| GridCube | ETA to meeting? | 18:27 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | I don't know if that's been decided | 18:28 |
| GridCube_ | mmm i don't know if i got an answer while my system went down | 18:32 |
| Unit193 | "I don't know if that's been decided" | 18:33 |
| GridCube_ | oh i see | 18:33 |
| GridCube_ | okay, well then i think i cant participate again :( | 18:33 |
| GridCube_ | see you later | 18:33 |
| === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville | ||
| ZardoZ | Upgrade from Xubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 beta doesn't work here. Is this a bug? Or something else? | 21:18 |
| Unit193 | "Doesn't work", can you explain? | 21:23 |
| ZardoZ | Of course, after starting running update-manager -d the upgrade process stops with the error "can't calculate upgrade". | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | Try `do-release-upgrade -d`, may tell us more info. | 21:33 |
| ZardoZ | OK | 21:33 |
| ZardoZ | running the command now. | 21:35 |
| ZardoZ | Same error. | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Yes, but more info? | 21:37 |
| ZardoZ | An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: | 21:37 |
| ZardoZ | E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be | 21:37 |
| ZardoZ | caused by held packages | 21:37 |
| ZardoZ | What info do you want to know? | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Seems you or a program marked a package as held. | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | !pinning | 21:38 |
| ubottu | pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto | 21:38 |
| ZardoZ | haven't pinned anything afaik, but will check. | 21:38 |
| ZardoZ | (i am a very experienced debian user) | 21:39 |
| ZardoZ | other causes the command gives me: | 21:39 |
| ZardoZ | This can be caused by: | 21:40 |
| ZardoZ | * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu | 21:40 |
| ZardoZ | * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu | 21:40 |
| ZardoZ | * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu | 21:40 |
| ZardoZ | Will also double check my 3rd party repositories. | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | Aye, I don't know for sure, but may also want to check with Pangolin support over in #ubuntu+1 | 21:41 |
| ZardoZ | OK. I will first manually disable everything in /etc/apt/sources.list/ | 21:42 |
| ZardoZ | same error after disabling every 3rd party sources. | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | I do not know. | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | Never done an LTS > LTS. | 21:48 |
| knome | i'm not sure if you can update from LTS to LTS-beta | 21:50 |
| knome | that wouldn't make much sense, would it? | 21:50 |
| ZardoZ | Me neither :-) | 21:50 |
| knome | you want long term support, but you're installing a beta version?? | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | You'd have to test it somehow, but... | 21:51 |
| ZardoZ | Well, this isn't a production machine. | 21:51 |
| knome | i understand, but that was from the packaging/releasing POV | 21:51 |
| knome | those who want to skip the "normal" releases probably want to skip the beta's too | 21:51 |
| ZardoZ | I need some extra functionality present in 12.04. | 21:51 |
| ZardoZ | But I have to admit, it's also a test. | 21:52 |
| ZardoZ | Anyway: at which moment will a upgrade be officialy possible? After the release? Or when the RC is there? | 21:55 |
| knome | ZardoZ, i believe it's after the release | 21:55 |
| ZardoZ | OK. | 21:55 |
| knome | and there aren't really RC's, just betas | 21:56 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 21:56 |
| ZardoZ | suggenstion of #ubuntu+1 is to wait a few hours. It might work then. Otherwise I will wait. | 21:59 |
| ZardoZ | till the official release | 21:59 |
| knome | yup, good luck | 22:00 |
| ChristopherNg | hello | 22:16 |
| ChristopherNg | a couple of post grad folks here, looking at some kind of ERP for ubuntu based distros. | 22:17 |
| ChristopherNg | want to know what you folks think of this project, we have a choice, but this is the one that seems to have caught our interest. | 22:17 |
| knome | ChristopherNg, you mean, creating and ERP application for ubuntu based distros? | 22:19 |
| ChristopherNg | yes | 22:19 |
| ChristopherNg | whats your feeling about something like that, could it work or will it fail from the drawing board itself? | 22:20 |
| knome | i don't see a reason why it wouldn't work. i don't see how that should be specifically directed to ubuntu based distros | 22:20 |
| knome | i mean, it's just an application, right? | 22:20 |
| knome | have you looked if there is any projects that is doing ERP in the FOSS field? | 22:21 |
| ChristopherNg | no actually didnt think there would be much interest in that.. | 22:21 |
| ChristopherNg | I could be wrong, but basically.. | 22:21 |
| knome | interest in what? | 22:21 |
| ChristopherNg | we are looking at an erp for smes | 22:22 |
| ChristopherNg | SME = Small, Medium, Enterprises | 22:22 |
| knome | yes | 22:22 |
| knome | but interest in what? | 22:22 |
| knome | i mean, you lost me | 22:22 |
| astraljava | This is one seriously confusing conversation for sure. | 22:22 |
| ChristopherNg | i meant interest in erp for ubuntu or linux in general sorry | 22:23 |
| knome | no interest in such a product from end-users? | 22:23 |
| knome | why not. | 22:23 |
| knome | if it's good, i'm sure it'll raise interest | 22:23 |
| knome | astraljava, hey :) | 22:23 |
| astraljava | o/ | 22:23 |
| ChristopherNg | not sure | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | Howdy, java. | 22:23 |
| ChristopherNg | its just the culture | 22:23 |
| knome | ChristopherNg, but i don't know ubuntu really relates to this? | 22:23 |
| ChristopherNg | basically, its an open source erp for smes that we want made available via launch or repos.. | 22:24 |
| ChristopherNg | want to know what you think the reception to something like that will be.. | 22:24 |
| knome | ChristopherNg, yeah. so is is *ready* ? | 22:24 |
| knome | or not.. | 22:24 |
| ChristopherNg | no we still trying to see if this is feasible and if it would catch on and testing the waters. | 22:24 |
| knome | there's a possibility to include any app in the ubuntu repositories | 22:25 |
| knome | and i'm sure that will go for the rest of the distros too | 22:25 |
| knome | and i'm pretty sure there is people, who'd like to use something like that on linux | 22:25 |
| ChristopherNg | yes thats true but other ERPS like SAP are not open source etc | 22:25 |
| astraljava | There are lots of OS ERP's already, so do you have some sort of idea how yours would detach from the crowd? | 22:26 |
| astraljava | Well, actually I'm just relying on search engines here, but I kinda trust google on that. :) | 22:27 |
| ChristopherNg | well basically, ours is aimed at SMES. | 22:27 |
| ChristopherNg | and open source. | 22:27 |
| ChristopherNg | not to mention its a development project for our masters. | 22:28 |
| ChristopherNg | so if there is something like this out there that is opensource, that would be even better as we can see the strength and weakness of that and build our own accordingly | 22:28 |
| knome | or help some other project to grow | 22:29 |
| astraljava | Yes well, search terms "sme open source erp" bring out lots of relevant hits. | 22:31 |
| astraljava | So I'm kinda bound to repeat my question. | 22:31 |
| astraljava | Ahh... well, being a study, yeah that's reason enough. | 22:31 |
| knome | i'm off | 22:34 |
| knome | see you folks later | 22:34 |
| ChristopherNg | Q/ | 22:34 |
| knome | or if you'd prefer to be called "pops" or "rocks" or even "indies" or "raps", those then | 22:34 |
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