[04:23] what's wrong with a developer if he/she does'nt use IRC? [04:23] :P [06:02] morning all, have good friday y'all [06:10] good morning again [06:12] :) morning magespawn ... [06:22] Morning [06:24] o/ sakhi [06:27] hey hey its friday [06:31] friday, friday... got to het down on friday... [06:31] *get [06:31] indeed [06:43] Formal Friday [06:43] frisky friday [06:44] if only :-P [06:44] lol [06:46] i just got superglue on my tongue [06:46] magespawn: don't press your tongue against the roof of your moust! [06:47] *mouth [06:47] people might think it rude if i walk aroung with my tongue out [06:48] in this case I would rather be rude [06:49] good point [06:49] yeah, ditto [06:50] just for the record it does not taste good [06:52] I don't think it is supposed too... [06:54] hi superfly magespawn inetpro nlsthzn nuvolari Squirm Owkkuri plustwo and others [06:54] hehe [06:54] Morning uncle Kilos [06:54] sigh still no maaz [06:54] môre oom Kilos [06:54] good morning Kilos [06:55] goeie more Kilos [06:55] en goeie more aan al die ander [06:55] hi drussell hows the weather in the UK [06:55] where is the the crash kid? [06:56] Kilos: iewers in die amerikaanse state? [06:56] eish [06:57] hi kilos [06:57] hmmm [06:57] who is in charge/owns Maaz? [06:57] is daar nie iemand wat saam met hom werk nie? [06:57] cocooncrash, is the bots boss [06:58] i seem to remember there was someone with him at work [06:58] magespawn: as far as I'm aware cocooncrash is hosting it on his private box [06:59] how do you set up a bot? anybody know where i can start looking? [06:59] magespawn, get ibid [06:59] and inetpro knows how to set it up [06:59] http://ibid.omnia.za.net/ [06:59] hehe [07:00] or https://launchpad.net/ibid [07:00] ty will have a look [07:00] and you can call it botspawn [07:00] or magespawn [07:01] who works in the same offices as cocooncrash ? [07:01] dont all answer at once [07:01] I don't [07:01] lol [07:01] ha ha ha [07:02] Kilos: not too bad at all, a little chilly, 8 degrees c right now and a little overcast, but it's dry :o) [07:02] Kilos: how about where you are? [07:02] drussell, sunny and hot and not enough rain in transvaal [07:03] you dunno about the compose key drussell ? [07:03] dont believe that [07:04] compose key 2xo gives you the ° [07:07] okay but where do you see that on the keyboard? [07:07] xo [07:07] oh you have to make it magespawn [07:07] ahh right [07:07] not xo man two times o [07:07] lol [07:08] lol [07:08] i see if i can find how [07:08] nuvolari, told me long ago [07:08] will search on the net [07:08] no its on your pc [07:09] no for the way to do it [07:09] system prefs keyboard [07:09] then [07:09] apparenlty you assign it in the system to one of the key/s [07:09] layouts [07:10] then tick the compose key pointer [07:10] then set which key you want [07:10] i use left winsucks key [07:11] lol might as well put it to use [07:11] yeah [07:11] Kilos: hehe yeah, I use it so rarely I forget :o) [07:11] hehe [07:12] ° [07:12] cool ty [07:12] yw [07:13] hmm... compose and o gives me ö [07:14] with a South African keyboard layout [07:14] ibd is written in python, i am trying to learn python so this should be a good thing to look at [07:14] http://ibid.omnia.za.net/docs/0.1.0/index.html [07:14] real easy to set up and use [07:17] ill have a look later busy putting an inkjet back together [07:31] hi morgs [07:31] mornings [07:35] morning morgs [07:36] hi superfly [08:06] right work desk net and tidy and printer back in one piece and working [08:06] yay [08:10] that for sure [08:11] new tech from ibm can move data at 1 trillion bits a second [08:12] whew [08:13] kind of makes password a little redundant [08:14] but move it where? [08:16] article on ars technica, for communicating between chips on servers , i think , will try to find the article [08:18] this is from mashable mashable.com/2012/03/08/ibm-fast-optical-chip [08:19] they are also apparently working on a quantum computer [08:24] and apparently you can now log into yahoo mail with your gmail id from LTG [08:24] ah [08:24] hello morgs [08:24] hi inetpro [08:25] you are far to quiet these days [08:25] yeah... [08:25] * morgs triages bugs on a big client project [08:25] oohh that sounds like fun [08:26] Rats, I've got two servers in Kenya which were installed with Ubuntu 10.10 instead of 10.04 LTS. Going to be a bummer fixing that and 10.10 is being EOLed soon [08:26] sigh , no maaz so cant define triages [08:26] Basically sorting tickets into priority and due date etc [08:27] looks at the bug and sorts them by priority [08:27] lol [08:27] morgs, try keep 10.10 alive so i can keep using it too [08:28] maverick rocks [08:29] yeah, well, here's hoping precise is more stable on the desktop [08:29] * inetpro likes The Governator's latest posting about Government use of Ubuntu [08:29] on the server it's more the support period that matters [08:29] inetpro: URL? [08:30] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1056 [08:30] inetpro, whats he say? [08:30] I has a lol at the email addy :p governator [08:30] ah [08:30] oh that governator [08:30] clearly Ubuntu is moving forward in big places [08:31] Ah now I see the reference [08:33] "A European defence force has recently adopted Ubuntu widely as part of an agility-enhancing strategy that gives soldiers and office workers secure desktop capabilities from remote locations like… home, or out in the field." [08:34] Squad, we're deploying at oh six hundred zulu time. Remember to do your dist-upgrades in advance! [08:34] ha [08:35] did you see the French airforce was grounded because of a windows virus? [08:35] lol [08:36] they could not load the flight maps from the ground computers into the planes, an unpatched windows bug allowed the malware in [08:36] wow [08:38] this looks neat mahable.com/2012/03/05/recoil-winder-kickstarter [08:53] to fair the patch was available they had just no applied it [08:55] ^be ^not [08:55] morgs: I guess we need IPMI to come standard with all servers these days so you can do a complete remote installation [08:56] IPMI = Intelligent Platform Management Interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface [08:57] inetpro: yeah, we do use DRAC for Dell or iLO for HP which lets you do remote console/installations, but we do not have it on all servers - clients are sometimes too cheap to pay for this [08:57] nice [08:58] It does let you do a remote installation, even upload ISO images to a virtual CD drive, although that gets uploaded from your workstation (e.g. laptop on ADSL) and is slow if you're tunnelling over stuff to get to a remote data centre. [08:58] does that not end up costing more at the end of tha day, not having that ability [08:58] magespawn: yes it does, just not on the initial budget... [08:59] Anyway, the worth of features like this get proven when you really need them... [08:59] what si that sevice from cannonical? would tha work [09:00] We've got one client who manages the network while we manage the servers. They reallocated the IP addresses for the iLO consoles without telling us, then when a server went down we couldn't reboot it remotely - that's another painful scenario [09:00] communication is important [09:02] landscape [09:20] bbl [09:46] magespawn: no, communication is key [10:06] indeed [10:14] landscape is great, but very expensive. Too expensive for our current hosting model which has lots of small VPSs [13:09] hmm... [13:09] Maaz: coffee on [13:10] Maaz: Is it Friday yet? [13:11] yup, maaz left early [13:12] heh nlsthzn, How goes? [13:12] maaaz has taken and extended leave of absence [13:13] an [13:13] maaz [13:13] inetpro: can't complain , and yourself? [13:13] * inetpro just wants the week to end now [13:14] why? what is so bad about this week? [13:15] magespawn: hmm... just tired and don't want to start anything now [13:16] fair enough [13:16] me too but still have to open the shop tomorrow but really looking forward to kicking back on sunday [13:22] inetpro> hmm... compose and o gives me ö [13:23] there is another way [13:23] Kilos: coffee on [13:23] hold down ctrl+alt and type u b 0 [13:23] lol [13:24] kilos puts the kettle on [13:24] lol [13:24] hehe cheeky old man [13:24] magespawn, where is your bot [13:25] * inetpro lol [13:26] Kilos: nee ctrl+alt and u b 0 not werking [13:26] not on kubuntu at least [13:27] oh and not on a Precise Beta1 default VM [13:28] wag ek soek weer waar het ek dit neer geskryf [13:28] * inetpro is not very happy with the beta1 stability in a VM at this stage [13:28] hmm [13:28] i should update my vm [13:28] would not recommend an upgrade [13:28] * nlsthzn is happy with the beta as his main system too [13:29] I've had a few crashes, nothing major though [13:29] have not had time to set it up yet [13:29] if the dualscreening of the new version is really better than 11.10 i will switch asap [13:29] initially I could only get 12.04 to work as an upgrade from 11.10... now at least installing it works :) [13:29] Kerbero: seems they are still debating some of how it should be handled [13:30] was a post on omgubuntu about it [13:30] :| [13:31] yeah i heard people saying it is not good [13:31] the way it works [13:32] inetpro, google how to make a ° simbol with ubuntu [13:32] i think i used degrees not the ° [13:33] ek sukkel om te kry waar ek dit neer geskryf het [13:33] en maaz is nie hier om te vra nie [13:35] inetpro, your coffee is ready [13:35] ahh Kilos, it is Left Ctrl+Shift and tapping, in sequence, u b 0 [13:35] http://paulscomputernotes.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-get-degree-symbol-in-ubuntu.html [13:35] oh ctrl shift [13:35] i forgot sorry [13:35] that still works on Ubuntu Precise [13:36] but not in Kubuntu [13:36] kubuntu sucks [13:36] heh! [13:36] lol [13:36] better go unity [13:36] Kilos: watch mooi wat jy hier sê! [13:37] ha ha ha [13:37] Kilos: maar dankie vir die nota [13:37] * Kilos het vergeet jy weet waar bly hy [13:37] :-) [13:39] copywrite -- © > Ctrl+Shift+u + a9 or Compose key+c+o [13:39] very interesting [13:39] trade mark -- ™ > Ctrl+Shift+u + 2122 [13:40] is there a list somewhere with all on ? [13:40] magespawn, forget serious work fix your bot [13:41] ibids make the best coffee [13:41] hi confluency you quiet [13:41] nlsthzn, you at home? [13:41] hold on then [13:42] in Kubuntu with South African keyboard layout you press AltGr+Shift+0 for ° [13:42] * Kilos holds on [13:42] whats AltGr [13:44] Kilos: right alt key [13:44] Kilos: nope @ work [13:44] * Kilos changes glasses to see whats onna keyboard [13:45] oh my alt graph [13:45] didnt even know it was there [13:46] and this keyboard actually has a compose key right next to right alt [13:46] ty Owkkuri [13:47] wow! [13:48] * inetpro likes the way that Ubuntu has now visible keyboard layouts as soon you choose an additional layout [13:49] very pretty [13:49] * Kerbero likes it that koiosify is online again [13:50] My pc died [13:50] :( [13:51] o [13:51] Kilos busy doibng the install now [13:51] doing even [13:51] good lad [13:52] i dunno how you get it on here though [13:52] need to pester inetpro again [13:52] i am sure we can work it out will be reading documentation will doing install [13:57] magespawn: just read those docs, should be real easy [13:57] I'll help later if necessary [13:57] seem to be doing okay so far [13:58] sadly that will only be after 20:00 [13:58] what inetpro [13:59] zeref, you still alive? [14:00] Kilos: I will be afk until later this evening [14:01] we forgive you [14:01] okay first prob [14:01] ibid@gandcnet:~/botdir$ ibid setup [14:01] Traceback (most recent call last): [14:01] File "/usr/bin/ibid", line 15, in [14:01] ibid.setup(options) [14:01] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ibid/__init__.py", line 122, in setup [14:01] raise IbidException('Cannot find configuration file %s' % options['config']) [14:01] eish [14:01] ibid.IbidException: Cannot find configuration file setup [14:01] ibid@gandcnet:~/botdir$ [14:01] going to read doc [14:02] when in doubt, read the instruction manual [14:02] yup do not do that often [14:07] maybe it even has man pages [14:15] back again [14:15] wb [14:17] bot does not want to join [14:17] more probs [14:17] brb [14:21] hi psydroid [14:22] hi Kilos [14:22] hi magespawn [14:22] hi all [14:22] ho psydroid [14:23] magespawn, is working on an ibid bot so we can get coffee till cocooncrash fixes maaz [14:23] bit of a mind bender [14:26] Home time for IR... cheers all [14:26] cheers nlsthzn go well === nlsthzn is now known as not_found [14:27] thanks uncle Kilos [14:27] going to put the screen in a pastbin so inetpro can look later [14:29] hehe [14:29] only 3.5 hours [14:29] we will survive [14:30] magespawn, use slexy.org [14:30] then i can see too [14:30] my setup dont like the ubuntu bin [14:30] okay [14:32] http://slexy.org/view/s2z7CvnaiG [14:32] ty [14:36] maybe you gotta install those things it cant find [14:37] not sure how did try the normal route [14:38] you have it installed so run sudo aptitude reinstall ibid and maybe aptitude finds the missing stuff [14:39] or gives you a cleare explanation on whats needed [14:39] clearer [14:40] haha your internet is twisted [14:40] sue telkom [14:41] Address already in use. [14:42] magespawn, you got something else logged into the same addy [14:42] ? [14:42] not sure [14:43] xcht or something [14:43] xchat [14:44] maybe the bot gotta get in before you do [14:44] got to run lift is here [14:44] ok toodles [14:44] will check in later [14:45] cool [14:57] be back at 8ish [17:38] Eveing all [17:38] Evening [18:17] evening all of you [18:17] Kilos hi [18:18] maaz coffee on [18:18] hi dLimit long time no hear [18:18] Yeah quite... been lurking around lol [18:18] lol [18:18] So whatsup Kilos ? [18:18] you getting like the old guys here [18:19] everything still the same here, and there? [18:19] magespawn, helloooo [18:20] lo superfly nuvolari [18:20] Just destroyed my old system installing backtrack lol [18:20] eish [18:20] what is backtrack? [18:20] yeah went and selected the wrong partition blah [18:20] Its a linux distro [18:20] for hacking [18:21] ah [18:21] or pen testing as they call it [18:21] hiya Kilos [18:21] Based on ubuntu so I believe I'm still allowed in here =D [18:21] * superfly is sorely tempted to move to Arch, but he'll still hang with the Ubuntu crowd :-P [18:22] i was too [18:22] i think no one minds any linux version here as long as you can help others now and again [18:22] until the arch installer failed on me three times [18:22] aw superfly is ubuntu getting you down? [18:22] Kilos: the way the Kubuntu team sets up KDE is a little irritating at times [18:23] sort them out superfly [18:23] or go unity [18:23] lol [18:23] Kilos: ugh, I'll stick with KDE, but use Arch instead :-P [18:23] eish [18:24] Openbox FTW [18:25] and mark sounds so exited with ubuntu's progress [18:28] superfly, have you had any feedback from the kde guys about the probs [18:29] hmm magespawn is visiting chicks again [18:39] Kilos: they are all known issues, it seems [18:40] I've googled and stuff, and I'm not the only person with the problems [18:40] ok superfly do you know what they are doing wrong? [18:41] Kilos: Not really, and I don't have the time to run after it. It's mostly small stuff that is very irritating [18:41] google only works if someone else sorts the prob out first [18:41] email them directly [18:42] * Kilos know like it when peeps make the fly unhappy [18:42] no lik it [18:42] eish [18:42] good evenin [18:42] no like it [18:42] lo inetpro [18:43] hoe lyk dinge hier vanaand? [18:43] het jy nat gekry inetpro [18:43] Kilos: nee [18:43] ons het iets vir jou om uit te sorteer [18:44] mooi dit het kwaai gestorm hier [18:44] ek weet nie waar magespawn is nie maar hy het dit gegee [18:44] Kilos: oja, dit het nou gereen hier [18:44] http://slexy.org/view/s2z7CvnaiG [18:45] daai ibid van hom werk nie [18:45] 2012-03-09 16:18:51+0200 [-] twisted.internet.error.CannotListenError: Couldn't listen on any:8080: [Errno 98] Address already in use. [18:46] hy sal moet kyk wat gebruik reeds poort 8080 [18:47] ah ek het hom gevra daaroor, kan dit wees die bot kannie in kom as mage met xchat 8080 gebruik nie [18:47] ek kyk gou of xchat dit gebruik [18:47] nee 8001 [18:48] hoe sal mens sien wat gebruik 8080 [18:48] lsof -i:8080 [18:49] Kilos: dis nie dieselle nie [18:50] jou xchat praat met die server op poort 8001 [18:50] so die server luister op 8001 en die klient koppel soontoe [18:50] en sy ibid gaan op 8080 probeer in kom ? [18:51] moet hy nie sy ibid laat 8001 ook gebruik nie [18:51] Kilos: sy ibid moet luister op 8080 maar 'n ander diens maak reeds van die poort gebruik [18:51] o is 8080 ook by irc [18:52] of is dit by hom self [18:52] tumbleweed, superfly: will a ibid bot work if you change the port to something else [18:52] ? [18:53] inetpro: it should... I'm trying to remember how I got around that one, I think I did something [18:53] ha ha [18:55] is it the bot that actually talks back on 8080 or is it just the bot's website? [18:56] inetpro, is port 8080 by irc or where [18:56] Kilos: ibid [18:56] or 8001 [18:56] oh my im lost some now [18:56] is the ibid on his pc [18:57] Kilos: dit is een van die die poorte wat luister by freenode se servers [18:57] o ek sien so dis nie lokaal nie [18:58] Kilos: wel by magespawn gaan dit lokaal wees [18:58] watter poort gebruik jou quassel [18:58] Kilos: hmm... dis nie belankrik nie... ek koppel na freenode se adres en poort nommer [18:59] ja maar dink nou soos ek dink. [18:59] het freenode n poort 8080? [18:59]