[00:56] <cjohnston> i hate theming stuff
[13:14] <cjohnston> daker: ping
[15:30] <daker> cjohnston, pong
[15:31] <cjohnston> daker: got any plans today? maybe able to help me out with moving summit to the new guidelines? I got CSS from Canonical.. then after that's done, LTP should be easy
[15:31] <daker> sure
[15:31] <daker> tonight ツ
[15:32] <cjohnston> ok..
[15:32] <cjohnston> ping me when your available
[15:46] <daker> sure ツ
[19:09] <Amoz> cjohnston: as I said, I'm not experienced with Django, but I
[19:09] <Amoz> I'd love to learn
[19:09] <cjohnston> Amoz: thats fine..
[19:10] <cjohnston> I started learning django by fixing a copyright date
[19:10] <cjohnston> :-)
[19:10] <Amoz> lol
[19:10] <cjohnston> are you good with CSS?
[19:10] <cjohnston> and can read code
[19:10] <Amoz> I'd say I'm quite knowledgable
[19:10] <Amoz> depends what kind of code
[19:10] <Amoz> ASM, no
[19:10] <Amoz> Java, C, PHP, Python etc. yes
[19:11] <cjohnston> We need to update our CSS to fit the new guidelines..
[19:11] <Amoz> yeah I helped holbach with the packaging guide
[19:11] <cjohnston> I was sent a couple CSS files as well as a template, and I'm trying to basically merge them together
[19:11] <Amoz> which website are you reffering to?
[19:12] <cjohnston> I'm currently working on summit.ubuntu.com
[19:12] <cjohnston> the theme changes will then be pushed to loco.ubuntu.com
[19:13] <Amoz> aha
[19:13] <Amoz> so basically the summit.u.c should have the new design
[19:13] <cjohnston> and im horrible at css
[19:13] <cjohnston> yes
[19:13] <cjohnston> I've gotten it part of the way there
[19:14] <Amoz> got a branch somewhere?
[19:14] <cjohnston> and I'm taking a little break to do some stuff at the house
[19:14] <cjohnston> i can
[19:14] <cjohnston> few sec
[19:14] <cjohnston> s
[19:15] <cjohnston> the problem is that all of our django sites use the same theme... so the CSS they provided me doesn't use the same names and such as ours do... so I can't just replace
[19:15] <Amoz> the best thing imho
[19:15] <Amoz> would be to port the actual django themes
[19:15] <Amoz> not the css
[19:15] <Amoz> because then we could hopefully use the same css, more or les
[19:15] <cjohnston> We would be talking atleast 3 sites
[19:16] <Amoz> which ones? :)
[19:16] <cjohnston> and then the next time that the theme guidelines change, if they use different names we would be doing it again
[19:16] <cjohnston> those two
[19:17] <cjohnston> Jono's accomplishments
[19:17] <cjohnston> and I dont know what else
[19:18] <Amoz> still, I'd prefer to port the html-themes rather than the css I guess
[19:18] <Amoz> but I'm not sure
[19:18] <cjohnston> I think I'm between 1/3 and 1/2 the way done with porting the css
[19:18] <Amoz> oh, that's too bad :(
[19:19] <cjohnston> lol
[19:19] <Amoz> I don't want to waste your work though
[19:19] <Amoz> but you'd still need to port the css for the other websites right?
[19:19] <cjohnston> no.. they would just need to check out the new theme and be (almost) done
[19:19] <cjohnston> so far I've had to make 2 html changes
[19:20] <Amoz> I must be misunderstanding
[19:20] <cjohnston> all of the django sites use one theme branch
[19:20] <Amoz> show me the source :)
[19:20] <Amoz> ah
[19:20] <Amoz> I see
[19:21] <cjohnston> so if we update the theme branch, all the sites will (hopefully) work
[19:21] <Amoz> wow
[19:21] <Amoz> didn't know everyone used the same theme
[19:21] <Amoz> is that possible?
[19:21] <cjohnston> yup
[19:21] <Amoz> even if they need different pages etc.
[19:21] <cjohnston> the wonder of django
[19:22] <Amoz> I'll have a look then
[19:22] <cjohnston> we have a django theme, a wordpress theme, an html theme, and a drupal theme
[19:22] <Amoz> cool
[19:22] <Amoz> quite a lot of things to do here I suppose
[19:22] <Amoz> django, PHP, css/html etc.
[19:23] <cjohnston> so lp:ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-django-theme is the theme
[19:23] <Amoz> recognize that one
[19:23] <cjohnston> this is what ive done: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/update-to-new-web-guidelines
[19:24] <Amoz> cool
[19:24] <Amoz> is there a source for the websites somewhere?
[19:24] <cjohnston> Amoz: like I said, I've had to make 2 changes to the lp:summit branch to work with this, but other than that, its all been in the light-django-theme branch
[19:24] <Amoz> or can I try out the themes somehow?
[19:24] <cjohnston> lp:summit
[19:25] <Amoz> ah
[19:25] <Amoz> great
[19:25] <cjohnston> if you want I can help you setup summit so that you can make it all blow up
[19:25] <cjohnston> i mean, take a look
[19:25] <cjohnston> lol
[19:25] <Amoz> huh?
[19:25] <Amoz> it's django, right?
[19:25] <cjohnston> yup
[19:25] <Amoz> isn't there a builtin webserver?
[19:26] <cjohnston> yes.. but you have to get the environment working
[19:26] <Amoz> ah
[19:26] <Amoz> I'll tell you if I need help
[19:26] <cjohnston> basically bzr branch lp:summit
[19:26] <Amoz> I'll just have a look
[19:26] <cjohnston> http://summit.readthedocs.org
[19:26] <cjohnston> and that will point you in the right direction
[19:30] <Amoz> hmm, br
[19:30] <Amoz> brb
[19:37] <cjohnston> Amoz: whats your email and I'll forward you the CSS I was given
[19:38] <Amoz> cjohnston: fougner89@gmail.com
[19:38] <cjohnston> you should have it
[19:39] <Amoz> cjohnston: thanks. So basically I should just install virtualenv etc.
[19:40] <cjohnston> yes
[19:52] <Amoz> oh
[19:52] <Amoz> there was an make target for that
[19:53] <cjohnston> the Make doesn't always play well
[19:53] <cjohnston> and when you do make you have to do it every time, doing the virtualenv you only have to set it up once
[19:54] <cjohnston> Amoz: give me a second and I'll give you a db so you dont have to make data
[19:54] <Amoz> oh
[19:54] <Amoz> thanks
[19:55] <cjohnston> Amoz: http://ubuntuone.com/5Pja6HyyFdOuLCuFCLaGl5
[19:55] <cjohnston> if you need admin access, admin/password
[19:55] <Amoz> ok
[19:56] <Amoz> I copied the local_settings.py
[19:56] <cjohnston> good
[19:56] <Amoz> do I need to pull themes?
[19:56] <cjohnston> yes..
[19:56] <Amoz> hmm
[19:56] <cjohnston> ./manage.py migrate
[19:56] <cjohnston> ./manage.py init-summit
[19:56] <Amoz> this is tedious work
[19:56] <cjohnston> ./manage.py pullapps
[19:56] <Amoz> http://summit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installing.html#grab-the-source
[19:56] <Amoz> but I only have to follow that one
[19:56] <Amoz> right?
[19:57] <cjohnston> correct
[19:57] <Amoz> good
[19:57] <cjohnston> pullapps will download the themes
[19:57] <Amoz> where to put the db?
[19:58] <Amoz> I shouldn't syncdb ?
[19:58] <cjohnston> put the db in /summit/
[19:58] <cjohnston> you dont need to syncdb, its new enough..
[19:58] <cjohnston> probably wont even need to migrate
[19:58] <Amoz> but it won't hurt if I do any of them?
[19:58] <cjohnston> nope
[20:00] <Amoz> hmm, need to adjust settings?
[20:00] <cjohnston> shouldnt
[20:00] <cjohnston> whats wrong
[20:01] <Amoz> 'Settings' object has no attribute 'THEME_MEDIA'
[20:01] <cjohnston> ahh..
[20:01] <cjohnston> ./manage.py runserver no longer works.
[20:01] <cjohnston> as of yesterday
[20:01] <Amoz> lol
[20:01] <cjohnston> I havent updated the docs
[20:01] <Amoz> you broke it didn't you!
[20:01] <Amoz> aaw you
[20:01] <cjohnston> python manage.py runserver --settings ubuntu_server
[20:01] <cjohnston> python manage.py runserver --settings ubuntu_settings
[20:01] <cjohnston> no
[20:01] <cjohnston> didnt break it
[20:01] <Amoz> j/k
[20:02] <cjohnston> we seperated it into two different sites, so you have to define what site
[20:02] <Amoz> aha
[20:03] <Amoz> so, which one should I run?
[20:03] <cjohnston> ubuntu_settings ^^
[20:03] <cjohnston> ubuntu_server was a typo
[20:03] <Amoz> ah
[20:03] <Amoz> :D
[20:03] <Amoz> lol
[20:03] <Amoz> another error
[20:04] <Amoz> list index out of range
[20:04] <cjohnston> yup..
[20:04] <cjohnston> one sec.. let me get you a newer db
[20:04] <Amoz> great
[20:04] <cjohnston> sorry
[20:04] <cjohnston> didnt put the menu stuff in there yet
[20:05] <cjohnston> http://ubuntuone.com/5Pja6HyyFdOuLCuFCLaGl5
[20:05] <cjohnston> try that
[20:06] <Amoz> hm
[20:06] <Amoz> syncdb is req I suppose
[20:06] <Amoz> Error: no module named south
[20:06] <cjohnston> are you in your virtualenv
[20:07] <Amoz> oh sorry
[20:07] <Amoz> all terminals
[20:07] <Amoz> I can do workon in multiple shells right?
[20:07] <cjohnston> yes
[20:10] <Amoz> uhm, still the same error
[20:10] <cjohnston> Amoz: where are you from
[20:10] <Amoz> after syncdb and migrate
[20:10] <cjohnston> the list error?
[20:10] <Amoz> yeha
[20:10] <Amoz> Sweden
[20:10] <Amoz> why?
[20:11] <cjohnston> curious.. like to know where the people I work with are located
[20:11] <cjohnston> so I can be jealous
[20:11] <Amoz> ahaha
[20:11] <Amoz> nothing to be jealous about
[20:11] <Amoz> you're from the US I suppose?
[20:11] <cjohnston> Florida.. yes
[20:11] <Amoz> aww
[20:11] <cjohnston> I'm jealous of anything that isn't here
[20:11] <Amoz> now I'M ealous
[20:11] <Amoz> jealous*
[20:12] <cjohnston> why
[20:12] <Amoz> it's wonderful there
[20:12] <cjohnston> theres nothing here to be jealous about
[20:12] <Amoz> where in FL?
[20:12] <Amoz> o yes it is
[20:12] <Amoz> beaches <3
[20:12] <Amoz> summer all year
[20:12] <cjohnston> Orlando
[20:12] <Amoz> I've been there
[20:12] <cjohnston> cool
[20:12] <Amoz> it's not as humid as Ft. Lauderdale right?
[20:12] <cjohnston> its all 100% all the time
[20:12] <Amoz> oh
[20:13] <Amoz> it was 14 yrs ago so..
[20:13] <Amoz> can't remember everything
[20:13] <cjohnston> Amoz: try this one: I just varified that it works: http://ubuntuone.com/4T5jdYPnbKKR2b541lnVDM
[20:13] <cjohnston> sorry
[20:13] <Amoz> sorry?
[20:13] <cjohnston> for giving you bad db's
[20:14] <Amoz> hah
[20:14] <cjohnston> that one really should work
[20:14] <cjohnston> or I'm going to bed
[20:14] <cjohnston> lol
[20:14] <Amoz> it's just 3.20PM there ?
[20:14] <cjohnston> uh huh
[20:14] <Amoz> is that "yes" or "no" ?
[20:15] <Amoz> :P
[20:15] <cjohnston> yes
[20:15] <Amoz> I remember FL having geckos in the street
[20:15] <Amoz> that was sooo weird
[20:16] <Amoz> works!
[20:16] <Amoz> thanks!
[20:16] <cjohnston> yippie
[20:18] <cjohnston> did you merge my branch into ubuntu_website?
[20:18] <Amoz> nope, haven't gotten that far yet
[20:18] <cjohnston> ok
[20:19] <cjohnston> and im pusing right now the change to the summit branch
[20:19] <Amoz> great
[20:19] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/new-web-guidelines-changes
[20:20] <Amoz> so what do you do there in Orlando? if you don't mind me asking :)
[20:21] <cjohnston> I assume you are referring to job?
[20:21] <Amoz> yep
[20:21] <cjohnston> I am a Firefighter paramedic
[20:21] <cjohnston> I work at a dive shop
[20:22] <cjohnston> and I'm getting ready to start a contract gig doing web work
[20:22] <Amoz> paramedics work at dive shops?
[20:22] <Amoz> or that's extra?
[20:22] <cjohnston> not related
[20:22] <cjohnston> extra
[20:22] <Amoz> ah
[20:22] <cjohnston> part time job
[20:23] <Amoz> so you work as a paramedic AND in a dive shop
[20:23] <cjohnston> yes
[20:23] <Amoz> wow
[20:23] <cjohnston> and in 2 weeks the new job
[20:23] <Amoz> web stuff?
[20:23] <cjohnston> django/python stuff
[20:24] <Amoz> ah, you must be quite good then :D
[20:24] <cjohnston> i dunno about all that
[20:24] <cjohnston> I still have trouble regularly
[20:24] <Amoz> with what?
[20:24] <cjohnston> python
[20:24] <Amoz> ah
[20:25] <Amoz> not alligators? =P
[20:25] <cjohnston> our guru took the day off today... but mhall119 is the man when it comes to all of this
[20:25] <cjohnston> alligators are good eatin
[20:25] <Amoz> you tasted ?
[20:25] <cjohnston> of course
[20:25] <Amoz> yeah of course ^^
[20:26] <Amoz> been to Everglades as well, no?
[20:26] <Amoz> that's where I tasted it
[20:26] <cjohnston> not to, no.. but ive been down that way
[20:26] <Amoz> oh ok
[20:27] <Amoz> hm, your guru?
[20:27] <cjohnston> He's the guy I go to for help
[20:27] <Amoz> not an ubuntu guy ?
[20:27] <cjohnston> mhall119 works for Canonical
[20:28] <Amoz> oh, guru = mhall119
[20:28] <Amoz> I thought you were referring to two different ppl
[20:30] <Amoz> so your branch should be merged to summit/summit/ubuntu_website ?
[20:30] <cjohnston> there are two
[20:31] <cjohnston> the ubuntu-community-webthemes one into ubuntu_website
[20:31] <cjohnston> the summit one into summit
[20:32] <Amoz> uh..
[20:32] <cjohnston> ya
[20:33] <Amoz> u-c-webthemes is  light-django-theme ?
[20:34] <cjohnston> its ubuntu-communtiy-webthemes/light-django-theme
[20:34] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/update-to-new-web-guidelines   will go into ubuntu_website
[20:36] <Amoz> so bzr merge lp:repo summit/summit/ubuntu_website
[20:36] <Amoz> kind of
[20:37] <Amoz> I'll just try instead of asking you stupid questions =)
[20:37] <cjohnston> nope
[20:37] <cjohnston> cd summit/summit/ubuntu_website
[20:37] <cjohnston> bzr merge lp:~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/update-to-new-web-guidelines
[20:37] <cjohnston> then
[20:37] <cjohnston> cd ..
[20:38] <cjohnston> bzr merge lp:~chrisjohnston/summit/new-web-guidelines-changes
[20:38] <Amoz> cjohnston: thank you for holding up
[20:39] <cjohnston> :-)
[20:40] <Amoz> ah
[20:40] <Amoz> you didn't do anything else than modifying the base.html?
[20:41] <cjohnston> in the summit branch, no
[20:41] <Amoz> ah, the rest is in light-django-theme
[20:41] <cjohnston> yes
[20:41] <cjohnston> there are some other changes that will need to be done in summit, but not a big deal..
[20:49] <Amoz> cjohnston: so... now I'm ready to code, in the ubuntu_website dir, right?
[20:49] <cjohnston> Amoz: yes
[20:49] <Amoz> great
[20:49] <cjohnston> summit is using website_base.html
[20:50] <cjohnston> and then if you need to change something on the pages just tell me what you need and i can tell you where to find it
[20:50] <cjohnston> an example is we didnt used to use ul and li for the menus but i had to change that
[20:54] <Amoz> aha
[21:10] <Amoz> cjohnston: is there a reference design somewhere?
[21:10] <Amoz> the css you mailed me?
[21:10] <cjohnston> the css
[21:11] <cjohnston> design.ubuntu.com has some stuff
[21:12] <Amoz> hmm, doesn't look the way I pictured it
[21:13] <cjohnston> whats that
[21:13] <Amoz> http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[21:13] <Amoz> isnt that the new design?
[21:13] <cjohnston> no
[21:13] <cjohnston> uds.ubuntu.com is
[21:13] <cjohnston> it was just released two days ago
[21:15] <Amoz> great, now I have some refs
[21:15] <cjohnston> Amoz: that html file in the .zip i forwarded as well
[21:19] <Amoz> yeah I looked at it
[21:23] <Amoz> cjohnston: gotta go for tonight, thanks for the help
[21:23] <cjohnston> ok.. you going to be able to look at it over the weekend?
[21:23] <Amoz> hopefully yes
[21:24] <cjohnston> ok..
[21:24] <Amoz> still me thinks it's harder to port css-code than the html part
[21:24] <cjohnston> sounds good.. let me know if you need help
[21:24] <cjohnston> have a good night and thanks for being willing to help
[21:24] <Amoz> is there a reason why you don't want to change all the html instead of the css?
[21:25] <cjohnston> too many projects to change, like I said
[21:27] <Amoz> so, there a lot of different projects with different html templates, that's why you want the css ported instead ?
[21:27] <cjohnston> correct.
[21:27] <Amoz> I see
[21:29] <Amoz> well then, goodnight ^^
[21:30] <cjohnston> g'nite
[21:43] <AlanBell> does summit work with postgres 9.1?
[21:46] <cjohnston> AlanBell: not sure..
[21:46] <AlanBell> fair enough, I will tell you later then :)
[21:47] <cjohnston> sounds good
[21:47] <cjohnston> lol
[22:22]  * AlanBell adds THEME_MEDIA = ubuntu_website.MEDIA_ROOT to localsettings.py
[22:23] <AlanBell> hmm, no
[22:24] <AlanBell> ok, something needs to be done with ubuntu_settings.py but I am not sure what
[22:24] <AlanBell> 'Settings' object has no attribute 'THEME_MEDIA' is the error I get from the server when running it
[22:26] <AlanBell> there is something not right in the installation instructions, not sure how the linaro and ubuntu themes are set up
[22:31] <cprofitt> hey Pendulum
[22:31] <cprofitt> hey bobweaver
[22:37] <AlanBell> ok, well I think I have summit nearly installed, but I don't know how to do a valid localsettings.py just copying localsettings.py.sample doesn't seem right
[22:38] <AlanBell> suggestions would be great, I am done for the night o/
[23:04] <Amoz> AlanBell: I had the same error, cjohnston helped me
[23:05] <Amoz> AlanBell: now I remember, run this instead of just runserver
[23:05] <cjohnston> AlanBell: pyton manage.py runserver --settings ubuntu_settings
[23:06] <Amoz> oh you
[23:06] <Amoz> beat me to it
[23:06] <Amoz> one second away from pasting it
[23:06] <cjohnston> fix my spelling errors tho
[23:06] <Amoz>  python manage.py runserver --settings ubuntu_settings
[23:06] <Amoz> there AlanBell
[23:07] <cjohnston> Amoz: can you post him a link to the db I gave you please?
[23:07] <cjohnston> the last one
[23:07] <Amoz> AlanBell: http://ubuntuone.com/4T5jdYPnbKKR2b541lnVDM
[23:18] <AlanBell> wohoo
[23:18]  * AlanBell has a working summit, thanks all
[23:18] <AlanBell> the installation instructions could do with a bit more followability, I will try and update them
[23:24] <Amoz> cjohnston: hm, how did you begin the porting for the css? you're still on the old css but importing piece by piece from the new design?
[23:24] <mars> newz2000, I moved the .wsgi file into apache/wsgi.  Check apacha/ubuntu for the vhost setup.
[23:25] <cjohnston> yes
[23:37] <Amoz> cjohnston: you haven't linked the core-grid.css etc. ?
[23:38] <cjohnston> Amoz: no, I was just pulling it into default.css
[23:40] <Amoz> cjohnston: weird.. I can't find .clearfix in default.css
[23:40] <Amoz> it's in core-grid.css
[23:40] <cjohnston> right
[23:40] <cjohnston> its in core-grid
[23:40] <cjohnston> i hadnt gotten that far
[23:41] <cjohnston> I did more than half of the main core file, and started on one of the others
[23:42] <cjohnston> if you want to start fresh from ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-django-themes and port the css yourself thats fine..
[23:42] <cjohnston> I find it really annoying that the current css has the same things in multiple areas
[23:42] <Amoz> yeah I'll try to begin from a fresh set I think
[23:43] <Amoz> hard to keep track of what's already done by you, and what's not :)
[23:43] <Amoz> I'll check it out tomorrow
[23:43] <Amoz> it's past midnight here, so...
[23:43] <Amoz> g'night.. for real
[23:43] <Amoz> cjohnston: thanks again
[23:43] <Amoz> bye!
[23:44] <cjohnston> lol
[23:44] <cjohnston> g'nite