[00:04] yp [00:04] yo [00:04] even === chalced is now known as chalcedony [06:03] mattt: collectd is very nice -- it speaks snmp too. [07:39] "Holey Optochip" batman! http://is.gd/VPLKkq :-D from [07:42] ಠ_ಠ [07:45] Morning [07:46] Hey popey [07:47] Loving the Holey Optochip story ^^ [07:47] And I see Nvidia join the Linux Foundation. [07:47] yeah, that could be good for us ☺ [07:48] TheOpenSourcerer: don't expect them to come up with specs/non-blob drivers anytime soon though [07:48] Yes MartijnVdS - I agree. [07:48] But all main GPU builders are now members. [07:48] That's good. [07:49] Shows the strength and breadth of Linux proliferation iuam [07:50] I'm more interested in up to date tegra drivers and armhf builds of their driver [07:51] I'm sure that is what is motivating them. [07:51] popey: I'd love to se a nouveau port to ARM :) [07:51] popey: just to keep them on their toes [07:52] nouveau doesnt work on arm? [07:52] Well tegra chips aren't geforce chips [07:53] are they? [07:53] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2011-April/008135.html [07:56] indeed, which is why i wondered why you said "arm" and not "tegra" :D [08:01] well they tend to go together [08:06] Morning all [08:33] moin [08:33] Moin indeed === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [09:21] morning you funky, funky people oh and czajkowski PROD! [09:21] aloha [09:21] davmor2: how are you my dear! [09:22] Gooooood morning peeps! [09:22] czajkowski: very tired [09:22] awwwww [09:24] * bigcalm_lappy falls asleep on his keyboard [09:24] I think I can hear bacon frying [09:25] Mmmmm, might wake me up [09:30] czajkowski: here have a hug [09:30] MooDoo: me owld mucka [09:30] I smell bacon! [09:32] bigcalm_lappy: has gone cappuccino hunting, well bacon sarnie hunting with the chance of coffee to follow :D [09:33] Morning all! :D [09:43] :) [09:44] Just had coffee and choc digestives [09:44] morning all [09:44] Morning. [09:50] \o [09:51] Baaaaaaaaaaaaaacon [09:52] shududp [09:53] Come to the Lighthouse in Wolverhampton and have yourself a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon sandwich [09:58] I just felt incredibly vegetarian as I wondered whether that was a joke about bacon and sheep [10:00] Jono Bacon? [10:01] Hi all, im new to the community!. Look forward to getting involved and chatting to like minded people! [10:03] welcome Mythx [10:04] Cheers! [10:04] hello Mythx [10:04] Morning [10:05] Welcome to a better, freer life, Mythx [10:06] I know freedom is subjective, but I am biased :) [10:07] I have always dabbled with Ubuntu, but since changing jobs and meeting another like minded people, we are starting to convert our buisness over to using Ubuntu Server.. Its a long process but i haven't enjoyed work this much for a long time [10:08] :) [10:08] Mythx: that's great news - I know that very same feeling and it rocks [10:08] knowing you've got a community of people to help you - if you put in the effort, then you open up a whole new world of opportunities [10:09] a bit like learning French [10:09] Yeah it is!, so i thought since im going to be more heavily involved in Ubuntu then i would get involved with the community [10:12] Good news. [10:13] tres bien [10:13] ;) [10:45] No mgdm? [10:45] NO! mgds? [10:45] or mgdm even [10:46] AlanBell: really good videos you've made [10:46] what about mgdm? [10:50] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190050 if anyone wants to help a new person to ubuntu [10:50] Hello everyone. [10:51] andylockran: mgdm isnt here :( [10:51] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/190047 oh dear they seem a bit lost [10:51] Hey s-fox [10:51] Hello Mythx, how are you? [10:52] * Seeker` wanted to show him http://cjo20.net/sponza4.png http://cjo20.net/sponza5.png [10:52] hello s-fox [10:52] Good Thanks, Its sunny today so i cant complain! [10:52] Hello davmor2 , you okay? :) [10:52] no tooo tired to concentrate [10:54] coffee and cake gets me through the day... [10:55] Seeker`: you should come to oggcamp this year and talk about your illuminated TV project [10:56] it's stunning [10:56] I've already started spec mint up [10:56] mine [10:57] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders where oggcamp 101 will be? [10:59] * BigRedS approves of the numbering convention [11:04] oh today is gonna be a fail day ! [11:04] good morning everyone. [11:04] \o [11:04] o/ [11:05] \o/ [11:08] * bigcalm_lappy cattle prods mrevell [11:08] good morning lovelies [11:08] Good morning christel my dear :) [11:09] popey: ooh you have decided to do oggcamp? do you have dates yet? [11:09] nope [11:12] Today's track getting me motivated: http://open.spotify.com/track/5enxm2GCRdqTXlAANlx8Cr [11:12] bigcalm_lappy: oi no pikcing on my boss! [11:12] whatever you do, don't ask Dave2 and daubers to help you pick the date! [11:12] czajkowski: he's a bit numb today, he needs waking up [11:13] Location, not date! [11:13] AlanBell suggested a date, I went "yeah, fine by me" [11:14] well, we do have a location and date in mind but need to confirm it [11:16] not penzance please [11:16] Carlisle. [11:17] popey, shipped [11:17] thank you! [11:19] oggcamp was briefly discussed at the hackspace meeting yesterday [11:20] czajkowski: mrevell is providing much amusement for us today :D [11:21] czajkowski: be nice to boss day today I think [11:21] I'm always nice to my boss [11:21] czajkowski: nicer then [11:21] czajkowski: just don't offer him food [11:21] He's self harming himself with a beefburger [11:22] reminder folks mothers day is sunday week. [11:22] I bought a card 2 weeks ago :) [11:22] Just hope I remember to post it [11:25] daubers: oh? [11:26] thanks czajkowski - I'm always confused as to whether the US uses a different date for mothers day [11:26] dwatkins: it does I think [11:26] later in the year, iirc === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [11:38] popey: Indeed :) Forward planning to what events we might want to get involved in/do events for [11:39] mrevell_ damn you imposter [11:39] dagnamit [11:49] haha [11:52] Which one of you killed spotify for me? :( [11:52] Sorry! [11:53] Are you breaking your fixed VM line bigcalm_lappy [11:53] VM aren't happy! [11:53] diplo: I'm in the Lighthouse in Wolverhampton with davmor2, mrevell & gord [11:56] ah :D [11:56] is it horribly sunny? [11:56] So I get to blame this ADSL connection [11:56] Well the four of you are breakign stuff [11:56] Dave2: half of that is true [11:57] * davmor2 prods bigcalm_lappy to prove it [11:58] Aint the lighthouse a cinema? Never been.. Only heard it mentioned? [11:59] It's a "media centre" which includes a cinema [11:59] Ah right, so like a gallery and stuff/ [11:59] Yus [11:59] It's a media centre with windows. [12:00] They have a room which they offer out for free for peeps to work in and use their wifi. Just buy a few coffees in the day [12:00] Dave2: lots of windows [12:00] lots of sun [12:00] Brill, there was a place like that in Liverpool i visited once, but didnt realise there was one in Wolves.. [12:00] i wish i was in wolves so i could coworkspace with you :( [12:01] christel: that would be cool [12:01] yesss [12:01] I work the other side of Brum, between Birmingham and Coventry [12:01] except you'd never come back, i mumble obscenities at my computer all the time [12:01] :D [12:01] cow ork space [12:04] christel: the workplace day is more akin to #lugradio than here ;) [12:05] What, mostly quiet with a bit of talking every so often? [12:05] Still hanging around despite not having a real purpose any more? [12:05] haha [12:05] i also pull faces at my computer all the time [12:06] and and send irate emails to my clients telling them that they are stupid [12:06] :x [12:06] Dave2: hah [12:06] * brobostigon gives his computer a v finger sign every so often, when it decides to playup. [12:14] * bigcalm_lappy plays footsie with czajkowski's boss [12:14] And he's smiling [12:15] that could be the drugs from the dentist making him smile, he could be crying inside [12:15] Whenever I used to clash toes with someone at previous work under the desk he'd always say out loud "ALERT! Airspace Violation!" [12:15] LOL [12:15] czajkowski: just what I was thinking, poor lad [12:15] popey: haha [12:16] Humm, might bring my USB rocket launcher with me for the next workplace day [12:24] popey: not sure if id have anything interesting or new to say [12:24] doesnt have to be new [12:25] most people at oggcamp would likely not have seen or heard of it [12:28] popey, the pickup vehicle was some woman's corsa, with a child in the back seat, and she had to cram it in the boot a bit, so... let me know if it arrives in good shape or not [12:29] I really think the Lighthouse needs a bed or sofa for naps [12:31] hah === ubuntubhoy is now known as Batguin === Batguin is now known as PervMan === PervMan is now known as UbuntuBhoy [12:39] * AlanBell got a sponsorship email for UDS today :) [12:43] yay [12:47] excellent [12:48] its gonna be a good one [12:48] popey: it is full of bacon and syrup every day [12:49] hah [12:49] dammit you're making me want bacon [12:49] <--- lunch [12:49] syrup sounds an odd one, mind [12:49] where's the next uds? [12:50] left hand side of America [12:50] ooh, swanky [12:52] means longer flight :( [12:52] i prefer europe uds's. can get home on the friday [12:52] Also, less time zone hassle [12:52] At least it's not in Australia? [12:53] they should do one in the Maltings [12:53] Dave2: I've heard the Australia one was good though [12:53] Dave2: way way back :) [12:53] http://www.marriott.com/hotels/event-planning/floor-plans/oakdt-oakland-marriott-city-center/ [12:53] mattt: ^^ there [12:53] That's an interesting header image [12:53] five tables in the middle of nowhere [12:54] I would not have that carpet in my house [12:55] Also, is there actually a slope in that room? [13:25] mmm UDS [13:33] * czajkowski shall bring tea bags just for gord [13:33] oooo good call [13:34] 2 weeks with no proper tea will be hard [13:34] THEFT. [13:35] popey: aye I met gord on week 2 of uds poor chap was rather distressed [13:35] saying that if the bug on hud doesnt go away I shall strangle him in rl :) [13:35] are you allowed to abuse cow orkers in such a harsh way? [13:35] two weeks of sprinting make gord into zombie [13:36] AlanBell, well before, she could do it with no repercussions, now i can contact HR ;) [13:37] they do have plenty of nice coffee in the state [13:37] s I am not so much a tea drinker [13:39] * bigcalm_lappy cheers everybody up with constant hic-ups [13:39] * brobostigon points and giggles. [13:40] sowwie. [13:51] AlanBell: good coffee, and cheap [13:51] you'll be buzzing the entire UDS :) [13:52] * davmor2 is laughing at bigcalm_lappy interrupting mrevell 's meeting with his hiccupping antics :D [13:52] czajkowski is a mean lady [13:53] Laughing at other's miss-fortune [13:53] bigcalm_lappy: You just figured that out :) [13:53] bigcalm_lappy: davmor2 will ye stop banging things! [13:53] davmor2: czajkowski has been nothing but kindness towards me until this day [13:54] czajkowski: not me [13:54] it is noisey here today [13:54] Possibly the cafe lady making coffee [14:08] ikonia, so have you tried ubuntu cola? it's phosphoric acid based, so non-premium, but if the flavour works it might be okay. fentimann's is a huge disappointment (although better warm than chilled) [14:14] I've read that as "prehistoric acid" three times now [14:14] directhex: I had it years ago when everyone was foolishing going "OMG ubuntu has made a cola drink" and wasn't massivly keen on it, but I need to give it another crack of the whip [14:14] directhex: I tried Lucozade cola a week or so ago, again. Wasn't impressed [14:14] omgubuntu made a cola drink? [14:14] directhex: Pepsi just set the bar too high [14:15] Dave2: doubtful as there would be 100000000000,00000000000 sheep saying "omgubuntu says it's ace" [14:16] * Dave2 eyes that comma [14:16] it's a lot of sheep [14:16] ubuntu cola tastes a bit like liquorice to me [14:16] * daubers wasn't massivley impressed [14:17] I don't remember it as liquorice, but I remember the not really impressed feeling [14:17] bug 949958 [14:17] Launchpad bug 949958 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Full screen video corruption on nvidia betwen lightdm and desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949958 [14:18] anyone else get that? [14:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abw1U9JdnzY [14:18] popey you'll like this one. Watch the video: bug 949946 [14:18] Launchpad bug 949946 in OpenERP Web "Progress tag value in Projects list incorrect value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949946 [14:18] bug 2374823472834729 Ubuntu Cola does not have a pleasing taste [14:18] Error: Launchpad bug 2374823472834729 could not be found [14:18] lol [14:18] thats great fun [14:19] Not very useful though. [14:19] One guy said it reminded him of the Car in Knightrider [14:19] popey, nope, not on my machine, unless it started recently [14:20] popey, tried between gdm -> desktop? [14:20] Anyway - Mrs TheOpenSourcerer is about to sweep me off to the station. Off to London for an OpenERP Partner meetup. Laterz. [14:20] o/ [14:22] ikonia, lucozade cola is the worst i've tried for years [14:22] I was not impressed [14:22] fyi http://www.monarchycatering.com/products/itemviews/red-bull-special-red-lime-cans-GBP.html [14:23] yes gord [14:23] oh, instead of lightdm? [14:23] popey, yeah [14:24] * popey tries [14:24] directhex: considering ordering some "joly" [14:24] jolt [14:25] directhex: Boylans Cane Cola, tried that ? or Azteca Cola ? [14:26] ikonia, nope. i had a caribbean brand they had at the local tesco though. a bit artifical, but an interesting full flavour [14:26] gord: doesnt happen with gdm [14:26] only lightdm [14:26] just found "coke Zero cherry".....Hmmmm [14:26] lightdm bug then i guess [14:27] ikonia, pepsi max cherry is amazing [14:28] gord: pepsi is a different ball park === nothingspecial is now known as angela-android [14:28] ikonia, pepsi max is very different from pepsi ;) i hate pepsi [14:28] love pepsi max [14:28] isn't pepsi max just a slightly altered diet pepsi recipe, with a different set of sweetner & flavouring ratios? === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [14:29] it's no raw [14:29] pepsi max ftw [14:30] directhex, its basically pepsi with replacements for sugar and twice the caffeine ;) wonderful stuff [14:30] especially if your in the US as they don't put bloody corn syrup in it like they do everything else [14:31] what is their obsession with corn syrup? [14:31] popey, price. [14:31] all sugar is subsidized. in europe, we subsidize sugar beet production [14:31] in the us they subsidize corn farmers [14:33] ah [14:34] there are three main sources of sugar - sugar beet, sugar cane, or chemically altered alternative carbohydrates (i.e. corn) [14:35] cane sugar++ [14:35] there's not much to choose between beet and cane. cane just feels more exostic, because it's grown in hot climates [14:36] whereas beet does best in damp miserable grey countries [15:24] hi. if i plug in a usb drive it appears in the sidebar of file manager for only a millisecond before disappearing again. kern.log says "Attached SCSI removable disk", and shows no errors. xubuntu 11.10. any ideas? [15:28] all usb drives do the same. they work on other machines. tried all usb ports but same results. device shows in lsusb [15:36] With the drive plugged in, run Disk Utility and see what that says. [15:37] Surbiton. [15:42] stuphi, i'm in xfce [15:42] i don't think it has disk utility [15:43] stuphi, what kind of things does disk utility say? is there a console equivalent? [15:43] here's syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874707/ [15:44] Adriannom: Sorry, I just looked at 11.10 and missed the X :-) [15:45] :) [15:48] Adriannom: What does 'cat /etc/mtab' say? [15:49] one min, just backing up the usb data with a manual mount before going on :) [15:50] Adriannom: So you can manually mount. Forget that. I have no idea now. [15:50] heh [15:50] thanks anyway [15:50] probably something to do with whatever is automounting [15:50] That is where I would look. [15:51] Trouble is, Ubuntu has made me lazy, as it all 'just works' most of the time. [15:52] I see there is a new Linux From Scratch book out. Maybe I need to do that again. [15:53] Hi mrevell - is this coming across? [15:53] Hello yes [15:53] this is dog [15:53] great! [15:53] Dog? [15:54] danhg_, http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/217/040/48ACD.png [15:55] :) [15:56] Yo, dawg [15:56] Adriannom: I don't know, but maybe this will help http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/using-removable-media.html [15:56] MSG [15:56] fail [15:56] :-) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:56] :) [15:56] thanks stuphi , reading [15:58] looks like a problem with xfdesktop [16:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAjM1pRIFP4 # hello, yes, this is dog [16:09] bigcalm: you have far too much time on your hands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C6X9vOEkU is better anyway [16:09] bigcalm_lappy: [16:18] [Laura Czajkowski] Changes to work items in Launchpad Blueprints - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2012/03/08/changes-to-work-items-in-launchpad-blueprints/ [16:38] popey: why are you campaigning to remove launchers from secondary monitors? it is unusable that way [16:38] see bug 769331 [16:38] Launchpad bug 769331 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cannot launch programs while running a fullscreen application on primary display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769331 [16:40] I'm not campaigning for anything. Just asking people to vote for whichever way they think works best for them. [16:40] The design team asked for the vote [16:40] er, where is this vote? [16:41] omg [16:41] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/poll-multi-monitor-launchers-in-ubuntu-12-04/ [16:41] i've only seen the ML discussion where you specifically said that having launcher on all monitors is bad [16:42] Popey in having-an-opinion shocker [16:42] :) [16:42] ah okay [16:42] well, for me it sucked when I had a launcher on both desktops, always out, with the barrier at the screen edge [16:43] however I can see how it might be better with hiding launchers, or no barrier, or some other magic [16:43] * Laney wonders if they know about Feature and User Interface Freeze [16:43] ☺ [16:44] well the obvious fix for the barrier problem is LET US DECIDE WHICH EDGE THE LAUNCHER GOES ON [16:44] lolchoice [16:45] you know, like we've been asking for since unity was released [16:45] the simple fact is if you are running a program fullscreen, you can't access the launcher on that monitor, nor the workspace switcher [16:47] i wonder how the voting would go if one of the options was "make it optional and also let use decide which edge thelauncher goes on" [16:49] haha [16:50] "I want launcher on the left on left monitor and launcher on the right on right monitor." [16:51] this is so logical and obvious that it will never happen [16:51] This is the future of the Linux desktop. It's *supposed* to be confusing [16:52] I think it was felt that it was all getting rather too eay [16:52] *easy [16:54] yes I would like launcher on the right for the screen om the right [17:07] Anybody with rasberry pi's on order read this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/08/raspberry_pi_delayed_networking/ [17:08] yeah [17:24] hi [17:27] lo [17:28] middle [17:50] Think I just saw AlanBell wizz past on a Boris bike in a hat! [17:52] Indeed I did. [17:52] Is twitter down? [17:53] workin' here [17:54] haha [17:56] popey: hey [17:57] hi [18:15] https://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/177818081022836738/photo/1 [18:15] hehehe [18:31] chaps [18:31] i am using empathy with bonjour/avahi/zeroconf chat [18:31] i can see my kids machines on the network, but no chat ever goes between them, they don't see what I say and I can't see what they say [18:31] Does it read your mind, popey? ;) [18:31] i am on 12.04 and they are on 11.04 [18:47] :( I can't chat with my kids via telepathy. Anyone else got this issue? [18:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-salut/+bug/950164 [18:48] Launchpad bug 950164 in telepathy-salut (Ubuntu) "Telepathy 'people nearby' in 12.04 never receives chat messages" [Undecided,New] [19:11] popey, nope, used it today on a fully upgraded machine [19:17] gord: did you use it between 12.04 and non-12.04? [19:18] popey, nope, just 12.04 -> 12.04 [19:18] yeah, the bug is specifically between 12.04 and non-12.04 [19:18] 12.04 to 12.04 works fine [19:19] [Jonathan Riddell] CeBIT 2012 - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4543 [19:22] ah [19:25] directhex: does Jonny Lamb still work for you? [19:25] yes, but he's in canadistan at the moment [19:25] wondering if I should upstream my bug report in telepathy-salut [19:26] telepathy-salut is a collabora product isnt it? [19:26] oh, freedesktop [19:27] popey: all of telepathy will end up in some collaboran's mailbox, but we host it on fdo [19:29] * popey goes out for curry [19:29] ttfn [20:05] anyone else having issues with the ubuntuOne music store this evening? [20:15] all good again [20:19] [Andrew] - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/466/ [20:50] Anyone know if customs would charge me for this, and if so roughly how much? http://tinyurl.com/7wwwdge [20:53] If anybody uses polly for twitter etc, do you ever find it crashes and just closes every now and again [20:54] Azelphur: why don't you just go to curries and buy a 32" TV? [20:54] ali1234: have you seen the resolution on that thing [20:56] that doesn't answer my question... [20:58] ali1234: because the resolution is nowhere near high enough? [20:58] and also, 32" is tiny, even compared to my current setup? [20:58] basically, huge downgrade? [20:58] so buy 4 of them [20:59] ali1234: there is no TV in curries that will outperform my current setup, let alone that one [20:59] that monitor is garbage [20:59] mayeb you have an over complciated set up [20:59] :) [20:59] yamakasi, really? [21:00] also it only has DVI [21:00] ali1234: how so? I've done some research, it's apparently using reasonably high quality samsung panels. [21:00] there's reviews all over the place, it's generating quite a bit of buzz tbh [21:00]