[00:51] <Darkwing> Yay! Got approved for sponsorship at UDS
[00:51] <Darkwing> Bay Area, here I come :D
[00:51] <pleia2> congrats :)
[00:52] <Darkwing> How much is BART from SFO to Oakland?
[00:52] <Darkwing> Approx?
[00:52] <broder> http://www.bart.gov/tickets/calculator/index.aspx says about $8 or $9
[00:53] <broder> err, sorry, that's round trip
[00:53] <Darkwing> That's not bad. I'll call my cousin and see if he is busy that sunday. He lives in Berkley
[00:54] <pleia2> Darkwing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/uds-project/+bug/929014
[00:54] <pleia2> has bart info
[00:54] <pleia2> clearly I tried, unsuccessfully, to get it on the actual UDS page
[00:55] <pleia2> "wishlist" and forgotten! oh well :)
[00:55] <Darkwing> 42 minutes??
[00:55] <pleia2> it's faster than driving
[00:55] <Darkwing> I think that will be longer then my flight :P:P
[00:55] <pleia2> takes about 25 minutes to get from SFO to downtown SF alone (where the Bay Bridge to Oakland lives)
[00:56] <Darkwing> Yeah, I know. I remember the area.
[00:56] <Darkwing> I'll ring my cousin and see what he is doing.
[01:05] <Darkwing> Change planes in Pheonix?!?!?!
[01:05]  * Darkwing thwaps the travel people
[20:37] <philipballew> does the Amtrak let off in an easy location compared to this may's UDS?
[22:14] <BotenAnna> where is UDS?
[22:14] <pleia2> Oakland
[22:14] <BotenAnna> not sure about that far north :X
[22:14] <pleia2> (downtown, near 12th street bart)
[22:14] <BotenAnna> i only know about LA and southward amtrak, ha
[22:15] <broder> it looks like the amtrak station for oakland is about a dozen blocks away from the nearest bart station
[22:15] <BotenAnna> there might be a bus? but still, ick if so
[22:16] <pleia2> amtrak itself does do some busing around the area, but I don't know specifics
[22:23] <philipballew> I was going to bring my bike to uds so I might be able to ride it and pull my suitcase behind.
[22:23] <philipballew> what a sight that would be
[22:29] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do you think taking Amtrak to Jack London Sq is best?
[22:29] <bkerensa> pleia2: I have decided not to take a plane :)
[22:47] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't know oakland well enough to be helpful
[22:52] <BotenAnna> ok fun question time
[22:52] <BotenAnna> a while ago i found out you could change the sudo prompt
[22:52] <BotenAnna> like when it asks you for a password
[22:53] <BotenAnna> it looks like this now for me:
[22:53] <BotenAnna> anna@botenanna:~$ sudo grep -i operator /root/.*
[22:53] <BotenAnna> OPERATOR OVERRIDE:
[22:53] <BotenAnna> OVERRIDE FAILURE
[22:53] <BotenAnna> OPERATOR OVERRIDE:
[22:53] <BotenAnna> problem is, i cant figure out how i did this now
[22:53] <BotenAnna> does anyone know?
[22:54] <DonkeyHotei> lol
[22:54] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do you know by chance if the hotel will at least be in Oakland? :P the agency is asking which city I should disembark at
[22:55] <pleia2> bkerensa: http://uds.ubuntu.com/event/ has all the details, scroll down to "Venue"
[22:56] <pleia2> it's being held at a hotel, people are staying at that hotel and the one across the street from it
[23:00] <broder> oh, hmm, is the hotel full already or something?
[23:04] <erichammond> Looks like I'll also be attending UDS (sponsored).  Now I need to figure out which days I should go.
[23:04] <pleia2> broder: they knew it would, the conference hotel is small
[23:04] <pleia2> they're both marriot, this is not uncommon for them
[23:04] <pleia2> at that venue
[23:05] <broder> oh, ok
[23:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: So in the e-mail it said Canonical will pay for 6 days from Sunday (day before event) does that mean I must checkout on Friday last day of event or Saturday morning?
[23:21] <pleia2> bkerensa: most people spend Sunday night through Friday night there
[23:21] <pleia2> so you check out Saturday morning
[23:21] <bkerensa> pleia2: ok :)
[23:22] <pleia2> so what they mean is 6 nights :)
[23:22] <pleia2> in hotel speak
[23:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: ok excellent :) I just am trying to make it so I dont have to wander in Oakland between checkout and my trip back
[23:23] <bkerensa> :)
[23:24] <bkerensa> I dont like Oakland too much
[23:24]  * pleia2 doesn't like wandering around Oakland much
[23:25] <bkerensa> pleia2: If there is a long gap I might just go into SF and eat moar sushi
[23:25] <bkerensa> apparently Amtrak has a weird schedule
[23:25] <philipballew> im gonna bring my bike, but Im afraid to lock it up anywhere
[23:25] <pleia2> yeah, you can drop off your stuff at the hotel and they can hold on to it for you before 3PM checkin
[23:26] <pleia2> philipballew: you might call the hotel and see if they have bike parking (still risky and I'm sure they don't accept liability, but they may have a place in their car garage)
[23:26] <philipballew> If they dont, I might have to leave it in the room. baring roomate does not mind
[23:27] <pleia2> hehe
[23:27] <bkerensa> philipballew: I know my way around the bay area so if were early we could go catch food or something together
[23:27] <bkerensa> :D
[23:27] <bkerensa> I just try and avoid Oakland... Especially East Oakland
[23:27] <pleia2> we had someone steal a bike from the 4th level (4 stories down!) of our parking garage here where I live
[23:27] <bkerensa> :P
[23:27] <pleia2> it was sad
[23:28] <philipballew> bkerensa, that sounds perfect. I was going to leave Auburn Sunday morning
[23:28] <pleia2> caught them on the camera casing the place, and then coming back to steal an expensive bike, police have the full report (and photo from camera!)
[23:28]  * pleia2 is glad her bike is not super expensive
[23:28] <pleia2> it's a nice bike, but not $2k nice :)
[23:28] <philipballew> yeah, I try to make mine look cheeper then it really is
[23:29] <bkerensa> philipballew: Im waiting for the agency to let me know when I will arrive Sunday... But I did just give them the stations I prefer and so it should be final soon
[23:29] <bkerensa> philipballew: are you sponsored or coming on your own?
[23:29] <philipballew> I called the station and asked for greg or whatever it was and he was gone
[23:29] <philipballew> Im sponsored
[23:31] <philipballew> I may just email him
[23:32] <philipballew> bkerensa, when were you leaving portland
[23:35] <bkerensa> philipballew: Apparently I will be leaving Portland on Saturday night arriving sometime on Sunday
[23:35] <bkerensa> :)
[23:35] <bkerensa> philipballew: You know they allow preferenced room pairing
[23:36] <philipballew> they did, that is a good idea bkerensa
[23:36] <philipballew> I like that
[23:37] <bkerensa> philipballew: Greg Dawson? Yeah they had some other person e-mail me and said they will book soon
[23:38] <philipballew> I think so. I need to email him today still. i'm reading a book first. well avoiding reading a book...
[23:42] <philipballew> bkerensa, If im taking thr train I dont need to hurry that much on travel
[23:42] <bkerensa> philipballew: :) trains have food and booze car and hopefully wifi
[23:43] <philipballew> I took the train from sd to la 3 weeks ago and I can comfirm they had wifi and power outlets
[23:44] <bkerensa> nice
[23:45] <philipballew> Food is expensive there probably. But thats just my opinion
[23:47] <philipballew> my trip will be only like three hours. much less time then my public transit rout I made to the bay that only costs like 10 dollars
[23:47] <philipballew> only downside is its 8 hours
[23:51] <bkerensa> philipballew: I plan on budgeting like $300
[23:51] <bkerensa> for food and drink when Im there
[23:51] <bkerensa> :D
[23:53] <philipballew> im budgeting 20 in Case people want to go out to eat. other then that I will find hotel breakfast food, and Ill bring top romen
[23:53] <philipballew> i think its a really bad idea, but what the hell
[23:53] <bkerensa> philipballew: Well I believe UDS has Breakfast and Lunch.... Or so I was told.... I think you get a Per Diem for Dinner and also can expense your taxi?
[23:53] <bkerensa> idl
[23:54] <bkerensa> I plan on Walking from Jack London Square to the Hotel
[23:54] <bkerensa> if I go to SF I will take the Bart and then Muni
[23:54] <philipballew> thats not that bad. I think that thats pretty doable
[23:54] <pleia2> breakfast and lunch are provided, along with lots of snacks throughout the day
[23:55] <bkerensa> I know someone from our loco said he spent about $125 just on taxi when he went to Orlando but Canonical reimbursed him for that and also gave him like $25 per dinner?
[23:55] <bkerensa> idk
[23:55] <bkerensa> yeah
[23:55] <pleia2> mon, tues and friday usually have food (at least heavy appetizers) and beyond that you usually get a per diem of $30 or so for dinner
[23:55] <bkerensa> how could you not get food at a convention
[23:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: $30 for dinner is very generous
[23:55] <pleia2> you do need a credit card to check in to the hotel for incidentals
[23:55] <pleia2> (if it's a debit card, hotels usually put a couple hundred dollar hold)
[23:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: Will they take my bank card?
[23:56] <bkerensa> oh ok :)
[23:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: How does that work with rooms being paired?
[23:56] <pleia2> I always forget about this, someone always ends up having a problem as a result
[23:56]  * philipballew survives school caf food and late night dumpster dives
[23:57] <pleia2> bkerensa: most people are pretty honest, you should talk to canonical about expenses if your roomie eats the whole room bar and skips out on the bill
[23:58] <pleia2> bkerensa: don't quote me on $30 :) it may be $27 or $25 or something
[23:58] <philipballew> shoot, thats a nice amount
[23:58] <pleia2> dinner in cities is expensive
[23:58] <bkerensa> pleia2: No I was just wondering since rooms are paired as in shared does just one person need to have a credit card or both?
[23:58] <pleia2> bkerensa: both
[23:58] <bkerensa> ok
[23:59] <philipballew> i only have a debit card with like 50 bucks on it pleia2  :)
[23:59] <bkerensa> Well I have a Chase MasterCard Debit Card so I can try to sort out having an additional two hundred plus money for my expenses
[23:59] <pleia2> philipballew: you should mention that to the sponsorship person, they can help if needed