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ColonelPanic001hi01:44
snap-lhowdy01:51
rick_h_snap-l: all_true = [key for key, val in some_dict.iteritems() if val]01:57
ColonelPanic001snap-l: a game of Go soon. I haven't forgotten.02:03
rick_h_widox: dude!!!02:05
snap-lbusted!02:05
snap-lColonelPanic001: Definitely02:05
rick_h_widox: where are you hacking on your vim config at?02:05
widoxuughhhh02:08
widoxhome02:08
widoxno car tonight :(02:08
rick_h_widox: ah, gotcha02:08
rick_h_saw your vim commit on my rss feed and was like wtf!02:09
widox:)02:09
widoxnot as fun at my apt. although, my couch is more comfortable02:10
ColonelPanic001okay, who's "demeris", or something like that?02:16
ColonelPanic001someone just came up and was asking about CHC02:16
ColonelPanic001said they told her about it.02:16
widoxColonelPanic001: dunno02:18
ColonelPanic001just curious02:20
widoxdoes that bring Downriver CHC up to 3 now?02:21
ColonelPanic001tonight it does02:25
ColonelPanic001good luck for her - we haven't been meeting for a month or so02:25
ColonelPanic001just been busy, etc02:25
snap-lColonelPanic001: THere was one person that showed up once at the MH CHC02:42
snap-lSend them our way. :)02:44
jrwrenrick_h_: what do you use distribute for?03:05
jrwrenooh, flake8 looks cool... its like lint for python03:06
brouschDistribute is for installing modules03:22
rick_h_jrwren: yea, flake8 is a mix of pep8 and pyflakes03:39
rick_h_both are packages to run lint/code sanity aginst your stuff03:39
rick_h_jrwren: distribute is something of a middle between setup tools and packaging (in 3.3)03:39
rick_h_ok, how can I force something to return a return code of 003:48
rick_h_I'm trying jshint bookie/static/js/bookie/* extensions/chrome_ext/chrome.js --jslint-reporter 1>jslint.out 2>/dev/null03:49
rick_h_but returns a 103:49
rick_h_nvm, just || true it03:51
=== mydogsnameisrudy is now known as monkeyjuice
rick_h_morning12:01
rick_h_bah, now ec2 adds a medium box12:02
rick_h_after I've got one year paid plans for the two smalls :/12:02
snap-lrick_h_: Lovely. :)12:23
mydogsnameisrudymorning from the NOrth12:23
snap-lHello from down-state. :)12:27
jrwrenmorning!13:01
jrwrenooh... medium eh?  I need to check out hte specs.13:01
snap-lHad a quickie power blip13:13
rick_h_ouch13:14
brouschsolar flare or wind?13:16
snap-lAt least it isn't like Belleville, where a dip like that meant we had to boil water for the next few days.13:17
snap-lbrousch: I'm thinking wind13:17
snap-lbut it might be solar flare13:17
brouschI went to Lansing yesterday for a Django meeting. There was also a group of developers from owosso there. that was unexpected13:18
brouschthey were from http://www.covenanteyes.com/about-covenant-eyes/careers/current-openings/13:18
jrwrenzomg, i should go to django meeting!14:34
brouschyou should?14:36
jrwrenyes, I'm doing django14:36
jrwrenreading a book right now14:36
jrwrenapress14:37
jrwren"the definitive guide"14:37
jrwrengotta become django guru ASAP14:37
snap-lWhic definitive guide?14:37
jrwrengot it running in my venv no problem yesterday, without ever escalting priv.14:37
jrwrenso far, so good.14:37
snap-lit's been through several revisions.14:37
brouschjrwren: i can help a bit14:37
snap-ljrwren: You shouldn't have to sudo to run python code. :)14:38
snap-lThis isn't Ruby.14:38
jrwrensnap-l: exactly!14:40
jrwrenrick said he does sudo to get his venv going.14:40
jrwrenbut i was glad that I didn't even have to do that.14:40
jrwren"The definitiive guide to Django web development done right" 200914:40
jrwrenits fine so far.14:40
jrwreni'm already seeing big diffrences from rails and even TG14:41
jrwrenbut nothing terrible.14:41
brouschsudo for venv?14:41
brouschthat doesn't make sense14:41
jrwrento install it.14:43
brouschah, i actually just run it without installing it14:43
jrwrenevery install method i found on web said "sudo easy_install virtualenv"14:44
jrwrenbut I didn't awnt to do that.14:44
brouschpython3.2 ../Tools/virtualenv-1.7/virtualenv.py --distribute venv14:44
brouschyou just need to unzip it and then you can use it like that14:45
jrwrenthat is pretty much what I did :)14:45
brouschalso how i use it on dreamhost14:45
rick_h_jrwren: you can do it tons of ways, I just do that so that I've now got a system virtualenv command14:45
rick_h_jrwren: you can download a single virtualenv.py file and add it to your personal bin dir or whatever you want14:45
rick_h_tons of ways to do it actually14:45
jrwrenyup.14:46
jrwreni was just looking for the way I wanted, and I didn't see it out there much.14:46
brouschi do it that way becaue it's annoying to install it for all the versions of python. i use the same script for all versions14:47
rick_h_ok, ups man has another 1.5hrs to get his butt here!16:41
rick_h_where's gps tracking when you need it? "oh he's down the street! /me hops on bike"16:41
brouschwhat essential thing did you order over the internet that you need before you flight this time?16:41
rick_h_new keyboard I want to take with me16:42
rick_h_made room in my carry on and everything16:42
rick_h_thought I ordered overnight shipping, but ended up shipping two day...so ... waiting on the day of the flight16:42
rick_h_guess "expidited overpriced shipping" !== 'overnight'16:42
brouschyou're bringing a whole keyboard?16:43
rick_h_brousch: I will if it arrives16:43
brouschdid you pack your 30" monitor too?16:43
rick_h_I'm going to be there a week16:43
Scott_firebetaapple keyboard?16:43
rick_h_no, but i did pack a folding laptop stand thingy16:43
rick_h_and an external mouse16:44
rick_h_and two power cords16:44
brouschyou could box up your desk and have it delivered to your room16:44
rick_h_I think sprints would go better if I could do my standing desk16:44
rick_h_definitely16:44
rick_h_I'm going for a week, might as well be comfy :)16:45
brouschi would lean towards portability16:46
rick_h_I am, everything is carry on.16:46
rick_h_laptop is only 12" very portable16:47
brouschthe less i have to lug around the better16:47
rick_h_I'm bringing shorts just to make more room!16:47
brouschgoing commando too?16:47
rick_h_that would save some space...hmmmm16:47
brouschsandals or water shoes?16:47
rick_h_the big thing is socks, I like this big cushy socks and they take up a ton of space when you pack 7 days of them16:47
brouschwear your vibram toefingers things16:48
rick_h_I never got those, but might have to try that out I guess. Would leave a lot more space16:48
brouschmaybe it was greg-g16:48
rick_h_jcastro:16:49
brouschi love that you made room in your luggage for a keyboard at the expense of pants16:50
rick_h_I have priorities, and have missed shorts season16:50
brouschbring 1 shirt?16:51
rick_h_no, but do plan on getting at least two there, so I didn't bring the full week's worth :)16:52
brouschgolf clubs?16:53
rick_h_heh, nope16:53
ColonelPanic001<3 club metal episodes17:00
snap-lColonelPanic001: Awesome. Glad you're enjoying them. :)17:01
ColonelPanic001"Goals" by "Dark Clan" was awesome.17:01
ColonelPanic001(I'm... a little behind)17:01
brouschinstrumentalcasts ftw17:02
snap-lbrousch: I have another one cooking17:02
ColonelPanic001snap-l already has a surplus of karma from me for introducing me to Cloudkicker.17:02
ColonelPanic001some of the best instrumental rock/metal evar17:02
snap-lthey take longer tha CLub Metal episodes to create because while there's a lot of instrumental metal, there's not a lot of really GOOD stuff. :)17:03
ColonelPanic001yeah, I can imagine17:03
snap-lColonelPanic001: Yeah, Ben is incredible.17:03
ColonelPanic001I'm amazed you get as much together in CC licensed metal as you do, frankly17:03
snap-lHe's making waves in the regular community as well17:03
ColonelPanic001I've browsed through Jamendo before, etc. It's slim pickings, imho17:04
ColonelPanic001yeah? Good. He deserves it.17:04
snap-lColonelPanic001: Thank you.17:04
ColonelPanic001need to get a CK shirt or somthing.17:04
ColonelPanic001just to toss some in the tip jar, so to speak17:04
snap-lYeah, I have two, plus the last two albums on disc.17:06
snap-lWell, Beacons and Let yourself...17:06
greg-gyeah, jcastro wore his fivefingers around town, I just ran in mine17:14
greg-gbrousch: ^17:14
rick_h_greg-g: http://www.google.com/maps?saddr=SFO+Long+Term+Parking,+South+San+Francisco,+CA&daddr=5101+Great+America+Parkway,+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054+(Hyatt+Regency+Santa+Clara)&hl=en&ll=37.495018,-122.172089&spn=0.321969,0.615921&sll=37.418027,-121.966953&sspn=0.080575,0.15398&geocode=FfJKPgId0VC0-CH31yU1UIDyPA%3BFZDBOgId2Me6-CFysWFW4j0UQSkFdMgQzMmPgDGRHMf011ynkQ&oq=SFO&dirflg=r&ttype=now&noexp=0&noal=0&sort=def&mra=ltm&t=m&z=11&17:16
rick_h_crap, that's the short url google?!17:16
greg-grick_h_: yuck17:42
greg-g but yeah, getting around down there (South Bay area) is a pain without a car17:42
snap-lI really need to give Ars Technica money17:42
greg-gI like how google has indicated where that last bus goes, doesn't even follow the roads :)17:43
snap-lthey are the only new source in my RSS reader17:43
snap-lJust read the Dwolla chargeback article they had. FInally made some sense.17:43
snap-lWow, Programming Perl 4th edition is out17:44
rick_h_greg-g: is there any transit app for the area there I should check for better flow/scheduling?17:54
greg-gCaldroid for the caltrain, not sure about Santa Clara :)18:05
rick_h_ok18:07
brouschrick_h_: you're missing the web summit?!18:27
brouschtrying kubuntu 12.04 on the nook color. i am a glutton for punishment18:46
snap-lbrousch: Yes, yes you are.18:47
snap-lMaverick reaches EOL next month18:48
snap-lTuesday, April 10, 2012.18:49
snap-l(That's 10.10, for the code-name unconscious)18:49
brouschyou are correct sir18:50
_stink_good thing my mom bought a windows laptop to replace the maverick machine i gave her. :P18:56
snap-l_stink_: Ugh18:57
snap-lOh shit.18:57
_stink_it did come with a written agreement that i can no longer support her.18:57
snap-lI'm not sure if my Dad is still on Maverick18:58
snap-lI haven't unleashed Unity on them yet.18:58
snap-lHere's hoping he's still on 10.0418:58
brouschmy dad has an older machine. unity did not go well18:58
brouschnext time i'm over there it will be getting kde18:58
greg-gI'm confused by all of mhall's "contributing to Unity for non-developers"19:00
greg-gthey ALL involve some sort of action which is normally associated with development, eg: mhall119.com/?p=89419:00
brouschgreg-g: well step 1 is become a developer!19:02
brouschug. hitting a wall. boy woke me up at 5:15 this morning19:08
greg-gbrousch: I hear ya :)19:17
brouschHe was making weird noises so i went in. he told me "i was just thinking about star wars. do you think it has too many characters?"19:19
greg-gawesome19:20
Blazeixso young, and already making snide remarks about jarjar.19:20
brouschhe has not been exposed to 1-3 yet. i do not abuse my child19:21
snap-lToo many characters?19:22
snap-lOther than the fact that every alien that had a second of screen time now has a canonical back-story, I have no idea what he means.19:23
greg-gdoes god, I mean george lucas, sign off on all of those back stories? implying that he read them all?19:24
brouschi assume he has some say in the books19:24
snap-lgreg-g: I'm not entirely sure19:31
snap-lI think some of that canon just sprung up, and nobody challenged it19:32
snap-lI found one book that was written soon after Episode 4 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind%27s_Eye19:34
brouschthere are a gazollion books. i think my wife owns them all19:35
brouschthe boba fett backstory is good19:36
snap-lYeah, but this one was pretty non-canonical19:36
snap-lI really liked Tales of the Bounty Hunters19:37
brouschand there's one where the droids were about to take over the galaxy19:38
snap-lHaven't read too many of the rest, since they just seemed off to me.19:38
snap-lToo much subterfuge and other assorted nonsense.19:39
snap-lReading the Wikipedia summaries for some of them just seemed like they were inventing shit just to say they could.19:39
snap-lI don't know how to explain myself very well on this. ;)19:39
snap-lThe Jedi Academy felt like the end of The Who's Tommy to me19:41
snap-lrick_h_: DId the keyboard show up?19:56
brouschsnap-l: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Droid_Revolution19:58
snap-lbrousch: Will check that out21:08
snap-lgreg-g: I can tell you exactly what the Justice Department lawsuit for eBook price collusion means21:30
snap-lgreg-g: Authors still won't see shit in royalties. ;)21:30
mydogsnameisrudyhave a web site that requires me to run windoes and IE  ... grrr is virtualbox my best option?21:35
snap-lmydogsnameisrudy: Yes21:36
mydogsnameisrudybah give me something better21:36
mydogsnameisrudy;)21:36
snap-lYou could try running it in Wine21:36
mydogsnameisrudyhmmmm21:36
snap-lbut if you value your time and your blood pressure, Virtualbox is your best be.21:37
snap-lbet21:37
mydogsnameisrudynot sure what they realy want .21:37
mydogsnameisrudyok21:37
mydogsnameisrudylol thats it21:37
mydogsnameisrudythx21:37
snap-lnp21:37
greg-gmydogsnameisrudy: not using that website is the obvious best answer, and best for your health, and morality21:37
snap-lgreg-g: Let's not bring morality into this, shall we? :)21:38
snap-lotherwise we'll be talking about how ethical it is to play a DVD, and I'm not up for that21:38
mydogsnameisrudyits not an option must use the site21:38
greg-gsnap-l: fine fine :) another day ;)21:39
greg-gmydogsnameisrudy: then yes, what snap-l said21:39
mydogsnameisrudyyep thx again21:39
brouschmydogsnameisrudy: but make sure you write them a nastygram21:42
MilyardoHave you tried changing your User Agent String?21:50
mydogsnameisrudyya gained some but still will not let me in22:00
snap-lYeah, the user agent trick is pretty much dead, as far as I can tell22:15
mydogsnameisrudywell that just sucks     reminded how much i hate windoes22:45
snap-lmydogsnameisrudy: Every day, mate.23:27
snap-lgreg-g: Health Insurance is best when you don't use it.23:29
snap-lgreg-g: Also, watch HSAs, as some will charge you a fee to keep your money if you don't contribute to them23:29
snap-lI have one that will eventually empty out because of admin fees23:30
snap-lI should just go on a Claritin pill party to finish it up23:30
snap-lGET ME MY ALLERGY METH23:30
brouschd00d. i think kubuntu 12.04 is actually booting23:32
snap-lIT'S A MIRACLE!23:32
snap-lWait, you mean on the Nook, right?23:32
brouschyeah23:32
snap-lbecause that's pathetic otherwise.23:32
brousch:P23:32
brouschhm, maybe spoke too soon. the splash screen came up, not it's white23:34
brouschnow23:34

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