| desrt | does anyone know how i request a retrace? | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | It happens automatically. | 00:11 |
| desrt | hum | 00:11 |
| TheMuso | If the bug is tagged | 00:11 |
| desrt | oh. this bug only came 42 minutes ago | 00:11 |
| desrt | that's probably why | 00:11 |
| TheMuso | need-$arch-retrace | 00:11 |
| RAOF | (Or, strictly speaking, the tags needs-amd64-retrace or needs-i386-retrace) | 00:11 |
| TheMuso | gah needs is correct | 00:12 |
| desrt | ya. it is so tagged | 00:12 |
| desrt | i didn't realise the bug was just filed moments ago | 00:12 |
| * desrt curses the french | 00:14 | |
| desrt | their damn cheese is so freaking good | 00:15 |
| desrt | brie in canada is twice as expensive and half as good | 00:15 |
| broder | i have a sort of embedded system which i'm trying to upgrade to oneiric, and i'm having problems with lightdm. when it runs as part of the standard boot, lightdm-session returns 1. if i look at .xsession-errors, all of the scripts are complaining that they can't open display :0 | 00:58 |
| broder | anybody have thoughts for where i could look for what i screwed up? | 00:58 |
| broder | i've done plenty of terrible things to the setup on this environment, so whatever it is is probably my fault, but i'm not sure where to look | 00:59 |
| broder | also, it starts fine if i try again once my getty comes up | 01:02 |
| RAOF | That sounds like *so much fun* | 01:08 |
| broder | yeah, and that combined with the fact i'm using casper means i have to do a full rebuild to do any experimentation :-/ | 01:10 |
| broder | hmm, how well tested is lightdm without accountservice? | 01:11 |
| RAOF | No idea, although obviously robert_ancell would be able to tell you that :) | 01:12 |
| RAOF | What environment do the unittests run in? | 01:12 |
| broder | well, there are a bunch of tests that don't have the accountservice | 01:13 |
| broder | (you can tell because they have names like test-language-no-accounts-service :-P) | 01:14 |
| robert_ancell | broder, the oneiric version is probably not as well tested as the precise version, can you pastebin the lightdm.log? | 01:18 |
| broder | robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875441/ | 01:21 |
| broder | i don't have a greeter installed, but i'm always expecting autologin to work | 01:21 |
| broder | i set xserver-command=X -logverbose 0 in an attempt to get something out of the X log, which didn't seem to work | 01:22 |
| broder | http://paste.ubuntu.com/875442/ is the lightdm.conf | 01:22 |
| robert_ancell | broder, as a sanity check I take it /usr/bin/lightdm-session and /usr/bin/gnome-session exist and are executable? | 01:24 |
| robert_ancell | (often a cause of returning 1 on exec) | 01:24 |
| robert_ancell | It seems quite happy to work without Accounst Service - [+1.72s] DEBUG: org.freedesktop.Accounts does not exist, falling back to passwd file | 01:25 |
| broder | robert_ancell: yes. lightdm-session is definitely running and leaving this in .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875444/ | 01:25 |
| robert_ancell | ah, ** (gnome-session:1447): WARNING **: Cannot open display: | 01:25 |
| broder | err, i should probably note that even though it says gnome-session --session=ubuntu, i'm replacing the ubuntu session with my own session spec | 01:25 |
| robert_ancell | looks like a xauthority issue | 01:25 |
| broder | hmm...well, i do have an .Xauthority file, but it's 0-length | 01:26 |
| broder | but i guess that could be the result of lightdm's cleanup | 01:26 |
| robert_ancell | yes, it removes the entry on exit | 01:26 |
| robert_ancell | makes testing a pain :) | 01:26 |
| broder | hmm, let me see if i can add something to /etc/X11/Xsession.d to cat the xauthority file | 01:27 |
| robert_ancell | also check that $XAUTHORITY is set correctly | 01:28 |
| RAOF | Is xauthority owned by root or something? That broke me for a while. | 01:28 |
| broder | no, owned by my user | 01:28 |
| broder | there's stuff in the .Xauthority file, and $XAUTHORITY is set | 01:29 |
| broder | but i think my hostname in this particular case is localhost because it's not set yet - is that a problem? | 01:29 |
| broder | ("localhost" showed up in the .Xauthority file) | 01:29 |
| robert_ancell | broder, btw you can run 'xauth list' which gives a readable form of the file | 01:29 |
| broder | ah, ok. i'll try that | 01:29 |
| broder | huh, xauth list printed nothing | 01:31 |
| robert_ancell | what was $XAUTHORITY set to? | 01:32 |
| broder | /home/mokafive/.Xauthority | 01:32 |
| robert_ancell | very odd. Permissions on that file? | 01:33 |
| broder | 600 | 01:34 |
| broder | oh, uh. huh. i actually don't seem to have xauth installed | 01:34 |
| robert_ancell | broder, can you try [LightDM] user-authority-in-system-dir=true | 01:34 |
| broder | do i need to have a /usr/bin/xauth if i'm not doing debugging stuff? | 01:35 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, i figured out the scrolling problem, which is turning out to be really nasty to work around | 01:35 |
| kenvandine | the gtk changes for GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK | 01:36 |
| kenvandine | widgets no longer get scroll-event for GDK_SCROLL_MASK by default, so you have to explicitly add them | 01:36 |
| robert_ancell | broder, I don't think so | 01:36 |
| kenvandine | and gwibber uses a Gtk.Box with Gtk.EventBoxes on top | 01:36 |
| kenvandine | i have a patch for gtk to add GDK_SCROLL_MASK for GdkEventBox | 01:37 |
| kenvandine | but that only partly fixes it... in the eventboxes, i add more boxes and labels | 01:37 |
| kenvandine | which don't get the scroll-event either | 01:37 |
| RAOF | Sounds like fun. | 01:37 |
| broder | robert_ancell: no difference | 01:37 |
| kenvandine | so with fixing GtkEventBox, you get really hit or miss scrolling | 01:38 |
| kenvandine | if your cursor is on top of a label, it doesn't scroll | 01:38 |
| kenvandine | i really wonder why it was necessary to remove GDK_SCROLL_MASK by default | 01:39 |
| kenvandine | i suspect this is going to have lots of random side effects all over the place | 01:39 |
| broder | robert_ancell, RAOF: there's also nothing in the Xorg log, which seems suspicious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875455 | 01:41 |
| RAOF | Yeah, that is suspicious. | 01:41 |
| robert_ancell | broder, interesting though that the daemon was happy with the connection ([+3.02s] DEBUG: Connecting to XServer :0) using xcb | 01:42 |
| robert_ancell | broder, is $DISPLAY set correctly? | 01:42 |
| broder | robert_ancell: the .xsession-errors says it's trying to connect to :0 | 01:42 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, what's a good example program to connect to the X server and run through strace or similar to check what's actually failing on the connection? | 01:43 |
| broder | ah, crud. i have to run afk for the next several hours. i can try to do more testing later tonight | 01:43 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 01:44 |
| robert_ancell | 'No protocol specified' is actually an Xlib error if I remember correctly, but xlib is really bad at reporting what actually failed | 01:44 |
| robert_ancell | how weird, my session just exited with return value 134. broder's problems are contagious | 01:47 |
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| desrt | jbicha: hi | 03:57 |
| jbicha | desrt: good evening! | 03:58 |
| desrt | jbicha: i have a 100% reliable gnome-shell crasher out of the gnome3 ppa. | 03:58 |
| desrt | want to check it? | 03:58 |
| jbicha | 100%? ok | 03:58 |
| desrt | open lg and click the chooser | 03:58 |
| desrt | then move the mouse over an open window | 03:59 |
| desrt | *boom* | 03:59 |
| * cnd cowers in fear | 03:59 | |
| jbicha | desrt: it was more a silent boom :( | 04:00 |
| desrt | jbicha: i don't get it on my f17 box | 04:00 |
| desrt | but it's a version behind, at 3.3.5 now | 04:01 |
| desrt | gonna upgrade to see if it's an upstream or ubuntu issue | 04:01 |
| jbicha | yeah, those fedora guys take forever to package stuff, what kind of bleeding edge distro do they think they are? lol | 04:01 |
| desrt | it's already packaged | 04:02 |
| desrt | i just haven't upgraded in a while | 04:02 |
| desrt | it's my tablet. i don't touch it much :p | 04:02 |
| jbicha | oh, I guess I need to find something else to be snarky at | 04:02 |
| jbicha | that crash is kinda neat though :) | 04:04 |
| desrt | yes. i love when my window/compositing manager crashes. very neat! | 04:05 |
| desrt | what's so interesting about it? :p | 04:05 |
| jbicha | the first time I did something different and it just hung with a small rectangle in the center of my screen, not sure how that happened | 04:05 |
| jbicha | well I don't use the lg, what's it there for? to make my desktop more like a web browser? | 04:07 |
| * jbicha looks around for the View Source button | 04:07 | |
| desrt | the lg is pretty insanely cool | 04:07 |
| desrt | and the chooser makes it even more useful | 04:07 |
| jbicha | lg is far above my level | 04:11 |
| desrt | hum | 04:16 |
| desrt | looks like seb never got around to that experimental gnome-settings-daemon upload | 04:16 |
| jbicha | which one? | 04:17 |
| desrt | jbicha: the one that lets you replace the value of arbitrary xsettings using a gsettings key | 04:35 |
| desrt | jbicha: so f17 with the same upstream gnome-shell version as the gnome3 ppa => no crash | 04:37 |
| jbicha | desrt: we don't really patch gnome-shell, gjs, mutter so I don't know | 04:41 |
| stgraber | pitti: would be great if you could have a look at bug 950087 | 04:41 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 950087 in libxklavier "python2.7 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv() when using gi binding for xklavier (gir1.2-xkl-1.0)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950087 | 04:41 |
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| BigWhale | Good Morning. | 05:45 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:46 |
| pitti | stgraber: yep, will do today | 05:46 |
| pitti | dobey: still here? | 05:55 |
| pitti | dobey: ah, found the rb MP; seems rb-ubuntuone was uploaded prematurely, it's not installable right now | 05:57 |
| pitti | dobey: ok, one failing-to-build upgrade of bzr-builddeb lalter, it now actually merges your branch | 06:08 |
| pitti | pre-applied patches, would you please just die! | 06:08 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: seems LibO stopped building some packages on armhf? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html | 06:28 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:28 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti | 06:29 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 06:29 |
| pitti | stgraber: responded in the bug, needs to be fixed in ubiquity | 06:43 |
| didrocks | ok, so latest compiz fixes regressed somehow the tap detection… again :( | 06:46 |
| didrocks | endless story | 06:46 |
| didrocks | and latest nux fix regressed again ^o | 06:47 |
| * didrocks *sigh*, I don't smell an unity release today | 06:47 | |
| * didrocks takes all his changes in a nux branch which is left around from some weeks already and nobody reviewed | 06:49 | |
| RAOF | didrocks: But at least <super><space> brings up Do again :) | 06:52 |
| RAOF | Ah, stupid git. Why can't you apply a stash to my unclean tree. | 06:57 |
| didrocks | RAOF: well, for how long, I heard about that key to bring up the hud :) | 06:59 |
| didrocks | RAOF: so, just a piece of advice, enjoy for now! :) | 06:59 |
| RAOF | Unity's going to claim *my* keybinding? NEVER! | 07:00 |
| didrocks | :) | 07:01 |
| RAOF | didrocks: I take it that MIRs for gtest et al aren't likely to be done before the weekend? | 07:18 |
| didrocks | RAOF: well, with all this unity noise, not sure. gtest is doable I guess, but I have opened questions | 07:19 |
| didrocks | the other xorg-gtests need mterry to be around | 07:19 |
| didrocks | as I NEWed it in universe | 07:19 |
| didrocks | RAOF: for gtest, did you see my uploads? | 07:19 |
| RAOF | I saw one, not the other. | 07:19 |
| didrocks | (that take us some time as making the test build failing, and so the merging rejected for unity) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | RAOF: well, tere were two, but the idea is that we need to include a makefile to be able to rebuild the upstream source | 07:20 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I did it quickly for cmake, but I'm sure there is a better way to do it | 07:20 |
| RAOF | Ah, cmake file. I didn't notice that, because I was following the google FAQ for how to build it. | 07:20 |
| didrocks | and same for Makefile.am? | 07:20 |
| didrocks | ah, there is a FAQ? | 07:21 |
| RAOF | We could certainly distribute a m4 snippet. | 07:21 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:21 |
| didrocks | and something for cmake (maybe a README in the package?) | 07:21 |
| RAOF | Yeah; the FAQ basically says “Add gtest-all.cc to your makefile” | 07:21 |
| RAOF | README.Debian points at the upstream faq. | 07:21 |
| didrocks | but how do you detect the location of gtest-all.cc? | 07:22 |
| didrocks | hardcoded? | 07:22 |
| RAOF | Indeed. | 07:22 |
| RAOF | It wouldn't be a terrible idea to add an m4 macro + a pkg-config file (so we can do nice things like check the version). | 07:22 |
| didrocks | RAOF: agreed | 07:22 |
| didrocks | RAOF: volonteering? :) | 07:22 |
| RAOF | Ok, I guess. | 07:22 |
| RAOF | :P | 07:22 |
| didrocks | RAOF: you can remove the CMakeFile then I guess if there is the pkg-config one | 07:23 |
| RAOF | Well, you won't be able to PKG_CHECK_MODULES, so it might still be useful to have a CMakeFile. | 07:23 |
| didrocks | hum | 07:25 |
| didrocks | indeed | 07:25 |
| didrocks | but putting the cmake file in the cmake directory | 07:25 |
| didrocks | (so generate it with the prefix path) | 07:26 |
| RAOF | Anyway, I'll upload the fixed Xserver without the tests enabled now, and we can enable the tests once gtest is all done. | 07:35 |
| didrocks | RAOF: sounds fine | 07:37 |
| mvo | pitti: thanks for your aptdaemon review from the other day! do you mind if I do a upload today of the current bzr? | 07:57 |
| didrocks | each time I have a Xorg crash (every 1.5 days), I loose 15 minutes :/ | 08:04 |
| RAOF | This server will probably help. | 08:05 |
| didrocks | RAOF: you think so? I'm experiencing this kind of crash since Oneiric (the one I talked about at UDS and at the rally) | 08:07 |
| didrocks | it's the "when there is too many writings on disk" | 08:07 |
| RAOF | Ah, right. No, this won't help that. | 08:07 |
| didrocks | loosing builds are not fun :( | 08:07 |
| RAOF | Or, if you'd like it, I can say that it'll totally help. | 08:08 |
| didrocks | RAOF: just to make me happy for the week-end? And then, totally desperated again? ;) | 08:09 |
| RAOF | Indeed! | 08:11 |
| pitti | mvo: aptdaemon upload> no objection | 08:29 |
| mvo | ta, uploaded | 08:30 |
| didrocks | and a 5th attempt to try to fix alt tap detection on compiz, let's see how it goes :) | 08:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: got used to run large builds in screen? | 08:45 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, and replying/retweaking patches as well as we are really diverging from trunk | 08:46 |
| didrocks | and ABI break each times, so rebuilding everything | 08:46 |
| didrocks | a lot of fun :) | 08:47 |
| didrocks | pitti: but I still bless the ccache tricks :) | 08:49 |
| pitti | yeah, that should help quite a bit | 08:49 |
| pitti | it's even more effective for C++ (since g++ is just sloooow), but still helps for C | 08:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, I notice it quite clearly on compiz/nux/unity :) | 08:50 |
| didrocks | and as it can work with pbuilder too, it's awesome! | 08:50 |
| * pitti raises fist about http://www.horaoficial.cl/cambio.htm and races to update tzdata everywhere | 08:53 | |
| pitti | that's a change that becomes effective 11 days after the announcement | 08:53 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ahh indeed, some fly-by changes merged from rene. will fix | 08:55 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: good morning | 08:55 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: how's your cold today? | 08:55 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: better | 08:55 |
| Sweetshark | well, its worse. I am better. | 08:55 |
| pitti | heh, good to hear | 08:55 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: /me builds in a pbuilder with ccache running from a jenkins ... | 08:56 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: ^5s :) | 08:56 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: well, I get that build down to ~2h on my notebook | 08:57 |
| Sweetshark | :/ | 08:57 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:58 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, how are you? | 09:00 |
| * pitti shakes fist at seb128 | 09:00 | |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm great, thanks! | 09:00 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: but busy with tzdata updates, release reports, etc.; need more time to fix 3 bugs! | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, ahah, I'm ahead again? ;-) | 09:00 |
| pitti | yeah, you got almost 10 yesterday | 09:00 |
| seb128 | now I just need to find some unity bugs so didrocks keeps stalling a bit longer! | 09:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut | 09:00 |
| didrocks | it's really time to release unity, those guys are catching up | 09:01 |
| didrocks | not good :) | 09:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, don't worry, people find regressions before you :) | 09:01 |
| didrocks | (or rather *I* find regressions :p) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yet another one? | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: the more bugs you find, the more didrocks will get on his fixed list | 09:01 |
| pitti | I for one yearn for a new unity | 09:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah | 09:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: tapping issue back | 09:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: fix building… | 09:02 |
| pitti | the launcher AND hud constantly opening without me wanting them is a bit unnerving | 09:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: needing to try as well the nux jay's fix, but ABI break without a branch proposal for unity rebuildd | 09:02 |
| didrocks | so doing | 09:02 |
| pitti | and what's worse, HUD opens on top of fullscreen applications | 09:02 |
| seb128 | that's not wanted? | 09:03 |
| pitti | nothing worse than having a HUD window on top of TIE fighter, which makes you miss that A-wing you were hunting down | 09:03 |
| seb128 | I would assume it needs to be able to keyboard control those? | 09:03 |
| didrocks | pitti: launcher and hud opening -> that's the tapping detection | 09:03 |
| pitti | seb128: nah, I'm just trolling | 09:03 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:03 |
| didrocks | you know, the thing that got 5 fixes :p | 09:03 |
| pitti | seb128: but HUD opening on Ctrl+Alt or alt+someother key or you looking the wrong way is bad | 09:03 |
| seb128 | indeed | 09:04 |
| pitti | I keep getting it when switching workspaces or terminal tabs | 09:04 |
| didrocks | well, that's should be fixed when we can release | 09:04 |
| didrocks | that's one of the two things we are fighting for a week | 09:05 |
| seb128 | \o/ slangasek fixed that gconf bug | 09:05 |
| didrocks | ok, found one more bug, but shoudln't be a new one | 09:06 |
| mitya57 | hey, can anybody please triage & raise importance of bug 885730? | 09:09 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 885730 in gnome-settings-daemon "keyboard layout indicator reacts incorrectly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/885730 | 09:09 |
| mitya57 | from comments: "I survived Unity migration, but not this "tiny" bug" | 09:09 |
| mitya57 | :) | 09:09 |
| seb128 | hey mitya57 | 09:09 |
| mitya57 | hey | 09:09 |
| seb128 | mitya57, right, we have trolls on random bugs | 09:09 |
| mitya57 | considering that one, I'm personally annoyed by it | 09:09 |
| seb128 | charles from dx said he would look at it IIRC | 09:10 |
| mitya57 | ok, thanks | 09:10 |
| mvo | seb128: hey, aptdaemon is uploaded, so the restart required bit from my branch should work now (just fyi) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, I noticed the upload, I will try that in a bit, thanks a lot! | 09:19 |
| mvo | anyone where with a nouveau driver? I would love to get the output of /usr/share/pyshared/debtagshw/opengl.py from precise | 09:19 |
| mvo | seb128: yw | 09:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, is there a way to emulate an upgrade that needs a restart? | 09:19 |
| mvo | seb128: do you happen to use the nouveau driver ;) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, would downgrading and reupgrading a deb which set the flag be enough? | 09:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, intel only for me for years | 09:19 |
| micahg | mvo: I've got one | 09:20 |
| seb128 | well one ati on my old desktop | 09:20 |
| mvo | seb128: you could reinstall a kernel, you can also probably just run "sudo touch /var/run/reboot-required" | 09:20 |
| mvo | micahg: could you run the above python command for me please so that I can get the render/vendor/version that nouveau is using? that would rock :) | 09:21 |
| micahg | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875795/ | 09:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks | 09:21 |
| mvo | micahg: thanks, much appreciated! | 09:21 |
| micahg | mvo: yw | 09:21 |
| mvo | the final missing bit in the video driver detection :) | 09:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want me to look at this gvfs bug? | 09:37 |
| pitti | seb128: you mean bug 899858 ? | 09:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 899858 in oem-priority/precise "regression in gvfs to connect/browse using obex" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899858 | 09:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 09:37 |
| pitti | if you have some time, that'd be appreciated | 09:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, adding to my list, I've some idea about it | 09:38 |
| pitti | seb128: unfortunately android devices don't seem to do obex file transfer, so it's not easy to test here | 09:38 |
| pitti | my old Nokia could, but I gave that away | 09:38 |
| seb128 | I can test with my samsung | 09:38 |
| pitti | well, perhaps there's an app for it | 09:38 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, that's not android? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, I've a semi smart bada phone | 09:39 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:57 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson | 09:58 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 09:58 |
| * micahg glares at the rhythmbox-mozilla package and wonders if it's NPAPI and why it recommends epiphany :) | 09:58 | |
| pitti | dobey: ^ | 09:59 |
| pitti | Recommends: firefox | epiphany-browser | www-browser | 10:01 |
| pitti | micahg: ^ seems alright? | 10:01 |
| micahg | pitti: description says xulrunner based browsers which epiphany has not been in Ubuntu since karmic | 10:01 |
| micahg | so either it's NPAPI and should work in all browsers or it needs to be dropped | 10:02 |
| chrisccoulson | it's fine, the descriptions is just out of date. it's not that difficult to check ;) | 10:02 |
| chrisccoulson | if it's still in the archive, then it's ok | 10:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: this is a new package | 10:03 |
| micahg | pitti: looks Mozilla specific, do we need this? | 10:05 |
| pitti | micahg: we can certainly drop the epiphany recommends | 10:05 |
| micahg | pitti: no, I meant the plugin | 10:05 |
| chrisccoulson | it isn't mozilla specific at all | 10:05 |
| chrisccoulson | it's the same plugin that we've had in the archive for years, just in a separate package now | 10:05 |
| pitti | micahg: I'm not sure; deferring to dobey | 10:05 |
| pitti | but I think it just got split out | 10:06 |
| chrisccoulson | we don't need to do anything with it, it's fine | 10:06 |
| * micahg defers to chrisccoulson and will file a bug for the description | 10:06 | |
| chrisccoulson | how did you come to the conclusion that it's mozilla specific? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, dobey: btw why adding all those new binaries to rb? | 10:07 |
| ricotz | dobey, hi :), where is this rhythmbox tarball coming from? cant find it anywhere and there is no 2.95.5 tag | 10:07 |
| seb128 | did we really need to ship magnitude etc in their own binaries? | 10:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, that would be my next question ;) | 10:07 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: grepping for mozilla in the source, but now I realize that I was just looking at an alias and it's just referencing NPAPI stuff :-/ | 10:07 |
| xclaesse | seb128, do you know if someone is working to package latest empathy (+farstream and tp-farstream) in ubuntu precise? | 10:08 |
| pitti | seb128: I think it was to make it easier to remove them | 10:08 |
| seb128 | dobey, pitti: I hate adding such divergence over Debian | 10:08 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I mentioned it in the FFE | 10:08 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, kenvandine is, it's in the ubuntu-desktop ppa | 10:08 |
| pitti | I sponsored it this morning because it made the desktop uninstallable | 10:08 |
| xclaesse | seb128, good, thanks ! | 10:08 |
| xclaesse | a ppa, exactly what I needed :D | 10:08 |
| micahg | pitti: you mean dobey made the desktop uninstallable by uploading a package depending on his creation before it was uploaded | 10:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I'm all for getting the new version, I'm just unsure those packaging changes are good idea | 10:09 |
| pitti | it should ceratainly be done in Debian as well, or we'll revert them | 10:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, great, thanks | 10:11 |
| pitti | well, not "great", but let's see what debian says to the split | 10:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, well great to know that people are not pushing to keep the divergence over Debian | 10:12 |
| seb128 | though I would have avoided the packaging change at this point | 10:12 |
| seb128 | not a big deal though | 10:12 |
| seb128 | we can merge back,sort that later | 10:12 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: hm, latest firefox forgot how to drag&drop tabs? | 10:15 |
| pitti | i. e. change the sorting? | 10:16 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - that seems to work here. have you got an addon that is breaking it? | 10:17 |
| pitti | it was working until yesterday at least | 10:17 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: adblock plus and easy youtube downloader; neither seem relevant? | 10:18 |
| pitti | and menubar, testpilot, ubufox of course | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, they should be | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | **shouldn't be | 10:19 |
| * chrisccoulson needs more coffee | 10:19 | |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: hm, a restart fixed it; seems the automatic restart broke a tad | 10:28 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I also noticed that in that auto-restarted firefox it did a poor job of remembering the value of input fields, let's hope that's gone now as well :) | 10:29 |
| pitti | so perhaps the auto-restart just didn't reset itself properly | 10:29 |
| micahg | pitti: I just noticed that the I got an unable to start web browser error, but the browser opened fine, any debug info I can get you before I close it? | 10:36 |
| pitti | micahg: was this a root/system user report or a crash from your user? | 10:37 |
| micahg | idk, it was unity-2d | 10:37 |
| pitti | micahg: "unable to start web browser" -> terminal or dialog? | 10:37 |
| micahg | dialog | 10:37 |
| pitti | micahg: ok, your user then | 10:37 |
| pitti | micahg: apport-cli, -gtk, or -kde? | 10:38 |
| micahg | apport-gtk | 10:38 |
| pitti | ok, that means that xdg-open exited with nonzero | 10:38 |
| pitti | micahg: if you run xdg-open <the URL apport opened> in a terminal, does it exit with 0? | 10:39 |
| micahg | pitti: what's the special shell call to check the return value of the last command? | 10:39 |
| pitti | micahg: echo $? | 10:40 |
| micahg | yep, 0 | 10:40 |
| pitti | hmm | 10:40 |
| pitti | so, xdg-open is evil | 10:40 |
| pitti | micahg: at this point I can't think of further debug questions, I'm afraid | 10:40 |
| pitti | FYI, I have $? in my $PS1, it's quite handy | 10:40 |
| micahg | pitti: is it worth a report since i don't think I can reproduce? | 10:41 |
| pitti | micahg: checking existing bugs.. | 10:41 |
| micahg | apport? I didn't see any | 10:41 |
| pitti | right, doesn't seem to be reported | 10:41 |
| pitti | they might be against xdg-utils of course (which is where it actually belongs) | 10:42 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I can has another bug pattern for bug 925049? | 10:42 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 925049 in libreoffice "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal()" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925049 | 10:42 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: please | 10:42 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: lazy you! :-) | 10:42 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: yes, can do | 10:42 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: no, lazy reporters not checking for obvious dupes | 10:43 |
| pitti | (I meant for not writing it yourself, but nevermind) | 10:44 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: committed | 10:45 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I didnt even try, fearing some hardcore launchpad permissions and group membership minefield on the way ... | 10:47 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ~ubuntu-bugcontrol | 10:47 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: im a member, so that can be all of it! | 10:48 |
| Sweetshark | s/can/cant/ | 10:48 |
| Sweetshark | ;) | 10:48 |
| pitti | that's the group who can commit to lp:~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns | 10:48 |
| pitti | anyway, not a biggie | 10:48 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: I just wonder why the client-side duplication detection doesn't pick that up | 10:49 |
| micahg | pitti: I don't see an xdg-utils bug | 10:49 |
| pitti | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120309/ | 10:49 |
| pitti | \o/ not oversized any more | 10:49 |
| * Sweetshark hopes to get to <700 open bugs in LibreOffice before release. | 10:51 | |
| micahg | Sweetshark: wow, your not in such bad shape, we have >1k more in just the firefox source | 10:54 |
| micahg | s/your/you're/ | 10:54 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: Most of those are harmless, but the bigger the number of bugs, the easier it is to let a critical one fly by under the radar. | 10:56 |
| seb128 | mvo, new aptdaemon is buggy | 11:00 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/pkcompat.py", line 2157, in _emit_require_restart | 11:00 |
| seb128 | trans.pktrans.RequireRestart(pk_enums.RESTART_SYSTEM, "") | 11:00 |
| seb128 | AttributeError: 'Transaction' object has no attribute 'pktrans' | 11:00 |
| seb128 | mvo, when installing an update which should require a restart | 11:00 |
| mvo | seb128: meh, give me a minute | 11:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, the indicator-session works | 11:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, it turned red | 11:01 |
| mvo | seb128: very nice | 11:02 |
| Sweetshark | eh, how do I remove a 'security issue' flag from a bug? | 11:09 |
| mvo | seb128: I need to get lunch now, sorry, I will look afterwards - do you have more backtrace? I'm not 100% certain what is causing this from my initial look | 11:09 |
| seb128 | mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875890/ | 11:10 |
| seb128 | mvo, enjoy lunch | 11:11 |
| mitya57 | Something that shouldn't normally happen: I get yelp crash every time I try to search — what can be the reason? (see bug 947188) | 11:30 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 947188 in yelp "yelp assert failure: *** glibc detected *** yelp: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0xacb71ea0 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947188 | 11:30 |
| seb128 | mitya57, bug? | 11:42 |
| mitya57 | bug 947188 | 11:42 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 947188 in yelp "yelp assert failure: *** glibc detected *** yelp: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0xacb71ea0 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947188 | 11:42 |
| seb128 | mitya57, right, I saw that, you ask "what can be the reason" -> a bug | 11:43 |
| seb128 | that's the reason | 11:44 |
| seb128 | what's the reason to segfaults and issues? | 11:44 |
| seb128 | that's a weird question to ask... | 11:44 |
| mitya57 | what's the reason for it working for everyone except me? <- that's what I mean | 11:44 |
| chrisccoulson | you should try running it in valgrind | 11:47 |
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| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| mitya57 | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875954/ | 12:08 |
| mitya57 | (sorry for the delay, it hanged after start and failed to load the home page for 30 mins) | 12:08 |
| xclaesse | is it known that killall does not seems to work correctly on precise anymore? | 13:02 |
| xclaesse | killall telepathy-gabble says telepathy-gabble: no process found | 13:03 |
| xclaesse | even though it auto-completed it with tab | 13:03 |
| xclaesse | and of course, ps shows it, and kill its pid works | 13:03 |
| Sweetshark | xclaesse: file a bug, I guess. If you need a workaround try pkill (killall is evil anyway for breaking unix tradition) | 13:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I'd appreciate if you could take a look at bug 950097, I left a question there for you | 13:11 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 950097 in ubuntu-defaults-builder "offline start page doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950097 | 13:11 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| chrisccoulson | pitti, answered now | 13:31 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, so I should remove that functionality from defaults-builder? | 13:37 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i think that would be best | 13:38 |
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| dobey | micahg, pitti: i used the same description/etc that totem-mozilla uses, for rhythmbox-mozilla. if you think it's wrong to say "xulrunner" there, we should change both i guess. | 14:02 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: I got a UIFe for the new lock setting | 14:02 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, \o/ | 14:02 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: do I just commit to the three trees, or do you want me to upload too? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I can handle both if you want, i.e from your debdiff | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I need to upload gsettings-desktop-schemas and gnome-settings-daemon today anyway | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, and I can sneak g-c-c work if there is an upload for that | 14:04 |
| dobey | seb128, pitti: intend to push binnews to debian as well, yes. but rhythmbox-ubuntuone needed new crasher fixes | 14:05 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: wait a sec, I've bumped the gsettings-desktop-schemas depends in gnome-settings-daemon and g-c-c since I posted the debdiffs | 14:05 |
| seb128 | dobey, it's just surprising that you went for new binaries changes | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, that's fine, I can fix the depends | 14:06 |
| dobey | seb128: sorry. i listed them in the ffe bug report i filed the other day | 14:06 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: ok, then the debdiffs + the bumped depends | 14:06 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: thanks! | 14:06 |
| seb128 | dobey, well it's just that I don't see the point to divert from Debian on that | 14:06 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks | 14:06 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I might rename the key | 14:07 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: sure! | 14:07 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, i.e ubuntu-lock-on-suspend | 14:07 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I like to have non upstream stuff ubuntu- prefixed, avoid confusion for everybody | 14:07 |
| mdeslaur | that sounds good | 14:07 |
| seb128 | great ;-) | 14:07 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: hello | 14:09 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: i've set the 3 different settings for "send fucking plain text mail" in thunderbird and it's still trying to send html | 14:10 |
| dobey | seb128: well, external plug-ins having to Depends: rhythmbox-plugins, to work, is a bit broken. and it's nice to be able to remove someo of the plug-ins. anyway, i will work to push the changes into debian as well. was just a bit rushed to get it into ubuntu as there are crash fixes rhythmbox-ubuntuone needs :-/ | 14:10 |
| desrt | is there a 4th and 5th setting somewhere? | 14:10 |
| dobey | desrt: don't stress so much. the hair on your neck is turning grey. | 14:10 |
| seb128 | dobey, ok, thanks | 14:11 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | good morning folks | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | seb128, farstream sync is in NEW | 14:11 |
| dobey | pitti, seb128, kenvandine: care to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/precise/twisted/fix-935756/+merge/96617 ? :) | 14:12 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | dobey, sure | 14:13 |
| dobey | thanks | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no it isn't ;-) | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128, old joke, i'm onto you! | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hehe | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I'm going to upload a gtk in a bit, how did it go for the eventbox scrolling stuff? | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | dobey, i would rather have someone more familiar with twisted, it scares me | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | maybe ping doko? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | dobey, same than kenvandine | 14:15 |
| dobey | ok | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sort of... having to explicitly set GDK_SCROLL_MASK on widgets seems like it is going to have tons of side effects | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | adding it to the eventbox sort of helped gwibber | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | but all the widgets in the eventbox blocks the scroll events | 14:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, can you move to discuss it on the #gtk+ channel? | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | so everywhere there is a label it gets ignored | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | yeah, i about to do that | 14:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, they will probably unblock you quickly compared at having to poke and figure it by yourself | 14:16 |
| dobey | awesome | 14:16 |
| dobey | it's like scrolling a web page and being like "oh hi flash!" | 14:16 |
| ricotz | dobey, hi | 14:20 |
| dobey | ricotz: hi | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i also suspect we might have more xi2 problems, if i add GDK_SCROLL_MASK and GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK all i get are GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL events | 14:21 |
| ricotz | dobey, where is this rhythmbox tarball coming from? and there is no 2.95.5 tag | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | which afaik i shouldn't, since i don't have the right kind of device | 14:21 |
| dobey | ricotz: http://people.gnome.org/~jmatthew/rhythmbox-2.95.5.tar.xz | 14:21 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, it's for sure having some issues, I hope they get sorted soon | 14:22 |
| dobey | ricotz: it's a "prerelease" he made for me, and not an official tagged release. yeah i know :-/ | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | not sure if that would be in gdk or X though | 14:22 |
| ricotz | dobey, hmm, i see, do you know which git hash it is based on? | 14:22 |
| stgraber | pitti: thanks, I must admit I simply tried to find equivalents for our current code and as Engine existed I simply used it ;) | 14:23 |
| stgraber | pitti: will do the changes in ubiquity now and see if that works as expected | 14:24 |
| ricotz | dobey, nm, the changelog says it | 14:24 |
| dobey | ricotz: ok | 14:24 |
| dpm | hi pitti, it seems we've still got the language pack version 20120221 in precise, but I see that the cron job is enabled. Do you know why langpacks are not being released after the beta freeze? | 14:25 |
| Beret | does anyone know if there's going to be a way to disable the HUD in precise? | 14:26 |
| Beret | (CCSM doesn't count) | 14:26 |
| ricotz | dobey, the mpris patch isnt included in this version | 14:27 |
| dobey | Beret: dconf-editor | 14:27 |
| dobey | ricotz: yes it is | 14:27 |
| ricotz | dobey, no, it isnt | 14:28 |
| ricotz | could you check again? | 14:28 |
| dobey | ricotz: MPRIS_BUS_NAME_PREFIX ".rhythmbox", | 14:29 |
| dobey | ricotz: that's what's in the code in the tarball | 14:29 |
| ricotz | dobey, i mean this one http://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/commit/?id=778d3317900337dc7177d0a80ee052f966094485 | 14:30 |
| dobey | ricotz: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/rhythmbox/precise/revision/201 doesn't include that. the changes in the patch added in that revision are included in this tarball. | 14:32 |
| ricotz | dobey, ah there where two mpris fixes | 14:32 |
| dobey | ricotz: so i guess that patch was missing this change too then? | 14:32 |
| ricotz | dobey, yeah sorry, i think so | 14:33 |
| dobey | ricotz: i think moch will make a 2.96 release in the next few days. if you want to add that patch or wait for tarball, either way is fine by me. :) | 14:34 |
| ricotz | dobey, shouldnt be that important, just thought this was the patch that was added at last | 14:35 |
| dobey | ricotz: ok | 14:36 |
| stgraber | pitti: any idea why the .name property of a ConfigItem contains that much garbage http://paste.ubuntu.com/876095/? | 14:50 |
| stgraber | pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/876097/ is my current diff for converting from xklavier to gir Xkl | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | seb128, farstream is in binNEW | 15:00 |
| * kenvandine waits for seb128's response :) | 15:01 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine: is that aimed to main? I didn't follow much | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | pitti said no MIR | 15:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: I'm sure you didn't wait for this response :p | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | since it is a rename | 15:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: ok, good | 15:01 |
| pitti | yay, my network is back | 15:02 |
| pitti | stgraber: ah, great | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | pitti, having network is good, mkay' | 15:02 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: I will wait for the amd64 binaries | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:02 |
| pitti | dpm: I only re-enabled the cronjob yesterday or so | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ok | 15:02 |
| pitti | dpm: and I saw langpacks on the buildds today | 15:02 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: should be there in less than half an hour | 15:02 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: is it blocking you? | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | seb128, thx | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | well, i was going to wait for it to upload all the things that need it | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | i hate having to hit retry a bunch of time for things | 15:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: things will dep wait, don't bother | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | yeah, but they will queue to build and then dep wait then queue to build again | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | i guess the builders aren't busy today | 15:03 |
| pitti | stgraber: it's indeed a bit of a nasty API, see the wrappers I had to do in the test-gi.py script | 15:05 |
| pitti | stgraber: it's delivered as an array, not a staring | 15:05 |
| pitti | string | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | seb128, so with the smooth scrolling landing in gtk, vala apps that depend on GDK_SCROLL events will be broken until vala updates to the latest gtk | 15:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: is that the same will all bindings? | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | i still think we need to add that back to the eventbox, that is a common use case for an eventbox | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | i assume | 15:05 |
| seb128 | :-( | 15:06 |
| seb128 | what changed? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | well, gir is easier | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | the gtk gir should already have it right? | 15:06 |
| seb128 | gtk stopped emiting scroll events in favor of smooth scrolling ones? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | if you have a xi2 server | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | you get the smooth scroll event | 15:07 |
| pitti | stgraber: | 15:07 |
| pitti | i = s.find(b'\x00') | 15:07 |
| pitti | return s[:i].decode() | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | and the vapi doesn't know about it | 15:07 |
| seb128 | kenvandine: still it's an abi change late in the cycle, I start pondering reverting smooth scrolling for precise | 15:07 |
| pitti | stgraber: that's my item_str(s) method which converts a zero-terminated int8 array into a proper str | 15:07 |
| stgraber | pitti: oh, fun ;) ok will update to that then... | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i do fear how many unknown side effects there are | 15:07 |
| pitti | stgraber: accessing bare structs with static data is fun :/ | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | i could manually go add the SCROLL_MASK to every place i create an event box in gwibber and if we don't patch gtk to add them to the eventbox | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | gwibber will be fine | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | but i think the right thing to do is add both scroll and smooth scroll to the eventbox, it is common reason to use an eventbox | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | but if it has GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK on it, then that is what gets emitted | 15:09 |
| stgraber | pitti: wow, the test actually pass now! thanks | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | instead of GDK_SCROLL | 15:09 |
| pitti | stgraber: \o/ | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | so if apps depend on that, they will break | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | or in the vala case, the vapi doesn't know about them yet | 15:09 |
| dobey | kenvandine: gwibbre has an eventbox with a box with a bunch of eventboxes? | 15:10 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, sorry, was on the bike | 15:19 |
| chrisccoulson | there aren't any more settings that i'm aware of :/ | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | dobey, yes... because we do our own scrolling | 15:19 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, you're not using it under unity, are you? | 15:19 |
| dpm | pitti, ah, ok, thanks! | 15:20 |
| dobey | kenvandine: why not just shove it in a scrolledwindow? | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | oh i wish i could | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | i will evently do something like that | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | eventually | 15:20 |
| dobey | if you can't, your code is broken :) | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | right now it is a several boxes, side by side in a group | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | and each box scrolls | 15:21 |
| dobey | meh | 15:22 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: no. | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | and they also only contain as many tiles as you can see | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | njpatel was getting really fancy with that stuff | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | it just ended up being rather complicated | 15:23 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, are you replying to a mail? | 15:24 |
| desrt | yes | 15:25 |
| desrt | the mail in question is in plain text | 15:25 |
| desrt | restarting thunderbird fixed it | 15:25 |
| desrt | i really only did require 3 settings | 15:25 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 15:25 |
| chrisccoulson | bugger :( | 15:25 |
| desrt | thunderbird seems to be built on the assumption that you'd only ever want to send text email because something is wrong | 15:26 |
| desrt | ie: it lets you list particular people to avoid sending html mail to | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | the reason i asked if you were using it under unity before, is because the radio buttons in the Format submenu seem to be broken | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | ie, when i select "Plain text" here, i get 2 items selected ;) | 15:27 |
| dobey | desrt: gsettings/dconf-daemon talk over dbus, right? | 15:31 |
| desrt | gsettings uses the dconfgsettings backend which talks to the dconf-service over dbus, yes | 15:31 |
| desrt | it's possible for gsettings to use non-dconf backends, though | 15:32 |
| desrt | and the 'talking' only happens for writes | 15:32 |
| dobey | oh. reads happen directly via open() on the db? | 15:32 |
| desrt | yes | 15:32 |
| dobey | bummer | 15:32 |
| desrt | that's why it's fast | 15:32 |
| desrt | it's also why i'm on a campaign to remove all writes on login | 15:32 |
| desrt | because then the service doesn't need to be running at all | 15:33 |
| dobey | is there any way to make it not do that? | 15:33 |
| desrt | not do what? reads? | 15:33 |
| dobey | not read settings, that is. | 15:33 |
| desrt | don't call g_settings_get()? | 15:33 |
| dobey | yes, so user settings don't screw up tests | 15:33 |
| desrt | oh | 15:33 |
| desrt | GSETTINGS_BACKEND=memory | 15:33 |
| dobey | ah | 15:33 |
| desrt | that will do all gsettings lookups against an (initially empty) GHashTable in the local process | 15:34 |
| dobey | desrt: excellent. thanks! | 15:34 |
| jbicha | what does this mean, re: the clutter 1.9 ffe ? http://lists.clutter-project.org/pipermail/clutter-devel-list/2012-March/000358.html | 15:36 |
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| seb128 | cyphermox, hey | 15:54 |
| cyphermox | hey seb128 | 15:55 |
| cyphermox | what's up | 15:56 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, how are you? | 15:57 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I noticed there is a new bluez,obex, want to have a look next week if that's updates we should do? | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | pretty good, an you | 15:57 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, the bluez.org description suggest it's mostly bug fixes | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | yes, I'll merge from debian for bluez | 15:57 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I'm good thanks ;-) | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | obex I hadn't seen but there's one or two things I want to look at today in bluetooth, once I'm done with the update of NM. | 15:58 |
| cyphermox | seb128: btw, are you in the release team? | 15:58 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, no, I'm not | 15:58 |
| cyphermox | ah | 15:58 |
| cyphermox | I'm preparing an update of NM now to another snapshot, and 0.9.4 is supposed to land around March 20. | 15:59 |
| cyphermox | pitti: ^^ I want to get a release tarball in precise rather than snapshots if possible | 16:00 |
| pitti | cyphermox: indeed, appreciated | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | read that "around march 20" as "before March 20" | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | pitti: there's a FFe bug open for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/950313 | 16:01 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 950313 in network-manager "[FFe] Update NetworkManager to a recent snapshot in prevision for the 0.9.4 release." [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
| pitti | cyphermox: does it actually have new features? | 16:01 |
| desrt | hum | 16:02 |
| desrt | my system is running like a pig | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | kind of. connectivity checking, vlan and bonding weren't completely in by feature freeze | 16:02 |
| desrt | like, when i open a new firefox window, it takes about 3 seconds for the window to first draw itself | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | at the sprint I tried to merge in connectivity checking but it didn't work well enough | 16:02 |
| pitti | cyphermox: ah, saw the commit list, very detailled; thanks | 16:03 |
| desrt | anyone else having the same? | 16:03 |
| pitti | my computer freezes to a crawl whenever its busy with large files | 16:03 |
| pitti | heavey IO really sucks | 16:03 |
| desrt | pitti: i also noticed that compiling was quite a lot slower than i am used to... | 16:03 |
| cyphermox | pitti: hopefully that's detailed enough for the release team to make an informed decision. I'm not overly worried, and I just finished building a pacakge to give it a good test run | 16:03 |
| pitti | and this is "fast" class SSD | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | mine freezes to a crawl every time i try to compile anything now | 16:03 |
| desrt | new kernel? | 16:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i can literally watch the frames when i try to switch workspaces | 16:04 |
| chrisccoulson | the workspace switching animation takes in excess of 5 seconds when i'm compiling things now | 16:04 |
| pitti | desrt: not for me; linux is like that for years | 16:04 |
| chrisccoulson | that only started recently | 16:04 |
| desrt | ya. for me it's definitely gotten quite a lot worse recently | 16:04 |
| desrt | like, i only noticed for the first time today | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | switch to a 2.2 kernel ... lots faster ! | 16:05 |
| pitti | ogra_: I'm sure udev and upstart will like that a lot! | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | haha | 16:08 |
| desrt | extra points for systemd :) | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | shudder | 16:10 |
| BigWhale | is network manager installed on ubuntu-server? | 16:14 |
| pitti | no | 16:15 |
| desrt | MacSlow: hey | 16:15 |
| BigWhale | pitti, I thought so. Thanks. | 16:16 |
| desrt | MacSlow: i want to try to tackle this unity average-bg-color thing today | 16:16 |
| MacSlow | desrt, still busy with design-stuff here | 16:16 |
| desrt | MacSlow: can you point me at a definitive list of all the places that it is used? i know that unity sets it, the dash uses it and also notify-osd | 16:16 |
| desrt | MacSlow: i'll do the work | 16:16 |
| desrt | MacSlow: i just need to know where to do the work :) | 16:16 |
| MacSlow | desrt, so it's only used for two things... to tint the dash and picked up in notify-osd (although there's still a bug somewhere with picking up the color so it turns out all wrong) | 16:17 |
| desrt | MacSlow: i plan to turn it into a property on the root window | 16:18 |
| MacSlow | desrt, iirc it's used in class BGHash (unity side) and in notify-osd picked up in class Defaults (defaults.c) | 16:20 |
| desrt | MacSlow: i guess unity is capable of communicating with itself for the purpose of the dash? | 16:20 |
| MacSlow | desrt, sure | 16:20 |
| * desrt sees only the setting being set from unity | 16:20 | |
| desrt | MacSlow: so one writer: unity and one reader: notify-osd | 16:21 |
| MacSlow | desrt, correct | 16:21 |
| desrt | okay. should be easy. | 16:21 |
| desrt | particularly since notify-osd is transient | 16:21 |
| desrt | it means i don't have to watch for changes -- only query it just before showing each bubble | 16:21 |
| desrt | i assume you don't care that the bubble dynamically changes background colour if a background fade is in progress at the time the bubble is showing :) | 16:21 |
| MacSlow | desrt, no it won't do that... it'll pick the avg. color currently stored locally when creating a bubble | 16:22 |
| MacSlow | if created and the avg. color changes only the next bubbles will pick that one up | 16:23 |
| desrt | cool | 16:23 |
| desrt | i'm not even going to store it locally, though | 16:23 |
| desrt | just query the server every time | 16:23 |
| desrt | interesting. _XROOTPMAP_ID(PIXMAP): pixmap id # 0x1000001 | 16:27 |
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| mdeslaur | seb128: I've attached a new debdiff that changes the switch to a checkbox, much nicer | 16:41 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, ok, good | 16:42 |
| seb128 | I've almost done with g-s-d | 16:42 |
| seb128 | soon to gcc ;-) | 16:42 |
| mdeslaur | cool :) | 16:42 |
| pitti | good night everyone! have a nice weekend | 16:49 |
| pitti | seb128: and stop upping your bug counter, impossible to keep up :) | 16:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, 'night ;-) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e | 16:50 |
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| chrisccoulson | right, i've got a valgrind capable build of thunderbird. now time to see who is leaking memory here :) | 17:44 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: EVERYONE | 18:14 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 18:14 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a pain having to rebuild it just so i can run it in valgrind | 18:14 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, there? | 18:17 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: yes | 18:17 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, is there any reason why you packed a checkbox and a label in a box? | 18:18 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: what's up? | 18:18 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, rather than just setting the label on the GtkCheckButton | 18:18 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, just checking before "fixing" it | 18:18 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, the way you did it you can't click on the label to check,uncheck the box | 18:18 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: d'oh, no...it's just the result of me converting it from the switch | 18:18 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, ok, I'm changing it then, no worry, | 18:19 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks | 18:19 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: sorry about that | 18:19 |
| mdeslaur | thanks | 18:19 |
| seb128 | no worry, thanks for the good work ;-) | 18:19 |
| desrt | gord: ping | 18:19 |
| didrocks | have a good week-end everyone! | 18:23 |
| desrt | didrocks: you too. bye :) | 18:23 |
| didrocks | desrt: thanks ;) | 18:23 |
| mterry | didrocks, bye! | 18:23 |
| * mterry hides again | 18:23 | |
| seb128 | oh, a mterry! | 18:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, how are you? | 18:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, still busy trying to catch up with design requests? ;-) | 18:30 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah a bit. Trying to figure out performance issues in unity-greeter, which design didn't like | 18:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you also get that 1 second "hang" in the select user animation when switching to the greeter? | 18:30 |
| mterry | seb128, not sure. explain? | 18:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, not sure how I trigger it exactly now, sometime when switching users I'm send to the greeter, and when the greeter starts there is a "sliding effect" to select my users which is not at the top of the list | 18:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, that "slide to the user to select" often is jerky | 18:35 |
| mterry | hm | 18:36 |
| seb128 | like it stops for some 0.1s and resume | 18:36 |
| mterry | i guess that's the general thing. stopping jerkiness | 18:36 |
| mterry | Not sure the cause yet | 18:36 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:36 |
| mterry | seb128, do you have users with long names? | 18:36 |
| seb128 | well I was curious rather than complaining | 18:36 |
| mterry | such that they fade off? | 18:36 |
| seb128 | no | 18:36 |
| mterry | bummer, i fixed a slow down with those | 18:36 |
| seb128 | well animation is smooth once the greeter is loaded | 18:36 |
| seb128 | I though it was because it was io busy or something | 18:36 |
| mterry | maybe it's just cpu bound or something on startup... | 18:37 |
| seb128 | right | 18:37 |
| mterry | but I've seen jerkiness in other situations | 18:37 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #950791 | 18:40 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 950791 in aptdaemon "<type 'exceptions.AttributeError'>: 'Transaction' object has no attribute 'pktrans'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950791 | 18:40 |
| seb128 | mvo, that's the bug I mentioned this morning with the new aptdaemon | 18:40 |
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| gatox | hi, does anyone know where i can report a bug about the hud? | 19:31 |
| desrt | seb128: seeing #gnome-hackers? | 19:31 |
| dobey | gatox: unity | 19:34 |
| gatox | dobey, ok, i was asking because maybe was something specific for that | 19:35 |
| gatox | dobey, thanks | 19:35 |
| dobey | gatox: dx team will file it against unity for tracking anyway | 19:35 |
| chrisccoulson | uh-oh, "Solihull Police (@SolihullPolice) is now following you on Twitter" | 19:46 |
| chrisccoulson | that's not what i want to see! | 19:46 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 19:46 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: haha | 19:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, specifics? it's friday night and I don't feel like reading 5 pages of scrollback to figure what you pinged about ;-) | 19:55 |
| desrt | seb128: so how unity works now is something like this: | 19:58 |
| desrt | gnome-control-center modifies the background image settings, writes to gsettings | 19:58 |
| desrt | g-s-d picks those up, loads the image, writes to a pixmap in X and sets a property on the root window to point to the pixmap | 19:58 |
| desrt | unity sees this change, loads the image out of the X server, does an average calculation on it, sets the average-bg-color in GSettings | 19:58 |
| desrt | notify-osd picks it up | 19:58 |
| seb128 | what has g-s-d to do with that? | 19:58 |
| desrt | the g-s-d background plugin is what is responsible for actually setting the background | 19:59 |
| seb128 | no | 19:59 |
| seb128 | nautilus is | 19:59 |
| seb128 | but I guess same difference | 19:59 |
| desrt | very well | 19:59 |
| desrt | in either case, they're using libgnome-desktop "gnome-bg" | 19:59 |
| seb128 | it's probably g-s-d in GNOME because nautilus doesn't handle the background | 19:59 |
| seb128 | sorry, please keep going ;-) | 19:59 |
| desrt | i'm doing a patch now to libgnome-desktop to set the average colour in a new property on the X root window | 20:00 |
| seb128 | great | 20:00 |
| desrt | and notify-osd can just read it straight from there | 20:00 |
| desrt | so it will work even without unity | 20:00 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 20:00 |
| desrt | looks like it will be accepted too | 20:00 |
| seb128 | is there a standard definition on what the average color is? | 20:00 |
| desrt | Company and halflife are already arguing over ways to make the algorithm 'more intelligent' than just using the average :) | 20:00 |
| seb128 | like something everybody agrees on? | 20:00 |
| desrt | well | 20:00 |
| desrt | there is some existing code there, and i use that | 20:00 |
| desrt | it's the same code the answers the gnome_bg_is_dark() question | 20:01 |
| desrt | basically, just adds up all the pixels | 20:01 |
| desrt | and divides by the number of pixels | 20:01 |
| desrt | it sounds like we may get fancy here, though | 20:01 |
| desrt | a great example is if you have green grass and a blue sky | 20:01 |
| desrt | in that case it sounds like Company wants to say that there are two representative colours | 20:02 |
| desrt | taking the average blue and the average green, separately | 20:02 |
| seb128 | right | 20:02 |
| seb128 | it opens the way to complex logic though | 20:02 |
| seb128 | then you need to consider what are the regions and where your ui is placed | 20:02 |
| desrt | ya. i was thinking about that. | 20:02 |
| desrt | i think we should not worry about it | 20:03 |
| desrt | this approach is already better than the existing one | 20:03 |
| seb128 | right, we can still improve over time if needed | 20:03 |
| seb128 | but the medium value should be a good start | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | ouch: https://twitter.com/#!/paulrouget/status/178198646188294144 | 20:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, thanks for working on that ;-) | 20:03 |
| desrt | if needed, we could do an average for each 'quadrant' or so | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | G+, Y U USE SO MUCH MEMORY???? | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 20:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, stop twitter, it's bad for you! ;-) | 20:04 |
| micahg | Firefox trunk with load on demand tabs seems to be sipping memory now :) | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i get all of my information from twitter now. even the news! | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, i actually do find things out on twitter before i see them anywhere else now | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | that's bad ;) | 20:04 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, seeing the noise ration you must be spending a lot of time to get the infos you need ;-à | 20:05 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't post that much tbh | 20:05 |
| seb128 | well posting is fine :p | 20:05 |
| seb128 | it's dealing with the flood of infos which is not :p | 20:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, are you one of those who have notify-osd always on screen with twitter infos? ;-) | 20:05 |
| seb128 | like constant activities all day long? ;-) | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no, i don't have gwibber set up at all | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i find the desktop notifications really annoying ;) | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | for twitter, anyway | 20:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well it's a way to get the tweets on screen before going to a browser | 20:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, but I guess a browser is your desktop anyway :p | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | having twitter open in my browser is much less distracting :) | 20:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hum, I need to bug something to get you to do desktop work again ;-) | 20:07 |
| seb128 | you need to get you of your browser | 20:07 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 20:07 |
| seb128 | that would be good for you :p | 20:07 |
| seb128 | get *out* | 20:08 |
| chrisccoulson | you just need to wait for DX to break something ;) | 20:08 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: so give it 5 minutes? | 20:08 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 20:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't want to be the person who said that | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, you know you can change what notifications you get... like none at all or just for mentions and private | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | which is the default now | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, ah, i might try that. i haven't used gwibber for quite a long time now | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i should try it again :) | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | you should :) | 20:11 |
| dobey | just don't try to scroll | 20:12 |
| dobey | or well, you can try i guess | 20:12 |
| dobey | just won't go anywhere :) | 20:12 |
| kenvandine | dobey, that should be fixed with the gtk upload seb128 is doing | 20:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is doing -> did 3 hours ago | 20:13 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i don't even have gwibber installed. i wonder when that disappeared | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128, great :) | 20:13 |
| desrt | seb128: xsettings override branch just merged | 20:16 |
| seb128 | desrt, waouh | 20:17 |
| seb128 | desrt, I will look to it on monday for sure ;-) | 20:17 |
| desrt | ya. it's not super-high priority | 20:17 |
| * desrt is more curious to see what with happen with the representative colours patch | 20:18 | |
| seb128 | desrt, btw I was close to consider adding gconf usage again today ;-) | 20:19 |
| desrt | why? | 20:19 |
| seb128 | desrt, because of the gsettings schemas stuff making it so difficult to add an option key for a "gnome_me_harder" use | 20:20 |
| seb128 | you always have to consider where to add the schemas to make sure it's there first | 20:20 |
| desrt | seb128: why don't we have a global schema for gnome-me-harder? | 20:20 |
| desrt | you could patch it into gsettings-desktop-schemas | 20:20 |
| seb128 | or to add safegards around it | 20:20 |
| desrt | which the entire world already depends on | 20:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, I did the gsettings-desktop-schemas thing at the end | 20:20 |
| desrt | great | 20:20 |
| desrt | btw: you can use dconf | 20:20 |
| desrt | if you don't want to write a schema | 20:21 |
| seb128 | is there a C api? | 20:21 |
| desrt | yes | 20:21 |
| seb128 | ok, I should look at that ;-) | 20:21 |
| desrt | don't you package this stuff? :) | 20:21 |
| seb128 | I do, but I never saw anyone using the dconf C api in a software | 20:21 |
| desrt | vuntz uses it in gnome-panel | 20:21 |
| seb128 | so I was not sure how supported it was :p | 20:21 |
| desrt | robert_ancell uses it in dconf-editor | 20:21 |
| desrt | uhm... that's all, i think :) | 20:21 |
| seb128 | hehe | 20:22 |
| seb128 | don't get me started on dconf-editor :p | 20:22 |
| seb128 | I stopped used it | 20:22 |
| desrt | the great thing about dconf is that the #1 thing that people complain about is dconf-editor | 20:22 |
| desrt | and i can say "robert's fault!" | 20:22 |
| seb128 | lol | 20:22 |
| seb128 | well he blames it on you :p | 20:22 |
| seb128 | you made it so it's very hard to write an editor | 20:22 |
| desrt | yes and no... | 20:23 |
| desrt | the general design makes it difficult | 20:23 |
| jalcine | lol | 20:23 |
| desrt | which is caused by gsetting's aim to be something more than just a replacement for gconf | 20:23 |
| desrt | ie: you use it unconditionally from your software and it acts as a frontend to the registry on windows, property lists on the mac and dconf on linux | 20:23 |
| desrt | so there's this split.... do we want an editor for gsettings (that would also work on windows...) | 20:24 |
| desrt | or one just for dconf? | 20:24 |
| desrt | robert does a reasonable job of standing on both sides of that line.... | 20:24 |
| desrt | but of course there are complications caused by that | 20:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, my main complain with it is that it lies about key values | 20:25 |
| seb128 | it ignores overrides | 20:25 |
| desrt | ya | 20:25 |
| seb128 | which screwed me a few time in debugging | 20:25 |
| seb128 | I stopped trusting it | 20:25 |
| desrt | it wouldn't be that hard for him to fix that..... | 20:25 |
| desrt | alas | 20:25 |
| seb128 | it's like if you can trust a viewer to show the right value it's useless | 20:26 |
| stgraber | gsettings list-recursively does a reasonable job for debugging (I also gave up on dconf-editor a while ago) | 20:26 |
| seb128 | can't | 20:26 |
| desrt | seb128: do you have any idea how notify-osd works? | 20:26 |
| johan | seb128: seems broadway/html5 isn't enabled in the latest gtk-3 packaged in precise, is there anything I can do to make that change go in? | 20:26 |
| desrt | stgraber: dconf dump as well | 20:26 |
| seb128 | johan, hey, you already pinged me about that on #gnome-hackers ;-) | 20:26 |
| johan | seb128: yes, but that was before you uploaded the latest version :D | 20:27 |
| seb128 | johan, it's not enabled upstream and mclasen nacked a fedora request to enable is saying it's experimental and shouldn't be enabled | 20:27 |
| seb128 | johan, if it's too experimental for fedora it makes me wonder if I really want to enable it :p | 20:27 |
| johan | seb128: :( | 20:27 |
| desrt | ubuntu: always copying what fedora does :p | 20:27 |
| johan | to get it tested of course | 20:27 |
| johan | you do need to set an environment variable to enable it, so it's not for the light hearted | 20:28 |
| desrt | seb128: you could add yet another build variant of gtk :) | 20:28 |
| seb128 | well, lts are not where you get stuff tested, it's where you get stuff solid ;-) | 20:28 |
| seb128 | johan, I don't know enough about it, I wanted to check what it means for depends and build-depends | 20:28 |
| seb128 | but maybe desrt knows? | 20:28 |
| seb128 | desrt, does enabling a backend like that adds run time depends? | 20:29 |
| * desrt knows nothing | 20:29 | |
| desrt | seb128: yes. i'd imagine so. | 20:29 |
| desrt | seb128: the backends are not loaded as separate modules, if that's what you mean | 20:29 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, so enabling them at build-time has an impact, it's not just adding a .so somewhere you can opt in | 20:31 |
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| desrt | seb128: looks like a pretty minimal impact in terms of extra deps... | 20:31 |
| desrt | libz, basically | 20:31 |
| desrt | so mostly just increasing the code size, i guess | 20:31 |
| desrt | 6000 extra lines of C | 20:32 |
| desrt | it's my opinion that there's no obvious harm to turning it on... | 20:33 |
| desrt | that doesn't mean that there's no harm, of course :) | 20:33 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, I will check with mclasen another day | 20:34 |
| seb128 | johan, my gut feeling is that a ppa for that is good enough | 20:34 |
| seb128 | it's clearly not something import as it in the lts | 20:34 |
| seb128 | like no normal user need it | 20:34 |
| johan | seb128: yeah, I guess you're right | 20:34 |
| desrt | ugh | 20:36 |
| desrt | _get_unity_schema() | 20:36 |
| desrt | leaks... | 20:36 |
| dobey | GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.31.20/./gobject/gsignal.c:2572: instance `0x91f1200' has no handler with id `3170' | 20:44 |
| dobey | hrmm; i am getting a *LOT* of those getting printed for various things | 20:44 |
| cyphermox | seb128: I'm not as certain that bluez 4.99 looks like bugfix :/ | 20:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ok, I didn't look, I just saw the summary and wanted us to have a look | 20:45 |
| cyphermox | I see a bunch of things that make me worry a bit about how much fun this risks being to re-test everything and behavior changes | 20:45 |
| cyphermox | ok | 20:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, if you think we shouldn't update that's fine | 20:45 |
| cyphermox | though I noticed a few patches we might want to cherry-pick :) | 20:46 |
| seb128 | dobey, update your libdbusmenu to 0.5.93-0ubuntu2 | 20:46 |
| Arlo | Hi everybody, long time listener, first time caller. I work for a VoIP startup that recently released a voip/chat/video chat tool for ubuntu 32/64. I am wondering what the process would be for us to get it into the ubuntu repo? | 20:49 |
| desrt | Arlo: is it free software? | 20:49 |
| Arlo | yes. http://www.icall.com/get | 20:50 |
| desrt | did you read http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/ ? | 20:50 |
| Arlo | apparently not, that answers all of my questions. thank you. | 20:51 |
| desrt | :) | 20:51 |
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| desrt | seb128: got a working notify-osd patch for the new X property | 21:18 |
| seb128 | desrt, nice! | 21:18 |
| dobey | why is the "File System" icon in my nautilus a paper icon, instead of a hard disk? | 21:21 |
| seb128 | dobey, because you use a broken icon theme? | 21:27 |
| dobey | no | 21:27 |
| dobey | it's correct in the gtk file chooser | 21:27 |
| dobey | it's only broken in nautilus | 21:28 |
| dobey | and my windows partition has the right icon | 21:28 |
| dobey | and the larger icon onder computer:/// is also correct | 21:30 |
| seb128 | dobey, ok, wfm | 21:32 |
| seb128 | so dunno | 21:33 |
| dobey | hrmm | 21:33 |
| seb128 | desrt, you probably need a configure.ac requirement update on gnome-desktop for _GNOME_BACKGROUND_REPRESENTATIVE_COLORS | 21:34 |
| seb128 | desrt, or at least mention how it's defined and by what version in the merge request | 21:34 |
| desrt | seb128: the fallback case is just the same for if the unity schema was missing | 21:34 |
| dobey | i wonder how long it's been broken. i don't use nautilus much | 21:35 |
| seb128 | ok, time to call it a week | 21:40 |
| seb128 | good w.e everybody | 21:40 |
| dobey | cheers seb128 | 21:41 |
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