[06:12] good mornings [06:23] morning [06:24] morning all [06:27] hiya magespawn [06:29] what is happening today? [06:34] lots of stuff... [06:34] :-P [06:41] ahhj that is always good, stops one from being bored [06:41] learning how to use a server today through [06:41] ssh === sdehaan_ is now known as sdehaan [06:57] hi back again [07:01] better [07:03] hey [07:03] hi meesterarend, wb magespawn [07:03] rather quiet here :) [07:04] got the ssh installed now just need to set up another user on the host for my laptop [07:04] not much goes on early in the day... the evenings are usually busier [07:04] everyone working? [07:04] magespawn: have you set up SSH keypairs? [07:04] not yet no [07:04] i know superfly [07:05] still reading on the net [07:06] magespawn: ssh-keygen -t dsa [07:07] then ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@remote-host [07:07] if you're just using it on internal domains, you can skip the passphrase (make it empty) and then you have a password-less login to your server [07:08] made a mistake just did ssh 192.168.1.xxx and not ssh username@192.168.1.xxx [07:08] the first one uses the userna,e that I am logged into the laptop with [07:09] username [07:09] do i do the key gen from the client [07:09] yes [07:10] i want to have a passphrase then i can ty it from outside my network using dyndns [07:11] magespawn: don't forget http://xkcd.com/936/ [07:12] phew, I was about to give him a mouthful [07:14] yup have read that one before [07:34] superfly: apparently you can do : ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 4096 to increase the amount of bits [07:34] indeed [07:35] what is the differnce between dsa and rsa in the above command? [07:36] ubuntu wiki page has it as rsa. [07:36] they are two different of algorithms [07:36] i see for the encryption [07:36] rsa is the more closed of the two [07:36] ahh [07:36] there used to be the threat of litigation, but the people who own RSA recently said that they won't sue anyone, or something like that [07:37] DSA is the "open source" RSA [07:38] interestingly DSA is patented but that patent has been made availble worldwide royalty free [07:39] yeah, that's the one [07:42] got this back : DSA keys must be 1024 bits [07:53] according to the ssh-keygen manpage DSA can only be 1024 [08:04] superfly have done the keygen using rsa at 4096, now to setup dyndns [09:12] sjoe, amper vergeet om môre te sê [09:12] morning all [09:12] hi superfly nlsthzn [09:12] aw maaz still dead [09:12] Hello uncle Kilos [09:13] howdy kilos [09:13] Seems you will have to make your own coffee [09:13] K [09:13] hi magespawn [09:13] * nlsthzn goes to make his own tea [09:13] lol [09:13] hi hi oom Kilos [09:14] Kilos how is the lpi goinf? [09:14] goinf [09:14] going [09:15] magespawn, struggling some but now got more to learn [09:15] didnt you see the links yesterday [09:16] no what links on the wiki? [09:16] http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/intro-programs/linux-essentials [09:16] i have at least got an LPI ID now but will see if i ever get that far as to write [09:17] more manuals, books etc [09:19] * nlsthzn is getting far behind with LPI... need to get my backside in gear [09:19] mm me too. What is an LPI ID? [09:19] the monkey is very busy at the moment so you have time [09:20] LPI ID is the ID thats recognised world wide [09:20] and you need one to be part of them [09:20] so when you have your certs people can check against that [09:21] you will get them with that id on i think [09:21] its like the main registry [09:22] Similar to CompTIA i should imagine for A+ and such [09:22] took me a while to go through all of that and find their books [09:22] you can also mail them with questions/suggestions [09:24] but its a good site, uses min data. maybe some python guy was involved [09:26] hows ahab land nlsthzn ? [09:26] you dont get cyclones there hey? [09:27] Nope, only sand storms... [09:27] and at the moment it is slowly heating up :( [09:27] lol that doesnt help plants grow [09:28] according to the tv news natal had some floods [09:28] that sucks [09:36] nothing very serious [09:37] mainly squatters near rivers [09:37] rivers came up but in most places no property damage [09:37] most of the rural areas okay as far as i know [09:38] maybe Maaz needed a holiday [09:38] bots arent allowed holidays [09:39] and maaz is in germany or holland methinks [09:39] or works through there [09:39] lo inetpro [09:40] magespawn, hows the cafe doing [09:40] quite at the moment need more internet cafe customers [09:41] advertise [09:41] dont you have a local paper [09:41] have flyers going out to the local po box today [09:41] have an advert in this months and last months [09:42] hello Kilos [09:42] thats good. they gotta be eye catching though or most peeps dump them without reading them [09:44] yup so we will see, also have an idea on how to get people to pre buy internet time with specials [09:44] * inetpro puts the kettle on for Kilos and washes some mugs [09:44] ha ha ha you my hero inetpro [09:45] inetpro, coffee please [09:46] Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses [09:46] hehe i havent had any yet so struggling a bit [09:47] Kilos: the kettle is on already [09:47] and the cups are ready [09:47] beer mug full please with cremora and milk [09:47] Kilos: huh? [09:47] and rusks on the side [09:48] Kilos: Excuse me? [09:48] inetpro, ytou're excused [09:48] you're as well [09:49] Kilos: What? [09:49] fingers too fat, not enough coffee [09:49] hehe [09:50] Coffee's ready for Kilos [09:50] inetpro, danke [09:50] Kilos: Bitteschön mein Freund [09:50] cute bot this [09:53] magespawn, do you have a good fast connection? [09:53] have they installed optic fibre cables there yet? [09:54] no fibre but running a 1mbps adsl [09:56] ah [09:57] uncapped ftw [09:57] sigh [09:58] where I work, we have a 4mb uncapped line. the admin caps everyone [09:58] cept me :D [09:58] lol you lucky Squirm [09:58] nice then [09:59] are you the admin? [09:59] na [09:59] I'm a lowly assistant [09:59] :P [09:59] maybe not lowly [10:00] I have access to uncap myself though, but if I did without the admin knowing, he might not like me [10:00] everyone has to start somewhere [10:00] so I asked [10:00] just remember knowlege is power [10:00] best way to do it [10:00] and now I have uncapped [10:00] ^^ [10:01] bbiab, putting more memory in [10:01] had a bit of a shock when i checked my usage for the lst 12 months [10:01] Squirm, mainly windows stuff you gotta do? [10:01] Kilos: unfortunately so [10:01] but we're installing mint on older machines [10:01] eish, sympathies [10:02] looking into getting mint to authenticate with Active Directory, so we can roll those out on our domain [10:02] thats a good start [10:02] that's why my boss gave me 8Gb of RAM, so I could run a few VM's [10:02] wow thats nice [10:03] my office pc, 2.6GHz Core i5, 8Gb of RAM, 500Gb hdd [10:03] lovely [10:03] well, 4Gb now, need to put in the 2*4Gb now [10:03] bbiab [10:05] kilos my usage peaked last month at 25GB, insane [10:05] wow did you download lotsa iso's or is it peeps with movies etc? [10:06] not too sure did take two iso last month CentOS and Windows Developer [10:07] thats under 2g [10:08] i also do windows updates for people so that could use a lot [10:08] ah [10:09] the cent0s was the dvd so 2.6g i think [10:09] oh not cds? [10:09] mwhahaha [10:10] i like to get both if i can but had a problem getting the cd iso [10:11] wassup Squirm [10:13] and that [10:13] he sounds happy about something [10:14] maybe the extra speed on the pc [10:14] yeah [10:14] 8Gb ram [10:14] ^^ [10:14] ram is so important [10:30] inded [10:30] eish tried to reinstall apparmor and synaptic said it isnt authenticated then froze the pc [10:40] how can something in the repos not be authenticated [10:40] is it my synaptic gone mad [10:42] maybe just update first [10:42] sudo apt-get update [10:42] oh forgot that [10:42] cant do that got 200m of updates pending [10:43] there is a way to check the updates just for tha package, hold on [10:43] i did apt-get-update yesterday [10:43] its the upgrade i cant do [10:44] maybe the prob is that synaptic sees the update but without upgrading it cant continue [10:45] if you want to just do apparmor try apt-get install apparmor [10:46] ok will try ty [10:46] no man [10:46] that should update to the latest [10:46] apt-get will say its already installed [10:46] aptitude can do a reinstall and does the upgrading [10:47] dont you use aptitude magespawn [10:48] i think apt-get needs --reinstall at the end [10:51] just been getting used to using comman line on the server i just set up [10:51] i get most of the info from the web [10:51] oh dont they have aptitude [10:52] first thing i do onna new install is install aptitude [10:52] not sure all the website that i saw were using apt-get [10:53] yeah it seems inetpro and superfly know better [10:53] i like aptitude [10:53] they have more experience [10:53] huh? [10:54] inetpro, aptitude vs apt-get [10:54] apt-get has super cow powers [10:54] * inetpro scrolls up a few meters to read more [10:54] lol [10:55] aptitude worked with apparmor magespawn [10:55] its my synaptic thats doff [10:57] * inetpro prefers the all in one functionalities in aptitude [10:58] aptitude rocks [10:58] from what i have just read on the net aptitude is a more complete one stop manager [10:58] just sad that it's not installed by default [10:58] it's always the first thing I install [10:58] only one later releases you have to manually install it [10:59] hmm i type to slow [11:02] going to get lunch see you in a bit [11:02] i go make chilli bites bbl [11:03] ty inetpro [12:31] inetpro, storm op pad [12:33] baie donner min reen [12:41] back from lunch [12:41] wb magespawn [12:42] ty [12:42] all sunshine here [12:43] magespawn, look at debdelta might even work for faster upgrades [12:43] saves data for mobile connection users [12:44] wish i knew about it 2 years ago [12:45] will have a look although i generally use my adsl [12:46] yes but i was thinking seeing as it does do the full package download everytime it might be faster as well [12:53] i mean doesnt download full packages [12:53] have just read the web page only get the changes [12:53] yeah thats great hey [12:58] be back tnite. you all be good === nlsthzn is now known as not_found === not_found is now known as nlsthzn [14:56] later the wife lift is here to take me away [17:49] o/