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JontheEchidna[18:46:51] <kbroulik> btw kudos to the kubuntu packaging team … it's great that the releases get backported so quickly nowadays <300:04
JontheEchidna^from #kubuntu00:04
bulldog98apachelogger: printermanager?00:25
apacheloggerbulldog98: what about it?00:29
bulldog98apachelogger: was it the stuff you was announcing?00:34
apacheloggereh?00:34
apacheloggerwhat did I announce?00:34
apacheloggerand where and when?00:34
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: your boot video made me find a boog with the codec installer on 64-bit systems, thx00:42
JontheEchidnawhat happened was a multiarch package was being reported as providing the codec, causing the real native plugin to not be found :(00:46
bulldog98apachelogger: could you have a look at my mockup at git clone kde:scratch/kolberg/ubiquity-mockup01:32
apacheloggertomrrow01:43
bulldog98apachelogger: ping me with feedback than :)01:49
* bulldog98 goes to bed -> good night to all01:49
Riddellapachelogger: lovely booting07:44
debfxScottK: could you please push the quassel packaging branch09:26
Riddellnobody packaged kde-gtk-config yet?09:44
Riddelldebfx: what do you need done?09:44
Riddellupload it?09:44
Sputhmpf, kmail has become really unstable on kubuntu after the recent KDE upgrade, anyone else experiencing that problem?09:51
Sputthe backtraces point to soprano...09:51
debfxI need an up to date branch09:51
Riddelldebfx: oh synced with the archive09:53
Riddelllet me look09:53
debfxwell there is not much you can do about that09:54
Riddelldebfx: done09:55
Riddelldebfx: it seems to be under ~ubuntu-dev which seems to host a few projects but not many, it would be nicer to just use the launchpad packaging branches if you can live with the mix of upstream and packaging in a bzr branch09:56
Riddelldebfx: but don't block if you have issues like that, just do the sync to bzr archive on your local checkout and have it merged in after you add your changes09:57
debfxI try to avoid the UDD branches when possible09:58
Riddelldebfx: does anyone maintain debfx who isn't kubuntu?09:59
debfxRiddell: it's not urgent so didn't want to diverge the branch in case he just forgot to push it10:00
debfxI am being maintained by kubuntu? :O10:01
Tm_Tyes, yes you are, didn't you get the memo?10:01
Riddellumm10:02
Riddelldebfx: does anyone maintain quassel who isn't kubuntu?10:02
debfxno10:03
Riddelldebfx: so maybe we should just move to ~kubuntu-packaging ?10:05
debfxRiddell: what's wrong with the current branch? I see no reason to change it10:07
Riddelldebfx: you can't push to it?10:07
RiddellSput: no sorry I haven't tested that, I'll take a look in a bit10:07
debfxI can push it10:07
Riddelldebfx: oh so why did you need me to sync?10:08
Riddellbut kontact was the main complaint I heard at cebit and that's no surprise10:08
Riddelldebfx: or were you asking for something else entirely?10:10
debfxI didn't, I asked ScottK to push the branch in case he forgot to10:10
debfx(since he uploaded the last version)10:11
debfxScottK: do you care about quassel being backportable to pre-precise releases?10:12
Riddellagateau: where is indicateqt support in kopete?  I can't find the code10:13
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ScottKdebfx: Not particularly.  At least I won't after precise is released.12:33
ScottKdebfx: Why?12:33
ScottKdebfx: I don't have a local copy of the branch.  If I forgot it, I guess I forgot it completely.12:35
ScottKRiddell: One's work can be overwritten automatically in the UDD branches which seems like a very good reason to me to stay away from them (I have others, but I think that's sufficient).12:35
ScottKlibdbusmenu-qt | 0.9.0-2ubuntu1 |       precise | source13:12
ScottKlibdbusmenu-qt | 0.9.0-1 | sid     | source13:13
ScottKHow is this possible (nothing in experimental)13:13
debfxScottK: "Merge from Debian git"13:17
RiddellScottK: it'll be moved to the side not overwritten but sure there's plenty problems with them13:17
BluesKajHiyas all13:19
shadeslayerScottK: yes, I've updated the symbols and the package is in my PPA13:37
shadeslayersec13:37
shadeslayerScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/qtwebkit-source_2.2.1-1ubuntu3%7Eppa1.dsc13:38
ScottKshadeslayer: OK.  How about I test build that on the arm box and you look at bug 947785 for digikam and then I'll test that one again after?13:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 947785 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Digikam crashes when selecting a camera to import images from" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94778513:38
shadeslayeras for digikam, I've been trying to get qemubuilder to work, but it just refuses to work13:38
shadeslayerok13:39
shadeslayer( I left qemubuilder to make the image on my server for an entire day, nothing happened )13:39
ScottKIt looks like some kind of a linking error somewhere.13:40
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shadeslayer"The problem happens if opencv is built with libdc1394 support"13:42
ScottKNote that there's more than one libusb version listed as a dependency.13:43
shadeslayeryeah13:43
ScottKDunno if that's related or not.13:43
ScottKIt doesn't seem good.13:43
shadeslayerI'm going through the KDE Bug report13:43
ScottKKeep in mind the current issue is "similar" to that one, not necessarily the same.13:43
Riddellwhat shall I put in the releaes team meeting report this week?13:44
ScottK4.8.1 uploaded13:44
ScottKMore progress on Kubuntu Active wonderfullness13:45
Riddelloh aye, anyone tested that?13:45
ScottKWork in progress on qtwebkit-source FTBFS on arm*.13:45
ScottKrbelem did.13:45
Riddellwhat did he find?13:46
shadeslayerwell, some kdegames might not have sound in this release, but will probably get sound once we get openal into Main13:46
Riddellshadeslayer: is there an openal MIR?13:46
shadeslayerShould be soonish, mterry approved everything13:46
shadeslayerRiddell: yes13:46
Riddelloh nice13:46
ScottKThen Riddell can promote it and solve that.13:46
Riddellyeah what's the bug number?13:46
shadeslayerRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/586324 < Best to talk to mterry once before promotion :013:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,Fix committed]13:47
shadeslayers/0/)13:47
Riddellshadeslayer: what to talk to mterry about?  he's approved it from reading the report13:48
ScottKshadeslayer: chroot updated and qtwebkit-source build kicked off.13:48
Riddellshadeslayer: openal-soft promoted to main13:50
Riddellwill you upload a fixed kdegames?13:50
shadeslayerwhee13:50
shadeslayerhmm, sure, give me a sec13:50
shadeslayerRiddell: pushed to bzr branch13:58
Riddellshadeslayer: need me to upload?14:00
shadeslayeryep14:00
Riddellshadeslayer: does it install any new files?14:03
shadeslayeruh ...14:03
Riddellshadeslayer: also missing a bug number14:03
shadeslayerit shouldn't really14:03
shadeslayerbug number?14:04
Riddell13:47 < shadeslayer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/58632414:04
shadeslayerah14:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,Fix released]14:04
shadeslayernope14:04
shadeslayerbug 94174514:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 941745 in kdegames (Ubuntu) "kgoldrunner built without sound support" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94174514:04
Riddellshadeslayer: or that14:04
Riddellshadeslayer: when you say "it shouldn't really" do you mean "no I've checked" or do you mean "not sure, I'm guessing not"14:05
shadeslayerlatter14:05
shadeslayerI'll test build14:05
Riddellneed an ec2?14:05
shadeslayernah, will do it on yofel's thinkpad :)14:06
* shadeslayer is a bit slow today, everything hurts14:06
shadeslayerhmm14:08
rbelemRiddell, it boots straight to lightdm14:08
shadeslayerwe have python-kde4 in main, and yet we don't build kdegames with that14:08
rbelemRiddell, but there isnt user to login14:08
rbelem:-(14:08
ScottKshadeslayer: Why not?  14:09
shadeslayerScottK: no idea, looking into it14:09
Riddellok so we need need to work out the one line bash script to change lightdm to do autologin14:10
Riddellrbelem: can you look what that is?14:10
ScottKRiddell: Why not just use nodm if you always want autologin?14:10
Riddellsed s,AutoLogin=False,AutoLogin=True, /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc is something like what we have currently14:10
RiddellScottK: because I know less about nodm then I do about lightdm14:10
ScottKIt seemed to work OK for -mobile.14:11
rbelemRiddell, yup :-)14:11
rbelemScottK, i think we had some throuble to turn off14:12
ScottKOK.  14:12
rbelemwhen using nodm14:12
shadeslayerargh14:18
shadeslayerpython-support and python-qt-dev are in universe14:19
shadeslayerthat's why14:19
shadeslayerwhich is weird14:19
shadeslayersince python-qt4 is in main14:19
ScottKshadeslayer: If something uses python-support, let's migrate it to dh_python2.14:19
shadeslayerScottK: oh, then either python-qt4 or python-kde uses python-support14:20
ScottKshadeslayer: python-qt-dev is a python-qt3 package.14:20
shadeslayerbecause kdegames uses dh_python214:20
shadeslayeroh14:20
ScottKshadeslayer: No.  Neither do.14:20
ScottKpython-qt4-dev is probably what you were thinking of.14:21
Riddellrbelem: you can login to the image with user "kubuntu-active", it currently has plasma-desktop on the image14:23
RiddellScottK: someone is looking at qtwebkit on arm?14:25
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  I'm test building shadeslayer's fix right now.14:26
RiddellScottK: what's his fix?14:26
ScottKUpdated symbols.14:26
Riddellis shadeslayer a secret elite arm hacker?14:26
shadeslayernope, just new symbols  ...14:26
Riddellshadeslayer: so it all compiles now except the symbols file is wrong?14:27
shadeslayeralso, kdegames depends on python-twisted-core but CMake tells me it can't find it14:27
shadeslayerRiddell: thats what the build log told me14:27
Riddellgreat14:27
shadeslayerbtw, that's for qtwebkit14:27
Riddellyes14:28
Riddellyou need to learn to read cmake to get to the bottom of issues like "depends on python-twisted-core but CMake tells me it can't find it"14:28
ScottKIt's likely that we install it somewhere other than where it expects to find it.14:30
shadeslayerah, well, that warning is misleading14:32
shadeslayerit depends on it as in, Depends and not Build Depends14:32
ScottKRight.  That's another one.14:32
ScottKKDE conflates those two things sometimes.14:32
shadeslayer:(14:33
Riddellrbelem: kubuntu-active needs  plasma-active-default-settings and kubuntu-active-default-settings14:33
Riddelladding to seeds14:33
ScottKThis is because everyone builds KDE from source on the same machine they'll run it on so build time warnings about runtime issues are a great idea.14:33
Riddellkde-telepathy reply http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-telepathy/2012-March/005690.html14:51
ScottKRelease date seems pretty late.14:58
ScottKOther than that I think it's ~OK if we get the MI integration and the desktop file name change.14:58
shadeslayerRiddell: uh, everything looks good, except that I see that granatier is disabled in debian/control, nothing in the changelog about that15:01
Riddellshadeslayer: so no new files?15:02
shadeslayerRiddell: nope15:02
Riddellgroovy15:02
shadeslayerI'll look into digikam after dinner15:03
shadeslayerbbl15:03
Riddellrbelem: kubuntu-active-meta uploaded, remind me to spin new images in an hour or so15:03
Riddellshadeslayer: kdegames uploaded15:04
shadeslayer\o/15:16
rbelemRiddell, kubuntu-active user? no password?15:57
Riddellrbelem: right15:57
rbelemRiddell, we have to define plasma-active as the default session for lightdm15:58
Riddellrbelem: and auto login, just a config file change presumably15:58
rbelemRiddell, nice... i will do that in the next hours. i'm leaving for lunch now15:59
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debfxcould one of you core-devs have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/ubuntu/precise/language-selector/kubuntu/+merge/92967 ? otherwise it will never get merged16:19
ScottKUnless you apply for core-dev.16:35
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nixternalanyone on precise update to today's network-mangler release?17:48
nixternalI HATE NETWORK MANAGER!17:58
shadeslayerScottK: how goes QtWebkit18:09
ScottKMay have killed the box.  ssh is either very slow or not responding.18:15
shadeslayerouch18:15
shadeslayerpoor boxen18:15
ScottKI'll go plug in a keyboard/monitor and see what's up in a bit if it doesn't recover.18:15
bulldog98apachelogger: do you know how I can get qtcreator to show me all the qmlplugins of kde?18:20
bulldog98eg org.kde.qtextracomponents?18:20
shadeslayeruh, you can't right now I think18:22
shadeslayeryou need to manually write stuff last time I checked, but that was like 4-5 months ago18:22
bulldog98shadeslayer: hm18:24
shadeslayerbulldog98: maybe #plasma can help you out? 18:25
shadeslayerThey're bound to be proficient with that stuff18:25
Peace-hola18:36
ScottKshadeslayer: Still building.  ssh eventually recovered.18:45
shadeslayer\o/18:45
shadeslayerScottK: I don't suppose you know a sekrit way of making pbuilder work with qemu right?18:48
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sheytanapachelogger: pongi20:18
j2_Anyone is in charge of Kmix here?20:53
shadeslayerj2_: if it's a packaging issue, feel free to state the issue, if it's a bug in the application, please file a bug on bugs.kde.org20:58
shadeslayerNight guys20:59
j2_shadeslayer: Well I can't20:59
j2_shadeslayer: Good night20:59
j2_someone in #kubuntu had updated KDE 4.8 and Kmix randomly crashes, The bug report tool also crashes and when they submit the bug on bugs.kde.org that crashes so they are a little put off21:00
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j2_Just thought that whoever was the maintainer of kmix might know if there was a known bug21:01
sheytansomeone has a ppa with telepathy 0.3?21:14
sheytanfor 10.1121:14
sheytan11.121:15
sheytanwait21:15
sheytanwhat version do we have now?21:15
sheytan11.10 yeah :D21:15
j2_12.2621:17
sheytanapachelogger: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8784/plytests2.jpg21:21
ScottKshadeslayer: I don't know a thing about qemu.  Still building, BTW.21:25
bulldog98sheytan: looks nice21:25
ScottKj2_: The issue with Dr. Konqi is known.  They should report a bug manually on bugs.kde.org.21:26
sheytanbulldog98: thank you :)21:26
j2_ScottK: bugs.kde.org crashes when they do so21:26
ScottKj2_: Use a web browser and copy/paste the back trace.21:26
j2_ScottK: Hmm You mean pastebin it?21:28
j2_When they submit the bug bugzilla rturns them to a unknown error page21:29
ScottKEven via a web browser?21:29
j2_As I understand it 21:30
ScottKWorth bringing up with KDE folks then, but I don't know the best channel.21:31
ScottKI think there's a #kde-sysadmin or similar.21:31
j2_I do :)21:31
ScottKExcellent.21:31
j2_ScottK: Anything known about Kmix crashing? since if that stops then the DrKonqui thing is moot21:31
j2_for the time being21:32
ScottKFirst I heard of it.21:32
j2_Me too and it seems to happen 1/2 dozen times a day21:33
bulldog98sheytan: could you have a look at the git repro kde:scratch/kolberg/ubiquity-mockup ? thanks21:42
sheytanbulldog98: link via web please?21:43
bulldog98sheytan: http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fkolberg%2Fubiquity-mockup.git&a=tree&hb=66819b0a003e65efc0a97aa08d9e488dbdb8db8e21:44
sheytanbulldog98: can i run it somehow to see how it works together? Or is there a demo?21:46
bulldog98qmlviewer -I /usr/lib/kde4/imports Ubiquity-mockup.qml21:46
bulldog98If you have all the files in the current dir21:46
bulldog98sheytan: video with out the popups: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bulldog98/ubiquity/ubiquity-mockup.avi21:53
sheytanbulldog98: not bad. Will take a look at it tomorrow :)21:56
bulldog98sheytan: feedback is good21:56
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bulldog98good night22:51
j2_night22:56

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