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nigelbmhall119: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!00:27
cjohnstonnigelb: your early :-P00:29
mhall119what?00:30
* nigelb waves from future00:30
mhall119nigelb: I'm getting old fast enough, no need to help it along :P00:30
cjohnstonlol00:30
nigelbmhall119: Wait, isn't today (er, tomorrow) your birthday?00:30
mhall119nigelb: today for you, but tomorrow for me00:32
nigelbHA!00:32
nigelbHappy Birthday in advance then! :)00:32
mhall119thanks nigelb :)01:02
jonomhall119, around?02:05
jonoor cjohnston02:05
jonowhat is branch of the ubuntu django theme again?02:05
cjohnstonlp:ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-django-theme02:06
jonothanks cjohnston02:06
bkerensa=/ man sometimes I'm so busy I feel like I need a Ticket System02:07
jonothanks cjohnston02:07
cjohnstonnp02:07
cjohnstonnp02:07
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bkerensajono: are you around?02:26
jonobkerensa, I am, but I am a bit busy?02:27
jonowhy?02:27
bkerensajono: Was just wondering if you might be able to give a short shoutout on twitter to @puppetlabs in the next week or two for their awesome contributions to the local Ubuntu Community.. their CM had specifically mentioned they would treat especially well if that ever occurred (they already treat us nice)02:29
jonothey will treat us well if I tweet about them?02:29
bkerensajono: they will treat our loco even better :P I dont know what they might do for you :) they seem to like you a bit02:30
bkerensawe have our release party next month and they are hosting us for the 4th time now but I'm ehh trying to talk them into sponsoring us food in addition to beer and soda02:31
jonobkerensa, I will tweet about it closer to the time02:32
bkerensak02:32
jonocheers02:32
bkerensacheers indeed02:32
bkerensa :)02:32
akgranernigelb, you are missing becca and her sense of humor - she is spamming my facebook page03:04
nigelbakgraner: hahahaha03:07
akgranerdid you read the other ones - I think she spammed all of my  status' from January and Feb03:08
akgranernigelb, best on yet from her tonight  - " Only Jesus can help these wrinkles. But I'm pretty sure hes not working for the makeup department."03:09
nigelbI saw that and laughed :)03:10
mhall119akgraner: she cracks me up03:11
akgranermhall119, I know right...I'd laugh even more if I wasn't the subject of her humor03:11
mhall119akgraner: that does make it easier for me to lauch :)03:12
mhall119I'm glad my kids aren't on Facebook03:12
cjohnstonyety03:13
cjohnstonyet03:13
akgraneroh you just wait - one day they will be03:13
akgranermhall119, one thing that isn't lacking around my house is humor.03:15
akgranergranted it's at my expense but still03:16
cjohnstoneven Pete got in on it yesterday03:16
akgranerI know - sigh03:17
cjohnstonhis was quite funny too03:17
akgranercjohnston, don't encourage him or becca03:18
cjohnstonneither of them are in here03:18
mhall119akgraner: I'm working on the assumption that by the time my kids are into social media, Facebook will be to them what Geocities is to becca03:21
cjohnstonlol03:21
akgraner:-)03:21
* nigelb joins the fun03:36
cjohnstonakgraner: when is she gonna get on IRC03:36
akgranerNever I hope...03:36
nigelbhahaha03:37
akgranerthat would not be pleasant (for Pete or I)03:37
cprofittwhen is who going to get on irc?03:37
cprofittoh... your daughter?03:37
cjohnstonakgraner: I'll talk to her and help her get setup03:37
nigelbI can help as well03:37
akgranerNoooooo - she will take you up on it - I told she can't have IRC on her mac :-)03:38
akgranerthat the school said they couldn't03:38
cjohnstonShe can put it on a server and ssh in03:38
akgranershe laughed and said  riiiiiiigggttt03:38
nigelbcan she dual boot her mac?03:39
nigelbactually, we can get her to use irccloud.com03:39
nigelbI have invites :D03:40
akgranernope that they won't let them do03:40
akgranerwell after Matthew did it03:40
cjohnstonthe school gives them computers?03:41
cjohnstonshe can use webchat.freenode.net... that's not on her computer.. thats in  her browser03:41
M0hiIf the port is not blocked*03:42
M0hiI coolbhavi's office some ports are inaccessible. So, for webchat, he uses some other ports03:43
M0hinigelb, you are not in -in channel these days? :[03:44
nigelbwoo! ragraner!03:47
cjohnstonlol03:47
ragranerHey, my mom said I shouldn't be in here.03:47
ragranerSo, I'm going to anyways.03:47
nigelbdrat03:47
cjohnstonI had nothing to do with it akgraner03:48
nigelbyou should keep coming in here and #ubuntu-women :)03:48
cjohnstonhey ragraner !03:48
ragranerhaha that's funny.03:48
ragranerheyy!03:48
cjohnstonHow've you been? other than harassing your mother03:49
nigelblol03:49
ragranerOkay, so is there like some sort of language I am suppose to speak in here? something like "98t846485)(*^4846"03:49
ragranerI've been great, busy. School sucks.03:49
ragranerYou?03:49
cjohnstonI could agree with you on all three counts..03:49
cjohnstonTaking a bit of time off from school03:50
nigelbIRC is surprisingly English.03:50
cjohnstonstarting now03:50
nigelbcjohnston: You mean, like, literally now?03:50
cjohnstonwell.. I was in class last week.. it finished. this week is spring break.. and i unenrolled from the class i was going to start next week03:51
ragranerThats a shocker, haha I really wouldn't have expected English.03:51
ragranerWhat for? School is important haa03:51
ragranerAh, why?03:51
cjohnstonI have three degrees.. how many more do I need?03:51
akgranerragraner, why didn't you think we used English03:51
cjohnstonakgraner: we speak binary in here03:51
nigelbThis video tells you exactly what IRC is *not* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded03:51
nigelbIts from numb3rs a few seasons ago03:52
ragranerEverytime someone asks me anything about open source, they expect I speak like, code.03:52
akgranerjono,  3 or 4  graners have invaded your community :-)  just a warning thought you should know03:52
ragranerMother, you barely speak English, don't even start talking about Binary. lol03:52
nigelbso much pwning03:53
jonouh oh03:53
jonothis can't be good :-)03:53
nigelblol03:53
cjohnstonlol03:53
cprofittjono: no, it can not be03:53
cprofitt:-)03:53
nigelbnow we need to get pgraner in here03:53
nigelband also convince mgraner to join up.03:54
ragranernigel b, I liked that :) haha03:55
cprofittragraner: so have you had your mom get any of that finnish candy?03:55
nigelbragraner: it's my go-to video when I need a lugh :)03:55
ragranerAny more Graners and it would be to much. Just enough estrigen, adding my brother would be too much.03:56
nigelbestrogen03:56
ragraneryeah just noticed that haa03:56
akgranercprofitt, no!  Not happening...I still cringe when I think about that stuff03:56
cprofittlol03:56
ragranerthanks to my mother.03:56
ragraner**estrogen.03:57
cprofittI am odd... I rather liked it03:57
cprofittso did randall...03:57
akgranerI think I  am the odd one for not liking it03:57
nigelbwas this the liqourice candy?03:57
cprofittyes03:57
jonough03:57
nigelbakgraner: I'm with you03:57
akgranerjono why ugh?03:58
nigelbjussi trolled me into eating one03:58
ragranercprofitt- na, shes on a diet haha03:58
jonoakgraner, finnish candy03:58
jono:-)03:58
akgraner:-)03:58
cprofittMaybe its a Finnish / Canadian thing03:58
cprofitt:-)03:58
ragranerI heard my mom talking about a code of conduct, am I suppose to sign something? I didn't click "I accept these terms".04:00
cjohnstonragraner: thats when you get involved in the ubuntu community04:00
jonomhall119, looks like CanoniStack public IPs are still down04:00
ragranercjohnston: thank you :) I don't think I'm branching out that far. I would say I'm more like my father, I don't need to smother the community.04:01
akgranerouch04:01
cjohnstonlol04:01
cprofittoooh... wow...04:02
nigelbI want to setup a quotes database just to put all of today's quotes in there.04:02
cprofittthat was a zinger04:02
cjohnstonlol04:02
nigelbhah04:02
cjohnstonragraner: your father has signed the code of conduct04:02
akgranerok ragraner - say bye to everyone04:03
ragranercjohnson: He signed it, but I think he had no choice. lol04:03
cjohnstonlol04:04
nigelbhaha04:04
nigelbbye ragraner! Thanks for the fun tonight :)04:04
nigelbakgraner: You should bring her more often!04:04
ragranerakgraner: or may I call you Amber? why?04:04
cjohnstongood night ragraner04:04
cjohnstonlol04:04
cjohnstonakgraner: you need to put "mom" and "mother" on your highlight list now that she is on here04:04
ragranerI don't know if I want to be indentified through her. Hm...04:05
ragraner:)04:05
ragranerHaha well, alrighty! Bye everyone!  :)04:06
cjohnston:-)04:06
cprofitt:-)04:06
nigelb"I don't need to smother the community" -- I hope akgraner doesn't kill her :P04:09
akgranerI won't - dang - remind me not to let my kids speak openly any more - they will tell you how they really feel04:09
cjohnstonlol04:10
akgranerthanks y'all - now she knows IRC is easy04:10
cjohnstoni had nothing to do with it04:10
akgranershe has been worried it was hard04:10
cprofittgotta go get some sleep folks... have a great night!04:10
akgranercprofitt, night!04:10
akgranercjohnston, I know..she knows how to get to IRC I showed her before UDS  -she is just shy sometimes - until she sees how it is supposed to work04:12
cjohnstonlol04:12
nigelbakgraner: are you brining her to this uds?04:13
cjohnstonso you are to blame04:13
akgranernigelb, there is talk of her showing up at some point  - depends04:13
nigelb:)04:14
nigelbI, of course, won't be there.04:14
nigelbThere's so much stuff happening in real life that I don't have time to be away :(04:14
akgranershe mumbled something about singing a nickelback song to jono04:15
akgranernigelb, yeah...I don't know if I will or not either yet04:15
cjohnstonhrm.. which one04:15
akgranercjohnston, I don't know - all I know is what I just posted.04:16
cjohnstonheh04:16
jononight all!07:30
dholbachgood morning08:10
czajkowskimhall119: why are you up at this hour09:07
s-foxo/10:28
czajkowskis-fox: mornign10:31
czajkowski*morning10:31
s-foxHello czajkowski , how are you today? Ready for the rugby this weekend?10:31
czajkowskis-fox: yup, am good, have a bootcamp tomorrow morning at 8am, which now in hindsight may not have been wise.10:34
s-foxI don't think the kickoff is until 17:00 UTC, at least it isn't the early kickoff czajkowski10:35
czajkowskinope and better than an 8pm match >:(10:38
dholbachwow - one of the ex-Beatles is following @ubuntudev! "Paul MacCartney @PMacCartney is now following you (@ubuntudev). "11:18
dholbach:-P11:18
czajkowskisweet11:19
s-foxdholbach,  is that twitter?11:19
dholbachyes11:19
s-foxhttps://twitter.com/#!/PMacCartney11:19
dholbachI was kidding - I'm quite sure the other Paul is a "Mc" as opposed to "Mac" :)11:19
s-foxDon't think it is the beatle :D11:20
s-foxlol11:20
dpmhi s-fox. We'd like to put a sticky post for a user survey in the forums next week. It's about how people use Ubuntu and the results will be all public. Once I've got the details, do you think you could help me on this?11:54
s-foxdpm,  Sure :-)11:54
dpms-fox, cool, is it ok if I e-mail you the details later on, and then we take it from there?11:55
s-foxdpm,  Let me know when you have your survey completed. Either IRC or mail me @ silver-fox@ubuntu.com with details11:55
dpms-fox, excellent, thanks!11:56
s-foxNo worries.11:56
jcastropopey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/93711813:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 937118 in linux "Wireless stops passing packets" [High,Confirmed]13:04
jcastrocan you see if this affects you with a new kernel?13:04
popeyjcastro: which specific kernel?13:05
popey3.3.0-030300rc1-generic is what i have on it at the moment and it happened earlier today13:05
czajkowskinot piss that man off lightly,http://url.ie/e9fd13:06
jcastropopey: rc6 fixes it for me13:06
jcastropopey: I just need a +1 that rc6 works for you, it's been /awesome/ for me13:06
jcastro"It's why it's not some crazy drug-induced microkernel or other random crazy thing."13:07
jcastrohah13:07
popeybless13:08
cprofittczajkowski: wow... that was a read... exactly the quote I caught jcastro13:08
popeyjcastro: will test over the weekend13:08
czajkowskihe has a way with words alright13:08
czajkowskisaw him last week ranting about secutiry and root password when he wanted to add a printer to his daughters laptop13:08
czajkowskiit needed root13:08
czajkowskithere was much swearing, me I found it amusing13:09
popeyyeah, it's amusing till he starts targetting us13:09
czajkowskiindeed13:09
popeyI'm glad he doesn't run Ubuntu ☺13:10
czajkowskiAlanBell: did you have any luck with the bugs you filed after all the videos you made on accessibilty?13:10
czajkowskiwill they be fixed for 12.0413:10
popeyczajkowski: I've taken those on13:10
popeyI'm speaking to the chaps about it this afternoon13:10
czajkowskipopey: oh deadly13:12
czajkowskiglad something came of it13:12
cprofitt+113:14
jcastroczajkowski: you had a post before about LP work items?13:14
jcastrodid you unpost it?13:14
jcastropopey: also most schools make you auth for printers. I've been on the receiving end of fraternity pranks, etc. with unsecure printers.13:15
jcastroit's a reasonable feature for network printers13:15
cjohnstonHappy birthday mhall119!13:17
czajkowskijcastro: I did13:17
czajkowskijcastro: the launchpad-dev list has more info now13:17
czajkowskiwe're not going ahead with the new roll out now :(13:18
cjohnstonczajkowski: why not and when now?13:18
czajkowskijoint effort and not enough communication it seems13:18
czajkowskihttps://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg09123.html13:18
czajkowskihad hoped to roll out for uds now not sure13:19
jcastroczajkowski: that's ok, I am happy to just see itt on the radar13:22
jcastroczajkowski: do you know if the WIs are exposed via the API?13:22
cjohnstonjcastro: I believe so as I believe that is how status gets them13:23
jcastrodidn't status just grab the whiteboard?13:23
cjohnstoncurrently,y es13:23
cjohnstonwhen it changes, it will get .workitems_text13:23
jcastromarcoceppi: ^^^13:24
* cjohnston grumbles about trello13:24
cjohnstonczajkowski: is there a mail (or thread) with the concerns13:24
jcastrotoo awesome for you chris?13:25
czajkowskicjohnston: yes the one I listed in here :)13:25
czajkowskicjohnston: 13:18 < czajkowski> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg09123.html13:25
cjohnstonI don't see any concerns in it... I just see:  but we understand that there may be some concerns13:26
czajkowskicjohnston: the concerns were raised on a private list13:26
cjohnstonbut of course13:26
jcastrocjohnston: you home today? or a g+able place?14:03
cprofittooh... a new word... g+able14:04
cprofittnice jcastro14:04
jcastroI make up words all the time14:04
jcastroI made one up yesterday during the webinar14:04
cjohnstonya14:04
cprofittthat rocks!14:04
jcastroI totally forgot14:04
nigelbjcastro: "juju"? :P14:05
cjohnstonjcastro:  in at home.. whatcha need14:06
nigelbI just remembered.14:06
nigelbI finished 2 years as Ubuntu member yesterday!14:06
jcastrocjohnston: 5minute trello training yo?14:06
jcastronigelb: \o/14:06
jcastronigelb: lmorchard pushed up some code for a ff sync server charm14:06
cjohnstonI know how to use trello now14:06
nigelbjcastro: woo \o/14:07
nigelbHe's awesome :)14:07
jcastronigelb: if you see him ask him if he needs anything14:07
jcastroI'm pretty sure it's not complete14:07
nigelbSure, will do14:07
jcastrobut it looks like a good start14:07
nigelbI'm guessing you know each other14:07
jcastrowe met a few times at the michigan LUG14:08
nigelbalso, mhall119 hangs out in #webdev on moznet, so I can point at him14:08
jcastroyeah he just needs a teeeeny poke about his charm14:08
jcastrolike is it ready, should I have people reviewing it?14:08
nigelbI'll ask :)14:08
nigelbjcastro: also, lol, dcamp told me about how you said "you guys have already taken nigelb away from us" or something to that affect14:09
nigelb:)14:09
nigelbit was funny14:09
jcastroI am pretty sure I used obscenities, he was being kind. :)14:10
nigelblolololol14:10
jcastrodcamp is gold, he was one of my very first mentors in OSS14:10
nigelbooh, did not know :)14:10
jcastroyeah, Nautilus was mostly his fault14:11
nigelbI've noticed how much worlds collide when I'm in both comunities.14:11
jcastrofeel free to tell him that14:11
nigelbhaha14:11
jcastrothere's a large ex-GNOMER contingent over in MoCo I noticed14:11
nigelbYeah, lucas as well14:11
nigelbI don't know of the others because I wasn't too much into gnome14:12
jcastronigelb: getting folks like dcamp back from OSX is one of the reasons I do what I do. :)14:12
nigelb<314:12
* nigelb notes he's on OSX14:12
nigelbthat's because my adapter caught fire, but yeah.14:12
jcastroof course you are, Mozilla's a mac shop. :)14:12
nigelbhaha14:12
nigelbwell, this is from my day job.14:13
nigelband I've just realized we're a mac shop as well14:13
AlanBellczajkowski: popey: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2012-March/005745.html14:19
AlanBellso from Luke's perspective Unity3d is a writeoff at this stage, which is a bit of a disappointment14:20
AlanBellespecially as most of it worked in the alphas14:20
popeythanks for that AlanBell14:24
jcastrocjohnston: today is handoff day right?14:33
jcastrofor summit?14:33
cjohnstonjcastro: I think so, but I believe there is an issue15:06
jcastrok, I'll link up with mims when he's around15:07
cjohnstonDoes mhall119 think he gets to take the day off because its his birthday or something15:07
jcastroit's his birthday?15:09
cjohnstonsi15:09
jcastrotoday?15:09
jcastromine is tomorrow. :)15:09
cjohnstonthats what FB tells me15:10
jcastrothe more I get to know mhall119 the more awesome he is.15:10
cjohnstonshhh15:10
cjohnstonhe can read the logs15:10
jcastrooh dang.15:10
jcastroquick make fun of him15:10
cjohnstonI was gonna get him to use fix it friday to relax since its his bday and work on summit15:12
dholbachbrb15:15
s-foxmhall119,  Thanks for the comment on my blog, you raised some good questions. I replied :)15:22
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jonohey all15:52
jonomhall119, so my CanoniStack instance is showing, but asking for the password again15:52
jonomhall119, jcastro, balloons, dholbach, dpm all ready?15:59
dholbachyep15:59
jonocool, firing it up16:00
balloonsfire in the hole!16:00
dpmjono, yep16:00
jcastroYEP16:00
jonomic not working, rebooting16:01
dholbachweird, I got only noise16:01
jonocan you send me an invite?16:01
dholbachah ok, sure16:01
dpmah, no wonder why I couldn't get in16:02
jcastrodholbach: close your browsers16:02
jcastroand look for the googletalk process16:03
jcastroprobably hung16:03
jcastroor ZOMBIE16:03
dpmkillall!!!16:03
jcastrokill it with fire, then try again16:03
dholbachor it was you sending noise all the time16:03
balloonsmy browser's have been acting funny too :-(16:03
balloonsi think i'm going to reboot also16:04
dpmman, it's like going back to windows!16:05
* dpm resists rebooting16:05
jonodholbach, jcastro can you invite to the hangout16:06
jcastrook so I closed out to make sure it's not me16:07
jcastrojono: start a fresh one16:07
jonook invites sent16:07
jonodpm, dholbach, balloons, jcastro, mhall119 ^^^16:07
dpmjono, we're in a hangout already, is it the same?16:08
jonook one sec16:08
cjohnstonim confused16:08
cjohnstonlol16:08
technovikingmorning all16:12
technovikinghey, Unity got really snappy this morning with the latest updates. No more menu drawing issues. Woot!16:15
dpmI'm free!16:22
dpmok, rejoining16:22
jonohey dvestal :-)16:28
dvestalhey jono16:29
s-foxHello jono , thanks for the comment on my blog post. I replied to your points :)16:29
jonothanks s-fox, will respond soon16:30
cjohnstonjono: do you have 10 minutes today? IRC is fine.16:36
jonocjohnston, sure16:44
jonoon a call right now16:44
cjohnstonping me when you have time :-)16:44
cjohnstoni dont have much of anything happening today so I'm fairly free16:45
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s-foxI am going for a run. See you all later :)16:56
cjohnstonenjoy16:56
jcastrojono: meant to catch you on the end of the call but I had to move a PT session and I wanted to see what our new call schedule was17:07
balloonstechnoviking, glad it's working happily for you.. something killed my desktop this morning :-(17:07
jonojcastro, so it looks like we didnt finalize it17:07
jcastroI think we said "calls on friday" but didn't put it on the calendar17:07
* jcastro nods17:07
technovikingballoons: ack!17:07
jonojcastro, lets do it at 9.30am Pacific every Friu17:07
jcastrojono: anyway I can go anytime before 1500 EST.17:08
jcastrook17:08
nigelbjcastro: I talked to lorchard. He said he didn't have a chance to fix his env, for some reason juju screwed up and then he couldn't figure it out17:08
jcastroah nuts17:08
jcastroLXC I bet17:08
jonojcastro, cal invite sent17:09
jcastroah nuts, just sent one17:09
jcastroignore mine17:09
jcastrosince I appear to have scheduled it for saturdays17:10
jcastrosigh, what a day17:10
dholbachdpm, I didn't know you were on mixcloud too ;-)17:11
dpmdholbach, I am now ;)17:11
dholbachdpm, i think it's a really interesting way to fix the "top items will always be at the top" problem17:12
dholbachand I think there's no easily understandable way around showing different kind of lists17:13
dholbachdpm, let me know if you like the music :-P17:15
jcastrojono: oh hey, do we want to go now?17:33
jonojcastro, we already chatted this week, so I think we are good17:34
jcastrojono: most of my stuff is the same status as our talk on monday17:34
jonounless you wanted a call17:34
jononp17:34
jcastroother than hopefully Summit finishing RSN17:34
jcastrojono: nope, not unless you want to sing Somewhere in Time acapella17:34
jcastroyou know it'd be awesome17:34
jcastroMarching on ...... Marching on!!!17:34
cjohnstonneed to go a google hangout on air for that one17:34
jonojcastro, lol17:41
jonomy Twisted bug got fixed, woo!17:42
jonoI am stoked17:42
jononow all the accomplishments scripts run perfectly17:42
jcastroI had an awesome bug experience too17:42
jcastroends up Popey filed it though17:42
jcastrobut didn't follow through17:42
jcastroBut I HOOKED IT UP yo17:42
dholbachjono, "u1sdtool --current" still hangs for me17:42
jonodholbach, did you get the new python-twisted?17:43
dholbachlet me doublecheck17:43
jono:-)17:43
greg-gjcastro: hahaha, I was subscribed to that bug since I have a x220 also :)17:44
dholbachjono, ahhhh, here we go17:44
dholbachawesome17:45
jcastrogreg-g: try RC6, it's lovely17:45
jono:-)17:45
greg-gjcastro: not on precise with the x220 yet ;)17:45
greg-gI know I know17:45
jcastrooh ok17:45
jcastrono worries man17:45
jcastrogreg-g: it's not like you filed a bug and abandoned it17:45
* jcastro eyes popey17:46
greg-glol17:46
jcastro:)17:46
jcastroit was a hard one though17:46
jcastroall the attention was going to jono's wireless bug, which was like most people17:46
jcastroso when that got fixed I was like "oh ok, done."17:46
jcastrobut this one was sneaky, it was kind of not obvious17:46
* popey glares at jcastro 17:47
jcastrocjohnston: ping17:47
cjohnstonpong17:50
cjohnstonwhats up jcastro17:51
jcastrohey you don't have access to the machine summit runs on right?17:52
jcastrocjohnston: m_3 has questions about the dev environment he needs answered17:52
jcastroalmost done though!17:52
jcastrom_3: ok he's here17:59
m_3jcastro: thanks18:01
technovikingjcastro: tiaz ping me and they are going to upgrade to 4.x on staging18:03
jcastro\o/18:03
jcastro<-- lunch18:17
pleia2technoviking: fingers crossed! :)18:17
dholbachalright my friends - over here it's time to have dinner and kick off the weekend - have a good one yourself and see you soon! :)18:22
jonodholbach, have fun!18:23
popeyo/18:23
pleia2have a nice weekend dholbach :)18:23
dholbachyou too :)18:23
technovikingpleia2: thanks18:32
balloonsdoes anyone know why all the bugs I report are being marked as private? I suspect it's perhaps something I did, or apport is doing it since it's uploading potentially sensitive data when it crashes18:46
AlanBellthe latter18:47
AlanBellif it includes a memory dump that could include in-memory passwords18:47
nigelbballoons: it will be made public automatically18:47
nigelbonce apport does the retrcacing18:47
AlanBellthese get removed and made public18:47
balloonsahh18:47
balloonsyes, it has to retrace18:48
balloonsneat18:48
balloonsthanks :-)18:48
jcastrolately I don't even get to that18:48
jcastrothe dupe detection catches it18:48
jcastrowoo18:48
balloonslol.. yea.. I'm original jcastro18:48
balloonsmy bugs are unique18:48
akgranergrrr - now is the time in the cycle when my machine starts over heating  - kernel testing time - anyone else having over heating issues?18:50
hggdhyo, who takes care of UWN?18:54
pleia2hggdh: probably me18:54
pleia2the team is in #ubuntu-news18:55
hggdhpleia2: popping in there, then18:55
Amozjcastro: oh hai there19:00
jcastrohi19:01
Amozjcastro: remember me?19:01
jcastronot offhand I'm afraid19:01
AmozI asked a couple of days ago if there's anything to do here :)19:01
Amozholbach sent me here19:01
AmozI'm looking for something webbyish to work on19:01
jcastrooh you were looking for the web team19:02
jcastroAmoz: know any django?19:02
Amozjcastro: sorry, I can't help you with the accomplishment project19:02
Amoznot good enough19:02
jcastroheh ok19:02
Amozbut I looked at Django19:02
Amozand I'm willing to learn19:02
jcastrowhat do you have in mind?19:02
Amozwell, I'm sort of open to everything19:03
Amozbut it'd take some time before I could actually do effective dev with Django19:03
jcastrowhat are you familiar with?19:03
Amozwell, HTML/CSS, PHP, MySQL, learning a little jQuery19:04
Amozin the web field that is19:04
Amozknow some python, Java, C etc.19:04
jcastrook19:05
jcastrolet me find some web team resources19:05
jcastroit should point you in the right direction19:05
Amozcool, thank you19:05
jcastrohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/community-web-projects19:07
jcastroaha!19:07
jcastrohey so join that list19:07
jcastrointroduce yourself, explain what you know and what you are interested in working on19:07
Amozsounds scary19:07
nigelbthere's like 4 people on the list :P19:07
cjohnstonAmoz: we need django help with Summit and LTP... a great place to start learning19:07
nigelbit19:07
cjohnstonnigelb: shush19:07
nigelbs not scary at all :)19:07
M0hilol19:08
jcastrodo you guys have an IRC channel for the webteam?19:08
Amozwell thank you, that's comforting19:08
nigelb-website19:08
nigelbI mean #ubuntu-website19:08
Amozwe can continue the discussion there then19:08
jcastrowoo!19:10
jcastrocjohnston: m_3: did you guys get sorted?19:10
cjohnstonjcastro: no..19:10
cjohnstonits having issues that we need mhall119's help on19:10
m_3jcastro: we made progress though... it looks like we're still missing some production config info19:12
jcastrook19:13
jcastrom_3: can you summarize this in an email to the LF folks?19:13
m_3jcastro: and then the setup itself for linux plumbers19:13
jcastroso basically we're done, we're just missing like a few config setup stuff?19:13
m_3who's gonna be running it on their end?19:13
jcastrothe person on the other end of the email thread19:13
m_3jcastro: yeah, django's coming up and talking to the db and memcache... we just gotta configure it properly19:14
jcastrom_3: you're CCed on the original mail right?19:14
m_3and it looks like mhall's the one to talk to about that19:14
m_3yup19:14
m_3what acct are we going to be hosting this under?19:14
m_3jcastro: do I need to set up something special or will I need to walk somebody through setup on their own account?19:16
bkerensaGood Morning Everyone19:22
greg-gbarely19:30
bkerensagreg-g: well I kind of cheated because it is 11:32 and I just now woke :P19:32
greg-gI've been up since 5:30 (I have a 3 mo old :) )19:35
bkerensagreg-g: at least you have a reason to justify staying up late... my excuse is usually along the lines of insomnia and having to finish work on a patch to submit :D19:35
greg-goh, I don't stay up late. I'm in bed (holding Rowan) at around 8pm. I am up at midnight, 2am, 3am, etc though :) just not straight through19:44
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pleia2welcome lfaraone :)20:36
lfaraonehi there. ping, jono.20:36
lfaraoneBasically, dholbach put out a call for people-who-aren't-him to do GSoC a while back.20:37
jonolfaraone, we are already chatting :-)20:37
lfaraonehah okay.20:37
pleia2jono: I've been talking to lfaraone too, wanted to bring everyone together20:37
jonooh I see20:37
* jono was confused :-)20:37
lfaraonejono: right, I had pinged you, then chatted with pleia2, and then you replied20:38
pleia2https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-February/034716.html is dholbach's announcement that bkerensa and lfaraone followed up with to handle administration20:38
jonoso the last I discussed this with dholbach, I clarified that Canonical will not be pursuing GSoC20:39
jonobut of course the community are welcome to20:39
jonoI discussed with the engineering managers about their staff participation and they preferred not to20:39
pleia2lfaraone: do you know what is involved regarding funds?20:39
pleia2as a CC member I fully support the community taking this on, and we'll help as needed20:40
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lfaraonepleia2: some organisation needs to accept payment, meaing needs to have the information on https://services.google.com/inquiry/supplier_enroll20:41
lfaraoneso some sort of corporation. in our case, would the Ubuntu Foundation suffice?20:41
pleia2jono: can Canonical spend the resources in just handling the funding side if the community handles the rest?20:41
jonopleia2, I would need to check with Michelle20:42
pleia2I don't know who handles control of the Ubuntu Foundation, or if it would be appropriate20:42
jonoit would be her call20:42
jonoshe handles the admin of Ubuntu related project such as this20:42
jonoI only checked to see if the engineering managers would commit their staff20:42
jonopleia2, I will check with Michelle to see what she says20:42
pleia2jono: thank you :)20:42
jono(she may also need to check with her manager, Rick)20:43
lfaraonejono: please let me know ASAP; this is due by 23:00 UTC20:43
pleia2oh dear20:43
jonolfaraone, it won't be until Monday, she is in England20:43
jonothis looks like it is all a bit last minute20:44
pleia2it was handled poorly, dholbach emailed back in february and in spite of interest it was never clear who was planning on being in control of this20:44
jonoagreed20:44
jonodholbach raised it with me, I checked with the managers, and confirmed Canonical would not be committing to it, but not sure what has happened since then20:45
lfaraonejono: well, I wasn't aware that there was an agreement the *mentoring org* had to agree to, not just the *mentoring admin*20:45
jonolfaraone, I am not sure what is involve tbh20:45
lfaraonejono: I was told earlier this week to to ahead with it, but wasn't clear I can agree to the terms.20:45
jonoI haven't really been in the loop on this20:45
jonolfaraone, understoof20:45
jonolfaraone, understood20:45
lfaraonethe agreement is (rather poorly formatted) at http://paste.ubuntu.com/876562/20:46
jonosorry, I have to run to the dentist, will be back in a bit20:46
jonoI am happy to mail Michelle if you want me to20:47
jonobut not sure if it will be too late20:47
pleia2lfaraone: can you email  p2phelp@google.com to ask for an extension due to funding confusion?20:47
pleia2jono: that'd be great, maybe we can get this in20:47
jonopleia2, worth trying :-)20:48
jonoback soon20:48
bkerensalfaraone: :) sorry I missed part of this convo20:50
bkerensa:P20:50
bkerensapleia2: I think mentoring is a great thing in fact I just blogged about the importance of open source mentoring in academia today20:52
lfaraonejono, pleia2, I asked around, and was told "it will probably not help to ask for an extension"20:52
pleia2lfaraone: oh dear :(20:53
bkerensalfaraone: have you asked carols by chance?20:55
lfaraonebkerensa: sent her a mail.20:55
lfaraonepleia2: p2phelp isn't approprete for this mail; they get involved really late in the process. I just mailed the person in charge of GSoC20:55
pleia2lfaraone: gotcha, I was just looking at the address on the page :) thanks for sending that20:56
bkerensacarols is one of Google's Open Source Manager folks so she might be able to help20:56
bkerensaI met her last year at oscon20:56
lfaraonebkerensa: yes, ISTR she runs GSoC20:57
bkerensaThis is why a fully functioning Ubuntu Foundation would be nice20:59
pleia2yeah, I thought this was all being handled, when I asked about it I was pointed at dholbach's thread, otherwise I would have paid more attention21:00
pleia2it was terribly disappointing that we weren't involved last year, I got a lot of questions about it21:00
lfaraonepleia2: I'm sorry that I didn't discover this earlier.21:00
bkerensapleia2: I'm surprised dholbach pushed it so hard if Canonical did not want to be involved21:00
bkerensa=/21:00
lfaraoneI wans't aware that Canonical had decided not to do GSoC; I know that dholbach said he didn't have enough time for it.21:01
bkerensayeah he made no mention of a lack of support from Canonical21:01
pleia2yeah, this is all very odd21:01
bkerensaUnfortunately I'm unsure if he will be on tonight at all since it is Friday21:01
pleia2nah, he's left for the evening21:02
lfaraonewell, I emailed him about it.21:02
greg-g:(21:19
greg-gno other real comment. just sad there won't be any Ubuntu-specific GSOC projects again21:20
jcastroDaviey, hey so the hosted Alice IRC just blew up.21:27
jcastroI want to move to canonistack as soon as I can so ping me the minute he releases. :)21:27
balloonsjcastro, hosted Alice IRC?21:30
jcastrousealice.org21:32
jcastroI've been working on the charm but waiting for an upstream release for it to be totally awesome21:32
Davieyjcastro: it's released.. some time ago !21:32
Davieyjcastro: the issue is that a new upstream deb version is a PITA, as they switched core library, which isn't yet packaged21:33
Davieynot had time to package the new dep yet ;(21:33
jcastroah nuts!21:37
jcastrohttps://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway21:38
jcastrohave you seen this one?21:38
jcastrobkerensa is convincing them to hook us up with charms21:38
jcastroand since it uses mongo we will be webscale!21:39
Davieyjcastro: ddue, you replied to my mail where i mentioned it :)21:39
cjohnstonjcastro wants a 5 dollar foot long charm?21:40
jcastroDaviey, ok sorry, I get discombobulated when it comes to IRC  web clients.21:41
Davieyheh21:41
jcastrohe was like "the drive died on the machine"21:41
jcastroI'm like bro, put this on AWS21:41
jcastroI envision a server sitting precariously on a chair or something, similar to the etherpad/Daviey set up21:42
balloonshehe.. servers on chairs21:49
balloonsso gud!21:49
lfaraonepleia2 et al: I mean, in the past unincorporated projects can apply to GSoC. So if you want to make "The Ubuntu Community Council" running the project, that works I guess.21:55
bkerensalfaraone: but how would funding be handles I noticed the link requested bank account info and tax id's?21:59
lfaraonebkerensa: in the past, that's handled very late in the game, like in June. s21:59
lfaraoneso we'd have time to figure that out.22:00
pleia2ok, sent off big email about it to the CC and a few of you22:00
lfaraoneStudents are paid directly by Google.22:00
lfaraoneThe tax stuff is about the $500 / project "mentor stipend".22:00
pleia2also, argh, UDS registration didn't open today? I sent off like half a dozen emails to people asking me about it and told them it would be today22:00
* pleia2 is now getting annoyed replies22:00
pleia2I am not having a very good day :)22:01
lfaraonepleia2: :(22:02
JanCbkerensa: I'm pretty sure the French and/or German locoteam have tax IDs...   ;)22:16
JanCand even the Belgian locoteam has a bank account22:16
JanC(and unlike the French & German teams, we are not incorporated)22:17
bkerensajcastro: you around?22:33
bkerensaor mhall119 even22:33

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