| nuvolari | what's wrong with a developer if he/she does'nt use IRC? | 04:23 |
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| nuvolari | :P | 04:23 |
| magespawn_ | morning all, have good friday y'all | 06:02 |
| magespawn | good morning again | 06:10 |
| nlsthzn | :) morning magespawn ... | 06:12 |
| sakhi | Morning | 06:22 |
| nlsthzn | o/ sakhi | 06:24 |
| magespawn | hey hey its friday | 06:27 |
| nlsthzn | friday, friday... got to het down on friday... | 06:31 |
| nlsthzn | *get | 06:31 |
| magespawn | indeed | 06:31 |
| superfly | Formal Friday | 06:43 |
| magespawn | frisky friday | 06:43 |
| superfly | if only :-P | 06:44 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 06:44 |
| magespawn | i just got superglue on my tongue | 06:46 |
| superfly | magespawn: don't press your tongue against the roof of your moust! | 06:46 |
| superfly | *mouth | 06:47 |
| magespawn | people might think it rude if i walk aroung with my tongue out | 06:47 |
| nlsthzn | in this case I would rather be rude | 06:48 |
| magespawn | good point | 06:49 |
| superfly | yeah, ditto | 06:49 |
| magespawn | just for the record it does not taste good | 06:50 |
| nlsthzn | I don't think it is supposed too... | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hi superfly magespawn inetpro nlsthzn nuvolari Squirm Owkkuri plustwo and others | 06:54 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:54 |
| nlsthzn | Morning uncle Kilos | 06:54 |
| Kilos | sigh still no maaz | 06:54 |
| superfly | môre oom Kilos | 06:54 |
| plustwo | good morning Kilos | 06:54 |
| inetpro | goeie more Kilos | 06:55 |
| inetpro | en goeie more aan al die ander | 06:55 |
| Kilos | hi drussell hows the weather in the UK | 06:55 |
| Kilos | where is the the crash kid? | 06:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: iewers in die amerikaanse state? | 06:56 |
| Kilos | eish | 06:56 |
| magespawn | hi kilos | 06:57 |
| Kilos | hmmm | 06:57 |
| magespawn | who is in charge/owns Maaz? | 06:57 |
| Kilos | is daar nie iemand wat saam met hom werk nie? | 06:57 |
| Kilos | cocooncrash, is the bots boss | 06:57 |
| Kilos | i seem to remember there was someone with him at work | 06:58 |
| inetpro | magespawn: as far as I'm aware cocooncrash is hosting it on his private box | 06:58 |
| magespawn | how do you set up a bot? anybody know where i can start looking? | 06:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn, get ibid | 06:59 |
| Kilos | and inetpro knows how to set it up | 06:59 |
| inetpro | http://ibid.omnia.za.net/ | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:59 |
| inetpro | or https://launchpad.net/ibid | 07:00 |
| magespawn | ty will have a look | 07:00 |
| Kilos | and you can call it botspawn | 07:00 |
| Kilos | or magespawn | 07:00 |
| Kilos | who works in the same offices as cocooncrash ? | 07:01 |
| Kilos | dont all answer at once | 07:01 |
| nlsthzn | I don't | 07:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:01 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 07:01 |
| drussell | Kilos: not too bad at all, a little chilly, 8 degrees c right now and a little overcast, but it's dry :o) | 07:02 |
| drussell | Kilos: how about where you are? | 07:02 |
| Kilos | drussell, sunny and hot and not enough rain in transvaal | 07:02 |
| Kilos | you dunno about the compose key drussell ? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | dont believe that | 07:03 |
| Kilos | compose key 2xo gives you the ° | 07:04 |
| magespawn | okay but where do you see that on the keyboard? | 07:07 |
| magespawn | xo | 07:07 |
| Kilos | oh you have to make it magespawn | 07:07 |
| magespawn | ahh right | 07:07 |
| Kilos | not xo man two times o | 07:07 |
| magespawn | lol | 07:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:08 |
| Kilos | i see if i can find how | 07:08 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, told me long ago | 07:08 |
| magespawn | will search on the net | 07:08 |
| Kilos | no its on your pc | 07:08 |
| magespawn | no for the way to do it | 07:09 |
| Kilos | system prefs keyboard | 07:09 |
| Kilos | then | 07:09 |
| magespawn | apparenlty you assign it in the system to one of the key/s | 07:09 |
| Kilos | layouts | 07:09 |
| Kilos | then tick the compose key pointer | 07:10 |
| Kilos | then set which key you want | 07:10 |
| Kilos | i use left winsucks key | 07:10 |
| magespawn | lol might as well put it to use | 07:11 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:11 |
| drussell | Kilos: hehe yeah, I use it so rarely I forget :o) | 07:11 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:11 |
| magespawn | ° | 07:12 |
| magespawn | cool ty | 07:12 |
| Kilos | yw | 07:12 |
| inetpro | hmm... compose and o gives me ö | 07:13 |
| inetpro | with a South African keyboard layout | 07:14 |
| magespawn | ibd is written in python, i am trying to learn python so this should be a good thing to look at | 07:14 |
| superfly | http://ibid.omnia.za.net/docs/0.1.0/index.html | 07:14 |
| superfly | real easy to set up and use | 07:14 |
| magespawn | ill have a look later busy putting an inkjet back together | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 07:31 |
| morgs | mornings | 07:31 |
| superfly | morning morgs | 07:35 |
| morgs | hi superfly | 07:36 |
| magespawn | right work desk net and tidy and printer back in one piece and working | 08:06 |
| Kilos | yay | 08:06 |
| magespawn | that for sure | 08:10 |
| magespawn | new tech from ibm can move data at 1 trillion bits a second | 08:11 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:12 |
| magespawn | kind of makes password a little redundant | 08:13 |
| nlsthzn | but move it where? | 08:14 |
| magespawn | article on ars technica, for communicating between chips on servers , i think , will try to find the article | 08:16 |
| magespawn | this is from mashable mashable.com/2012/03/08/ibm-fast-optical-chip | 08:18 |
| magespawn | they are also apparently working on a quantum computer | 08:19 |
| magespawn | and apparently you can now log into yahoo mail with your gmail id from LTG | 08:24 |
| nlsthzn | ah | 08:24 |
| inetpro | hello morgs | 08:24 |
| morgs | hi inetpro | 08:24 |
| inetpro | you are far to quiet these days | 08:25 |
| morgs | yeah... | 08:25 |
| * morgs triages bugs on a big client project | 08:25 | |
| magespawn | oohh that sounds like fun | 08:25 |
| morgs | Rats, I've got two servers in Kenya which were installed with Ubuntu 10.10 instead of 10.04 LTS. Going to be a bummer fixing that and 10.10 is being EOLed soon | 08:26 |
| Kilos | sigh , no maaz so cant define triages | 08:26 |
| morgs | Basically sorting tickets into priority and due date etc | 08:26 |
| magespawn | looks at the bug and sorts them by priority | 08:27 |
| magespawn | lol | 08:27 |
| Kilos | morgs, try keep 10.10 alive so i can keep using it too | 08:27 |
| Kilos | maverick rocks | 08:28 |
| morgs | yeah, well, here's hoping precise is more stable on the desktop | 08:29 |
| * inetpro likes The Governator's latest posting about Government use of Ubuntu | 08:29 | |
| morgs | on the server it's more the support period that matters | 08:29 |
| morgs | inetpro: URL? | 08:29 |
| inetpro | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1056 | 08:30 |
| Kilos | inetpro, whats he say? | 08:30 |
| nlsthzn | I has a lol at the email addy :p governator | 08:30 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:30 |
| morgs | oh that governator | 08:30 |
| inetpro | clearly Ubuntu is moving forward in big places | 08:30 |
| morgs | Ah now I see the reference | 08:31 |
| morgs | "A European defence force has recently adopted Ubuntu widely as part of an agility-enhancing strategy that gives soldiers and office workers secure desktop capabilities from remote locations like… home, or out in the field." | 08:33 |
| morgs | Squad, we're deploying at oh six hundred zulu time. Remember to do your dist-upgrades in advance! | 08:34 |
| magespawn | ha | 08:34 |
| magespawn | did you see the French airforce was grounded because of a windows virus? | 08:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:35 |
| magespawn | they could not load the flight maps from the ground computers into the planes, an unpatched windows bug allowed the malware in | 08:36 |
| morgs | wow | 08:36 |
| magespawn | this looks neat mahable.com/2012/03/05/recoil-winder-kickstarter | 08:38 |
| magespawn | to fair the patch was available they had just no applied it | 08:53 |
| magespawn | ^be ^not | 08:55 |
| inetpro | morgs: I guess we need IPMI to come standard with all servers these days so you can do a complete remote installation | 08:55 |
| inetpro | IPMI = Intelligent Platform Management Interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface | 08:56 |
| morgs | inetpro: yeah, we do use DRAC for Dell or iLO for HP which lets you do remote console/installations, but we do not have it on all servers - clients are sometimes too cheap to pay for this | 08:57 |
| inetpro | nice | 08:57 |
| morgs | It does let you do a remote installation, even upload ISO images to a virtual CD drive, although that gets uploaded from your workstation (e.g. laptop on ADSL) and is slow if you're tunnelling over stuff to get to a remote data centre. | 08:58 |
| magespawn | does that not end up costing more at the end of tha day, not having that ability | 08:58 |
| morgs | magespawn: yes it does, just not on the initial budget... | 08:58 |
| morgs | Anyway, the worth of features like this get proven when you really need them... | 08:59 |
| magespawn | what si that sevice from cannonical? would tha work | 08:59 |
| morgs | We've got one client who manages the network while we manage the servers. They reallocated the IP addresses for the iLO consoles without telling us, then when a server went down we couldn't reboot it remotely - that's another painful scenario | 09:00 |
| magespawn | communication is important | 09:00 |
| magespawn | landscape | 09:02 |
| Kilos | bbl | 09:20 |
| inetpro | magespawn: no, communication is key | 09:46 |
| magespawn | indeed | 10:06 |
| morgs | landscape is great, but very expensive. Too expensive for our current hosting model which has lots of small VPSs | 10:14 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 13:09 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 13:09 |
| inetpro | Maaz: Is it Friday yet? | 13:10 |
| nlsthzn | yup, maaz left early | 13:11 |
| inetpro | heh nlsthzn, How goes? | 13:12 |
| magespawn | maaaz has taken and extended leave of absence | 13:12 |
| magespawn | an | 13:13 |
| magespawn | maaz | 13:13 |
| nlsthzn | inetpro: can't complain , and yourself? | 13:13 |
| * inetpro just wants the week to end now | 13:13 | |
| magespawn | why? what is so bad about this week? | 13:14 |
| inetpro | magespawn: hmm... just tired and don't want to start anything now | 13:15 |
| nlsthzn | fair enough | 13:16 |
| magespawn | me too but still have to open the shop tomorrow but really looking forward to kicking back on sunday | 13:16 |
| Kilos | inetpro> hmm... compose and o gives me ö | 13:22 |
| Kilos | there is another way | 13:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: coffee on | 13:23 |
| Kilos | hold down ctrl+alt and type u b 0 | 13:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:23 |
| Kilos | kilos puts the kettle on | 13:24 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 13:24 |
| Kilos | hehe cheeky old man | 13:24 |
| Kilos | magespawn, where is your bot | 13:24 |
| * inetpro lol | 13:25 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee ctrl+alt and u b 0 not werking | 13:26 |
| inetpro | not on kubuntu at least | 13:26 |
| inetpro | oh and not on a Precise Beta1 default VM | 13:27 |
| Kilos | wag ek soek weer waar het ek dit neer geskryf | 13:28 |
| * inetpro is not very happy with the beta1 stability in a VM at this stage | 13:28 | |
| Kerbero | hmm | 13:28 |
| Kerbero | i should update my vm | 13:28 |
| inetpro | would not recommend an upgrade | 13:28 |
| * nlsthzn is happy with the beta as his main system too | 13:28 | |
| inetpro | I've had a few crashes, nothing major though | 13:29 |
| magespawn | have not had time to set it up yet | 13:29 |
| Kerbero | if the dualscreening of the new version is really better than 11.10 i will switch asap | 13:29 |
| nlsthzn | initially I could only get 12.04 to work as an upgrade from 11.10... now at least installing it works :) | 13:29 |
| nlsthzn | Kerbero: seems they are still debating some of how it should be handled | 13:29 |
| nlsthzn | was a post on omgubuntu about it | 13:30 |
| Kerbero | :| | 13:30 |
| Kerbero | yeah i heard people saying it is not good | 13:31 |
| Kerbero | the way it works | 13:31 |
| Kilos | inetpro, google how to make a ° simbol with ubuntu | 13:32 |
| Kilos | i think i used degrees not the ° | 13:32 |
| Kilos | ek sukkel om te kry waar ek dit neer geskryf het | 13:33 |
| Kilos | en maaz is nie hier om te vra nie | 13:33 |
| Kilos | inetpro, your coffee is ready | 13:35 |
| inetpro | ahh Kilos, it is Left Ctrl+Shift and tapping, in sequence, u b 0 | 13:35 |
| inetpro | http://paulscomputernotes.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-get-degree-symbol-in-ubuntu.html | 13:35 |
| Kilos | oh ctrl shift | 13:35 |
| Kilos | i forgot sorry | 13:35 |
| inetpro | that still works on Ubuntu Precise | 13:35 |
| inetpro | but not in Kubuntu | 13:36 |
| Kilos | kubuntu sucks | 13:36 |
| inetpro | heh! | 13:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:36 |
| Kilos | better go unity | 13:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: watch mooi wat jy hier sê! | 13:36 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 13:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maar dankie vir die nota | 13:37 |
| * Kilos het vergeet jy weet waar bly hy | 13:37 | |
| inetpro | :-) | 13:37 |
| inetpro | copywrite -- © > Ctrl+Shift+u + a9 or Compose key+c+o | 13:39 |
| inetpro | very interesting | 13:39 |
| inetpro | trade mark -- ™ > Ctrl+Shift+u + 2122 | 13:39 |
| magespawn | is there a list somewhere with all on ? | 13:40 |
| Kilos | magespawn, forget serious work fix your bot | 13:40 |
| Kilos | ibids make the best coffee | 13:41 |
| Kilos | hi confluency you quiet | 13:41 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, you at home? | 13:41 |
| magespawn | hold on then | 13:41 |
| inetpro | in Kubuntu with South African keyboard layout you press AltGr+Shift+0 for ° | 13:42 |
| * Kilos holds on | 13:42 | |
| Kilos | whats AltGr | 13:42 |
| Owkkuri | Kilos: right alt key | 13:44 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: nope @ work | 13:44 |
| * Kilos changes glasses to see whats onna keyboard | 13:44 | |
| Kilos | oh my alt graph | 13:45 |
| Kilos | didnt even know it was there | 13:45 |
| Kilos | and this keyboard actually has a compose key right next to right alt | 13:46 |
| Kilos | ty Owkkuri | 13:46 |
| inetpro | wow! | 13:47 |
| * inetpro likes the way that Ubuntu has now visible keyboard layouts as soon you choose an additional layout | 13:48 | |
| inetpro | very pretty | 13:49 |
| * Kerbero likes it that koiosify is online again | 13:49 | |
| koiosify | My pc died | 13:50 |
| nlsthzn | :( | 13:50 |
| Kerbero | o | 13:51 |
| magespawn | Kilos busy doibng the install now | 13:51 |
| magespawn | doing even | 13:51 |
| Kilos | good lad | 13:51 |
| Kilos | i dunno how you get it on here though | 13:52 |
| Kilos | need to pester inetpro again | 13:52 |
| magespawn | i am sure we can work it out will be reading documentation will doing install | 13:52 |
| inetpro | magespawn: just read those docs, should be real easy | 13:57 |
| inetpro | I'll help later if necessary | 13:57 |
| magespawn | seem to be doing okay so far | 13:57 |
| inetpro | sadly that will only be after 20:00 | 13:58 |
| Kilos | what inetpro | 13:58 |
| Kilos | zeref, you still alive? | 13:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I will be afk until later this evening | 14:00 |
| Kilos | we forgive you | 14:01 |
| magespawn | okay first prob | 14:01 |
| magespawn | ibid@gandcnet:~/botdir$ ibid setup | 14:01 |
| magespawn | Traceback (most recent call last): | 14:01 |
| magespawn | File "/usr/bin/ibid", line 15, in <module> | 14:01 |
| magespawn | ibid.setup(options) | 14:01 |
| magespawn | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ibid/__init__.py", line 122, in setup | 14:01 |
| magespawn | raise IbidException('Cannot find configuration file %s' % options['config']) | 14:01 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:01 |
| magespawn | ibid.IbidException: Cannot find configuration file setup | 14:01 |
| magespawn | ibid@gandcnet:~/botdir$ | 14:01 |
| magespawn | going to read doc | 14:01 |
| Kilos | when in doubt, read the instruction manual | 14:02 |
| magespawn | yup do not do that often | 14:02 |
| Kilos | maybe it even has man pages | 14:07 |
| magespawn | back again | 14:15 |
| Kilos | wb | 14:15 |
| magespawn | bot does not want to join | 14:17 |
| magespawn | more probs | 14:17 |
| magespawn | brb | 14:17 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 14:21 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 14:22 |
| psydroid | hi magespawn | 14:22 |
| psydroid | hi all | 14:22 |
| magespawn | ho psydroid | 14:22 |
| Kilos | magespawn, is working on an ibid bot so we can get coffee till cocooncrash fixes maaz | 14:23 |
| magespawn | bit of a mind bender | 14:23 |
| nlsthzn | Home time for IR... cheers all | 14:26 |
| Kilos | cheers nlsthzn go well | 14:26 |
| === nlsthzn is now known as not_found | ||
| not_found | thanks uncle Kilos | 14:27 |
| magespawn | going to put the screen in a pastbin so inetpro can look later | 14:27 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:29 |
| Kilos | only 3.5 hours | 14:29 |
| Kilos | we will survive | 14:29 |
| Kilos | magespawn, use slexy.org | 14:30 |
| Kilos | then i can see too | 14:30 |
| Kilos | my setup dont like the ubuntu bin | 14:30 |
| magespawn | okay | 14:30 |
| magespawn | http://slexy.org/view/s2z7CvnaiG | 14:32 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:32 |
| Kilos | maybe you gotta install those things it cant find | 14:36 |
| magespawn | not sure how did try the normal route | 14:37 |
| Kilos | you have it installed so run sudo aptitude reinstall ibid and maybe aptitude finds the missing stuff | 14:38 |
| Kilos | or gives you a cleare explanation on whats needed | 14:39 |
| Kilos | clearer | 14:39 |
| Kilos | haha your internet is twisted | 14:40 |
| Kilos | sue telkom | 14:40 |
| Kilos | Address already in use. | 14:41 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you got something else logged into the same addy | 14:42 |
| Kilos | ? | 14:42 |
| magespawn | not sure | 14:42 |
| Kilos | xcht or something | 14:43 |
| Kilos | xchat | 14:43 |
| Kilos | maybe the bot gotta get in before you do | 14:44 |
| magespawn | got to run lift is here | 14:44 |
| Kilos | ok toodles | 14:44 |
| magespawn | will check in later | 14:44 |
| Kilos | cool | 14:45 |
| Kilos | be back at 8ish | 14:57 |
| magespawn_mobile | Eveing all | 17:38 |
| magespawn_mobile | Evening | 17:38 |
| Kilos | evening all of you | 18:17 |
| dLimit | Kilos hi | 18:17 |
| Kilos | maaz coffee on | 18:18 |
| Kilos | hi dLimit long time no hear | 18:18 |
| dLimit | Yeah quite... been lurking around lol | 18:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:18 |
| dLimit | So whatsup Kilos ? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | you getting like the old guys here | 18:18 |
| Kilos | everything still the same here, and there? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | magespawn, helloooo | 18:19 |
| Kilos | lo superfly nuvolari | 18:20 |
| dLimit | Just destroyed my old system installing backtrack lol | 18:20 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:20 |
| Kilos | what is backtrack? | 18:20 |
| dLimit | yeah went and selected the wrong partition blah | 18:20 |
| dLimit | Its a linux distro | 18:20 |
| dLimit | for hacking | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:21 |
| dLimit | or pen testing as they call it | 18:21 |
| superfly | hiya Kilos | 18:21 |
| dLimit | Based on ubuntu so I believe I'm still allowed in here =D | 18:21 |
| * superfly is sorely tempted to move to Arch, but he'll still hang with the Ubuntu crowd :-P | 18:21 | |
| Kerbero | i was too | 18:22 |
| Kilos | i think no one minds any linux version here as long as you can help others now and again | 18:22 |
| Kerbero | until the arch installer failed on me three times | 18:22 |
| Kilos | aw superfly is ubuntu getting you down? | 18:22 |
| superfly | Kilos: the way the Kubuntu team sets up KDE is a little irritating at times | 18:22 |
| Kilos | sort them out superfly | 18:23 |
| Kilos | or go unity | 18:23 |
| Kerbero | lol | 18:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: ugh, I'll stick with KDE, but use Arch instead :-P | 18:23 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:23 |
| dLimit | Openbox FTW | 18:24 |
| Kilos | and mark sounds so exited with ubuntu's progress | 18:25 |
| Kilos | superfly, have you had any feedback from the kde guys about the probs | 18:28 |
| Kilos | hmm magespawn is visiting chicks again | 18:29 |
| superfly | Kilos: they are all known issues, it seems | 18:39 |
| superfly | I've googled and stuff, and I'm not the only person with the problems | 18:40 |
| Kilos | ok superfly do you know what they are doing wrong? | 18:40 |
| superfly | Kilos: Not really, and I don't have the time to run after it. It's mostly small stuff that is very irritating | 18:41 |
| Kilos | google only works if someone else sorts the prob out first | 18:41 |
| Kilos | email them directly | 18:41 |
| * Kilos know like it when peeps make the fly unhappy | 18:42 | |
| Kilos | no lik it | 18:42 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:42 |
| inetpro | good evenin | 18:42 |
| Kilos | no like it | 18:42 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 18:42 |
| inetpro | hoe lyk dinge hier vanaand? | 18:43 |
| Kilos | het jy nat gekry inetpro | 18:43 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee | 18:43 |
| Kilos | ons het iets vir jou om uit te sorteer | 18:43 |
| Kilos | mooi dit het kwaai gestorm hier | 18:44 |
| Kilos | ek weet nie waar magespawn is nie maar hy het dit gegee | 18:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oja, dit het nou gereen hier | 18:44 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2z7CvnaiG | 18:44 |
| Kilos | daai ibid van hom werk nie | 18:45 |
| inetpro | 2012-03-09 16:18:51+0200 [-] twisted.internet.error.CannotListenError: Couldn't listen on any:8080: [Errno 98] Address already in use. | 18:45 |
| inetpro | hy sal moet kyk wat gebruik reeds poort 8080 | 18:46 |
| Kilos | ah ek het hom gevra daaroor, kan dit wees die bot kannie in kom as mage met xchat 8080 gebruik nie | 18:47 |
| Kilos | ek kyk gou of xchat dit gebruik | 18:47 |
| Kilos | nee 8001 | 18:47 |
| Kilos | hoe sal mens sien wat gebruik 8080 | 18:48 |
| inetpro | lsof -i:8080 | 18:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: dis nie dieselle nie | 18:49 |
| inetpro | jou xchat praat met die server op poort 8001 | 18:50 |
| inetpro | so die server luister op 8001 en die klient koppel soontoe | 18:50 |
| Kilos | en sy ibid gaan op 8080 probeer in kom ? | 18:50 |
| Kilos | moet hy nie sy ibid laat 8001 ook gebruik nie | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sy ibid moet luister op 8080 maar 'n ander diens maak reeds van die poort gebruik | 18:51 |
| Kilos | o is 8080 ook by irc | 18:51 |
| Kilos | of is dit by hom self | 18:52 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed, superfly: will a ibid bot work if you change the port to something else | 18:52 |
| inetpro | ? | 18:52 |
| superfly | inetpro: it should... I'm trying to remember how I got around that one, I think I did something | 18:53 |
| Kilos | ha ha | 18:53 |
| inetpro | is it the bot that actually talks back on 8080 or is it just the bot's website? | 18:55 |
| Kilos | inetpro, is port 8080 by irc or where | 18:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ibid | 18:56 |
| Kilos | or 8001 | 18:56 |
| Kilos | oh my im lost some now | 18:56 |
| Kilos | is the ibid on his pc | 18:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: dit is een van die die poorte wat luister by freenode se servers | 18:57 |
| Kilos | o ek sien so dis nie lokaal nie | 18:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wel by magespawn gaan dit lokaal wees | 18:58 |
| Kilos | watter poort gebruik jou quassel | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... dis nie belankrik nie... ek koppel na freenode se adres en poort nommer | 18:58 |
| Kilos | ja maar dink nou soos ek dink. | 18:59 |
| Kilos | het freenode n poort 8080? | 18:59 |
| inetpro | miskien | 18:59 |
| Kilos | nou as jy ook 8001 gebruik van jou quassel dan moet sy bot ook 8001 gebruik | 19:00 |
| inetpro | nee | 19:00 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:01 |
| inetpro | dit het niks met die saak uit te waai nie | 19:01 |
| Kilos | lsof -i:8080 wys niks by my nie | 19:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: behalwe dat sy bot ook moet koppel na freenode se gewone IP:poort | 19:02 |
| Kilos | dis wat ek vra is 8001 nie die een wat werk op freenode nie | 19:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: het jy ibid geinstalleer? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | nee? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | kan net ibid dit gebruik? | 19:03 |
| inetpro | ibid luister op 8080 'by default' | 19:03 |
| inetpro | en sy ibid wil nie opstart omdat 'n ander diens reeds 8080 gebruik | 19:04 |
| inetpro | bv apache | 19:04 |
| inetpro | of jboss | 19:04 |
| inetpro | of, of, of... kan baie ander dinge wees | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ah hy sal dit moet check | 19:04 |
| inetpro | exactly | 19:05 |
| Kilos | en toemaak wat dit gebruik | 19:05 |
| Kilos | julle doen te veel op een slag | 19:05 |
| inetpro | indien nodig ja | 19:05 |
| inetpro | miskien kan ibid gestel word na 'n ander poort | 19:06 |
| Kilos | as ek reg onthou het iemand vir my vertel dat n ibid permanent aanlyn moet bly | 19:06 |
| Kilos | so n jaar terug | 19:06 |
| Kilos | onthou jy um | 19:07 |
| Kilos | afrodeity het dit probeer | 19:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: dit is waar | 19:08 |
| inetpro | somebody already filed a bug for this at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ibid/+bug/602363 | 19:08 |
| inetpro | ahh... Reported by marcog on 2010-07-06 | 19:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:09 |
| Kilos | hoekom moet dit permanent aanlyn bly | 19:09 |
| inetpro | the poor dude is pre-occupied with facebook these days? | 19:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 'n bot moet mas daar wees om vir jou koffie te maak? | 19:10 |
| inetpro | mos* | 19:10 |
| Kilos | lol ja man | 19:10 |
| Kilos | maar se nou ek instaleer een hier ons kan mos saam gaan slaap | 19:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 'n bot is maar net soos jy | 19:11 |
| inetpro | ibid = kilos | 19:11 |
| inetpro | iemand sê iets vir kilos en dan sê jy iets terug | 19:11 |
| Kilos | ? | 19:11 |
| Kilos | ja maar kilos maak nie koffie vir almal nie | 19:12 |
| inetpro | maar in hierdie geval is die bot net 'n robot wat geprogrammeer is om slim dinge automaties te sê | 19:12 |
| Kilos | ja maar dit doen baie ander goed ook | 19:12 |
| inetpro | m.a.w. ibid is maar net nog 'n xchat | 19:12 |
| inetpro | maar 'n slim xchat | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | hello there! | 19:13 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: wb | 19:13 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey you well lad? | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | did i miss anything exciting? :D | 19:13 |
| Kilos | lots | 19:13 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: lots of it | 19:13 |
| Kilos | maaz is dead | 19:13 |
| Kilos | funeral next weekend | 19:14 |
| kbmonkey | did he kick the bit-bucket? | 19:14 |
| Kilos | bot-bit-bucket | 19:14 |
| Kilos | ah the crash kid is online | 19:14 |
| Kilos | vra hom mooi inetpro | 19:15 |
| inetpro | Kilos: die probleem is dat daar maar altyd 'n risiko aan verbonde is om via die internet na enigiets te koppel | 19:15 |
| inetpro | en hoe langer jy aan iets gekoppel is hoe groter die risiko dat iemand iets kan doen | 19:15 |
| Kilos | eish dink jy iemand het maaz gehack | 19:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: dit is seker nie onmoontlik nie, maar ek twyfel | 19:16 |
| inetpro | wie sal nou so onvriendelik wees met ons? Daai persoon kan nie mooi tel nie. | 19:17 |
| kbmonkey | dis nou nie mooi nie :/ | 19:17 |
| Kilos | baie ms mense | 19:17 |
| Kilos | billy betaal mense om ons te dooi | 19:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: an assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:19 |
| Kilos | if maaz was here i would teach him that saying | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | assumption planted a feather ;) | 19:22 |
| Kilos | and hoped a fowl would grow | 19:22 |
| kbmonkey | n hoender | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ja | 19:23 |
| inetpro | noddy: no assumption is <reply> $who an assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts | 19:24 |
| inetpro | oops | 19:24 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:24 |
| inetpro | ek probeer my bot ook slim maak :-) | 19:24 |
| Kilos | ek sien daai ding | 19:24 |
| magespawn_mobile | Howdy all | 19:25 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn_mobile | 19:26 |
| Kilos | hopefully we got a cure for your ibid | 19:26 |
| Kilos | untwist the internet connection | 19:26 |
| magespawn_mobile | Lol | 19:26 |
| kbmonkey | where is maaz hosted btw? | 19:26 |
| Kilos | you need a pc at home too | 19:26 |
| Kilos | germany i think | 19:27 |
| Kilos | or holland | 19:27 |
| Kilos | been a while since we were told | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | on the tubes :) I guess I meant how | 19:27 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: AFAIAA Maaz is hosted on cocooncrash's machine somewhere in cyber space | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | ah gotcha | 19:27 |
| inetpro | s/is/was/ | 19:28 |
| Kilos | oh is the host the guy that installs it? | 19:29 |
| magespawn_mobile | And he's is back | 19:29 |
| Kilos | cocooncrash, ty ty ty | 19:29 |
| cocooncrash | Kilos: :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 19:29 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 19:29 | |
| cocooncrash | Bah | 19:29 |
| Kilos | cocooncrash, maaz has been off for days | 19:30 |
| Kilos | aw | 19:30 |
| Kilos | hopefully you can tell us what happened to him sometime | 19:30 |
| Kilos | maybe he got tired of making coffee | 19:31 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:32 |
| * Kilos scared to ask for coffee | 19:32 | |
| Kilos | aw | 19:33 |
| Kilos | methinks we should all cheer maaz on | 19:33 |
| Kilos | go maaz | 19:33 |
| Kilos | come on you buncha geeks | 19:34 |
| inetpro | Maaz: wb | 19:34 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much inetpro my good good friend | 19:34 |
| Kilos | ooo what a cute bot | 19:34 |
| Kilos | aw | 19:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: heh | 19:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, wb | 19:35 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend | 19:35 |
| Kilos | hold on there buddy | 19:35 |
| inetpro | now please stick around Maaz | 19:35 |
| inetpro | magespawn: wb | 19:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:36 |
| Kilos | wakey wakey | 19:36 |
| Kilos | i think he left a work pc on | 19:36 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz is back | 19:37 |
| Kilos | you guys with multiple connections mess with my brains | 19:37 |
| Kilos | and gone kbmonkey | 19:38 |
| Kilos | cocooncrash, is working on him now | 19:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hi | 19:38 |
| Maaz | Howzit Kilos | 19:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 19:38 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 19:38 | |
| * Kilos holds thumbs | 19:38 | |
| Kilos | cocooncrash, what was the problem? | 19:39 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 19:39 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: wb | 19:39 |
| cocooncrash | Kilos: I think the SILC library was making it crash | 19:40 |
| nlsthzn | Hi Kilos and inetpro and all... | 19:41 |
| Kilos | eish we missed him bad cocooncrash ty very much | 19:41 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 19:42 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thank you very much my bot buddy | 19:42 |
| Maaz | Kilos: not at all | 19:42 |
| nlsthzn | hello Maaz | 19:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:43 |
| nlsthzn | :( | 19:43 |
| Kilos | you gotta put his nick first | 19:43 |
| Kilos | or he will ignore you | 19:44 |
| nlsthzn | Maaz, walala wasala | 19:44 |
| Maaz | nlsthzn: What? | 19:44 |
| nlsthzn | exactly | 19:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:44 |
| Kilos | Maaz, we love you | 19:45 |
| Maaz | Ya Ya, you guys just want coffee thats all | 19:45 |
| nlsthzn | haha | 19:46 |
| nlsthzn | bbl | 19:46 |
| Kilos | toods nl | 19:46 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:46 |
| Kilos | Maaz, assumption | 19:49 |
| Maaz | An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts | 19:49 |
| inetpro | yikes | 19:50 |
| Kilos | the bot is working | 19:52 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hier's nog 'n slimme | 19:53 |
| inetpro | "I never attempt to make money on the stock market. I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years." -- Warren Buffett | 19:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:53 |
| Kilos | the stock market is a bit swindle | 19:54 |
| Kilos | manipulated by the money powers | 19:54 |
| Kilos | *big | 19:54 |
| inetpro | "If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance." -- Orville Wright | 19:55 |
| magespawn_mobile | Back again | 19:55 |
| inetpro | magespawn_mobile: and why not back with magespawn? | 19:56 |
| magespawn_mobile | Quassel still loved on at shop | 19:57 |
| magespawn_mobile | Logged | 19:57 |
| inetpro | ahh... you've not done the dyndns thingy? | 19:57 |
| magespawn_mobile | Not yet had a bit of work today | 19:58 |
| inetpro | np | 19:58 |
| inetpro | magespawn_mobile: so I guess your ibid is also at the office? | 20:00 |
| Kilos | inetpro, is into witty quotes tonight | 20:00 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup | 20:00 |
| * inetpro witty? | 20:01 | |
| inetpro | magespawn_mobile: you have something listening on port 8080 already | 20:01 |
| Kilos | witty-funny-snaaks | 20:01 |
| magespawn_mobile | But I will be back tomorrow | 20:01 |
| magespawn_mobile | Ahh so I need to chafe the ibid port then | 20:01 |
| magespawn_mobile | Change | 20:02 |
| Kilos | magespawn, inetpro says its that twisted internet for starters | 20:02 |
| inetpro | magespawn_mobile: check with 'lsof -i:8080' what is is if you don't know | 20:02 |
| Kilos | you need to find whats using port 8080 | 20:02 |
| magespawn_mobile | Or the other | 20:02 |
| magespawn_mobile | Was that the last lint in the paste I posted | 20:03 |
| Kilos | magespawn, do you see this chat when you open the fone on irc next time | 20:03 |
| inetpro | I haven't seen where or how you can change ibid's port but that should also be a possibility | 20:03 |
| Kilos | yip | 20:03 |
| magespawn_mobile | Line | 20:03 |
| inetpro | magespawn_mobile: almost | 20:03 |
| magespawn_mobile | Ahh will have a look on the morrow | 20:04 |
| inetpro | np | 20:04 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you need a pc at home too | 20:05 |
| magespawn_mobile | Have one but is running xp | 20:05 |
| Kilos | eish | 20:05 |
| magespawn_mobile | Can do most of this on my phone too | 20:05 |
| Kilos | for games | 20:05 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup kiddies | 20:05 |
| Kilos | get connected via wireless to shop | 20:06 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 20:06 |
| magespawn_mobile | Bit far at the moment but am working on a WiFi for the town | 20:06 |
| magespawn_mobile | Should cover my house | 20:06 |
| Kilos | the higher the antennae the further it will reach | 20:07 |
| Kilos | anything above fm frequencies is line of site | 20:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Wi-Fi networks have limited range. | 20:10 |
| inetpro | A typical wireless access point using 802.11b or 802.11g with a stock antenna might have a range of 32 m (120 ft) indoors and 95 m (300 ft) outdoors. | 20:10 |
| Kilos | inetpro, what frequency | 20:10 |
| magespawn_mobile | But they are free | 20:10 |
| Kilos | ya in the gigs | 20:11 |
| magespawn_mobile | I think 2.4ghz | 20:11 |
| inetpro | range varies | 20:11 |
| inetpro | Wi-Fi in the 2.4 GHz frequency block has slightly better range than Wi-Fi in the 5 GHz frequency block which is used by 802.11a | 20:11 |
| magespawn_mobile | That is the free ICASA FREE I mean | 20:12 |
| Kilos | only frequencies in the lower meg ranges have distance capabilties | 20:12 |
| Kilos | like 27m can do like 30 ks | 20:12 |
| inetpro | ahh, but outdoor ranges can be improved to many kilometers through the use of high gain directional antennas at the router and remote device(s) | 20:13 |
| magespawn_mobile | That's the plan. | 20:13 |
| inetpro | maximum amount of power that a Wi-Fi device can transmit is limited by local regulations | 20:13 |
| Kilos | yeah for interference purposes | 20:14 |
| magespawn_mobile | All tied up in the reg and specs | 20:14 |
| Kilos | and its useless having lots power to transmit when the peeps using it cant match the power to get back to it | 20:15 |
| magespawn_mobile | But you can still make it work. | 20:15 |
| magespawn_mobile | I would have to put base stations at the places I want them | 20:16 |
| Kilos | i think as long as your antenae can see each other and the pc side is a good yagi type it should work | 20:17 |
| Kilos | you can get info on wireless from the pta wug guys | 20:18 |
| Kilos | some of them use ubuntu as well | 20:18 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup got a friend up there who did this for a company in north west | 20:18 |
| Kilos | they know where to get or they supply equipment as well | 20:19 |
| magespawn_mobile | Said he would consult for me | 20:19 |
| Kilos | nice | 20:19 |
| kbmonkey | was afk, back :) | 20:20 |
| Kilos | ian is in rustenburg magespawn_mobile he would be interested in the nw group as well | 20:20 |
| kbmonkey | is maaz in icu now | 20:20 |
| Kilos | no he is fixed | 20:20 |
| kbmonkey | :) | 20:21 |
| magespawn_mobile | Got the ng kerk to let me use their church tower highest point except the Vodacom tower | 20:21 |
| Kilos | inetpro, made coffee for me | 20:21 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:21 |
| Kilos | great | 20:21 |
| inetpro | wow | 20:23 |
| * inetpro never thought of the idea to use a church tower for wireless networks | 20:23 | |
| inetpro | sounds kind of freaky | 20:23 |
| magespawn_mobile | Highest point with best line of sight | 20:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:24 |
| magespawn_mobile | Got a coupl of other spots so I can get around the hills and extend the range etc | 20:25 |
| kbmonkey | good idea magespawn_mobile :D | 20:26 |
| kbmonkey | holy wifi! | 20:26 |
| Kilos | the towers actually can see each other from quite a distance | 20:26 |
| Kilos | hehe kbmonkey ++ | 20:26 |
| kbmonkey | aren't they lightning magnets though? | 20:26 |
| kbmonkey | could the wifi withstand acts of God? ;P | 20:27 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup will need to ground it properly | 20:27 |
| Kilos | normally you run an earth cable to a place where the soil is dampest | 20:27 |
| Kilos | or steel water pipes | 20:27 |
| magespawn_mobile | The lightening rod will be above the antenna | 20:27 |
| Kilos | this is all gonna cost quite a packet magespawn_mobile | 20:29 |
| Kilos | but once done most of the town will be able to use it | 20:29 |
| Kilos | you will need a faster connection | 20:30 |
| Kilos | if you gonna supply internet | 20:30 |
| Kilos | the pta wug is one of the biggest but dont supply internet connection. just to each other | 20:31 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup was looking into bonded Adel | 20:31 |
| magespawn_mobile | Adsl | 20:31 |
| Kilos | sleep tight guys i gonna crash now | 20:33 |
| Kilos | see yous tomorrow | 20:33 |
| magespawn_mobile | That's the idea I want to be able give tourists WiFi | 20:33 |
| Kilos | good idea magespawn_mobile | 20:33 |
| Kilos | tourist in hluhluwe | 20:34 |
| magespawn_mobile | Yup | 20:34 |
| Kilos | on thier way to go fishing or to the game reserve | 20:34 |
| Kilos | their | 20:34 |
| Kilos | theres nothing to see in hluhluwe | 20:34 |
| magespawn_mobile | One or two guest houses and lodges etc | 20:35 |
| inetpro | bye Kilos | 20:36 |
| Kilos | night all | 20:36 |
| Kilos | Maaz, night | 20:36 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Bye | 20:36 |
| magespawn_mobile | I am also off see y'all to morrow | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | ah i'm slow on irc tonight | 21:00 |
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