[00:04] <kjs> yp
[00:04] <kjs> yo
[00:04] <kjs> even
[06:03] <MartijnVdS> mattt: collectd is very nice -- it speaks snmp too.
[07:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> "Holey Optochip" batman! http://is.gd/VPLKkq :-D from 
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[07:45] <popey> Morning
[07:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hey popey
[07:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Loving the Holey Optochip story ^^
[07:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> And I see Nvidia join the Linux Foundation.
[07:47] <popey> yeah, that could be good for us ☺
[07:48] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: don't expect them to come up with specs/non-blob drivers anytime soon though
[07:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yes MartijnVdS - I agree.
[07:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> But all main GPU builders are now members.
[07:48] <MartijnVdS> That's good.
[07:49] <TheOpenSourcerer> Shows the strength and breadth of Linux proliferation iuam
[07:50] <popey> I'm more interested in up to date tegra drivers and armhf builds of their driver
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> I'm sure that is what is motivating them.
[07:51] <MartijnVdS> popey: I'd love to se a nouveau port to ARM :)
[07:51] <MartijnVdS> popey: just to keep them on their toes
[07:52] <popey> nouveau doesnt work on arm?
[07:52] <MartijnVdS> Well tegra chips aren't geforce chips
[07:53] <MartijnVdS> are they?
[07:53] <MartijnVdS> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2011-April/008135.html
[07:56] <popey> indeed, which is why i wondered why you said "arm" and not "tegra" :D
[08:01] <MartijnVdS> well they tend to go together
[08:06] <diplo> Morning all
[08:33] <Myrtti> moin
[08:33] <popey> Moin indeed
[09:21] <davmor2> morning you funky, funky people oh and czajkowski PROD!
[09:21] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:21] <czajkowski> davmor2: how are you my dear!
[09:22] <bigcalm_lappy> Gooooood morning peeps!
[09:22] <davmor2> czajkowski: very tired
[09:22] <czajkowski> awwwww
[09:24]  * bigcalm_lappy falls asleep on his keyboard
[09:24] <bigcalm_lappy> I think I can hear bacon frying
[09:25] <bigcalm_lappy> Mmmmm, might wake me up
[09:30] <davmor2> czajkowski: here have a hug
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka
[09:30] <bigcalm_lappy> I smell bacon!
[09:32] <davmor2> bigcalm_lappy: has gone cappuccino hunting, well bacon sarnie hunting with the chance of coffee to follow :D
[09:33] <JamesTait> Morning all! :D
[09:43] <andylockran> :)
[09:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Just had coffee and choc digestives
[09:44] <andylockran> morning all
[09:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning.
[09:50] <MartijnVdS> \o
[09:51] <bigcalm_lappy> Baaaaaaaaaaaaaacon
[09:52] <andylockran> shududp
[09:53] <bigcalm_lappy> Come to the Lighthouse in Wolverhampton and have yourself a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon sandwich
[09:58] <BigRedS> I just felt incredibly vegetarian as I wondered whether that was a joke about bacon and sheep
[10:00] <bigcalm_lappy> Jono Bacon?
[10:01] <Mythx> Hi all, im new to the community!. Look forward to getting involved and chatting to like minded people!
[10:03] <andylockran> welcome Mythx
[10:04] <Mythx> Cheers!
[10:04] <davmor2> hello Mythx
[10:04] <daubers> Morning
[10:05] <bigcalm_lappy> Welcome to a better, freer life, Mythx
[10:06] <bigcalm_lappy> I know freedom is subjective, but I am biased :)
[10:07] <Mythx> I have always dabbled with Ubuntu, but since changing jobs and meeting another like minded people, we are starting to convert our buisness over to using Ubuntu Server.. Its a long process but i haven't enjoyed work this much for a long time
[10:08] <bigcalm_lappy> :)
[10:08] <andylockran> Mythx: that's great news - I know that very same feeling and it rocks
[10:08] <andylockran> knowing you've got a community of people to help you - if you put in the effort, then you open up a whole new world of opportunities
[10:09] <andylockran> a bit like learning French
[10:09] <Mythx> Yeah it is!, so i thought since im going to be more heavily involved in Ubuntu then i would get involved with the community
[10:12] <andylockran> Good news.
[10:13] <dwatkins> tres bien
[10:13] <andylockran> ;)
[10:45] <seeker> No mgdm?
[10:45] <popey> NO! mgds?
[10:45] <popey> or mgdm even
[10:46] <czajkowski> AlanBell: really good videos you've made
[10:46] <andylockran> what about mgdm?
[10:50] <czajkowski> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190050 if anyone wants to help a new person to ubuntu
[10:50] <s-fox> Hello everyone.
[10:51] <Seeker`> andylockran: mgdm isnt here :(
[10:51] <czajkowski> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190047  oh dear they seem a bit lost
[10:51] <Mythx> Hey s-fox
[10:51] <s-fox> Hello Mythx, how are you?
[10:52]  * Seeker` wanted to show him http://cjo20.net/sponza4.png http://cjo20.net/sponza5.png
[10:52] <davmor2> hello s-fox
[10:52] <Mythx> Good Thanks, Its sunny today so i cant complain!
[10:52] <s-fox> Hello davmor2 , you okay? :)
[10:52] <davmor2> no tooo tired to concentrate
[10:54] <Mythx> coffee and cake gets me through the day...
[10:55] <popey> Seeker`: you should come to oggcamp this year and talk about your illuminated TV project
[10:56] <ikonia> it's stunning
[10:56] <ikonia> I've already started spec mint up
[10:56] <ikonia> mine
[10:57]  * TheOpenSourcerer wonders where oggcamp 101 will be?
[10:59]  * BigRedS approves of the numbering convention
[11:04] <czajkowski> oh today is gonna be a fail day !
[11:04] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:04] <MartijnVdS> \o
[11:04] <brobostigon> o/
[11:05] <Mythx> \o/
[11:08]  * bigcalm_lappy cattle prods mrevell
[11:08] <christel> good morning lovelies
[11:08] <bigcalm_lappy> Good morning christel my dear :)
[11:09] <christel> popey: ooh you have decided to do oggcamp? do you have dates yet?
[11:09] <popey> nope
[11:12] <bigcalm_lappy> Today's track getting me motivated: http://open.spotify.com/track/5enxm2GCRdqTXlAANlx8Cr
[11:12] <czajkowski> bigcalm_lappy: oi no pikcing on my boss!
[11:12] <christel> whatever you do, don't ask Dave2 and daubers to help you pick the date!
[11:12] <bigcalm_lappy> czajkowski: he's a bit numb today, he needs waking up
[11:13] <Dave2> Location, not date!
[11:13] <Dave2> AlanBell suggested a date, I went "yeah, fine by me"
[11:14] <popey> well, we do have a location and date in mind but need to confirm it
[11:16] <christel> not penzance please
[11:16] <Dave2> Carlisle.
[11:17] <directhex> popey, shipped
[11:17] <popey> thank you!
[11:19] <daubers> oggcamp was briefly discussed at the hackspace meeting yesterday
[11:20] <bigcalm_lappy> czajkowski: mrevell is providing much amusement for us today :D
[11:21] <davmor2> czajkowski: be nice to boss day today I think
[11:21] <czajkowski> I'm always nice to my boss
[11:21] <davmor2> czajkowski: nicer then
[11:21] <davmor2> czajkowski: just don't offer him food
[11:21] <bigcalm_lappy> He's self harming himself with a beefburger
[11:22] <czajkowski> reminder folks mothers day is sunday week.
[11:22] <bigcalm_lappy> I bought a card 2 weeks ago :)
[11:22] <bigcalm_lappy> Just hope I remember to post it
[11:25] <popey> daubers: oh?
[11:26] <dwatkins> thanks czajkowski - I'm always confused as to whether the US uses a different date for mothers day
[11:26] <czajkowski> dwatkins: it does I think
[11:26] <dwatkins> later in the year, iirc
[11:38] <daubers> popey: Indeed :) Forward planning to what events we might want to get involved in/do events for
[11:39] <mrevell> mrevell_ damn you imposter
[11:39] <mrevell> dagnamit
[11:49] <christel> haha
[11:52] <bigcalm_lappy> Which one of you killed spotify for me? :(
[11:52] <BigRedS> Sorry!
[11:53] <diplo> Are you breaking your fixed VM line bigcalm_lappy
[11:53] <diplo> VM aren't happy!
[11:53] <bigcalm_lappy> diplo: I'm in the Lighthouse in Wolverhampton with davmor2, mrevell & gord
[11:56] <diplo> ah :D
[11:56] <Dave2> is it horribly sunny?
[11:56] <bigcalm_lappy> So I get to blame this ADSL connection
[11:56] <diplo> Well the four of you are breakign stuff
[11:56] <bigcalm_lappy> Dave2: half of that is true
[11:57]  * davmor2 prods bigcalm_lappy to prove it
[11:58] <Mythx> Aint the lighthouse a cinema? Never been.. Only heard it mentioned?
[11:59] <bigcalm_lappy> It's a "media centre" which includes a cinema
[11:59] <Mythx> Ah right, so like a gallery and stuff/
[11:59] <bigcalm_lappy> Yus
[11:59] <Dave2> It's a media centre with windows.
[12:00] <bigcalm_lappy> They have a room which they offer out for free for peeps to work in and use their wifi. Just buy a few coffees in the day
[12:00] <davmor2> Dave2: lots of windows
[12:00] <Dave2> lots of sun
[12:00] <Mythx> Brill, there was a place like that in Liverpool i visited once, but didnt realise there was one in Wolves..
[12:00] <christel> i wish i was in wolves so i could coworkspace with you :(
[12:01] <bigcalm_lappy> christel: that would be cool
[12:01] <christel> yesss
[12:01] <Mythx> I work the other side of Brum, between Birmingham and Coventry
[12:01] <christel> except you'd never come back, i mumble obscenities at my computer all the time
[12:01] <christel> :D
[12:01] <Dave2> cow ork space
[12:04] <bigcalm_lappy> christel: the workplace day is more akin to #lugradio than here ;)
[12:05] <Dave2> What, mostly quiet with a bit of talking every so often?
[12:05] <Dave2> Still hanging around despite not having a real purpose any more?
[12:05] <christel> haha
[12:05] <christel> i also pull faces at my computer all the time
[12:06] <christel> and and send irate emails to my clients telling them that they are stupid
[12:06] <christel> :x
[12:06] <bigcalm_lappy> Dave2: hah
[12:06]  * brobostigon gives his computer a v finger sign every so often, when it decides to playup.
[12:14]  * bigcalm_lappy plays footsie with czajkowski's boss
[12:14] <bigcalm_lappy> And he's smiling
[12:15] <czajkowski> that could be the drugs from the dentist making him smile, he could be crying inside
[12:15] <popey> Whenever I used to clash toes with someone at previous work under the desk he'd always say out loud "ALERT! Airspace Violation!"
[12:15] <czajkowski> LOL
[12:15] <bigcalm_lappy> czajkowski: just what I was thinking, poor lad
[12:15] <bigcalm_lappy> popey: haha
[12:16] <bigcalm_lappy> Humm, might bring my USB rocket launcher with me for the next workplace day
[12:24] <Seeker`> popey: not sure if id have anything interesting or  new to say
[12:24] <popey> doesnt have to be new
[12:25] <popey> most people at oggcamp would likely not have seen or heard of it
[12:28] <directhex> popey, the pickup vehicle was some woman's corsa, with a child in the back seat, and she had to cram it in the boot a bit, so... let me know if it arrives in good shape or not
[12:29] <bigcalm_lappy> I really think the Lighthouse needs a bed or sofa for naps
[12:31] <popey> hah
[12:39]  * AlanBell got a sponsorship email for UDS today :)
[12:43] <czajkowski> yay
[12:47] <popey> excellent
[12:48] <popey> its gonna be a good one
[12:48] <czajkowski> popey: it is full of bacon and syrup every day
[12:49] <popey> hah
[12:49] <Dave2> dammit you're making me want bacon
[12:49] <czajkowski> <--- lunch
[12:49] <Dave2> syrup sounds an odd one, mind
[12:49] <mattt> where's the next uds?
[12:50] <AlanBell> left hand side of America
[12:50] <mattt> ooh, swanky
[12:52] <gord> means longer flight :(
[12:52] <gord> i prefer europe uds's. can get home on the friday
[12:52] <MartijnVdS> Also, less time zone hassle
[12:52] <Dave2> At least it's not in Australia?
[12:53] <AlanBell> they should do one in the Maltings
[12:53] <MartijnVdS> Dave2: I've heard the Australia one was good though
[12:53] <MartijnVdS> Dave2: way way back :)
[12:53] <popey> http://www.marriott.com/hotels/event-planning/floor-plans/oakdt-oakland-marriott-city-center/
[12:53] <popey> mattt: ^^ there
[12:53] <Dave2> That's an interesting header image
[12:53] <Dave2> five tables in the middle of nowhere
[12:54] <AlanBell> I would not have that carpet in my house
[12:55] <Dave2> Also, is there actually a slope in that room?
[13:25] <Laney> mmm UDS
[13:33]  * czajkowski shall bring tea bags just for gord
[13:33] <popey> oooo good call
[13:34] <popey> 2 weeks with no proper tea will be hard
[13:34] <Dave2> THEFT.
[13:35] <czajkowski> popey: aye I met gord on week 2 of uds poor chap was rather distressed
[13:35] <czajkowski> saying that if the bug on hud doesnt go away I shall strangle him in rl :)
[13:35] <AlanBell> are you allowed to abuse cow orkers in such a harsh way?
[13:35] <gord> two weeks of sprinting make gord into zombie
[13:36] <gord> AlanBell, well before, she could do it with no repercussions, now i can contact HR ;)
[13:37] <AlanBell> they do have plenty of nice coffee in the state
[13:37] <AlanBell> s I am not so much a tea drinker
[13:39]  * bigcalm_lappy cheers everybody up with constant hic-ups
[13:39]  * brobostigon points and giggles.
[13:40] <brobostigon> sowwie.
[13:51] <mattt> AlanBell: good coffee, and cheap
[13:51] <mattt> you'll be buzzing the entire UDS :)
[13:52]  * davmor2 is laughing at bigcalm_lappy interrupting mrevell 's meeting with his hiccupping antics :D
[13:52] <bigcalm_lappy> czajkowski is a mean lady
[13:53] <bigcalm_lappy> Laughing at other's miss-fortune
[13:53] <davmor2> bigcalm_lappy: You just figured that out :)
[13:53] <czajkowski> bigcalm_lappy: davmor2 will ye stop banging things!
[13:53] <bigcalm_lappy> davmor2: czajkowski has been nothing but kindness towards me until this day
[13:54] <davmor2> czajkowski: not me
[13:54] <davmor2> it is noisey here today
[13:54] <bigcalm_lappy> Possibly the cafe lady making coffee
[14:08] <directhex> ikonia, so have you tried ubuntu cola? it's phosphoric acid based, so non-premium, but if the flavour works it might be okay. fentimann's is a huge disappointment (although better warm than chilled)
[14:14] <Dave2> I've read that as "prehistoric acid" three times now
[14:14] <ikonia> directhex: I had it years ago when everyone was foolishing going "OMG ubuntu has made a cola drink" and wasn't massivly keen on it, but I need to give it another crack of the whip
[14:14] <ikonia> directhex: I tried Lucozade cola a week or so ago, again. Wasn't impressed
[14:14] <Dave2> omgubuntu made a cola drink?
[14:14] <ikonia> directhex: Pepsi just set the bar too high
[14:15] <ikonia> Dave2: doubtful as there would be 100000000000,00000000000 sheep saying "omgubuntu says it's ace"
[14:16]  * Dave2 eyes that comma
[14:16] <ikonia> it's a lot of sheep
[14:16] <daubers> ubuntu cola tastes a bit like liquorice to me
[14:16]  * daubers wasn't massivley impressed
[14:17] <ikonia> I don't remember it as liquorice, but I remember the not really impressed feeling
[14:17] <popey> bug 949958
[14:18] <popey> anyone else get that?
[14:18] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abw1U9JdnzY
[14:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey you'll like this one. Watch the video: bug 949946
[14:18] <ikonia> bug 2374823472834729 Ubuntu Cola does not have a pleasing taste
[14:18] <popey> lol
[14:18] <popey> thats great fun
[14:19] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not very useful though.
[14:19] <TheOpenSourcerer> One guy said it reminded him of the Car in Knightrider
[14:19] <gord> popey, nope, not on my machine, unless it started recently
[14:20] <gord> popey, tried between gdm -> desktop?
[14:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Anyway - Mrs TheOpenSourcerer is about to sweep me off to the station. Off to London for an OpenERP Partner meetup. Laterz.
[14:20] <AlanBell> o/
[14:22] <directhex> ikonia, lucozade cola is the worst i've tried for years
[14:22] <ikonia> I was not impressed
[14:22] <ikonia> fyi http://www.monarchycatering.com/products/itemviews/red-bull-special-red-lime-cans-GBP.html
[14:23] <popey> yes gord
[14:23] <popey> oh, instead of lightdm?
[14:23] <gord> popey, yeah
[14:24]  * popey tries
[14:24] <ikonia> directhex: considering ordering some "joly"
[14:24] <ikonia> jolt
[14:25] <ikonia> directhex: Boylans Cane Cola, tried that ? or Azteca Cola ?
[14:26] <directhex> ikonia, nope. i had a caribbean brand they had at the local tesco though. a bit artifical, but an interesting full flavour
[14:26] <popey> gord: doesnt happen with gdm
[14:26] <popey> only lightdm
[14:26] <ikonia> just found "coke Zero cherry".....Hmmmm
[14:26] <gord> lightdm bug then i guess
[14:27] <gord> ikonia, pepsi max cherry is amazing
[14:28] <ikonia> gord: pepsi is a different ball park
[14:28] <gord> ikonia, pepsi max is very different from pepsi ;) i hate pepsi
[14:28] <gord> love pepsi max
[14:28] <directhex> isn't pepsi max just a slightly altered diet pepsi recipe, with a different set of sweetner & flavouring ratios?
[14:29] <ikonia> it's no raw
[14:29] <popey> pepsi max ftw
[14:30] <gord> directhex, its basically pepsi with replacements for sugar and twice the caffeine ;) wonderful stuff
[14:30] <gord> especially if your in the US as they don't put bloody corn syrup in it like they do everything else
[14:31] <popey> what is their obsession with corn syrup?
[14:31] <directhex> popey, price.
[14:31] <directhex> all sugar is subsidized. in europe, we subsidize sugar beet production
[14:31] <directhex> in the us they subsidize corn farmers
[14:33] <popey> ah
[14:34] <directhex> there are three main sources of sugar - sugar beet, sugar cane, or chemically altered alternative carbohydrates (i.e. corn)
[14:35] <MartijnVdS> cane sugar++
[14:35] <directhex> there's not much to choose between beet and cane. cane just feels more exostic, because it's grown in hot climates
[14:36] <directhex> whereas beet does best in damp miserable grey countries
[15:24] <Adriannom> hi.  if i plug in a usb drive it appears in the sidebar of file manager for only a millisecond before disappearing again.  kern.log says "Attached SCSI removable disk", and shows no errors.  xubuntu 11.10.  any ideas?
[15:28] <Adriannom> all usb drives do the same.  they work on other machines.  tried all usb ports but same results.  device shows in lsusb
[15:36] <stuphi> With the drive plugged in, run Disk Utility and see what that says.
[15:37] <TOSDroid> Surbiton.
[15:42] <Adriannom> stuphi, i'm in xfce
[15:42] <Adriannom> i don't think it has disk utility
[15:43] <Adriannom> stuphi, what kind of things does disk utility say?  is there a console equivalent?
[15:43] <Adriannom> here's syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874707/
[15:44] <stuphi> Adriannom: Sorry, I just looked at 11.10 and missed the X :-)
[15:45] <Adriannom> :)
[15:48] <stuphi> Adriannom: What does 'cat /etc/mtab' say?
[15:49] <Adriannom> one min, just backing up the usb data with a manual mount before going on :)
[15:50] <stuphi> Adriannom: So you can manually mount. Forget that. I have no idea now.
[15:50] <Adriannom> heh
[15:50] <Adriannom> thanks anyway
[15:50] <Adriannom> probably something to do with whatever is automounting
[15:50] <stuphi> That is where I would look.
[15:51] <stuphi> Trouble is, Ubuntu has made me lazy, as it all 'just works' most of the time.
[15:52] <stuphi> I see there is a new Linux From Scratch book out. Maybe I need to do that again.
[15:53] <danhg_> Hi mrevell - is this coming across?
[15:53] <mrevell> Hello yes
[15:53] <mrevell> this is dog
[15:53] <danhg_> great!
[15:53] <danhg_> Dog?
[15:54] <mrevell> danhg_, http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/217/040/48ACD.png
[15:55] <danhg_> :)
[15:56] <MartijnVdS> Yo, dawg
[15:56] <stuphi> Adriannom: I don't know, but maybe this will help http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/using-removable-media.html
[15:56] <danhg_> MSG <mrevell> <hey>
[15:56] <stuphi> fail
[15:56] <stuphi> :-)
[15:56] <mrevell> :)
[15:56] <Adriannom> thanks stuphi , reading
[15:58] <Adriannom> looks like a problem with xfdesktop
[16:03] <bigcalm_lappy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAjM1pRIFP4 # hello, yes, this is dog
[16:09] <davmor2> bigcalm: you have far too much time on your hands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C6X9vOEkU is better anyway
[16:09] <davmor2> bigcalm_lappy:
[16:18] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Laura Czajkowski] Changes to work items in Launchpad  Blueprints - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2012/03/08/changes-to-work-items-in-launchpad-blueprints/
[16:38] <ali1234> popey: why are you campaigning to remove launchers from secondary monitors? it is unusable that way
[16:38] <ali1234> see bug 769331
[16:40] <popey> I'm not campaigning for anything. Just asking people to vote for whichever way they think works best for them.
[16:40] <popey> The design team asked for the vote
[16:40] <ali1234> er, where is this vote?
[16:41] <popey> omg
[16:41] <popey> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/poll-multi-monitor-launchers-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:41] <ali1234> i've only seen the ML discussion where you specifically said that having launcher on all monitors is bad
[16:42] <BigRedS> Popey in having-an-opinion shocker
[16:42] <BigRedS> :)
[16:42] <popey> ah okay
[16:42] <popey> well, for me it sucked when I had a launcher on both desktops, always out, with the barrier at the screen edge
[16:43] <popey> however I can see how it might be better with hiding launchers, or no barrier, or some other magic
[16:43]  * Laney wonders if they know about Feature and User Interface Freeze
[16:43] <popey> ☺
[16:44] <ali1234> well the obvious fix for the barrier problem is LET US DECIDE WHICH EDGE THE LAUNCHER GOES ON
[16:44] <popey> lolchoice
[16:45] <ali1234> you know, like we've been asking for since unity was released
[16:45] <ali1234> the simple fact is if you are running a program fullscreen, you can't access the launcher on that monitor, nor the workspace switcher
[16:47] <ali1234> i wonder how the voting would go if one of the options was "make it optional and also let use decide which edge thelauncher goes on"
[16:49] <popey> haha
[16:50] <ali1234> "I want launcher on the left on left monitor and launcher on the right on right monitor."
[16:51] <ali1234> this is so logical and obvious that it will never happen
[16:51] <BigRedS> This is the future of the Linux desktop. It's *supposed* to be confusing
[16:52] <BigRedS> I think it was felt that it was all getting rather too eay
[16:52] <BigRedS> *easy
[16:54] <AlanBell> yes I would like launcher on the right for the screen om the right
[17:07] <DJones> Anybody with rasberry pi's on order read this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/08/raspberry_pi_delayed_networking/
[17:08] <popey> yeah
[17:24] <meet> hi
[17:27] <popey> lo
[17:28] <BigRedS> middle
[17:50] <TOSDroid> Think I just saw AlanBell wizz past on 	a Boris bike in a hat!
[17:52] <TOSDroid> Indeed I did.
[17:52] <TOSDroid> Is twitter down?
[17:53] <slvr> workin' here
[17:54] <popey> haha
[17:56] <lazarus_> popey: hey
[17:57] <popey> hi
[18:15] <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/177818081022836738/photo/1
[18:15] <czajkowski> hehehe
[18:31] <popey> chaps
[18:31] <popey> i am using empathy with bonjour/avahi/zeroconf chat
[18:31] <popey> i can see my kids machines on the network, but no chat ever goes between them, they don't see what I say and I can't see what they say
[18:31] <dwatkins> Does it read your mind, popey? ;)
[18:31] <popey> i am on 12.04 and they are on 11.04
[18:47] <popey> :( I can't chat with my kids via telepathy. Anyone else got this issue?
[18:47] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-salut/+bug/950164
[19:11] <gord> popey, nope, used it today on a fully upgraded machine
[19:17] <popey> gord: did you use it between 12.04 and non-12.04?
[19:18] <gord> popey, nope, just 12.04 -> 12.04
[19:18] <popey> yeah, the bug is specifically between 12.04 and non-12.04
[19:18] <popey> 12.04 to 12.04 works fine
[19:19] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jonathan Riddell] CeBIT 2012 - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4543
[19:22] <gord> ah
[19:25] <popey> directhex: does Jonny Lamb still work for you?
[19:25] <directhex> yes, but he's in canadistan at the moment
[19:25] <popey> wondering if I should upstream my bug report in telepathy-salut
[19:26] <popey> telepathy-salut is a collabora product isnt it?
[19:26] <popey> oh, freedesktop
[19:27] <directhex> popey: all of telepathy will end up in some collaboran's mailbox, but we host it on fdo
[19:29]  * popey goes out for curry
[19:29] <popey> ttfn
[20:05] <apacheuk> anyone else having issues with the ubuntuOne music store this evening?
[20:15] <apacheuk> all good again
[20:19] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Andrew]  - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/466/
[20:50] <Azelphur> Anyone know if customs would charge me for this, and if so roughly how much? http://tinyurl.com/7wwwdge
[20:53] <DJones> If anybody uses polly for twitter etc, do you ever find it crashes and just closes every now and again
[20:54] <ali1234> Azelphur: why don't you just go to curries and buy a 32" TV?
[20:54] <Azelphur> ali1234: have you seen the resolution on that thing
[20:56] <ali1234> that doesn't answer my question...
[20:58] <Azelphur> ali1234: because the resolution is nowhere near high enough?
[20:58] <Azelphur> and also, 32" is tiny, even compared to my current setup?
[20:58] <Azelphur> basically, huge downgrade?
[20:58] <ali1234> so buy 4 of them
[20:59] <Azelphur> ali1234: there is no TV in curries that will outperform my current setup, let alone that one
[20:59] <ali1234> that monitor is garbage
[20:59] <czajkowski> mayeb you have an over complciated set up
[20:59] <czajkowski> :)
[20:59] <ali1234> yamakasi, really?
[21:00] <ali1234> also it only has DVI
[21:00] <Azelphur> ali1234: how so? I've done some research, it's apparently using reasonably high quality samsung panels.
[21:00] <Azelphur> there's reviews all over the place, it's generating quite a bit of buzz tbh
[21:00] <ali1234> it needs dual link dvi?
[21:01] <Azelphur> yep
[21:01] <ali1234> it even says it's an LG panel
[21:01] <Azelphur> derp, my bad
[21:02] <Azelphur> mixing LG and samsung for no apparent reason, but LG are good too obviously
[21:02] <Azelphur> ali1234: http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270 lots of good info on here
[21:02] <ali1234> maybe because that yamakasi logo is a blatant rip off of the samsung one lol
[21:03] <Azelphur> haha
[21:05] <czajkowski> we haeva  cool samsung tv here
[21:05] <czajkowski> does 2d->3d conversions
[21:05] <czajkowski> and is also a 3d  tv
[21:05] <czajkowski> amazing clear display
[21:06] <ali1234> do you find it makes films look like tv shows?
[21:06] <ali1234> ie star wars looks like an episode of doctor who
[21:06] <czajkowski> nope
[21:07] <ali1234> turn on motion smoothing then :)
[21:07] <ali1234> the effect is really amusing
[21:26] <s-fox> Hello.
[21:31] <mattt> hey there
[21:33] <s-fox> Hello mattt, how're you?
[21:36] <MartijnVdS> _something_ changed in gnome-terminal that broke mouse-scrolling
[21:36] <mattt> s-fox: gewd gewd, you?
[21:38] <s-fox> I'm good thank you,  just poking around on the ubuntu forums
[21:38] <MartijnVdS> poor you ;)
[21:38] <s-fox> Why do you say that MartijnVdS?
[21:38] <MartijnVdS> I can't stand forums.. there's never an easy way to keep up with just the interesting bits
[21:40] <s-fox> MartijnVdS find the threads you like and subscribe
[21:40] <s-fox> :)
[21:40] <MartijnVdS> but then the thread only gets 3 replies
[21:40] <MartijnVdS> I'm just not forum-compatible
[21:41] <jacobw> irc ftw
[21:42] <MartijnVdS> irc, or if you need to _do_ something some kind of shared document (Google Docs, etherpad-alike)
[21:43] <mattt> s-fox: just skimmed over your post about the forums
[21:48] <s-fox> Pretty rare for me to post anything on my blog that a) goes to the planet and b) is over a 200 words mattt ;)
[21:53] <Azelphur> ali1234: I just found a way to get that monitor for £152
[21:54] <mattt> s-fox: :)
[21:54] <mattt> s-fox: well, looks like it got some traction
[21:55] <ali1234> Azelphur: oh yeah?
[21:56] <Azelphur> ali1234: yea, from some korean shop though but I found a company that imports
[21:56] <Azelphur> http://item.gmarket.co.kr/detailview/Item.asp?goodscode=234109902&pos_shop_cd=SH&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_seqno=949952607&search_keyword=Q270
[21:56] <s-fox> I am tired the "them and us" thing mattt, i would like to see better interaction. We are all on the same side
[21:56] <Azelphur> 268,800 south korean won = £152 \o/
[21:56] <ali1234> just take a holiday in south korea
[21:56] <ali1234> and take 4 empty suitcases
[21:57] <directhex> plus shipping plus tax
[21:57] <Azelphur> haha
[21:58] <mattt> s-fox: don't use the forums to be honest, but hope you guys get it all figured out :)
[21:59] <s-fox> i hope so too mattt
[21:59] <s-fox> thank you :)
[22:07] <ali1234> ugh, ubuntu achievements is pulling in horrible horrible couchdb
[22:09] <directhex> the elders of the internet declared sql to be evil. nosql all the things!
[22:10] <MartijnVdS> no that was the youngsters of the internet
[22:14] <ali1234> lol the front end is horribly broken as well
[22:14] <ali1234> it seems to be using a html component for nearly all the UI
[22:15] <ali1234> said html component still has a "reload" option on right click, which gives you a listing of / for some reason
[22:15] <ali1234> also the accomplishments don't even work
[22:16] <ali1234> maybe a problem with launchpad though
[22:26] <ali1234> i think i crashed the verification server or something
[22:35] <AlanBell> evening all
[22:36] <czajkowski> AlanBell: hey
[22:36] <czajkowski> good day ?
[22:40] <AlanBell> yup
[22:40] <AlanBell> on a train home now
[23:19] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Call All Django Web Developers - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/03/08/calling-all-django-web-developers/