43
glenn_nice :>17:43
glenn_before this i had the hostname from the template itself17:44
glenn_root@puppetclient:/etc/puppet/ssl/private_keys# puppet config print certname17:46
glenn_err: Could not parse /etc/puppet/puppet.conf: Could not match line bla at /etc/puppet/puppet.conf:bla17:46
glenn_puppetclient.glennaaldering.nl17:46
glenn_how would you patch something like this17:46
glenn_cut out the err: line?17:46
glenn_yeah that would work17:47
glenn_lynxman: if i put this in the postinst the cert is created ok:             puppet cert generate $(puppet config print certname |grep -v err)17:57
glenn_lyxnman: but the problem is that the first line of the output is used for creating things, it goes for all puppet config options17:59
glenn_lynxman: the installer should exit i think17:59
lynxmanglenn_: still not with you :) 1 sec18:01
glenn_lynxman: it helps when i just talk :)18:01
lynxmanglenn_: lol18:02
glenn_lynxman: it does :) i got my first deb package build :>18:02
glenn_i could fix my own bug :>18:03
glenn_put it a2enmod headers18:03
glenn_nice18:03
glenn_s/it/in18:04
glenn_but lynxman is fixing that already lol18:05
lynxman:)18:05
lynxmanglenn_: okay I reproduced the issue18:17
glenn_lynxman: i am doing an if statement at the top now, checking for err in puppet config print18:18
lynxmanglenn_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/874923/18:18
glenn_lynxman: and if so it should exit18:18
glenn_lynxman: um, is ur paste the fixed one?18:19
lynxmanglenn_: nope, its just the one I just built (with my own set of patches applied), now hunting down yours :)18:19
glenn_lynxman: ur paste is not the same as my issue18:19
lynxmanglenn_: yeah that's why I needed to first finish this patching18:19
glenn_lynxman: whats wrong with this:     if [ $(puppet config print) =~ "err" ]; then18:19
glenn_this is what i want to achieve :>18:20
lynxmanglenn_: just diving into it right now, let me see...18:24
glenn_stupid bash18:27
glenn_why cant i use islike18:28
glenn_oh i have to use regex18:29
glenn_lynxman: are you able to reproduce it?18:40
lynxmanglenn_: on it18:47
* lynxman is being pulled in different directions18:47
glenn_im just strugging with sh syntax18:47
lynxmanglenn_: found the errors and fixed them already :)18:56
lynxmanglenn_: let me update the bug18:56
glenn_lynxman how18:56
glenn_ive been staring an half hour18:56
glenn_:>18:56
* glenn_ curious now18:57
glenn_whats the bug id/url18:58
lynxmanglenn_: you reported it ;)18:59
lynxmanglenn_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/94898318:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948983 in puppet "puppetmaster-passenger default vhost has wrong documentroot" [High,Confirmed]18:59
glenn_lynxman: thats old, im on a new one :>18:59
glenn_you must be really busy..19:00
lynxmanglenn_: it really shows ;)19:01
glenn_uhuh19:01
lynxmanjamespage: any other puppet bug I must look at? #948983 is done19:01
glenn_lynxman: the one im onto is pretty nasty19:02
lynxmanglenn_: can you point me at the bug in launchpad?19:02
glenn_lyxnman: i should create it for you then19:03
glenn_but its easy to reproduce19:03
glenn_should i just file it?19:03
lynxmanglenn_: please, otherwise I can't track it19:03
glenn_sure ok19:03
Davieyjamespage: I don't need no pestering! :)19:05
lynxmanDaviey: you're a star ;)19:07
zulsmoser: ping19:07
zuloooh...jono needs help with a server ;)19:08
PlizzoI need help with my server, when I try to boot it it says "There appears to be one or more degraded RAID devices" and a ton of other information. What could be wrong, all my disks are working properly..19:09
smoserzul, here.19:09
PlizzoIt's been working great for the past 15 days, just rebooted it19:09
glenn_Plizzo: seems like one of the disks is not ok19:09
zulsmoser: have you run across any documentation for valid ec2 key names19:09
glenn_Plizzo: have you tried megacli to return information regarding the raid arrays?19:10
Plizzoglenn_: But I ran the server 5 minutes ago, everything was working fine, just did a normal shutdown and this happened19:10
Plizzoglenn_: What is that?19:10
glenn_Plizzo: its a tool which you can use in a running system to show all information regarding raid stuff19:11
PlizzoRight now I'm stuck in BusyBox because I don't want to boot degraded19:11
glenn_Plizzo: ouch, already rebooted...19:11
glenn_Plizzo: have you tried looking in the controller itself?19:11
Plizzoglenn_: I don't have a controller, it's a software raid19:11
Plizzoglenn_: Or what do you mean?19:11
glenn_Plizzo: nevermind the megacli then19:11
glenn_Plizzo: i was figuring ur on hardware raid :)19:12
glenn_Plizzo: i dont know much about software raid sorryz19:12
glenn_Plizzo: i suggest you try to get information from the commandline using the software raid tools19:12
smoserec2 key19:12
Plizzoglenn_: Alright, thanks anyway19:12
smoseras in ssh key you mean ? zul ?19:12
glenn_Plizzo: to see if there is an error or any other message regarding the arrays or disks19:12
smoseri can just try some if you'd like19:12
Plizzoglenn_: But I don't want to boot degraded, what will happen if I do?19:13
zulsmoser: as in keypair name19:13
glenn_Plizzo: what kind of raid set do you have?19:13
zulsmoser: im assuming that its similar to bucketnames19:13
PlizzoMy system is on a 64GB SSD, and I have three 2TB seagate drives in RAID5 array19:13
adam_gzul: any idea sup with this one ? just hit it myself https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone/+bug/94871919:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948719 in keystone "uninstall  keystone error" [High,Confirmed]19:13
Plizzoglenn_: My system is on a 64GB SSD, and I have three 2TB seagate drives in RAID5 array19:13
glenn_Plizzo: if its raid 5 and one disk is bad, i dont think much would happen19:14
glenn_plizzo: if its raid 5 and 2 disks are bad, the data should be broken already :)19:14
Plizzoglenn_: I've been using the server all day, streaming content. I've had this error once before but it wen't away when I rebooted19:14
zuladam_g: havent seen that before ill take a look19:14
glenn_Plizzo: how did you get into busybox? was that due to the reboot?19:15
Plizzoglenn_: I'm going to open the computer and check that all SATA sables are in place19:15
adam_gzul: there are some tempest tests that test constraints on keynames, but i was never able to find any documentation to support those rules.19:15
glenn_plizzo: next time get more information before you reboot a server when raid is degraded, at least that is what i would do19:15
Plizzoglenn_: It automaticly jumps to busybux when the "Boot degraded" question times out19:15
zuladam_g: right im looking for ec2 specific19:15
glenn_Plizzo: so your running system just went into busybox?19:15
glenn_cant imagine19:15
zuladam_g: because right now " " is a valid character and it probably shouldnt be19:15
adam_gzul: yea, i was trying to find ec2 API docs that defined that stuff, couldn't find it19:16
Plizzoglenn_: No, I rebooted my server like normal, and at boot-up it gave me the "degraded raid" message, and when I did not choose anything it wen't into BusyBox19:16
zuladam_g: trying to make ec2 api suck less :)19:17
glenn_Plizzo: You should have checked the raid status before rebooting :)19:17
glenn_Plizzo: you should try it from busybox, using ur software raid tools19:17
glenn_Plizzo: find out why the array is degraded, and fix accordingly19:17
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glenn_lynxman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/95018319:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 950183 in puppet "puppetmaster-passenger postinst creates wrong certificate files and puppetmaster vhost if puppet config print has an error" [Undecided,New]19:19
glenn_root@puppetclient:/etc/puppet/ssl/private_keys# ls19:20
glenn_?[1;35merr:.pem  could.pem  not.pem  parse.pem19:20
glenn_:>19:20
glenn_Plizzo: something like mdadm -Q i suppose19:23
SpamapSPlizzo: if you say "Y" to the boot degraded message, does it boot fine?19:24
SpamapSPlizzo: the reason for the busybox is to allow you a chance to fix any weirdness in your raid superblocks that may have come from disconnecting/reconnecting drives19:25
PlizzoSpamapS: I booted Linux degraded and ran cat /proc/mdstat19:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #950183 in puppet (main) "puppetmaster-passenger postinst creates wrong certificate files and puppetmaster vhost if puppet config print has an error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95018319:25
PlizzoI have three disks /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdd19:25
PlizzoThis disk is not in the list of active devices: /dev/sdd19:26
PlizzoBut the disk is recognized by the system otherwise19:26
PlizzoWhich I find odd19:26
Plizzoglenn_: What does mdadm -Q do?19:26
glenn_man mdadm19:27
glenn_it queries ur raid device19:27
glenn_mdadm --query /dev/md019:27
glenn_something like that19:27
SpamapSPlizzo: mdadm --examine /dev/sdd19:27
glenn_or that :)19:28
Plizzo"mdadm: No md superblock detected on /dev/sdd."19:29
PlizzoBut all disks say that19:29
SpamapSPlizzo: wha?19:29
SpamapSPlizzo: can you pastebin mdstat ?19:29
PlizzoSure19:29
Plizzohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875049/19:30
SpamapSmd0 : active raid5 sda1[0] sdc1[1]19:30
SpamapSPlizzo: AHA19:30
SpamapSPlizzo: --examin /dev/sdd119:30
SpamapSPlizzo: you forgot to mention you had partitions defined19:30
PlizzoSpamapS: I'm not that good with this, a friend of mine helped me set up the array, and mdadm would not let us create the array without partitions19:31
PlizzoI'll paste the command output19:31
Plizzohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875051/19:32
zuladam_g: do you have a /etc/dbconfig-common/keystone.conf?19:32
PlizzoSpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875051/19:33
PlizzoSpamapS: To me everything looks normal, what does it say to you?19:36
glenn_Plizzo good luck on the array19:38
glenn_im off19:38
SpamapSPlizzo: mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sdd119:44
SpamapSPlizzo: that *should* add it back in19:44
PlizzoSpamapS: mdadm: /dev/md0 is already in use.19:44
PlizzoShould I stop the array?19:44
zulsmoser adam_g: a hah http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSEC2/latest/CommandLineReference/ApiReference-cmd-CreateKeyPair.html19:49
PlizzoSpamapS?19:49
SpamapSPlizzo: no it should be able to be hot-added19:50
PlizzoSpamapS: Seems not :/19:50
SpamapSPlizzo: what version is this?19:50
PlizzoOS?19:51
PlizzoSpamapS: I'm running Ubuntu Server 11.10 x6419:51
SpamapSPlizzo: weird19:52
smosernice work, zul19:52
PlizzoSpamapS: What can I do? :(19:52
PlizzoI found it19:53
PlizzoIt should be a lowercase "a"19:54
Plizzosudo mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/sdd119:54
SpamapSPlizzo: ahhh19:54
SpamapSI think I actually usually use --add19:54
adam_gzul: cool19:54
PlizzoSpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875077/19:54
SpamapSPlizzo: gggrrrreeatt success!19:55
PlizzoSpamapS: Why /dev/sdd1?19:56
SpamapShttp://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/e7/7l/l3/borat.jpg19:56
SpamapSPlizzo: most likely it had some problem during one of your boots19:56
SpamapSPlizzo: any inconsistency is met with refusal to go forward..19:57
PlizzoSpamapS: I'm going to do a reboot and see if it still works ;)19:57
PlizzoWish me luck19:57
SpamapSPlizzo: wait for the recovery!19:58
PlizzoSpamapS: Huh?19:58
SpamapSPlizzo: it should continue the recovery on reboot.. but.. well if you are willing to sacrifice your data, I'd be interested ;)19:58
PlizzoSpamapS: I already rebooted, did not know it had to do that :/19:59
SpamapSPlizzo: your md0 is still rcovering19:59
SpamapSPlizzo: it said 275min .. what did you think it was doing?19:59
SpamapSPlizzo: its possible you will be fine now though19:59
PlizzoSpamapS: Guess I was too quick..19:59
SpamapSPlizzo: and actually I'd be interested to hear how it goes.20:00
PlizzoSpamapS: Well, it booted into the message about "a degraded raid" and displayed the recovery message.. then it went into Busybox..20:00
PlizzoSpamapS: Should I reboot into the degraded raid and let it perform the recovery?20:01
PlizzoSpamapS: I need some advice :/20:03
SpamapSPlizzo: I'd suggest that you boot to degraded mode (answer Y)20:05
SpamapSPlizzo: cat /proc/mdstat , it should probably show a recovery in progress20:05
SpamapSPlizzo: at the worst, it will show the same old problem (sdd1 missing)20:05
PlizzoSpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875101/20:06
PlizzoIt's progressing20:06
lynxmanDaviey: does bug #950183 deserve some attention? afaict the package shouldn't gracefully recover from a previous config misconfiguration right?20:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 950183 in puppet "puppetmaster-passenger postinst creates wrong certificate files and puppetmaster vhost if puppet config print has an error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95018320:12
SpamapSPlizzo: alright. Good luck going forward. :)20:13
lynxmanSpamapS: I have a packaging question for you20:13
lynxmanSpamapS: I have a patch that removes 3 files and modifies a bunch more, everytime I apply it and run debuild -S -sa it generates a debian-changes because it says there's more changes, looks like it can't really keep track of this humongous patchfile20:14
lynxmanSpamapS: tried patching and then letting debuild generate a debian-changes file and using that one, same result20:14
lynxmanSpamapS: any other recommended ways to tackle that?20:14
PlizzoSpamapS: Thanks for all the help!20:22
reisievening, just noticed one of my hosts apt-get update no longer works; any ideas? http://pastebin.com/z2Tb0dht20:27
reisidoes this mean that the package lists are broken or...?20:27
reisiother lucid host seems to work ok, with same mirrors20:28
reisibroken one has apt 0.7.25.3ubuntu9.9 and working has apt 0.7.25.3ubuntu9.10 so...20:31
reisithe changelog says nothing that'd help here20:31
SpamapSlynxman: I've never had issues with that. Usually I use 'dpkg-source --commit' and then the changes patch isn't generated anymore.20:32
lynxmanSpamapS: ooh thanks, I'll try that :)20:32
reisihmm i wonder if anyone answered to me while i magically parted the channel?20:39
guntbertreisi: not after 21:3120:40
reisiwell, removal of apt lists cleared the situation20:42
lynxmanSpamapS: just updated bug #948993 with your suggestions, thanks :)20:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948993 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-2.7.1-0ubuntu1 lacks compatibility with plugin packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94899320:58
lynxmanDaviey, SpamapS, jamespage: If someone fancy reviewing the merge I'd be grateful (https://code.launchpad.net/~lynxman/ubuntu/precise/puppet/puppetlabsfixbug12844/+merge/96391)20:59
gary_postersmoser, if you are willing and able, it would be lovely to have a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/ubuntu/precise/lxc/bug-949956/+merge/96601 (and then a merge if it is OK)21:06
smosergary_poster, did you add the ( ) around the while ?21:07
SpamapSlynxman: wow thats a massive diff21:07
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gary_postersmoser, benji says they were copied straight from lxc-clone21:08
gary_posterand they are needed21:08
smoserjust curious. they're not necessary.21:08
smosernot needed.21:08
gary_posteroh21:08
smoserie, instead of the ( ) you coul dmove the '< $c.old > $c' up to the 'done' line21:09
smoserbut i wouldn't touch it if its the same as the source21:09
gary_postersmoser, ah ok, I wondered if that was what you meant.  but yeah, that's direct from -clone21:10
smoseronlu other question..21:10
smoseris there a use case where someone would not want to change the MAC but want ephemeral ?21:10
lynxmanSpamapS: it is :/ it reverts a previous behaviour on lock files21:11
gary_postersmoser, interesting question.  I don't *think* so, but a real answer would probably become philosophical fast.  Our project was the one that needed this, and that's not what we want; moreover, if you want multiple ephemerals simultaneously, you want different MAC addresses.  Therefore, I'd argue that we don't want it now, and if there's a use case for it in the future, what we have now should be the default behavior21:12
gary_poster (so we can add an option if we need it)21:12
gary_poster(if you want simultaneous multiple ephemerals all based on the same base container, I should say)21:14
smosergary_poster, uploaded.21:30
gary_posterawesome, thank you smoser21:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #950357 in php5 (main) "package php5-cgi 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.7 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95035722:43
stgraberjjohansen: oh, I forgot to poke you about apparmor today, well I guess it's not too late for that just yet ;) so what's happening there?22:46
jjohansenstgraber: the patches etc have been for review and its now waiting to be uploaded, jdstrand normally does that but I don't think he has time todo it today, and will probably get to it in the morning22:48
jjohansenstgraber: sorry its taken so long its the quality assurance process where all of our patches must be reviewed and acked, and that has taken a couple days with other peoples work loads22:50
stgraberjjohansen: ok, if it's uploaded today that's fine, then I can fix LXC and have my blog post about LXC in 12.04 published over the weekend22:51
stgrabers/today/tomorrow morning/g22:51
jjohansenstgraber: yeah that shouldn't be a problem22:52
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