[16:00] <locodir-user> Hi anybody home?
[16:01] <czajkowski> locodir-user: hi
[16:02] <locodir-user> Hi Im a noob looking for some help with ubuntu server setup.
[16:02] <locodir-user> How do I go about looking for advice?
[16:03] <czajkowski> locodir-user: for server stuff you're better of asking in #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <locodir-user> I did and asked  question but no responses
[16:04] <czajkowski> locodir-user: busy channel
[16:04] <czajkowski> locodir-user: or the main channel #ubuntu
[16:05] <locodir-user> thanks but is there anyone local I can talk to just to get me going. Ive made some progress by myself.
[16:05] <tdr112> locodir-user: i can help with some server questions
[16:06] <locodir-user> tdr112: thanks I got some specific serup questions which should be easy enough
[16:07] <locodir-user> Can I tell you the setup?
[16:07] <tdr112> yep
[16:08] <tdr112> ask away
[16:08] <tdr112> i am doing other things too so wait for an answer
[16:08] <locodir-user> OK its a small windows workgroup used for training ECDL students.
[16:09] <locodir-user> I want to set up a Primary Domain Controller via samba (already working - kinda)  and an email server which is my sticking point.
[16:11] <locodir-user> The  lan never sees the internet - and never will . I want to set up postfix to work with Outlook  on the students machines.
[16:11] <tdr112> ok
[16:11] <locodir-user> I dont need a print server as the printers are network models already.
[16:12] <locodir-user> I got shares working so students can share files.
[16:12] <slashtommy> what's your postfix problem?
[16:13] <locodir-user> Mainly getting the domain names accepted
[16:13] <locodir-user> The documentation assumes I am connecting to the internet to read real MX records.
[16:13] <slashtommy> have you an entry in /etc/hosts on the server?
[16:14] <slashtommy> postfix will not need to lookup the mx, provided that it knows it is the server
[16:14] <locodir-user> I'm quite weak in this area so I am slavishly following the documentation]
[16:14] <slashtommy> what's in /etc/mailname
[16:15] <locodir-user> Yes but I can get to the point of sending emails to mbox  and then to Maildir ok
[16:15] <locodir-user> Hang on I'll look
[16:17] <slashtommy> then you have done it
[16:17] <slashtommy> you realise that postfix does not provide imap/pop3?
[16:17] <slashtommy> you will need to install something like dovecot
[16:19] <locodir-user> OK mailname is = heritage.net
[16:20] <slashtommy> before you change anything, as i understand it you can send emails using SMTP and they go to the destination user's mailbox?
[16:20] <locodir-user> yes
[16:21] <slashtommy> so it works
[16:21] <locodir-user> I installed courier-pop
[16:21] <slashtommy> your postfix is fine
[16:21] <slashtommy> ok, i would have suggested dovecot - always got on better with that
[16:22] <locodir-user> ok getting past the next step is where im stuck
[16:22] <locodir-user> installed courier imap
[16:23] <locodir-user> OK I'll take off courier if it will help
[16:23] <slashtommy> i'm afraid i have no experience with courier imap
[16:23] <locodir-user> so dovecot then
[16:24] <locodir-user> I want the students to do ll the ECDL stuff which would mean imap
[16:25] <slashtommy> imap is fine
[16:25] <locodir-user> BW I gor apache going - a breeze
[16:27] <locodir-user> I  want the teacher to be able to administer the email system. She will need a very simple interface. GUI of possible
[16:27] <slashtommy> to administer postfix and the imap daemon?
[16:27] <locodir-user> I'll go off and install dovecot and read up about it and come back
[16:29] <locodir-user> yes to administer the thing. I just want to set it up. When students rotate through the course we andt to purge the account and start again with a new account.
[16:33] <slashtommy> if you want to return the server to the original state, maybe you want to store a disk image
[16:34] <locodir-user> OK but tellme what can dovecot do that courier cannot?
[16:35] <slashtommy> i recommend dovecot over courier for the same reason why i would recommend postfix over sendmail
[16:35] <locodir-user> BTW the server i'm using is just an old thing made up from spare parts.  using Putty from win xp to control it.
[16:36] <locodir-user> I dont care as it is a training machine for me. The actual server will be set up when i get my knowledge up.
[16:37] <slashtommy> dovecot is ime far easier to work with
[16:38] <locodir-user> OK. Well I'm out of time for the moment. Can I come back later when I got dovecot installed.
[16:39] <ebel> there's a web gui for managing postfix addresses i think
[16:39] <ebel> thought that's mostly for doing things like adding new aliases, rather than the whole imap/postfix/etc stack
[16:39] <ebel> (i.e. i dunno if it'll remove the actual emails etc)
[16:40] <locodir-user> Ooh that is somthing I will need. Can it be run from windows. the teacher does not know linux and has never used command line.
[16:41] <locodir-user> The teacher will just want to add new accounts and delete old ones. Maybe not even delete old ones as I can do that myself occasionally.
[16:45] <ebel> http://postfixadmin.sourceforge.net/ look at this?
[16:45] <ebel> should work over the web
[16:48] <locodir-user> Thanks ebel I will check it out. I gotta go. Thanks everyone. I'll be back again with a proper irc client later to continue the adventure.
[16:48] <locodir-user> All the best.
[16:48] <ebel> No problem. Drop in any time, if you have questions
[16:49] <locodir-user> Thanks bye.
[20:45] <airurando> good evening
[20:58] <tdr112> hey
[21:16] <airurando> hi tdr112
[21:16] <airurando> sorry about that
[21:17] <airurando> I managed to disable unity while messing with compiz settings.
[21:17] <airurando> funny when you are confronted with a blank screen
[23:14] <ubu-stu> How do you create a samba share so the webmaster can own the website but other domain users cannot see it.
[23:14] <ubu-stu> The web guy will be using windows
[23:40] <czajkowski> davem_: might know but he's not here