[00:27] <nigelb> mhall119: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[00:29] <cjohnston> nigelb: your early :-P
[00:30] <mhall119> what?
[00:30]  * nigelb waves from future
[00:30] <mhall119> nigelb: I'm getting old fast enough, no need to help it along :P
[00:30] <cjohnston> lol
[00:30] <nigelb> mhall119: Wait, isn't today (er, tomorrow) your birthday?
[00:32] <mhall119> nigelb: today for you, but tomorrow for me
[00:32] <nigelb> HA!
[00:32] <nigelb> Happy Birthday in advance then! :)
[01:02] <mhall119> thanks nigelb :)
[02:05] <jono> mhall119, around?
[02:05] <jono> or cjohnston
[02:05] <jono> what is branch of the ubuntu django theme again?
[02:06] <cjohnston> lp:ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-django-theme
[02:06] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[02:07] <bkerensa> =/ man sometimes I'm so busy I feel like I need a Ticket System
[02:07] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[02:07] <cjohnston> np
[02:07] <cjohnston> np
[02:26] <bkerensa> jono: are you around?
[02:27] <jono> bkerensa, I am, but I am a bit busy?
[02:27] <jono> why?
[02:29] <bkerensa> jono: Was just wondering if you might be able to give a short shoutout on twitter to @puppetlabs in the next week or two for their awesome contributions to the local Ubuntu Community.. their CM had specifically mentioned they would treat especially well if that ever occurred (they already treat us nice)
[02:29] <jono> they will treat us well if I tweet about them?
[02:30] <bkerensa> jono: they will treat our loco even better :P I dont know what they might do for you :) they seem to like you a bit
[02:31] <bkerensa> we have our release party next month and they are hosting us for the 4th time now but I'm ehh trying to talk them into sponsoring us food in addition to beer and soda
[02:32] <jono> bkerensa, I will tweet about it closer to the time
[02:32] <bkerensa> k
[02:32] <jono> cheers
[02:32] <bkerensa> cheers indeed
[02:32] <bkerensa>  :)
[03:04] <akgraner> nigelb, you are missing becca and her sense of humor - she is spamming my facebook page
[03:07] <nigelb> akgraner: hahahaha
[03:08] <akgraner> did you read the other ones - I think she spammed all of my  status' from January and Feb
[03:09] <akgraner> nigelb, best on yet from her tonight  - " Only Jesus can help these wrinkles. But I'm pretty sure hes not working for the makeup department."
[03:10] <nigelb> I saw that and laughed :)
[03:11] <mhall119> akgraner: she cracks me up
[03:11] <akgraner> mhall119, I know right...I'd laugh even more if I wasn't the subject of her humor
[03:12] <mhall119> akgraner: that does make it easier for me to lauch :)
[03:12] <mhall119> I'm glad my kids aren't on Facebook
[03:13] <cjohnston> yety
[03:13] <cjohnston> yet
[03:13] <akgraner> oh you just wait - one day they will be
[03:15] <akgraner> mhall119, one thing that isn't lacking around my house is humor.
[03:16] <akgraner> granted it's at my expense but still
[03:16] <cjohnston> even Pete got in on it yesterday
[03:17] <akgraner> I know - sigh
[03:17] <cjohnston> his was quite funny too
[03:18] <akgraner> cjohnston, don't encourage him or becca
[03:18] <cjohnston> neither of them are in here
[03:21] <mhall119> akgraner: I'm working on the assumption that by the time my kids are into social media, Facebook will be to them what Geocities is to becca
[03:21] <cjohnston> lol
[03:21] <akgraner> :-)
[03:36]  * nigelb joins the fun
[03:36] <cjohnston> akgraner: when is she gonna get on IRC
[03:36] <akgraner> Never I hope...
[03:37] <nigelb> hahaha
[03:37] <akgraner> that would not be pleasant (for Pete or I)
[03:37] <cprofitt> when is who going to get on irc?
[03:37] <cprofitt> oh... your daughter?
[03:37] <cjohnston> akgraner: I'll talk to her and help her get setup
[03:37] <nigelb> I can help as well
[03:38] <akgraner> Noooooo - she will take you up on it - I told she can't have IRC on her mac :-)
[03:38] <akgraner> that the school said they couldn't
[03:38] <cjohnston> She can put it on a server and ssh in
[03:38] <akgraner> she laughed and said  riiiiiiigggttt
[03:39] <nigelb> can she dual boot her mac?
[03:39] <nigelb> actually, we can get her to use irccloud.com
[03:40] <nigelb> I have invites :D
[03:40] <akgraner> nope that they won't let them do
[03:40] <akgraner> well after Matthew did it
[03:41] <cjohnston> the school gives them computers?
[03:41] <cjohnston> she can use webchat.freenode.net... that's not on her computer.. thats in  her browser
[03:42] <M0hi> If the port is not blocked*
[03:43] <M0hi> I coolbhavi's office some ports are inaccessible. So, for webchat, he uses some other ports
[03:44] <M0hi> nigelb, you are not in -in channel these days? :[
[03:47] <nigelb> woo! ragraner!
[03:47] <cjohnston> lol
[03:47] <ragraner> Hey, my mom said I shouldn't be in here.
[03:47] <ragraner> So, I'm going to anyways.
[03:47] <nigelb> drat
[03:48] <cjohnston> I had nothing to do with it akgraner
[03:48] <nigelb> you should keep coming in here and #ubuntu-women :)
[03:48] <cjohnston> hey ragraner !
[03:48] <ragraner> haha that's funny.
[03:48] <ragraner> heyy!
[03:49] <cjohnston> How've you been? other than harassing your mother
[03:49] <nigelb> lol
[03:49] <ragraner> Okay, so is there like some sort of language I am suppose to speak in here? something like "98t846485)(*^4846"
[03:49] <ragraner> I've been great, busy. School sucks.
[03:49] <ragraner> You?
[03:49] <cjohnston> I could agree with you on all three counts..
[03:50] <cjohnston> Taking a bit of time off from school
[03:50] <nigelb> IRC is surprisingly English.
[03:50] <cjohnston> starting now
[03:50] <nigelb> cjohnston: You mean, like, literally now?
[03:51] <cjohnston> well.. I was in class last week.. it finished. this week is spring break.. and i unenrolled from the class i was going to start next week
[03:51] <ragraner> Thats a shocker, haha I really wouldn't have expected English.
[03:51] <ragraner> What for? School is important haa
[03:51] <ragraner> Ah, why?
[03:51] <cjohnston> I have three degrees.. how many more do I need?
[03:51] <akgraner> ragraner, why didn't you think we used English
[03:51] <cjohnston> akgraner: we speak binary in here
[03:51] <nigelb> This video tells you exactly what IRC is *not* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded
[03:52] <nigelb> Its from numb3rs a few seasons ago
[03:52] <ragraner> Everytime someone asks me anything about open source, they expect I speak like, code.
[03:52] <akgraner> jono,  3 or 4  graners have invaded your community :-)  just a warning thought you should know
[03:52] <ragraner> Mother, you barely speak English, don't even start talking about Binary. lol
[03:53] <nigelb> so much pwning
[03:53] <jono> uh oh
[03:53] <jono> this can't be good :-)
[03:53] <nigelb> lol
[03:53] <cjohnston> lol
[03:53] <cprofitt> jono: no, it can not be
[03:53] <cprofitt> :-)
[03:53] <nigelb> now we need to get pgraner in here
[03:54] <nigelb> and also convince mgraner to join up.
[03:55] <ragraner> nigel b, I liked that :) haha
[03:55] <cprofitt> ragraner: so have you had your mom get any of that finnish candy?
[03:55] <nigelb> ragraner: it's my go-to video when I need a lugh :)
[03:56] <ragraner> Any more Graners and it would be to much. Just enough estrigen, adding my brother would be too much.
[03:56] <nigelb> estrogen
[03:56] <ragraner> yeah just noticed that haa
[03:56] <akgraner> cprofitt, no!  Not happening...I still cringe when I think about that stuff
[03:56] <cprofitt> lol
[03:56] <ragraner> thanks to my mother.
[03:57] <ragraner> **estrogen.
[03:57] <cprofitt> I am odd... I rather liked it
[03:57] <cprofitt> so did randall...
[03:57] <akgraner> I think I  am the odd one for not liking it
[03:57] <nigelb> was this the liqourice candy?
[03:57] <cprofitt> yes
[03:57] <jono> ugh
[03:57] <nigelb> akgraner: I'm with you
[03:58] <akgraner> jono why ugh?
[03:58] <nigelb> jussi trolled me into eating one
[03:58] <ragraner> cprofitt- na, shes on a diet haha
[03:58] <jono> akgraner, finnish candy
[03:58] <jono> :-)
[03:58] <akgraner> :-)
[03:58] <cprofitt> Maybe its a Finnish / Canadian thing
[03:58] <cprofitt> :-)
[04:00] <ragraner> I heard my mom talking about a code of conduct, am I suppose to sign something? I didn't click "I accept these terms".
[04:00] <cjohnston> ragraner: thats when you get involved in the ubuntu community
[04:00] <jono> mhall119, looks like CanoniStack public IPs are still down
[04:01] <ragraner> cjohnston: thank you :) I don't think I'm branching out that far. I would say I'm more like my father, I don't need to smother the community.
[04:01] <akgraner> ouch
[04:01] <cjohnston> lol
[04:02] <cprofitt> oooh... wow...
[04:02] <nigelb> I want to setup a quotes database just to put all of today's quotes in there.
[04:02] <cprofitt> that was a zinger
[04:02] <cjohnston> lol
[04:02] <nigelb> hah
[04:02] <cjohnston> ragraner: your father has signed the code of conduct
[04:03] <akgraner> ok ragraner - say bye to everyone
[04:03] <ragraner> cjohnson: He signed it, but I think he had no choice. lol
[04:04] <cjohnston> lol
[04:04] <nigelb> haha
[04:04] <nigelb> bye ragraner! Thanks for the fun tonight :)
[04:04] <nigelb> akgraner: You should bring her more often!
[04:04] <ragraner> akgraner: or may I call you Amber? why?
[04:04] <cjohnston> good night ragraner
[04:04] <cjohnston> lol
[04:04] <cjohnston> akgraner: you need to put "mom" and "mother" on your highlight list now that she is on here
[04:05] <ragraner> I don't know if I want to be indentified through her. Hm...
[04:05] <ragraner> :)
[04:06] <ragraner> Haha well, alrighty! Bye everyone!  :)
[04:06] <cjohnston> :-)
[04:06] <cprofitt> :-)
[04:09] <nigelb> "I don't need to smother the community" -- I hope akgraner doesn't kill her :P
[04:09] <akgraner> I won't - dang - remind me not to let my kids speak openly any more - they will tell you how they really feel
[04:10] <cjohnston> lol
[04:10] <akgraner> thanks y'all - now she knows IRC is easy
[04:10] <cjohnston> i had nothing to do with it
[04:10] <akgraner> she has been worried it was hard
[04:10] <cprofitt> gotta go get some sleep folks... have a great night!
[04:10] <akgraner> cprofitt, night!
[04:12] <akgraner> cjohnston, I know..she knows how to get to IRC I showed her before UDS  -she is just shy sometimes - until she sees how it is supposed to work
[04:12] <cjohnston> lol
[04:13] <nigelb> akgraner: are you brining her to this uds?
[04:13] <cjohnston> so you are to blame
[04:13] <akgraner> nigelb, there is talk of her showing up at some point  - depends
[04:14] <nigelb> :)
[04:14] <nigelb> I, of course, won't be there.
[04:14] <nigelb> There's so much stuff happening in real life that I don't have time to be away :(
[04:15] <akgraner> she mumbled something about singing a nickelback song to jono
[04:15] <akgraner> nigelb, yeah...I don't know if I will or not either yet
[04:15] <cjohnston> hrm.. which one
[04:16] <akgraner> cjohnston, I don't know - all I know is what I just posted.
[04:16] <cjohnston> heh
[07:30] <jono> night all!
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[09:07] <czajkowski> mhall119: why are you up at this hour
[10:28] <s-fox> o/
[10:31] <czajkowski> s-fox: mornign
[10:31] <czajkowski> *morning
[10:31] <s-fox> Hello czajkowski , how are you today? Ready for the rugby this weekend?
[10:34] <czajkowski> s-fox: yup, am good, have a bootcamp tomorrow morning at 8am, which now in hindsight may not have been wise.
[10:35] <s-fox> I don't think the kickoff is until 17:00 UTC, at least it isn't the early kickoff czajkowski
[10:38] <czajkowski> nope and better than an 8pm match >:(
[11:18] <dholbach> wow - one of the ex-Beatles is following @ubuntudev! "Paul MacCartney @PMacCartney is now following you (@ubuntudev). "
[11:18] <dholbach> :-P
[11:19] <czajkowski> sweet
[11:19] <s-fox> dholbach,  is that twitter?
[11:19] <dholbach> yes
[11:19] <s-fox> https://twitter.com/#!/PMacCartney
[11:19] <dholbach> I was kidding - I'm quite sure the other Paul is a "Mc" as opposed to "Mac" :)
[11:20] <s-fox> Don't think it is the beatle :D
[11:20] <s-fox> lol
[11:54] <dpm> hi s-fox. We'd like to put a sticky post for a user survey in the forums next week. It's about how people use Ubuntu and the results will be all public. Once I've got the details, do you think you could help me on this?
[11:54] <s-fox> dpm,  Sure :-)
[11:55] <dpm> s-fox, cool, is it ok if I e-mail you the details later on, and then we take it from there?
[11:55] <s-fox> dpm,  Let me know when you have your survey completed. Either IRC or mail me @ silver-fox@ubuntu.com with details
[11:56] <dpm> s-fox, excellent, thanks!
[11:56] <s-fox> No worries.
[13:04] <jcastro> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/937118
[13:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 937118 in linux "Wireless stops passing packets" [High,Confirmed]
[13:04] <jcastro> can you see if this affects you with a new kernel?
[13:05] <popey> jcastro: which specific kernel?
[13:05] <popey> 3.3.0-030300rc1-generic is what i have on it at the moment and it happened earlier today
[13:06] <czajkowski> not piss that man off lightly,http://url.ie/e9fd
[13:06] <jcastro> popey: rc6 fixes it for me
[13:06] <jcastro> popey: I just need a +1 that rc6 works for you, it's been /awesome/ for me
[13:07] <jcastro> "It's why it's not some crazy drug-induced microkernel or other random crazy thing."
[13:07] <jcastro> hah
[13:08] <popey> bless
[13:08] <cprofitt> czajkowski: wow... that was a read... exactly the quote I caught jcastro
[13:08] <popey> jcastro: will test over the weekend
[13:08] <czajkowski> he has a way with words alright
[13:08] <czajkowski> saw him last week ranting about secutiry and root password when he wanted to add a printer to his daughters laptop
[13:08] <czajkowski> it needed root
[13:09] <czajkowski> there was much swearing, me I found it amusing
[13:09] <popey> yeah, it's amusing till he starts targetting us
[13:09] <czajkowski> indeed
[13:10] <popey> I'm glad he doesn't run Ubuntu ☺
[13:10] <czajkowski> AlanBell: did you have any luck with the bugs you filed after all the videos you made on accessibilty?
[13:10] <czajkowski> will they be fixed for 12.04
[13:10] <popey> czajkowski: I've taken those on
[13:10] <popey> I'm speaking to the chaps about it this afternoon
[13:12] <czajkowski> popey: oh deadly
[13:12] <czajkowski> glad something came of it
[13:14] <cprofitt> +1
[13:14] <jcastro> czajkowski: you had a post before about LP work items?
[13:14] <jcastro> did you unpost it?
[13:15] <jcastro> popey: also most schools make you auth for printers. I've been on the receiving end of fraternity pranks, etc. with unsecure printers.
[13:15] <jcastro> it's a reasonable feature for network printers
[13:17] <cjohnston> Happy birthday mhall119!
[13:17] <czajkowski> jcastro: I did
[13:17] <czajkowski> jcastro: the launchpad-dev list has more info now
[13:18] <czajkowski> we're not going ahead with the new roll out now :(
[13:18] <cjohnston> czajkowski: why not and when now?
[13:18] <czajkowski> joint effort and not enough communication it seems
[13:18] <czajkowski> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg09123.html
[13:19] <czajkowski> had hoped to roll out for uds now not sure
[13:22] <jcastro> czajkowski: that's ok, I am happy to just see itt on the radar
[13:22] <jcastro> czajkowski: do you know if the WIs are exposed via the API?
[13:23] <cjohnston> jcastro: I believe so as I believe that is how status gets them
[13:23] <jcastro> didn't status just grab the whiteboard?
[13:23] <cjohnston> currently,y es
[13:23] <cjohnston> when it changes, it will get .workitems_text
[13:24] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ^^^
[13:24]  * cjohnston grumbles about trello
[13:24] <cjohnston> czajkowski: is there a mail (or thread) with the concerns
[13:25] <jcastro> too awesome for you chris?
[13:25] <czajkowski> cjohnston: yes the one I listed in here :)
[13:25] <czajkowski> cjohnston: 13:18 < czajkowski> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg09123.html
[13:26] <cjohnston> I don't see any concerns in it... I just see:  but we understand that there may be some concerns
[13:26] <czajkowski> cjohnston: the concerns were raised on a private list
[13:26] <cjohnston> but of course
[14:03] <jcastro> cjohnston: you home today? or a g+able place?
[14:04] <cprofitt> ooh... a new word... g+able
[14:04] <cprofitt> nice jcastro
[14:04] <jcastro> I make up words all the time
[14:04] <jcastro> I made one up yesterday during the webinar
[14:04] <cjohnston> ya
[14:04] <cprofitt> that rocks!
[14:04] <jcastro> I totally forgot
[14:05] <nigelb> jcastro: "juju"? :P
[14:06] <cjohnston> jcastro:  in at home.. whatcha need
[14:06] <nigelb> I just remembered.
[14:06] <nigelb> I finished 2 years as Ubuntu member yesterday!
[14:06] <jcastro> cjohnston: 5minute trello training yo?
[14:06] <jcastro> nigelb: \o/
[14:06] <jcastro> nigelb: lmorchard pushed up some code for a ff sync server charm
[14:06] <cjohnston> I know how to use trello now
[14:07] <nigelb> jcastro: woo \o/
[14:07] <nigelb> He's awesome :)
[14:07] <jcastro> nigelb: if you see him ask him if he needs anything
[14:07] <jcastro> I'm pretty sure it's not complete
[14:07] <nigelb> Sure, will do
[14:07] <jcastro> but it looks like a good start
[14:07] <nigelb> I'm guessing you know each other
[14:08] <jcastro> we met a few times at the michigan LUG
[14:08] <nigelb> also, mhall119 hangs out in #webdev on moznet, so I can point at him
[14:08] <jcastro> yeah he just needs a teeeeny poke about his charm
[14:08] <jcastro> like is it ready, should I have people reviewing it?
[14:08] <nigelb> I'll ask :)
[14:09] <nigelb> jcastro: also, lol, dcamp told me about how you said "you guys have already taken nigelb away from us" or something to that affect
[14:09] <nigelb> :)
[14:09] <nigelb> it was funny
[14:10] <jcastro> I am pretty sure I used obscenities, he was being kind. :)
[14:10] <nigelb> lolololol
[14:10] <jcastro> dcamp is gold, he was one of my very first mentors in OSS
[14:10] <nigelb> ooh, did not know :)
[14:11] <jcastro> yeah, Nautilus was mostly his fault
[14:11] <nigelb> I've noticed how much worlds collide when I'm in both comunities.
[14:11] <jcastro> feel free to tell him that
[14:11] <nigelb> haha
[14:11] <jcastro> there's a large ex-GNOMER contingent over in MoCo I noticed
[14:11] <nigelb> Yeah, lucas as well
[14:12] <nigelb> I don't know of the others because I wasn't too much into gnome
[14:12] <jcastro> nigelb: getting folks like dcamp back from OSX is one of the reasons I do what I do. :)
[14:12] <nigelb> <3
[14:12]  * nigelb notes he's on OSX
[14:12] <nigelb> that's because my adapter caught fire, but yeah.
[14:12] <jcastro> of course you are, Mozilla's a mac shop. :)
[14:12] <nigelb> haha
[14:13] <nigelb> well, this is from my day job.
[14:13] <nigelb> and I've just realized we're a mac shop as well
[14:19] <AlanBell> czajkowski: popey: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2012-March/005745.html
[14:20] <AlanBell> so from Luke's perspective Unity3d is a writeoff at this stage, which is a bit of a disappointment
[14:20] <AlanBell> especially as most of it worked in the alphas
[14:24] <popey> thanks for that AlanBell
[14:33] <jcastro> cjohnston: today is handoff day right?
[14:33] <jcastro> for summit?
[15:06] <cjohnston> jcastro: I think so, but I believe there is an issue
[15:07] <jcastro> k, I'll link up with mims when he's around
[15:07] <cjohnston> Does mhall119 think he gets to take the day off because its his birthday or something
[15:09] <jcastro> it's his birthday?
[15:09] <cjohnston> si
[15:09] <jcastro> today?
[15:09] <jcastro> mine is tomorrow. :)
[15:10] <cjohnston> thats what FB tells me
[15:10] <jcastro> the more I get to know mhall119 the more awesome he is.
[15:10] <cjohnston> shhh
[15:10] <cjohnston> he can read the logs
[15:10] <jcastro> oh dang.
[15:10] <jcastro> quick make fun of him
[15:12] <cjohnston> I was gonna get him to use fix it friday to relax since its his bday and work on summit
[15:15] <dholbach> brb
[15:22] <s-fox> mhall119,  Thanks for the comment on my blog, you raised some good questions. I replied :)
[15:52] <jono> hey all
[15:52] <jono> mhall119, so my CanoniStack instance is showing, but asking for the password again
[15:59] <jono> mhall119, jcastro, balloons, dholbach, dpm all ready?
[15:59] <dholbach> yep
[16:00] <jono> cool, firing it up
[16:00] <balloons> fire in the hole!
[16:00] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:00] <jcastro> YEP
[16:01] <jono> mic not working, rebooting
[16:01] <dholbach> weird, I got only noise
[16:01] <jono> can you send me an invite?
[16:01] <dholbach> ah ok, sure
[16:02] <dpm> ah, no wonder why I couldn't get in
[16:02] <jcastro> dholbach: close your browsers
[16:03] <jcastro> and look for the googletalk process
[16:03] <jcastro> probably hung
[16:03] <jcastro> or ZOMBIE
[16:03] <dpm> killall!!!
[16:03] <jcastro> kill it with fire, then try again
[16:03] <dholbach> or it was you sending noise all the time
[16:03] <balloons> my browser's have been acting funny too :-(
[16:04] <balloons> i think i'm going to reboot also
[16:05] <dpm> man, it's like going back to windows!
[16:05]  * dpm resists rebooting
[16:06] <jono> dholbach, jcastro can you invite to the hangout
[16:07] <jcastro> ok so I closed out to make sure it's not me
[16:07] <jcastro> jono: start a fresh one
[16:07] <jono> ok invites sent
[16:07] <jono> dpm, dholbach, balloons, jcastro, mhall119 ^^^
[16:08] <dpm> jono, we're in a hangout already, is it the same?
[16:08] <jono> ok one sec
[16:08] <cjohnston> im confused
[16:08] <cjohnston> lol
[16:12] <technoviking> morning all
[16:15] <technoviking> hey, Unity got really snappy this morning with the latest updates. No more menu drawing issues. Woot!
[16:22] <dpm> I'm free!
[16:22] <dpm> ok, rejoining
[16:28] <jono> hey dvestal :-)
[16:29] <dvestal> hey jono
[16:29] <s-fox> Hello jono , thanks for the comment on my blog post. I replied to your points :)
[16:30] <jono> thanks s-fox, will respond soon
[16:36] <cjohnston> jono: do you have 10 minutes today? IRC is fine.
[16:44] <jono> cjohnston, sure
[16:44] <jono> on a call right now
[16:44] <cjohnston> ping me when you have time :-)
[16:45] <cjohnston> i dont have much of anything happening today so I'm fairly free
[16:56] <s-fox> I am going for a run. See you all later :)
[16:56] <cjohnston> enjoy
[17:07] <jcastro> jono: meant to catch you on the end of the call but I had to move a PT session and I wanted to see what our new call schedule was
[17:07] <balloons> technoviking, glad it's working happily for you.. something killed my desktop this morning :-(
[17:07] <jono> jcastro, so it looks like we didnt finalize it
[17:07] <jcastro> I think we said "calls on friday" but didn't put it on the calendar
[17:07]  * jcastro nods
[17:07] <technoviking> balloons: ack!
[17:07] <jono> jcastro, lets do it at 9.30am Pacific every Friu
[17:08] <jcastro> jono: anyway I can go anytime before 1500 EST.
[17:08] <jcastro> ok
[17:08] <nigelb> jcastro: I talked to lorchard. He said he didn't have a chance to fix his env, for some reason juju screwed up and then he couldn't figure it out
[17:08] <jcastro> ah nuts
[17:08] <jcastro> LXC I bet
[17:09] <jono> jcastro, cal invite sent
[17:09] <jcastro> ah nuts, just sent one
[17:09] <jcastro> ignore mine
[17:10] <jcastro> since I appear to have scheduled it for saturdays
[17:10] <jcastro> sigh, what a day
[17:11] <dholbach> dpm, I didn't know you were on mixcloud too ;-)
[17:11] <dpm> dholbach, I am now ;)
[17:12] <dholbach> dpm, i think it's a really interesting way to fix the "top items will always be at the top" problem
[17:13] <dholbach> and I think there's no easily understandable way around showing different kind of lists
[17:15] <dholbach> dpm, let me know if you like the music :-P
[17:33] <jcastro> jono: oh hey, do we want to go now?
[17:34] <jono> jcastro, we already chatted this week, so I think we are good
[17:34] <jcastro> jono: most of my stuff is the same status as our talk on monday
[17:34] <jono> unless you wanted a call
[17:34] <jono> np
[17:34] <jcastro> other than hopefully Summit finishing RSN
[17:34] <jcastro> jono: nope, not unless you want to sing Somewhere in Time acapella
[17:34] <jcastro> you know it'd be awesome
[17:34] <jcastro> Marching on ...... Marching on!!!
[17:34] <cjohnston> need to go a google hangout on air for that one
[17:41] <jono> jcastro, lol
[17:42] <jono> my Twisted bug got fixed, woo!
[17:42] <jono> I am stoked
[17:42] <jono> now all the accomplishments scripts run perfectly
[17:42] <jcastro> I had an awesome bug experience too
[17:42] <jcastro> ends up Popey filed it though
[17:42] <jcastro> but didn't follow through
[17:42] <jcastro> But I HOOKED IT UP yo
[17:42] <dholbach> jono, "u1sdtool --current" still hangs for me
[17:43] <jono> dholbach, did you get the new python-twisted?
[17:43] <dholbach> let me doublecheck
[17:43] <jono> :-)
[17:44] <greg-g> jcastro: hahaha, I was subscribed to that bug since I have a x220 also :)
[17:44] <dholbach> jono, ahhhh, here we go
[17:45] <dholbach> awesome
[17:45] <jcastro> greg-g: try RC6, it's lovely
[17:45] <jono> :-)
[17:45] <greg-g> jcastro: not on precise with the x220 yet ;)
[17:45] <greg-g> I know I know
[17:45] <jcastro> oh ok
[17:45] <jcastro> no worries man
[17:45] <jcastro> greg-g: it's not like you filed a bug and abandoned it
[17:46]  * jcastro eyes popey
[17:46] <greg-g> lol
[17:46] <jcastro> :)
[17:46] <jcastro> it was a hard one though
[17:46] <jcastro> all the attention was going to jono's wireless bug, which was like most people
[17:46] <jcastro> so when that got fixed I was like "oh ok, done."
[17:46] <jcastro> but this one was sneaky, it was kind of not obvious
[17:47]  * popey glares at jcastro 
[17:47] <jcastro> cjohnston: ping
[17:50] <cjohnston> pong
[17:51] <cjohnston> whats up jcastro
[17:52] <jcastro> hey you don't have access to the machine summit runs on right?
[17:52] <jcastro> cjohnston: m_3 has questions about the dev environment he needs answered
[17:52] <jcastro> almost done though!
[17:59] <jcastro> m_3: ok he's here
[18:01] <m_3> jcastro: thanks
[18:03] <technoviking> jcastro: tiaz ping me and they are going to upgrade to 4.x on staging
[18:03] <jcastro> \o/
[18:17] <jcastro> <-- lunch
[18:17] <pleia2> technoviking: fingers crossed! :)
[18:22] <dholbach> alright my friends - over here it's time to have dinner and kick off the weekend - have a good one yourself and see you soon! :)
[18:23] <jono> dholbach, have fun!
[18:23] <popey> o/
[18:23] <pleia2> have a nice weekend dholbach :)
[18:23] <dholbach> you too :)
[18:32] <technoviking> pleia2: thanks
[18:46] <balloons> does anyone know why all the bugs I report are being marked as private? I suspect it's perhaps something I did, or apport is doing it since it's uploading potentially sensitive data when it crashes
[18:47] <AlanBell> the latter
[18:47] <AlanBell> if it includes a memory dump that could include in-memory passwords
[18:47] <nigelb> balloons: it will be made public automatically
[18:47] <nigelb> once apport does the retrcacing
[18:47] <AlanBell> these get removed and made public
[18:47] <balloons> ahh
[18:48] <balloons> yes, it has to retrace
[18:48] <balloons> neat
[18:48] <balloons> thanks :-)
[18:48] <jcastro> lately I don't even get to that
[18:48] <jcastro> the dupe detection catches it
[18:48] <jcastro> woo
[18:48] <balloons> lol.. yea.. I'm original jcastro
[18:48] <balloons> my bugs are unique
[18:50] <akgraner> grrr - now is the time in the cycle when my machine starts over heating  - kernel testing time - anyone else having over heating issues?
[18:54] <hggdh> yo, who takes care of UWN?
[18:54] <pleia2> hggdh: probably me
[18:55] <pleia2> the team is in #ubuntu-news
[18:55] <hggdh> pleia2: popping in there, then
[19:00] <Amoz> jcastro: oh hai there
[19:01] <jcastro> hi
[19:01] <Amoz> jcastro: remember me?
[19:01] <jcastro> not offhand I'm afraid
[19:01] <Amoz> I asked a couple of days ago if there's anything to do here :)
[19:01] <Amoz> holbach sent me here
[19:01] <Amoz> I'm looking for something webbyish to work on
[19:02] <jcastro> oh you were looking for the web team
[19:02] <jcastro> Amoz: know any django?
[19:02] <Amoz> jcastro: sorry, I can't help you with the accomplishment project
[19:02] <Amoz> not good enough
[19:02] <jcastro> heh ok
[19:02] <Amoz> but I looked at Django
[19:02] <Amoz> and I'm willing to learn
[19:02] <jcastro> what do you have in mind?
[19:03] <Amoz> well, I'm sort of open to everything
[19:03] <Amoz> but it'd take some time before I could actually do effective dev with Django
[19:03] <jcastro> what are you familiar with?
[19:04] <Amoz> well, HTML/CSS, PHP, MySQL, learning a little jQuery
[19:04] <Amoz> in the web field that is
[19:04] <Amoz> know some python, Java, C etc.
[19:05] <jcastro> ok
[19:05] <jcastro> let me find some web team resources
[19:05] <jcastro> it should point you in the right direction
[19:05] <Amoz> cool, thank you
[19:07] <jcastro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/community-web-projects
[19:07] <jcastro> aha!
[19:07] <jcastro> hey so join that list
[19:07] <jcastro> introduce yourself, explain what you know and what you are interested in working on
[19:07] <Amoz> sounds scary
[19:07] <nigelb> there's like 4 people on the list :P
[19:07] <cjohnston> Amoz: we need django help with Summit and LTP... a great place to start learning
[19:07] <nigelb> it
[19:07] <cjohnston> nigelb: shush
[19:07] <nigelb> s not scary at all :)
[19:08] <M0hi> lol
[19:08] <jcastro> do you guys have an IRC channel for the webteam?
[19:08] <Amoz> well thank you, that's comforting
[19:08] <nigelb> -website
[19:08] <nigelb> I mean #ubuntu-website
[19:08] <Amoz> we can continue the discussion there then
[19:10] <jcastro> woo!
[19:10] <jcastro> cjohnston: m_3: did you guys get sorted?
[19:10] <cjohnston> jcastro: no..
[19:10] <cjohnston> its having issues that we need mhall119's help on
[19:12] <m_3> jcastro: we made progress though... it looks like we're still missing some production config info
[19:13] <jcastro> ok
[19:13] <jcastro> m_3: can you summarize this in an email to the LF folks?
[19:13] <m_3> jcastro: and then the setup itself for linux plumbers
[19:13] <jcastro> so basically we're done, we're just missing like a few config setup stuff?
[19:13] <m_3> who's gonna be running it on their end?
[19:13] <jcastro> the person on the other end of the email thread
[19:14] <m_3> jcastro: yeah, django's coming up and talking to the db and memcache... we just gotta configure it properly
[19:14] <jcastro> m_3: you're CCed on the original mail right?
[19:14] <m_3> and it looks like mhall's the one to talk to about that
[19:14] <m_3> yup
[19:14] <m_3> what acct are we going to be hosting this under?
[19:16] <m_3> jcastro: do I need to set up something special or will I need to walk somebody through setup on their own account?
[19:22] <bkerensa> Good Morning Everyone
[19:30] <greg-g> barely
[19:32] <bkerensa> greg-g: well I kind of cheated because it is 11:32 and I just now woke :P
[19:35] <greg-g> I've been up since 5:30 (I have a 3 mo old :) )
[19:35] <bkerensa> greg-g: at least you have a reason to justify staying up late... my excuse is usually along the lines of insomnia and having to finish work on a patch to submit :D
[19:44] <greg-g> oh, I don't stay up late. I'm in bed (holding Rowan) at around 8pm. I am up at midnight, 2am, 3am, etc though :) just not straight through
[20:36] <pleia2> welcome lfaraone :)
[20:36] <lfaraone> hi there. ping, jono.
[20:37] <lfaraone> Basically, dholbach put out a call for people-who-aren't-him to do GSoC a while back.
[20:37] <jono> lfaraone, we are already chatting :-)
[20:37] <lfaraone> hah okay.
[20:37] <pleia2> jono: I've been talking to lfaraone too, wanted to bring everyone together
[20:37] <jono> oh I see
[20:37]  * jono was confused :-)
[20:38] <lfaraone> jono: right, I had pinged you, then chatted with pleia2, and then you replied
[20:38] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-February/034716.html is dholbach's announcement that bkerensa and lfaraone followed up with to handle administration
[20:39] <jono> so the last I discussed this with dholbach, I clarified that Canonical will not be pursuing GSoC
[20:39] <jono> but of course the community are welcome to
[20:39] <jono> I discussed with the engineering managers about their staff participation and they preferred not to
[20:39] <pleia2> lfaraone: do you know what is involved regarding funds?
[20:40] <pleia2> as a CC member I fully support the community taking this on, and we'll help as needed
[20:41] <lfaraone> pleia2: some organisation needs to accept payment, meaing needs to have the information on https://services.google.com/inquiry/supplier_enroll
[20:41] <lfaraone> so some sort of corporation. in our case, would the Ubuntu Foundation suffice?
[20:41] <pleia2> jono: can Canonical spend the resources in just handling the funding side if the community handles the rest?
[20:42] <jono> pleia2, I would need to check with Michelle
[20:42] <pleia2> I don't know who handles control of the Ubuntu Foundation, or if it would be appropriate
[20:42] <jono> it would be her call
[20:42] <jono> she handles the admin of Ubuntu related project such as this
[20:42] <jono> I only checked to see if the engineering managers would commit their staff
[20:42] <jono> pleia2, I will check with Michelle to see what she says
[20:42] <pleia2> jono: thank you :)
[20:43] <jono> (she may also need to check with her manager, Rick)
[20:43] <lfaraone> jono: please let me know ASAP; this is due by 23:00 UTC
[20:43] <pleia2> oh dear
[20:43] <jono> lfaraone, it won't be until Monday, she is in England
[20:44] <jono> this looks like it is all a bit last minute
[20:44] <pleia2> it was handled poorly, dholbach emailed back in february and in spite of interest it was never clear who was planning on being in control of this
[20:44] <jono> agreed
[20:45] <jono> dholbach raised it with me, I checked with the managers, and confirmed Canonical would not be committing to it, but not sure what has happened since then
[20:45] <lfaraone> jono: well, I wasn't aware that there was an agreement the *mentoring org* had to agree to, not just the *mentoring admin*
[20:45] <jono> lfaraone, I am not sure what is involve tbh
[20:45] <lfaraone> jono: I was told earlier this week to to ahead with it, but wasn't clear I can agree to the terms.
[20:45] <jono> I haven't really been in the loop on this
[20:45] <jono> lfaraone, understoof
[20:45] <jono> lfaraone, understood
[20:46] <lfaraone> the agreement is (rather poorly formatted) at http://paste.ubuntu.com/876562/
[20:46] <jono> sorry, I have to run to the dentist, will be back in a bit
[20:47] <jono> I am happy to mail Michelle if you want me to
[20:47] <jono> but not sure if it will be too late
[20:47] <pleia2> lfaraone: can you email  p2phelp@google.com to ask for an extension due to funding confusion?
[20:47] <pleia2> jono: that'd be great, maybe we can get this in
[20:48] <jono> pleia2, worth trying :-)
[20:48] <jono> back soon
[20:50] <bkerensa> lfaraone: :) sorry I missed part of this convo
[20:50] <bkerensa> :P
[20:52] <bkerensa> pleia2: I think mentoring is a great thing in fact I just blogged about the importance of open source mentoring in academia today
[20:52] <lfaraone> jono, pleia2, I asked around, and was told "it will probably not help to ask for an extension"
[20:53] <pleia2> lfaraone: oh dear :(
[20:55] <bkerensa> lfaraone: have you asked carols by chance?
[20:55] <lfaraone> bkerensa: sent her a mail.
[20:55] <lfaraone> pleia2: p2phelp isn't approprete for this mail; they get involved really late in the process. I just mailed the person in charge of GSoC
[20:56] <pleia2> lfaraone: gotcha, I was just looking at the address on the page :) thanks for sending that
[20:56] <bkerensa> carols is one of Google's Open Source Manager folks so she might be able to help
[20:56] <bkerensa> I met her last year at oscon
[20:57] <lfaraone> bkerensa: yes, ISTR she runs GSoC
[20:59] <bkerensa> This is why a fully functioning Ubuntu Foundation would be nice
[21:00] <pleia2> yeah, I thought this was all being handled, when I asked about it I was pointed at dholbach's thread, otherwise I would have paid more attention
[21:00] <pleia2> it was terribly disappointing that we weren't involved last year, I got a lot of questions about it
[21:00] <lfaraone> pleia2: I'm sorry that I didn't discover this earlier.
[21:00] <bkerensa> pleia2: I'm surprised dholbach pushed it so hard if Canonical did not want to be involved
[21:00] <bkerensa> =/
[21:01] <lfaraone> I wans't aware that Canonical had decided not to do GSoC; I know that dholbach said he didn't have enough time for it.
[21:01] <bkerensa> yeah he made no mention of a lack of support from Canonical
[21:01] <pleia2> yeah, this is all very odd
[21:01] <bkerensa> Unfortunately I'm unsure if he will be on tonight at all since it is Friday
[21:02] <pleia2> nah, he's left for the evening
[21:02] <lfaraone> well, I emailed him about it.
[21:19] <greg-g> :(
[21:20] <greg-g> no other real comment. just sad there won't be any Ubuntu-specific GSOC projects again
[21:27] <jcastro> Daviey, hey so the hosted Alice IRC just blew up.
[21:27] <jcastro> I want to move to canonistack as soon as I can so ping me the minute he releases. :)
[21:30] <balloons> jcastro, hosted Alice IRC?
[21:32] <jcastro> usealice.org
[21:32] <jcastro> I've been working on the charm but waiting for an upstream release for it to be totally awesome
[21:32] <Daviey> jcastro: it's released.. some time ago !
[21:33] <Daviey> jcastro: the issue is that a new upstream deb version is a PITA, as they switched core library, which isn't yet packaged
[21:33] <Daviey> not had time to package the new dep yet ;(
[21:37] <jcastro> ah nuts!
[21:38] <jcastro> https://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway
[21:38] <jcastro> have you seen this one?
[21:38] <jcastro> bkerensa is convincing them to hook us up with charms
[21:39] <jcastro> and since it uses mongo we will be webscale!
[21:39] <Daviey> jcastro: ddue, you replied to my mail where i mentioned it :)
[21:40] <cjohnston> jcastro wants a 5 dollar foot long charm?
[21:41] <jcastro> Daviey, ok sorry, I get discombobulated when it comes to IRC  web clients.
[21:41] <Daviey> heh
[21:41] <jcastro> he was like "the drive died on the machine"
[21:41] <jcastro> I'm like bro, put this on AWS
[21:42] <jcastro> I envision a server sitting precariously on a chair or something, similar to the etherpad/Daviey set up
[21:49] <balloons> hehe.. servers on chairs
[21:49] <balloons> so gud!
[21:55] <lfaraone> pleia2 et al: I mean, in the past unincorporated projects can apply to GSoC. So if you want to make "The Ubuntu Community Council" running the project, that works I guess.
[21:59] <bkerensa> lfaraone: but how would funding be handles I noticed the link requested bank account info and tax id's?
[21:59] <lfaraone> bkerensa: in the past, that's handled very late in the game, like in June. s
[22:00] <lfaraone> so we'd have time to figure that out.
[22:00] <pleia2> ok, sent off big email about it to the CC and a few of you
[22:00] <lfaraone> Students are paid directly by Google.
[22:00] <lfaraone> The tax stuff is about the $500 / project "mentor stipend".
[22:00] <pleia2> also, argh, UDS registration didn't open today? I sent off like half a dozen emails to people asking me about it and told them it would be today
[22:00]  * pleia2 is now getting annoyed replies
[22:01] <pleia2> I am not having a very good day :)
[22:02] <lfaraone> pleia2: :(
[22:16] <JanC> bkerensa: I'm pretty sure the French and/or German locoteam have tax IDs...   ;)
[22:16] <JanC> and even the Belgian locoteam has a bank account
[22:17] <JanC> (and unlike the French & German teams, we are not incorporated)
[22:33] <bkerensa> jcastro: you around?
[22:33] <bkerensa> or mhall119 even