| dpm | good morning all | 08:22 |
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| TLE | good morning | 08:31 |
| TLE | dpm: while reworking the images site, I stubled in the problem of wanting to index a dictionary with a value that is placed in a variable. I did figure out how to do it, by defining a new tag, but I think it is a little wierd that they decided that it should not be a builtin | 08:37 |
| TLE | http://stackoverflow.com/a/4661415 | 08:38 |
| dpm | morning TLE | 08:39 |
| dpm | looking... | 08:39 |
| TLE | ahh sorry context missing: in a django template | 08:39 |
| dpm | TLE, are you having the same problem as that guy? I.e. outputing the columns in ordr? | 08:41 |
| TLE | no, just more general, I loop over a list of keys, and I need to acces data in dictionaries (or rather classes that act like dictionaries) using the value of that key | 08:42 |
| dpm | ah, I see | 08:42 |
| TLE | in any case, just thought I would share, as it seems like something you might need everyonce in a while | 08:42 |
| dpm | TLE, yeah, good to know. This might also work for you: you can override the __getitem__() method of your dictionary-like class to accept that variable and return you the right value | 08:46 |
| dpm | e.g. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/874218/ | 08:46 |
| dpm | (a snippet I used a while ago in a class that contains a dict with other classes) | 08:47 |
| TLE | I don't think that's applicable, the problem is that if you in template say: for key in listofkey then key will contain a value that you could print, but if you try access a dictionary item with: dict.key it will acces dict['key'] and not dict[key] | 08:49 |
| TLE | do the problem is that whatever I call my getitem method with will never change | 08:50 |
| TLE | err: so the pro... | 08:50 |
| dpm | ah, ok, I hadn't understood the issue, I get it now | 08:50 |
| TLE | in any case, the custom filter solution should work, I was just surprised it wasn't builtin (and will not be) | 08:51 |
| dpm | gotcha | 08:52 |
| TLE | dpm: on another note, on this talk of combining apps | 08:52 |
| dpm | yeah | 08:52 |
| TLE | how do you develop your stats app, i.e. get a dbase to work with | 08:52 |
| TLE | locally | 08:53 |
| dpm | As I'm using postgresql on the server, I'm also now using a postgresql database in my local machine, it's quite easy to set up, and I keep all the details of the connection on a local_settings.py file that I keep outside of revision control. | 08:54 |
| dpm | and I load from settings.py | 08:54 |
| dpm | I've also refined a bit more the "ifdefs" to detect the django version | 08:54 |
| dpm | as on the server it's still 1.1 | 08:55 |
| dpm | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/ubuntu-translations-stats/view/head:/settings.py#L35 | 08:55 |
| dpm | for the ifdefs | 08:55 |
| dpm | and | 08:55 |
| dpm | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/ubuntu-translations-stats/view/head:/settings.py#L212 | 08:56 |
| dpm | for the local_settings.py module | 08:56 |
| dpm | that's where I keep the db connection variables (host, password, database) and the SECRET_KEY | 08:56 |
| head_victim | dpm & TLE I know you're both looking at translations websites. I just thought I'd share a drupal module (as opposed to your django work) that one of our awesome team members wrote in (I hope he doesn't mind!) http://is.gd/ltbgNL | 08:56 |
| TLE | dpm: ahh nice, how do you get data in the local dbase, run a script a few time manually or something? | 08:59 |
| dpm | head_victim, oh, that's really cool, I wished I would have known about this earlier, we could have shared some code! :) I see he's using the same diagram library that I'm using too :) | 08:59 |
| head_victim | dpm: I know a lot of canonical hosted sites for projects and locos use Drupal is all so thought it was worth a mention | 09:00 |
| head_victim | I don't think he's happy with the code yet enough to share it but he is planning on putting it up as a module for people to use when it's ready. | 09:00 |
| dpm | head_victim, yeah, the reason I'm using django is because the data manipulation requires a bit of coding, and it would be a bit difficult to do with Drupal + PHP, apart from the fact that for these kind of things Canonical IS strongly favours django over PHP | 09:01 |
| head_victim | dpm: I know how to admin a drupal install (barely), writing code is far from my forte so I'll trust you :) | 09:02 |
| dpm | :-) | 09:02 |
| dpm | head_victim, I'd also be interested in what TLE is asking: how does he get the data and store it? | 09:02 |
| TLE | +1 | 09:02 |
| head_victim | I think it's a local cron. | 09:02 |
| dpm | and do you know if he gets the data from http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/data/ubuntu-l10n/ and processes it? | 09:04 |
| head_victim | I believe he scrapes LP | 09:04 |
| TLE | dpm: in any case, how do YOU get data in your local dbase for development? | 09:05 |
| head_victim | He's not currently online but when he was you two weren't so thought I'd just grab this opportunity to show it :) | 09:05 |
| head_victim | I can definitely ask him though. | 09:06 |
| dpm | head_victim, definitely, that's really cool :) | 09:06 |
| head_victim | I'll try to get him to post details to the ML because that doesn't matter what tz people are on then. | 09:07 |
| dpm | TLE, I used pg_dump to get the database data from the server at some point, and then imported it into my local database. Then I was good to go. I've also got the same cronjob that calls 'python manage.py importdata' to create a timestamp with the daily translation data, in the same way the server runs it, but in fact I do not need it. For development I just need the DB to be populated with some sample data | 09:08 |
| TLE | dpm: ahh ok, that sounds easy enough, then I think we should definitely look more at combining at some point, into a more general translation related site | 09:09 |
| dpm | TLE, yeah, what about something like a 'ubuntu-translations-webapps' project in LP? | 09:10 |
| dpm | I can create that during the course of the day, and set ubuntu-translations-coordinators as the driver, so that everyone in the team has got commit access | 09:11 |
| dpm | another nice thing about this is that we could share the CSS styles and the base.html template | 09:11 |
| TLE | yes, that sounds good, then you can also do your initial code dump of the stuff from your +junk branch | 09:11 |
| TLE | yes | 09:11 |
| TLE | exactly | 09:11 |
| TLE | uh btw, do you have 5 minutes for ... ahh crap my new desk NOW, I'll have to log off for a while | 09:14 |
| TLE | awesome, new desk that can be raised :D | 10:48 |
| dpm | ah, cool | 10:52 |
| dpm | I need to do something with my desk too. It's a proper office desk I got from my previous job when the company was replacing the old ones, but it's too low for me to work with the computer comfortably | 10:54 |
| dpm | I probably need a new shiny one with lots of things to tweak, but I wouldn't mind doing some DIY on the current one if I knew the best way to raise it :) | 10:55 |
| TLE | yeah | 10:56 |
| TLE | we have been slowly replacing the ones at my work with some that can be (motorizerd) raised and lowered, so you can spend a part of the day standing, to avoid those lower back office problems | 10:57 |
| dpm | TLE, If you are happy with them, I might ask you for the make of those desks at some point. I like the idea of having the possibility of having both a regular and a standing desk in one :) | 11:10 |
| TLE | dpm: Mine was ordered from a Danish manufacturer, so that'll probably not help you much | 11:57 |
| dpm | oh, but we live in a global world :) | 11:57 |
| TLE | also, they are kind of expensive, but if you do all you work a the computer it is probaly worth it | 11:58 |
| TLE | http://www.efgbondo.dk/products/products.asp?PageID=1954&ArticleNo=A32C07&ArticleID=35947&GroupString= | 11:58 |
| TLE | I don't think they deliver outside of country borders ;) | 11:58 |
| dpm | thanks :) | 12:00 |
| dpm | at least it will serve as reference to see if there is anything similar here | 12:00 |
| TLE | dpm: I sent you that long overdue email about the AliasMatching for the image app | 12:05 |
| TLE | just ping me if you have questions | 12:05 |
| dpm | TLE, yeah, I saw it, thanks. I'll be moving the docs webapp to the Canonistack cloud instead of my own amazon AWS account soon. I'll either put it on a dedicated server or in the same one the stats webapp is running, so when I do the move I'll review the regexps. | 12:07 |
| TLE | yeah ok, maybe we should see about combining them pretty soon then | 12:08 |
| TLE | the last stuff I wrote about just using a Alias gets a little more complicated if we have more than one app in a django instance | 12:08 |
| TLE | but not to much | 12:08 |
| TLE | we can just symlink the static directory over to the other app and share it | 12:09 |
| TLE | tell you what, if you can help me get a test instance of you app running, then I might be able to work on moving mine over | 12:15 |
| TLE | not necessarily right now off course | 12:16 |
| dpm | TLE, sure. For my own sanity I've written instructions on how to deploy an instance of ul10nstats on a server. I can definitely help you setting up a test instance, you just have to tell me where (in the cloud, on a local virtual server...) | 12:21 |
| TLE | local virtual probably | 12:36 |
| TLE | the problem is that'll have to push this to off work hours, so maybe if you show me instructions then I can see how far I can get on my own | 12:38 |
| TLE | and probably also a dbase dump, where you have set up a admin account for me beforehand, so I can add the images information when I get it up and running and instructions for how to import it | 12:39 |
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| TLE | dpm: have you been talking to someone today about the lang packs? | 13:07 |
| dpm | TLE, hm, I haven't, and from what I see, the natty full langpack export failed :/ https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+language-packs | 13:08 |
| TLE | ok, will you follow up on that? | 13:10 |
| dpm | yeah, I'm already on it | 13:10 |
| TLE | then I'll contact pitti about having the oneiric ons copied over to proposed | 13:10 |
| TLE | err: ones | 13:10 |
| TLE | you didn't have priviliges for that right? | 13:11 |
| dpm | no, only archive admins have privileges to upload to the archive | 13:12 |
| TLE | right | 13:21 |
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| greyback | dpm: ping | 13:42 |
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| dpm | hi greyback | 14:28 |
| greyback | dpm: hi, need your advice on setting up translations for unity2d. You were talking with tsdgeos yesterday. You recommended a precise-only branch to link with Precise translation, which makes sense. But is there a way to point Precise translations to a series (which then points to a branch) | 14:46 |
| dpm | greyback, yeah, I think Launchpad only lets you link to series, not to branches anyway, but let me double-check... | 14:47 |
| greyback | When Precise is released, we immediately branch it into a "precise" branch, which is used only for updates. All work will continue on a trunk | 14:47 |
| greyback | that precise branch will be our 5.0 series = Precise, so translations will stay Precise-only | 14:48 |
| dpm | greyback, right, so you can do the switch afterwards, but for now I think enabling translations for the 5.0 series on https://translations.launchpad.net/unity-2d/5.0 would work, right? | 14:49 |
| greyback | dpm: Yes I think so. Just wanting to check with someone who understands this :) | 14:49 |
| dpm | greyback, yeah, so the first thing you'll need to do will be: | 14:50 |
| dpm | 1. Set translations policy for the whole unity-2d project. | 14:50 |
| dpm | - You do this here: https://translations.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+configure-translations | 14:50 |
| dpm | - Choose: Launchpad, unity-2d 5.0, Ubuntu Translators, Restricted on the options | 14:51 |
| dpm | 2. Set up translations (automatic imports and exports) for the 5.0 series | 14:51 |
| dpm | - You do this here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/unity-2d/+sharing-details | 14:52 |
| dpm | (not too sure why the /hardy/ part appears in the url, though) | 14:53 |
| * dpm investigates | 14:53 | |
| greyback | dpm: We have some translated files in the branch, so we import templates & translation files I guess | 14:53 |
| kelemengabor | dpm: hi, why ubuntu-translators? last week (or so), I told m4n1sh the same for activity-log-manager, but couldn't reason why it is the best - they have launchpad-translators, that's good too, or not good enough? | 14:54 |
| m4n1sh | I am still not sure what to do | 14:54 |
| kelemengabor | greyback: while we are at it, you want to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/933468 too, right? :) | 14:54 |
| m4n1sh | but in our case the application is no ubuntu specific | 14:55 |
| m4n1sh | it has some ubuntu specific code, but those are optional and can be configured via build system | 14:55 |
| kelemengabor | m4n1sh: AFAIK, in theory, unity-* isn't either ;) | 14:55 |
| m4n1sh | yes, but still right now it is mostly present in ubuntu | 14:56 |
| m4n1sh | but alm can be made to run on other distros anytime | 14:56 |
| m4n1sh | and unity depends on downstreams patches (AFAIK) | 14:56 |
| greyback | kelemengabor: that's the plan :) | 14:56 |
| dpm | kelemengabor, both would work. In theory, as upstream projects they should be assigned to launchpad-translators, but Unity is so coupled to Ubuntu that I just suggested ubuntu-translators as it's still the biggest translation group. | 14:56 |
| dpm | and to make things easier. | 14:57 |
| kelemengabor | greyback: cool :) | 14:57 |
| greyback | kelemengabor: thank you for reporting it, we'd not noticed | 14:57 |
| dpm | greyback, as an additional note on 2. - you can set the import to "import templates only" and the export branch to either the same branch as the imports or a separate one. The import branch is where the .pot files will be fed to Launchpad, and the exports branch where the .po files with the translations will be automatically committed | 14:59 |
| dpm | greyback, I hope that makes it clearer, if I can help in any way, just let me know | 14:59 |
| greyback | dpm: that helps hugely, thank you | 15:00 |
| dpm | cool :) | 15:00 |
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