| inetpro | good mornings | 06:12 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning | 06:23 |
| magespawn | morning all | 06:24 |
| superfly | hiya magespawn | 06:27 |
| magespawn | what is happening today? | 06:29 |
| superfly | lots of stuff... | 06:34 |
| superfly | :-P | 06:34 |
| magespawn | ahhj that is always good, stops one from being bored | 06:41 |
| magespawn | learning how to use a server today through | 06:41 |
| magespawn | ssh | 06:41 |
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| magespawn | hi back again | 06:57 |
| magespawn | better | 07:01 |
| meesterarend | hey | 07:03 |
| superfly | hi meesterarend, wb magespawn | 07:03 |
| meesterarend | rather quiet here :) | 07:03 |
| magespawn | got the ssh installed now just need to set up another user on the host for my laptop | 07:04 |
| superfly | not much goes on early in the day... the evenings are usually busier | 07:04 |
| meesterarend | everyone working? | 07:04 |
| superfly | magespawn: have you set up SSH keypairs? | 07:04 |
| magespawn | not yet no | 07:04 |
| meesterarend | i know superfly | 07:04 |
| magespawn | still reading on the net | 07:05 |
| superfly | magespawn: ssh-keygen -t dsa | 07:06 |
| superfly | then ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@remote-host | 07:07 |
| superfly | if you're just using it on internal domains, you can skip the passphrase (make it empty) and then you have a password-less login to your server | 07:07 |
| magespawn | made a mistake just did ssh 192.168.1.xxx and not ssh username@192.168.1.xxx | 07:08 |
| magespawn | the first one uses the userna,e that I am logged into the laptop with | 07:08 |
| magespawn | username | 07:09 |
| magespawn | do i do the key gen from the client | 07:09 |
| superfly | yes | 07:09 |
| magespawn | i want to have a passphrase then i can ty it from outside my network using dyndns | 07:10 |
| superfly | magespawn: don't forget http://xkcd.com/936/ | 07:11 |
| superfly | phew, I was about to give him a mouthful | 07:12 |
| magespawn | yup have read that one before | 07:14 |
| magespawn | superfly: apparently you can do : ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 4096 to increase the amount of bits | 07:34 |
| superfly | indeed | 07:34 |
| magespawn | what is the differnce between dsa and rsa in the above command? | 07:35 |
| magespawn | ubuntu wiki page has it as rsa. | 07:36 |
| superfly | they are two different of algorithms | 07:36 |
| magespawn | i see for the encryption | 07:36 |
| superfly | rsa is the more closed of the two | 07:36 |
| magespawn | ahh | 07:36 |
| superfly | there used to be the threat of litigation, but the people who own RSA recently said that they won't sue anyone, or something like that | 07:36 |
| superfly | DSA is the "open source" RSA | 07:37 |
| magespawn | interestingly DSA is patented but that patent has been made availble worldwide royalty free | 07:38 |
| superfly | yeah, that's the one | 07:39 |
| magespawn | got this back : DSA keys must be 1024 bits | 07:42 |
| magespawn | according to the ssh-keygen manpage DSA can only be 1024 | 07:53 |
| magespawn | superfly have done the keygen using rsa at 4096, now to setup dyndns | 08:04 |
| Kilos | sjoe, amper vergeet om môre te sê | 09:12 |
| Kilos | morning all | 09:12 |
| Kilos | hi superfly nlsthzn | 09:12 |
| Kilos | aw maaz still dead | 09:12 |
| nlsthzn | Hello uncle Kilos | 09:12 |
| magespawn | howdy kilos | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | Seems you will have to make your own coffee | 09:13 |
| magespawn | K | 09:13 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 09:13 |
| * nlsthzn goes to make his own tea | 09:13 | |
| Kilos | lol | 09:13 |
| superfly | hi hi oom Kilos | 09:13 |
| magespawn | Kilos how is the lpi goinf? | 09:14 |
| magespawn | goinf | 09:14 |
| magespawn | going | 09:14 |
| Kilos | magespawn, struggling some but now got more to learn | 09:15 |
| Kilos | didnt you see the links yesterday | 09:15 |
| magespawn | no what links on the wiki? | 09:16 |
| Kilos | http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/intro-programs/linux-essentials | 09:16 |
| Kilos | i have at least got an LPI ID now but will see if i ever get that far as to write | 09:16 |
| Kilos | more manuals, books etc | 09:17 |
| * nlsthzn is getting far behind with LPI... need to get my backside in gear | 09:19 | |
| magespawn | mm me too. What is an LPI ID? | 09:19 |
| Kilos | the monkey is very busy at the moment so you have time | 09:19 |
| Kilos | LPI ID is the ID thats recognised world wide | 09:20 |
| Kilos | and you need one to be part of them | 09:20 |
| magespawn | so when you have your certs people can check against that | 09:20 |
| Kilos | you will get them with that id on i think | 09:21 |
| Kilos | its like the main registry | 09:21 |
| magespawn | Similar to CompTIA i should imagine for A+ and such | 09:22 |
| Kilos | took me a while to go through all of that and find their books | 09:22 |
| Kilos | you can also mail them with questions/suggestions | 09:22 |
| Kilos | but its a good site, uses min data. maybe some python guy was involved | 09:24 |
| Kilos | hows ahab land nlsthzn ? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | you dont get cyclones there hey? | 09:26 |
| nlsthzn | Nope, only sand storms... | 09:27 |
| nlsthzn | and at the moment it is slowly heating up :( | 09:27 |
| Kilos | lol that doesnt help plants grow | 09:27 |
| Kilos | according to the tv news natal had some floods | 09:28 |
| nlsthzn | that sucks | 09:28 |
| magespawn | nothing very serious | 09:36 |
| Kilos | mainly squatters near rivers | 09:37 |
| magespawn | rivers came up but in most places no property damage | 09:37 |
| magespawn | most of the rural areas okay as far as i know | 09:37 |
| magespawn | maybe Maaz needed a holiday | 09:38 |
| Kilos | bots arent allowed holidays | 09:38 |
| Kilos | and maaz is in germany or holland methinks | 09:39 |
| Kilos | or works through there | 09:39 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 09:39 |
| Kilos | magespawn, hows the cafe doing | 09:40 |
| magespawn | quite at the moment need more internet cafe customers | 09:40 |
| Kilos | advertise | 09:41 |
| Kilos | dont you have a local paper | 09:41 |
| magespawn | have flyers going out to the local po box today | 09:41 |
| magespawn | have an advert in this months and last months | 09:41 |
| inetpro | hello Kilos | 09:42 |
| Kilos | thats good. they gotta be eye catching though or most peeps dump them without reading them | 09:42 |
| magespawn | yup so we will see, also have an idea on how to get people to pre buy internet time with specials | 09:44 |
| * inetpro puts the kettle on for Kilos and washes some mugs | 09:44 | |
| Kilos | ha ha ha you my hero inetpro | 09:44 |
| Kilos | inetpro, coffee please | 09:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses | 09:46 |
| Kilos | hehe i havent had any yet so struggling a bit | 09:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the kettle is on already | 09:47 |
| inetpro | and the cups are ready | 09:47 |
| Kilos | beer mug full please with cremora and milk | 09:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: huh? | 09:47 |
| Kilos | and rusks on the side | 09:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Excuse me? | 09:48 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ytou're excused | 09:48 |
| Kilos | you're as well | 09:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: What? | 09:49 |
| Kilos | fingers too fat, not enough coffee | 09:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:49 |
| inetpro | Coffee's ready for Kilos | 09:50 |
| Kilos | inetpro, danke | 09:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Bitteschön mein Freund | 09:50 |
| Kilos | cute bot this | 09:50 |
| Kilos | magespawn, do you have a good fast connection? | 09:53 |
| Kilos | have they installed optic fibre cables there yet? | 09:53 |
| magespawn | no fibre but running a 1mbps adsl | 09:54 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:56 |
| magespawn | uncapped ftw | 09:57 |
| Kilos | sigh | 09:57 |
| Squirm | where I work, we have a 4mb uncapped line. the admin caps everyone | 09:58 |
| Squirm | cept me :D | 09:58 |
| Kilos | lol you lucky Squirm | 09:58 |
| magespawn | nice then | 09:58 |
| magespawn | are you the admin? | 09:59 |
| Squirm | na | 09:59 |
| Squirm | I'm a lowly assistant | 09:59 |
| Squirm | :P | 09:59 |
| Squirm | maybe not lowly | 09:59 |
| Squirm | I have access to uncap myself though, but if I did without the admin knowing, he might not like me | 10:00 |
| Kilos | everyone has to start somewhere | 10:00 |
| Squirm | so I asked | 10:00 |
| Kilos | just remember knowlege is power | 10:00 |
| magespawn | best way to do it | 10:00 |
| Squirm | and now I have uncapped | 10:00 |
| Squirm | ^^ | 10:00 |
| Squirm | bbiab, putting more memory in | 10:01 |
| magespawn | had a bit of a shock when i checked my usage for the lst 12 months | 10:01 |
| Kilos | Squirm, mainly windows stuff you gotta do? | 10:01 |
| Squirm | Kilos: unfortunately so | 10:01 |
| Squirm | but we're installing mint on older machines | 10:01 |
| Kilos | eish, sympathies | 10:01 |
| Squirm | looking into getting mint to authenticate with Active Directory, so we can roll those out on our domain | 10:02 |
| Kilos | thats a good start | 10:02 |
| Squirm | that's why my boss gave me 8Gb of RAM, so I could run a few VM's | 10:02 |
| Kilos | wow thats nice | 10:02 |
| Squirm | my office pc, 2.6GHz Core i5, 8Gb of RAM, 500Gb hdd | 10:03 |
| Kilos | lovely | 10:03 |
| Squirm | well, 4Gb now, need to put in the 2*4Gb now | 10:03 |
| Squirm | bbiab | 10:03 |
| magespawn | kilos my usage peaked last month at 25GB, insane | 10:05 |
| Kilos | wow did you download lotsa iso's or is it peeps with movies etc? | 10:05 |
| magespawn | not too sure did take two iso last month CentOS and Windows Developer | 10:06 |
| Kilos | thats under 2g | 10:07 |
| magespawn | i also do windows updates for people so that could use a lot | 10:08 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:08 |
| magespawn | the cent0s was the dvd so 2.6g i think | 10:09 |
| Kilos | oh not cds? | 10:09 |
| Squirm | mwhahaha | 10:09 |
| magespawn | i like to get both if i can but had a problem getting the cd iso | 10:10 |
| Kilos | wassup Squirm | 10:11 |
| magespawn | and that | 10:13 |
| Kilos | he sounds happy about something | 10:13 |
| magespawn | maybe the extra speed on the pc | 10:14 |
| Kilos | yeah | 10:14 |
| Squirm | 8Gb ram | 10:14 |
| Squirm | ^^ | 10:14 |
| Kilos | ram is so important | 10:14 |
| Squirm | inded | 10:30 |
| Kilos | eish tried to reinstall apparmor and synaptic said it isnt authenticated then froze the pc | 10:30 |
| Kilos | how can something in the repos not be authenticated | 10:40 |
| Kilos | is it my synaptic gone mad | 10:40 |
| magespawn | maybe just update first | 10:42 |
| magespawn | sudo apt-get update | 10:42 |
| Kilos | oh forgot that | 10:42 |
| Kilos | cant do that got 200m of updates pending | 10:42 |
| magespawn | there is a way to check the updates just for tha package, hold on | 10:43 |
| Kilos | i did apt-get-update yesterday | 10:43 |
| Kilos | its the upgrade i cant do | 10:43 |
| Kilos | maybe the prob is that synaptic sees the update but without upgrading it cant continue | 10:44 |
| magespawn | if you want to just do apparmor try apt-get install apparmor | 10:45 |
| Kilos | ok will try ty | 10:46 |
| Kilos | no man | 10:46 |
| magespawn | that should update to the latest | 10:46 |
| Kilos | apt-get will say its already installed | 10:46 |
| Kilos | aptitude can do a reinstall and does the upgrading | 10:46 |
| Kilos | dont you use aptitude magespawn | 10:47 |
| Kilos | i think apt-get needs --reinstall at the end | 10:48 |
| magespawn | just been getting used to using comman line on the server i just set up | 10:51 |
| magespawn | i get most of the info from the web | 10:51 |
| Kilos | oh dont they have aptitude | 10:51 |
| Kilos | first thing i do onna new install is install aptitude | 10:52 |
| magespawn | not sure all the website that i saw were using apt-get | 10:52 |
| Kilos | yeah it seems inetpro and superfly know better | 10:53 |
| Kilos | i like aptitude | 10:53 |
| magespawn | they have more experience | 10:53 |
| inetpro | huh? | 10:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, aptitude vs apt-get | 10:54 |
| nlsthzn | apt-get has super cow powers | 10:54 |
| * inetpro scrolls up a few meters to read more | 10:54 | |
| Kilos | lol | 10:54 |
| Kilos | aptitude worked with apparmor magespawn | 10:55 |
| Kilos | its my synaptic thats doff | 10:55 |
| * inetpro prefers the all in one functionalities in aptitude | 10:57 | |
| Kilos | aptitude rocks | 10:58 |
| magespawn | from what i have just read on the net aptitude is a more complete one stop manager | 10:58 |
| inetpro | just sad that it's not installed by default | 10:58 |
| inetpro | it's always the first thing I install | 10:58 |
| Kilos | only one later releases you have to manually install it | 10:58 |
| Kilos | hmm i type to slow | 10:59 |
| magespawn | going to get lunch see you in a bit | 11:02 |
| Kilos | i go make chilli bites bbl | 11:02 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 11:03 |
| Kilos | inetpro, storm op pad | 12:31 |
| Kilos | baie donner min reen | 12:33 |
| magespawn | back from lunch | 12:41 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 12:41 |
| magespawn | ty | 12:42 |
| magespawn | all sunshine here | 12:42 |
| Kilos | magespawn, look at debdelta might even work for faster upgrades | 12:43 |
| Kilos | saves data for mobile connection users | 12:43 |
| Kilos | wish i knew about it 2 years ago | 12:44 |
| magespawn | will have a look although i generally use my adsl | 12:45 |
| Kilos | yes but i was thinking seeing as it does do the full package download everytime it might be faster as well | 12:46 |
| Kilos | i mean doesnt download full packages | 12:53 |
| magespawn | have just read the web page only get the changes | 12:53 |
| Kilos | yeah thats great hey | 12:53 |
| Kilos | be back tnite. you all be good | 12:58 |
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| magespawn | later the wife lift is here to take me away | 14:56 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 17:49 |
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