/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/09/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

ChinnoDogNo more MutantTurkey00:19
ChinnoDogmust be free range turkey00:20
rmg51he's just hiding until after dinner00:24
InHisNameMutantChimiChanga ?02:49
rmg51Morning10:57
JonathanDMorning.10:58
adomi swear to god im reformatting and reinstalling this server just because twirssi won't work and i hate cpan15:44
ChinnoDogSwearing to god won't help. He only runs Windows.15:46
waltmanseems kinda harsh15:53
waltmancpan is your friend15:53
ChinnoDogI try to use the Ubuntu packages instead of cpan when I can but I've used cpan for unpackaged modules. Seems like having both install methods is dangerous.15:55
waltmanApp::cpanminus and App::cpanoutdated can make dealing with it a lot less painful.15:55
waltmanChinnoDog: Agreed. If you're not installing your own perl, that's often the best bet.15:58
waltmanwith the caveat that both the system perl and the modules might not be the latest and greatest.15:58
ChinnoDogwaltman: can cpan be trusted to uninstall modules cleanly?16:12
waltmannot so much, sadly, but with most modules you can run "make uninstall"16:16
waltmanthere's often not much need to uninstall modules, aside from cpan thinking they're out of date and wanting to upgrade them16:17
waltmanI realize those aren't great answers, but that's the situation.16:18
ChinnoDogSeems like the best solution would be for someone to write a cpan wrapper that will install modules with checkinstall and then not bother with the repository packages16:19
ChinnoDogThen you can have latest and greatest and still be sure it can be removed16:20
ChinnoDogsup MutantTurkey16:50
MutantTurkeysup16:57
InHisNamesupper will be up soon17:35
MutantTurkeystill in bed17:51
MutantTurkeycatching up on much needed sleep17:51
waltmanturkeys are nocturnal hunters17:52
MutantTurkeynoctural? i cat stay up past like 1118:22
ChinnoDogoh no. MutantTurkey, are you a morning person?18:25
MutantTurkeyno...18:26
MutantTurkeyim a teenager18:26
MutantTurkeygigging tonight and we're supposed to be practcing right now and my guitar player is nowhere to be seen18:30
ChinnoDogWhen I was a teenager I stayed up to all hours of the night18:34
ChinnoDogsleeping was optional18:34
MutantTurkeyyeah I am a growing boy - i need my sleep18:37
ChinnoDogThe standard test for determining how sleep deprived you are doesn't work on teenagers because it always shows they are fully rested even when they aren't.18:38
jedijflike a power meter?18:39
jedijfs/power/battery18:40
adomi hate when i wake up at 6:30am fully refreshed but its an hour too early to get ready. so i sleep for another hour and an hour later its so hard to get out of bed for some reason.18:41
adomlike, i was fine, but sleep for another hour and i dont want to get up now.18:41
* jedijf nods18:42
ChinnoDogyea, that is difficult adom. I do that too.18:44
ChinnoDogThere is a watch you can get that will monitor your sleep cycle and wake you up when you naturally wake up closest to your alarm time. I've never tried it though.18:44
adomsounds cool18:44
waltmanToday's "kids these days" story involves trying to borrow a pencil from someone.18:45
ChinnoDogjedijf: it isn't a power meter. The stnadard test is to put someone in a dark soundless room and see how many minutes it takes for them to fall to sleep. The scale goes up to 20 minutes.18:45
ChinnoDogwaltman: So.. uh... did it work out?18:45
waltmanno fair. teenages can sleep anywhere.18:45
adomsomeone tell me a command-line file manager. something that visually lets me see/move around files via an SSH session.18:46
MutantTurkeyls rm cp rsync..18:46
MutantTurkeymc18:46
waltmanChinnoDog: Not so well with the kid who's the junion sysadmin. I had to go to the department secretary.18:46
ChinnoDoghaha18:46
ChinnoDogAt work I wanted a pencil recently18:47
waltmanadom: or run your favoriate gui file manager in an SSH tunnel18:47
MutantTurkeywaltman: it doesnt work so wel....18:47
ChinnoDogSo I went to the supply closet and I dug and there were no mechanical pencils. There was some lead though. There were also some regular pencils so I picked one up18:47
jedijfsshfs18:47
ChinnoDogBut, there weren't any pencil sharpeners18:47
waltmanMutantTurkey: why not?18:47
MutantTurkeyoh duh :p18:47
MutantTurkeyI thought you were saying X11 over ssh...18:47
MutantTurkeyhehe18:47
ChinnoDogSo I had no choice but to get out my swiss army knife and whittle a tip onto my pencil18:47
MutantTurkeynevermind me18:47
waltmanno, tunneling your current x session18:48
ChinnoDogNo one stocks the supply closet with mechanical pencils or sharpeners. I don't think there are any there now, months later18:48
waltmanChinnoDog++ # old school18:48
jedijfkarma and hastag18:49
jedijfhash18:49
adommc is perfect thanks18:49
ChinnoDogMy pencil is very rustic looking18:49
jedijfi have 2 electric sharpeners and no pencils in office18:50
ChinnoDogha. You had pencils once upon a time18:51
ChinnoDogI should get one of those crank operated pencil sharpeners like at school and attach it to my desk at work as a joke18:51
waltmanI've got one of those at home. It doesn't work very well.19:06
waltmanBut I mainly just use pencils for crossword puzzles. For a while I tried switching back to wood pencils. They spell better, but mechanical pencils are a lot more practical.19:07
waltmans/spell/smell/ # hah19:07
ChinnoDogfreudian slip19:14
ChinnoDogMaybe they spell better too.19:14
ChinnoDogIn school I used to buy "natural" pencils that didn't have any paint on them.19:15
ChinnoDogThey were cool. Wood grain pencils ftw.19:15
adomin mc, what do you press to transfer the highlighted file/folder in the left pane to the right folder?20:26
adomnvm found the hotkeys on bottom20:27
adomi like it, its kind of like nano20:27
adomwhich is to say, its noob-friendly ^_^20:27
adom<-- newb20:27
adomso, i think my 1TB backup drive at home i use for general backup/storage is crapping the bed20:58
adomi keep tryign to remount it and it says "can't read superblock"20:58
adomwhich sucks because its where i keep ALL of my spare files. software, games, pictures, etc21:01
adomeverything but video21:02
adomvideo gets its own 1TB drive, and thats working fine21:02
adom if anyone has any experience with that "can't read superblock" error mounting drives and has somehting i could try to resurrect it, id be much obliged. might check in over the weekend, prob not til monday. happy weekend all!21:06
waltmanadom: Sucks. But it's a *backup*, right? So you have other copies of those files? :)21:35
ChinnoDog"spare" files22:01
waltman"backups"22:06
ChinnoDoghehe22:08
waltmanJust some spare pictures. Nothing important.22:08
ChinnoDogIt only took 10 years to capture them and you can't get them back, but its not a big deal.22:09
jedijfdigital hoarders22:17
jedijfadom: should be fixable - google will guide you22:24
jedijfsuperblock backs itself up; doesn't trust us22:26

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